1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Big Blay, Trey McBride sticking around the valley. Welcome in 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Bird Gang. I'm Danny Surrek filling in for Craig Greelou 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: alongside Zach Gershman. On today's show, McBride becomes the highest 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: bayed tight end in NFL history. We talk about his 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: impact on this offense, how free agency additions could have 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: shifted draft needs, and more. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: eight sixty nine, and it starts now. 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two po. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: To Baker, what Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 13 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 4: He's at the ten half of five pays it again, 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 4: So more hurry magic. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: WHOA, here's Danny sirek. 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna sound a little different today on Cardinals Cover two. 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Maybe in a good way, better way, better way, No Craig, 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: no problem. Danny Surrek with Zach Ershman, and I'm excited 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: because I took my vacation at the uh perfectly or 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: maybe ill timed week of free agency frenzy, So it 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: took me a moment to be able to talk about 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: the moves of Josh Sweat and Dalvin Thomlinson. You to 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: your vacation on the week where the Cardinals brought in 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: Kalays Campbell and gave Trey McBride a contract extension, So 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: this is really your first opportunity to talk about. 26 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: Those Why do these things happen when we're not here though? 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: Why do bad things happen to good people? That's a 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: great question. 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 4: Zacually, I woke up from a nap to a buzz 30 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 4: from Adam Schefter. 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: It's not like he called me. 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 4: He just tweeted and said, kalais Campbell's coming back to 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: the valley. I'm like, okay, we can't like rub our 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: eyes and like, see if this is really like? We 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 4: got to get to work even though we're off, we 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: got to get to work. And then I was back 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: in college. I'll speaking to a group of college students 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: at Penn State because of course Penn State, and my 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: phone died like twenty minutes until I get back to 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 4: the hotel, nothing new is going to happen. Fifty misread 41 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 4: text messages later and Drey McBride is now the highest 42 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 4: paid tight end in the NFL. So busy times frustating. 43 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how it works. McBride signed a four year 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: contract extension. He's here through the twenty twenty nine season, 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: the highest paid tight end and NFL history. That alone 46 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: is crazy and it's very well deserved when you look 47 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: at one the journey he's had. Hardly played his rookie year, 48 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: came off the bench his second year because he was 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: playing behind Zach Ertz, didn't get opportunities until Artz went 50 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: down with an injury, and then McBride was also playing 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: without his franchise quarterback, so it took some time to 52 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: build that chemistry. So really a year and a half 53 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: of being the starter really one full season for McBride, 54 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: and the way he has just popped off has been 55 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: absolutely incredible and he feels the same way. When he 56 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: spoke with the media last Friday, that was what made 57 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: him emotion. That's where he got a little teary talking 58 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: about the journey it took him to get here. 59 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: Well, you also asked him about his journey and that's 60 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 4: when he really started to reflect and well, a lot 61 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: of these football players, you know, these are prideful, macho guys. 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: To see them, you know, pull back the current a 63 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 4: little bit and showcase some of that emotion. Just how 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 4: much this means. This is life changing opportunities, not just 65 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 4: to play in the NFL, but the rewards and the 66 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 4: benefits that you get that come along with it. And 67 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: you know, you could definitely tell for a small town 68 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: kid from Fort Morgan, Colorado to be living here in 69 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 4: the valley and to now become the NFL's highest paid 70 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: tight end. Good for Tray as a human being, because 71 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: we also have gotten to know him through community service events. 72 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 4: There's a reason why he was the twenty twenty four 73 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 4: Cardinals nominee for the Walter Payon Man of the Year. 74 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: But also just on the field, he has dominated and 75 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 4: when Johnathan Gandon always talks about when you have a jersey, 76 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: you have to make the most out of it on 77 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: any given game day. His first game he was inactive 78 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: as an Arizona Cardinal, and that was a top pill 79 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 4: from this rookie. But to see him maximize and make 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 4: the most of every single opportunities he's had since it's 81 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 4: the blueprint for not letting adversity shake you, but also 82 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: how to just persevere and push through it. 83 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: Understandably, so that confidence has not been there since day one. 84 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: McBride has been open about that. That is something that 85 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: has taken time because of the journey and the limited 86 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: opportunities he had early on in his career. Going into 87 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: his second year, there was a complete shift in this building, 88 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: a new front office, a new coaching staff. McBride talked 89 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: about on the podium how after the staff came here, 90 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: he sat down with offensive coordinator Drew Petzing and was 91 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: more or less told, you probably won't get the amount 92 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: of snaps that you're looking for, and that was a 93 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: hard pill to swallow. So McBride had to put in 94 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: the work on the practice field and make the most 95 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: of the opportunities when he saw the playing field. 96 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 4: It also shows that this coaching staff coming in zach 97 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: Ertz was not the same zach Ertz that he was 98 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: in Philadelphia. 99 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: Throughout his time with Arizona Cardinals. 100 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: He was also coming off his knee injury as well, 101 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: was rehabbing and you know that first season with Josh 102 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 4: Dobbs was the starting quarterback. Then the relationship just were 103 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: not there, and then ultimately the Cardinals and zacher Itz 104 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: part of the ways and to see Trade McBride flourish 105 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: in this opportunity. Outside of Trey McBride at that point, 106 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 4: you had Elijah Higgins who was still learning how to 107 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: become a tight end after playing wide receiver in college. 108 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: So really it was just Trade McBride's room for that 109 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 4: second year in the league. And we always saw that 110 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: We always talk about that first year to second year jump. 111 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 4: This was really the first opportunity we had for Trade McBride. 112 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: That year two to year three was like the first 113 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 4: year one to year two jump that you expect from 114 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 4: a player at the position, playing a lot of meaningful 115 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 4: snaps and to see him have over eleven hundred yards. 116 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 4: He had the pair of touchdowns in I know he 117 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: wants to get into the end zone a lot more 118 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 4: this coming year, but over one hundred receptions eleven hundred yards. 119 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: There are players at in today's NFL. They get a 120 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: lot of contracts, especially during this time of year, and 121 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 4: you look at dollars tign and you go, ooh, Trey McBride, 122 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: he deserves it. 123 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: The passing game runs through McBride. He was the team's 124 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: leading receiver last season one hundred and eleven receptions, which 125 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: broke his own franchise record. He hits at prior for 126 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: most receptions in a single season by a tight end 127 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: in franchise history. He surpassed one thousand receiving yards, only 128 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: the second tight end and Cardinal's history to do that. 129 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: And he goes off and earns his first pro bol nod, 130 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: And yes, he did not find the end zone off 131 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: and that is something that was bugging him. And you 132 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: can absolutely guarantee he's going to be on his mind 133 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: in the offseason. When you watch the film, every other 134 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: part of the field, he was an impact player. He 135 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: had sixty three receptions for a first down. He was 136 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: snagging balls that should not have been catchable, and that 137 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: is something that you can feel. It is tangible when 138 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: McBride goes and he hurdles the player he snags in 139 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: a one handed catch. He makes an impressive play like that, 140 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: even if it's yards after catch, he led. He led 141 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: the team in yards after catch. He actually had five 142 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen of those, and that energizes the team. 143 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: And he might not be the most vocal leader. He's 144 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: not given pregames speeches in the locker room, he is 145 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: rejuvenating a team and giving them that boost when they 146 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: need it. 147 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 3: We talk about the stats here. 148 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 4: We're messing around with the new analytics server, and I 149 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 4: was able to pinpoint in a stat that I thought 150 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: was very interesting because we talk about the connection between 151 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray and Trade McBride. Out of Trade McBride's eleven 152 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: hundred yards, five hundred and nineteen of those came on 153 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: first down, and you mentioned the yards after catch. Out 154 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 4: of those five nineteen, two hundred and forty nine were 155 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: yards after catch. It just shows that early on in 156 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 4: downs and and drives, Kyler Murray is looking to his 157 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: favorite tight end early and often because merely fifty percent 158 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 4: of that comes on first down plays, the ball is 159 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: going Trade McBride's way. And I know we're going to 160 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: talk a little bit about Kyler a little bit later on, 161 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: but he was all Wolf and Luke on Tuesday and 162 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 4: he said something that I thought was very interesting about 163 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: his relationship with Trey, and I have it here. He said, here, 164 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: I've never played with the tight end like Trey. Growing up, 165 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: when you play quarterback, they say the tight end is 166 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: the quarterback's best friend. This guy right here is the 167 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 4: true definition of that. And I think that Kyler calling 168 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 4: Trey McBride one of the first people to call him is, 169 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: Trey McBride said during his press conference, is beautiful that 170 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: you have that relationship off the field with your quarterback 171 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: and your tight end. But on the field it does 172 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 4: run through Trey McBride and Kyler. Murray plays his best 173 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 4: when Trey's involved. 174 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite stories when you're talking 175 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: about players that congratulated McBride, and Murray was one of 176 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: the first ones. McBride was actually on the golf course 177 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: with Zavin Collins when he got the call from his 178 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: agent about the deal coming in. And the story's pretty 179 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: funny because McBride said, Hey, you know, I told Zavian 180 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: that I had to take the whole off. I had 181 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: to take a phone call, and so how did Zavon 182 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: repay him a double bogie? But you know what, look, 183 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: McBride said, he was having one of the best rounds 184 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: of his life playing golf, and I'm sure that getting 185 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: that phone call about that check that was about to 186 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: hit made the day a little more special. 187 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: Of course, and getting to have a teammate to share 188 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: that with. I know Trey. The news got released before 189 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: Trey was ever able to call his family. I guess 190 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 4: that's how Adam scheftor works. He wakes me up from 191 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 4: my naps and then he also, you know, tweets this 192 00:08:59,080 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 4: out a little bit earlier. 193 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: Can't be stopped. 194 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 4: Adam Schefter certainly cannot, although he could read Asycardinals dot 195 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: com and tweet out similar Anyway. 196 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: We're not going to touch that. 197 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 4: That is that neither here or there. But Zavin Collins 198 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 4: just recently went through a contract extension before training camp 199 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: or during training camp in the early stages of it. 200 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: Zavin Collins got put onto your contract extension. So to 201 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: have that deal be made and to be sharing the 202 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 4: golf course with one of your teammates who just recently 203 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 4: shared that that jubilation of getting that raise, it's pretty awesome. 204 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: I like that this deal was done before training camp, 205 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: before OTAs. Even that's not going to be something that 206 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: might be lingering on McBride's mind when he's out there. 207 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: Even though we know that the agents take care of 208 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: the business side, it is nice that that is done. 209 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: This front office has sent a message loud and clear. 210 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 3: You come to. 211 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: Work and you work hard, you produce, you do things 212 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: the right way, and you put the team above yourself, 213 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: you will be rewarded. Zavin Collins contract extension, Buddha Baker. 214 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: James Connor yelled to Rohold. Now you add in Trey McBride. 215 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: The message has been sent. If we feel like you 216 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: are a piece and integral piece of this team, and 217 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: you are an important piece for what we want to 218 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: accomplish in the future, you will be rewarded with that 219 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: and we will do what we can to keep you here. 220 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 4: The Cardinals weeded out a lot of players their first 221 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: season with Jonathanana and Manti Austin Ford at the helm, 222 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: even during the season. Last season twenty twenty four was 223 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 4: no different. A lot of moves were made during the year, 224 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: a lot of familiar faces were walking in the door 225 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 4: walking out of the door. I think of guys like 226 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: Darren Hall and Andre shasherat who when you needed bodies, 227 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 4: who can you rely on. Well, these are players that 228 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: you know the type of character and what they bring 229 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 4: to the room. All it takes is one to really 230 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 4: hurt that room. But when you know the type of 231 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: quality of people that you're bringing in, guys that genuinely 232 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 4: love football, when you're able to make some of those moves. 233 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: And I know it's a little bit crazy probably to 234 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 4: bring up guys like Andre Shacherat and Darren Hall in 235 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 4: the same conversation as the Trey McBride's and the Buddha Bakers. 236 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: But it really goes from the top down because we 237 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 4: see throughout our times in the locker room, these guys 238 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 4: are always interacting with each other. Kyler Murray's talking to 239 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: the wide receivers, the offensive line guys in the corner 240 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: of the room, we're talking to the defensive line guys 241 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: who they essentially share a wall with. So to have 242 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: these type of players here, but also these type of 243 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 4: people Mani, Austin Ford and JG they have a type 244 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 4: and that type is truly on full display. 245 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: Chemistry is crucial, so is consistency. Now the Cardinals have 246 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: brought in some new faces on defense, and that was 247 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: where they needed to do that. When you're talking about 248 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: the players that have moved on in free agency, when 249 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: you're talking about positions that you needed to improve from 250 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: last season, the offense is pretty consistent. When you're looking 251 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: at the majority of your offensive line, your running backs room, 252 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: your wide receiver's room, your tight end, your quarterback. How 253 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: can that really make a difference for this Cardinals team 254 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: that is ascending and in a division where the door 255 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: is really wide open because the other three teams don't 256 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: have that same consistency. 257 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: It's huge, It's huge. 258 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 4: You look at what the Rams have right now, and 259 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: I know Rams right now are is the betting favorites 260 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: for winning the NFC West. But Matthew Stafford doesn't have 261 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 4: Cooper Cup there anymore, and he has a different guy 262 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 4: now in Davante Adams. Well, when you think about that, 263 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: you would assume that it would click automatically, but that 264 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 4: we saw it here with Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior. 265 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: That chemistry does not click right away. So what are 266 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 4: the Rams going to look? 267 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: Click? On paper? They might look pretty good. 268 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 4: But who's to say that that's actually how they look 269 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: come Sundays when the ball ends up being snapped. Obviously, 270 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 4: the San Francisco forty nine ers are a totally different team, 271 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: as are the Seattle Seahawks because they now they now 272 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 4: have a new quarterback in Sam Darnold and different weapons 273 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: being Cooper Cupp and now going into their second year 274 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: with Mike McDonald as head coach. However, with this Cardinals team. 275 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 4: You have year number three with Drew Petsy as an 276 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. There have been a lot of talks. Kyler 277 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: was talking about on the radio how he talks all 278 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: the time with Drew and Izzy about things that he 279 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 4: liked and didn't like throughout the season. He's talked with 280 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 4: us about that as well. Throughout the year. He's always 281 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 4: self evaluating, as is this entire team. That continuity is 282 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: super important in. I know that there are a lot 283 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 4: of questions surrounding the offensive line, and when we talk 284 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 4: about our mock drafts, we will probably touch on that 285 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 4: a little bit more. But this offensive line and throughout 286 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 4: all the weapons, they seem to be running it back 287 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 4: in a lot of ways. And there has to be 288 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: confidence from Jonathan Gannon, from Drew ptsing from Manti asin 289 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: Fort that they have all the guys that in the 290 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: building already. 291 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about it. The main draft discussions, offensive 292 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: line has always been up there. It's really been heavy 293 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: when you're looking at the Cardinals things that we have 294 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: talked about as a as a group here on our 295 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: podcasts or articles. When you're looking nationally at analysts, it's 296 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: been a lot of defensive tackle and edge rushers above 297 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: offensive line mocked to the Cardinals at sixteen. Those who 298 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: have been areas of need those two positions specifically also 299 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: have some of the most star power and the most 300 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: depth in this draft. That makes sense now that the 301 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals have added Kalai's Campbell, Dalvin Thomlinson, Josh Sweat, you 302 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: are expected to have a healthy bj oj Laurie, Justin Jones, 303 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: Belon Nichols, Darius Robinson. How does that change what the 304 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals should do at sixteen and if offensive line should 305 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: now jump to the priority because that depth is not 306 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: there in the draft. 307 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: So we know that Mani Austin Fort likes to take 308 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 4: offensive lineman in the previous two draft classes, I expect 309 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: him to take another offensive lineman, whether it is in 310 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 4: the first round or the second round. I do expect 311 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: an offensive lineman. 312 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: To be taken. 313 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: But to answer your question, Danny, about how does Kalaius' 314 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 4: arrival in Dalvin Tomlinson's appearance and what else ever happens 315 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: on the defensive front seven with Josh Wett and Baron 316 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 4: Browning getting his contract renewed with the Arizona Cardinals. It's 317 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 4: interesting because Kenneth Grant has been the heavy favorite. The 318 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: Michigan defensive tackle has been the heavy favorite to join 319 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals. There hasn't been a mock draft up 320 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 4: until this previous mock Draft Tracker where Kenneth Grant did 321 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: not have multiple names linking him to the Arizona Cardinals. However, 322 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 4: he's kind of been replaced a little bit by the 323 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: likes of Walter Nolan and Derek Harmon from Oregon who 324 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: had a really solid Pro Day. He's starting to rise 325 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: up a lot of draft boards. We talk about the 326 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 4: fit if they have guys that they think with these 327 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: young players that could learn from Koalais, that could learn 328 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: from Dalvin Tomlinson, that could end up sharing a room 329 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: in having some of those rookie jitters out the way 330 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: because they are able to hear from guys who recently 331 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: experienced Darius Robinson like Dante Stills, I expect for them 332 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 4: to add to the position. To me, it's either going 333 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 4: to be defensive tack or edge. That's what I think 334 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: the Cardinals need to do in the first round. 335 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Still no offensive lineman at sixteen. 336 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 4: For you, Still no offensive linean at sixteen because I 337 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: think that some of the offensive linemen are starting to 338 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 4: slide down the boards a little bit. Tyler Booker is 339 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 4: a player that was a first round talent, and I 340 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: know Ron Wolfley talked about on The Big Red Rage. 341 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: She said that Tyler Booker is the ward daddy that 342 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 4: JG craves. Tyler Booker and mel Kiper's mock draft is 343 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: the Cardinals pick picking them forty seven if you're able 344 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: to get that first round talent there. And the reason 345 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: why Tyler Booker starts to slide down the board is 346 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: because he ran like a five three eight forty yard 347 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: dash in I never want to see my offensive line 348 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 4: and running forty yard dash outside of that event anyway. 349 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: But we know that the scouts do put some weight 350 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 4: into that. They they do hold some stock there, and 351 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 4: he starts to slide down the boards. Other mock drafts 352 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: still have Tyler Booker as a first round pick. So 353 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: if he's sliding down a little bit, or if he 354 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: starts to hit early on in the second round, you 355 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: want to trade up to get him. I completely understand that, 356 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: but I think with just the crop of talent that 357 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 4: is available at defensive tackle and an edge rusher, they 358 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: really have their choice in bringing best player available at 359 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 4: those positions. 360 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm in the opposite camp of you. Come on, there 361 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: is so much depth and so much talent in the 362 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: defensive line room with the edge rushers, that you can 363 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: take an offensive lineman at sixteen and still get what 364 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: is a first round great a player in round two 365 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: at pick forty seven. I'm not necessarily saying that I 366 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: think think the Cardinals don't take a defensive tackle at 367 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: sixteen because I do still believe if there is a 368 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: player that you think can be a game changer, a 369 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: wrecord for you for many years to come, you need 370 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: to strike while the iron's hot. You're not necessarily going 371 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: to have that in next year's draft. Yes, the Cardinals 372 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: have copious amount of weapons in the defensive line room 373 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: right now. One, competition is always good. Two, you are 374 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: using the draft to build for the future. And three, 375 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: when you start looking at the contracts, some of the 376 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: players in this Cardinals defensive line room, a lot of 377 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: them are only here through twenty twenty five, or if 378 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: they're here through twenty twenty six, don't even have guaranteed 379 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: money that y're so it would make it possible that 380 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: the Cardinals would move on. So you don't have a 381 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: lot of long term death depth in that room right now, 382 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: and if the draft gives you the opportunity to get 383 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: a player that could provide that for you for the 384 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: long haul, now would be the time to do so. 385 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: I do think the moves that have been made in 386 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 1: free agency makes it more likely that an offensive lineman 387 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: would be taken at sixteen. 388 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 4: I don't disagree with that because I do think that, 389 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: you know, I see a lot of players like Kelvin 390 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: Banks Junior from Texas that you know, a lot of 391 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 4: mock draft analysts have the Cardinals making moves to get 392 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: Chad Reuter has the Cardinals trading up to I believe 393 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 4: it's pick number thirteen in his mock draft with the 394 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins to select to select Kelvin Banks Junior. However, 395 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 4: Field bay Field the Yates from ESPN has him at sixteen. 396 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 4: But the interesting thing is he has Parashawntson Junior going 397 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 4: back from the left side of the line to the 398 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: right side of the line. I understand the logic of 399 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 4: having of drafting an offensive lignment in that spot because 400 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 4: Jonah Williams is still coming off and a knee injury himself. 401 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 4: He's also going to be entering the final year of 402 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 4: his deal. So that offensive linement position, especially at offensive tackle, 403 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 4: that is a money maker position that we talk about too. 404 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 4: So I don't know. I mean, look, that is why 405 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 4: we're not paid the big bucks. I know the question 406 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 4: was asked on Darren Urbans mailbag who we each would 407 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 4: want to have selected, and I'm pretty sure this was 408 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 4: asked before the Kalayist news it was came out. I 409 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 4: still have Mikeel Williams from Georgia as as my guy, 410 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 4: just seeing what he was able to do in the SEC, 411 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: the way he was able to bull rush some of 412 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 4: these offensive linemen coming off the edge, how he wasn't 413 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 4: afraid to have his hand in the dirt. I think 414 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 4: him coming off the edge is somebody that the Cardinals 415 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 4: should heavily consider from a content perspective, though his teammate 416 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 4: Jalen Walker such a better speaker. 417 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: You can never have too much depth in the offensive 418 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: line room, especially when you are trying to develop players. 419 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: And for those who think, well, the Cardinals have drafted 420 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: so many offensive linemen, don't you want to develop the players? Yes, 421 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: but if you feel like there is someone in this 422 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: draft class that is going to make you better. Why 423 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: would you not take that player? You are constantly trying 424 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: to improve your team so you can develop players while 425 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: still bringing in new talent to develop. And if look, 426 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: if hypothetically an offensive lineman from this draft class ends 427 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: up being better than an offensive lineman he drafted from 428 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: a previous year, but you don't not play the better 429 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: player for the sole fact that, oh, this other guy 430 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: was here for No, that's just not how it works. 431 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 4: There have been a lot of mocks, just to switch 432 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 4: on it a little bit, a lot of mocks have 433 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: been projecting the Cardinals to take a cornerback. Cornerback, Yeah, 434 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 4: what are your thoughts on that? Because I in the 435 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: very beginning when Will Johnson was mocked to the Cardinals, 436 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 4: he was a top five pick, and a lot of 437 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 4: mock drafts and they start to slide, and I was saying, Okay, 438 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 4: this guy is a very interesting prospect. Now, John ay 439 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: Barn's another player that's in the mix from Texas. I 440 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 4: just I'm curious to know your perspective, because if you 441 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 4: would have told me back in February when the season ended, 442 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 4: the Cardinals should take a first round pick and take 443 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: a take a cornerback. With that selection, probably would have 444 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 4: said your nuts. Now I'm considering it a little bit more. 445 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 4: I'm still more on the edge defensive tackle route. But 446 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: what are your thinking about it? 447 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: I agree with that, and the reason the thought has 448 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: shifted is because of the free agency additions that have 449 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: been made. If it's a player that is juster at 450 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: your position, someone you think could maybe even come in 451 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: and be a starter at some point as a rookie, 452 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: take him. That is another position room where I don't 453 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: feel like you can have enough depth. This staff likes 454 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: what they saw in Sean Murphy, Bunting, Max Melton, and 455 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: Star Thomas. Those are still young players. With the exception 456 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: of Murphy Bunting, those are young players you're still developing. 457 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: And that position room is Gannon's baby. That's where a 458 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: lot of his experience as a coach is, and we 459 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: know he holds a lot of weight there. I'm okay 460 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: with taking a cornerback at sixteen if it is a 461 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: blue chit player that's going to come in and make 462 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: a difference. I don't want to take a cornerback for 463 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: the sole fact of we really feel like we need 464 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: a cornerback. The Cardinals are not in that position, though 465 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: they are in a very good spot to the point 466 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: where they are not pressed to take a specific position. 467 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: They have aligned themselves very nicely to where as Austin 468 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: Ford has said, they want to go into the draft 469 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: feeling like they could play a game, and they could 470 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: right now. So if it's a top cornerback, I'm okay 471 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: with that. At sixteen, I still think it is so 472 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 1: much more likely that it is going to be an 473 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: offensive lineman or a defensive tackle. 474 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: I agree. 475 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 4: I do think you know the odd ball that has 476 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 4: start to pop up a lot more in the past. 477 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 4: Couple of mock draft trackers on Easycardinals dot com as 478 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 4: Jihad Campbell, the inside linebacker from the University of Alabama, 479 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: over one hundred tackles during his time in Tuscaloosa. This 480 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 4: past season was without a doubt and is without a doubt, 481 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: the best pure off ball linebacker in this class. However, 482 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 4: he is coming off of torn Labram. What did the 483 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 4: Cardinals do with bringing back Kaisier white MANI, Asenfort spoke 484 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 4: with Darren Irman, said he's not shutting the door on 485 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 4: any of those opportunities as of this moment. So do 486 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: the Cardinals go inside linebacker? 487 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 488 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 4: I guess that's the beauty of the mock drafts is 489 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 4: there's so many different opportunities and different avenues that we 490 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 4: might not have ever considered. The number one cornerback though, is, 491 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 4: without a doubt, Travis Hunter. He's going to be He's 492 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: gonna be off the board kind of early his draft. 493 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: That's going to end pretty soon. 494 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: We talk about things that we haven't considered. That's how 495 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: I felt. Mel Kiper's latest mock draft has the Cardinals 496 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: at sixteen, taking wide receiver Matthew Golden out of Texas 497 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: and taking a receiver at sixteen feels like the least 498 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: likely option you have been doing mock draft trackers on 499 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: asycardinals dot com. Given the recent moves, What are you 500 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: seeing from national analysts and how maybe their mock drafts 501 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: are changing for the Cardinals. 502 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 4: Matthew Golden is definitely a player that you know has 503 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 4: been mocked to the Arizona Cardinals. Ryan Wilson from CBS 504 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 4: Sports has mocked Matthew Golden as well at pick sixteen. 505 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 4: I remember and some of the earlier mock draft trackers 506 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 4: people had the Cardinals trading back with the Houston Texans 507 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 4: to draft twenty five to draft Luther Burden from Missoo 508 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: so wide receiver has been linked to the Cardinals. 509 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 3: I do think that these. 510 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 4: National analysts might not necessarily have their finger on the 511 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: pulse of what this Arizona Cardinals team is. I think 512 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: that that people might have been a little bit underwhelmed 513 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 4: by Marvin Harrison Junior's rookie season, even though on paper 514 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 4: it was a solid season. But I think people see 515 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 4: that and they think, Okay, that's really it. It's really 516 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: just Tree McBride and Marvin Harrison Junior, who might not 517 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 4: be what we thought he was. That's why I think 518 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 4: the national experts are thinking. Inside this building, everyone knows 519 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior is a top talent. There's a reason 520 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 4: why he was worth the fourth overall pick. They know 521 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 4: the offense goes through Trade McBride and through James Connor 522 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 4: in the run game. But they also have a lot 523 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 4: of confidence in what Michael Wilson could bring to the table. 524 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 4: The numbers aren't there right now, but Kyler Murray has 525 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: been on the record saying that he loves what Michael 526 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: Wilson brings to the table. So do the Cardinals decide 527 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 4: to venture off into the draft and draft a wide receiver. 528 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 4: If they did draft Matthew Golden with the sixteenth overall pick, 529 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 4: I would be shocked. Yeah, I at that point exactly. 530 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 4: But the analysts might be seeing something that we're not. 531 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: Maybe we're too into the thick of things. But I 532 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 4: really don't I think that's the case. I think it's 533 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 4: the other way around. I think we're very aware of 534 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 4: what's happening here because we saw the chemistry between Kyler 535 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior and his other weapons start 536 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 4: to progress as the season went on. With that being said, 537 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 4: though you want to bring another rookie to the mix, 538 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 4: go back to back seasons with a first round wide receiver, 539 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 4: I don't think that's necessary. 540 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: A rookie wide receiver isn't necessarily going to move the needle. Now, 541 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: something was missing from the Cardinals passing game last season. 542 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: It was not explosive. It ran through the tight end, 543 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: which is not a problem when you've got a player 544 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: of McBride's caliber. The question is do you want the 545 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: passing game to be going through your number one wide 546 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: receiver who was the fourth overall pick in the draft 547 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: last year. Now, Michael Wilson has shown strides of growth 548 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: from year one to year two last year. What is 549 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: still missing, though, What I gather from what we've heard 550 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: from players and the coaching staff is they feel confident 551 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: that that answer is already in that wide receiver's room, 552 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: whether that is speed, whether that is rout running, being 553 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: more aggressive at the point of attack. I don't see 554 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: the Cardinals taking a receiver at sixteen. 555 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, we know Marvin has speed, so if they needed 556 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 4: a downfield threat, you do have Greg Dortch. You do 557 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 4: have Marvin Harrison Junior. Now, these aren't the fastest guys 558 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 4: in their respective classes and at their respective position. However, 559 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 4: you do have that ability to go downfield. Marvin Harrison 560 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 4: Junior's first touchdown was only thirty something yards. However, he 561 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 4: went on a straight fly route and was able to 562 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 4: get his feet down in the back of the end 563 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: zone for the touchdown. They do have that ability. But 564 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 4: when you look at Drew Petsing's offense, and I'm doing 565 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: it right now on True Media, they have a chart 566 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 4: as to where majority of the passes went to. They 567 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 4: all were within ten yards in a lot of cases, 568 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 4: seventy eight point eight percent right to the right side 569 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 4: of the hash mark, seventy nine point five percent all 570 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 4: the way towards the opponent's sideline, all the way on 571 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 4: the right side of the field, and that's within the 572 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 4: first ten yards. Looking down the field, they are forty 573 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 4: percent thirty five percent at going deep thirty plus yards. 574 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 4: So in some of these ways, that's not the Cardinals offense. 575 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: It's not the bread and butter to just chuck it 576 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 4: down the field and hope somebody goes up and makes 577 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 4: the play. 578 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 1: And this front office is coaching staff wants more than 579 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: just speed. They want a receiver who can also block 580 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: and be versatile. A big question mark for me in 581 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: that room is Xavier Weaver going into year two. Didn't 582 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: see a lot of playing time, but we did see 583 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: the speed on display throughout preseason and training camp. Kyler 584 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: Murray was recently speaking to some media outlets and he 585 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: was giving high praise for Marvin Harrison junior for Michael Wilson. 586 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: He was also talking about how much he wants to 587 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: use his legs this season. 588 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 4: It was interesting one thing about Xavier Weaver, cause you 589 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 4: mentioned his name earlier. On in the season. He had 590 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 4: the one game in Green Bay where he was active 591 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 4: and Kyler Murray went deep for him and they weren't 592 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 4: able to connect, and he played a lot of that 593 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 4: game because Marvin left with a concussion or was put 594 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 4: into cuncussion protocol rather. During that game, he was on 595 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: a podcast with Travis Hunter on Travis Hunter's podcast, and 596 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 4: he was talking about how when you are not a 597 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 4: starter and when you are a healthy scratch for a 598 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 4: lot of these games, your opportunities in practice are so limited, 599 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 4: so you have to make the most events some games 600 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 4: or some practice weeks. He felt like he had the 601 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 4: best practice out there and he wasn't called up to 602 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 4: the active roster, but knowing that the Cardinals have that 603 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 4: in the deck of cards, that they have a speed 604 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 4: receiver like Xavier Weaver. He was a player that when 605 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 4: he went undrafted, a lot of teams were in the 606 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 4: mix hoping to acquire him, but many Austin for was 607 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 4: able to get the deal done to bring him into 608 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 4: the mix. To go back to Kyler saying he wants 609 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 4: to run a little bit more. Yeah, come on, kay one, 610 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 4: we got to see the legs moving a little bit. 611 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray spoke to a handful of media outlets and 612 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 4: talked about the progression this past year, and I know 613 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 4: that this all kind of stems from new Cowboys head 614 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 4: coach Brian schau and MEMI are talking about how Culey 615 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 4: and Adams sometimes said Kyler Murray didn't like to run 616 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 4: or chose not to run in some games, and Kyler 617 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 4: kind of disputed out a little bit started to say, hey, 618 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 4: look early on in the season, I like to run 619 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 4: a little bit, and then I tried to also be 620 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 4: a little bit more mindful of my body and my health. 621 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 4: But he does recognize and he said the multiple times 622 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 4: droughout the multiple interviews he did earlier on this week, 623 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 4: he said, my legs are a weapon, and that's something 624 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: that he knows he needs to utilize. The Cardinals aren't 625 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 4: in dire need of that Murray magic run around for 626 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 4: twenty two seconds for a two point conversion type of play. 627 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 4: They're not in need of that anymore. But he pointed 628 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: out certain games where that was useful. The game against 629 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins, how he was able to peel to 630 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 4: the right side of the field and was able to 631 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 4: find Marvin Harrison Junior for a touchdown the games against 632 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 4: the Los Angeles rams Kyler has not done that as 633 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 4: frequently throughout the twenty twenty four season, but he says 634 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: he wants to do more of it. 635 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: Danny the game against forty nine ers, and he called 636 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: his shot from five yards from the line of scrimmage 637 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: and found his way to the end zone on that 638 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: first offensive possession. Murray had five hundred and seventy two 639 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: rushing yards on seventy eight carries, five rushing touchdowns. He 640 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: has made it clear in the past he's okay using 641 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: his legs. He doesn't want it to be hero ball, 642 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: which I understand that is not feasible long term. You 643 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: don't want to rely on that. But I do think 644 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: that we could see more of that. I think that 645 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: this offense could benefit from using more of that. That 646 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 1: is what makes Murray stand out compared to other quarterbacks. 647 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: That's what makes him so hard to defend. And I 648 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: think that there could be some more opportunities for him 649 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: to use his legs, and you'll bring that in to 650 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: the offense a little bit more, of. 651 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 4: Course, And I think that there were you know, in 652 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 4: some games, you know, when you're down, you got to 653 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 4: throw the ball down the field, but you don't necessarily 654 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: want to rely on the running game. But Kyler poses 655 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 4: such a threat that he can get the first downs 656 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 4: even if it's first and ten, second, ten, third and ten. Kyler, 657 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 4: there's Josh Allen, There's Lamar Jackson, potentially Jalen Hurts. Those 658 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 4: are really the three quarterbacks in my opinion that without 659 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 4: a doubt, if I see them running down the field, 660 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 4: I'm for sure under the belief that they're going to 661 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 4: get a first down. Kyler is a dangerous player with 662 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: his legs, and I don't think the ACL injury is 663 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 4: a is a thought of his anymore. But they always 664 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 4: say that that second full year after an ACL injury 665 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 4: is when you truly feel like yourself. I think that 666 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 4: that's going to be the case this coming year with Kyle. 667 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: This will be year two and we'll get to see 668 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: a little bit that soon coming up for OTAs. But 669 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: before we get there, we got to get through the 670 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: draft night one Thursday, April twenty fourth. We're just about 671 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: two weeks away. It's pretty crazy. 672 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: It is flying by. 673 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 4: I remember when we were in our business office and 674 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 4: they put up one hundred days to the draft and 675 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 4: you're like, Okay, this is going to be a long 676 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 4: one hundred days, and then it start to fly. 677 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: By, yeah, blink, and suddenly it's there. Well, who needs 678 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: Craig Rielou. We had a pretty good time without it. 679 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 4: I think this was If we're going to look at 680 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 4: the ratings after this and spoiler, they're already going to 681 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 4: be the best. 682 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 3: So sorry, Craig. 683 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: Now we miss your Craig, but that will do it 684 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: for us. On this episode of Cardinals, Cover two presented 685 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals Special. Thanks 686 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: to our executive producer jim Amaehundro, our associate producer Cody Fincher. 687 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: Who'szach Gershman, I'm Danny Surak. 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