Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kate Berlan, I'm Jacqueline Novak.
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Speaker 1: Lisie speaking Insurmountable Admin one K forty eight. Hello, what
Speaker 1: a delight to see my friends.
Speaker 2: Oh hello, well you know, by the way, look what
Speaker 2: I'm wearing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna doctor lorda SPF SPF shure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did send this to us. It says PF
Speaker 2: on it. And as if, as if by clockwork, the
Speaker 2: a PS man arrives package in hand. No, well, there
Speaker 2: are two of them. I wonder what it is. I
Speaker 2: wonder what they are. I swear to God, I think
Speaker 2: they're hi. It's me.
Speaker 1: What's the percentage?
Speaker 2: What if it's sign only? I'm gonna see if he leaves.
Speaker 2: Now he's gone. First of all, you know, it's amazing.
Speaker 2: Imagine this minutes ago, I was getting a massage. The
Speaker 2: masseuse just left my home and god, wait wait, take
Speaker 2: a minute with this in home massage. So this is
Speaker 2: the woman who I've talked about on Pooh before. Over
Speaker 2: a year ago, she came and give me lymphatic drainage,
Speaker 2: lymphatic massage. And she comes in and but.
Speaker 1: You're so good at making fucking appointments.
Speaker 2: I can teach you. She and this was, this is
Speaker 2: like once you start down the path with someone of
Speaker 2: like wellness or anything. She was like, because I saw
Speaker 2: her over a year ago and she came in, She's like,
Speaker 2: I remember you, like your body was so clean because
Speaker 2: the last timehen I saw her, Because she's like as
Speaker 2: a very thick accent. She's Brazilian. There's like a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff that to be honest, I'm just like saying
Speaker 2: yes to things. I don't know what she's saying. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, it's so word you bust that out. So
Speaker 2: Jacqueline just busted out the Dennis Gross red light like
Speaker 2: neck thing, which I just found well.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking, like, because you were talking about
Speaker 1: how I mean I know her really just like use
Speaker 1: the actual full Dennis Gross mask, and I've like seen
Speaker 1: it on your nightstand and that's how you know, yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: I can tell it was in use. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta step it up. I picked this
Speaker 1: thing up. I haven't touched this thing in a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There it is held its chargefully. Yeah. So cool. Anyway,
Speaker 2: but she said to me, last last time I saw her,
Speaker 2: she was like, I'm really surprised at how clean your
Speaker 2: body is. She was like, you really have like no
Speaker 2: blocks up clean. Yeah, like no blocks like the limph
Speaker 2: system or whatever, like your energetic pathways. I don't really
Speaker 2: even know limph something. Yeah, but she was like yeah.
Speaker 2: And then this time she was like she was like,
Speaker 2: nothing bad, but like you have new blocks. And she's
Speaker 2: like she like she immediately it's unbelievable, like when people
Speaker 2: are just gifted. Like she has my arm there and
Speaker 2: she just like immediately from starting massage, she goes she
Speaker 2: touches my arm and she goes right up to this
Speaker 2: one spot on my arm, presses on it.
Speaker 3: Pain.
Speaker 2: Yeah. She's like, yeah, you have a blockage right here.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, ah, okay, she's massaging and she's like,
Speaker 2: don't worry, Like did you say ow and yeah she
Speaker 2: said yeah no. No. She was like, I'm not like doubting her.
Speaker 2: I just want to know the process. She touched me
Speaker 2: very she immediately went to one spot like on my
Speaker 2: arm and was like pressing it and I was like ooh.
Speaker 2: She was like yeah, if you got a block there,
Speaker 2: she was like it's okay, like it'll you know, it'll
Speaker 2: go away or whatever. She's like they're not deep, but
Speaker 2: she was like, yeah, you've got these new blocks. She's
Speaker 2: like the last eight months. She's like, this one's eight
Speaker 2: months old. And I was like, that's so interesting because
Speaker 2: I was like thinking back and I was like the
Speaker 2: last eight months when things I just have been under
Speaker 2: unusual dress and I was like that's crazy and so
Speaker 2: but then she's like, yeah, you got to ask the
Speaker 2: angels for help. I was like, don't I fucking know it?
Speaker 2: And she said you need to. Yeah. She was like
Speaker 2: she was like, don't do it alone. And then she
Speaker 2: grabbed my throat in this way and she was like,
Speaker 2: you're not saying something like hurt like my throat. She
Speaker 2: didn't grab my throat and she was doing like massaging,
Speaker 2: but she was like something's like you haven't said something
Speaker 2: to someone or something. And then she yeah, it was cool.
Speaker 2: But then she's like close your eyes. She's like touching
Speaker 2: my so much, like what colors do you see? And
Speaker 2: it's that thing where I'm kind of like, uh, purple, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of like yeah, And she's like, you
Speaker 2: have to eat pear. I was like, okay, she's like
Speaker 2: you need fruit. She's like, you need to be eating
Speaker 2: a lot more fruit.
Speaker 1: I was like, total, that's really interesting considering what did
Speaker 1: I tell you fruit fruit? Well, I love your fruit massively. No,
Speaker 1: but I was telling you that you need to up
Speaker 1: the quantities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were, you were.
Speaker 1: And so I just think I was tuned into something.
Speaker 2: By the way, you'll be thrilled to know. Guess what
Speaker 2: I had for lunch. Plants, strong veggie burgers. We made
Speaker 2: the mix. Oh my god, you made them. You made
Speaker 2: the patties. Yeah, well, yeah, because it's it's a mix, right, Huh.
Speaker 2: You had you had, you had hot water, we added
Speaker 2: spices whatever. Boom burger patties on English muffin loved it.
Speaker 1: Well, I had okay, amazing. I had plants, strong pancakes,
Speaker 1: and I vented something what it's called pancake mash okay,
Speaker 1: and it's I don't I struggle with waiting till the
Speaker 1: bubbles are in the center of the pancake to flip them.
Speaker 2: That whole thing.
Speaker 1: I really struggle with basically cooking a pancake.
Speaker 2: Well baking because of the weight that gets done out
Speaker 2: of the oven.
Speaker 1: You have to wait, I mean at least the oven.
Speaker 1: You you said it and forget it, right, I mean
Speaker 1: you're standing there with a pan. It's like, I just
Speaker 1: want it so badly. So I said, well, if these
Speaker 1: were eggs, I would say fuck it. I'm not making
Speaker 1: an omelet here. I'm gonna make scramble. I'm gonna push
Speaker 1: it around the pan to cook it up into I
Speaker 1: do scrambled eggs often in favor of an omelet, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: probably prefer what's going on there. So I just started
Speaker 1: spatula the pancake around the pan.
Speaker 2: May scramble A pancakes scramb co cook cook delicious. I
Speaker 2: believe it.
Speaker 1: I got I don't look pretty, but don't matter.
Speaker 2: I believe it.
Speaker 1: She's got a heart of gold. My pancake, mash berries
Speaker 1: and of course pancakes scramble, Yeah, scrambles.
Speaker 2: One thing we've been.
Speaker 1: Talking about more I'm dying is everything you dream of.
Speaker 2: What about the woman? Well, I'm going to have her back.
Speaker 2: I'm going to have her back. Well, because then someone
Speaker 2: use the amount you look at your life. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, I had accupuncture on Monday and today lymphatic massage.
Speaker 2: I believe it. Yeah, but I'm only doing the acupuncture thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know how long I'll do it. It's kind
Speaker 2: of like coming out of the egg retrieval, you know.
Speaker 2: I kind of like gave myself the gift of like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to do this stuff there retreat. You know,
Speaker 2: it requires the way you require to give myself a gift.
Speaker 2: I know it's always got to be well because of
Speaker 2: blah blah.
Speaker 1: I because you're not someone who thinks it's like wrong
Speaker 1: to right. I mean, no cheapness, No, I guess it.
Speaker 2: Just it just sounds so extravagant. But I uh but anyway,
Speaker 2: but the woman, it was great. The massage was great,
Speaker 2: and she was like, you meditate right. I was like, yep,
Speaker 2: I haven't ten months, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But I feel like she was picking it up and
Speaker 2: she was like, yeah, your body's good at that.
Speaker 1: By the way, I just discovered this sitting here. I
Speaker 1: haven't tried it yet.
Speaker 2: What what color is at last? No, it's not at last.
Speaker 2: My favorite ilia blush is outlast.
Speaker 1: It's streamer. Yeah, it's streamer and this is the this
Speaker 1: is I was very excited about the multi stick with avocado.
Speaker 2: Oil or in May December of the film. Really yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the blush that Julian Moore uses. I remember because
Speaker 2: I saw the film like, oh that's Ilia, that's Ilia, folks.
Speaker 2: And at the premiere they had Ilia and the gift
Speaker 2: bag folks.
Speaker 1: No, no, yeah, oh yeah, so I imagine.
Speaker 2: I okay, so I got the massage. But it's funny
Speaker 2: how it goes in your head, right, like oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I hear these blocks and now suddenly I'm like, oh god,
Speaker 2: I gotta get the blocks out. It's like people, you
Speaker 2: can slide into orthorex here pretty quickly, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Mhm, Which is like the fear of like yeah,
Speaker 2: you're like, it's fine, of course there are blocks. Of course,
Speaker 2: there are blocks right now that there hadn't been a
Speaker 2: year ago. You just have to we have to go
Speaker 2: through different seasons. Sometimes you're gonna have blocks, sometimes you're not.
Speaker 2: That's okay, doesn't mean anything's wrong, but I want the
Speaker 2: blocks out.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no point in going to acupuncture or
Speaker 1: a lymphatic person if there are new blocks. You know,
Speaker 1: what you want. You want to hear there's something to fix.
Speaker 2: Oh, I told her because my friend, my fancy friend,
Speaker 2: recommended this lymph massage woman, and I texted my friend.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I got new blocks. Whatever. She
Speaker 2: goes see her in two weeks, they'll be gone. In
Speaker 2: other news, we were asking about electronic toothbrushes and a
Speaker 2: hag reached out and said with a message so detailed,
Speaker 2: I thought, does this hag work for this brand? By
Speaker 2: the way, who cares? But they're like the electronic toothbrush
Speaker 2: you need a Surrey. I reached out to Surrey. They're
Speaker 2: sending them very sleek, kind of gentrified electronic toothbrush. You
Speaker 2: know they still end an air one. Now you're joking,
Speaker 2: I'm not joking.
Speaker 1: That is the toothbrush you've seen as an end cap
Speaker 1: An aisle cap An one.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, I had no idea forty days it was
Speaker 2: saying charge that's cool.
Speaker 1: It was poog corner as fulfilled. Oh get you going,
Speaker 1: what color toothbrush you want? Okay? Me like so in
Speaker 1: the middle of something right, but was still able to
Speaker 1: take a quick glance at the Surrey that you link
Speaker 1: to it right back.
Speaker 2: Winter Fern that's what and that's when I want to
Speaker 2: I responded to winter Ferns, please, I love it. Blue
Speaker 2: Land also reached out because I was baking for blue Land,
Speaker 2: which is great too. You got to send me a
Speaker 2: blue Land.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I meant I meant to send you. I mean,
Speaker 1: like at all, well until you got blue Land. I've
Speaker 1: been using the dishwasher tablets. As we all know, my
Speaker 1: life has changed out of being a dishwasher user. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so my other things in there too, Like what wait,
Speaker 1: let me look, because that's kind of exciting for you.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think of other things that dishwasher can.
Speaker 2: What else I'm putting a dishwasher?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, all right, well, like here's an example,
Speaker 1: the scrub brushes used to clean your dishes.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, okay, that's that's new information.
Speaker 1: Or I like to throw the like the mesh drain
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the drain thing in there, the.
Speaker 1: Drain thing that catches the ship. Throw that in there,
Speaker 1: keep that nice and fresh.
Speaker 2: Yeah amazing.
Speaker 1: And I know there's other ones.
Speaker 2: I had.
Speaker 1: Do you sort You're like, do you put the forks
Speaker 1: in with the forks?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, uh, wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: So as you're loading utensils into the dishwasher, right, you
Speaker 1: just throw them in there in the.
Speaker 2: This this dishwasher has like a little thing where you
Speaker 2: put a single utensil in like a hole. It's like
Speaker 2: a holder, so you like, you can't just throw them in. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: each one gets a.
Speaker 1: Hold, I mean each one, one one one, Yeah, each
Speaker 1: single fork, yeah, gets like a shoulder. Is it challenging?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Does it knock have to knock in at both sides?
Speaker 1: Like no, it's just like allow to ask. It's kind
Speaker 1: of it's hard for me to describe. I don't do
Speaker 1: well with spatial configurations. Interesting.
Speaker 2: I excel at abstract geometry one thing. And I texted
Speaker 2: you today and you kind of you kind of helped
Speaker 2: me through it yesterday and today's shocking mood, danger, wanting
Speaker 2: to rip people's heads off, not yelling at anyone, but
Speaker 2: just internal fury. Everything being so hard where I go,
Speaker 2: it's impossible. Just there's just insurmountable tasks, insurmountable admin self
Speaker 2: loading and not being able to mail a single form
Speaker 2: and being emailed every four days by a company. Hey,
Speaker 2: can you get that form? Out in the mail today.
Speaker 2: A week later, Hey, checking back on the form in
Speaker 2: the mail today. I haven't mailed in years.
Speaker 1: It's it's impossible, you know, we were sent something that
Speaker 1: I actually did start using. I just want to say,
Speaker 1: and have had some success with, which is what I
Speaker 1: think it might still be in beta duck Bill. What
Speaker 1: the fuck is that we were sent this? We each
Speaker 1: got in a count okay, and it does tasks for you.
Speaker 1: And I think the full version of it long term
Speaker 1: is you know, someone signs up for like I think
Speaker 1: like ninety nine dollars a month or something. Okay, I
Speaker 1: forget do your own research, you know, not that here.
Speaker 1: But and it's I think it's like just unlimited tasks. Okay.
Speaker 1: So for example, I've been testing the system, okay, and
Speaker 1: you know, you write in a little chat message like
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, like, so these things that have
Speaker 1: been hanging over me, like one of my little gimbals,
Speaker 1: my DGI Osmo gimbal camera that has had a problem
Speaker 1: for like a long time, and I just like can't
Speaker 1: bring myself and I'm like called Sammy's camera store and
Speaker 1: ask them if they will rehabilitate my osmo. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if not, what do I do? They did it?
Speaker 2: They would have invY did.
Speaker 1: The next thing. I know. They're like like, AI did it, Well,
Speaker 1: this is the service. So they got like a team
Speaker 1: of no, they got like a team of people slash
Speaker 1: ais is as far as I can tell, Okay, So
Speaker 1: they're like I think what they're doing is I think
Speaker 1: it's I'm going to ask them how it works, because
Speaker 1: that's the feeling I get. So I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: so I literally had to make doctor's appointments. No, okay,
Speaker 1: and it worked and like annoy me, like like they're
Speaker 1: texting or like the messages is coming through the app
Speaker 1: and they're like they're like, hey, so like here are
Speaker 1: two you know, gynecologists you know, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: like I'm like, are they good? And it's like it's
Speaker 1: like this one, you know, is this this and this.
Speaker 1: But some people there's been there are mixed reviews when
Speaker 1: you look at it under da da da, you know,
Speaker 1: like but this other one, you know, he's been working,
Speaker 1: he's been uh for forty five years, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people seem to really like, you know, I'm like
Speaker 1: book it what okay? Okay, So I've gone to one
Speaker 1: doctor's appointment. I have two more on the books good
Speaker 1: for you because of phone call avoidance.
Speaker 2: That's so.
Speaker 1: Then they reached out to say how is duck Bill going?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's been seamlessly integrated in my life,
Speaker 1: terrified that like the membership is going to like end
Speaker 1: on me before fully tested.
Speaker 2: Thank you for I'm writing down duck Bill. It's a
Speaker 2: huge ad.
Speaker 1: Then I was like, what else did I ask them
Speaker 1: to do? I was like trying to test the balance.
Speaker 1: I was like, create a graphic for me, like like
Speaker 1: utilizing the media media, the brand bible of getting your knees.
Speaker 2: Well, because that's the AI element, like Texas.
Speaker 1: I mean, technically, I don't know. It seems like it.
Speaker 1: I really don't know how it works. They say, because
Speaker 1: I know that there are humans. I think they're called
Speaker 1: co pilots or something. But I think it's I'm not
Speaker 1: really sure what's going on. I will report more, but
Speaker 1: I can't lie and say it hasn't helped me.
Speaker 2: So that's massive in my book. I have a fixation
Speaker 2: on finding a protein powder that's tasty and I don't
Speaker 2: care if it's I don't care what's in it. Here's
Speaker 2: a question, why, man, I care what protein? Why am
Speaker 2: I looking for protein? Because I'm obsessed with this. I
Speaker 2: know it's I know it's all over, but thirty grams
Speaker 2: of protein in the morning, I believe it. I really
Speaker 2: feel a different. So did you get the protein? Just
Speaker 2: the internet in a natural path? Interesting that women need
Speaker 2: thirty creams grams of protein in the morning.
Speaker 1: I mean you might want to do a little reading
Speaker 1: on perfect amino the powder that one, remember I told
Speaker 1: you that's the one that tells you what is it?
Speaker 1: Perfect amino body health, Perfect amino. That's what I'm on.
Speaker 1: I actually got an affiliate link or or like.
Speaker 2: All use it. You should drop that. It tastes really bad.
Speaker 1: It the taste is kind of I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: mind it, but you blended into you suggest and stuff. No,
Speaker 1: you actually don't because you have it plain Okay, because
Speaker 1: in water. The idea of it is the yeah, amino acids.
Speaker 1: It's the exact right ratio of amino acids. Okay, the
Speaker 1: building blocks, right, it has like all of them protein.
Speaker 1: You eat them without any other food, so there's no
Speaker 1: tetris blocks left out of the mix.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: This is like the problem with other forms of protein.
Speaker 1: So they're like, according to this, you know, guy who's
Speaker 1: too red?
Speaker 2: Hang on, I want to be clear. You drink it
Speaker 2: in plain water on an empty stomach. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: you can eat.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: How long have you been privately doing this? Probably check
Speaker 2: the record. I know how long I've been pushing.
Speaker 1: I've been pushing it for ages. Well I fell off
Speaker 1: for a little bit. I sort of spaced out, but
Speaker 1: but probably several months I was so I like to
Speaker 1: use it.
Speaker 2: Astonished how much protein for serving I bought. I put
Speaker 2: out a pocket for the perfect Amino's reds the red right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that there's a protein in that. I
Speaker 1: don't think, no, that that's what it is. The protein
Speaker 1: is protein is built of amino acids. Okay. This is
Speaker 1: like the thing. It's like there's a lot of myths
Speaker 1: out there about protein.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: There's even a book out there called like protein Aholics
Speaker 1: or whatever. Okay, and it's like we have these ideas,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, the whole thing also like like
Speaker 1: we can't build muscle without whatever eating like an animal's muscle.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's like this is like you know,
Speaker 1: plant based sort of information where they're like have you
Speaker 1: seen you know, an elephant or whatever. Have you seen
Speaker 1: total the biggest, strongest. Have you seen a cow?
Speaker 2: What is it? Any grass? Right?
Speaker 1: And it's more muscular than you. So there's like this anyway,
Speaker 1: perfect amino guy because he was searching for the perfect protein.
Speaker 1: To me, no, because he was like a childhood vegan.
Speaker 2: Like I want to be clear. If perfect send a
Speaker 2: hall to us, this will all be wiped from the
Speaker 2: episode and I'll see to it.
Speaker 1: You can just yeah, block out the friend name anger
Speaker 1: till until it's it's time. But I got to get on.
Speaker 2: I'm talking in this register, and I want to apologize
Speaker 2: to everyone.
Speaker 1: Celsius sent us, and so I I have. I'm back
Speaker 1: on Celsius. We've got to be a Celsius based pool.
Speaker 1: You guys, we got sent three palettes of Celsius. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: not palettes. Wait oh no, oh no what For years
Speaker 1: you've been saying palettes about things.
Speaker 2: What's the word? What's the word?
Speaker 1: No? No, the word is right. But to me, a
Speaker 1: palette like like when they're shipping you know they're shipping
Speaker 1: something right, like product like massive amount of product. Right,
Speaker 1: you're really saying palette. Technically palettes as far as I understand,
Speaker 1: are like four and a half feet by four and
Speaker 1: a half.
Speaker 2: Feet because would slats, there's two layers.
Speaker 1: You've seen them. People make coffee tables out of them,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Yeah, So every time you've been like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I ordered a palette of you know, Mountain Valley to
Speaker 1: my home or whatever, that's what I've been picturing. And
Speaker 1: now I'm realizing that what we got right was a
Speaker 1: small case a cardboard box twelve inches by eight of celsius,
Speaker 1: three of those generous amount.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So all I'm saying is you're saying three palettes, they
Speaker 1: might be picturing something that's four feet by five feet
Speaker 1: when in fact it's eight inches by twelve inches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my thing.
Speaker 1: Like if you got a twelve pack retroplectively, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's actually twenty four. I think it's twenty four, hey,
Speaker 1: four times six and come picturing in my mind.
Speaker 2: I tried to do a row of that. We tried
Speaker 2: to do a basic multiplication the other day. I think
Speaker 2: it was what was it It was four times twenty
Speaker 2: one maybe, and I was trying to really visualize it.
Speaker 2: Couldn't do it. How do you let me see? I
Speaker 2: can do your effort. Let me see what I can do
Speaker 2: right now? Yeah, four times twenty one? Hand but talk
Speaker 2: talk Okayay, First I want to cheat the system and go,
Speaker 2: what's two times four eight?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: Okay? Here's my first guest. Here's my first guest. Hand on. Okay,
Speaker 2: here's my first guest. What is it? Four times twenty one? Okay?
Speaker 2: On one second? Is it eighty four? Do it out loud?
Speaker 2: Is it eighty four? The whole point is to is
Speaker 2: it eighty four? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, do thinking out loud. Let's try another
Speaker 1: one two times thirty six. Okay, do it out loud.
Speaker 1: Don't whisper it this time?
Speaker 2: Okakay? So then I go two times thirty six. It's
Speaker 2: thirty six plus thirty six, So to carry the one seventy? No?
Speaker 2: Ok did I get it? Did I get it?
Speaker 1: No? I'm I'm I'm horrified that you're so. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is just this is why?
Speaker 2: But did I education?
Speaker 1: I'm like And by the way, I I have my
Speaker 1: own I have my own like you just did this.
Speaker 2: With You want me to you want me to call
Speaker 2: it out, spell out the system.
Speaker 1: Exactly what you're doing. Yeah, because what did I give you,
Speaker 1: what was the assignment.
Speaker 2: Two times thirty thirty six? So I did six plus
Speaker 2: six is twelve. I put a two there. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: I put a two there carried the wiring and one.
Speaker 1: But you're visually, you're.
Speaker 2: Visualizing it three plus three. Now I feel like a
Speaker 2: genius holding my head. Look at this, you're three plus three,
Speaker 2: six plus one seven seventy two. Wait.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but so give me one. You did it.
Speaker 1: You did it with pencil and paper, I mean your
Speaker 1: head is my point.
Speaker 2: I did it in my head with pencil and paper
Speaker 2: in my head. Yeah, yeah. Or the other one I
Speaker 2: did differently? Whatever one that was? Yeah, I felt like
Speaker 2: I was cheating the system. It was what was it?
Speaker 1: This is I can understand cheating the system. This is huge, okay.
Speaker 1: Next four episod that they're devoted to this numbers and
Speaker 1: how we deal with them in our head cannot be
Speaker 1: overstated as one of my primary interests. Okay, because I
Speaker 1: have my own psychoses around these things, but I become
Speaker 1: very conscious of them and try to fix themself. I
Speaker 1: can also, you know, succeed at the SATs because I
Speaker 1: look at these people around me and I go, I
Speaker 1: don't believe you're more intelligent than me. I believe you
Speaker 1: locked in on a very specific way of doing a
Speaker 1: problem instead of thirty different ways of doing a problem. Right,
Speaker 1: and your limited thinking is actually serving you now and
Speaker 1: so right anyway, okay, so hold on, will you talk
Speaker 1: about how you did the other one?
Speaker 2: What was it?
Speaker 1: Four? Comes twenty one?
Speaker 2: So I saw four twenty ones in a row. So
Speaker 2: all I have to do is add up the twos.
Speaker 2: That's eight and then they're the ones right there. That's
Speaker 2: four of them. So eighty four. That's a really easy one.
Speaker 1: Nice Give me how one did you see them?
Speaker 2: I saw them stack. Write it down the time, so
Speaker 2: I don't forget. I saw them stack.
Speaker 1: Okay, and you saw and you saw the numbers like written, yep,
Speaker 1: not not beans, not you know, not beans. I saw
Speaker 1: the numbers all right, nine times thirty six.
Speaker 2: Oh I like this a little bit of it. And
Speaker 2: he wants to play tough. I like that nine times
Speaker 2: thirty six. Okay, here we go. So this one I
Speaker 2: go crazy because I go, it's not beans. I can't
Speaker 2: stack them up. I can't stack up nine thirty six.
Speaker 2: Is that's too hard? So what I'm gonna do is
Speaker 2: I do thirty six times nine, So nine times six,
Speaker 2: by the way, already stumped, completely fucking stumped on what
Speaker 2: nine times six is. Yeah, yeah, nine times six is
Speaker 2: not going down easy for me.
Speaker 1: So wait, but what I'm hearing and what I'm hearing,
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure are you doing it
Speaker 1: in your head again?
Speaker 2: Over a line? Are you putting nine on the bottom
Speaker 2: in thirty six? Yeah? Nine times talking about who the
Speaker 2: fuck knows that? Thirty four? Okay? Are you serious? Except
Speaker 2: for memorizing? Is that from like, are you going back
Speaker 2: to child him? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's from memorizing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely from memorized. So you're the language way.
Speaker 1: The multiplication table is from memorizing. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: doing the more, not like saying what Yeah, but what
Speaker 1: I could sit there and do if I really wanted
Speaker 1: to write, is go like, because what were we talking about?
Speaker 2: Nine times six? Nine times six? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Really tough, But let's just play this out nine times six? Okay,
Speaker 1: you know it's fifty four now, now what are you
Speaker 1: going to do with that?
Speaker 2: I'm not screwed. What was the original question?
Speaker 1: Nine times thirty six?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: So fifty four? God, this is hard. I can't hold
Speaker 1: in my head. So the four goes down there. See,
Speaker 1: yeah you're drawing, and I lost it again. I lost
Speaker 1: it again. Yeah you're drawing in your head. This is
Speaker 1: a mistake. Well no, not a mistake, but it's like
Speaker 1: I can't hold on. It's like and no one can.
Speaker 1: I mean some people can, I guess, but that's like
Speaker 1: a totally different skill, see what I'm saying. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I can't help it. Feel that you were robbed, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, Like, yeah, like that wasn't the way to do it.
Speaker 1: You're yeah, there's a way, there's a there's a now.
Speaker 1: I do feel like once you get out of school,
Speaker 1: depending on kind of you know, there can be a
Speaker 1: quick and dirty fashion that develops that like isn't the
Speaker 1: best and you just but you're used to it, so
Speaker 1: you do it.
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I have some of those, like
Speaker 1: like the options, like like technically speaking, what do I
Speaker 1: do if right now I go nine times thirty six
Speaker 1: now because they're listening, there's like an inherent panic and
Speaker 1: I'm self conscious and so I don't know what I'd
Speaker 1: really do in life makes sense, But like I'm trying
Speaker 1: to you know, like have an impressive version. So let
Speaker 1: me like try to just like be real right now.
Speaker 1: If I'm like really quickly, let me do it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm like because I'm almost panicking and starting to think
Speaker 1: of like what someone else might do. Yeah, for example,
Speaker 1: so nine times thirty six. Right, Well, here's a question. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like, let me just go like rogue go ten
Speaker 1: times ten times thirty six.
Speaker 2: You know what that is? There's baby right, hm, there's
Speaker 2: this kind what'd you say? My wrong? Three sixty thirty
Speaker 2: six hundred, three thousand, six hundred my wrong? Fuck? Oh
Speaker 2: thirty six hundred.
Speaker 1: Three sixty three sixty three sixty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know, I know. I didn't know by
Speaker 2: okay about a jack zero? Right? Wait, hang on, hang on.
Speaker 2: Three hundred and sixty times ten is three.
Speaker 1: Let's wait, let's play this out. Hold on, Hold okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be huge for you.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Thirty six times.
Speaker 2: Ten, three hundred and sixty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, three hundred and sixty times ten thirty six
Speaker 1: hundred mm okay, thirty six hundred times ten.
Speaker 2: You won't play hardball three hundred and sixty.
Speaker 1: Thousand, No, okay, So I just said, what did I
Speaker 1: say three thousand, six hundred right times ten?
Speaker 2: Hang, okay, three three three? I feel like I lost it.
Speaker 1: Three thousand, six hundred right, So did you notice a
Speaker 1: pattern with the other two?
Speaker 2: Yeah, more zeros? What was it? Adding zero? Was it got?
Speaker 2: It got bigger? Yeah? Yeah? Bye? One hundred is no?
Speaker 1: No, no, don't answer what you think is right. Just
Speaker 1: just just just trust yourself. Bigger zero thirty six right
Speaker 1: times ten? Add a zero thirty six times ten two zeros? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: and then three zero zero three zeros.
Speaker 2: And on we go, so it'll become millionaires.
Speaker 1: And so let's see if you can get the answer. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: the question three thousand, six hundred times ten.
Speaker 2: Here's what I mean? Hundred and sixty thousand?
Speaker 1: No, hold on thirty six hundred suggest that was what
Speaker 1: we started with? Times ten?
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay? So yeah, wait is it a random number
Speaker 2: like thirty eight? Wait? No, hold on to figure three
Speaker 2: hundreds sixty body? What was the question three thousand, six
Speaker 2: hundred times ten? Yeah? And do you have a pencil? No,
Speaker 2: I'm using my finger. Three thousand, okay, six hundred times ten?
Speaker 2: Uh huh?
Speaker 1: And what do we do when we're timsing? By ten,
Speaker 1: What do we learn we do at a zero? You
Speaker 1: had it before? Yes, so so now I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something. I know you have your brain.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, thank god?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, cool, Okay.
Speaker 1: Now I would argue because those numbers as artists, okay,
Speaker 1: have emotional qualities to them. And I would say three thousand,
Speaker 1: six hundred even has a different quality than thirty six hundred. Right,
Speaker 1: oh yeah when articulated, even though there's two hundred.
Speaker 2: Sexy, three thousand, six hundred is you're in the mud.
Speaker 2: Your counting pennies?
Speaker 1: Interesting, well, fifteen hundred or one thousand, five hundred I
Speaker 1: prefer really did under context?
Speaker 2: Right yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we're not over selling it. Like I
Speaker 1: said one K the other day about something and sexy.
Speaker 1: People were like, I've never heard.
Speaker 2: Versus anyone one K because one like.
Speaker 1: It's a situation. I was like, they're giving me one K.
Speaker 1: It was poverty one K.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like really amazing, It's like it makes
Speaker 2: one K. It's like one K, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like because people people, well.
Speaker 1: It's like if you're talking K, if you're talking K,
Speaker 1: you're talking talking about where are we talking about k.
Speaker 2: We're talking about thousands of people. Yeah, you're like eight
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty K versus one k, like ten K.
Speaker 2: Well here's what blow your mind? Yeah, a million dollars. Well,
Speaker 2: here we go.
Speaker 1: Now you want to play the game, see, Kate, this
Speaker 1: is where shit gets real. Okay, talking about like gonna
Speaker 1: buy a house or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we're playing this out now.
Speaker 1: What I wanted to say and what I wanted to
Speaker 1: offer you is that when you're sitting there with the
Speaker 1: thirty six hundred, right, what are you picturing in your
Speaker 1: head three Comma six zero.
Speaker 2: Zero or no, three Comma six zero zero, yeah, and we're.
Speaker 1: Going at a zero right, that whole game we were
Speaker 1: playing for a few minutes right at a zero, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was stopping you. Something was not computing there, right,
Speaker 1: And it's almost like I believe it's because in your
Speaker 1: head you have the shape of like three Comma six
Speaker 1: zero zero, right, and the six zero zero is like
Speaker 1: this block on the side there, and when you try
Speaker 1: to add a zero to it doesn't something like fuck
Speaker 1: up in your head? Right, Yeah, it doesn't seem right.
Speaker 1: The zeros all blur together, And it's because we when
Speaker 1: we quote add a zero. We usually have to move
Speaker 1: the fucking comma over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the trauma. Oh it sucks. Okay, so you're not so.
Speaker 1: I was going to tell you if you were going
Speaker 1: to write it down, you know, with your finger without commas,
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: Gonna say, that's great, it's a great get rid of it.
Speaker 2: It's a great tip.
Speaker 1: And then stare at it and go, if I was
Speaker 1: looking at this number, where would put the comment? Okay,
Speaker 1: now I know how to say it.
Speaker 2: That's good, that's good.
Speaker 1: But like so like I panic right in the moment,
Speaker 1: I go nine times thirty six, right, and I start
Speaker 1: to go, well, what if I did ten times thirty
Speaker 1: six in this experiment?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And that's three sixty right? And then I go and
Speaker 1: then I could subtract one thirty six from that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 1: But I hate subtraction. But we'll talk about that. Right.
Speaker 1: But that's not very pleasant, right, that's sort of like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: now it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Where does it start? Okay, this is a big question.
Speaker 2: Twelve minus four? Arguably I got it to stay with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know exactly what your issue here is?
Speaker 2: Is it? Eight is the answer? Okay?
Speaker 1: Okay, what was the question again, Yeah, where does it start?
Speaker 1: Forgot where we were coming from? Twelve minus four twelves
Speaker 1: a whole thing. I know exactly, do you get it right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know. Before you're saying anything, I know exactly what
Speaker 1: you mean. Okay, And this is and this is, this
Speaker 1: is once again, this is. I will argue this ship
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life because this is my
Speaker 1: personal chip on my shoulder. Okay, you and I are
Speaker 1: suffering as a result of our genius.
Speaker 2: I believe it. I love this.
Speaker 1: No, thank you, okay, Okay. So there's there's two things
Speaker 1: going on with this. There's the number line, right, there's
Speaker 1: this line, and along the way there are these demarcations
Speaker 1: almost of of what twelve is, right, yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's confusing because it's like started zero, then the first
Speaker 1: line you get one, and then you get two. But
Speaker 1: how is that a quantity? Like if you had twelve beans.
Speaker 1: It's confusing because a bean takes up space where a
Speaker 1: line is like a point along Yeah, point along the line. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's off. It's like there was this
Speaker 1: brain teaser about books on a shelf and how many
Speaker 1: you could fit in a certain space, and there was
Speaker 1: like something about that. It was fucked up and it
Speaker 1: tricked this exact part of the brain. The point is, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're going where does it start at the end.
Speaker 2: Of a twelve? Yes? Exactly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, or sort of at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: demarcation totally, And I believe you have a number line,
Speaker 1: but instead of it being a single line with marks,
Speaker 1: you have this. You're combining the two things into one thing,
Speaker 1: and you have almost a line. But in that line
Speaker 1: you have where twelve is.
Speaker 2: You have.
Speaker 1: A block that takes up space. It's like so it's
Speaker 1: like where where within it's almost like twelve minus twelve? Okay?
Speaker 1: What would almost trick you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly? Well is there one one? Almost? Like there
Speaker 2: it is? Yeah? No, I mean I mean zero to one?
Speaker 2: You want to talk about zero to one? When does
Speaker 2: one start the second after zero? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like space, there's a zero.
Speaker 1: This is exactly it is one.
Speaker 2: I feel so seen.
Speaker 1: I feel so seen. O, Kate, I know this is
Speaker 1: like I could weep. Okay, I feel it because there
Speaker 1: are people who have to cry. Okay, there are people
Speaker 1: like there are people who could hear this, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: and and be astounded okay, in like horror by our confusion, yeah,
Speaker 1: by questioning this, yeah, or like not understanding you know,
Speaker 1: they would perceive an absence of brain power in favor
Speaker 1: of an excess. Dare I say, Yeah, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: everyone who can who can do them, you know, because
Speaker 1: this can be a stigma too, like oh, you're good
Speaker 1: at you're good at math, so like you have no
Speaker 1: soul or something you know, not we're not talking about place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is huge.
Speaker 2: So let's just say it. This is worth nine episodes,
Speaker 2: don't you dare? Leave it?
Speaker 1: Okay, and trust me, I know what's good and what's
Speaker 1: good talk. So so you're going, what's the space between
Speaker 1: zero and one?
Speaker 2: Right? When does one start?
Speaker 1: So if you're at zero, okay, and now you are
Speaker 1: and now are you on a number line? Kind of
Speaker 1: are you in a line?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I'm kind of saying, like I I get really confused too,
Speaker 2: like rulers like eleven inches, like.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like the little like how zero is at
Speaker 1: the end, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly like on a zero exactly.
Speaker 1: The end of the ruler.
Speaker 2: What's what's on the end of the end of the zero. Well,
Speaker 2: here we go. Are you ready?
Speaker 1: See this is education because this is what if a
Speaker 1: child if you pose that question, okay, then it would
Speaker 1: be time for the unit where we go into negative numbers. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you'd actually ask the question and you've produced day
Speaker 1: there's an absence, what what could it be? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then they would give you the answer and you would go, yes,
Speaker 1: that does solve it, I believe, okay. And it's like
Speaker 1: so like on the ruler, right, be like two one
Speaker 1: and then zero. You're at the end of the ruler
Speaker 1: and you're saying, what's beyond?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Negative one? Yeah, negative two, right right right into hell.
Speaker 2: But the yeah, it's like or it's like noy, come
Speaker 2: for care, right, four hours? Yeah, what's four hours? Six
Speaker 2: to nine? No? No, no, that's wrong, six to ten, that's.
Speaker 1: Three k same issue, see right, same issue exactly. Okay,
Speaker 1: So when does the start is a big fucker okay
Speaker 1: with this this ship? Okay, time, Well, are you ready
Speaker 1: when to get really fucked up? I mean the fact
Speaker 1: that time is on the the sixty oh instead of
Speaker 1: on one hundred.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they fucked us with that.
Speaker 1: The fact that it's not in ninety seventy five and
Speaker 1: time to go to dinner because dinner is at seven.
Speaker 1: Oh it's not six seventy five, because dinner's at that
Speaker 1: is six seventy by.
Speaker 2: The way, straight up, mean the six eighty isn't a time?
Speaker 2: Come over at six eighty? Yeah, well six eighty. We'll
Speaker 2: take ten minutes to walk there, so we're fine because
Speaker 2: then we'll have another ten minutes. Yeah exactly. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: it's just checking the we just started doing. I started
Speaker 2: doing that right now. You know what time it is
Speaker 2: right now, four ninety five exactly. Yeah, actually it's four ninety.
Speaker 1: So there are times where I'll apply the time thing
Speaker 1: to I'll accidentally apply the time thing to just regular quantity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where I'm like, you know, I'm like almost like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you gave me thirty thirty beans. Out of
Speaker 1: the entire thing of beans, there must be thirty left.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not quite it. But I know what's happened.
Speaker 1: I know there's been so so here's a huge one
Speaker 1: that is just you know, this is just language. But
Speaker 1: three days like three days before your appointment, stop you know,
Speaker 1: putting retinol on your face.
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you mean three days. Yeah, if it's
Speaker 2: on Friday, four hours? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Or are we counting number line versus quantity appears yet again?
Speaker 2: It's so crazy, see that hours you're asleep? So count
Speaker 2: all right?
Speaker 1: Six times fifteen?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you know what I wanted to do? Well,
Speaker 2: five times fifteen. That's easier. So here's my question.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well that's because you're drawing it right.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, I have to.
Speaker 1: Write down what the what the problem I've posed is.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not doing the math five because I'll.
Speaker 2: Forget seventy five. That's my first question. So five times
Speaker 2: fifteen is seventy five? Could I just add six seventy six,
Speaker 2: seventy eight, seventy nine eighty eighty one is the answer?
Speaker 2: Eighty one?
Speaker 1: So you what you did? You added six instead of
Speaker 1: adding another fifteen? You forgot where were counting fifteens? I'm
Speaker 1: saying right, So let me just write down the original question.
Speaker 1: The original question was six times fifteen, right, ok So
Speaker 1: you were going for whatever reason, five times fifteen feels
Speaker 1: it's easier to.
Speaker 2: Go five times fifteen seventy five?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So could I add now? Why? Why?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Could I add ten to what? Oh wait, seventy five?
Speaker 2: Eighty five? Is the answer eighty five? If it is,
Speaker 2: that's crazy? Is it eighty five? Wait? Wait?
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm panicking. Wait what was the original question?
Speaker 1: Was it five times fifteen?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, wait wait what was it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Wait? Wait wait hold on? You had a six six
Speaker 2: times fifteen?
Speaker 1: Was the original question?
Speaker 2: Right? No? Right?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes? Is it is the answer times fifteen?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me just before before we go there, can
Speaker 1: I just do what I'm doing in my head? And
Speaker 1: I'm hoping the answer. I'm hoping the question was six fifteen,
Speaker 1: but I mean six times fifteen. I think it was. Yea,
Speaker 1: it was because you then said five times fifteens easier,
Speaker 1: and then you try to add a six to it
Speaker 1: to bring us around home.
Speaker 2: At the end, we needed to.
Speaker 1: Add a fifteen to it, but you added six, So
Speaker 1: therefore there's nine more. There's nine more you left on
Speaker 1: the table. Okay, I think so what was your original?
Speaker 2: Uh? Was your what was your original? Said? Si? I
Speaker 2: got excited. I'm just joking.
Speaker 1: This is obviously not the worst eighty But no, it's
Speaker 1: no way if it's six times fifteen. Okay, well know
Speaker 1: what I do. So six times fifteen, I go, we
Speaker 1: got tens and we got fives, right, I go, I go,
Speaker 1: six times ten gets me to sixty.
Speaker 2: Oh that's good.
Speaker 1: And then I go, six times five is thirty, and
Speaker 1: now we're at ninety.
Speaker 2: The answer is ninety. No way, that's crazy. Did not
Speaker 2: see that one coming away.
Speaker 1: So here's the other thing I want to point out
Speaker 1: really quick. Okay, you're still with me, all right? You ready?
Speaker 1: Because when you said is it eighty one or whatever?
Speaker 2: You said, okay, by the way.
Speaker 1: What about when we're doing the twenty five and you
Speaker 1: were like, You're like, is it like like or like
Speaker 1: we were doing we were doing thirty six times ten
Speaker 1: times one hundred whatever, and then you were like, is
Speaker 1: this something random?
Speaker 2: Like thirty eight?
Speaker 1: Hysterical? Okay, But so you're like doing all this in
Speaker 1: your head, you're like eighty one, and I think one
Speaker 1: of your issues, right, would be a block if I
Speaker 1: were your teacher, Yeah, would be you you go impatient
Speaker 1: and you hope that maybe you've landed on it. Yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: I get very asking you want the answer is that
Speaker 1: it though?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's it, even though you don't quite know
Speaker 1: why it's it.
Speaker 2: You let go. I'm done. Yeah, totally, totally, totally built.
Speaker 2: Day has charged.
Speaker 1: But when we're talking about six times fifteen, I think
Speaker 1: is what we're talking about, right and so and you
Speaker 1: go eighty one, Okay. What I think you're missing is that,
Speaker 1: however many fifteen's you add up, you're always going to
Speaker 1: be on a five or zero.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm talking about or not? Really?
Speaker 1: So fifteen plus fifteen.
Speaker 2: I got this thirty on my favorites. Actually, fifteen plus
Speaker 2: fifteen has always been a real anchor for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wonder if that's because of the hours.
Speaker 1: That's why quarter hour, half hour? Okay, it feels familiar.
Speaker 1: So fifteen So fifteen plus fifteen thirty? Right now, if
Speaker 1: you had dad another fifteen ano that what's happening here?
Speaker 2: Okay? Fifteen five magically appears at the bottom. Would you
Speaker 2: ask fifteen what was it? Thirty? The plus fifteen?
Speaker 1: I want to move you. I want to move you
Speaker 1: away from drawing doing those you were asking for. Fifteen
Speaker 1: plus thirty conceptually, is that the question? Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Then I would go it's forty five, it's actually a
Speaker 2: really easy one.
Speaker 1: Okay, because because you're at a half hour, you're at
Speaker 1: a half hour, and you're gonna add fifteen minutes, right,
Speaker 1: you know you're at forty five, right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So did you ever learn like the multiples? Did you
Speaker 1: ever learn the multiples? Like, we're gonna do multiples of five, five, ten, fifteen, twenty,
Speaker 1: twenty five, thirty, thirty five, forty forty five fifth.
Speaker 2: Of course that's a song and dance from the olden days.
Speaker 1: That you could you could sing? Yeah, yeah, could you
Speaker 1: do multiples of two?
Speaker 2: Probably? What I remember something to dance thirty one is
Speaker 2: any times zine eighty one? Yes, that one always stuck
Speaker 2: in there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so to me, those are like those multiples are
Speaker 1: like their own just story that absent of meaning, they
Speaker 1: hold like kind of get a vibe for them. So
Speaker 1: I've always felt like like there's there's some that just
Speaker 1: worked for me and some that don't.
Speaker 2: But Kate, could you do.
Speaker 1: Let's do multiples of fifteen just for a second, fifteen
Speaker 1: there comes next? If you have another fifteen.
Speaker 2: Thirty then forty five nunder fifteen? Is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I one?
Speaker 2: Uh oh forty five sixty yeah, sixty five no, no,
Speaker 2: sixty seventy.
Speaker 1: So let's start with you need to feel it fIF
Speaker 1: Wait wait, fifteen fifth, thirteen, thirty forty five, six sixty
Speaker 1: picture it? Are you saying sixty seventy five, seventy five eighty?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: You're doing multiples of five?
Speaker 2: Wait? Seventy five, fifty, ninety, seventy five, ninety right, huhm,
Speaker 2: seventy five goes to ninety sixty. Oh wait, multiples fifteens.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so sixty goes to seventy five, goes to ninety.
Speaker 2: It goes to one hundred and five. No, no, one
Speaker 2: hundred ten, No, no, no, can't be one of five,
Speaker 2: one of five.
Speaker 1: It's what were you doing?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Fifteen thirty, forty five, sixty, seventy five, ninety, one hundred
Speaker 1: and five.
Speaker 2: See, this is where it starts to get a little whack.
Speaker 2: This is where flying a part of me funky.
Speaker 1: All right, so let's just let's just take it back
Speaker 1: of it. Okay, multiples of twelve twelve?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm starting to shut down math wise.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll move off in one second, but let's
Speaker 1: just crush through for a second as an experiment.
Speaker 2: Twelve yep twelve or twenty four is a.
Speaker 1: Classic, a classic now and then I start to get
Speaker 1: little now into some troubled waters. Yeah, so then you
Speaker 1: go add another twelve to twenty four. How would you
Speaker 1: approach that not drying? Not drying conceptually the meaning of it?
Speaker 1: I gowans twelve beans thirty four?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, what got you ten? More? Right? We're adding
Speaker 2: twelve to twenty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and you added ten and you got to
Speaker 1: thirty four, can't you know?
Speaker 2: It's like I can tell this is good for my
Speaker 2: brain because you can feel it hurting. It hurts. All right,
Speaker 2: we'll move on great today and tell me what twenty
Speaker 2: four is. Tell me what twenty four plus twelve is.
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to give you the answer.
Speaker 2: Okay, why walking through it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take you through it according to your
Speaker 1: I'm going to take it through at thirty that's a memorization.
Speaker 2: I got way, I got I got I can do this,
Speaker 2: I can do this. Thirty six. I know you got it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: thirty six. And by the way, I knew that, and
Speaker 2: inherently I knew that right in that other way.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, I was trying to do it right.
Speaker 2: This you'll like this. Okay.
Speaker 1: Now you're in thirty six, and let's say you're gonna
Speaker 1: add another twelve. No, no, because you've got in this
Speaker 1: habit of adding ten plus two. I think you'll be
Speaker 1: able to fucking knock this out.
Speaker 2: Okay, for it. You'll be good for a couple. Are
Speaker 2: you ready check this out? Okay?
Speaker 1: So twenty four you added ten plus two, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you added the ten to the two to thirty four
Speaker 1: plus two six?
Speaker 2: Right, you got to thirty six. Just stay with me.
Speaker 1: This is the last one, I swear, Okay, because this
Speaker 1: could be breaked through. Okay, Okay, if you have thirty six,
Speaker 1: lock into thirty six field thirty six, okay, picturing it.
Speaker 1: You can't forget it. Okay, you're gonna add twelve to
Speaker 1: that using the same strategy. So you got from twenty
Speaker 1: four to thirty six is.
Speaker 2: Just eight.
Speaker 1: You got from wait, wait, wait, thirty What did I get?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Kate, you're doing really good. Okay, but you're really close. Okay,
Speaker 1: But because the eight is correct, this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Okay. So so you're at.
Speaker 1: Thirty six, you're gonna add ten then and then add
Speaker 1: two thirty six. You go forty eight. The two is
Speaker 1: forty eight. Yes, and then let's say you had to
Speaker 1: do it again. You've got another mouthful of twelve, but
Speaker 1: just because you're learning. Wait one second, so you're at
Speaker 1: forty eight, right, and I go add twelve strategy.
Speaker 2: It's gonna go crazy, though.
Speaker 1: I don't panic, I know, don't. Okay, just try it
Speaker 1: for a second. Forty eight four?
Speaker 2: Kay, I get to plus twelve fifty five there somewhere. Wait, wait,
Speaker 2: you're forty eight.
Speaker 1: You're at forty eight zero. Okay, nineteen forty eight, you're
Speaker 1: nineteen four.
Speaker 2: That helps, That helps, That helps again twelve years later.
Speaker 2: But that's cheating.
Speaker 1: It's like ten years later and two years later.
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 1: Six kay, ten years and two sixty okay, so hold on, No,
Speaker 1: nineteen forty eight plus ten right, fifty eight? You got
Speaker 1: to what fifty eight plus two sixty nineteen sixty?
Speaker 2: I did get it? Yes, God, that was hard. Thank you.
Speaker 2: You're a really sweet tutor.
Speaker 1: I think you learned a lot.
Speaker 2: You're a really sweet tutor. Wow wow wow.
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine how satisfied. If that was my job,
Speaker 1: I'd go home, the head off to dinner, and I'm
Speaker 1: like she was right. She was right there, like except
Speaker 1: for the panic, like like she's got it.
Speaker 2: You were really I felt in that moment like you
Speaker 2: really knew I could get it, and I didn't feel shame.
Speaker 1: Well that's that's one hundred percent essential because you shouldn't
Speaker 1: because I know you're doing things in your mind. I
Speaker 1: can guess some of them because some of them are
Speaker 1: how I think I knew. I was like, that's why
Speaker 1: I was like, we're gonna go for gold here, because
Speaker 1: this one's gonna when you're gonna add too, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a zero. You're gonna be at the fucking borderline here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you fucking did it. You're in your mind. It's
Speaker 1: it's just extra. It's a fucking you got. We're gonna
Speaker 1: heal the fucking nation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, We're gonna heal the baby.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: That really felt.
Speaker 1: I feel electrified, first of all, by I really feel
Speaker 1: like that who yeah, And and like I'm speaking to
Speaker 1: you because I am you, Like I just I'm you,
Speaker 1: plus a burning desire. Two like you were able to
Speaker 1: at some point be like L O L doesn't matter
Speaker 1: show yeah, So I need to show timmy you know so,
Speaker 1: So I love this dual existence of like I'm both
Speaker 1: you and I'm on the other side of.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've got one foot in, one foot out. It's interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, in some ways I enview you know,
Speaker 1: I just shut it out for not needing to master something,
Speaker 1: just to prove to the self. You know.
Speaker 2: That you Yeah, I don't struggle with that. I'd say
Speaker 2: to a fault perhaps, Okay, Well that was a real
Speaker 2: that was a real challenge. I love you for it.
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