1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: The World's a Pigeon podcast. 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: For deals, buy a Toyota dot com. 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: Hello everyone, and welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Our special live 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: coverage from Patriots training camp. Were day four here at 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: Jilt Stadium, a beautiful day. The crowd is here, the 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: players are here, Paul Pirillo, Evan Lazarre, Mike du So, 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: Tomorrow Brown are here and we're gonna bring you practice 11 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 3: for the next No, I don't know a couple hours 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: or so. Uh so we're excited. It's day four. Tomorrow 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 3: they'll be in pads so well, it'd be interesting to 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: see what they do today to get ready for tomorrow. 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: But uh, like I said, we'll be here for the 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: next couple hours bringing you everything that we see on 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: at practice. After practice, we'll have a special interview with 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: girod Mao, uh just with us with Patriots Unfiltered, So 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: he'll be on the field and we'll be talking to 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: him right after practice. 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: So that's cool kind of seeing. 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, see where he thinks the team's out after four days, 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: you know, and we we say four days, but really. 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: It's beenise him for that. 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm gonna it's it's a lot more than 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: that when you take into consideration the rookie mini camps, 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 3: the ot as, the the mandatory mini camp that they had, 28 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: So you know, there's a certain point where I would 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: expect that he thinks the team should be at and 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: I'll be interested to see what what he says in 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: terms of what his expectations are and have they been 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: met so far? 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 2: So so what are we looking for today? 34 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 5: I wonder if today is to set the table day 35 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 5: they were off yesterday, you know, I wonder if they're 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 5: going to be setting things up for Pats tomorrow and 37 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 5: they be going through some of the things that they're 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 5: going to be running tomorrow at full speed, trying to 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 5: make sure that that everybody knows what they're doing so 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 5: when they get on the field with pads tomorrow it 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 5: can be fully effective. 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 4: That's I think kind of how Bill used to do 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 4: it a little bit. 44 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 6: But it could very possibly change. 45 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 5: It could be, you know, a ramp up of what 46 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 5: we saw a couple of days ago where they're you know, 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 5: starting to. 48 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 4: Have some more competitive periods. 49 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I would imagine even though they have pads 50 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: on tomorrow, it's probably seventy five percent, right, You're not 51 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: going right from shells to pads and expecting guys to 52 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: be hitting at full throw. 53 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 4: I mean, it's like day seventy Fred. They should be ready, 54 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 4: shouldn't they. 55 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know physically, mentally they should be, but 56 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: I don't know about you know, yeah, I worry about that. 57 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 4: You're right, they're right. 58 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: You know, do you do you go right into full 59 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: speed hitting when you haven't done it all summer? 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 5: I don't know, but that but that was kind of 61 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 5: a feature when you guys used to watch back in 62 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 5: Brian College, right like like day one pads will be 63 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 5: like that's exactly what it's going to be. It's going 64 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 5: to be one hundred and ten percent because this is 65 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 5: where you know, we're really gonna set the tone in camp. 66 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: Back back then, we were smoking, you know, cigarettes and airplanes. 67 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: I mean, come on, you know I can remember goal 68 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 4: line on the first day, absolutely live goal line bet 69 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: Teddy Johnson and Ted Johnson, Ye, Paul, Yeah, Mountain goats. 70 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: Clashing Mountain Goats. I mean, I mean the impacts were audible. 71 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 5: Oh, if you're a middle linebacker're going in the first 72 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 5: day of pads I imagine, or a full back for 73 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 5: that matter, you know you're going to be getting some. 74 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, we have a seventy seventy five. 75 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 4: I had a new guy. I was just going to 76 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 4: say that we have a new guy. 77 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: Players are trickling out onto the field. 78 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: Defensive lineman. He's wearing blue. All right, we'll see. Let's 79 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: see who that might be. Well, effort that Andy on 80 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: the on the Twitter. 81 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about oh, i'd say close to eighty degrees 82 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: right now. It's here at Foxboro, n Nice day today, 83 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: sunny day. 84 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: Good day for golf of your sunny day? 85 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 6: Stands full of fans. 86 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, what's that time for individual achievement? 87 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 7: Stands full of fans. I have a fan? 88 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: Is that the fan you gutter? 89 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 8: Is that a fan from Stacey the Patriots PR Department. 90 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 8: They're fans of us, and they got U Spankee that 91 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 8: I did not get that. 92 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: Boy. They're so clever. 93 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 7: Sure, I'm sure they love our coverin. 94 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: I got one hand with pen in, one hand with 95 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 4: with binoculars. I don't got a time I gotta count 96 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 4: for a thing. 97 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 8: Few in the building too, well, I will say the 98 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 8: fans that they got us. You can actually strap. 99 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 5: Around your neck like I've seen like some things that 100 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: they're got now where you almost you strap a thing 101 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 5: onto your belt and it. 102 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: Just blows air up your shirt. 103 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 5: Like there were all these like modern advances and staying cool, 104 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 5: but I always flashed back to those joint practices in Nashville, 105 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 5: which that's the only time I felt like I needed 106 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 5: an auxiliary device to like help stay cold because it 107 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 5: was just it was so like the second we stepped 108 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 5: out of the car at that facility in Tennessee, it 109 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 5: was like I'm just going to be drenched, Like there's 110 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 5: no there's no other way about it. 111 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, Vegas was was bad, but in a different way. Yeah, 112 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 7: it's that dry desert heat. But Tennessee. 113 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: It's no joke. And then we went to Jersey Mike's 114 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: and the lady took forever. 115 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 5: Oh remember how long it took us to go through 116 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 5: and like you you got to cut the meat, lady, 117 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 5: you can't get into conversation. 118 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 4: It's long enough at Jersey Mikes. With the amount of 119 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 4: work that goes into the sandwich. Take a look at 120 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 4: my forehead and count all the beat beats of sweat, 121 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: and then then you can tell me how I'm doing. 122 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: All right back here, a little technical difficulty, but they 123 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: cleared that up. 124 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 6: There's something much better for it. 125 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure what was going on. I do worry, 126 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: you know, with the sun beating down on our equipment, 127 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: if that has anything to do, but I don't think 128 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: that was it. 129 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: So now you've got the handheld fan, uh tomorrow. 130 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 7: Yes, this is actually from manual. Are you from the 131 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 7: south you I know this is actually from I think 132 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 7: my first training camp. You know they handed them out. 133 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, players gets a lot of the handouts, it sure does. 134 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 4: She said that one. She said that one for two years. 135 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: It's not that I you know, I'm looking for a fan, 136 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: but I'm. 137 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 2: Just saying, so we're pret practice here. It's the principal. 138 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 7: I'm your biggest fan of Paul. 139 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 4: Thanks. 140 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: Players still arriving, as they say, so. 141 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: Maybe some contract talk. 142 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 5: I think I think since we last spoke, we've had 143 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 5: some contracts going around there to Tungo Biloa. 144 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, we're going to get to that. 145 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 5: We're going to get to that in a little bit 146 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 5: Evan and I yeah, you're not ready. 147 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm ready whenever you are, all right, So 148 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 4: you're great, all right. As we're waiting for the players 149 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: to arrive and get started and we actually give you some. 150 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 6: Patriots news to talk about. 151 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: There was a sort of a line of thought on 152 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 4: the on my show as Freddy, Yeah, as we were 153 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: driving home from from work on on Friday, in the 154 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: light of Toua's extension. So obviously a big money extension. 155 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 4: It's like fifty two, fifty three, fifty two. Yeah, you know, 156 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 4: so it's a lot of money. I'm not I'm not 157 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: downplaying the amount of money he got. It's a lot. 158 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 6: I think he's like third, the fourth highest paid quarterback. 159 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: And how much of it is guaranteed. 160 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 6: Like one hundred and sixty seven it's a lot of money. 161 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: So the line of thought was that this was a 162 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: great thing for the Patriots because they get this terrible 163 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 4: quarterback now now in the division. I'm like, well, so 164 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: like yesterday they were behind Miami who had two as 165 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: the quarterback under the fifty yeer option. Today he now 166 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 4: makes one hundred and sixty seven million guaranteed, and now 167 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: the Patriots it's a good thing for the Patriots. There's 168 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 4: a lot of different layers to this, not the least 169 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: of which is two has won a lot of football games. 170 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: He's like thirty two and nineteen, Is that right? So 171 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 4: who yes, thirty two and nineteen. 172 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 7: As they Paul, And he's six and zero against the 173 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 7: Patriots exactly. 174 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: But like who said it was a good. 175 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 4: Thing, Jim Murray and Matt McCarthy, I said, my shop, 176 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: But it's not. It wasn't just that, it was a 177 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: lot of people. 178 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 7: I saw a groundswell of it on Patriots Twitter as well. 179 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 7: And to Paul's point, the first point is can you 180 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 7: beat the guy first in a game before we start 181 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 7: saying that, oh, this is great news for the Patriots, 182 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 7: right And the quarterback play that we've watched over the 183 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 7: last five years here since Brady left, they would be 184 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 7: lucky if they had to Attaga Baloa on their football 185 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 7: team as their quarterback right now. And third of all, 186 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 7: just statistically over the last couple of years too, was 187 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 7: one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. You wanted 188 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 7: to use passer rating EPA per drop back, whatever you 189 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 7: want to want to use. 190 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: So I'm not he's been an MVP conversation the last 191 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: two seasons. 192 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 6: Now. 193 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 4: Two years ago, you know, he obviously got hurt and 194 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: that ended that. And last year, like Kevin said, he 195 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 4: was like a top ten quarterback exactly. 196 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 3: But last year it was his first full season correct 197 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: that he played without missing games. 198 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know if it was his 199 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 4: first full I know the year before we got concussions, Yeah. 200 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: But I think it was. But but regardless, he's a 201 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: he's a good quarterback. 202 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 4: He's a good quarter The point, the point I'm trying 203 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 4: to make is I don't know why it wasn't good 204 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: before the contract, but it is good after the contract. 205 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: Nothing has changed in terms of his status, like the 206 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: fact that he's going to be the quarterback of a 207 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 4: team in your division that is thought to be better 208 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 4: than you for the next five years. 209 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 6: Now. I don't understand how that's a good thing for 210 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 6: the Patriots. 211 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: I don't Well, obviously whoever was saying that, I don't 212 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 3: think he's that good. 213 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 4: But he wasn't that good before he signed the contract, 214 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 4: and it wasn't a good thing for the Patriots that 215 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: he was their starting quarterback. Well, now he signs a 216 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 4: contract and it's a good thing for the Patrol. 217 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: Now it's a topic. I don't know. I'm not defending them. 218 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think why now they're saying that. 219 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: But either way, the Miami Dolphins right now are a 220 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: better football team than New England Patriots, you know, and 221 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 3: until Drake May proves, and they're. 222 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 4: In a better situation today than they were heading into 223 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: camp because they no longer have a question market quarterback 224 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: sure like long term. Okay, I don't again, I don't 225 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: really know how that's a bad thing for I mean, 226 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 4: a good thing for the paprioll. 227 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: Unless you don't, unless you feel a tu it can't 228 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: get them to where they want to go, which is 229 00:09:58,679 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: obviously be champion. 230 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 4: But that might be the case. That could that could 231 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: be accurate. Again, I don't know why that's a good 232 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: thing for the Patriots. Yeah, like two was gonna fall 233 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: short in Miami. How is that good for the Patriots? 234 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's it's neither good nor bad. 235 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: It's just you know, I would agree with that. 236 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know. I wasn't listening, so I 237 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 3: don't It was tough, it was, it was, it. 238 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 6: Was a tough Uh. I just think to take. 239 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 7: The biggest thing is I think, yeah, until you are 240 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 7: on that level, like worry about your your own house 241 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 7: a little bit. 242 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a time where we could demean everybody 243 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: else's quarterback because we had the best one, you know, 244 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 3: so no one was as good as ours. 245 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: Uh, those days are over, folks. 246 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 4: I mean, like you look at the contracts that Tua 247 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 4: and Jordan Love signed over the weekend. To me, like, 248 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything wrong with them that that's 249 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 4: that's what it happens. 250 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 2: Well, it is, but it is getting a little bit 251 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: much in. 252 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: You know, the teams are now so quarterback dependent. I 253 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: just wonder if some you know, the next round of CBA, 254 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: or even before you know, as they start talking about 255 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: the eighteenth game and they have to amend the current CBA, 256 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 3: they might stiffen up the salary cap. You know, right 257 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 3: now it's a very loose salary cap. There's a lot 258 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: of loopholes, there's a lot of ways to get around it. 259 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: I wonder if the next step from the owners is 260 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 3: to make that a little bit more hard a cap. 261 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, but I can't imagine 262 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: the owners are you know, doing cartwheels about the amount 263 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: of money they have to pay one person on their team. 264 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 8: But I will say that one person can really make 265 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 8: or break your team. You've seen how much dependable quarterback 266 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 8: play does for a team, and you see how much 267 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 8: not having a pulse on your your in your quarterback 268 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 8: room does for your team. So I think you know, 269 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 8: regardless of how the salary cap situation works out, I 270 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 8: think the quarterback is the most important person. 271 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 7: On the team. 272 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 4: You're right. 273 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: But the second part of what you just said tomorrow 274 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: make or break. Yeah, he can also break. And now 275 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: you've got all that money that you. 276 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 6: Paid him, you know, But that's not the break part. 277 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 4: The break part is he can't play right, not the 278 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 4: money because the money is fixed. The cap is the cap. Yeah, 279 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 4: I mean, that's not going to go away. They're not 280 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 4: going to do away with the cap. 281 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: No, I didn't say they would do. What I'm saying is. 282 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: Making it a hard cap makes it harder. 283 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: Well, it gives them a reason, a valid reason, Paul, 284 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: not to pay as much to one price. 285 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 4: So it makes it harder to be good if you 286 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: don't give the quarterback that money. 287 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: Well, Paul, that's not what they're worried about he's out, 288 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: they're worried about the money. 289 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean out they worried about trying to 290 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 4: win games. Would I like to think that most of 291 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: the help in sports are trying to win games. I 292 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 4: know that's not one hundred percent. That's naive on my part. Yeah, 293 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 4: I know some guys don't care. 294 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: You would hope that's all they care about. But it's 295 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: cash out of pocket. You know, we all know the 296 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: difference is between what the cap UH number is in 297 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: cash spent, which is usually higher than yeah, and that 298 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: you know, owners that comes out of the owner's pocket 299 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: have to figure out a way to finance that if 300 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: they don't have the ready cash. 301 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 4: I'm with you, Fred, So you know, I'm just I'm 302 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 4: just I'm with you. I'm totally with you everything you 303 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 4: just said. 304 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 7: I just think the biggest thing to me is that 305 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 7: clearly a lot of people think that that to a stinks. 306 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 4: Is that Kendrick Bourne, Yeah, but he's yeah, he's not. 307 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 5: STEP's Gibson also had his helmet with him. 308 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 6: I saw that. 309 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 7: With two people obviously think he stakes well, he stinks well, 310 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 7: not stinks well. 311 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 4: Like anybody who thinks it's a good thing for the 312 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: Patriots that he signed a contract. 313 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 6: Obviously thinks he. 314 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 7: Isn't whatever you want to call it, like isn't good enough, right, 315 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 7: isn't at that level. 316 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 4: And I would just say that. 317 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 7: The Patriots would be pretty lucky if Drake May ends 318 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 7: up being as good as Tua like that. 319 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 6: Obviously a different kind of player, but I agree with. 320 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 7: That, right just in terms of production, production and that 321 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 7: it just it just goes to show, like there's so 322 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 7: many quarterbacks that end up just actually like Zach Wilson, 323 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 7: like actually stinks, and our barometer is still so high. 324 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 7: I feel like from from Brady that we we still 325 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 7: hold everybody at that at that regard and like whoever 326 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 7: it's Drake May, if it's four years from now, it's 327 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 7: the next guy, no one is going to be up 328 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 7: on that pedestal. 329 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 4: So see, that's something I would say, like you just 330 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 4: threw Zach Wilson out there. Yeah, if the Jets decided, 331 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 4: you know what, he's going to turn the corner and 332 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: they gave him a contract that was going to lock 333 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: him up. I'm not talking about a now you're I'm 334 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: not talking about a fifty million per year contract, but 335 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 4: a contract that was going to make him their starting 336 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: quarterback next year, right right, Yes, Now that helps you 337 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 4: clearly is. 338 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 7: At bagging the two a contract and saying that's a 339 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 7: that's a good thing for the Patriots a bad thing 340 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 7: for Miami. You're probably gonna go the rest of your 341 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 7: lifetime never seeing a quarterback that you think is good 342 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 7: for the Patriots because it's never their quarterback for the 343 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 7: Patriots is never going to be. 344 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 4: It was the same kind of stuff when Detroit re 345 00:14:59,160 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: upped Golf. 346 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 6: Right, Jared Goff is pretty good. 347 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: He's not Brady, he's not Mahomes, but he's pretty good. 348 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 4: And that's what those guys cost. 349 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: Right now, You've got to get used to the number 350 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: is that's one of the things. I think people aren't 351 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: used to that number, fifty million plus a year for 352 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: a player, but that's the number these days. I mean, 353 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: what's Dak Prescott going to get. You know, he's the 354 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: next best quarterback that has a contract coming. 355 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: It's it's gonna be ludicrous. 356 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 6: He'll be in that neighborhood. 357 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: I think he's going to demand to be higher. 358 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 6: He probably won't get up from Dallas. 359 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 5: Then, yeah, Paul, you should I thought you made a 360 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 5: good point though about Jordan Love, you know, sitting and 361 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 5: just to sample size with him. You know, it's just 362 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 5: a good it's a good comp fir. When we talk 363 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 5: about Drake May, I mean, I'll let you make the point. 364 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 5: But we spend so much time. But when should Drake 365 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 5: May play? I mean we're seeing it with Jordan Love. 366 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 5: They had to give him that contract, not a huge samples. 367 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 368 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: Now, Jordan Love might have a higher ceiling than Tua, 369 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 4: might be more he's you know, as bigger, It might 370 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: be more physically gifted than toa so he could turn 371 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 4: out to be a better player. I would feel better 372 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: with those contracts based on what I know about Tua 373 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: than what I know about Jordan Love. 374 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more of a leap of faith for Love 375 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: right now. 376 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: Again, I think Jordan Love is going to be a 377 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 4: good player. I don't think that's a bad contract at all. 378 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, if I had to, based on 379 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: the evidence that I have, I'd feel better about Sure 380 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: Miami than Green Bay because it's really only one season 381 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 4: for Love and he really didn't play all that well 382 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: until about halfway through, and then he was awesome, you know, 383 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 4: for the stretch driving in the playoffs, he played really well, 384 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: and I think that's where he's going. I think he, 385 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 4: you know, kind of clicked and he's on the rise. 386 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: So I'm not criticizing Green Bay for the for the 387 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 4: deal at all, but that's tough. You sit him for 388 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 4: three years and then you don't get a whole lot 389 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 4: of you know, data to go off of when you 390 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 4: have to give these guys fifty plus million a year. 391 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 7: So has just announced that Josiah Brunson is the new 392 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 7: seventy five. 393 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 4: Okay, Josiah Brunson. 394 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 2: And then where see what's his background? 395 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 4: What's his forting? 396 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 7: Do you loading the pin hand sized? So he was 397 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 7: a UFL player, played it in the UFL, another spring league. 398 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: So do you think the powers that be in the 399 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: NFL like the fact that. 400 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: Your team is make or break dependent on one guy, 401 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: your quarterback? 402 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: Do you think they like that that. 403 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 4: The quarterback is obviously too important? They probably don't like that, right, 404 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 4: So I don't think it has as much to do 405 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: with money as it does with the team though. 406 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: That's all okay, So thinking ahead five to ten years, 407 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: do you think they would ever do anything to alleviate 408 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: that too? You know, it's like maybe you know, right now, 409 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: all the all the rules are favoring the offense. 410 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: Do they reverse that a little bit give the defense 411 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: a little bit of an edge? 412 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 4: I just I don't. I mean, it's a good question. 413 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 5: I just I struggle to see how you can reduce 414 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 5: the value of a quarterback in football, and you know 415 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 5: especially I mean, I guess Fred you made a good 416 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 5: point about do you tip a little bit of the 417 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 5: balance back to the defense. I have a hard time 418 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 5: seeing that happen. I just think with fantasy football and 419 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 5: the gambling that goes on now, you know, it's just 420 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 5: it's hard for them for me to see them taking strides. 421 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 4: But a lot of it at Dampston Scoring Down. 422 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 2: Hey Patriots fans, if you want to see Toyota's best offers, 423 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: including those not seen on TV, go to buy at 424 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: toyota dot com. It's Toyota's official website for deals from 425 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: the official vehicle of the New England Patriot's Toyota. Let's 426 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 2: go to practice. 427 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 5: I feel like the clouds are literally moving right over 428 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 5: the field right now, and we're about to have like 429 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 5: the rest of the day is about to be cloudy. 430 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 4: Oh oh, is that you, I mean, look at it. 431 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 4: Did you check out Don Kent's forecast this morning? Oh? 432 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: Don Ken, I was unaware of his forehead. One's that 433 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: Don kents ntev I love, I love feeling too young? 434 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 5: But does it does seem just like the cloud cover 435 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 5: is literally just coming right over a welcome relief it is. 436 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 4: I I'm all for it. 437 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 3: I'm also all for bud Light because it's easy to drink, 438 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 3: easy to enjoy. Bud Light is the official beer sponsor 439 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: of the New England Patriots. 440 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 4: Do you guys watch any of the Olympics there we 441 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: got going here. I did a. 442 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: Little bit, a little bit. I saw France beat Fiji. Yeah, 443 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: seven's rugby, big upset. 444 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: I watched that's the first ever loss for Fiji. 445 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 446 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 4: In the Olympics, in the Olympic Rocks. 447 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: And I watched a little of Nadal and Alcahaz together, right. 448 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 7: I watched a little of Greece Canada and basketball versus 449 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 7: s g A was fun. 450 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 3: So now, Paul, I don't know if you know this 451 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: because you're mister red zone, but for the Olympics, they 452 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 3: they do the gold zone and. 453 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 6: If you're Evan was telling me all about it. He 454 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 6: got handsome. 455 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: I'm sure torturing it, just like he doesn't on a 456 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: weekly basis. 457 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 7: It's not just Scott Hansen. They actually have a rotation 458 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 7: because it's it's like ten hours of coverage. So Andrew Ceciliano, 459 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 7: who did it for Direct TV for years their red 460 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 7: Zone channel, is also. 461 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 6: You have no idea what was going on in games. Either. 462 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: It was tough, it was it was bad too. 463 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they were tossing to like fencing. 464 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: When I was watching it, I meant the actual. 465 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 3: But to be fair, they toss it defencing when something 466 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: you know it's about to be a deciding. 467 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 7: Yes, it was the gold medal, like it. 468 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to sit there and watch 469 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 3: an hour of fencing. Just give me the good part. 470 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 4: Yeah right. 471 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 7: The one the one nippick I had about it was 472 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 7: that they didn't stay on an event for very long. 473 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 7: So if it was like a team event or something 474 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 7: like that, you're only getting right, you know, two minutes 475 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 7: of Greece Canada and then all of a sudden they're 476 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 7: throwing to something else. And so I at that point I. 477 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: Probed, did you notice that while you're doing that? And 478 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: the bottom right you can click and watch the whole 479 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: game if you want. 480 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 7: So that's I ended up doing that at basketball game 481 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 7: because I just wanted to watch No, I think the game. 482 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: This is groundbreaking coverage of the Olympics, and you know, 483 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 3: obviously NBC is using Peacock to cover it all. 484 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: So it's it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. 485 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 7: It is cool because they literally have every great idea 486 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 7: for the Olympics. Yeah, they literally have everything. 487 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 488 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 7: Because of Peacock, they have the ability to show you 489 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 7: pretty much any event that's going on. You could watched 490 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 7: jiu jitsu yesterday if you wanted to watch that, if. 491 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 4: You well, that's tips thing, all right, So Freddy real quick, 492 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 4: just you know, they did send the release out for Josiah. 493 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: It's Bronson. He's twenty seven and he played last year. 494 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: He played in the in the spring with the Memphis 495 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 4: show Boats. Oh sure, sure, so he had They've got 496 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 4: a size on twelve tackles in ten games with a 497 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 4: one and a half sacks, six three two ninety five. 498 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 4: He spent some time in the NFL with New Orleans, Cleveland, Dallas, 499 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 4: and Miami. Originally a rookie free agent for New Orleans 500 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 4: in twenty one, out of Washington and I'm sorry, what 501 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 4: positions defensive tackle? 502 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so sometimes you know, it's very early in the summer, 503 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: but sometimes they do that because somebody is having some 504 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: injury issues more. 505 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 5: I know, I don't like seeing not seeing barbar out here. 506 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 5: It's it could be something minor. And then somebody said 507 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 5: he was sick the first day, but like you had 508 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 5: a day off yesterday. 509 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: I don't know, Radar is up on him. 510 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: I always get a little worried when they bring guys in. 511 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: Who's hurt, Who's hurt? 512 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's He's the only one kind of missing from 513 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: that group, which you. 514 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 5: Know is admittedly kind of thin to begin with, at 515 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 5: least with guys who have a lot of experience in 516 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 5: the NFL. 517 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 8: I was going to say, I think illness is going 518 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 8: around right now. I mean Lamar Jackson was sick as well. 519 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people were. They were they together? 520 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 8: No, But I mean I'm just saying that a lot 521 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 8: of people are sick right now. 522 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 4: It's going around. 523 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 7: Something is going around. Not sure what it is, but. 524 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, COVID COVID, Drake May, we're working with a little 525 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: walk past right now. 526 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, is this a cameras off? Portion of the of 527 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: the pack. 528 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think we're cameras are eleven twenty five. 529 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 3: I think we'll have cameras back on. 530 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 5: So maybe uh could mean nothing just because they're near 531 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 5: the red zone. But I do wonder maybe we get 532 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 5: a little red zone today. That could be seven on 533 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 5: seven one, yeah. 534 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 8: Or Mike, it could be like you mentioned earlier, they're 535 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 8: they're working on some things they put on the pads. 536 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just but it's all screen passes. Not really, 537 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 5: you're not really running screens on the four yard line. 538 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: I watch. I don't think so maybe that's just how 539 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 4: they're divided up right now. 540 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, don't have eyes on Antonio Gibson. 541 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 5: No did he he brought it. It's like steps he 542 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 5: got down again. I just walking down scanning. 543 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 7: But yeah, Bourne was not gonna do anything. But uh, 544 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 7: Antonio Gibson, I have not seen. But he did have 545 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 7: a helmet, had a helmet when he I got him. 546 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 7: I got him. So yeah, Antonio Gibbs, it looks like 547 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 7: he was ready to go. We are ago on Antonio Gibson. 548 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 7: Now that he's actually participating in drills, he has to 549 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 7: off NFI, so he's he's good to go. It looks 550 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 7: like so that's good news. 551 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 4: That's a good little yeah, good little bump. What about 552 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 4: taki taki? Guys, realize we're ten days away from the 553 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: first preseason. 554 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 7: That's right around the corner. 555 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 4: We only got nine more trade practices. It's going by quick. 556 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So this will be our last live coverage from 557 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 3: practice except for when the Eagles come and we have 558 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: the joint practice. We'll come back up here on our 559 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: perch and we'll cover that joint practice live. This week, 560 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 3: we go back to our normal Tuesday Thursday schedule for 561 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: Patriots Unfiltered. We'll start it at one thirty every day 562 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 3: as long as you know, because practice at eleven, so 563 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: we'll we'll go live with Patriots Unfiltered on Tuesdays and 564 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 3: Thursdays at one thirty unless they changed the practice times, 565 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: which I don't think they will. 566 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: But although Gerard Meo said yesterday, you know, he wants 567 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 2: to kind of keep. 568 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 3: Things fluid and and see how things are going. But 569 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 3: I think they're going to stick to this eleven o'clock time, 570 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: So one thirty Tuesdays and Thursdays going forward with Patriots Unfiltered. 571 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's probably a pretty safe bet yep, yeah. 572 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 7: Just because I have to shamelessly plug Catch twenty two 573 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 7: will be after unfiltered on Thursdays. 574 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: You don't have to have any shame that actually just 575 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 4: do it. 576 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, for one, thirty to three thirty will probably be 577 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 7: like four to six ish Catch twenty two. 578 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: There's no shame in that at all. 579 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 4: No shame, Nope, you should be proud of it. 580 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 5: Well he did say it was a shameless but oh right, 581 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 5: I just like, yeah, no shame, right right right, completely devoid. 582 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 7: While they're doing the positional drill stuff. Can we circle 583 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 7: back to the quarterbacks thing real quick? Because you know 584 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 7: the importance of the quarterback. I do think you have 585 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 7: examples in San Francisco in Detroit of two teams that 586 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 7: came about as close as you possibly could last year 587 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 7: without having the superstar quarterback. 588 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: So it's possible. It's possible. 589 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 7: You have to have an absolutely loaded roster in every 590 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 7: other facet around the quarterback. And you know, maybe Goff 591 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 7: and Prettier are better than we give them credit for, 592 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 7: or I give them credit for, certainly in Purdy's. 593 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: Case, pretty for sure. But you think GoF is okay? 594 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, GoF is okay when he's running play action. Yeah, 595 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 7: but yeah, no doubt, but it is possible. But those 596 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 7: two teams drafted at the top of the draft for 597 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 7: many years and hit on a lot of draft picks, 598 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 7: you know, and then that's how they were able to 599 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 7: build that up. And that wasn't overnight for either one 600 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 7: of those teams. But it is possible to maybe not 601 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 7: get to the top where Malmes is, but you can 602 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 7: definitely get shoot a Super Bowl championship game. And you know, 603 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 7: we don't know what Jalen Hurts is going to be either, 604 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 7: and the Eagles were just there two years ago too, 605 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 7: so it's possible. 606 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: It's funny you mentioned him. I saw some stuff that 607 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 4: they were doing on on ESPN and they had South 608 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 4: Pale at at Philadelphia, and I think that there is 609 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: really such a huge unknown with Jalen Hurts. Yeah, like 610 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 4: is he the guy that played two years ago or 611 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 4: did they kind of figure him out a little bit 612 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: and maybe they don't want him to run anymore. Evan 613 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: always calls it the superpower. Yeah, you know, without that, 614 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 4: maybe he's just sort of average because he wasn't really 615 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 4: great last year from start to finish. I mean, they 616 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: still make a great but he wasn't playing great. 617 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 7: I also feel like. 618 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 8: The locker room was lost at some point because you 619 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 8: start off your season went eight and one, and then 620 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 8: the way they ended the season, it just did something 621 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 8: seemed awesome. 622 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 4: Was not happy. 623 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, they The thing with Jalen Hurts at the Eagles too, 624 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 7: is just listening to other people that watched their film 625 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 7: a lot closer than I do. Their their playbook on 626 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 7: offense got stale really quickly when Stichen left for Indianapolis 627 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 7: and they were running, you know a lot. Ski was 628 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 7: weekly killing them for running like the same five plays 629 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 7: all the time. Now, I don't know if that's just 630 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 7: the lack of creativity on their coaching staff or if 631 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 7: they don't feel like Jalen Hurts can handle more than 632 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 7: what they're running. Two years ago, that stuff was all 633 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 7: new and fresh and took the league by storm. And 634 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 7: then the league adjusts and they didn't do a great 635 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 7: job from a schematic standpoint of adjusting to the adjustment. 636 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 7: So maybe they have another thing up their sleeve. But 637 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 7: when you look at their offense, Stichen might have been 638 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 7: the mad scientists behind the scenes. And now he's in 639 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 7: Indianapolis and the Colts were a good offense last year 640 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 7: with him. Given their situation, I would say they're pretty 641 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 7: solid offensively with Gardner Minshew, so he might be a 642 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 7: really good coach. 643 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: Going back to the Tour conversation, Kelly writes in the 644 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: Dolphins giving two of that contract this year doesn't matter 645 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: at all. People keep saying their big three take up 646 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: forty percent of the cap, but that is this year's 647 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: cap and current cap is irrelevant because it's July and 648 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: the Dolphins won't lose money picking their roster unless they 649 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: choose to do so. Next year, the cap goes up 650 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: again and it will be thirty percent of the cap, 651 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: which isn't bad at all. 652 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not really as much fixated on the actual 653 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: numbers as I am, just this notion that locking up 654 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 4: a quarterback who has had success for you somehow helps 655 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 4: the opponents. 656 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I'm you know what I mean? 657 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 4: Like to me, it's not about like I think, even 658 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 4: like the the most staunch defender of like how important 659 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 4: the cap is would admit given a quarterback a huge 660 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 4: salary nowadays is not a prohibitive of success. So I 661 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 4: don't really understand how you can. 662 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 5: Come up with that to me, it's just it's a 663 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 5: loser mentality to focus on the cap is what's going 664 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 5: to save the Patriots and get them back. 665 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 6: In the conress. 666 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 4: And they weren't really even talking about the cap. They're 667 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 4: just like, well two is there, so don't worry about 668 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 4: Miami anymore. 669 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 5: Well there's any time you're talking about money and oh 670 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 5: too many guys, they're getting too much and it's gonna 671 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 5: you know, like it's just this team needs talent, and 672 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 5: then you know, worry about yourself, like Evan said, and 673 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 5: I just I think part of it too when we 674 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 5: talked about it yesterday with with with Drake May of 675 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 5: of kind of the great unknown of how he is 676 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 5: in the clutch, and like that's that's the ultimate kind 677 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 5: of Trump card, is if you have a quarterback like 678 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady that you're never out of it. 679 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 4: You're never out of it. 680 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 5: And if your team was within striking distance, you're down 681 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 5: by ten points in the fourth quarter like the other 682 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 5: team is sweating. 683 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 6: And how many. 684 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 5: Quarterbacks do you really truly feel like that way about? 685 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 5: Like I think there's a handful, but that's I think 686 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 5: what makes these guys truly truly special is that ability 687 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 5: in the clutch, And that's what I think that's why 688 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 5: Mahomes has those those those super bowls. I mean, it's, 689 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 5: you know, regardless of the pieces beyond beyond be around 690 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 5: him and you know, supporting him, he's able to just 691 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 5: make it work. And that's you know, how Brady was too, 692 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 5: And that's I think the ultimate hope is that you 693 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 5: feel fine paying a guy these huge contracts if you 694 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 5: truly believe that he's one of those guys that we're 695 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 5: never we're never going to be out it with this guy. 696 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 8: You know. 697 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 5: I don't know if I feel that way yet with 698 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 5: two or you know, with Jordan Love, but that to 699 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 5: me is like the pinnacle of quarterback when you believe 700 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 5: truly that you're never out of a game because that 701 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 5: guy is just so good. Even if he's having a 702 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 5: down game, you know he's going to put a drive 703 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 5: together at some point. 704 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: So just one observation, I was watching a little bit 705 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 4: of a walk through before they broke into position drills, 706 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 4: and the offensive line was the same one we saw 707 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 4: on Friday. Caden Wallace at left tackle, chooks a corps 708 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 4: for a right tackle. The interior three have been the 709 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 4: same all four days. So maybe this is a yeah, 710 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 4: I a step that they might want to get a 711 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 4: little bit longer off. A look at the rookie Wallace 712 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 4: at left tackle. 713 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: If I had to make a bet, I'd say that 714 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: that's the five. 715 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, what do you think is the best 716 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 5: for the team, Like, I mean just in terms of contracts, 717 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 5: young guys, old guys. 718 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 4: You know where's the guys? What is the best guys? 719 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 5: But yeah, well I know that, but but what do 720 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 5: you like? Is it best for this team? If Caden 721 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 5: Wallace is your left tackle? 722 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 4: The shaw and they kind of yes, is he the 723 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 4: best left tackle? That would be the best, That would 724 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 4: be the best for the team. If he was the best, 725 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: I would rather him play right tackle. I think they're 726 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 4: close to what I would. 727 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: Rather you So, what have you seen when he plays 728 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: left tackle? 729 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 7: Well, he's never played left. 730 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so why are you saying that I'd rather see 731 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: him play right. 732 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 7: Because I would rather Chookes be a stopgap for a 733 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 7: year at left tackle. 734 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 3: No, I'd rather Kayden Wallace to establish himself at left 735 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: tackle and surprise everyone say, wow, this guy can play 736 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 3: left tackle. 737 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: The only reason he didn't do it? 738 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 4: You guys are arguing two different things. Yeah, and you're 739 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 4: both right. You were saying is right, But I don't 740 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 4: think that's what Evan's talking. 741 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 7: I would rather Kayden Wallace started at right tackle and 742 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 7: that way there when you go into the draft next 743 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 7: year and Will Campbell staring right at you from LSU, 744 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 7: all you're doing is dropping the left tackle in and 745 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 7: the rather other four guys have played a whole season 746 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 7: together in the same configuration. So when you go into 747 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 7: twenty twenty five and you would have from left to 748 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 7: right the rookie City David Andrews, Mike On went who 749 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 7: Caden Wallace and like that, you build up the continuity 750 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 7: that way. And if these two young tackles that are 751 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 7: in college right now, Will Campbell and Calvin Banks who 752 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 7: plays for Texas, if those two guys are as good 753 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 7: as everybody thinks they're gonna be, then next year you 754 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 7: would have a really, really solid But to get this. 755 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: Guy, you're gonna have to use a high draft pick 756 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: Will Campbell, Right. 757 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think that that's gonna be difficult. 758 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: I would, I would, but I would rather have Caden 759 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: Wallace established himself with left tackle, whether a corps force 760 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: here next year or not. I don't know, but I'd 761 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: rather have to replace a right tackle, not have to 762 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: use a high first round pick on it, and get 763 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 3: that WR one or the best defensive player on the pool. 764 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 4: That's what you're like saying, Like you hold Wallace is like, 765 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 4: I hope he's the guy a really solid starting caliber 766 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 4: left tackle, like I think, like right, yeah, but again, 767 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 4: he played left tackle like I think Evan's looking at 768 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 4: It's like, that's probably not going. 769 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 6: To be the case. 770 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 4: A lot of like really good college left tackles play 771 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 4: right tackle as rookies. Yeah, you're asking this guy to 772 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 4: do the opposite. You're asking him to do the hotter 773 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 4: thing that he's never done. I'm not asking they are, no, 774 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 4: but that's like yeah, but I also do I'm hoping 775 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 4: if that Yeah, Like that's why I said, Look, what 776 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 4: you were saying is right, Like that would be awesome. 777 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 4: Now I don't even have to take a tackle next year. 778 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 4: But that's Josh Allen. I'm trying. 779 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 7: I just feel like they Candon Wallace has a better 780 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 7: chance of being a starting caliber right tackle. Then he 781 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 7: does a left tackle and chooks the corps four, holds 782 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 7: it down for a year you get into this transition period. 783 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 2: A CORPS four holds down left tackle, right. 784 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, and then next year you're at the top of 785 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 7: the draft picking the tackle and if you just look 786 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 7: at how the board is going to shape up, and granted, 787 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 7: things can change in the fall, but the expect is 788 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 7: that Will Campbell and Calvin Banks are going to be 789 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 7: two of the top prospects in the entire. 790 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 3: Draft, not just that tack Listen, I've been preaching that 791 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 3: we need to have patience with this offense because it's 792 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 3: starting from scratch, and obviously we're talking about Drake may. 793 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 4: You're right about that. 794 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 3: I'd be willing to have patience. See what Caden Wallace 795 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 3: could do what left tackle for three, four five games 796 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: this year. If it's not working out, okay, then we 797 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: make the switch. And I understand that you know you 798 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 3: want the continuity, but we need to be patient with 799 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 3: all aspects of the offense this year. 800 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 4: Bright. 801 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 8: I like what you just said about preaching patients, because 802 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 8: I think that's exactly what Elliot Wolf and Drod Mayo 803 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 8: have been saying in terms of like dropped and developed, 804 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 8: and maybe they look at Kaden Wallace and they're like Okay, 805 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 8: we drafted this guy, now let's start him, and he's 806 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 8: going to develop all season long. It may not be 807 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 8: pretty all season long, but at least like maybe a 808 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 8: year of him starting at left tackle could mean a 809 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 8: lot of production for the future. 810 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. 811 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 5: For me, I hear what Evan's saying, though, there's like 812 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 5: just a certain security and saying, Kaden Wallace played right tackle, 813 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 5: He's gonna play right tackle on the pros. We feel 814 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 5: good about him playing right tackle, and we can just 815 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 5: focus on the left side, you know, next year rather 816 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 5: than right. Well, Katon Wallas did a pretty good job 817 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 5: on the left side. Now we're gonna flip him back 818 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 5: over to the right side then next year, Yeah, he does. 819 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: It's more at a certain dey. I'm saying, do it 820 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 2: during the season. 821 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 7: That's my concern is that it's a lot of moving 822 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 7: parts and Caden Wallace has never played left tackle before, 823 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 7: so you're asking him to climb a mountain and just 824 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 7: doing that in itself no offense to chooks the corps for. 825 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 7: But if he's kind of got to fall on that 826 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 7: sword for a year and play the left side, then 827 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 7: it's kind of like Jacoby Bris said at quarterback right. 828 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 3: It's like, say, Evan is you know, you say it's 829 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 3: like climbing him mountain. For some people it is, maybe 830 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 3: for him it won't be. 831 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, and i'd like to see. 832 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 7: I just know that there's a lot of people that 833 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 7: not only didn't think that Caden Wallace was a left tackle, 834 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 7: they didn't think Kaden Wallace was a tackle. Like there's 835 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 7: a lot of people that thought that he's projected best 836 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 7: inside at guard. So now you're asking him to play 837 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 7: the left side. It's just a lot and I would 838 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 7: just much rather I worry for him too in his development, 839 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 7: Like if you throw him in that left tackle and 840 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 7: it's just he's taking on water, Like, what's the point 841 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 7: in that in his development? Like he now all of 842 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 7: a sudden he's going to be derailed and you just 843 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 7: blew a top one hundred pick. 844 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 2: What's the next time we get to talk to Scott Peters? 845 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, probably soon, But don't you think, like, especially when 846 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 8: you look at a guy like City Sow and how 847 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 8: he was kind of thrown into the fire, that now 848 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 8: he's better for it. 849 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 7: Because he was he got Yeah, absolutely, but he was 850 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 7: playing his natural position. 851 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I so so they actually tried to do that 852 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 4: with him and it was a disaster. Yeah, they tried 853 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 4: to do some tackle stuff with him last year, to 854 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 4: Evan's point, Yeah, and then they moved him back inside 855 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 4: where he was sort of had more experience. I have 856 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 4: a this. 857 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 7: Isn't you know. When I've had conversations with Dante Scarnekia, 858 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 7: he always talks about continuity being like his big thing, right. 859 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 7: He wanted if it was up to him, they would 860 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 7: start training camp day one with their starting five. And 861 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 7: obviously injuries and all that stuff make it impossible, but 862 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 7: they would go through the whole year with the same 863 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 7: five guys to build up continuity, even if that isn't 864 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 7: necessarily what we think is the best five on paper, 865 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 7: that is what they would want to do. And I 866 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 7: just feel like the last couple of years along the 867 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 7: offensive line, and granted, injuries has a big part of it, 868 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 7: but they're just constantly shuffling. You know, there's constantly guys 869 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 7: in and now there's constantly you know, different configurations and 870 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 7: things like that, and I would just like to see 871 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 7: it settle down a little bit in. 872 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: That wallace on your screens right now, if you're interested. 873 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 8: I mean I think that started with Bill not managing 874 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 8: this roster appropriately. I mean Mac Jones after his rookie year, 875 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 8: like how did you let those two guys just. 876 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 7: Walk out the door? 877 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 2: It started with Joe Toney. 878 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, even going farther back, but even like Mac Jones, like, 879 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 8: why couldn't you just sign those guys and keep those 880 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 8: guys instead of letting them. 881 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 7: Walk out the door? I mean, his year is the best, 882 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 7: the last time the line was actually solid, Yeah, exactly, 883 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 7: and you had the chance to keep those guys and 884 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 7: you let them walk. 885 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 3: And I know we're talking about the two most important 886 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 3: offensive line positions, tackle, but I do feel some confidence 887 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 3: that interior seems to be a little bit settled now. 888 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 3: The problem, though, is David Andrews didn't get it any younger. 889 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 3: At some point, you're going to need a new center, 890 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,959 Speaker 3: and it's probably sooner than later. 891 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, that's a good point. But I am feeling 892 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 7: more confident about what they did in the interior because 893 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 7: on when he was gonna most likely play guard, which 894 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 7: is where I feel like he's at his best, and. 895 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 3: Well, he's your Joe Toney. He can he can in 896 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 3: a pinch, he can play tackle. 897 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's gonna that interior three should be solid, 898 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 7: and it's it's manageable if you have one week link 899 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 7: on the offensive line and if that, if that interior 900 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 7: is solid for you all year long, then you can 901 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 7: build around that. Then that's something that you can work 902 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 7: off of. So it's not that it's a complete disaster 903 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 7: yet or anything like that. I just I wonder why 904 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 7: they would want. Essentially, what I view it as is 905 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 7: like you're playing a rookie at a position. Yeah, with 906 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 7: Caden Wallace a left tackle, I'd rather play the veteran 907 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 7: out a position in Chukes a korps for who isn't 908 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 7: necessarily a part of the long term plan anyway. It's 909 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 7: it's it's similar to the situation at quarterback, like Jacoby 910 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 7: Brissett might have to go out there and take some 911 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 7: licks so that Drake May doesn't have to. And that's 912 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 7: kind of the what. 913 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: Do you think will know by like, Okay, that's. 914 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 7: The five I think the joint practices. 915 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 4: I know. 916 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 8: I keep saying that about even with Drake May, I 917 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 8: feel like that's the moment where like if he's going 918 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 8: to be competitive and take the spot over, it's going 919 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 8: to be that moment. 920 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 7: I'm not saying the start, I. 921 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 4: Was thinking the same thing. 922 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 3: But I also want to use that joint practice to 923 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 3: see some things because now I'm going against the team 924 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 3: that's really trying, you know, not to say that they're 925 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 3: not in practice, but you know what I mean, yep. 926 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 3: And and so i'd like to experiment a little in 927 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 3: that situation too. So I'm thinking maybe it won't be 928 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 3: until third preseason game, you know, I. 929 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 7: Would hope they would know that I'm with you to Mary, 930 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 7: like that's that to me is too late, Like now 931 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 7: I feel like you're in trouble. But I just this 932 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 7: line is already a big question mark for a lot 933 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 7: of us, I think, just from a talent standpoint, a 934 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 7: personnel standpoint, and we still don't really know what the 935 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 7: coaching is going to bring either. So I would just 936 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 7: rather everybody just play where they belong, you know, and 937 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 7: that way there you at least are building off of 938 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 7: that from square one, and eventually you have to to 939 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 7: solidify something here and tomorrow they're gonna put the bads on, 940 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 7: and I'd like to see it happen as soon as tomorrow. 941 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 7: Where we're just we're committed, we're rolling with these five. 942 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 5: One other thing I think, and that's hard to project, 943 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 5: is that if a CORP four plays left tackle this 944 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 5: year and he plays, okay, he's on a one year deal, 945 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 5: he's gonna get paid next year, Like they're gonna have 946 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 5: to figure out, you know, do they do they want 947 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 5: to pay him again? And what if he's good enough 948 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 5: that you're not in position to draft Will Campbell? You know, 949 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 5: and now some other Now other teams are going to 950 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 5: get involved, and maybe you don't feel like this guy's 951 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 5: not going to be the left. 952 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 3: As whether it's Will Campbell or the next best guy, 953 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 3: the Patriots will be in position to get a good 954 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 3: left tackle if they want to use it in the 955 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 3: first round. 956 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 7: Yeah. So you know, Campbell right now is is considered 957 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 7: a stud, you know, but Joe Alt was considered a 958 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 7: stud too and he ended up going fifth. So it's 959 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 7: not like it's a guarantee that he's going to go 960 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 7: in the top three or anything like that. But without 961 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 7: this being a quarterback heavy draft, that would be that 962 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 7: would be the projection right now. 963 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,439 Speaker 2: I would just love to not have to go into 964 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 2: the draft thinking, okay, we have to use the first round. 965 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, left tack, right right. I don't think that they 966 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 4: would have to, but like why not, Like, I mean, 967 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 4: I think you could, but I don't think you have to. 968 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 4: I think you could easily make an argument for a 969 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 4: wide receiver too, right, But you have to something else. 970 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 4: Edge Rusher. 971 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why you know. I gave you. 972 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 4: I gave you something else. 973 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 3: But if the defense, but if the tax, if the 974 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 3: offensive line isn't good this year and it's because of 975 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 3: the tackles you're going to have to have. 976 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 4: That probably forces your hand right right. 977 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 3: But I'm I'm hoping that we're excited about Drake May. 978 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 3: He's going to be the guy, and next year is 979 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 3: going to be about filling in pieces around him to 980 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,720 Speaker 3: make this offense even better. 981 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean the receivers in this class, I haven't 982 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 7: done deep dives into any of them, but Luther Burden 983 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 7: is like the consensus number one receiver in the class 984 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 7: coming up. But he's not considered to be neighbors Harrison 985 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 7: and the duneesay like he's probably more considered on that 986 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 7: lower tier you're like not quite two years ago, like 987 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 7: probably a little bit better in the middle somewhere there. 988 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 7: So you know, he's a good player. And he is 989 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 7: more of like that. I would compare him maybe to 990 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 7: like a move piece, like he's not an X, like 991 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 7: a true X. You know, he's gonna be somebody that's 992 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 7: gonna move around the formation and do some different things 993 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 7: for you. And he's dynamic and he's an explosive athlete. 994 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 7: But I just don't necessarily I guess maybe I prioritize 995 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 7: the left tackle a little bit higher, Like I would 996 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 7: much rather get the receiver in the veteran market, like 997 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 7: I'll get Brandon Aiyuk or T Higgins or whatever, and 998 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 7: I would take the tackle. 999 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like, you don't necessarily have to 1000 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 4: do you prioritize it however you see fit. 1001 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 3: That was my only point, Mike and bill Rickin is 1002 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,959 Speaker 3: my seventh training camp since I turned since I start 1003 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 3: to go into Patriots camp, and I turned it into 1004 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 3: an annual birthday tradition. 1005 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 2: Thrill to be here, especially with the shade today. Weighing 1006 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: in on the Wallace conversation, I'm with Evan on this one. 1007 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 2: I want us to put our players in the best 1008 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 2: possible position to successfully develop. I do think Wallace is 1009 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 2: out of position at left tackle. Also, Wow, Joe Milton 1010 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 2: throws the ball effortlessly. I'm all in on Mail, but 1011 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 2: I'm excited. 1012 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 3: To see the Bazuka on May, I should say, but 1013 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 3: I'm excited to see the Bazuka unleashed. 1014 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 4: Sorry, Paul, I hate to get the back flop. I 1015 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 4: think he has one of the best times I've ever seen. Ever. 1016 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 4: You don't have to yeah, I mean like l way 1017 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 4: like yeah. 1018 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 8: I have a question, Paul. Do you think that it's 1019 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 8: too late to learn how to properly train that type 1020 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 8: of arm or do you think that was something that 1021 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,479 Speaker 8: should have been done. 1022 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. I'm just going off of 1023 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 4: his college career was bad. It wasn't even like not good, 1024 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 4: it was bad. Yeah, luck too. I mean, he's just 1025 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 4: he didn't play a lot. I don't know. 1026 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 5: I mean Ryan Ryan Mallet kind of had similar questions, 1027 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 5: didn't he When he came in and he just had 1028 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 5: an absolute cannon. 1029 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 4: But you know, it's like it's like the wild Stallion. 1030 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 4: You know, you gotta you have to train? Was that 1031 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 4: Wild Stallions from h Yeah? From Ryan was a lot 1032 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 4: better in Arkansas that Joe Milton was. 1033 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 5: Sure, Yeah, for sure, But but I don't think he 1034 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 5: ever really found the touch right that he needed. 1035 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 7: The Tennessee tape is just it's just not good. 1036 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 4: And so I've had a lot of people, you know, 1037 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 4: and I listen, I'm no college football expert. I don't 1038 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 4: I don't pretend to watch these games and break him down. 1039 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 4: But I've had a lot of people reach out to 1040 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 4: me from that area and send me clips of the 1041 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 4: different things that got him in trouble a lot, and 1042 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 4: I just I'm not sure I didn't. Some guys just 1043 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 4: aren't quarterbacks. I think he's a great athlete. 1044 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 5: I'm not sure he's a quarter I think I mean, 1045 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 5: I think it's and it might just to me be 1046 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 5: more processing than trying to figure out how to the 1047 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 5: short passes. It's I mean, that's what stood out to 1048 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 5: me from OTAs was that look great seven on seven. 1049 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 5: But then once there was a defense doing some confusing 1050 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 5: stuff that he didn't know what they were going to do, 1051 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 5: he looked a little bit more unsure where to go 1052 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 5: with the ball, and you know, a little rushed. And 1053 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 5: then but we all know the mechanics get messed up 1054 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 5: from our. 1055 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 4: Physical from the physical study point, you watch the guy 1056 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 4: and it's just case it can't. 1057 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 7: That's why I kind of feel like as a backup quarterback, 1058 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 7: it's not it's never a bad thing to have your 1059 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 7: backup quarterback have a trait that is just stands alone. 1060 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 7: You know. Maybe some people would rather have, you know, 1061 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 7: someone that can come in, like Chase Daniel that can 1062 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 7: just come in and keep you in games and things 1063 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 7: like that. But at the same time, if you want 1064 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 7: to have a backup quarterback, that's the opposite where it's like, okay, well, 1065 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 7: if he has to get into a game, at least 1066 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 7: we know we can throw it a mile, like, you know, 1067 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 7: you have that call for you, right, so I don't know, 1068 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 7: you can go out with it. 1069 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 5: Almost it almost makes me wonder what it would have 1070 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 5: been like if you know the situation where like it 1071 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 5: wasn't twenty sixteen where all of a sudden the third 1072 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 5: string rookie quack just had to get thrust into it and. 1073 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 4: It was him and it was like we're just running 1074 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 4: four verts every. 1075 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 7: Time, you like basically what tennessee, Yeah, we talked about 1076 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 7: Pop Douglas for a second, because has he been popping 1077 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 7: for you? No, this is just super weird, like what's 1078 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 7: going on with him? So Earlier he was he was 1079 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 7: fielding kickoffs. Now he's going through positional drills with the 1080 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 7: receivers and catching passes. The point that I made on Yeah, 1081 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 7: and then we get to team and he's just off 1082 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 7: to the side, not participating. I don't know what the 1083 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 7: injury is or what it is, but he looked. You 1084 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 7: watch him run around and he's running five Do you. 1085 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 8: Think that there is fear that there could be contact 1086 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 8: though in some of those team drills, because you know, 1087 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 8: sometimes they get bumped and you fall. Do you do 1088 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 8: they just want to avoid that altogether? 1089 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. I'm just I'm not saying that. 1090 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 7: It's like, I'm not trying to go all tinfoil hat 1091 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 7: on anybody and say it's some conspiracy, but just weird. 1092 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 7: It's just odd that he's seems to be doing something. 1093 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 2: I can understand. 1094 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,720 Speaker 3: I can understand them not rolling out the gadget plays 1095 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 3: with him yet, but you would think you'd want to 1096 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 3: have him just doing the normal team drills with wide 1097 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 3: receivers because he needs the practice too, you know. So 1098 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm trying to imagine what he trying 1099 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 3: to imagine what injury would keep him from doing all 1100 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 3: wide receiver drills, but then not do it when you 1101 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:20,479 Speaker 3: do team. 1102 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 7: I thought there's no way. Almost I feelt there's no 1103 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 7: way it could be hand because if it had then 1104 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,800 Speaker 7: you wouldn't be fieldinges. 1105 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 5: I will say too, I think it's been kind of 1106 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 5: noticeable without his presence within there's not a lot of 1107 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 5: pop in the in the receiver room to begin with, 1108 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 5: but his quickness, his change in direction, it's it's. 1109 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 4: Unique in this group. 1110 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 2: Well when they do that little you know, angling tackling 1111 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 2: drill like he's you know, he's on a different level 1112 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 2: than most of the guys, the sudden change of direction. 1113 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 4: But he'd be a nice piece to see. 1114 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 5: I think we're also used to that kind of role 1115 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 5: being highly productive in the old system. 1116 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 4: You know, how much is it going to fit into 1117 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 4: this new system? 1118 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 5: You know, is is that you know, slot guy's still 1119 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 5: really going to be as big of a piece as 1120 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 5: it kind of was with the Josh McDaniels offense. 1121 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, going back to Dante, you gotta have 1122 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 3: that banky. Yeah, it's either your tight end or a 1123 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:20,359 Speaker 3: slot guy. 1124 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 5: Usually it's just it's just how much is he is 1125 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 5: he going to play? Like when it's you know, I 1126 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 5: clearly third long. Yeah, he's going to be out there, 1127 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 5: but you know, conventionally in time and on rhythm the 1128 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 5: offense is in you know, in structure, like. 1129 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 7: Is I just I don't know, I don't know where 1130 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 7: he fits into the type of scheme that they at 1131 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 7: least want to run on paper on first down. Like 1132 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 7: that's the biggest thing to me is that if you 1133 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 7: want to be a run first offense and build the 1134 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 7: play action off of it, are you really going to 1135 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 7: have one hundred and eighty pound receiver is like one 1136 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 7: of your two wide receivers on the field and like 1137 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 7: a twelve personnel. No, You're probably gonna want to have 1138 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 7: guys that can block and can throw their weight around 1139 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,879 Speaker 7: a little bit. And that that's why I wonder if 1140 00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 7: his role is more third down yeah, two minute minute 1141 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 7: like you know in the game situations obvious passing downs 1142 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 7: like things like that, and that might like disappoint some people. 1143 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, if that's the case. 1144 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 7: But when you got out there first and ten from 1145 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 7: the twenty five, you know is and you have to 1146 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 7: ask somebody to you know, block the nickel, Like are 1147 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 7: you really going to ask Pop Douglas to be the 1148 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 7: one that's doing. 1149 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 5: That, whereas with like Polk, like maybe not the burner 1150 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 5: or the sudden, but like got the size. 1151 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 7: And it's no coincidence to me that that Polk and 1152 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 7: Baker both have some size to them and when they 1153 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 7: drafted those guys, I think you look at these West 1154 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 7: Coast offenses and these coaching trees. You look at San 1155 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 7: Francisco with a Yuke and Debo, and you look at 1156 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 7: the Packers, Watson, Dobbs, like those guys are bigger guys, 1157 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 7: you know, the Rams, Cooper, Cup, Hohoka, Nakua. That's the 1158 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 7: type of body type that they tend to go after. 1159 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 7: And uh and that definitely is what Baker and polkar. 1160 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sun's starting to poke through again. 1161 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 4: Dang it. It was really nice that an. 1162 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,919 Speaker 3: Nice reprieve for a little bit, But here comes the sun. 1163 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,919 Speaker 3: I'm not complaining though. Summer is too short, right. 1164 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 5: It seems like this week's going to be a little 1165 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 5: up and down with the weather too, so it might 1166 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 5: be a little wet out there tomorrow for pads. 1167 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 7: So twenty five twenty US after the first quarter against Serbia, 1168 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 7: for people that. 1169 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 4: Care, Okay, Serbia is good. Thank you, Scott Hansome. 1170 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,959 Speaker 7: Jason Tatum has yet to play in the game to play, 1171 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 7: yet to play in the game. So do you think 1172 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 7: they're they're saving him? I think Steve Kurse stinks and 1173 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 7: it's actually going to get me fired up, So I 1174 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 7: think we should move on, you want? 1175 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,439 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah. 1176 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 6: The Douglas thing, to me is is different. 1177 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 4: I know that Mark Daniels reported a hand, and Mayo 1178 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 4: sort of confirmed that he was dealing with something that 1179 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 4: wasn't serious and was considered day to day, But it 1180 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 4: is hard to imagine it's a hand. 1181 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 6: When he's catching the ball as much as he is. 1182 00:51:58,840 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1183 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, well you don't want to speculate player. 1184 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 4: No, at least he's out here. 1185 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 5: I mean, but he looks great. I mean he's flying 1186 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 5: around like he always does. 1187 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1188 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, we said we did see Mapu walk walk out. 1189 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,800 Speaker 5: You know that's another you know, disappointing one. Just guys 1190 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 5: first second year, Yep, they start missing practices. It's like, man, 1191 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 5: how how is he going to crack this lineup? With 1192 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 5: Jalen Hawkins making a push, Pepper's and Duggar are now 1193 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 5: secure and kind of what their roles are. 1194 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 4: Going to be. 1195 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 5: You know, Mapu It's just he needs an opportunity and 1196 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 5: he needs to take advantage of it. 1197 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 4: And right now, I'm just I'm just not really sure 1198 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 4: where that's going to come other than special teams. 1199 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I will hardly agree with you bringing up Mapu. 1200 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 7: I'm glad you did, because you cannot. He has to 1201 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 7: be out there, like, he's got to be a guy 1202 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 7: that that cars out a role for himself. And right now, 1203 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 7: you know, he can't make the club from the tub, right, 1204 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 7: So obviously a guy that you wish was out there. 1205 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 4: And you know, you wonder if there was an opportunity 1206 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 4: there for him too, because Taki Taki's been on PUP 1207 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 4: and you know, we talk about him. Is he a safety? 1208 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 4: Is he a linebacker? We've seen almost all safety, but 1209 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 4: that's the kind of linebacker he could be. 1210 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 5: Is that that mold that Mac Wilson was, And Taki 1211 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 5: Taki figures to be an athletic guy, maybe in sub 1212 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,320 Speaker 5: packages and whatnot, you know, closer to the line of skimmage. 1213 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,319 Speaker 4: But you know, neither one of them have been out here. 1214 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was hoping that, you know, we're talking about 1215 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 7: this a little bit on Catchway two with Matt Mapu. 1216 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 7: I was kind of hoping that they might look at 1217 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 7: him as like almost like a big nickel because when 1218 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 7: they usually go to nickel, like it's gonna be Marcus 1219 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 7: Jones or Jonathan Jones and they just don't have a 1220 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 7: ton of size and screen and they haven't had a 1221 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 7: ton of size there in years, you know, Miles Bryant's 1222 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,880 Speaker 7: been in there or whatever, and it would be nice to, 1223 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 7: you know, when you play these Shanahan Tree teams, you know, 1224 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 7: like the Dolphins and things like that, when they come 1225 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 7: out heavy on first down, to have a player like 1226 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 7: a Mapu who could cover the slot, cover a tight 1227 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 7: end and and be able to hold up against the 1228 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 7: run and not necessarily allow Mike McDaniel to just target 1229 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 7: Marcus Owns and Jonathan Jones in the corners in the 1230 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 7: run game. Even Christian Gonzalez is not necessarily like a 1231 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 7: physical guy. And I've seen that in the last couple 1232 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,240 Speaker 7: of years with those Shanahan Tree teams that that tends 1233 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 7: to happen at times, and you'd like to see Maphu 1234 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 7: maybe carbon or role like that. 1235 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 2: There was is that Milton who just skied one as Jacobe, 1236 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 2: Is this the first day we've had overflow onto the 1237 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 2: ramps with the fans. 1238 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 4: I believe. 1239 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's definitely very Uh, it's a good crowd today, 1240 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 5: trout today, Sunday, Sunday fun day. 1241 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, let's bring your mom to birthday. 1242 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 4: And your grandma and my grandma. 1243 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 6: Nobody's got a better seat than them sitting in the view. 1244 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 7: I couldn't put them out there and beat Drake made 1245 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,760 Speaker 7: a Jay bom baker against air. 1246 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:52,359 Speaker 9: Well. 1247 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 4: On fairness, they haven't haven't hit them all against their 1248 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 4: so far, so it's a little concerning. 1249 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,280 Speaker 7: It is funny watching these quarterbacks throw again there because 1250 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 7: you know, guys like Drink May and Joe Milton are 1251 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 7: obviously it's such a different look than Mac and Bailey's appy. 1252 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 7: It can's there, but the accuracy isn't always there. But 1253 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 7: the ball comes out faster, you know. 1254 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,840 Speaker 5: No, it's it's so nice not to every time you 1255 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 5: see him throwing a deep out like gauging the speed 1256 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 5: of it. It's just every it's it's like, look, I 1257 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 5: don't know if it's going to be right where it 1258 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 5: needs to be every time. 1259 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:24,760 Speaker 4: But he's got people. 1260 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 5: I mean, both those guys got the arm. 1261 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 3: Let's see. Patrick writes in a little bright. So a 1262 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 3: couple of things I want to throw out there. First, 1263 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 3: I was wondering which of the four quarterbacks has the 1264 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,720 Speaker 3: biggest reaction from the crowd when they've taken the field 1265 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 3: for this camp. 1266 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 4: I think they're all about the same. 1267 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 7: Honestly, I feel like the biggest cheer I've heard so 1268 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 7: far is for Judon, not a quarter. 1269 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 3: Right, and Fred, I love you, You're the king of 1270 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 3: Patriots media, but I couldn't disagree with you more. Regarding 1271 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 3: the left tackle position, if you want to stud at 1272 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,439 Speaker 3: that position, you have to draft him, and more often 1273 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 3: than not, draft them high. Usually the guys have become 1274 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 3: available via free agency, usually have injury concerns or the 1275 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 3: middle of the road players. And I remember Paul saying 1276 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,760 Speaker 3: something like, if you have a good player at that position, 1277 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 3: why would you trade them when I called in and 1278 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 3: proposed trading for Orlando Brown. 1279 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 2: A few years ago. 1280 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 3: If their prognostic cators are correct and we ended up 1281 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 3: picking top five, again, go get that stud left tackle. 1282 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 4: But you know, okay, so everybody's. 1283 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 7: Definition, Jalens just become a high from who Jacobe bressetting 1284 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 7: one on one's go ball to Jalen Rager and his 1285 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 7: eazy hearns having a tough tamp. 1286 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 3: Oh right, mister, But you know everyone's definition of stud 1287 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 3: is different. But I think you know, you can get 1288 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 3: a good left tackle and it doesn't have to be 1289 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 3: Orlando Brown or you know, Tyrone Smith and you can win. 1290 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 7: Oh well, that's that was beautiful. Great throwing catch from 1291 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 7: Drake made a Kaishan Boody on Christian Gonzalez. 1292 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, really strong. 1293 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 7: Catch by Booty and a dropping in the bucket throw 1294 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:14,760 Speaker 7: on a go route. 1295 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 5: Thornton got some separation ball behind him, still makes the Yeah, 1296 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 5: that was twenty nine I think pulld h Yeah, nice catch. 1297 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 5: That's some separation though there from Thorny. 1298 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a nice catch on this field. Zappi to 1299 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 3: eighty eight Jahaeane Bell Jahaime Bell. 1300 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 2: Real good. 1301 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 3: He had coverage, was right there and he just focused 1302 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 3: and basically took it away from the defender. 1303 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 7: Drake May taking a decent amount of these. 1304 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 4: Thirty field David Wallace. 1305 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, David Wallace, that he ain't that fast. 1306 00:57:54,800 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 4: Too long, You're never wrong long, David Wallace. Course, character 1307 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 4: in the office. Seven, it's true. There's the Brakes on 1308 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 4: and oh Man forty seven. 1309 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 3: All Yeah, a lot of contact there. I'm not sure 1310 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 3: if the rest were here that wouldn't get a flag. 1311 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 5: We're back at the top of the order here one 1312 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 5: verse thirty Henry smokes Jabrill Pepper. 1313 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 7: Sorry, dude, that's going to get a No. 1314 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 5: That's a good separation there from one over thirty one. 1315 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:27,919 Speaker 5: That's a good win for him. 1316 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, those are the types of routes to that highlighted. 1317 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 7: Expect a ton of those from Jal and Paul crossing 1318 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 7: route over the middle. That's his bread and butter. 1319 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 4: Joe and Baker trying to get on as easy and miscommunication. 1320 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 4: He wanted them to do the comeback. 1321 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1322 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 4: So this is one thing that sort of surprised me 1323 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 4: that we haven't seen much else until today, and a. 1324 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 7: Lot of team so far. It's nice. 1325 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 4: Wow ball fourteen to two obvious sideline. This is the 1326 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 4: day the Patriots offense hit its stride. 1327 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 7: In Some of these go balls have been beautiful. 1328 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Drake May back in there. 1329 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 5: Have you got you got Marco Wilson one against eighty 1330 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 5: three greger Man. 1331 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 4: He looks loose, he moves Man. 1332 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 2: Wide open, but May wasn't on the same page. 1333 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 5: May overthrew him, but as an Alady threw it about 1334 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 5: two feet over his head. 1335 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,959 Speaker 4: I think he did. I didn't think he was gonna juju. 1336 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 5: Juju vers Gonzales. It's a little shake. Oh god, No, 1337 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 5: Gonzalez was all over that one probably would have been 1338 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 5: a pick. 1339 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 7: If absolutely, I. 1340 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 4: Thought he should have got it too juju. I mean 1341 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 4: went right off the stage. 1342 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 7: That happened a ton last year. Well, I'm too far 1343 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 7: in front of Chasehawn Boody. But that's another good route 1344 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,440 Speaker 7: by Booty on Marcus Jones. Is that who that? Yeah, 1345 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 7: a couple of misfires there from Drake. I thought. 1346 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 4: A couple beats up the sideline from both guys. 1347 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, some times off the sideline. Both quarterbacks were going. 1348 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 5: Now we're on the other side, all right, all right, 1349 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 5: river side it right. 1350 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,479 Speaker 4: Wait, we learned something new this year. Last year was chalk. 1351 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 4: That's just chalk. 1352 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 7: I can't believe that. That was so groundbreaking. 1353 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 4: David Wallace, Oh. 1354 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 7: He just can't time it up with David Wallace. 1355 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 2: But he beat his man. 1356 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 7: It's David Wells too. 1357 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 4: Well, did I call him? 1358 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you're thinking of the office guy. 1359 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 4: It's Wallace. His name was Wallace. 1360 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, number thirty it's a l L I s yeah, okay, 1361 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 5: it's a different wallace. 1362 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 7: But taekwon taekwon, of course doing very well in the 1363 01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 7: drill one and the drill with a little contact and 1364 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 7: no pads. 1365 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 5: Here's an we got. It's like one got overthrown a 1366 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 5: little bit there against what Sean. 1367 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 6: Rag and boo. I think I stood out to me. 1368 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,919 Speaker 7: Paul, like how you brought that up? Because I feel 1369 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 7: like Booty ended the last day of mini camp really 1370 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 7: strong with a couple of catches. 1371 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 8: And I was wondering how he's gonna come out here 1372 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 8: to training camp. 1373 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 2: He has pass as your has your work from home 1374 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 2: space turned into an everything from home space. 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So what are we seeing? 1384 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 4: One on ones. 1385 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 5: Continuing here with wide receivers and cornerbacks on our right field, 1386 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 5: and looks like a lot of linebackers and safeties and 1387 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 5: tight ends and running backs on our left field. The 1388 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 5: lines worked down in Dante's Inferno. We're still calling that. 1389 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 5: So yeah, Jamon Baker going here, h against it's a 1390 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 5: bomb and right right in front of the crowd, and 1391 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 5: he throws the ball into the air in celebration. 1392 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 2: That's what you called running underneath it and he caught 1393 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 2: up to that him great adjustment, Yeah, yeah, over his 1394 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 2: shoulder looking up, found it and he beat him right 1395 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 2: off the line. Yeah, you know from from the go he. 1396 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 7: Was he had the step that's Mikey Victor like an 1397 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 7: undrafted rookie. But yeah, that was a great adjustment over 1398 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 7: the shoulders. 1399 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 4: Still though, this is you know, Baker Riager. I feel 1400 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 4: like I made some boy. 1401 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 2: Can't forget about it a little bit of and this 1402 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 2: is what the crowd is looking for. Why gets them going, 1403 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 2: oh yeah yeah? Bomb passes right in front of these connections. 1404 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 7: Fred. 1405 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 8: It's also a good point too that I think one 1406 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 8: topic that we've continually brought up throughout campus, the ability 1407 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 8: for these wide receivers to get separation. If you've seen that, 1408 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 8: not there a little bit, not there. 1409 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 7: We haven't seen that a lot. 1410 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 3: But you know, to Evan's point, if you can't get 1411 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 3: separation in this drill, you can't get separation. 1412 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 7: You know, take your bags and go home. 1413 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 3: WHOA, All right, we have to turn our cameras away 1414 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 3: now because they're going into some more strategic X and 1415 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 3: o's and some strategy. 1416 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want that on camera. 1417 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 7: So Paul Evan is ready to send guys packing round. 1418 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 4: I know he's harsh. He's hard. 1419 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 7: If you can't get open in one on ones as 1420 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 7: a receiver at this level, then you're in trouble. 1421 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 5: Right, What if the ball just keeps hitting you in 1422 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 5: the hands and you can't catch it. And Juju's had 1423 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 5: a couple of drops. 1424 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 8: It sounds like a Juju or DeVante Parker. It's all 1425 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 8: we saw last year. 1426 01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 4: I just tell you, you know, you see Born out 1427 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 4: here are dancing around before practice, you know, you know, 1428 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 4: as they were getting ready to warm up and stuff. 1429 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 4: So I mean that tells me that he's probably going 1430 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 4: to be ready physically at the start of the regular season. 1431 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 6: I just don't I don't know if there's a spot. 1432 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if there's a spot for some of 1433 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 4: those guys juju, but what well, that's it's it's I mean, 1434 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 4: that's what everything is. 1435 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 5: Everything in these camps, everything is, everything is everything. You 1436 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,120 Speaker 5: realize it from watching hard knocks that they're going to 1437 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 5: go back and they're going to watch all these plays again, 1438 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 5: and you know, it's what you know. I think early 1439 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 5: on I would have said, oh, it's just you know, 1440 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 5: one drop in a camp practice, but you realize all 1441 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 5: this stuff counts to them, especially when you got what 1442 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 5: twelve wide receivers and you know, every every drill it 1443 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 5: counts for something. And some guys are making some plays 1444 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 5: and other guys are are letting players. 1445 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 3: Go back and it's you know, they used to ask 1446 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 3: Belichick about this, and I'm sure eventually the last draft 1447 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 3: is like, how much patience do you have with guys 1448 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 3: you know, if they if they're not doing it right away, 1449 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 3: how do you know that you're not giving up on 1450 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:02,439 Speaker 3: a guy too soon. 1451 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 2: It's a late bloomer. It's so tough. 1452 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 4: Peppers sevens. Yeah, so this is interesting with Alex Austin 1453 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 4: and Marco Wilson. Is the corners to start this one. 1454 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 7: And those guys are opportunities. 1455 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's just this I think I said it yesterday. 1456 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 5: There's just there's been a lot of that stuff where 1457 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 5: I think it's it's it's just really hard. 1458 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 2: To discern seven on sevens. 1459 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, seven on seven's. 1460 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 7: Got Osborne, Paul, Henry Taekwon, Thornton hermandre right up for 1461 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 7: that's so. 1462 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 3: So what they're doing is they're taking what they did 1463 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 3: in the last drill and now they're putting seven guys 1464 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 3: on the field instead of just a corner back and 1465 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 3: the receivers seeing the sideline going down the sideline again, 1466 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 3: these go routes back shoulders. 1467 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 7: And that was a from the slot to Jalen Polk, 1468 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 7: and the quarterbacks have got to put the ball up 1469 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 7: higher for a guy like Jalen Pol because he's not 1470 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 7: going to create a ton of separation on those You 1471 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,960 Speaker 7: gotta give him a chance to just go up and 1472 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 7: get the ball. And a couple of these that we've seen, 1473 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 7: the timing just hasn't been quite. 1474 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 4: It's supposed to to. By and Bentley in the middle 1475 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 4: of there set fires it in. 1476 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 7: There to see that that's gonna be where Polk's. 1477 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 2: Gonna win in my opinion, over the middle. 1478 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, he gets matched up on it's Isaiah Bolden there 1479 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 7: in the slot and just runs a little uh you know, 1480 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:42,560 Speaker 7: return route and it gets open just quick off the line. 1481 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,680 Speaker 7: I mean, that's good for a guy like Drake May 1482 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 7: who loves to throw across the middle. 1483 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 4: That's good. 1484 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 5: All right, What do we got that's too tight? Looks 1485 01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 5: like Juju and somebody who's being directed. Yeah, Juju and Rager, 1486 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,440 Speaker 5: Henry and Hooper Antonio Gibson getting some run in this. 1487 01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 5: So that's good. 1488 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 7: Hooper, nice Hooper, nice win on Exable having a kind 1489 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 7: of a rough rough here, all of a sudden. 1490 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,439 Speaker 4: Picking on him, picking on him, Drake time. 1491 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 7: That's been a strong are for Jacoby Brissett. 1492 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 5: A couple of completions, four reps, and now against Drake 1493 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,320 Speaker 5: we're putting in Jonathan Jones and Christians give the rookie 1494 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,640 Speaker 5: the hell So I like this, Yeah, me too, And 1495 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 5: and Marcus Jones the rookie receivers Polk and Baker out there. 1496 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 7: And isn't this the first one we've seen this because 1497 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 7: usually he's getting the secondary guys. 1498 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's been a pretty good rotation Michael jumps 1499 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,800 Speaker 5: off that come on start and he's out, go run 1500 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 5: a lap. 1501 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 4: Go run a lap on Mike, But yeah, I have 1502 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 4: a look at him. Just run a lot. It's Gibson 1503 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 4: in there too, so he's starting to get a little 1504 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 4: little run. 1505 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 5: And then is that Pop Douglas just running Gassers there 1506 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 5: down in the poor guy? 1507 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:07,919 Speaker 4: Coach? 1508 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 2: When do I get to touch the ball? All right? 1509 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 4: Back at it. 1510 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 7: Marcus Jones versus Jayvon Baker on the outside, Oh yeah, 1511 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 7: there you go again, a little slanted Jalen Polk over 1512 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:27,639 Speaker 7: the middle. That those are the that's gonna be him? Oh, Paul, 1513 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,240 Speaker 7: If that's well, you gotta have somebody to do that. 1514 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I said, but I think I. 1515 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 7: Think that's definitely giving Jacoby Myers honestly, that one did. Yeah, 1516 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,519 Speaker 7: just possession Chane Mover. 1517 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,560 Speaker 5: I don't know, I mean, you know, I look, I 1518 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 5: think we'll have no time for three Yeah, I don't 1519 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:50,479 Speaker 5: for a first down. 1520 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 4: I just yeah, okay, if it's third and one, yeah, okay, great. 1521 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 7: Yep, right off the line that time I just throw. 1522 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. So my observation for three years now has not 1523 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 4: changed on Marcus Jones. He chases a. 1524 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 5: Lot he's really fast, but he's always chasing from behind. Yeah, 1525 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 5: kJ Osborne got him right off the line on that one. 1526 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:13,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1527 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 7: I don't think that he's an outside corner, and it 1528 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 7: is for that reason and for the size obviously, but 1529 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,600 Speaker 7: I think he's been pretty competitive in the slot so 1530 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,240 Speaker 7: far in camp, but when you put him on the outside, 1531 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:25,280 Speaker 7: it's tough for him. 1532 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1533 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,600 Speaker 5: Well, right now they're playing with Jones Jonathan Jones in 1534 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 5: the slot and Marcus on the outside. That's what they 1535 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 5: were doing. A little They might banjo this one though, 1536 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:32,760 Speaker 5: so be stay tuned. 1537 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 6: Oh good, good. 1538 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:35,719 Speaker 4: Good. 1539 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. I like the stacks that they run in this 1540 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 7: offense though, it's yeah, those two receiver stacks, and. 1541 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, you missed them. 1542 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,599 Speaker 4: Didn't think he had Thornton dead. I think Thornton had 1543 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 4: a step on Gonzales and he kind of hesitated. I'll 1544 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 4: just say that. 1545 01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,800 Speaker 5: I mean, I think we'll continue to break down ja 1546 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:04,479 Speaker 5: of Polk's game, but it's just involved, and I you know, 1547 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,280 Speaker 5: with some of the disappointing second round receivers and first 1548 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,759 Speaker 5: round receivers I've seen in my time here that can't 1549 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 5: get consistently involved, don't really seem to be on the 1550 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 5: quarterbacks radar. At the very least, it seems like Polk's 1551 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,040 Speaker 5: probably been the most targeted guy in these team drills 1552 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,280 Speaker 5: through you know, four days. For better or worse, it 1553 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 5: hasn't all looked great, but it just seems like the 1554 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 5: quarterbacks do look his way. 1555 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:31,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would agree with that. I mean, he said 1556 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,080 Speaker 7: the data would agree with you, just in terms of targets. 1557 01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 7: I just feel like I still feel the same way 1558 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,640 Speaker 7: about him as I did in the draft, which is 1559 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 7: just just not dynamic. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. 1560 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,840 Speaker 7: Like I'm not necessarily all the way on Paul's school 1561 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,240 Speaker 7: this side of the street either, but he's he's going 1562 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,639 Speaker 7: to be the chain mover. That's like what they want 1563 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 7: him to be. But I just don't see a lot 1564 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,720 Speaker 7: of dynamic movements before the catch, you know, in terms 1565 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,120 Speaker 7: of downfield we're out running and after the catch. But 1566 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 7: it doesn't mean he can't be a really steady possession 1567 01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 7: receiver in the league. It's just it's just not really 1568 01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 7: there to me. 1569 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 4: Potential one hundred and a thousand guy. 1570 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 7: Has the ceiling. Yeah, I think that that's sort of 1571 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 7: what you're hoping, right is is that kind of production. 1572 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:15,320 Speaker 4: I'll take that. 1573 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,800 Speaker 5: I'll be interested to see what happens when Douglas and 1574 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:18,879 Speaker 5: Bourne are out there. 1575 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 4: That they those are the best two receivers and they 1576 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 4: haven't they haven't taken a snap. 1577 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, so someone's got to get the ball through. Yeah, 1578 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 5: And that's kind of the bonus of it right now. 1579 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,679 Speaker 5: You know, that's kind of the benefit of not having 1580 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,600 Speaker 5: those guys out there is that Poult's seen a lot 1581 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 5: of action. I mean, he's getting a lot of reps 1582 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 5: he's getting, you know, I think that's good. 1583 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 4: I think it's just a good thing. Sapp he's in now. 1584 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 4: Oh he's third reps I've been more. 1585 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 7: Yep. 1586 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of staring at down. 1587 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 7: But under route to eighty six, Kaywon Baker. 1588 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 2: Big controversy that draws playing music throughout What do. 1589 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,599 Speaker 6: You think controversy? Someone upset about it. 1590 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,439 Speaker 2: You know, some people like Bill would have never done that. 1591 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,759 Speaker 4: I like it because I recognize some of the songs. 1592 01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,880 Speaker 7: And also every other team plays music throughout their practice, So. 1593 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 4: I've never been to another team's practice, so I could 1594 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 4: tell you. 1595 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,519 Speaker 8: Just from like being at the you know, Shrine Bowl 1596 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 8: and just seeing how a different team operates their practice. 1597 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,840 Speaker 8: They play music throughout even going to other people's training 1598 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 8: camps too. 1599 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:37,840 Speaker 7: You see that. 1600 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:44,600 Speaker 4: I like it, although not it's like white noise in 1601 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 4: the back. I don't even really even notice it. 1602 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 7: Also, this is not a boot camp. You don't need 1603 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 7: to just people out here playing silence. 1604 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 6: Well, they didn't play in silence. 1605 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,760 Speaker 4: They used to have loud music during team quick periods 1606 01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,599 Speaker 4: every day of Belichick's tenure for twenty five years. Yeah, 1607 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 4: but this is the difference here. Mayo has it throughout 1608 01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:11,719 Speaker 4: practice right, not yet, not just during the team periods. 1609 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,280 Speaker 2: Oh boy, okay zig when he thought he was gonna 1610 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:16,760 Speaker 2: zag z happy. 1611 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:33,000 Speaker 4: To know one. Yah. See. This is the portion when 1612 01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,479 Speaker 4: when people say, like, you know, this difference, I feel 1613 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:39,560 Speaker 4: like it drags in between reps and in between periods 1614 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:40,320 Speaker 4: a little bit more. 1615 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, this was something I thought all the way back 1616 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:47,320 Speaker 7: to the spring. Just gets a little bit monotonous at times, 1617 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,960 Speaker 7: like the pace of practice. It's a little bit slower, 1618 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,200 Speaker 7: I think a lot of the maybe a little bit 1619 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:54,719 Speaker 7: more teaching in between. 1620 01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 6: You know, there's a whole new offense. 1621 01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. 1622 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:03,000 Speaker 7: Whereas with with Bill, he typically they they would save 1623 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 7: that for after practice. They go back and watch the 1624 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 7: film and correct things there, whereas here it seems like 1625 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,840 Speaker 7: they wrap then they kind of have a pause to 1626 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 7: make sure that the coaches can get hands on and 1627 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,840 Speaker 7: say what they need to say, and then they go 1628 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 7: on to the next one. 1629 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,200 Speaker 4: I like the complaining about music, though, Fred, that's a 1630 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,719 Speaker 4: new one. Oh yeahs crousing about music. 1631 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 7: Eleven. 1632 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:27,840 Speaker 6: Darn that rock and roll. 1633 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:36,719 Speaker 5: Yeah back in the eleven's here no red zone. Maybe 1634 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 5: they just assume they won't get there. 1635 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,160 Speaker 6: So yeah, nothing, no one, nothing nothing. 1636 01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,000 Speaker 7: We do have that offensive line configuration that we were 1637 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 7: talking about earlier. 1638 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:47,600 Speaker 2: So eleven and eleven. 1639 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 7: Now Caden Wallace at left tackle and set under center 1640 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 7: at right. 1641 01:14:59,160 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 4: Big hole. 1642 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 5: He gone, Yeah, except Christiano. 1643 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:08,679 Speaker 6: Well that's why I think he was gone. 1644 01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:14,839 Speaker 4: Oh that's good, that's good stuff, said memories of Nego Collins. 1645 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 5: It's like Marty Makus just having like, can I can 1646 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,040 Speaker 5: I just know Marty get out the field? He's like 1647 01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 5: he's wandering on. Can I can I get the calls? 1648 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 4: Got a call? Can I get a call? 1649 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:26,760 Speaker 5: Here? 1650 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 7: Uh? 1651 01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:29,559 Speaker 4: Nice? 1652 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 7: Bounced there by Remandre though what you want to see? 1653 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:34,479 Speaker 6: And it was a hole. 1654 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 4: I was being sarcastic when I said he was gone, 1655 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:39,000 Speaker 4: But there was a there was a. 1656 01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,960 Speaker 6: Hole that four five yards. 1657 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,559 Speaker 2: Defense collapsed in and the outside was wide open. 1658 01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:50,479 Speaker 7: That one that was kind of the pace here is 1659 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:51,800 Speaker 7: not exactly. 1660 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:53,559 Speaker 6: That's Gibson that time. 1661 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,840 Speaker 7: So much for the pace, you know, Well, I think 1662 01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 7: one guy must have fought, think's over the top. One 1663 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,120 Speaker 7: guy obviously thought it was live, and the other guy was. 1664 01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 4: Like, he thinks it's a show. 1665 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,920 Speaker 7: David Andrews, David Andrews helmet came off there. Yeah, he 1666 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 7: might have been in the middle of that. 1667 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 4: That erupted quickly bad blood. 1668 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:18,840 Speaker 7: Before I would call that a krewfuffle. That wasn't I 1669 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:19,679 Speaker 7: would have tried. 1670 01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 2: Quickly broken up. 1671 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 7: I want to lay low. 1672 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 4: We'll have to go to the streets. 1673 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:29,320 Speaker 7: For that video. Yeah, that was not just say the streets. 1674 01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 4: That was I love what I can't. It's like my 1675 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 4: favorite line, I can't. No, it's not I can't even 1676 01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,479 Speaker 4: it's I can't. I just I can't, I can't and 1677 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 4: I won't and I shot thank you, I spring gun 1678 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 4: all right? 1679 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:58,760 Speaker 7: Check down drop by was that remondra Kevin Harris, Vin. 1680 01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:04,280 Speaker 5: Harris and it was it was a good foot over 1681 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:04,720 Speaker 5: his head, but. 1682 01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, not much there. 1683 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:17,759 Speaker 5: Still first pass of this it's yeah, not much there, 1684 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,280 Speaker 5: a little high, a little drop, yeah, and a lot 1685 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,760 Speaker 5: of pressure on the passer with a booty and thorn 1686 01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 5: on the outside and juju me inside, lots of speed 1687 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 5: of the slot here velgro Marcus Jones, Why does. 1688 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 7: That happen to him over and over and over. He's 1689 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:47,799 Speaker 7: got no bursts, He's got no, he's got no juice juju. 1690 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 8: It's like always bouncing off his chest, bouncing off his fingertips. 1691 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:52,640 Speaker 5: So that was I mean, just supposed to be a 1692 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,559 Speaker 5: quick bang, you know, him right off the lines, stepping 1693 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,840 Speaker 5: into a slant and then Marcus Jones was right there, 1694 01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:59,479 Speaker 5: got a little hand in there too. 1695 01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:00,680 Speaker 7: But got the wraps on them. 1696 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good plaint just walking off slowly. 1697 01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,240 Speaker 7: You feel bad for him, keep sitting on the ground 1698 01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,200 Speaker 7: and he just can't get any he can't get any separation. 1699 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,600 Speaker 4: Under said with to Kobe here rep Number five. 1700 01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 7: About that. So that's von God really split sack and 1701 01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,800 Speaker 7: yeah at a party at the quarterback on that one. 1702 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,160 Speaker 2: So all the good feelings of those one on ones 1703 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 2: are going away now that there's an actual rush. 1704 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:39,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was not much going. 1705 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,160 Speaker 7: Won his rep Clean Dietrich Wise the back was there, 1706 01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,639 Speaker 7: but Antonio Gibson was more of a speed bump. 1707 01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 2: I know they're not in pads, but has anyone watched 1708 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,400 Speaker 2: the line in you know how much contact there is 1709 01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 2: going on between D line and O line and. 1710 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,880 Speaker 4: And you know if this is a fair fight, I 1711 01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:58,200 Speaker 4: don't know. 1712 01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 7: Definitely favors the I feel like it will. 1713 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,120 Speaker 8: It will never be a fair fight, Fred, because this 1714 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 8: defensive line has so much continuity in chemistry that the 1715 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,880 Speaker 8: offensive line just doesn't happen. 1716 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:12,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just I mean, it's never a fair fight 1717 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,679 Speaker 7: at this point because it's basically like trying to guard 1718 01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,240 Speaker 7: somebody in basketball, Like you're just shuffling your feet and 1719 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,000 Speaker 7: trying to stay in front of people, whereas you know, 1720 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 7: there's really no finishing. 1721 01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,559 Speaker 3: The blox or something to be said for the guy 1722 01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,479 Speaker 3: who has the good footwork that can. 1723 01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,760 Speaker 4: So that's what I think it was. I think it 1724 01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,200 Speaker 4: was Anderson. There might have been Calvin Anderson who said, 1725 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,400 Speaker 4: you know, we really like these because we know if 1726 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,600 Speaker 4: we can do well protecting in this situation, it's going 1727 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,960 Speaker 4: to be easier, right, it can actually hit right. 1728 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 2: Like I'm sure the great ones still did well in 1729 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:47,640 Speaker 2: this situation. 1730 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:52,120 Speaker 7: Absolutely, Yeah, got Calvin Anderson at left and Viderian Lowe 1731 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,000 Speaker 7: had right tackle. Now, so that seems to be like 1732 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,560 Speaker 7: the twosomes, you know, who goes where is maybe. 1733 01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,599 Speaker 4: A little bit so who's the interior three? 1734 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:09,320 Speaker 7: The interior three we have Nick Leverett center for Michael Jordan, 1735 01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:11,479 Speaker 7: and this. 1736 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,360 Speaker 5: Center is fifty one. Yeah, fifty one, sixty four to 1737 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,720 Speaker 5: the right and seventy four is that I think so? 1738 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, so sixty four was to the right or left. 1739 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,040 Speaker 4: That's right guard, right guard? Okay, right guard? 1740 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:24,080 Speaker 6: Thanks guy, you. 1741 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 4: Got to develop that December depth. There you go. 1742 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,400 Speaker 5: And what was that play that I missed a little 1743 01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:32,720 Speaker 5: out to jam Oh I did see it? Yeah, oh 1744 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,679 Speaker 5: up in his now, Paul, it was average place extra 1745 01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:37,679 Speaker 5: every point too. 1746 01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,800 Speaker 4: Drake made had threeload. 1747 01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:43,880 Speaker 7: I didn't like it. 1748 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,440 Speaker 4: I can't stand it running again. 1749 01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:58,800 Speaker 5: May Yeah, that's kind of funny time when we never 1750 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,600 Speaker 5: seen he didn't really seem like he's even in the 1751 01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 5: mix really at all. 1752 01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:01,679 Speaker 9: Huh. 1753 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,639 Speaker 4: No traded for him last year. 1754 01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:09,679 Speaker 7: Seemed like, oh, definitely seems like the human ass Darien Lowead. 1755 01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,840 Speaker 7: Somebody looks like jumping around, looks like sixty four sixty 1756 01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,920 Speaker 7: four Michael Jordan right. 1757 01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,320 Speaker 4: No, I think is that Yeah, Marry, I can't remember 1758 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 4: which one. I think seventy four is Jordan sixty Layden 1759 01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,519 Speaker 4: Robinson the rookie. Yeah, he's on his way in a lap. 1760 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,360 Speaker 7: I always get sixty four and seventy four messed it up. Yeah, 1761 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,919 Speaker 7: that's part that needs to be fastest. 1762 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,439 Speaker 2: But okay asking plate, but uh, defender was right, so 1763 01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,559 Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely fact fred Sack on that play. 1764 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:48,080 Speaker 4: But Baker was wide open. Yeah yep. So you're saying 1765 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 4: he's got to get rid. 1766 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:49,200 Speaker 6: Of that ball. 1767 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,200 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm saying Baker gets open. 1768 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1769 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I've been watching for. I haven't really 1770 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:56,080 Speaker 4: watched the line. 1771 01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,639 Speaker 5: I've been watching guys like Juju off the line and 1772 01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,600 Speaker 5: which one of these guys have uh enough shimmy and 1773 01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,040 Speaker 5: shake to get away from press coverage. 1774 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:08,160 Speaker 7: I'm impressed by Javon Baker. He's got some he's got 1775 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 7: some twitch, he's got separation ability, and that's what they need. 1776 01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 5: Definitely more active day for him, just between the one 1777 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,720 Speaker 5: on ones and you know, even just this catch. I 1778 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:24,080 Speaker 5: haven't seen a lot of him so far, especially not on. 1779 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:35,320 Speaker 7: The Osborne so well, not a whole lot going. 1780 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,880 Speaker 4: Down by separation there either a lot of a lot 1781 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:39,360 Speaker 4: of wolf. 1782 01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:43,599 Speaker 5: That's my Alex Austin on the past, Alex Austin breaking 1783 01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:44,559 Speaker 5: up on k. 1784 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 3: I think he's a second too slow getting rid of 1785 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,960 Speaker 3: it right right now, it's got to get rid of 1786 01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:52,320 Speaker 3: that ball. 1787 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,480 Speaker 4: So the other thing that's a little different about this team, 1788 01:22:55,560 --> 01:23:00,080 Speaker 4: period is that the whole team is over on the 1789 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 4: the right fields. 1790 01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,080 Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, you have the two fields going at once, right. 1791 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,439 Speaker 7: I think that one on one period might have replaced 1792 01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:07,080 Speaker 7: the YEP. 1793 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,559 Speaker 2: And I just want to remind everyone that Bridgetone is 1794 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,920 Speaker 2: the official tire of the New England Patriots and proud 1795 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:16,160 Speaker 2: partner with Sullivan Tire, New England's headquarters for quality Bridgetone Tires. 1796 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,600 Speaker 2: Visit Sullivantire dot com to find a location near you. 1797 01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:24,519 Speaker 2: Kazuka Joe's in at his first pass batted down. 1798 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,320 Speaker 4: And he just had Dakway Jackson's life ended on a 1799 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:33,120 Speaker 4: slant that I think Jilani Tovai might have really done 1800 01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:34,679 Speaker 4: some damage in a live situation. 1801 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,759 Speaker 2: Listen, you know the offense is having its struggles today, 1802 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,240 Speaker 2: but remember they're going up against the top five defense, 1803 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:40,600 Speaker 2: all right. 1804 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,559 Speaker 4: I think it's top two, top one. Let's call it 1805 01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:48,799 Speaker 4: what it is. Melton back to pass pressure everywhere. 1806 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and an actual tackle and now we've got some fun, 1807 01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,440 Speaker 2: a little skirmish. 1808 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:55,080 Speaker 4: It's a fun. 1809 01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's not hit each other that hard. We don't 1810 01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:02,640 Speaker 3: have pads on. Mill went to offense, took offense at that. 1811 01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:09,800 Speaker 4: Anyone take a lap ever in this camp. Yeah, he 1812 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,439 Speaker 4: really took a lap. Yeah, he came all away. 1813 01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,080 Speaker 6: He didn't. I think Mafi took his place. 1814 01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:15,800 Speaker 4: I haven't clocked one yet. 1815 01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:18,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just saw one. 1816 01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:19,040 Speaker 4: We didn't. 1817 01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:24,680 Speaker 2: That was on that movement penalty. 1818 01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 5: Well no singing, No, shouldn't do that. But like it's 1819 01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:36,360 Speaker 5: gonna get flagg because you're you're hitting it pitch perfect Milton. 1820 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,639 Speaker 5: Milton flushed out of the pocket and well covered. 1821 01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,240 Speaker 4: He's gonna just run out. 1822 01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,920 Speaker 7: They banjoed that one. Yeah, there you go. The left 1823 01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,080 Speaker 7: hand side. They had two under routes and they switched 1824 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:47,400 Speaker 7: him in. 1825 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,240 Speaker 5: I wish they'd tell him, like when the play's dead, 1826 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:50,600 Speaker 5: they just throw it as far as you can, just 1827 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,760 Speaker 5: for and then do a back for. Just throw as 1828 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 5: far as you can, like nothing there set a throat away, 1829 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:55,800 Speaker 5: watch it. 1830 01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,240 Speaker 4: And that's it. No Super Bailey's appy today. 1831 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to get eyes on Van Pelt to see 1832 01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:04,400 Speaker 2: what his reaction is. 1833 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:09,599 Speaker 5: It's like he's taking a drink right now. Well, it's 1834 01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,360 Speaker 5: uh off. 1835 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,800 Speaker 7: To more positional work. 1836 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,640 Speaker 5: I mean really, the the little outroutes from May to 1837 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,880 Speaker 5: Polk was probably in my mind when the only plays 1838 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,240 Speaker 5: the oxygute, the offense really at least passing played it, 1839 01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:25,200 Speaker 5: it looked like in. 1840 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,679 Speaker 7: Time kind of I thought the crossing route to Javon 1841 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,519 Speaker 7: Baker was pretty much on time. Yeah, you know, they 1842 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,880 Speaker 7: ran a little uh stack on the right hand side, 1843 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,559 Speaker 7: and they're supposed to create that that traffic and that's 1844 01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,640 Speaker 7: not gonna hit like instantly. You know, that play takes it. 1845 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,479 Speaker 4: All right, so that will take it. 1846 01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,800 Speaker 7: But uh yeah, those are the two that that I 1847 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:47,840 Speaker 7: would highlight in that eleven's period. It's good to see, 1848 01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:51,960 Speaker 7: you know, all jokes aside, like Jalen Polk those outs, 1849 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,519 Speaker 7: the slants, like that's gonna be his game. Javon Baker 1850 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,320 Speaker 7: is gonna be a little deeper down the field. And 1851 01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,200 Speaker 7: it kind of felt like on those back to back 1852 01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:04,000 Speaker 7: reps we got a little snapshott, Yeah, doing the leveraging 1853 01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:09,599 Speaker 7: open field tackling drill. Now one guy chasing and one 1854 01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:13,280 Speaker 7: guy chasing him. You know, trying to tackle him in 1855 01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,200 Speaker 7: the open field. It's good practice. 1856 01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:18,559 Speaker 4: Hang out of that ball. 1857 01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, last year Pop Douglas fumbled the guy catching him 1858 01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,920 Speaker 7: from behind, and he knew that had to Irk Bill 1859 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,400 Speaker 7: because that's what they do, that drill every practice. 1860 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,759 Speaker 4: Lot of security and he never played again. 1861 01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,240 Speaker 7: I'm interested. What are you guys stance on that. 1862 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,920 Speaker 8: You know, if if a guy fumbles in a game, 1863 01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,160 Speaker 8: do you want to put him back out there in 1864 01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,080 Speaker 8: the same way that put Drake May back out there 1865 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:46,919 Speaker 8: after an interception? 1866 01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:47,679 Speaker 4: Yes? I do? 1867 01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:49,960 Speaker 7: Or do you think let's send him one or two 1868 01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,240 Speaker 7: games and then we'll put him back out there. 1869 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,920 Speaker 4: No. I like getting guys back out there now if 1870 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,240 Speaker 4: it becomes a habit, and then that's different than Yeah, 1871 01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,040 Speaker 4: you know, you got to have some you know, ramifications 1872 01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:03,839 Speaker 4: for for doing it incorrectly. But like for Andre Stevenson 1873 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,240 Speaker 4: fumbled in his first game, you know, with the game 1874 01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,720 Speaker 4: on the line. Oh no, actually his wasn't on me. 1875 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:11,280 Speaker 4: But he fumbled in his first game and then we 1876 01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:12,720 Speaker 4: didn't really see him for the rest of the month 1877 01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:16,240 Speaker 4: of September, right, Yeah, bugged me. Yeah. The lesser you 1878 01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:20,960 Speaker 4: know extent with Douglas last year, well, that's one thing 1879 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,439 Speaker 4: I used to strongly disagree with Bill about. 1880 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think any coach has to have 1881 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:30,080 Speaker 5: a philosophy about how stringing you're going to be with 1882 01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,280 Speaker 5: younger players, because younger players are going to make mistakes, 1883 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:34,760 Speaker 5: but you don't want to get them into a place 1884 01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,600 Speaker 5: where they're afraid to make mistakes, and you got to 1885 01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,200 Speaker 5: be tougher on veterans that you know. 1886 01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,960 Speaker 2: No, I think Bill would argue that for the young player, 1887 01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,559 Speaker 2: I do want them to be afraid to make mistakes, 1888 01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,360 Speaker 2: because you saw, you know, we had those behind the 1889 01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:52,400 Speaker 2: scenes cameras sometimes in meetings and you'd hear Bill say, 1890 01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,920 Speaker 2: don't be that guy that loses the game. Don't be 1891 01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,000 Speaker 2: the guy that ruins it for the rest of your team. 1892 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,439 Speaker 2: And I think he did coach out of fear when 1893 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:01,560 Speaker 2: it came to turnovers. 1894 01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,120 Speaker 8: I just I don't want it to be a situation where, 1895 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,720 Speaker 8: you know, maybe Drake May goes out and makes an interception, 1896 01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,519 Speaker 8: and then you pull them and put you back in 1897 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:11,800 Speaker 8: and then you don't see Drake May again. 1898 01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,160 Speaker 2: To the well, certain guys, I don't think they do that. 1899 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:16,920 Speaker 2: I don't think even Bill would have done that if 1900 01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,240 Speaker 2: he was in a position with an. 1901 01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,559 Speaker 4: Overall third pick to do that. 1902 01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,360 Speaker 3: I think he did it with the younger guys who 1903 01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:28,599 Speaker 3: there were other guys to replace him. Yeah, but yeah, 1904 01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:32,920 Speaker 3: I mean Bill was all about the turnovers, all about 1905 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:33,560 Speaker 3: the turnovers. 1906 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,559 Speaker 2: Don't beat yourself, do not beat yourself. 1907 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,960 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, and it's crazy to think too. I mean, 1908 01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,960 Speaker 5: that's got to It had to be pounded into mac 1909 01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,680 Speaker 5: Jones's head. And then by his last year I was 1910 01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:45,040 Speaker 5: turnover city. 1911 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:46,760 Speaker 2: Because he was scrambled eggs by that. 1912 01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:48,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1913 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:49,840 Speaker 6: No, but I know Mike's point too. 1914 01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:54,240 Speaker 4: It's like you, yeah, you're doing it out of fear 1915 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,120 Speaker 4: and all that, and that's and that's one thing. But 1916 01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,200 Speaker 4: are you're taking away a guy's ability because now they're 1917 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,320 Speaker 4: not playing up to their capability because all they worried 1918 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:03,680 Speaker 4: about is holding onto the ball and they are not 1919 01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:04,479 Speaker 4: making any place. 1920 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:09,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's you know, you just you want to get 1921 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,360 Speaker 5: to a place where players can play loose and play 1922 01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,439 Speaker 5: fast and they're not thinking about mistakes or you know, 1923 01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:15,920 Speaker 5: some special teams. 1924 01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 4: What what. 1925 01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:22,599 Speaker 3: I think you know, going back, remember old friend running 1926 01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:27,679 Speaker 3: back Stephen Ridley. Yes, I mean he was a good player, 1927 01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,559 Speaker 3: but I think he turned the ball over so much 1928 01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,679 Speaker 3: that his and he was afraid to do that again. 1929 01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:35,760 Speaker 2: His running style changed. 1930 01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,559 Speaker 4: So that's hurt him. That needed to lose playing time 1931 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:43,080 Speaker 4: because he habitually fumbled, you know, as opposed to reminder 1932 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:50,840 Speaker 4: receivens of putting on the ground once. All right, so 1933 01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,960 Speaker 4: what do we got here? Punt? I would say, they're 1934 01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:56,240 Speaker 4: working on the punt team. 1935 01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:57,479 Speaker 6: Yes, let's let's. 1936 01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:00,479 Speaker 4: Let people know who's back there, return and rager. 1937 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:07,599 Speaker 5: We got we got two three Douglas, one Osborne, Marcus 1938 01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,240 Speaker 5: Jones and Jalen Polk. 1939 01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:16,320 Speaker 7: Got to fight the sun on this one. But this 1940 01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,160 Speaker 7: is the first time I feel like that they've done 1941 01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:19,200 Speaker 7: special teams. 1942 01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've done some technique work, but this is actual 1943 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:27,040 Speaker 4: team special teams and team and and and I think 1944 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:31,439 Speaker 4: it's probably worth noting who's the gunners because Matthew Slater 1945 01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:35,719 Speaker 4: is no longer wearing their uniform anymore. He's playing. 1946 01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,480 Speaker 2: Is he coaching out there? 1947 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:43,479 Speaker 5: Then he's say we're going without gunners. Didn't want they 1948 01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:44,559 Speaker 5: didn't want to tell you, dude. 1949 01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I believe Matthew Slater is wearing a cut off 1950 01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,880 Speaker 7: could he with the bucket hat? 1951 01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:52,559 Speaker 4: Standing right next to. 1952 01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:59,320 Speaker 7: That's Jeremy Springer, right, So I think Jerry Jerry, and 1953 01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:00,840 Speaker 7: then here's Douglas again. 1954 01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:01,479 Speaker 4: Return of them. 1955 01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,120 Speaker 8: So it's interesting to see like what they choose for 1956 01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,759 Speaker 8: Pop Douglas to participate in and then what they choose. 1957 01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:07,160 Speaker 7: To pull him out of. 1958 01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,680 Speaker 4: Nothing competitive, no team period. I mean, could it be 1959 01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,639 Speaker 4: like they the hand is okay to catch the ball, 1960 01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:17,519 Speaker 4: but they don't want to like hit a helmet or something. 1961 01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,880 Speaker 4: And then Burton, I don't know, I'm still I know, 1962 01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,280 Speaker 4: no matter what, the catching that punt doesn't make it. 1963 01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense to make. 1964 01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:26,360 Speaker 8: And I want to go back to to Jalen Rager, 1965 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,200 Speaker 8: you know, catching punts before him. I think Jalen Riger 1966 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,240 Speaker 8: his ability to play special teams and then what he's 1967 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:33,600 Speaker 8: showing us on offense as well the past couple of 1968 01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:35,720 Speaker 8: days is going to give him a strong chance to 1969 01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:36,280 Speaker 8: make their astar. 1970 01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,920 Speaker 4: I'd put him in the you know, after whatever you 1971 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:39,400 Speaker 4: want to call it. 1972 01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,400 Speaker 5: I mean, after ye what we saw from him in 1973 01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,439 Speaker 5: the spring, it's just you know, he's he's showing up, 1974 01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:45,760 Speaker 5: and that's I think all you can really ask. It's, hey, 1975 01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:47,519 Speaker 5: where's this guy been? I haven't seen him make any 1976 01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,400 Speaker 5: catches like you yeah, you know, throwing the ball to him, 1977 01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:51,720 Speaker 5: he's catching it. I don't know he looks. I mean 1978 01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,240 Speaker 5: he's moving pretty well. Yeah, and I will say a 1979 01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:58,280 Speaker 5: number of bombs Barrenger Bomber. 1980 01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,639 Speaker 7: Does when the bads come on. Yeah, he's a fast 1981 01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:04,320 Speaker 7: received and without pass those guys typically are are really good. 1982 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,760 Speaker 7: I mean, even Taekwan's had his moments and these practices. 1983 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,920 Speaker 7: But I'm kind of with Paul, I guess a little 1984 01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,479 Speaker 7: bit that you know, Marcus Jones should be the primary 1985 01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,560 Speaker 7: return guy. Yeah, and both kickoffs and punts. But I 1986 01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,320 Speaker 7: think there is a role for Rager on kickoff return. 1987 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,519 Speaker 4: Yeah. And you made that point the other day about 1988 01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,400 Speaker 4: there's probably gonna be two guys back. Yeah, so yep, probably. 1989 01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:25,360 Speaker 7: Need to and I think too. 1990 01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:27,200 Speaker 8: I mean not saying that Marcus Jones is gonna get 1991 01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,719 Speaker 8: injured again, but injuries happened and he was out pretty 1992 01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,240 Speaker 8: much a majority of last year, and so that prevented 1993 01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:34,600 Speaker 8: that created an opportunity for other guys to step up 1994 01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:35,280 Speaker 8: and play in that role. 1995 01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,719 Speaker 2: Yep. One thing we know for certain, there will be injuries. 1996 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,960 Speaker 5: It is interesting to me though, they got Polk returning 1997 01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,480 Speaker 5: punts like yeah. 1998 01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,760 Speaker 7: I do without him doing that, I can see that 1999 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:54,599 Speaker 7: as like it wasn't they threw back there in years ago. 2000 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,439 Speaker 7: When you every once in a while when there's like 2001 01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,320 Speaker 7: a rash of injuries and on the returners, you know, 2002 01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:01,839 Speaker 7: you get these guys ready to at least get a feel. 2003 01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:03,920 Speaker 2: For it in the summertime, and then and then you 2004 01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,920 Speaker 2: say during the season, well, he returned punts during training camp, 2005 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:08,559 Speaker 2: so he's got a little experience right. 2006 01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,000 Speaker 7: Right right, and he's sure handed and he you know, 2007 01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,360 Speaker 7: he's got good hands and all that, but he's just 2008 01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:15,120 Speaker 7: not going to add any yards, I don't. 2009 01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:18,400 Speaker 5: Think, certainly not the jitterbugged Marcus. 2010 01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, same thing with Osbourne, you know, the same kind 2011 01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:25,200 Speaker 7: of idea. 2012 01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:29,719 Speaker 2: Christian Kolfax, California thinks that Pope reminds him of Keenan Allen. 2013 01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:31,639 Speaker 4: I wish. 2014 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,320 Speaker 7: I think Keenan Allen's a little bit more explosive, a 2015 01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:38,280 Speaker 7: little more dynamic route runner. I still think Tyler Boyd 2016 01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,479 Speaker 7: Jacobe Myers, like those are the two guys that stand 2017 01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,000 Speaker 7: out to me with him. I think that, you know, 2018 01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,960 Speaker 7: the ceiling would be someone in a Keenan Allen mold, 2019 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:47,719 Speaker 7: But that's. 2020 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,840 Speaker 5: Just so smooth, and I don't know, he's just he's 2021 01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,080 Speaker 5: like a route technician. 2022 01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's here. 2023 01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:57,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, like Polk feels more like a physical See. 2024 01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,200 Speaker 2: What they're doing on that far field with the ball, 2025 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,839 Speaker 2: uh loose ball trying to scoop it toward a teammate. 2026 01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, was that. 2027 01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:10,080 Speaker 7: Kind of like down They're not using a football, they're 2028 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:11,439 Speaker 7: using like a like a volleyball. 2029 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,960 Speaker 8: I really do not want her. 2030 01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:20,760 Speaker 2: Here comes that shade again. 2031 01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:23,280 Speaker 4: Good nice. 2032 01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,599 Speaker 2: Quarterbacks are still working on their footwork, kind of rolling 2033 01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,400 Speaker 2: out its hitting a target. 2034 01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:47,080 Speaker 4: Lineman just down there working on lineman dance. 2035 01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:51,519 Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of a lot of bootlegs here for 2036 01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:55,439 Speaker 7: the quarterbacks, both to their arm side and to their 2037 01:34:55,479 --> 01:35:00,920 Speaker 7: non arm side, the non arm side ones are It's 2038 01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:02,479 Speaker 7: gonna be fun with Drake May. 2039 01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:05,919 Speaker 2: All right, that's the end of this period. 2040 01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:08,880 Speaker 5: It does get interesting with me though, like when the 2041 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,120 Speaker 5: plays break down and it's you know a lot of 2042 01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:12,960 Speaker 5: guys just chuck it away, but like he doesn't seem 2043 01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:18,120 Speaker 5: afraid to just you know, wing it, sidearm it. 2044 01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,280 Speaker 7: Chimp up in the air. Like I feel like I've 2045 01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:22,719 Speaker 7: said this a thousand times, but we were not seeing 2046 01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:24,559 Speaker 7: that kind of stuff in practice because that's not what 2047 01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,200 Speaker 7: they want him to do in practice. And that's when 2048 01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,679 Speaker 7: it really you know, maybe in the preseason games or something. 2049 01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:31,880 Speaker 7: There's a whole other dimension to his game that I 2050 01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,720 Speaker 7: feel like we just haven't seen a ton of, because. 2051 01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,799 Speaker 4: It's been interesting if you could ask him that yesterday 2052 01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,800 Speaker 4: instead of finding out about signing autographs in the atmosphere. 2053 01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:42,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, so many of his highlights are just you. 2054 01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:43,880 Speaker 2: Know, critical of the media. 2055 01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:46,000 Speaker 4: Paul I was in the middle of a question and 2056 01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:47,439 Speaker 4: he was whisked away. 2057 01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I see. 2058 01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:54,559 Speaker 4: We're getting a team period here or some. 2059 01:35:54,520 --> 01:36:00,920 Speaker 5: Sort of maybe maybe yeah, but again, no no red 2060 01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:01,479 Speaker 5: zone at all. 2061 01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:07,679 Speaker 7: Well maybe the idea what that is is you start 2062 01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:09,439 Speaker 7: to when you put the pads on, now you can 2063 01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,200 Speaker 7: actually run goal line. That was always a weird thing 2064 01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,400 Speaker 7: to me about them starting in the red zone without pads, 2065 01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,599 Speaker 7: was like you're not running them, like you can't run 2066 01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:17,639 Speaker 7: the ball, right. 2067 01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:19,040 Speaker 4: So it's they're just selling out for the past. 2068 01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:23,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's like they're tracking team periods where they're 2069 01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:28,440 Speaker 7: two for eleven or something terrible. Granted that was warranted 2070 01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,240 Speaker 7: the last couple of years. 2071 01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:36,240 Speaker 2: All right, we're set on seven and seven of the two. 2072 01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:37,639 Speaker 4: Pop. 2073 01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:37,840 Speaker 8: Uh. 2074 01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:45,439 Speaker 2: It looks like they're using sticks and yard markers on 2075 01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,320 Speaker 2: this one. So they're going to move the ball as 2076 01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:51,080 Speaker 2: the play dictates. 2077 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,720 Speaker 7: As these are. They're in third down right now, so 2078 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:58,879 Speaker 7: these are that's like third and short type of situational. 2079 01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:04,040 Speaker 2: Yep, ye build toward eleven and eleven doing the same. 2080 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:07,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, one two Rager. 2081 01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:11,880 Speaker 2: Gibson and the plays broke. 2082 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, nobody opened. 2083 01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:15,519 Speaker 4: Really good coverage on that one. This is like a 2084 01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,439 Speaker 4: day late and short, but that was really good coverage 2085 01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:19,120 Speaker 4: by everybody. 2086 01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,840 Speaker 7: He did catch it, though, It's a nice catch. Austin 2087 01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,240 Speaker 7: Hooper got behind Kyle Duggar. I think Kyle Duggar jumped 2088 01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:28,080 Speaker 7: around underneath just thinking they're going to the sticks. To 2089 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:30,679 Speaker 7: Paul's point, it took seventeen years for to make that round. 2090 01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:32,559 Speaker 4: It was a really nice catch though by Hooper. Yep, 2091 01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,280 Speaker 4: that was not an easy ball to track. Good protection, 2092 01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,280 Speaker 4: you know for a tight end too. Not used to 2093 01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:41,639 Speaker 4: being you know, forty plus yards downfield tracking balls over 2094 01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:42,240 Speaker 4: your shoulder. 2095 01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:46,679 Speaker 5: Speaking of which, I saw my Kasiki made a catch 2096 01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:47,400 Speaker 5: in Bengals camp. 2097 01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,720 Speaker 4: I was reminded last year a couple of catches as 2098 01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,479 Speaker 4: he made, they never really kind of panned out. 2099 01:37:54,400 --> 01:38:00,599 Speaker 5: Uh also saw the Chargers offensive line coach just gushing 2100 01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:01,400 Speaker 5: about Joel Lolt. 2101 01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:04,559 Speaker 7: They're gonna play my right tackle. 2102 01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2103 01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:08,360 Speaker 8: Did you see that video of the cold offensive line 2104 01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:11,679 Speaker 8: that went viral? No, for them like walking out to practice, 2105 01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:14,559 Speaker 8: they like walked out together in a group, like slow motion. 2106 01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:15,040 Speaker 4: It was. 2107 01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:20,479 Speaker 7: It was pretty interesting out to Hunter Henry there simultaneous catch. 2108 01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:22,720 Speaker 7: They're kind of arguing if Dugger had it or if 2109 01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,200 Speaker 7: to the receiver. Yeah, it was a little behind by 2110 01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:27,360 Speaker 7: Coby Brissette. 2111 01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, who was it Dugger? Yep? 2112 01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:42,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, good coverage by Dugger, I thought. 2113 01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:44,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the coverage has been pretty good in 2114 01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:45,719 Speaker 4: the sevens. 2115 01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:46,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree. 2116 01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:50,599 Speaker 4: Usually it's the other way around. You see it as 2117 01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:51,200 Speaker 4: you're getting. 2118 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:55,639 Speaker 7: Openings Khan Boody or is that that's a little bit 2119 01:38:55,640 --> 01:39:05,360 Speaker 7: more for Booty two tight ends. Oh, it's good covered. 2120 01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:10,080 Speaker 4: Rakon he looking for a flag not today. 2121 01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:10,720 Speaker 7: That's a good player. 2122 01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:15,600 Speaker 4: It's like Ray wond Mill and another guy that like 2123 01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:17,760 Speaker 4: you just feel like, Hea, he's gonna make the team. 2124 01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,240 Speaker 5: I don't know what he's gonna do, but he's gonna 2125 01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,000 Speaker 5: be one of those special teams guys too, like like 2126 01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,479 Speaker 5: mac Wilson. But they seem to love him. I mean, 2127 01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:27,000 Speaker 5: was he's only his third contract with the team. He's 2128 01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,400 Speaker 5: got more contracts than games played. 2129 01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:31,960 Speaker 7: I don't absolutely how that works, but like I feel 2130 01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,640 Speaker 7: like they kept signing him to one year deals and 2131 01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,000 Speaker 7: they had to sign him to another one year deal, right, and. 2132 01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,080 Speaker 4: Then he's like like the team's financial advisor. 2133 01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,479 Speaker 7: In the he does a lot of got Javon Baker 2134 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:43,400 Speaker 7: down here. 2135 01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:45,599 Speaker 6: See see what he did? 2136 01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:56,160 Speaker 10: He's sorry under route to k j Osborne, Drake May, 2137 01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,840 Speaker 10: Drake May. It's like Polk is coming in for Juju 2138 01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:06,160 Speaker 10: nas more. I like how they get the rookies paired 2139 01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:09,480 Speaker 10: up now you know they got Polk and Baker with 2140 01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:12,439 Speaker 10: with Drake May. 2141 01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:18,599 Speaker 4: So Mitchell Wilcox is not considered to be an inline blocker, right, 2142 01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:19,759 Speaker 4: I would. 2143 01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,080 Speaker 7: Say that's more of his his. 2144 01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:25,639 Speaker 4: Game, okay, because he does not get open unless unless 2145 01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:30,920 Speaker 4: he's uncovered. There was another death sentence Tavai again. 2146 01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:33,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, May trying to thread the need a little behind 2147 01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,160 Speaker 2: the receiver should have been caught though. 2148 01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:38,320 Speaker 7: Through it behind him on purpose. I think because Giovanni 2149 01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:39,320 Speaker 7: DeFi was about to. 2150 01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:41,960 Speaker 2: He was he would have got killed in a real game. 2151 01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:45,599 Speaker 6: Yeah that was that Gibson. 2152 01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:48,439 Speaker 7: Uh no, it is kJ Osborne. 2153 01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:56,760 Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, well thank you to Drake May for not 2154 01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,120 Speaker 5: putting that out in front of him family thanks. 2155 01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:08,200 Speaker 4: To rights body and rayer. 2156 01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:16,400 Speaker 7: Yep, Michael Peedaway, there you go. 2157 01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:19,559 Speaker 4: Well shall across to Michael peed Away, that's the play 2158 01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,240 Speaker 4: they ran a couple of days ago to jaheem Bell 2159 01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,439 Speaker 4: that I just missed, like connecting. 2160 01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:31,680 Speaker 5: Kind of the Johnny the John New route. Let me 2161 01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:36,120 Speaker 5: have done that the John Why training CAMPAGNT. My apologies 2162 01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:42,280 Speaker 5: makes here last year two years ago, two years ago, 2163 01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:45,040 Speaker 5: two years John two. 2164 01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:45,599 Speaker 4: Years ago. 2165 01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:50,519 Speaker 7: Is in Miami now, yeah, Atlanta. 2166 01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:52,479 Speaker 6: They had a good year in Atlanta last. 2167 01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:53,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think he is Miami. 2168 01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:54,120 Speaker 2: Now. 2169 01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,920 Speaker 7: See this is you know, it's not much to do 2170 01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:02,080 Speaker 7: in this type of drill, but that's gonna be something 2171 01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:05,080 Speaker 7: that they're gonna have to start scripting. Like how when 2172 01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,760 Speaker 7: he breaks the pocket and the play breaks down, where 2173 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:12,000 Speaker 7: are you guys going, because you know, like in Kansas City, 2174 01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,120 Speaker 7: they they have it all mapped out that when my 2175 01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:17,720 Speaker 7: homes breaks contained, you know, this is where our rules are. 2176 01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:19,160 Speaker 7: This is where everybody's gonna go. 2177 01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:26,679 Speaker 4: Joe Milton get something new. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's uh. 2178 01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:29,519 Speaker 2: I would say the offense has not had a good 2179 01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:30,400 Speaker 2: day overall. 2180 01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would agree. 2181 01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:35,320 Speaker 4: Now just a couple of pockets of place here and there. Yeah, 2182 01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:49,720 Speaker 4: can't do that. That's too late, buddy. 2183 01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2184 01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:53,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, So the Jayvon Baker is running across or he 2185 01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:54,800 Speaker 7: did it, did the right thing to sit it down 2186 01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:59,200 Speaker 7: against the zone coverage, but Joe Milton threw way too late. 2187 01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:03,439 Speaker 5: And it's interesting if he stared him down through it. 2188 01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:05,920 Speaker 2: He just told everybody, I'm gonna throw it now right 2189 01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:07,880 Speaker 2: over here, and that's your guy, right, Uh? 2190 01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:12,920 Speaker 5: Is that Joe Giles Harris? Of course not your guy. 2191 01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:14,800 Speaker 5: Don't even thrown Was that your guy? 2192 01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:21,240 Speaker 4: My guy? I think it's your guy. H two four 2193 01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:22,200 Speaker 4: your guy? 2194 01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:30,840 Speaker 7: Rough seventh period here for all three quarterbacks. Yeah, gotta hit. 2195 01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:33,160 Speaker 7: Just a tough rhythm, you know. That's and that's what 2196 01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:34,800 Speaker 7: I feel like with with Milton's. 2197 01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:36,800 Speaker 5: You know, to Tamara's point, the short throws, it's just 2198 01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:40,479 Speaker 5: it's like they don't have rhythm because he throws them hard. 2199 01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:41,400 Speaker 4: Like some of these guys. 2200 01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:43,360 Speaker 5: When you see a short passing rhythm, it's just you 2201 01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:45,360 Speaker 5: feel it, you know, it's he drops back, he hits, 2202 01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:47,439 Speaker 5: he delivers the balls at a good pace and it's right. 2203 01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:50,719 Speaker 5: And with his it's it feels choppy in a different 2204 01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:52,400 Speaker 5: way than it did with Cam Newton or Kim Newton. 2205 01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:53,720 Speaker 5: It just felt like it was always late, and he 2206 01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:55,760 Speaker 5: tried to make up with it, make up for it 2207 01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,080 Speaker 5: with with putting mustard on the on the throw, but 2208 01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:00,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. Sometimes with these it just feels like 2209 01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:04,120 Speaker 5: Builton kind of just loses the timing of the play. 2210 01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,360 Speaker 4: Reset and huddle up again here. This is not a 2211 01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:09,960 Speaker 4: quality end to the period. 2212 01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:12,639 Speaker 7: Here still about thirty twenty five minutes, so. 2213 01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,840 Speaker 4: It's probably gonna be another elevens, I would agree. Did 2214 01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:16,599 Speaker 4: they do two each? 2215 01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:17,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they won't end here. 2216 01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:24,760 Speaker 7: A third down you. 2217 01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:26,360 Speaker 6: Re huddled and still wind up wrong. 2218 01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:30,439 Speaker 5: David Wallace, come on, bra, give you a credit though 2219 01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:32,599 Speaker 5: you got open write a nice. 2220 01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,040 Speaker 7: Out route and out to eighty seven. 2221 01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:37,880 Speaker 4: Mitchell Wilcox, it's been. 2222 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:43,400 Speaker 7: Involved, Mitchell Wilcox. I don't know what to make of it. Yeah, 2223 01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:47,760 Speaker 7: he is somebody that I called his name more than 2224 01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:50,120 Speaker 7: we've called Jamee Bell's name, which I don't love to 2225 01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:50,479 Speaker 7: hear that. 2226 01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,519 Speaker 4: But no, Gen bellspin am I. 2227 01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:57,080 Speaker 2: It comes to the old line from the backfield getting 2228 01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:58,920 Speaker 2: ready to go eleven out of eleven here. 2229 01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,880 Speaker 7: He's listened six four two fifty, so that sounds like 2230 01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:03,559 Speaker 7: a guy that should be able to throw his weight 2231 01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:14,240 Speaker 7: around a little bit. Yeah, headway again. 2232 01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that arm is talented. Yeah, I'm Joezuka, Joe. 2233 01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:26,960 Speaker 7: You can just tell that they hit both him and 2234 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,880 Speaker 7: Drake may love throwing out, you know, because it's just 2235 01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:32,680 Speaker 7: it's easy to read, and they got the arm to 2236 01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:35,519 Speaker 7: get it out there, so it's no hesitation. 2237 01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:37,599 Speaker 6: Easy to read, easy to enjoy. 2238 01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,639 Speaker 8: Right, what do you guys make of Zabie not getting 2239 01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:42,040 Speaker 8: reps in some of these periods. 2240 01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:45,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, he did get He got a couple of sevens 2241 01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:46,200 Speaker 7: right early. 2242 01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:49,519 Speaker 4: Seven. We have seen him been out. 2243 01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:51,120 Speaker 7: It has been passed over since. 2244 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:51,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2245 01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,040 Speaker 3: I think the last time we saw him was that 2246 01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,080 Speaker 3: past where the guy zigged and he thought he's gonna zag. 2247 01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:00,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was since we have not. 2248 01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:03,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think he's probably gonna get a well, 2249 01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:06,559 Speaker 4: I don't know, we'll see. He gets the third one 2250 01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:08,960 Speaker 4: of the team, so they split it up that way. 2251 01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:09,759 Speaker 6: Maybe there's Milton. 2252 01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,360 Speaker 4: You can get a sevens on the first sevens and 2253 01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,640 Speaker 4: then he got the third reps on the team and 2254 01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:21,920 Speaker 4: third rep on this sevens the second one. Yeah, it's 2255 01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:22,519 Speaker 4: interesting to me. 2256 01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:24,360 Speaker 5: Continue to see key on White a lot of just 2257 01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:29,160 Speaker 5: early down reps as an outside linebacker. Yeah, a little 2258 01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,400 Speaker 5: bit interesting to me, just that, you know, Anthrety Jennings 2259 01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:32,640 Speaker 5: not really sniffing any of that. 2260 01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:36,000 Speaker 2: All right, what's our offensive line look like? 2261 01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:44,000 Speaker 7: Same as it's been all Practica Rager Paul Cooper Osborne 2262 01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:46,439 Speaker 7: with Hermandre quarterback on her center. 2263 01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:47,439 Speaker 4: Play action. 2264 01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:48,800 Speaker 7: There it is. 2265 01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:53,720 Speaker 2: There we go. 2266 01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:58,040 Speaker 7: To Austin Hooper, Hooper down the middle, down the scene. 2267 01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:03,280 Speaker 2: Nice play. Judan shot a gap and got picked up. 2268 01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:11,800 Speaker 5: It's probably the best player of the day so far, 2269 01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:14,040 Speaker 5: one of the best of his camp. 2270 01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:17,519 Speaker 4: My whole like that looked like a play. 2271 01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:21,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, Austin Hooper has been had a couple of nice days. 2272 01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:23,360 Speaker 4: He's solid. 2273 01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:39,559 Speaker 7: Henry now Hooper called personnel nub formation, guys. Nu formation 2274 01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:43,519 Speaker 7: is just like kind of a general football term. I 2275 01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:47,559 Speaker 7: don't want to give away too much. Google nub formation 2276 01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:52,320 Speaker 7: and figure it out and u B. But you didn't 2277 01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:55,880 Speaker 7: hear from me, so the case silent. So that was 2278 01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:58,880 Speaker 7: a trap run there, called trap play and they they 2279 01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,599 Speaker 7: will run those, uh you know, to kind of counter 2280 01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:04,240 Speaker 7: off of all the zone stuff. And I thought that 2281 01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:05,479 Speaker 7: hit pretty well City. 2282 01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:09,800 Speaker 4: So I think Jalen Hawkins believes that he made the 2283 01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,680 Speaker 4: tackle with the line of scrimmage. Okay, by the way, 2284 01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:14,320 Speaker 4: look I don't know if that's true. I mean, he 2285 01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:17,680 Speaker 4: just was going like he was celebrating looking at that 2286 01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:19,280 Speaker 4: pole catch from a couple of days ago. 2287 01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:23,920 Speaker 7: What we wanted definitely would have been a sack. I 2288 01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:28,519 Speaker 7: was when they when they put any the line and 2289 01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,719 Speaker 7: the blunder, like if they run any sort of stunt 2290 01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,479 Speaker 7: or blitz or something like that there there we're still 2291 01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,000 Speaker 7: a work in progress. So Daniel Qualley is the one 2292 01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:38,120 Speaker 7: getting the DAPs so looks like he was the one. 2293 01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,559 Speaker 5: Scott Peter's right over to Katon Wallace talking to him 2294 01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:42,559 Speaker 5: a little bit. So I have been back to that, 2295 01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:44,640 Speaker 5: like you know, whether or not the run was successful. 2296 01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:48,360 Speaker 5: Mike and I joke about this all the time in 2297 01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:50,720 Speaker 5: these training camp practices. The defensive guy just go up 2298 01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:53,559 Speaker 5: and they give you a little tap on the hips, right, 2299 01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:56,240 Speaker 5: I'm not necessarily sure you had them. 2300 01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:58,599 Speaker 7: You gotta get him to the ground. That's all different animal. 2301 01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:00,559 Speaker 5: I think though, seeing that video a couple of days 2302 01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,479 Speaker 5: ago Polk's catch, I do think Evan was right that 2303 01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:04,640 Speaker 5: Jalen Hawkins, if he had wanted to in a real game, 2304 01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:06,439 Speaker 5: probably would have sent you on Polkin the next two. 2305 01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:08,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I also think the pass could have been picked off. 2306 01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:11,640 Speaker 7: I just also feel like in that respect, it's like 2307 01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:14,479 Speaker 7: you don't really see safeties get to send guys into 2308 01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,439 Speaker 7: next Tuesday anymore, because I think all the flags will 2309 01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:17,880 Speaker 7: just start. 2310 01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,080 Speaker 4: That's why I think it probably would have been picked up. 2311 01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:23,040 Speaker 4: And I to me, the biggest thing for that was 2312 01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,760 Speaker 4: listening to Drake May talk about the throw after practice. Yeah, 2313 01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:30,040 Speaker 4: that was locked. He was not very complimentary of himself. 2314 01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:32,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, he knew he short armed. 2315 01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:34,400 Speaker 2: It was like they're in a hurry up, right, no 2316 01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:35,960 Speaker 2: or no, I guess not. 2317 01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:39,000 Speaker 7: A little sitting route to Taekwon thor And as a 2318 01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:50,360 Speaker 7: that was a clean pocket, well done, not too. 2319 01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:52,639 Speaker 4: Bad, little maybe a little better here, and he's yeah, yeah. 2320 01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:55,080 Speaker 7: I'd say this is a little smoother. Yeah, got one pressure. 2321 01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:57,479 Speaker 7: But yeah, Jalen Hawkins, I'm sorry, I'm not giving you 2322 01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:57,920 Speaker 7: the benefit. 2323 01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:00,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I mean I'm kind of honest. Ignoring the 2324 01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:04,880 Speaker 4: run play, Yeah, I liked the play down the scene 2325 01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:07,680 Speaker 4: to Hooper. I mean that that was a highlight to me. 2326 01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:11,000 Speaker 4: You can only tell the running plays that we're going nowhere, 2327 01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,200 Speaker 4: and that even that throw to Thornt, now like that 2328 01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:15,559 Speaker 4: was a quick hitter. 2329 01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:21,240 Speaker 7: There's nowhere to run on that play, no way to. 2330 01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:27,240 Speaker 4: Run to baby high. Oh so you can sing, okay, 2331 01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:31,080 Speaker 4: just because I'm all key, Because just because I don't 2332 01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:33,320 Speaker 4: sing well, it doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to sing. 2333 01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:38,720 Speaker 4: All right? The drake is in love the Drake. 2334 01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:43,680 Speaker 2: Alex In Somerset said, you guys recently often refer to 2335 01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:46,160 Speaker 2: some plays in training camp as that looked like an 2336 01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:48,680 Speaker 2: NFL play, Like it's a rare occurrence. 2337 01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:52,400 Speaker 6: It's a weird, weird thing that might only interest me. 2338 01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:55,240 Speaker 2: I'm curious when Brady was that quarterback, did every play 2339 01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,640 Speaker 2: in training camp look like an actual NFL player or 2340 01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:01,519 Speaker 2: were there lulls in training camp as they iron things out? 2341 01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:05,000 Speaker 4: So the reason why it became a thing in the 2342 01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:09,599 Speaker 4: first place, like that's the origin of it, was whenever 2343 01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:13,080 Speaker 4: somebody other than Brady was playing quarterback, how often it 2344 01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,519 Speaker 4: looked like it looks like when Brady played quarterback, So 2345 01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:19,240 Speaker 4: when Garoppolo was in there, or Ryan Mallett was in there, 2346 01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:22,120 Speaker 4: or Rohan Davy whoever was in there when Brady was out, 2347 01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,280 Speaker 4: how often did it look like a Patriots play? 2348 01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:27,800 Speaker 6: Like it always looked like a Patriots play. When Brady 2349 01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:29,879 Speaker 6: was in there for the most part. 2350 01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:33,600 Speaker 7: He was pretty good. I heard Tom Brady. Yeah, he 2351 01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:35,639 Speaker 7: had a big event here for him. 2352 01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:36,639 Speaker 4: What was that? 2353 01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:41,080 Speaker 7: Well, sit Jalen Regar and a nice side arm dropped 2354 01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:42,200 Speaker 7: the platform. 2355 01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:44,519 Speaker 4: I mean that one was like another one you just 2356 01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:45,840 Speaker 4: never see where. It looked like he was just going 2357 01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:47,519 Speaker 4: to throw it to the running back, but then instead 2358 01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:50,240 Speaker 4: he just kind of turned and fired at him. 2359 01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:53,160 Speaker 7: Ye wait tell you there was a no look. 2360 01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:58,240 Speaker 4: Everybody was then, well, didn't need do that in like OTAs. 2361 01:51:57,840 --> 01:51:59,920 Speaker 7: That was supposed to be a screen tight end screen. 2362 01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:00,880 Speaker 7: I got blown up. 2363 01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,240 Speaker 2: May had to throw that one into the ground. 2364 01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:07,320 Speaker 7: He did did. 2365 01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:10,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, and everybody lost their minds. 2366 01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:14,200 Speaker 4: Then it was kind of cool, right, So now now 2367 01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:16,040 Speaker 4: they're cool because we have a guy who does that. 2368 01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:18,920 Speaker 4: They used to be ridiculous, stupid and overrated when Mahomes 2369 01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,360 Speaker 4: said that. Now they're great. Oh you never hear people 2370 01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:23,160 Speaker 4: make fun of Mahome. 2371 01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:24,360 Speaker 6: So the way they gush. 2372 01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:27,040 Speaker 4: Over Mahomes, Yeah they gush over right, you never heard that? 2373 01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:28,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, they say it's great. 2374 01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:32,479 Speaker 4: Okay, so no, no, no, no, people make fun never minds 2375 01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:37,720 Speaker 4: who people make fun of the way they gosh because 2376 01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:41,920 Speaker 4: Mahomes does these routine things and doesn't know. Look, but 2377 01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:43,600 Speaker 4: now we have a guy who does those things, so 2378 01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:44,519 Speaker 4: we'll be excited about it. 2379 01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,240 Speaker 2: I thought we were jealous of Mahomes. 2380 01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:49,439 Speaker 7: I am too. 2381 01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:51,759 Speaker 5: Did you guys see the whole thing with the Raiders 2382 01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:53,200 Speaker 5: where they have like a Kermit the Frog. 2383 01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:58,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I did see that, dude. 2384 01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:03,840 Speaker 7: Why right to Mitchell Wilcox. There was a little bit 2385 01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:04,880 Speaker 7: of separation there. 2386 01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:07,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, that one got away from him. That was that 2387 01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:11,240 Speaker 5: was a bad throw, And I agree you guy was 2388 01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:12,800 Speaker 5: open eighty seven. 2389 01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,559 Speaker 4: That sevensky now, yeah, just I. 2390 01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:20,920 Speaker 7: Think when home stuff though this era, I mean, I 2391 01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,000 Speaker 7: don't know John Elwayne Dan Marino might have been throwing 2392 01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:25,880 Speaker 7: no look passes. I don't know. But I don't think 2393 01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:30,840 Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford deserves the credit for venting to go. He 2394 01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,160 Speaker 7: was the first one that started doing it in this era, 2395 01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:36,040 Speaker 7: and then obviously Mahomes and and other guys have done 2396 01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:39,240 Speaker 7: it now too. But Stafford and the Super Bowl still 2397 01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:43,960 Speaker 7: is the best no look past I've ever seen. And 2398 01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:47,240 Speaker 7: cut to guess who d Keshan Boody. 2399 01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:48,280 Speaker 4: This ad. 2400 01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:53,320 Speaker 2: Could have been a little bit more out front, but picking. 2401 01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:58,840 Speaker 4: Good catch by Booty. Yeah, had to fight off. 2402 01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:04,240 Speaker 5: Uh. John Joe, some secondary hands should be our last 2403 01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:05,320 Speaker 5: play for the Drake. 2404 01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:10,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, let them throw one deep, come on, cowk one guy. 2405 01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:14,599 Speaker 4: Seems like they're doing Thornton's out there and cook one guy. 2406 01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:18,320 Speaker 7: A decent amount of situational stuff here too, you know, 2407 01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:21,639 Speaker 7: quick game, third and short. 2408 01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,360 Speaker 2: Some guys with shorts, some guys with game pants, Paul, 2409 01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:25,519 Speaker 2: Which would you choose if you. 2410 01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:28,080 Speaker 4: Were out there? Shorts? Shorts? 2411 01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:30,400 Speaker 5: Who loves the running of the Jewets, The running of 2412 01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:34,240 Speaker 5: the Jewets. Well, you're not going to get a deep 2413 01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:34,879 Speaker 5: ball there. 2414 01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:38,880 Speaker 7: Kevin Harris. Nice job picking up that stunt though. They 2415 01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:45,840 Speaker 7: picked that one up pretty decent. Not so Drake goes. 2416 01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:48,600 Speaker 4: Three doing that. 2417 01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:53,440 Speaker 5: Three for five sit route to really zaps getting some 2418 01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:54,520 Speaker 5: chances here at the end. 2419 01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:55,840 Speaker 4: Hey, every once in a. 2420 01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:58,080 Speaker 5: While, I'm right, do you think in the know what 2421 01:54:58,120 --> 01:54:59,880 Speaker 5: all tent? They're like, you know, they're just bad. It's 2422 01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:02,120 Speaker 5: like he's third. 2423 01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:05,160 Speaker 4: When they did seven on seven the first time, Yeah, 2424 01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:09,640 Speaker 4: it was Brissett May Zappi. Yeah, And they did team 2425 01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:13,000 Speaker 4: and it was Brissett May Milton. Then they did seven 2426 01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:15,760 Speaker 4: on seven again and it stayed Preset May Milton. And 2427 01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:18,240 Speaker 4: now they're going to another sevens. I mean another full 2428 01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:23,160 Speaker 4: team and that oh bubble. So we're getting twenty nine 2429 01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:25,520 Speaker 4: and there by a lot of a lot of Javon 2430 01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:28,960 Speaker 4: Baker being open in this practice. So if you want 2431 01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:32,160 Speaker 4: some good news on offense, I think that's the takeaway toy. 2432 01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:34,640 Speaker 4: Uh is this is this? 2433 01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:37,320 Speaker 5: Uh Terrell Jennings first kind of team action we've seen 2434 01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:39,320 Speaker 5: him get. He's been a rehab guy, right, Yeah, that 2435 01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:42,880 Speaker 5: sounds right. Yeah, so him getting in there. I think 2436 01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:47,080 Speaker 5: I believe the Jennings family was listening to a previous episode, 2437 01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:51,280 Speaker 5: so good news for them if they're still tuning in. Ah, 2438 01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:55,680 Speaker 5: there's there's Tyrone Wheeley, a left tackle and who do 2439 01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:56,680 Speaker 5: we got over on the other side? 2440 01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:57,560 Speaker 4: Sixty four. 2441 01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:06,240 Speaker 2: Juri Henry ah Slater family helping out with special teams. 2442 01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:12,200 Speaker 4: Yo, and Terrell Jennings gets a carry. Oh he gone, 2443 01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:15,000 Speaker 4: and he's gone. He could go all the way. Nice run. 2444 01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:19,200 Speaker 4: This is stupid. You guys can tease me about this later. 2445 01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:21,080 Speaker 4: But then he did kind of look fast on that. 2446 01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:25,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, we haven't even seen him yet. 2447 01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:27,520 Speaker 4: Now he's a big boy, right, like he's got some 2448 01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:28,160 Speaker 4: decent size. 2449 01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:28,960 Speaker 7: I believe. 2450 01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:38,720 Speaker 5: Sounds right if I'm remembered for referring kicker friends are 2451 01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:43,960 Speaker 5: just here down here working on looking on their social game. 2452 01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:45,800 Speaker 5: Yeah right, scrolling. 2453 01:56:48,160 --> 01:57:03,160 Speaker 9: Zappy Oh in. 2454 01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:07,360 Speaker 5: Some crowd he get it in there a little scary 2455 01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:09,760 Speaker 5: threw it into the mesh point. 2456 01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:14,720 Speaker 4: How many games to Billy? 2457 01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:16,920 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, what was what was that? 2458 01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:17,160 Speaker 4: Mike? 2459 01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:19,200 Speaker 7: They're making fun of me? What was that? 2460 01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:19,400 Speaker 2: Mike? 2461 01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:19,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. 2462 01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:22,800 Speaker 5: I wish Fred not me. I'm just I'm just watching. 2463 01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:25,960 Speaker 5: I'm just watching the difference with Bailey's appy out there. 2464 01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:29,520 Speaker 5: And how do we watch games with him starting this year? 2465 01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:33,400 Speaker 8: How do we watch games with Mac Jones starting? 2466 01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:33,600 Speaker 4: Mac? 2467 01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:36,560 Speaker 5: Poor Mac gotta he got he got a pick on 2468 01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:39,800 Speaker 5: social media going around. 2469 01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:41,320 Speaker 4: Down in Jackson. 2470 01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:44,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, updates from training camp for him are just very accurate. 2471 01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:48,840 Speaker 6: I'll tell you the center. Who is the center? 2472 01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:56,360 Speaker 4: And this uh yuh might be Mafi. He is struggling. 2473 01:57:57,360 --> 01:58:00,200 Speaker 4: Every snap has been off target out of these, I 2474 01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:03,520 Speaker 4: don't care. 2475 01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:06,200 Speaker 5: Which again, it's like, you know, he's playing next to 2476 01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:09,680 Speaker 5: the under after rookie there. Charles Turner, who I don't 2477 01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:11,320 Speaker 5: know if I've even seen him snap the ball yet. 2478 01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:17,040 Speaker 4: He was help Leu's use center last year. Get my owner. 2479 01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:19,280 Speaker 5: If Jake Anders would would fit into this mix, if 2480 01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:23,680 Speaker 5: when he's able to get back out here, all right, 2481 01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:32,760 Speaker 5: ZAPPI still going pet Way Wallace Jennings at running bags. 2482 01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:38,280 Speaker 5: Opportunity is kind of all He's the kind of opportunity 2483 01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:39,760 Speaker 5: reps across the board, even though you grow. 2484 01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:41,240 Speaker 4: Pepper's out there, you know, just set in the town. 2485 01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:44,920 Speaker 4: That's a good okay. I think that would be the 2486 01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:47,480 Speaker 4: last rep I got five each. 2487 01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:51,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, let me go through one more time, maybe just 2488 01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:51,760 Speaker 7: for fun. 2489 01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:58,040 Speaker 4: Well, it's sounding looks like they might get another rep 2490 01:58:58,240 --> 01:58:59,520 Speaker 4: high five and people like. 2491 01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:04,960 Speaker 2: They just congratulating each other surviving a practice. 2492 01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:08,000 Speaker 6: You make fun of me. You have a lot of 2493 01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:09,240 Speaker 6: sidecast to your game. 2494 01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:16,920 Speaker 7: Girod Mayo is U is not signaling them to head 2495 01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:17,800 Speaker 7: to the hill or anything. 2496 01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:20,480 Speaker 4: I'm not sure they're done. I don't think they are. 2497 01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:22,080 Speaker 2: They might go to one fifteen today. 2498 01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:23,040 Speaker 4: They're milling. 2499 01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:26,000 Speaker 7: Looks like Jacoe Brossett is going to get another run. 2500 01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:29,360 Speaker 7: He's talking to Alex van Pelt at the moment, starting 2501 01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:30,920 Speaker 7: defens around there. 2502 01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:34,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, they still don't run it again. I cauld 2503 01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:39,000 Speaker 4: stand the wonderf they'll do nub formation again. That'd be fun. 2504 01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:43,320 Speaker 7: Team USA has pulled away for a twenty one point 2505 01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:47,920 Speaker 7: lead in the fourth quarter. Rest of the world's catching up. 2506 01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:50,240 Speaker 2: Is this still the group stage or what do we do? 2507 01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,560 Speaker 7: This is their first game against Serbia, who has Nikola 2508 01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:53,560 Speaker 7: Jokic on their team. 2509 01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:55,200 Speaker 4: Never never lose that snart. 2510 01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:57,840 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I heard u. I heard Serbia at the 2511 01:59:57,880 --> 01:59:59,480 Speaker 7: best player in the world was really catching up to 2512 01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:06,879 Speaker 7: USA twenty one point, coasting to a win. Here we're 2513 02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:11,840 Speaker 7: walking through or so we are done one for one, 2514 02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:14,760 Speaker 7: we are done. 2515 02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:16,920 Speaker 4: Oh, he's just doing one play. 2516 02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:17,320 Speaker 2: That's it. 2517 02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:22,960 Speaker 4: One play to come. Oh, that was almost an unbelievable 2518 02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:27,160 Speaker 4: one handed catch by that equipment guy who kind of 2519 02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:31,320 Speaker 4: looks like he's stacked the tall the guy in the blue. Yeah, 2520 02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:34,840 Speaker 4: May's out there now. Is everybody gonna just run one plane? 2521 02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:34,960 Speaker 2: Now? 2522 02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:37,720 Speaker 4: I think they might be installing a play. 2523 02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:43,120 Speaker 2: It's like call your favorite play for each quarterback. So 2524 02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:45,600 Speaker 2: what's what's Drake May's favorite play? We'll see right now. 2525 02:00:45,680 --> 02:01:03,040 Speaker 2: So motion to the left, he shotgun and he throws 2526 02:01:03,040 --> 02:01:03,400 Speaker 2: it out. 2527 02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:07,200 Speaker 4: It's the thing with Nick Levertto. 2528 02:01:07,240 --> 02:01:09,640 Speaker 5: He's another guy that I feel like with him snapping 2529 02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:13,200 Speaker 5: second string, He's got a lot of interior kind of 2530 02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:19,960 Speaker 5: swing versatility. How he's gonna fit in with Mafi And now. 2531 02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:31,040 Speaker 11: Zach, So one play each, get one play, gotta lose yourself. 2532 02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:34,720 Speaker 4: You're gonna get one shot, you know, one opportunity. 2533 02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:35,120 Speaker 6: I got it. 2534 02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:38,200 Speaker 4: I got it. Matt Morele is banging heads downstairs right now. 2535 02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:46,160 Speaker 4: That's all he needs. Happy holding it complete and. 2536 02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:51,600 Speaker 5: They have a convoy, so you'll go, all right, here 2537 02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:51,880 Speaker 5: we go. 2538 02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:54,080 Speaker 4: I think we were wrong last practice. Two guys. 2539 02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:56,080 Speaker 6: Everybody had sly for this one. 2540 02:01:56,160 --> 02:02:04,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't see with our our angle. So let's see. 2541 02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:07,520 Speaker 2: If the season started today, who's your kicker? 2542 02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:12,800 Speaker 7: Sly Ty goes to the incumbent. 2543 02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:17,000 Speaker 4: I think they probably want Ryland to win the job. Yeah, 2544 02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:21,120 Speaker 4: and they haven't really done anything yet, so I would 2545 02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:22,800 Speaker 4: go with Ryland. 2546 02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:25,920 Speaker 5: No, it's funny because they're not really are They not 2547 02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:28,360 Speaker 5: playing the music for the kickers now, So I mean 2548 02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:30,040 Speaker 5: that used to be when we get some atmosphere, a 2549 02:02:30,040 --> 02:02:32,040 Speaker 5: little pressure here at. 2550 02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:34,120 Speaker 7: The end, but to be fair, usually is silent when 2551 02:02:34,120 --> 02:02:34,560 Speaker 7: they kicks. 2552 02:02:36,920 --> 02:02:40,280 Speaker 4: All right, So Slies going first from Ditrich wise Lake 2553 02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:42,520 Speaker 4: getting out thirty four left. 2554 02:02:42,280 --> 02:02:46,640 Speaker 7: Hack guys, oh off the upright and no good good 2555 02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:50,480 Speaker 7: from how long thirty three thirty four? 2556 02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:56,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think thirty four from the left this time 2557 02:02:56,200 --> 02:03:03,800 Speaker 5: slies going first, that was Sly, Yeah, I thought that 2558 02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:07,320 Speaker 5: was Rylan. Now it's Ryland here, No, I know this 2559 02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:11,320 Speaker 5: is Ryland. I thought the first one was Ryland. Okay, 2560 02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:12,040 Speaker 5: you might be right. 2561 02:03:12,120 --> 02:03:17,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. That looked bad too. I don't know. 2562 02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:19,760 Speaker 7: I don't know if that went in. It's so hard 2563 02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:20,680 Speaker 7: to see from this angle. 2564 02:03:24,520 --> 02:03:30,000 Speaker 4: All right. So now now we're doing the rights coming 2565 02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:30,600 Speaker 4: off the field. 2566 02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:31,480 Speaker 2: Here, who. 2567 02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:42,080 Speaker 4: Secn me something to eighty two? You see the guy 2568 02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:49,480 Speaker 4: that got lit up? Yeah, yeah, eighty two, he's the 2569 02:03:49,480 --> 02:03:50,400 Speaker 4: guy that got lit up. 2570 02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:56,080 Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know about that one either, No high facts. 2571 02:03:56,080 --> 02:03:57,080 Speaker 5: I think Slim is that one. 2572 02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:02,920 Speaker 4: And now r Island from the right hash thirty four 2573 02:04:03,080 --> 02:04:04,000 Speaker 4: yard attempt. 2574 02:04:06,440 --> 02:04:10,120 Speaker 5: I can't even I can't even alreadycord this. I can't 2575 02:04:10,120 --> 02:04:10,840 Speaker 5: tell if they're good. 2576 02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:15,840 Speaker 7: I know, I just have Barth tell me after practice with. 2577 02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:18,000 Speaker 4: The hang times no offense. But I don't trust anybody 2578 02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:18,840 Speaker 4: to be honest with her. 2579 02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:22,040 Speaker 5: I don't even know about that from this angle, I can't. Yeah, 2580 02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:23,920 Speaker 5: you know, it's really hard to tell. 2581 02:04:24,040 --> 02:04:26,480 Speaker 8: And I just I don't see anyone like high fiving 2582 02:04:26,960 --> 02:04:29,800 Speaker 8: no either, So like it's just hard to tell if 2583 02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:31,160 Speaker 8: he if it went. 2584 02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:31,400 Speaker 5: Through or not. 2585 02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:35,680 Speaker 2: Well, the foot to ball speed looked at, but. 2586 02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:39,840 Speaker 8: The body language and like no one acknowledging it is weird. 2587 02:04:40,240 --> 02:04:43,040 Speaker 5: Now we're going forty yards from the left hash Joey 2588 02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:43,880 Speaker 5: slide back up? 2589 02:04:53,200 --> 02:04:58,880 Speaker 4: What's up? And it's something? Yeah, I don't know. 2590 02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:00,720 Speaker 5: I mean they kick you in the hole, older high 2591 02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:02,880 Speaker 5: five after everyone, So I don't know. 2592 02:05:03,280 --> 02:05:04,320 Speaker 7: It's up in the air. 2593 02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:09,920 Speaker 5: Made the rops here, yeah, or at least teacher wise 2594 02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:11,000 Speaker 5: used to help us out with this. 2595 02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:15,440 Speaker 4: Eric Alexander and the way back between used to be 2596 02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:24,440 Speaker 4: good at that too. I'm gonna give him that one. Yeah, 2597 02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:29,320 Speaker 4: all right, A lot of the guys are heading out 2598 02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:31,520 Speaker 4: of the field right, so head down to the hills. 2599 02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:35,480 Speaker 2: We're gonna put our camera on the hill while we 2600 02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:38,040 Speaker 2: wait for Gerard Mayo because we're gonna interview Gerard Mayo 2601 02:05:38,120 --> 02:05:41,200 Speaker 2: after practice. Tamara's teeing up for that. You're ready for that? 2602 02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:41,920 Speaker 7: I am. 2603 02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. You get some good questions lined up. Okay, it 2604 02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:49,000 Speaker 2: should be fun here. 2605 02:05:49,000 --> 02:05:51,440 Speaker 5: He's got a few training camp practices under his belt. 2606 02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:54,680 Speaker 5: I'm sure he's excited though, for a little little pads tomorrow. 2607 02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:58,560 Speaker 5: All football players get excited the crack of the pads. 2608 02:05:58,680 --> 02:05:59,680 Speaker 7: He once played football. 2609 02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:00,200 Speaker 4: That's true. 2610 02:06:00,200 --> 02:06:02,000 Speaker 2: I've heard that all at Tennessee. 2611 02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:06,040 Speaker 7: He docked the line a volunteer, if you will. I 2612 02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:09,680 Speaker 7: think he wore the same number as Joe Joe Milton. 2613 02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:12,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, is that like a special number down there? 2614 02:06:12,920 --> 02:06:18,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, specially we're still going here kickers. 2615 02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:21,400 Speaker 7: So maybe it was a tie. Then maybe this is 2616 02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:27,320 Speaker 7: the tie breaker. Loser does carries the pads. I think 2617 02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:27,880 Speaker 7: that went in. 2618 02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:30,080 Speaker 2: Well. 2619 02:06:30,120 --> 02:06:31,400 Speaker 7: Check he's getting some dawns. 2620 02:06:31,480 --> 02:06:32,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. Check. 2621 02:06:32,760 --> 02:06:35,480 Speaker 2: I think we do know about Ryland. He's got a leg. 2622 02:06:35,880 --> 02:06:37,000 Speaker 2: He can he can go. 2623 02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:40,000 Speaker 4: Too, ye see him be. 2624 02:06:42,040 --> 02:06:42,960 Speaker 2: He's know Nick Folk? 2625 02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:46,480 Speaker 4: Nick Folk? Is he the kicker again this year in Tennessee? 2626 02:06:47,160 --> 02:06:51,200 Speaker 4: I believe so. Yeah, jeez, it's great. It's great stuff, 2627 02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:52,080 Speaker 4: great story. 2628 02:06:55,560 --> 02:06:58,680 Speaker 2: So we're waiting for a Drid Mayo. I'm sure he's 2629 02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:01,000 Speaker 2: down by the hills with the rest of the team. 2630 02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:04,320 Speaker 4: So Austin Hooper fred is the guy that I noticed today. 2631 02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:07,400 Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, he had a handful of catches. 2632 02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:08,400 Speaker 4: I thought. 2633 02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:12,800 Speaker 7: Him and Javon Baker. If you want some offensive standouts, 2634 02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:16,240 Speaker 7: Baker I thought was open the entire practice, uh, one 2635 02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:20,000 Speaker 7: on ones and during team periods. But yeah, Austin Hooper, 2636 02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:24,840 Speaker 7: Jalen Rager, Booty had some. He had some one on 2637 02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:27,880 Speaker 7: ones Yep, in not a good way. I think who 2638 02:07:27,920 --> 02:07:31,720 Speaker 7: has been consistently rough the past few days is juju. Yeah, 2639 02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:34,960 Speaker 7: it's like when you're given very little reps as it 2640 02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:37,880 Speaker 7: is because that room is so big and so many 2641 02:07:37,880 --> 02:07:40,920 Speaker 7: people competing for the roster spot. It's like when I 2642 02:07:40,960 --> 02:07:43,200 Speaker 7: look at his tape from the past three four days, 2643 02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:44,360 Speaker 7: you see a bunch of drops. 2644 02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:50,320 Speaker 2: It's not so you can see the Patriots running the hills. 2645 02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:53,040 Speaker 3: And you might have heard about the hills, but I'm 2646 02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:56,520 Speaker 3: not sure a lot of fans may have heard, but 2647 02:07:56,640 --> 02:07:58,280 Speaker 3: I'm not sure a lot of fans out there have 2648 02:07:58,400 --> 02:07:59,920 Speaker 3: actually seen the hell. 2649 02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:02,040 Speaker 2: So here's your opportunity to do that. 2650 02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:04,000 Speaker 4: It starts off a little flat and then all at 2651 02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:05,320 Speaker 4: the end it tails up. Yeah. 2652 02:08:05,320 --> 02:08:08,000 Speaker 2: Well there's two of them. There's one that's a little 2653 02:08:08,400 --> 02:08:10,560 Speaker 2: steeper at the end, and then there's one that's a 2654 02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:14,480 Speaker 2: it's more of a steady incline raised up a little. 2655 02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:19,280 Speaker 5: It's the worst part of every sport, right sprints, just 2656 02:08:19,560 --> 02:08:21,040 Speaker 5: conditioning at the end of practice. 2657 02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:22,440 Speaker 2: Oh God, I hated it. 2658 02:08:23,080 --> 02:08:25,480 Speaker 7: I used to hate ending in well, we used to 2659 02:08:25,520 --> 02:08:27,240 Speaker 7: call them suicides. I don't know what they're called. Now 2660 02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:30,480 Speaker 7: that was the worst. 2661 02:08:32,080 --> 02:08:35,040 Speaker 2: Let's say that line touches in basketball. 2662 02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:38,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, but you also have the flat the flat land 2663 02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:43,880 Speaker 5: group here seam Wade among others up top running without 2664 02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:44,480 Speaker 5: the hill. 2665 02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:47,480 Speaker 7: And then I see some biking. I see some biking, 2666 02:08:47,560 --> 02:08:51,400 Speaker 7: I see some rap work work some peloton. Yeah no, 2667 02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:53,880 Speaker 7: they're one of those bikes that has like the arms too, 2668 02:08:54,480 --> 02:08:57,840 Speaker 7: so not like a peloton. It sounds like a hybrid 2669 02:08:57,920 --> 02:09:01,120 Speaker 7: of like an elliptical flash. That's exactly what it is. 2670 02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:09,560 Speaker 5: I wonder what one does to get into the flat 2671 02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:12,640 Speaker 5: field running group instead of like the hell's too much 2672 02:09:12,680 --> 02:09:13,240 Speaker 5: for these guys? 2673 02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:16,080 Speaker 4: Or do you think, oh wait, this is crazy. 2674 02:09:16,720 --> 02:09:19,000 Speaker 5: I know they monitor all these guys in real time 2675 02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:21,040 Speaker 5: about how much they're doing. Do you think it's possible 2676 02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:23,640 Speaker 5: that they say, you got a lot of work today, 2677 02:09:23,640 --> 02:09:25,160 Speaker 5: you're not on the hill something like that. I mean, 2678 02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:28,840 Speaker 5: do they dial back specific guys who specifically ran more 2679 02:09:28,880 --> 02:09:32,000 Speaker 5: than anybody else? I mean, I don't know, just toss 2680 02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:32,760 Speaker 5: some ideas out there. 2681 02:09:32,960 --> 02:09:35,800 Speaker 4: So I would think all the DB's and wide receivers 2682 02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:39,360 Speaker 4: would be doing that. Then not necessarily, David Andrews. 2683 02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:45,360 Speaker 7: I have the offense with seven successful plays to fifteen, 2684 02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:49,720 Speaker 7: but Jakob Brissett and Drake May quarterback, so actually a 2685 02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:51,960 Speaker 7: little bit more even day, I would say than the 2686 02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:54,040 Speaker 7: last couple of days I've had, but not a whole 2687 02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:56,120 Speaker 7: lot going down the field for the offense. We had 2688 02:09:56,640 --> 02:09:59,640 Speaker 7: a bunch of short passes to make up those seven 2689 02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:01,720 Speaker 7: positive plays. 2690 02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:01,880 Speaker 5: But. 2691 02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:06,160 Speaker 7: Maybe a little bit more, a little bit more even. 2692 02:10:06,240 --> 02:10:07,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I think the thing for me too is 2693 02:10:07,800 --> 02:10:11,240 Speaker 5: that they're just this sense of angst from the players 2694 02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:14,360 Speaker 5: so far, like the offensive players, like there was the 2695 02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:16,760 Speaker 5: last couple of years when we'd watched these practices and 2696 02:10:17,480 --> 02:10:17,680 Speaker 5: you know. 2697 02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:20,120 Speaker 4: Similarly unproductive. 2698 02:10:20,160 --> 02:10:21,680 Speaker 5: I mean, for me, I look back at those practices, 2699 02:10:21,720 --> 02:10:23,920 Speaker 5: I remember a lot of well they had like two 2700 02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:28,040 Speaker 5: nice contested fades in the end zone to Devonte Parker, 2701 02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:30,040 Speaker 5: you know, like those were that was kind of what 2702 02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:32,240 Speaker 5: you would hang your hat on. Whereas you know, now 2703 02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:34,840 Speaker 5: it's just I don't know, that's what all monitors I mean, 2704 02:10:35,160 --> 02:10:38,080 Speaker 5: seems like the offensive coaches and players still seem pretty 2705 02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:42,920 Speaker 5: positive about what they're doing that thus far, despite not 2706 02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:46,200 Speaker 5: a lot of on field results that we've been gushing over. 2707 02:10:46,840 --> 02:10:48,320 Speaker 4: Sporadic plays here and then. 2708 02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:52,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, the old paulism. I mean like when you hit 2709 02:10:52,240 --> 02:10:54,640 Speaker 7: the play to Austin Hooper. You know, those types of 2710 02:10:54,680 --> 02:10:57,640 Speaker 7: plays do give you some confidence that some things are 2711 02:10:57,640 --> 02:11:00,320 Speaker 7: starting to come together. And I would also say that 2712 02:11:00,400 --> 02:11:04,160 Speaker 7: it's it's positive that the offensive line decided to settle 2713 02:11:04,240 --> 02:11:05,640 Speaker 7: down a little bit. They were better a couple of 2714 02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:08,560 Speaker 7: days and you see, you know, that same five out 2715 02:11:08,600 --> 02:11:11,960 Speaker 7: there with Jakobe Brissett. Maybe that does build some continuity 2716 02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:15,680 Speaker 7: and you're able to be a little bit more buttoned up. 2717 02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:18,280 Speaker 7: But I thought they were at times. They still allowed 2718 02:11:18,360 --> 02:11:22,520 Speaker 7: some pressures, you know, Dietrich Wise Godshaw had one, Daniel 2719 02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:25,840 Speaker 7: Qualley had one in there somewhere. But in general I 2720 02:11:25,880 --> 02:11:27,320 Speaker 7: thought that they were a little bit better today. 2721 02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:35,440 Speaker 5: Still working on the hills, Yeah yeah, but I do 2722 02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:38,040 Speaker 5: think we get back tomorrow and it's the same starting 2723 02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:42,400 Speaker 5: five along the offensive line in pads, that that. 2724 02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:45,400 Speaker 4: Probably be it, And aren't you expecting that at this point? 2725 02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:47,840 Speaker 8: I kind of help, which is good because I really 2726 02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:50,160 Speaker 8: don't want them to be still trying to figure that out. 2727 02:11:50,320 --> 02:11:52,600 Speaker 8: You know, the third preseason game, I'd rather than figure 2728 02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:53,560 Speaker 8: out sooner rather than later. 2729 02:11:53,720 --> 02:11:57,200 Speaker 7: They buy Yeah, they got they got it. 2730 02:11:57,200 --> 02:11:59,400 Speaker 4: They got to test it against real fire right. Yeah, 2731 02:11:59,600 --> 02:12:01,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. Fred, You've been telling me they've had 2732 02:12:01,400 --> 02:12:04,240 Speaker 4: hundreds of days of work. I mean, how many days 2733 02:12:04,280 --> 02:12:04,600 Speaker 4: they need? 2734 02:12:07,400 --> 02:12:08,280 Speaker 2: You know, it's teaching. 2735 02:12:08,520 --> 02:12:11,000 Speaker 4: He's too easy. Fred's paying himself in the corner with it. 2736 02:12:13,080 --> 02:12:15,760 Speaker 6: I mean they've been added since like early one. 2737 02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:17,560 Speaker 5: That's a friend's going to lead off the questioning with 2738 02:12:17,640 --> 02:12:20,520 Speaker 5: MAO is he's just going to finger wagon? Well? 2739 02:12:20,600 --> 02:12:24,800 Speaker 4: Actually it's actually wow. 2740 02:12:24,920 --> 02:12:26,680 Speaker 2: Do those practices counter not? 2741 02:12:27,360 --> 02:12:32,280 Speaker 5: You know, have you guys been catching anything else going 2742 02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:34,720 Speaker 5: on at any other camps or I really have not 2743 02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:35,600 Speaker 5: all I. 2744 02:12:35,640 --> 02:12:39,440 Speaker 7: Have thoroughly been enjoying J. J McCarthy throwing pick sixes. 2745 02:12:39,560 --> 02:12:40,600 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, thoroughly. 2746 02:12:40,720 --> 02:12:42,040 Speaker 4: Oh really, I have not seen that. 2747 02:12:42,680 --> 02:12:45,360 Speaker 7: There are some clips going around of him making some 2748 02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:49,040 Speaker 7: good throws too. I'll be fair, but oh yeah, they're 2749 02:12:49,080 --> 02:12:50,800 Speaker 7: picking on poor JJ in Minnesota. 2750 02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:54,919 Speaker 2: Should the Cincinnati Bengals be considered one of the NFL's 2751 02:12:54,960 --> 02:12:55,720 Speaker 2: elite teams? 2752 02:12:56,200 --> 02:12:58,160 Speaker 6: No, what do you consider elite? 2753 02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:00,800 Speaker 2: Like you know, super bottom mat super Bowl content? 2754 02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:03,680 Speaker 4: They're a Super Bowl content? I agree, Yes, Okay, I 2755 02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:07,680 Speaker 4: know everybody hates Cincinnati and for obvious reasons within our building. 2756 02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:09,760 Speaker 4: You're not the only one that said something like that. 2757 02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:10,040 Speaker 1: To me. 2758 02:13:10,360 --> 02:13:12,920 Speaker 4: But yes, they're one of the better teams in the league. 2759 02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:15,880 Speaker 4: But I mean, I don't I wouldn't put them with 2760 02:13:16,280 --> 02:13:19,760 Speaker 4: like San Francisco in Kansas City right now. 2761 02:13:20,680 --> 02:13:22,160 Speaker 6: They have to be more consistent. 2762 02:13:22,520 --> 02:13:24,280 Speaker 4: So are they're they're really good? 2763 02:13:24,280 --> 02:13:26,120 Speaker 2: Are we all going to stay up for Gerard? People 2764 02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:26,560 Speaker 2: going down? 2765 02:13:26,600 --> 02:13:27,000 Speaker 7: What do we do? 2766 02:13:27,440 --> 02:13:30,000 Speaker 4: I thought if you you and Tamara are gonna stay 2767 02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:32,640 Speaker 4: do the interview, I'll wait and you guys can go 2768 02:13:32,720 --> 02:13:34,920 Speaker 4: down now, I'll wait and tap dance with you for 2769 02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:37,120 Speaker 4: lack of a better term. Okay, so we don't have 2770 02:13:37,240 --> 02:13:39,720 Speaker 4: to just, you know, kind of sit around and wait 2771 02:13:39,760 --> 02:13:41,960 Speaker 4: and when Gerard comes over, I'll leave the interview to 2772 02:13:42,040 --> 02:13:45,480 Speaker 4: the professionals. How's that is that a plan? 2773 02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:46,320 Speaker 7: Sounds sounds good? 2774 02:13:46,520 --> 02:13:48,040 Speaker 4: I got to go to talk to somebody down there. 2775 02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:51,080 Speaker 7: So that somebody is probably Pep. It's going to run 2776 02:13:51,120 --> 02:13:52,120 Speaker 7: and chase you down. 2777 02:13:53,080 --> 02:13:55,120 Speaker 4: Legally, I'm not allowed within twenty feet. 2778 02:13:55,040 --> 02:13:58,200 Speaker 7: Hi p, Hi PEP. Big fan of your contract. Glad 2779 02:13:58,240 --> 02:13:58,879 Speaker 7: you're sticking. 2780 02:13:58,680 --> 02:14:01,400 Speaker 6: Around a little something to the effort. I got you 2781 02:14:01,480 --> 02:14:07,400 Speaker 6: half of that, all right? 2782 02:14:10,680 --> 02:14:13,200 Speaker 4: All right? So what do you uh, what do you 2783 02:14:13,360 --> 02:14:15,840 Speaker 4: want to talk about with girod MAO? I mean beyond, 2784 02:14:16,040 --> 02:14:19,520 Speaker 4: you know, like his impressions here. Obviously we're gonna first 2785 02:14:19,560 --> 02:14:20,680 Speaker 4: four days under your belt. 2786 02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:24,240 Speaker 3: Well, I would like to know if there's anything specific 2787 02:14:24,320 --> 02:14:27,360 Speaker 3: that he tells his team to be ready for pads tomorrow. 2788 02:14:28,120 --> 02:14:30,360 Speaker 3: You know, is there something Is there a message that 2789 02:14:30,640 --> 02:14:33,120 Speaker 3: have on my list? Yeah, that he's giving the guys, 2790 02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:35,920 Speaker 3: like how to mentally prepare for tomorrow. 2791 02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:37,160 Speaker 4: Can we ask for a little bit of a sneak 2792 02:14:37,200 --> 02:14:38,680 Speaker 4: peek of what we might see tomorrow? 2793 02:14:38,840 --> 02:14:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do that. 2794 02:14:41,560 --> 02:14:42,400 Speaker 6: I'd appreciate that. 2795 02:14:42,760 --> 02:14:45,480 Speaker 2: I think I think the answer is what we've already seen. 2796 02:14:45,560 --> 02:14:46,600 Speaker 2: But you just have pads on. 2797 02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:49,000 Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm I'm asking like, are we going to 2798 02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:52,200 Speaker 4: see So you think nothing will change? No, okay, that's 2799 02:14:52,320 --> 02:14:54,560 Speaker 4: just my opinion. I mean, yeah, that's an answer. Yeah, 2800 02:14:56,800 --> 02:14:59,280 Speaker 4: I was hoping to see a little contact. 2801 02:14:59,600 --> 02:15:02,440 Speaker 2: Well, no, you'll see contact. Yeah, absolutely, that's the change. 2802 02:15:03,040 --> 02:15:06,919 Speaker 2: It's pads. But in terms of the structure of the practice, 2803 02:15:07,040 --> 02:15:08,000 Speaker 2: I think it'll be the same. 2804 02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:11,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I meant like what actually they're doing, not 2805 02:15:11,440 --> 02:15:13,600 Speaker 4: necessarily how they're doing. They're going to do it. You're right, 2806 02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:15,160 Speaker 4: you're going to do it the same way they've done 2807 02:15:15,200 --> 02:15:18,680 Speaker 4: it the first four days, which I keep saying like 2808 02:15:18,760 --> 02:15:21,800 Speaker 4: it's football, right, it's football practice. Like you go around 2809 02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:26,000 Speaker 4: the NFL and there's different times doing this. They do things, 2810 02:15:26,200 --> 02:15:28,200 Speaker 4: you know, a little bit differently than Bill did. But 2811 02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:31,440 Speaker 4: Bill did seven on seven, Bill did eleven on eleven. 2812 02:15:31,600 --> 02:15:35,280 Speaker 2: You know like this, not like this strange you build 2813 02:15:35,360 --> 02:15:36,600 Speaker 2: up toward eleven on eleven. 2814 02:15:36,720 --> 02:15:39,280 Speaker 4: Right, the stuff you do before practice in a walkthrough 2815 02:15:39,320 --> 02:15:41,040 Speaker 4: setting is the stuff that you're going to be doing 2816 02:15:41,120 --> 02:15:51,480 Speaker 4: when you're doing it against the defense. Yep. Ah, it's 2817 02:15:51,480 --> 02:15:53,720 Speaker 4: a good, solid crowd today. I mean I was hoping 2818 02:15:53,800 --> 02:15:55,720 Speaker 4: on Sunday that we'd see some people, and there were 2819 02:15:55,760 --> 02:15:59,080 Speaker 4: definitely a few more people here today than there were 2820 02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:01,880 Speaker 4: on interest on Wednesday. 2821 02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:04,680 Speaker 8: I'll be interested to see how the crowd looks tomorrow, 2822 02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:07,120 Speaker 8: especially if it does rain. It's like, do you still 2823 02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:09,480 Speaker 8: fight it out and come even because it's the first 2824 02:16:09,560 --> 02:16:10,800 Speaker 8: day it pads and you just want to see it 2825 02:16:11,520 --> 02:16:12,360 Speaker 8: or you wait it out? 2826 02:16:12,760 --> 02:16:14,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I guess it depends on how bad 2827 02:16:15,000 --> 02:16:15,200 Speaker 6: it is. 2828 02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:20,240 Speaker 7: I've honestly been shocked overall with the weather so far 2829 02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:22,640 Speaker 7: that we've had in training camp. Like today's I feel 2830 02:16:22,640 --> 02:16:24,480 Speaker 7: like our best day in regards to weather. 2831 02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:26,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, beautiful day. 2832 02:16:26,440 --> 02:16:28,520 Speaker 4: Is that over there? Yes, near Stacey. 2833 02:16:28,760 --> 02:16:31,840 Speaker 2: He's heading kind of toward us, but not. 2834 02:16:32,120 --> 02:16:35,080 Speaker 4: Quite in the general vicinity of this side to take 2835 02:16:35,120 --> 02:16:36,360 Speaker 4: a little bit of a right turn. 2836 02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:39,000 Speaker 7: You guys have better vision than me. 2837 02:16:39,360 --> 02:16:41,320 Speaker 4: Might have to say hello to some people first. I 2838 02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:46,320 Speaker 4: don't know, Oh, that could be. Maybe it's just. 2839 02:16:46,360 --> 02:16:47,040 Speaker 2: Getting some water. 2840 02:16:47,720 --> 02:16:48,959 Speaker 4: That would be the best case scenario. 2841 02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:59,720 Speaker 2: It's just drink, yeah, do a little hydrate. 2842 02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:02,360 Speaker 4: All right. So you guys are going to be up 2843 02:17:02,400 --> 02:17:03,800 Speaker 4: and running momentarily. 2844 02:17:03,959 --> 02:17:08,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, So Paul, why don't you head down? I enjoyed it, Freddy. 2845 02:17:08,200 --> 02:17:11,080 Speaker 4: Four four more under the belt, fred Yeah, we just 2846 02:17:11,200 --> 02:17:15,600 Speaker 4: keep on going here, huh. You and I revolutionizing training 2847 02:17:15,680 --> 02:17:18,520 Speaker 4: camp coverage. We got a young male greeting her dad. 2848 02:17:31,760 --> 02:17:33,599 Speaker 4: All right, they're getting his headset. 2849 02:17:33,280 --> 02:17:42,440 Speaker 2: On all right. 2850 02:17:42,560 --> 02:17:46,800 Speaker 3: Tomorrow we're joined by head coach girod Mayo, So fire away, 2851 02:17:47,200 --> 02:17:47,480 Speaker 3: Thank you. 2852 02:17:47,560 --> 02:17:49,760 Speaker 7: Fred. Hey, how are you? How are you doing today? 2853 02:17:50,920 --> 02:17:51,960 Speaker 7: I'm great? How are you? 2854 02:17:52,080 --> 02:17:54,680 Speaker 8: You've gotten a couple of practices underneath your belt? How 2855 02:17:54,680 --> 02:17:56,320 Speaker 8: do you think training camp is going so far? Through 2856 02:17:56,320 --> 02:17:57,280 Speaker 8: your through your eyes? 2857 02:17:57,680 --> 02:17:59,800 Speaker 12: I mean it's expected that we'll have ups and downs, 2858 02:17:59,800 --> 02:18:02,119 Speaker 12: but I would say these guys are doing a great job. 2859 02:18:02,600 --> 02:18:04,800 Speaker 12: Turning the page and getting better with every rep, not 2860 02:18:04,920 --> 02:18:06,440 Speaker 12: only on the field, but also off the field. 2861 02:18:06,480 --> 02:18:07,400 Speaker 4: So I'm excited. 2862 02:18:07,680 --> 02:18:09,520 Speaker 8: One of the common denominators that we've heard in all 2863 02:18:09,520 --> 02:18:12,160 Speaker 8: of your press conferences so far is competition. How do 2864 02:18:12,200 --> 02:18:14,240 Speaker 8: you think the competition is playing out at every position? 2865 02:18:14,920 --> 02:18:17,000 Speaker 12: You know, right now it's a little bit of, let's say, 2866 02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:19,520 Speaker 12: control competition. But tomorrow is a big day when we'll 2867 02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:21,480 Speaker 12: be out here in full pads and we'll see who 2868 02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:23,640 Speaker 12: wants to compete and who has to deal with some adversity. 2869 02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:25,600 Speaker 4: So I'm excited for tomorrow. 2870 02:18:25,800 --> 02:18:27,920 Speaker 2: Hey, coach, speaking of full pads tomorrow, is there a 2871 02:18:28,040 --> 02:18:31,279 Speaker 2: message that you give the team to mentally get prepared 2872 02:18:31,320 --> 02:18:33,320 Speaker 2: for tomorrow in more contact? Yea. 2873 02:18:33,440 --> 02:18:35,440 Speaker 12: Honestly, like a lot of these guys, they can't wait 2874 02:18:35,480 --> 02:18:38,400 Speaker 12: to get in pass now understanding the acclimation period is 2875 02:18:39,320 --> 02:18:41,440 Speaker 12: necessary once you put the pads on. If you can't 2876 02:18:41,440 --> 02:18:44,040 Speaker 12: get juiced up to play real football, then you probably 2877 02:18:44,040 --> 02:18:45,560 Speaker 12: shouldn't be here. If I had to give you a 2878 02:18:45,680 --> 02:18:48,000 Speaker 12: row our speech to put on pads and go out 2879 02:18:48,040 --> 02:18:50,000 Speaker 12: there and dominate the men across from you, like we're 2880 02:18:50,040 --> 02:18:52,160 Speaker 12: trying to weed those guys out. So as we go forward, 2881 02:18:52,640 --> 02:18:54,160 Speaker 12: we feel like we have a mentally tough team. 2882 02:18:54,560 --> 02:18:56,640 Speaker 8: Coach, you brought up dominating the man right in front 2883 02:18:56,640 --> 02:18:58,120 Speaker 8: of you. I want to go into the trenches now 2884 02:18:58,160 --> 02:19:00,520 Speaker 8: and talk about the offensive line. You said the that's five, 2885 02:19:00,600 --> 02:19:02,360 Speaker 8: this would play itself out in camp. 2886 02:19:02,400 --> 02:19:04,760 Speaker 7: Where do you think you are with that look? 2887 02:19:04,800 --> 02:19:06,880 Speaker 12: That's a great question, Tomaron, But I would say, honestly, 2888 02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:09,320 Speaker 12: we'll see tomorrow, we'll see the way we'll see. I 2889 02:19:09,320 --> 02:19:10,920 Speaker 12: would love to give you an answer, but it's hard 2890 02:19:10,959 --> 02:19:14,320 Speaker 12: to evaluate the guys up front offensively and defensively when 2891 02:19:14,320 --> 02:19:15,039 Speaker 12: there's not pads. 2892 02:19:15,720 --> 02:19:17,640 Speaker 8: Of course, the biggest question everyone wants to know with 2893 02:19:17,720 --> 02:19:19,720 Speaker 8: this camp is how is Drake may doing? 2894 02:19:19,959 --> 02:19:22,000 Speaker 7: What is your perspective of his progress throughout camp? 2895 02:19:22,120 --> 02:19:24,119 Speaker 12: YEA, Honestly, I would say all the quarterbacks are out 2896 02:19:24,120 --> 02:19:26,800 Speaker 12: here getting better every day, including you know, Zappi and 2897 02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:29,840 Speaker 12: Joe and you know obviously Jacoby. All those guys like 2898 02:19:29,959 --> 02:19:32,760 Speaker 12: they're working their tails off, and we'll see what happens 2899 02:19:32,800 --> 02:19:34,600 Speaker 12: as we continue to go. Right now, we're kind of still, 2900 02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:38,000 Speaker 12: you know, mixing and matching the groups, but once we settle. 2901 02:19:37,760 --> 02:19:39,480 Speaker 4: In, we'll be able to evaluate the quarterback position. 2902 02:19:39,520 --> 02:19:41,160 Speaker 8: But Drake's doing a good job for us last one 2903 02:19:41,200 --> 02:19:44,200 Speaker 8: before you let you go. The wide receiver room is stacked. 2904 02:19:44,240 --> 02:19:46,440 Speaker 8: You've seen a different guy flash every single day. What 2905 02:19:46,560 --> 02:19:47,480 Speaker 8: have you seen out of that room? 2906 02:19:47,920 --> 02:19:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2907 02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:50,160 Speaker 12: I mean those guys when you talk about competition, they're 2908 02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:54,359 Speaker 12: competing at everything. They compete on the jug machines down downstairs. 2909 02:19:54,440 --> 02:19:57,400 Speaker 12: So you know, honestly, it's one of those rooms where 2910 02:19:57,560 --> 02:19:59,400 Speaker 12: you don't maybe have that big name, but you have 2911 02:19:59,480 --> 02:20:01,560 Speaker 12: guys that are gonna break out this year just solely 2912 02:20:01,640 --> 02:20:04,080 Speaker 12: based on the way that they are preparing each and 2913 02:20:04,160 --> 02:20:06,640 Speaker 12: every day. So I'm excited to see those guys play. 2914 02:20:06,680 --> 02:20:06,840 Speaker 2: Well. 2915 02:20:06,959 --> 02:20:08,200 Speaker 7: Thanks so much, Coach for your time. 2916 02:20:08,480 --> 02:20:09,880 Speaker 4: Thanks Coach, I appreciate you guys. 2917 02:20:13,320 --> 02:20:13,560 Speaker 2: Thanks. 2918 02:20:15,640 --> 02:20:19,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well that'll wrap it up for Day 2919 02:20:19,280 --> 02:20:25,120 Speaker 3: four of Patriots training camp and our Patriots Unfiltered Broadcast. 2920 02:20:25,640 --> 02:20:29,000 Speaker 3: We are back to Tuesdays and Thursdays after this, but 2921 02:20:29,160 --> 02:20:31,440 Speaker 3: the players will be back out on the field tomorrow 2922 02:20:31,600 --> 02:20:34,039 Speaker 3: in pads. So stay tuned to Patriots dot com at 2923 02:20:34,080 --> 02:20:37,520 Speaker 3: Patriots Social for all the stuff coming out of Patriot's 2924 02:20:37,520 --> 02:20:38,080 Speaker 3: training camp. 2925 02:20:38,360 --> 02:20:41,080 Speaker 2: But for now, thanks for watching. We'll see you later. 2926 02:20:41,760 --> 02:20:45,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, Google Play, 2927 02:20:45,640 --> 02:20:48,680 Speaker 1: and everywhere else you listen like the show, please rate 2928 02:20:48,760 --> 02:20:51,879 Speaker 1: and review us. Listener comments and ratings help keep us 2929 02:20:51,959 --> 02:20:55,000 Speaker 1: high on the podcast rankings so new listeners can find us. 2930 02:20:55,240 --> 02:20:58,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to check Patriots dot com for more news 2931 02:20:58,360 --> 02:20:59,679 Speaker 1: and more podcasts. 2932 02:21:01,360 --> 02:21:04,720 Speaker 2: The world's a vgional podcast