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Speaker 4: My question to you and hyper aware to not ask
Speaker 4: you basic questions that you get twenty four to seven.
Speaker 4: But I am curious because I understand that one of
Speaker 4: my biggest dismays of the developments in the last four
Speaker 4: to five years, especially in hip hop. It's just the
Speaker 4: rampant amount of ignorance, which really makes me the fool,
Speaker 4: because if I think about it, it was there all along.
Speaker 4: But I think I've allowed myself to open my eyes
Speaker 4: to really see just how immersed in ignorance and misinformation.
Speaker 1: That we are. And my question is, do you feel.
Speaker 4: As a rampant homophobic mistreatment from your own people, from
Speaker 4: people that are not your people? Do you see progress happening?
Speaker 4: Or am I just naive with rose colored glasses that I.
Speaker 5: Mean, if I'm being honest, the expansion has been so
Speaker 5: beautiful to watch, even inside of the pushback.
Speaker 6: You know, my phrase is the change has.
Speaker 5: Already happened, which is why the pushback is so severe.
Speaker 5: You know, I think that what we as humans fall
Speaker 5: in the trap of is not focusing on learning history,
Speaker 5: because history shows us exactly what's happening.
Speaker 6: Right now with this Trump stuff.
Speaker 5: Right history shows us that this is what it will be.
Speaker 6: And every time we're unprepared.
Speaker 5: So until we learn our history and we're prepared for
Speaker 5: these moments and we're not cut with our pants down,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be the same. You know, I don't know
Speaker 5: if you you know, if you read songa hes He
Speaker 5: Coaches book We were eight years in power.
Speaker 6: That one.
Speaker 5: He predicted this, and nobody wanted to listen, and nobody
Speaker 5: wanted to hear about it, and nobody wanted to talk about.
Speaker 6: It, not even myself. This came out.
Speaker 5: That book came out right at the top of the
Speaker 5: second Obama and he said beware in that book. The
Speaker 5: general part of it was beware because there are repercussions
Speaker 5: for this that we're not preparing ourselves for. You know,
Speaker 5: the press still doesn't even know how to cover.
Speaker 3: That bitch, Yes, we will worry.
Speaker 6: Still don't even know how to cover him.
Speaker 5: Eight years later, and these industries are still selling humanity
Speaker 5: down the river.
Speaker 6: For ratings, for ratings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't know that bitch is a liar man.
Speaker 6: People were fired at the beginning of his presidency.
Speaker 5: Journalists on television were fired for calling him a liar.
Speaker 5: Every time he opens up his mouth. He's a liar
Speaker 5: every single time. And so for me to stay positive
Speaker 5: and stay you know, it's like, well, what do we do,
Speaker 5: What do we do to make sure that we're engaged?
Speaker 5: What do we do to stay engaged? I don't even
Speaker 5: know how sometimes how to have the conversation with people
Speaker 5: who don't vote. I don't know how to have this conversation.
Speaker 5: You know, it's like it's disingenuous. And it's the way
Speaker 5: that this even now that it's covered, it's like the
Speaker 5: press covers this like it's.
Speaker 1: A game show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like it's a you know, it's like you all
Speaker 5: know that this is not new. Why are you presenting
Speaker 5: this material like it's not like it's new. None of
Speaker 5: it is new. Slavery was abolished and Jim Crow happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if certain things happen in November, we will
Speaker 2: never get that history again.
Speaker 5: It's fine, we're gonna get We're gonna get there. We're
Speaker 5: gonna get there. But my question is have we learned
Speaker 5: anything because we got a black president and we sat.
Speaker 6: On our assets for eight years and ain't bomb box
Speaker 6: to fix everything. What are we gonna do this time
Speaker 6: with this power?
Speaker 1: I think right now.
Speaker 4: Black people are in a place where they're so exhausted.
Speaker 4: There's a thing in the gym called Jacob's Ladder, which
Speaker 4: I hate the most. You know, five minutes on Jacob's Ladder,
Speaker 4: you're like out, I can't think you know one, And
Speaker 4: I feel like that's where we are right now, even
Speaker 4: if it's to the detriment of our freedom.
Speaker 6: And what do you think our and what do you
Speaker 6: think our answers yourself?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 5: Who were living on the field? And what if I
Speaker 5: don't give a fuck?
Speaker 1: Right exactly, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 5: Keep calling to stay here if you're so fucking exhausted.
Speaker 6: Everybody's exhausted.
Speaker 2: I was exhausted. I was marching against the park tide
Speaker 2: at six years old. Make make Lukin Day a.
Speaker 3: Holiday, and ship it gonna continues.
Speaker 6: Till the day we die. Look at John fucking Lewis
Speaker 6: from his deathbed. He was working. How selfish that is.
Speaker 2: But I but I will say, Billy, you work a
Speaker 2: little harder than most. And I'm wondering, friend, when the
Speaker 2: rest does come? Because to a mirrest point, I do say,
Speaker 2: you be in the fight a lot.
Speaker 3: You be inough.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing.
Speaker 5: I have a song called I Can't sing this song again,
Speaker 5: and it's in and it's in response to a change
Speaker 5: is going to come.
Speaker 6: And here's what I think the issue is.
Speaker 1: Is it an answer to that?
Speaker 6: Yes, I can't sing this song again.
Speaker 5: I'm debuting it at Nancy Pelosi's luncheon, and it starts
Speaker 5: with a little bit of a recording of A Change
Speaker 5: is Gonna Come, and then it's like and then it
Speaker 5: goes into this, A change.
Speaker 6: Is gonna come. And the rhetoric that.
Speaker 5: We've learned for all of these years has led us
Speaker 5: to believe that we wait your turn, and we arrive somewhere.
Speaker 5: We arrived somewhere, and it's over. That is the sentiment
Speaker 5: of that song. To me, that is the sentiment of
Speaker 5: the of the civil rights movement. I don't think that
Speaker 5: it was on purpose, but I know for myself and
Speaker 5: I talk about Obama, it's like, oh okay, civil rights,
Speaker 5: Oh okay, gay rights, okay, we win. You know, marriage equality, okay,
Speaker 5: we win. You know, abortion rights, okay, we win. It's
Speaker 5: like you don't arrivee and the I say fight. I
Speaker 5: wish there was another word for it. The expansion, the involvement,
Speaker 5: the engagement.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 5: The engagement of the people can never wane.
Speaker 6: So if we know that going in, if we know that.
Speaker 5: It's a fight until we die, then we approach it differently.
Speaker 6: Then we go, okay, I need to take a.
Speaker 5: Break right now, Okay, self, care for myself and I
Speaker 5: and I'll come back and so that we can, you know,
Speaker 5: like like staggered breathing when you sang in the choir
Speaker 5: and you had to hold a note for a really
Speaker 5: long time, and some people take a break and some people,
Speaker 5: you know, it's like da, you know. And I think
Speaker 5: our messaging, the messaging for years at least for me,
Speaker 5: is what I'm finding and as I dissect it and
Speaker 5: try to figure out how like, oh, we think we arrived,
Speaker 5: so it never arrives.
Speaker 1: I'm guilty of that.
Speaker 4: You remember, like November of two thousand and eight, like
Speaker 4: we were all singing our version of can you see
Speaker 4: a brand New Day?
Speaker 1: Or whatever?
Speaker 6: And that's okay.
Speaker 4: For a week, I actually felt like I arrived in
Speaker 4: this utopian What we are basically saying is like we
Speaker 4: would like to experience not what whiteness feels like, but
Speaker 4: just the feeling of that level of freedom.
Speaker 6: Freedom, faiety, safety.
Speaker 4: And then by year two, once the unarmed shooting period started,
Speaker 4: and then I was like, oh, fuck, this is this
Speaker 4: is going back to the seventies and now we're in
Speaker 4: the forties, the eighteen forties.
Speaker 5: Because our founding fathers, who everybody likes to hold up
Speaker 5: on a pedestal so much. She she she's fucking racist
Speaker 5: slave owners who built this country.
Speaker 3: On that yes.
Speaker 5: Period, the caveats, you know, the thing that I've learned
Speaker 5: recently and just looking at how it all goes, it's like, so, wait,
Speaker 5: you mean to tell me that there's no oversight for stotus.
Speaker 6: That's our purpose, that's on purpose.
Speaker 5: If you can find the easter eggs in these documents,
Speaker 5: white men, you will be able to be in power forever,
Speaker 5: minority or not. What do you mean there are no
Speaker 5: term limits? What do you mean there are no termlinits?
Speaker 5: That means that the same old white people can stay
Speaker 5: in offense?
Speaker 6: It's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 5: The peaceful transition of power is not a fucking law?
Speaker 6: What are you talking about?
Speaker 5: It's just the unfolding and the unpealing of the It's like,
Speaker 5: so what is it?
Speaker 6: For real?
Speaker 5: And I think that's where we are and what I'm
Speaker 5: happy about and what I'm pleased about, you know, because
Speaker 5: of course when they go low, we go high, of course,
Speaker 5: and because I'm over there again, we have to figure
Speaker 5: out what going high looks like in this new world
Speaker 5: or that's what we have to do.
Speaker 6: And we have finally found it. And her name is
Speaker 6: fucking Kamala. That's her name.
Speaker 4: I want.
Speaker 5: How to be in the games that we're in, not
Speaker 5: the game that we wish it would be, not the
Speaker 5: game that it should be, but the game that we're in.
Speaker 5: We have to be in this and she is the
Speaker 5: person for the moment, for this moment. She has risen
Speaker 5: to the occasion.
Speaker 2: She knows how to clop that and not just because
Speaker 2: what she looks like, because of what she's done.
Speaker 3: Yes, she does, Yes.
Speaker 5: Has run rampant all over the world for eight fucking
Speaker 5: years because everybody so oh and bipartisan, and that's not
Speaker 5: how they're playing.
Speaker 6: That's not what they're playing. That's not the game.
Speaker 5: We haven't been in the game for eight years.
Speaker 2: So, Billy, how does it feel now that your voice
Speaker 2: matters to this whole other world in that way? You
Speaker 2: said you're going to be at the DNC, You've been
Speaker 2: at the White House multiple times? You know what does
Speaker 2: it feel like to be this activist of sorts? Activists
Speaker 2: no sorts?
Speaker 3: My bad, I.
Speaker 5: Don't know anything else. Once again, I'm a black saget
Speaker 5: in America.
Speaker 6: I have to fight. I don't have a choice. And
Speaker 6: I have to fight against my own people half the time, half.
Speaker 5: Against my own people all the time. I don't know
Speaker 5: if you saw all that bullshit on June.
Speaker 3: Teenths what what happened?
Speaker 5: So I was at the White House on June teenth
Speaker 5: in the morning, right, and you know, on the dais
Speaker 5: talking about solutions at the White House, right, inviting, right,
Speaker 5: go to the Juneteenth concert.
Speaker 6: I show up. I'm on the front row.
Speaker 5: It's me, the second gentleman, the vice president, the president,
Speaker 5: front row.
Speaker 6: M The next day they start dragging Joe.
Speaker 5: He's losing his mind because he was There was a
Speaker 5: picture caught of him like, oh yeah.
Speaker 6: He was listening to Patti LaBelle.
Speaker 5: He was watching Patty Labelle's sing a song and she
Speaker 5: hid a note and held it like she was twenty
Speaker 5: years old. And the whole audience was like, right, that's
Speaker 5: the fucking picture you saw. That's how they've been dragging him.
Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong.
Speaker 1: With him, have them knowing said that?
Speaker 5: I remember, Oh, and yes, but he's not, you know,
Speaker 5: just like when he was trailing off.
Speaker 6: Remember when he was trailing.
Speaker 1: Off and they were like right, and then.
Speaker 6: Camera and he's talking to twenty mapel over there, right,
Speaker 6: Now the press has done this to the world for
Speaker 6: their ratings.
Speaker 5: So the next photo that I see coming up on
Speaker 5: my feet is me greeting the president by kissing his
Speaker 5: hand across the second gentleman across the Now they run
Speaker 5: that photo mm hmm with me next to a drawing
Speaker 5: of a slave kissing Abraham Lincoln's boom.
Speaker 6: That's oh title. Oh I guess we're in a Jordan
Speaker 6: Peele movie. Now.
Speaker 3: Now when you say they, you're saying the black prints.
Speaker 6: You're saying, yes, somebody black did it, Okay.
Speaker 3: But you know we're not a monoligue movie.
Speaker 6: No I know, no, no, no, no, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Some black people, not everybody. But I have to fight
Speaker 6: that side a lot.
Speaker 5: And what I said, and I looked at it, and
Speaker 5: you know, my motto is, I do not now, nor
Speaker 5: will I ever adjudicate my life for humanity and sound
Speaker 5: bites on social media.
Speaker 6: I will never do it. There is no response to
Speaker 6: shit like that for me.
Speaker 5: However, as I was dissecting it, I'm like, so, what
Speaker 5: are you saying? What are y'all trying to say?
Speaker 6: Because at the.
Speaker 5: Time that this photo was that this drawing was drawn,
Speaker 5: the president at that time freed the slaves. We didn't
Speaker 5: have the three hundred years later. In that moment, he
Speaker 5: was thinking the man who freed him, oh, in that drunk,
Speaker 5: just as I was thinking, the man who we dragged
Speaker 5: out of retirement to save democracy. I will kiss that
Speaker 5: white man's hand until I go to the goddamn grave.
Speaker 6: What are you saying? What are y'all saying?
Speaker 3: Who cares? I actually lost in the room.
Speaker 5: Talking about solutions at the White House, and y'all over
Speaker 5: here clowning on the internet.
Speaker 6: That's the fucking.
Speaker 3: Problem, man, that's just static though it is.
Speaker 5: But what but but what's really happening which no one
Speaker 5: will talk about but me.
Speaker 6: Is I was also in a multi colored caf taine
Speaker 6: address on the front row.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm a black, embarrassing faggot, That's who I am.
Speaker 6: So you're not. So it's actually not about that at all.
Speaker 3: No, No, you're about.
Speaker 5: I was never supposed to be elevated to the highest
Speaker 5: levels like that, Right, I'm supposed to stay silent in
Speaker 5: a closet somewhere.
Speaker 2: But it's certain things that we really know in our community, right,
Speaker 2: and others don't.
Speaker 3: And so my whole life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's my whole life. People with my family at
Speaker 5: the time, not anymore, but like you know, my community,
Speaker 5: they would rather be a serial killer than a fact
Speaker 5: that's more acceptable.
Speaker 1: How were you able to reach your family in terms
Speaker 1: of I left, Oh.
Speaker 5: I left and they came back the mischief, I left.
Speaker 4: And they come back because you made it or did
Speaker 4: they come back because like some of.
Speaker 5: Them, some of them was before that. A lot of
Speaker 5: them were before that. My family was before that. You know,
Speaker 5: the church community that I grew up with, it.
Speaker 6: Was post same.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you're so transparent, you know, but it's you know,
Speaker 5: it's also interesting to talking about a certain group of
Speaker 5: black people.
Speaker 6: So during the George Floyd and.
Speaker 5: All of that stuff, you know, I got on line
Speaker 5: because here we were marching m and then I turned
Speaker 5: on my social media and a bunch of black people
Speaker 5: are beating up a trans girls in the seven eleven.
Speaker 5: You want to know why we don't have rights? This
Speaker 5: is why we don't have our rights. Until we do
Speaker 5: right by everybody, we will have nothing. Nobody's free till
Speaker 5: we're all free.
Speaker 6: Fuck y'all. You want to know why this is?
Speaker 2: Why do you think that that's something that should be
Speaker 2: handled within our community or do you think that.
Speaker 3: I do too?
Speaker 5: And I'm the one who's saying that, and they dragged
Speaker 5: me to hell for it. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 5: It's the truth. Mind your own damn business if you
Speaker 5: don't like it.
Speaker 3: You never had no fear of telling your truth?
Speaker 2: Have you always been this out loud? Which which the
Speaker 2: way you feel? It's my mother even I'm talking about TV,
Speaker 2: because you know when you go to Hollywood, and I mean,
Speaker 2: I tease me about it, but.
Speaker 5: My mother was like that, there are consequences, Yes, there
Speaker 5: are consequences.
Speaker 6: I suffer consequences. You know. It's like they've let the
Speaker 6: queens in. They've let us in a little bit.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 5: But the ones who are getting Marvel movies and shit
Speaker 5: don't talk.
Speaker 2: You're in Ryan Murphy world. So even that in itself
Speaker 2: is beautiful. But he's an out louder certain in his
Speaker 2: own way.
Speaker 6: So he's also a white man.
Speaker 2: I love him, Billy, And you know that straight people,
Speaker 2: do you not understand the happenings and the goings ons
Speaker 2: and the queer world with race in that way? Like
Speaker 2: you even saying that out loud people are like.
Speaker 3: They they're good. He gave you gay is good.
Speaker 6: You know, it's different.
Speaker 3: It's different.
Speaker 6: It's different.
Speaker 5: And I and you know, stand for something or you'll
Speaker 5: fall for anything.
Speaker 3: M h.
Speaker 5: I will go to my grades standing for the things
Speaker 5: that I believe in, even if that means whatever that
Speaker 5: means for my career, whatever it means, because it's more
Speaker 5: important for me to do that.
Speaker 6: I'm a human being first, and I.
Speaker 5: Engage in the world as a human being, and you
Speaker 5: will respect me as a human being or get the fuck.
Speaker 6: Out of my way, yo.
Speaker 2: Talk Can you talk about real quick? When you were
Speaker 2: asked to be in the Little Richard Project? I am
Speaker 2: everything in the first what you felt and what you
Speaker 2: saw when you saw, what you felt when you saw
Speaker 2: the finished product. Because as you're speaking, I'm thinking of
Speaker 2: him and I'm just it's not a lot of people
Speaker 2: who can live out loud and chose to live out
Speaker 2: loud and then came back and it's a choice.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And like I said, there are consequences that come
Speaker 6: along with it, y'all. There are you know there are.
Speaker 6: It's okay, okay, I'm not changing. I've never changed.
Speaker 2: Can we still get our James Waltwin? Can we say,
Speaker 2: of course, okay, thank you, Okay.
Speaker 6: Of course, you know, but we got to get a greenlet. Okay.
Speaker 6: You know, there's a whole world right now.
Speaker 5: It's like all of the fallout from the strike.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we're forty four, forty six.
Speaker 5: Percent back, forty six maybe forty six percent back, you know.
Speaker 6: And I breathed rarefied there. Don't think I don't know that.
Speaker 5: You know, film and television has dried up a bit
Speaker 5: for me in this moment, a bit, not completely, but
Speaker 5: a bit.
Speaker 6: I get to go and be in a broadma show.
Speaker 6: Who gets to do that?
Speaker 5: Y'all want to clown and call it me corny, But
Speaker 5: I get to still work in the business that I
Speaker 5: love because of this multi hyphenated human being that I
Speaker 5: am so like.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I feel for.
Speaker 5: The first time in a long time that I can
Speaker 5: take a breath.
Speaker 3: Reez, you deserve it.
Speaker 4: And are you scared to take a breath because I
Speaker 4: know that you feel you have to be on guard?
Speaker 4: Twenty four seven? Yeah, what is taking a breath? I
Speaker 4: never believed in vacations until.
Speaker 3: Vacation last year. Fifty you here, fifty.
Speaker 1: I took a vacation in twenty fifteen. I did, No,
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a wedding, you weren't, Okay.
Speaker 6: I never took a vacation either, vacation naps, Yes, I
Speaker 6: never took naps. Shout out.
Speaker 5: If I get to a place where it's too much,
Speaker 5: I'll lay right in my bed for two hours, like.
Speaker 6: I got to check out. You know.
Speaker 5: That's self care for me. I do my morning pages
Speaker 5: pretty much every.
Speaker 1: Morning, affirmations or well you write.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it comes from a book called the Artist's Way.
Speaker 7: I know, well, artists Way Way, and and I did
Speaker 7: it thirty years ago, and I've been doing it every
Speaker 7: ten years to just sort of research on myself.
Speaker 5: And I do those artists pages and that's my that's
Speaker 5: my daily meditation because they're supposed to be blurts essentially,
Speaker 5: you're just supposed to write.
Speaker 6: A long hand.
Speaker 5: But I've been doing it so long that I type
Speaker 5: them now. But it's like got to meditate for me
Speaker 5: in the morning. And I always feel better when I
Speaker 5: when I do that. Since Mom passed, I am trying
Speaker 5: my hand at Buddhism. Okay, I haven't been able to
Speaker 5: find a consistency in it yet, but my heart is there.
Speaker 6: And so I'm working towards it.
Speaker 5: I'm also meditating, you know, when I feel overwhelmed, I'll
Speaker 5: just sit down and breathe and medicine and it's it's useful.
Speaker 6: It's helpful.
Speaker 1: Was that really poortant?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: No, you know, because I can't sanity's importance. I can't
Speaker 5: be of use if I'm insane. Yeah, And I was
Speaker 5: put on this planet to be of use. I want
Speaker 5: to continue to be of use. And like you said,
Speaker 5: the activist part I am. You know, I came out
Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty five. We went straight to the front
Speaker 5: lines to fight for our lives during the age crisis.
Speaker 6: I don't know anything else. I don't know anything else.
Speaker 3: Can you pause here and it?
Speaker 6: Can?
Speaker 2: I just tell you I appreciate your truth in that,
Speaker 2: and I just want to tell you also, I was
Speaker 2: very excited to talk to you for all the reasons because,
Speaker 2: like I said, all the things I've watched you, I've
Speaker 2: listened and everything. But most importantly, I was excited to
Speaker 2: talk to you because you live in your truth about
Speaker 2: status and somebody very important to me has been living
Speaker 2: with this for twenty five thirty years, successfully beautifully living
Speaker 2: life out loud, and I can't wait for her to
Speaker 2: tell the world. But you, my friend, I was just
Speaker 2: in marvel of you living your truth and saying that
Speaker 2: out loud, and I can't wait, like I can't wait
Speaker 2: for her to do the same thing. But I just
Speaker 2: I want to thank you for that, because Billy, Billy.
Speaker 6: You're welcome.
Speaker 5: The thing about this business and the thing that I'm
Speaker 5: also grateful for that it took so long, right, Why
Speaker 5: is it take it so long?
Speaker 6: It took so long because I had to be ready.
Speaker 5: It took so long because I had to live a
Speaker 5: life where I could shoulder all of this stuff that
Speaker 5: I need to shoulder. I know what I represent, I
Speaker 5: know why I'm here. I can't do what I do
Speaker 5: unless I know it. You know, I was watching Oprah
Speaker 5: at one point a long time ago. I don't know
Speaker 5: if y'all remember, but like one year after about ten
Speaker 5: or twelve years or something, maybe fifteen, she came on
Speaker 5: and she said, I'm not doing any of that shop
Speaker 5: talk anymore.
Speaker 3: She didn't, and.
Speaker 5: Something dropped and she said, live your best life, and
Speaker 5: she turned into that person. You have to know what
Speaker 5: the purpose is so that you can sit in the
Speaker 5: fullness of it.
Speaker 6: I know what my power is, I know what my
Speaker 6: purpose is, and.
Speaker 5: I'm just grateful now that people are finally understanding it
Speaker 5: and seeing it. I had to come out as HIV
Speaker 5: positive to the world because I had to take the
Speaker 5: power away from the gotcha, gotcha press.
Speaker 6: Nobody had anything on me because I said it first.
Speaker 6: Now what.
Speaker 2: Right, This is a conversation I've been waiting for. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I said it first.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 6: So there's no there's full transparency with me.
Speaker 5: And my life on purpose because people need to see
Speaker 5: all of it, the successes, the disappointments, the failures, the flaws,
Speaker 5: all of it. Jesus was not perfect. You know, we
Speaker 5: make dities out of people. We forget these people were human.
Speaker 5: Martin Luther King Jr. Was human. He cheated on his wife.
Speaker 6: Like a lot of men do. He is not a dity.
Speaker 6: He was a human being.
Speaker 5: That's what makes it better, because we're all human, and
Speaker 5: so when you can relate to somebody's humanity, then you
Speaker 5: can see, Oh, it's not over because I made it.
Speaker 5: It's not over because this didn't work out. I keep going,
Speaker 5: that person kept going, Yeah, you know, that's why I
Speaker 5: throw my hands up at the house. Yeah, I throw
Speaker 5: my hands up with my friends. I called my sister
Speaker 5: screaming and cried. You know, I don't throw my hands
Speaker 5: up for real, right, you know, Like that's the self
Speaker 5: care part too. The care part is me being able
Speaker 5: to call my sister and throw a fucking temper potential.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, are you know, in the sense of the community,
Speaker 2: do you have a lot of kids?
Speaker 4: I feel like, well, I'm just gonna ask, like, are
Speaker 4: you fighting this battle isolated or do you have a
Speaker 4: community of people that you have in your corner or is.
Speaker 6: It there is a community that I'm a part of.
Speaker 5: And I'm so grateful before I talk about Broadway Cares,
Speaker 5: Equity Fights AIDS, you know, they they they were birthed
Speaker 5: out of the age crisis, and when I moved to
Speaker 5: New York City in nineteen ninety, they were just beginning
Speaker 5: and they taught an entire generation of us, a theater
Speaker 5: artist in particular, how to activate, you know. And so
Speaker 5: I've been a part of that community since I got here,
Speaker 5: and it's a large, far.
Speaker 6: Reaching activist community.
Speaker 5: So that's where I started, and I've picked up a
Speaker 5: lot of different people along the way.
Speaker 6: I have to be cognizant to not isolate.
Speaker 4: Okay, do you tend to shut down and shut in
Speaker 4: and I'm.
Speaker 6: Going through something.
Speaker 5: If I'm having a you know, a problem or an
Speaker 5: issue or you know, I will isolate, you know, like
Speaker 5: even with my mom passing in February.
Speaker 6: You know, it's like my friends.
Speaker 3: Are finally like, girl, come outside.
Speaker 5: Why haven't you come outside? Why haven't you called?
Speaker 6: You know, they call and chucking me. They're like, we
Speaker 6: know you're isolating.
Speaker 5: Come out, come out, come out, you know, because I
Speaker 5: get in a place where I feel like I don't
Speaker 5: want to be a burden. And so much of my
Speaker 5: trauma and what I deal with in my life has
Speaker 5: existed for so long and I continue to work through
Speaker 5: it and I continue to become a better person. But
Speaker 5: I feel like sometimes the people who've been in my
Speaker 5: life for thirty years plus, I'm.
Speaker 6: Like, y'all are tired of it. Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 6: y'all are tired of it. You know, I would never
Speaker 6: be tired of it.
Speaker 5: So I don't understand why I put that on other people,
Speaker 5: but like they have to be tired of this now.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: So I have to work on that, you know, I
Speaker 5: have to work on like making sure that I reach
Speaker 5: out when I don't feel good and ask for help
Speaker 5: when I don't feel great.
Speaker 6: I have to do that on my own.
Speaker 2: You have to let others pour into you, because you
Speaker 2: are always pouring into others.
Speaker 5: During COVID, my trauma therapist, you know, because I suffered,
Speaker 5: you know, sexual abuse at the hands of my stepfather
Speaker 5: from the time I was seven to the time I
Speaker 5: was twelve. It's in the book I talked about, you know,
Speaker 5: like there's a lot of trauma. Lot, there's a lot,
Speaker 5: a lot of trauma. And you know, I say, the
Speaker 5: world stopped so that I could begin a real journey
Speaker 5: towards healing my trauma. And the first thing that my
Speaker 5: trauma therapist and I and I have to say, you know,
Speaker 5: the mental health profession and what and the strides and
Speaker 5: what is available for us to deal with our mental
Speaker 5: health blows my mind.
Speaker 6: It blows my mind.
Speaker 5: And she said, your biggest problem is that you have
Speaker 5: no self compassion.
Speaker 3: But everybody else that's a lot of us.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's the truth. That's the first three months, Oh
Speaker 6: God of work.
Speaker 5: I did four hours a week for about two years.
Speaker 5: It went down to two hours at about a year
Speaker 5: and three months. But the first thing she said was
Speaker 5: you have no self compassion and we have to work,
Speaker 5: I mean exercises.
Speaker 6: I had to listen to people talk about self compassion.
Speaker 5: In by ear and I have to go back to
Speaker 5: it even now today I have to remind myself, Oh,
Speaker 5: that's my non self compassion person talking.
Speaker 4: So this is what I want to know, because this
Speaker 4: is the question I asked myself. You know in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty one when Biden came into office and with the
Speaker 4: quick fast that you know, you saw how vigilant and
Speaker 4: fast the government was to respond to the global health
Speaker 4: crisis in a second.
Speaker 1: And when the numbers went down.
Speaker 4: I was thinking to myself, I'm like, wow, Like, why
Speaker 4: didn't this happened in the eighties when HIV was was
Speaker 4: was killed.
Speaker 1: Of course, I know what the answer is. I want
Speaker 1: to ask you.
Speaker 5: And it didn't happen with the last administration. Reagan and
Speaker 5: Trump are the same person.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 5: Reagan had a better suit and knew not to say
Speaker 5: the quiet part out loud. Sorry, sorry, Nicole Wallace. And
Speaker 5: when I see you, I'm gonna talk to you about that.
Speaker 6: Sorry, And she will take me your worshiping of Reagan. Sorry,
Speaker 6: David Jolly, sorry, yes, nobody, but y'all he wasn't good
Speaker 6: for nobody, But y'all, my people.
Speaker 4: Where are we now in terms of our relationship with
Speaker 4: HIV with the fight against the virus spreading?
Speaker 1: Like in terms of.
Speaker 6: HIV is manageable?
Speaker 5: The medication I take makes my T cells about one
Speaker 5: hundred to two hundred points higher than any of you.
Speaker 3: You're non detective, undetectable.
Speaker 5: Undetectable, but like, my T cell count is so high,
Speaker 5: I'm like the bionic man.
Speaker 3: Oh that's the shit. They ain't got a commercial for it.
Speaker 3: In Billy. That's something I ain't got a commercial.
Speaker 6: I've been trying to get a commercial for these.
Speaker 2: Those HIV mens usually have crazy side effects, like so
Speaker 2: now you got to be on a high cholesterol medicine
Speaker 2: or diabetes or yes, and you know.
Speaker 6: I literally just went on cholesterol.
Speaker 5: Medication to low dose because it's now recommended for people
Speaker 5: that it's not beat my cholesterol's time. But you know
Speaker 5: when you do, when you have these preventative measures, you
Speaker 5: live longer. That's why we're always fighting for It's not
Speaker 5: about once you're sick, it's about being able to understand
Speaker 5: before you get sick.
Speaker 4: And how accessible is it as far as.
Speaker 3: To us, what's that? Who's us?
Speaker 5: It's accessible to Americans, It's accessible to people who have
Speaker 5: medical insurance. It's accessible to people who live in cities
Speaker 5: who have programs like a DAT Because when I was diagnosed,
Speaker 5: I didn't have a job, I didn't have medical insurance,
Speaker 5: I didn't have anything. New York City had had adapt
Speaker 5: They paid for my medications. The actors fun broughtway cares,
Speaker 5: they stepped in, they made sure I was taking care of.
Speaker 6: So, you know, I'm one of the lucky ones. I'm
Speaker 6: one of the blessed ones.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: I know there are communities that do not have this access.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh oh, well that too.
Speaker 6: There are communities that don't have this access.
Speaker 5: I exist in communities that do, and I always try
Speaker 5: to make sure that I'm contributing and speaking.
Speaker 6: And I'm diabetic because my family, yeah you know. And
Speaker 6: the gift of that is I'm not the doctor every
Speaker 6: three months.
Speaker 5: I'm a black, fifty five year old man who goes
Speaker 5: to the doctor every three months. Oh that is a blessing.
Speaker 5: That was the gift because if I didn't have these issues,
Speaker 5: I would probably be less healthy than I am right now,
Speaker 5: because I would never go to the doctor if I
Speaker 5: did not.
Speaker 3: Black man, what is that? But y'all I don't get it.
Speaker 3: But that's okay.
Speaker 8: It's a certain thing, yo.
Speaker 6: I'll be.
Speaker 1: People that still believe in doctors.
Speaker 5: I got this two weeks ago to monitor my sugar.
Speaker 5: It took me two weeks. I just put it on today.
Speaker 5: It took me two weeks to just.
Speaker 1: Get Yeah, like until I came to tonight show Awesome
Speaker 1: look for real. Zara was shocked. She's like, when's the
Speaker 1: last time he'd been to the dinner?
Speaker 4: And I was like, dog nineteen seventy nine, like when
Speaker 4: I was eight.
Speaker 2: Well, dental is the hardest insurance too, So shout out
Speaker 2: to the elders.
Speaker 6: Ain't no assurance? Ain't you just go pay for it?
Speaker 6: I didn't even know.
Speaker 5: My assistant was like, you know, you could pay for
Speaker 5: some of this with your assurance. I said, YoY, I
Speaker 5: put it through because the last time I had an assurance,
Speaker 5: they just paid for cleanics and that was it.
Speaker 3: Right right right, Oh, I'm going through it right now.
Speaker 2: I don't have a whole two bus Billy, do you
Speaker 2: wish for us to talk about hiva. A's like we
Speaker 2: kind of do diabetes and how you know, perrymenopause is.
Speaker 3: Kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I feel like people still feel an uncomfortability, especially Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Which is why I came out on the Hollywood Reporter
Speaker 5: to talk about it. Okay, and there's probably not a
Speaker 5: day goes by that somebody stops me and says, sake,
Speaker 5: thank you for saying it, thank you for stamping for us,
Speaker 5: thank you for that, and.
Speaker 2: Thank you and also thank you because, like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm a stand thank you for doing polls.
Speaker 3: And reliving that shit all over again.
Speaker 2: I was like, Billy is the oldest person probably on
Speaker 2: this cast and.
Speaker 3: He's reliving the eighties all over again. That's got to
Speaker 3: be traumatizing as fuck.
Speaker 6: Thank you for understanding that.
Speaker 5: And I didn't get it until COVID and my now
Speaker 5: ex husband called me a.
Speaker 6: What is that not a character actor? A method called
Speaker 6: me a method.
Speaker 5: Actor, and I was like, I'm a method actor. He's like,
Speaker 5: you're a little bit of a method actor. And I
Speaker 5: didn't really receive it until the COVID break.
Speaker 6: We were in the middle of.
Speaker 5: Filming episode one of season three, and then we were
Speaker 5: shut down and we went home for nine months, and
Speaker 5: during the trauma therapy, I realized, oh shit.
Speaker 3: Yes, like, what are you doing? What are you doing?
Speaker 5: I was so excited that somebody was taking me seriously
Speaker 5: as an actor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it that.
Speaker 5: I didn't realize that literally every day I went into work,
Speaker 5: I was re traumatizing every day.
Speaker 1: How did you process it? Then?
Speaker 5: I wasn't processing in the moment, that's the issue. I
Speaker 5: was just happy to be working. But I was carrying
Speaker 5: it with me, and I was bringing it home and
Speaker 5: not really knowing that I was bringing home right, and
Speaker 5: not really understanding why there was a depress. There was
Speaker 5: a low grade depression that I couldn't shake, and all
Speaker 5: of that stuff. And so then when I went back,
Speaker 5: I said, you get three takes. Set these cameras up,
Speaker 5: capture this performance. Man, I'm gonna give you everything, but
Speaker 5: I only have three of them in me. I can't
Speaker 5: keep going and going and going, you know, Like the
Speaker 5: episode season two, I was sick in the bed in
Speaker 5: a hospital bed for like two episodes, and I forgot
Speaker 5: that I've never left the band.
Speaker 6: All day.
Speaker 5: I would make him bring lunch to me, bring me
Speaker 5: the food, Bring me the food.
Speaker 6: I need to stay in it. And I'm like, that's
Speaker 6: the method actor.
Speaker 3: No, a mirror he was. It was like an altar.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I know an actor who almost ruined his
Speaker 4: relationship because he did a method role and didn't go
Speaker 4: through the ritual process of getting rid of it. There's
Speaker 4: a very specific process this actor goes through to get
Speaker 4: rid of a character.
Speaker 1: But because another.
Speaker 4: Project was like right around the corner, this actor didn't
Speaker 4: take the necessary eight weeks to do the thing that
Speaker 4: has to be done to get rid of the character
Speaker 4: and almost ruined his marriage and his family and everything.
Speaker 4: When you were finally finished with post, was there a
Speaker 4: ritual that you had to do in order to get
Speaker 4: rid of the character?
Speaker 1: Or like, what, how do you? How did you let
Speaker 1: it go? How did you?
Speaker 6: I don't know that it's a ritual. It wasn't. It's
Speaker 6: not a ritual.
Speaker 2: For me.
Speaker 6: You just let it go. I just let it go.
Speaker 6: I didn't do anything ritualistic to let it go. It
Speaker 6: was just over.
Speaker 5: So if you're not there doing it every day, it's
Speaker 5: over and to me, for me, and so it slowly
Speaker 5: dissipates and it's slowly gone.
Speaker 6: You know, I will say I didn't watch it.
Speaker 5: I mean I watched the first run when it happened,
Speaker 5: but I didn't return to it till like six months ago,
Speaker 5: and I had to go watch it for that, I
Speaker 5: am enough space that I needed to get into.
Speaker 4: So what was the process like reliving watching it through
Speaker 4: the new filtered Well, I had.
Speaker 5: Enough distance from it to understand my own power. I
Speaker 5: had enough distance from it to watch it and be
Speaker 5: able to you know, and be able to go, oh no.
Speaker 5: I deserve that because I went through a space where
Speaker 5: I had like, oh, I was a diversity winner. I
Speaker 5: won the Emmy as a diversity winner because that's when
Speaker 5: Hollywood was in woke mode.
Speaker 3: Right, I could see you.
Speaker 6: So I went through a time.
Speaker 1: Because so you didn't feel it was legit. You felt
Speaker 1: it was this well.
Speaker 6: Pray tell didn't exist until I walked in the ground.
Speaker 5: Right, So see the one they had already written the
Speaker 5: first four episodes, if you go back to season one,
Speaker 5: they had to fold me into it slowly, and so
Speaker 5: the first three episodes, I'm more.
Speaker 6: Of just the MC. I have a couple of scenes
Speaker 6: outside of it, but I'm just MC.
Speaker 5: It's episode four when I get the HIV diagnosis and
Speaker 5: it's guns a blazing, right and so. But but what
Speaker 5: was weird for me was that season two and season
Speaker 5: three I was the leaved with Blanca and I lost
Speaker 5: the Emmy to two white boys again, you know. And
Speaker 5: it was like, but that's what I deserved, Yeah, because.
Speaker 3: You gotta a season I didn't.
Speaker 6: I didn't feel like.
Speaker 5: I had deserved it for season one because I wasn't
Speaker 5: as much as I was in season two and season three.
Speaker 5: So my brain started to go there. And so then
Speaker 5: my manager and that's the self compassion thing, and so
Speaker 5: my manager was like, Billan, no, you won the Emmy
Speaker 5: for season one and two at the same time, because
Speaker 5: what happened was you came on in the summer for
Speaker 5: season one, you were nominated the following summer, while season.
Speaker 6: Two was Aaron got it.
Speaker 9: So they saw season one, but they were voting on
Speaker 9: your performance of season one ant and I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 9: but I had to go back to watch it.
Speaker 6: To go oh no, I was fierce.
Speaker 5: And in season one one two I was slaying in
Speaker 5: season one as well.
Speaker 6: I laid that shit right on down.
Speaker 5: I deserved it, but like I had to go back,
Speaker 5: like I had to talk to myself in the.
Speaker 6: Mirror and be like, you are enough, you deserved it.
Speaker 5: And then, you know, the great part about the thing
Speaker 5: I love about film TV that doesn't exist in theater
Speaker 5: is you write about it.
Speaker 3: The proof is.
Speaker 2: Right there, you know. And the impact the impact of
Speaker 2: TV versus the theater. Because that that birket a whole
Speaker 2: nother show on HBO.
Speaker 4: Right, were you allowed to have input for your character
Speaker 4: development in terms of telling them? So you talked to
Speaker 4: the writers and told me your life story.
Speaker 6: And I didn't have to talk to the writers, they
Speaker 6: already knew it. But yeah, I spoke to the writers.
Speaker 6: But I did get a call. I had done something.
Speaker 5: I can't remember what I did, but I had talked
Speaker 5: about my abuse, my sexual abuse, and Ryan knew about
Speaker 5: my family stuff and my church stuff. And he called
Speaker 5: me one day and he's like, would you be okay
Speaker 5: with us using.
Speaker 3: You know, your Mike and their mom's story.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like, are you okay us? Would you be
Speaker 6: okay with us using that? I'm like, isn't I the point?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go, let's pay but cut the check.
Speaker 5: Yes, of course. So season three, when I go home
Speaker 5: and tell my family that I have HIV.
Speaker 6: That's all. You know. There's a lot of it that's
Speaker 6: like real.
Speaker 5: You know, the step for the father that molested me
Speaker 5: that comes back like Angels in America in season two,
Speaker 5: and like that was from my life. It's such a gift.
Speaker 5: It really is a gift. You know, who gets to
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 3: Like you are.
Speaker 5: It took me thirty years, and look at what it was,
Speaker 5: Look at what it is when it comes around, like
Speaker 5: it's amazing.
Speaker 3: It makes that whole five seven year thing makes so
Speaker 3: much sense.
Speaker 6: You know. And my voice is different now.
Speaker 5: You know, I want you to go and listen to
Speaker 5: me pre as it refluctx and listen to me now.
Speaker 5: And what I find interesting is that people respond to
Speaker 5: my voice differently now, like they actually.
Speaker 6: Like my imperfections.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: Is awesome.
Speaker 5: My voice was perfect, not a bad note, center of
Speaker 5: the pitch every moment, never a crack, never nothing. And
Speaker 5: now you know, it's like I finally got to the
Speaker 5: place where I'm like cool with it. Jones later, my
Speaker 5: voice teacher, she was she got me back to being healthy.
Speaker 2: You know, those adjectives don't even describe like Patty and
Speaker 2: and Arika and all of them right like they were
Speaker 2: even in their moments of mistake. It was still genius,
Speaker 2: but they had moments where by educator's check criteria it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I'm leaning into this voice because I can smoke
Speaker 5: weed and great and nobody cares.
Speaker 6: This.
Speaker 1: This is what I gotta say.
Speaker 4: And I sound like a broken record to our listening
Speaker 4: audience with QLs. But it's weird, Like I feel almost
Speaker 4: guilty having this platform because like I don't even consider
Speaker 4: a media source more than I consider it as a
Speaker 4: legit way for me to learn about people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and learn about myself.
Speaker 5: The commonality that we've made today with you sharing how
Speaker 5: you feel about not achieving the space that you want
Speaker 5: to be in your music takes my breath away. And
Speaker 5: thank you for sharing that, because that's not something that
Speaker 5: I would you know, I'm one of those people that
Speaker 5: look to go the masters of everything, you.
Speaker 6: Know, like that you never know.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm shocking people this week.
Speaker 4: Steve has actually achieved the impossible.
Speaker 1: So as this recording and Steve suggested it so.
Speaker 4: Casually, I didn't realize the trap, not the trap that
Speaker 4: I fell into. So I do have a fear in life,
Speaker 4: and that fear is playing jazz. You know, it's not
Speaker 4: that I don't have the ability to do it. And
Speaker 4: I think in general, Black people in general have a
Speaker 4: fear of being vulnerable, either emotionally vulnerable professionally vulnerable, and
Speaker 4: jazz is such well.
Speaker 1: I think music in general is a vulnerability.
Speaker 4: But I do notice that I tend to only be
Speaker 4: in situations that I'm allowed to control, right and in
Speaker 4: this very particular situation, I can control my ten bandmates.
Speaker 4: I can, you know, like I know my music like
Speaker 4: the back of my hand. But when so, you know,
Speaker 4: when I did Steve's project for his label, yes, Sugar Stee, Yes,
Speaker 4: when I did my project for his label, you know
Speaker 4: that that was one thing getting through the actual recording
Speaker 4: of the album. When he's like, all right, we're gonna
Speaker 4: do six shows at the Blue Note, I agreed to it,
Speaker 4: but it was so far in the future that you know,
Speaker 4: I wasn't it. I'm shocked that I didn't find a
Speaker 4: way to sabotage myself, you know. And so I did
Speaker 4: those six shows last night. And that was one of
Speaker 4: my biggest fears in life, like playing that level of musicianship.
Speaker 4: I don't know, because again I tended to beat myself
Speaker 4: up way more than I should.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and.
Speaker 4: For some reason I got through it. So yeah, Steve,
Speaker 4: this is a friendship movement with us, and we've known
Speaker 4: each other for.
Speaker 1: Twenty five years.
Speaker 6: I love that.
Speaker 4: Thank you for taking me out of my fear. But
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying to you is, you know,
Speaker 4: thank you. I know that when we tend to share
Speaker 4: our stories, whatever our backgrounds are, we might think that
Speaker 4: it's for naught or you know, is it the tree
Speaker 4: that falls in the forest.
Speaker 1: That no one receives or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I believe it is definitely one of the
Speaker 4: most important episodes of Quest Love Supreme that we've we've taped, and.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for that.
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me. It really really means the
Speaker 6: world to me.
Speaker 5: You know, the fact that you you know, because I
Speaker 5: hold you in such high regard, and.
Speaker 6: You know it's cool. I feel cool. You make me
Speaker 6: feel cool. I appreciate that, and I don't always feel cool.
Speaker 4: See guys, and I'm not awkwardly matrix dodging.
Speaker 1: I want to say that no more. I'm truly done Duncan.
Speaker 4: I'm world famous for ducan compliments and all those things
Speaker 4: I felt non deservant of it, but I know for
Speaker 4: I appreciate it, and I am manifesting for you and
Speaker 4: for me. I think the overall lesson that we can
Speaker 4: collectively learn is that inherently we feel as though we
Speaker 4: are enough as human beings. Because I will admit to you,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm very allow that overachievement in my life. Of course,
Speaker 4: you know, my dad was a world famous backstage dad,
Speaker 4: and you know so I'm certain that the people pleasing
Speaker 4: thing of me and the overchieving thing of me, it
Speaker 4: has a lot to do with it, you know, trying
Speaker 4: to make.
Speaker 1: My dad happy.
Speaker 4: But I will say that for our sakes, I hope
Speaker 4: it happens. If it does not happen, and I don't
Speaker 4: believe in manifucking myself if it doesn't have it, I'm
Speaker 4: fine with that personally myself, for you, I hope that
Speaker 4: we find satisfaction and safety.
Speaker 2: Everybody find satisfaction and safety on this call and listening
Speaker 2: to this interview, and freedom.
Speaker 3: Not just Billy in quest love.
Speaker 2: We must all achieve these levels of self compassion and
Speaker 2: love for ourselves.
Speaker 3: Right there, you go, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna let you enjoy your dinner.
Speaker 6: Jolley.
Speaker 1: I thank you very much. I wanna be.
Speaker 4: Having me, thanks for having me on Paid Bill, New
Speaker 4: Paid Bill and this Quest Love Thank you. Bill is
Speaker 4: supported for everything and we'll see you guys on the
Speaker 4: next career.
Speaker 6: Thank you all right, Thank you bye.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Quest Love Supreme.
Speaker 8: This podcast is hosted by a Mere quest Love, Thompson,
Speaker 8: Layah Saint Clair Sugar, Steve Mandell, and myself unpaid Phil Sirman.
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