WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Welcome Back Danny McCray! 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.400 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:20.759 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge, 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.560 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:31.240 Now your hosts, Mary Church, Danny mccraig, and Newi Scrugs. 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:39.920 It is the Players Lounge. It is a homecoming because 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:52.320 finally it's like the Rock. Finally, Danny mccraig players loudlay 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.800 my boy back in his day. Shouldn't this here? Man. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.800 I appreciate the warm welcome. Man, the crew is welcome. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.680 I had him go on to hiatus. Man. You know, 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:03.960 I need some time to myself, so I appreciate y'all 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.200 holding the time for me. But the man is back, 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.479 the crew is back, and I come back in here, 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.520 and we got some stuff to talk about with this draft. 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.800 You gonna know good. People want to know, Yes, you know, 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.400 people want to know what mccraig think about you. They 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.600 already know what I think. They already know what new 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:25.440 he thinks. What does mccraig think about what the Cowboys 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.440 have done with all these draft picks? By the way, 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:32.520 this is the player's language. He is Danny mccraig's been 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.520 on assignment. He's finally back. He's buried church. By the way, 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:40.080 they're both former Dallas Cowboys sus a long time Cowboys reporters. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.080 So yes, we have said right here on the Dallas 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.720 Cowboys dot Com radio network what we have felt about 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.240 the draft. You weren't around, so go ahead. Yeah, Look, 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.840 you know, I honestly wanted us to go get an 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:58.080 offensive tackle. And everybody knows the reasons why health has 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:02.560 been a huge issue. Tackle and love tackle quarterback Broker's 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.160 ankle last year. You think that we try to put 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.800 up a wall to get him to protection so he's 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.600 not running all over the place and we had to 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.119 worry about him to get injured. Did we just paid 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.200 one sixty two, one hundred and sixty ms report saying 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.079 Tyron Smith looks like twenty eleven Tyron Smith. That's what 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.600 they say. You've been around the game long enough, saying 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:22.720 you've been around a game long enough to know that 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:28.120 don't mean nothing. Man, don't have no pads on collins, 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.040 that's what they're saying. Ahead, not gonna say what I 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.440 heard about people out of shape. That's what I heard. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.000 But so so we ended up getting linebacker in the 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.760 first round, which is confusing. But I know the first 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.919 the two corners that we had on our board were 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.519 already gone, So I know you guys are super disappointed. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.520 That's a little and the fact that we didn't get 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.760 those two guys, but we didn't get a linebacker. He 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:54.320 ran with fourty three, So Michael Parsons he's got some ability. 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.040 I am wondering whose spot he's going to be taken 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:02.160 because we'll be in a lot of nickel and there 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.520 won't be a lot of three linebacker sets going on. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.680 So Jalen or my man vander esh is gonna be 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.840 on that pond somewhere. So we go, We're gonna find 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:13.640 out who that is. We got us a cornerback in 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.560 the second Uh. That worries me just because we got 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.120 a second year corner on one side, and I feel 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.400 like they're almost gonna force this other guy, Joseph to 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.720 be a starter. Tiger midway through the season, Tiger, what 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.679 that got to do with you always pumping up at last? True? 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.960 He went to Kentucky. He started it at LA and 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.680 then he went to Kentucky. He was invited. I was 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:44.200 invited to me. I first thought it, Brother, you gotta 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:49.040 be real. You got to be a problem. You say, 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.880 hey man, you too hot. We may want to go 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.400 on down the road. Well, well we'll hold on to you. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.280 We'll hold on to you. Makes me want to know 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:04.520 what can I see the inside reporter? Really? Hey amen, thanks? Thanks? 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.920 But yeah, man, he couldn't cut it. But I'm just saying, 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.480 you know, it worries me just because if they do 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.400 force him into that role. You got two young guys 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.960 out there, uh and no true like really true veteran 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:21.320 leadership in the cornerback locker room. Um, so that worries me. Uh. 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.839 We got some more d lineman. I was surprised that 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:28.680 we didn't really get some really high impact defensive tackles, okay, um, 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.880 because we talked about that as well. So I'm trying 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.480 to figure out where that is or We're gonna pick 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.279 up somebody in free agency late? What is what is 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.240 going on with that? Because I feel like the key 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:40.480 positions that we needed to help in we really didn't 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:44.279 get that taken care of, uh with with top notch players. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.919 So maybe these these these guys are paying out. We 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.279 did get a lineman in the fourth round. Yeah we 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.720 got them. Yeah you are you are happy with you 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.840 like that fourth round? Yeah, I mean, I mean we 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.120 finally got one. So yeah, I'm glad we got somebody 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:04.440 to possibly back up Tiring and Lay because you know, 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.560 if history it says anything, then one of them is 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.719 gonna be missing some games. And we added an extra game. Yeah, 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:14.839 so when y'all just making it worse. But there's a 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:19.000 great LSU guy on the squad. All right, great too, Huh. 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.960 We got your real cocks, real cocks. And I feel 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.640 like he's going to be one of those ball hawking 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.720 guys who can get those interceptions and cause those fumbles. 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.000 Once he picks up the speed of the game, it's 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:33.480 gonna be a little different. Give him some time, and 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.800 I think he's gonna be one of those guys year. 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.000 I think you will see the field this year. Uh. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.039 I think you'll see the field on special teams. Uh. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.480 And you know, seventeen games he might get in and 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:50.240 and have some special special packages for him. But uh, 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.320 I'm always gonna for LSU guys, So I think he's 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.760 gonna make some place other than that. You know, it 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:58.680 is what it is. I hope these guys it makes 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.600 some noise. But I'm really worried about all right, and 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:05.680 love tackle ball. Still let me address here he goes 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:11.200 the tackle. Here, he goes, Hey, you're gonna go for 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:20.479 here a minute. So Pene soul, as you and I spoke, 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.600 wasn't going to be there. Wasn't there, Okay, So so 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:30.320 he's now gone. The next highly rated tackle is Rashaan 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:36.039 Slater for Northwestern who has short arms and the Cowboys system, 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.440 Slater is a guard. Were you willing to take a 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.400 guard at twelve? Because that's what they were gonna do. Okay. 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:48.240 His arms were either the same were shorter than Zack Martins, 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.480 and Zack Martin was an All American left tackle in 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.800 order Dame and the Cowboys kicked him inside. I mean, 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.200 that's that's that's absolutely fine. But that's here we go 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.000 with that draft stuff. The hand size, this size, that's side. 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.800 The man played tackle. He is up in the first 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:09.080 round because he's good with his footwork and his ability 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.560 to have that anchor when somebody is rushing down in 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.080 the middle of what do we keep talking about? Consistently? 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.200 They talk about the health of the scheme of what 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.680 they do in the Cowboys scheme. And I got to 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:23.960 give the Cowboys credit here. Okay, last fifteen years, they 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.800 have done a very good job identifying offensive lineman and 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.360 getting people in here who could play the way they want. Oh, 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.080 hold on, hold on now, because when Tyring lay up, 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.000 go down that offensive lineman that they've been picking to 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:40.960 come in there, I still see Adrian Clayton Russ. He's 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:51.440 still getting sacked. I still very last year was just 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.760 talking about these guys that was coming in and and talking about, 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.560 hey man, cam Kelling, don't get him some help and 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:58.680 get some chips and some tight ends over there. That 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.800 coaching that was that was, but that was also their 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:08.520 ability to block or there like there. The Atlanta game 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.680 is one of those where I looked at Jason Garrett 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.000 Scott land a head and I was just hot because 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.640 this came down to coaching. So Tyrn's out of the game. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.080 Can't you gonna throw Chads Green out there? And Chad's green? Yes, 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.080 he was getting beat to a drum, but they left 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.920 him out there one on one some chips. At the 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:24.920 end of the day, I can't sit around here and 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.680 ask you to go beat Tying and you're not help 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:29.680 this man. And then once you saw he had the 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.560 two sacks, why are you still sitting here letting them 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.040 go one on one? What was their idea? You know what, 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.000 Chads Green, you go sit on the bench Byron Bell, 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.440 you come on on here. Let's get this right now. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.439 Let's get the coach. That's why, man, you're not hearing it. 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.960 If you are, if you are a backup, nobody's asking 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:47.960 you to be Tyrant Smith. They ask you to go 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.080 out there and at least get in the man's way. 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.480 How many sacks did Adrian Clayborne had before he met 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.760 up with Chad's Green? And Bill who I don't know 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:01.440 that was probably probably playing because of that game. I 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.319 just saw it with the brown man still got the 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.360 drind still running around him making money based on what 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.080 he did to the work. But we're the guys that 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.520 were here last year at the tackle positions that came in. 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:16.160 They substituted where they as bad as Bell. I love 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.320 Duck Collins and I always remember a conversation I had 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.719 with Duck Collins and several other people for an NBA game, 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.040 and he says, your job as a coach is to 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.760 understand the wards of your football team, I mean the 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.160 wards of your team and cover them up. What you 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.440 saw when Tyrans Smith went out. You saw the ward. 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.520 The ward was Chaz Green is not a dude who 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.040 can handle Clayborne one on one. You didn't help the 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.360 guy out. And it was something that I had a 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.200 conversation with and after they've long got rid of Chaz Green, 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.439 I talked to Tyres Miss another game maybe two years ago. 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:48.640 Was afterwards. I said, Tyrant, why do they not gives 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.520 these guys help when you're not playing? He said, it's 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.240 just our system. It's what we do. And see, to me, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.600 who gives a frog's fat rear end if you got 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.120 four dudes and a wide receiver in the pattern, if 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.800 your left tackle is getting beat to a drum, help 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.560 this man put it tight in do something. So to me, 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.440 that was a coaching mouthfeasance. When I know you can't 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.439 go do it, don't go do it? Okay? Did we 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:11.960 not good? Did we continue to do the same thing 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.160 last year when Jason Garrett was gone. Did we sit 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.320 here on this show and say, hey man, why are 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.560 they not helping these dudes? If they go out this 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.360 next game and they don't chip this dude put a 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.360 tight end over there and hit him with a running back. 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.439 Put the running back on the same side that crazy 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:29.640 complain about the stand. I complain plained about that too. 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:31.880 I'm still complaining exactly. So we still got the same 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.360 thing going on. We're talking about system, the Cowboys system. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:38.720 That's the one that's how you start. That's you start up. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.160 Because they would have kicked him in that guard and 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.719 his guard and tackles that you should have tried to 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:50.120 go out at uh at tackle. But what if he 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:55.440 didn't beat out tiring or like and he not one 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.080 of them, You're not gonna have to beat out either 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:05.000 one of them. They dudes ain't like going ain't right now. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:13.560 He's twenty eleven Smith right now, twenty let twenty one 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:15.840 game could be twenty eleven Newerhood. You know what mean? 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.559 You with that best? Did you see that picture with 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:26.400 the less That wasn't twenty eleven new I wasn't even bad. 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:31.880 That was six six. Did he have her? Yeah? Yeah, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.400 it's going and he had the best. It was not 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.760 the flash or something. It made it look like construction. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.400 Let's get back to it, man, Let's get putting on 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.120 the camera. No on the game. I don't do that. 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.480 It was already on NBA TV. If you missed it. 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.240 You missed it? Well, you look heavy. Ain't known look 0:11:54.280 --> 0:12:00.160 I fat? Look like that came. Yeah, that was the 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.840 the last day. Man, I don't know who cut my hair, 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:09.720 not actually paid for that cut career. Let him see enough, man, 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.880 this is this is good enough. It's good enough. That 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.480 wasn't even twenty That wasn't even twenty eleven. Man, nineteen 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:21.360 ninety six, Kobe Bryant press conference. So how do we 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:26.440 feel about Kelvin Joseph overall? Yeah, questions, there's definitely questions. 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.400 But my biggest concerning My biggest question about it is 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.760 he got the same type of body build, and we 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.400 talked about this before, he get the same type of 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.760 bodybuild as a Anthony Brown or Jay Lou And nothing 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.440 against those guys, but I feel like that type of 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.599 body built is subject. You gotta put that at the 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.440 nickel position. You gotta leave that at the nickel position 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.280 on outside. I haven't seen it. Not the saying that 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.800 they can't do it, but I just haven't seen someone 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.600 with that kind of body build, that size five eleven. 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.280 I think he's five eleven. What buck eighty buck ninety 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.400 be out there and be half success. I mean receivers 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:57.760 are just too big out here. I think you need 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.400 a Trayvon Diggs type body out there to make this 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.920 defense go. But that's just me talking to you know, 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.840 that's just me, just my thoughts. But that's that's the 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.640 thing that bothers me a little bit about this. I 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:08.280 think he could be a dog on the inside, not 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.560 sure about the outside. Are they gonna Is he gonna 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:15.679 be starting opposite of trey Von Diggs midway through the season? 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:17.719 Will he Will he be starting about the end of 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.960 the year. By the end of the year at one 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.199 of those positions, either nickel or outside. I think he 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.400 will because they haven't addressed that outside corner I think 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.480 yet um as far as a drafting, free agency is concerned. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.400 So I think he'll be out there at least maybe 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:30.959 midway through the season. I think he'll be out there. 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:36.040 That's scary. It's a young Quinn man. Listen. I told 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.679 you I was hoping that the dude got here and 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.760 he got some players on defense, but them cornerbacks, man, 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.160 I'm still worried. Uh, you're really gonna have to have 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.080 some really serious pass rushing. Everybody's gonna have to. Uh, 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.520 they're gonna have to be working together a hold on 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.480 the same accord. And look, this is legitimate. I mean 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.880 what you're saying and being worried, and not just about 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.520 the corners. It's about this whole dog on defense. I mean, 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.600 people talk about, oh, the Cowboys, you know they're gonna 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.600 be that they should win the East. No, there's still 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:10.960 defensive questions here. The hope to me is come June first, 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.839 because there are teams who have serious issues with their 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.760 cat that maybe you can find some help and get 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.880 a veteran player in free agency. And I just like 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.320 to they're not done. That's kind of my feeling right now. 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.400 They're not done. Last year, who thought you'd seen Everson 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.760 Griffin get on the market. Now it didn't work out, 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.200 But at the time, we're sitting here thinking, hey, here's 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.280 a guy who could could come in here and help. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:38.600 Who knew that Mike Nolan would be was and it 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.000 was so bad. Griffin went to them, can you trade me? 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.440 Because I need to get my SAX because I'm trying 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.880 to get paid. So so I just think that there's 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.720 still an opportunity to see what else can happen out there. 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.920 My question with Joseph is the concern that when people 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.440 talk about the character, concern them. How much do you 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.520 love this? And you guys have played this game. There's 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.680 a lot of talented people that come in this league, 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.120 but how many of them love it? Years ago, they 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.320 brought in Duwayne Goodrich, who was a part of that 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.320 Tennessee team that won the championship in nineteen ninety eight. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:12.960 He was a defensive player year. They got him in 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:16.920 the second round and lo and behold good He just 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:21.000 didn't love football. He liked being a cowboy, spent way 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.760 too much time, you know, out at night. It ended 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.640 up leaving a strip club, hit a guy in the 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.560 middle of the of one eighty three and then drove 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.360 home and let the guy there to die, and they 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.400 ended up. Yeah, yeah, it was bad, you know, career off, 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:40.040 you know, but overall good. He just didn't love football. 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.600 Wasn't that he could play. And you guys have been 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.560 around him. So that's the question. Everybody will tell you, 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.520 Joseph's got talent. You don't go to LSU and play 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.240 as much as he did. If you can't play, yeah 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.240 you don't, you don't. But when LSU says, hey man, 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.600 thank you, and then Kentucky's here, and then you missed 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.320 the last two games in Kentucky. And then I'm hearing 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:03.000 conflicting Then, um, someone here the Star told me, hey, 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:06.280 look we got great reports from Mark Stoops, head coach Kentucky. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.720 Then I've heard other people who aren't at the Star 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.240 say Stoops was like, man, don't sit up here and 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.480 here deal with this dude. Then I've heard someone else 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:16.760 say lsu people call somebody at the Star like what 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:21.480 are you doing? So and look, Calvin has heard these 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.520 things and he's posted about hey, people to think they 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.960 tee this day with me. So this is a great 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:31.360 challenge to the player. Can you be and live up 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:35.400 to everything that you can? There's talent there, you guys 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.880 know it's here that counts, man. And that's the thing, 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:39.960 because they got a bunch of dudes that they took 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.280 in his draft where you say huh for the fourth 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:48.920 round picked off the tackle Josh Balls. Okay, he's six 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:52.120 foot eight, three hundred pounds and he fits the way 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.880 cowboys like their long This is not some fat, slobby dude. 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.320 I mean, this is a guy that's got the I 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:01.240 mean he has that potential because of his off the 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:05.720 field issues right once again. When when Florida State tells 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.840 you to go ahead going bye by, that's a problem. 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.080 I mean, really, Florida State, you're too hot for Florida. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:13.520 But you know the history of the Cowboys is we 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:19.520 don't get nobody. Nobody is too hot and everybody. Before 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.760 the draft, I specifically asked Jerry Body because Parcels was 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.080 all about Parcels when he came to I don't have 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.560 time for the thugs. I got no time for bad guys. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.040 I want people with high characters. So he drafted a 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.680 lot of guys like Kevin Burnett, a Jason When, guys 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.000 who are captains and leaders for their football teams. I mean, 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.840 he wanted those kinds of guys. And I asked Jerry 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:42.520 Boden about Parcels and Jerry basically kind of said, yeah, yeah, 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:44.960 you're right, you want that. That was Parcels thing. But 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.080 at the end of the day, Jerry just wants some ballers. 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.560 So the kid Josh ball looks and you were out there, 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.320 he saw he looked good. He looks like he has 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.960 a kind of body who could be a starter. But 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.000 Florida State Tony League because he had ten eleven incidents 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.880 um of domestic violence with the girlfriend. Now he went 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.400 to Marshall, you didn't hear anything at all. He had 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:10.880 no incidents, and if he did, apparently they kept him down. 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.479 So you're now wondering, all right, what are you going 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.760 to get out of him? When he had his interviews 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.439 with one or five, three the fan and then he 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.160 did his media call, he was asked about it, and 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.879 you know, he was trying to brush it off, like, no, no, bro, 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.080 you have to answer for this. People want to know 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.960 who are they getting the cowboys? And I asked Jerry Bouten, 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.080 hey man, what are you doing? And you know they said, 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.600 guys are young men and make mistakes and they believe 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.760 that they're gonna be okay. But so he did it. 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:44.439 He says, he says he's a better person beating up 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:49.679 on girls. I'm not, but I'm not. They could go 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:51.880 one or two ways when we played with both of them. 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:55.080 So ROLANDA. McClain when he came in here, he came 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:56.879 in with a lot of baggage, and you know it 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:58.360 was I don't know if this guy could He ended 0:18:58.400 --> 0:18:59.920 up contributing to He was one of the leaders on 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:04.440 not taking back to it reverted back to it. And 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:06.560 the same with Greg Hardy. He came in here the 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.359 same type of baggage. It worked out for a little bit, 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.119 he made some plays and then by the end it 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.439 reverted right back to it. So, I mean, it's definitely 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.399 a tricky situation you got there. Yeah, I mean, do 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.000 you do you you know, do you say, all right, 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:19.919 you know he's learned this lesson, let's move forward with 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.000 this or do you kind of always kind of have 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:23.719 to keep your guard with guys like that. I mean, 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:27.959 it's it's tough. It's tough because the thing is, you know, 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.440 we know this is Dallas is one of the hardest 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.000 places for you to come and be able to focus 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.960 if you already have those type of issues, because this 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.120 it's different here. Yeah, you can go to any other 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:45.199 team maybe besides the Rams now since they LA, but 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.159 it's different when you're getting off the bus, when you're 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:53.440 hanging around the city, when you're going to it's different 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:55.800 many ways for you to get it to to some 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:57.719 trouble if you if your mind and your head not 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.080 on right, ain't so we'll see. So those are you know, 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:03.040 so when you talk about those to me, those are 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.720 the questions. I mean, does Josh Ball have talent yes? 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.880 Does Kelvin Joseph have talent? Yes? But you do have 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.479 those question marks about the players. And this is something 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:18.240 that even the Cowboys can't truly understand. How much does 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:19.800 a guy want to be good? How much does a 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.760 guy want to live up to their own potential to 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.000 be who they are? And I stand here as a 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.320 person who's loved to edit out some things in their 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:30.480 life that they will should have done that that was 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:34.040 pretty stupid. So I'm not perfect. But that's the thing 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.000 is you ask these guys, are you ready to take 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.360 advantage of your opportunity. I'll give you a good example. 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.120 And people were forgotten about it, but remember Dak Prescott 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.680 ended up getting a dui um before he got drafted. 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.040 Now it ended up getting dropped, and there was some 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.879 kind of some stuff about maybe the police officer had 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:51.640 some you know, a little maybe he was a little 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:53.399 bit too quick on the trigger. But bottom line is 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:55.639 that knocked Dak a little bit. But what have we 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:59.560 seen since he got here? Nothing? Nothing but right right, 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.640 So so we've seen this is where guys can can 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:04.920 can have a knock against him and then they pushed 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.960 past it. That's the legitimate question. And I'll tell you 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:09.879 the other thing. And you guys know this straight because 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.680 you have been in the locker room. If you have 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:16.000 guys with question marks, who's the person who can help 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.600 that player or put that player in the right perspective. 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.200 People always love to talk about how Jerry Jones messed 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.840 up not taking Randy Moss, and I continually say this, 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.320 Randy Moss succeeded because of where he went. Denny Green 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.280 was the head coach, Chris Chris Carter and Jake Read 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.160 Jake Reid who lives here downs for where These were 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:34.879 two wide receivers who had established themselves in the league, 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:37.000