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Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show begins. He's a great guy. Now. Welcome, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: your nation's capital, here on Thursday, the eighteenth of July

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. We've got a great show for you today,

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Speaker 1: so don't go absolutely anywhere. We've got Terry Shilling from

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Speaker 1: who I had the great honor of listening to speak

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Speaker 1: at at a conference on National Conservatism this week, making

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Speaker 1: Nationalism great again. From Opening the Books Adam and Jievsky

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Speaker 1: Raheim Kasama, the editor in chief of human Events dot com.

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Speaker 1: That was Reagan's favorite magazine back in the day, the

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Speaker 1: the moment, and more guests over the course of the

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Speaker 1: first let's let's remind ourselves for a second, if you

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Speaker 1: Elane Omar, this congresswoman who has told President Trump and

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Speaker 1: I have you? I'm here with him. It's so great

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Speaker 1: to a break right now. This is the buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Rahem Kassam. We'll be back in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into the buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Kausam,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live out of Washington, DC. If you want to

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Speaker 1: That's r H E E M K A S S

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Speaker 1: A M on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, parlor, all of the things.

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Speaker 1: I'm all over those things mostly because I have to

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Speaker 1: be on those things. If I could not be on

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Speaker 1: social media, believe you me, I wouldn't be I come

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Speaker 1: to you guys on the phone lines now. If you're

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Speaker 1: Felix on the line. Phelix, are you with us? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Sol him what a pleasure always Hello. So how are

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Speaker 1: you doing today? I'm fine. Well, I'm a little perplexed. Actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a big Donald Trump supporter. Actually I

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Speaker 1: was happy to hear that you were gonna be on.

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Speaker 1: I had a number of topics I would have loved

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Speaker 1: to discuss with you. But after hearing President's Trump's disavowal,

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Speaker 1: you know, of this audience there and rally, I'm a

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Speaker 1: little bit upset that he gave in and he basically

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Speaker 1: kissed the boots of the left. Okay, well, I think

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Speaker 1: he should have explained, you know what the people are thinking,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, we're not racist, we're you know. But however,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Felix, it's interesting, is it. Nobody's ever said

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Speaker 1: send her back to Ian Hersey Ali, who is a

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Speaker 1: refugee from Somalia who has integrated and assimilate and become

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Speaker 1: a very, very constructive part of the American fabric. Nobody's

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Speaker 1: ever said that to her, Nobody's ever said it to

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Speaker 1: just a grand plethora of people who have come to

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Speaker 1: all different backgrounds, from all different ethnicities, from all different

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Speaker 1: skin colors. And I only say skin color because the

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Speaker 1: left cares about skin color. Felix. It's this one woman,

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Speaker 1: right who is particularly agregious, particularly offensive. I don't mean

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Speaker 1: is concerned, on a daily basis. Felix, I agree with

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Speaker 1: you in the sense that Trump says, and I quote,

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Speaker 1: I was not happy with it. I disagree with it

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Speaker 1: when he's talking about to send her back chant. But again, Felix,

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Speaker 1: I would add to that, he's speaking in the Oval office,

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Speaker 1: twenty seconds long. He needs to get that one message

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Speaker 1: across that says, actually, we don't need this woman to

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Speaker 1: leave the country to defeat her ideas. We can defeat

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Speaker 1: them right here. Felix. Yes, well, you're right. But unfortunately

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Speaker 1: he opened the door, you know because right away, you know,

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Speaker 1: the left everyone is jumping all over him, and he

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Speaker 1: disavowed and so basically, you know, he cowed happed them.

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Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, but I really was quite

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Speaker 1: upset and I really actually wanted to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about things that the left drows and that's like the

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Speaker 1: history of slavery in this country. Slave owner that hello, yes,

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Speaker 1: property that once the slave owner died, in other words,

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Speaker 1: they were not set free. They were they were they

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Speaker 1: were property. And this was actually accomplished by a black

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Speaker 1: slave owner. And quite frankly, it was the Western jude

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Speaker 1: or Christian cultures that put an end to slavery. And

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Speaker 1: as far as being enslaved, they are already slaves before

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Speaker 1: they came here. And it was you know, basically people

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Speaker 1: of their own and probably particularly the Muslims, you know,

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Speaker 1: and a half million to three million white slaves that

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Speaker 1: were you know, in North Africa, look, Felix, and thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for your call. Felix. We know the

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Speaker 1: real serious people, the people who look at history. We

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Speaker 1: know about the Arab slave trade, we know about William Wilberforce.

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Speaker 1: We know who really started this whole thing and who

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Speaker 1: scheme of things, most conscientious of voting Americans know that.

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Speaker 1: And I share your concerns, and I'm sure you have them.

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Speaker 1: I'm putting words in your mouth now, Phelix, but I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you feel it this way, that the next generation

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Speaker 1: is not that conscientious about what it knows. And the left,

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Speaker 1: be it the left people in Nike or the left

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Speaker 1: people on television, are intent in their falsehoods, are intending

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Speaker 1: their lies. They are leading people down the wrong path

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Speaker 1: of both American history and contemporaneous events. However, I feel

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Speaker 1: like there's something changing. And it's not just changing in America.

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Speaker 1: It's changing all across the Western world. People aren't willing

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Speaker 1: to send their children to these common core schools anymore.

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Speaker 1: People aren't willing to say to their children take on

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thousand dollars worth of debt over

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Speaker 1: the course of your lifetimes in order to be indoctrinated.

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Speaker 1: And so I see, as long as we are willing

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Speaker 1: to keep banging those drums and keep bringing that energy

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Speaker 1: to the table, that we may well just win this

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Speaker 1: fight in the long run. And I'm still delighted no

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Speaker 1: matter what he cowtowed two this morning that the president

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Speaker 1: is Trump and is anyone else at this point in time,

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Speaker 1: because believe you me, it would be a lot us

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Speaker 1: under Hillary certainly, but I think it might be a

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Speaker 1: whole lot worse under Rubio or Bush or somebody that

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Speaker 1: the left, but actually go further than their agenda in

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Speaker 1: the hopes of proving that they weren't a racist or

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Speaker 1: weren't whatever it is ist they throw it us nowadays,

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Speaker 1: I think we have a couple of minutes left. Can

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Speaker 1: we get Darren in West Virginia on the line, darreny

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Speaker 1: with us. Hello, Hey, Darren, how's it going. It's going well?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Let us have it. It's all yours, yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you. So, first of all, I just want to

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Speaker 1: the President's response today. First of all, I think you

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Speaker 1: know when you have a crowd of enthusiastic people, no

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Speaker 1: matter no matter what their political strips are, whether it's

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Speaker 1: at a sporting event or at a political event. Mob

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Speaker 1: rule is a you'll sing and so once one person

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Speaker 1: starts chanting it in the heat of the moment, other

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Speaker 1: people start chanting in as well. And it's a wrestling match,

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Speaker 1: come on, ye yes, yes. And I suspect that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that chanted that last night may have

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Speaker 1: second thoughts about it today, that that perhaps that was

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Speaker 1: one one step too far saying send her back yea.

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Speaker 1: So so I agree with the president, Darren. We've got

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Speaker 1: about we've got about twenty five seconds before the break,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Yeah, okay, yep. So the other thing I

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Speaker 1: have Trump, and I think that there's these pendulum swings

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Speaker 1: just have to wait for the cycles to get better. Darren,

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Speaker 1: I do not disagree with you one bit, and thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for your cool sorties, little bit rushed

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Speaker 1: here at the end of the first hour. But the

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Speaker 1: great news is this is only the first hour, ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, we have two more left. This is Rhem

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Speaker 1: Kassam on the Buck Sexton Show. Call in, don't miss

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Speaker 1: since the Buck sex Can show. My name is Rhem

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Speaker 1: because I'm filling in for Buck Sexton from the Freedom

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Speaker 1: Hut in downtown Washington, d C. It is a swelteringly

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Speaker 1: one hundred degrees all that humidity and so on and

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Speaker 1: so forth. So I can't wait, frankly to get down

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Speaker 1: to the border next week. And we will be going

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Speaker 1: down to the border in El Paso for the We

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Speaker 1: Build the Wall organization, and I'm very glad to have

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Speaker 1: At Brian called Faja, US Air Force veteran and the

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Speaker 1: founder of We Build the Wall dot US. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show, hey man, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Hey Brian, So I remember when you launched We Build

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Speaker 1: the Wall, this crowdfunding operation to get around all of

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Speaker 1: the nonsense that the US government is going through to

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Speaker 1: try and get a secure border. You'd think it would

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Speaker 1: be quite easy for a nation to get its secure border,

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Speaker 1: but the Democrats don't want it to happen. The media

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Speaker 1: doesn't want it to happen. So you guys said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, we'll do it ourselves. And there's something about

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Speaker 1: that that is just incredibly American and also incredibly American

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Speaker 1: armed services that would get something like that done, and

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Speaker 1: you have done it. Tell us a little bit about

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Speaker 1: what you've done, and a little bit about what's taking

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Speaker 1: place next week in El Paso, because I have never

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Speaker 1: been there and I'm very excited to be there. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, you'd think it would be something that you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of our politicians would want to have national security,

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Speaker 1: but as we learned, they do and they I think

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Speaker 1: it's because they're profiting off bits. And you know, we've

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Speaker 1: of things with this process. And what we did was

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Speaker 1: There was a half mile gap on the border and

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Speaker 1: mean it was crazy. It was like the Wild West

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Speaker 1: like stuff. You've seen the videos of people running across

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Speaker 1: in Europe and the property owner was sick of it.

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Speaker 1: The sick and tired of it. And he was an

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Speaker 1: eighty five year old Vietnam veteran, a fighter pilot and

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Speaker 1: a chemical engineer, very smart, and no one would do

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Speaker 1: anything for this guy. I mean the federal government denied

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Speaker 1: because it was impossible to build up the mountain. And

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Speaker 1: it just struck a chord with me and our team

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Speaker 1: were like, how can this be impossible? You know that

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Speaker 1: this shouldn't be impossible to build a wall, build a fence,

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Speaker 1: any type of barrier up this mountain. And that's what

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Speaker 1: we did. It took us less than a month and

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Speaker 1: we built it. And now this guy he has security

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Speaker 1: and not a single sent of build across since we

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Speaker 1: built it. It's amazing. I went from a hundred crossings

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Speaker 1: a day, one hundred people across the day out to

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Speaker 1: zero and then not a one in the sense we

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Speaker 1: built it. Just just just think about that, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have a you have a hundred crossings

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Speaker 1: a day illegally in just one little place. How How

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Speaker 1: big is the stretch? Bryan a half a mile a

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Speaker 1: half a mile and you're in you're stopping that, You're

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Speaker 1: stopping thirty six odd thousand people. A Yeah, now maybe

649
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Speaker 1: some of them are going elsewhere and whatever, But the

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Speaker 1: point is that you you you build on that, you

651
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Speaker 1: expand that, and you secure the nation's borders. Tell us

652
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Speaker 1: a little bit about how, you know, how you guys

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Speaker 1: did that, Like how did you fundraise for it? What

654
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Speaker 1: were the logistical things? And tell us about El Paso

655
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Speaker 1: next week. Yeah, Well, the fundraising was just a viral

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Speaker 1: campaign to build a border wine. I think it did

657
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Speaker 1: strect a chord with everyone who was fed up with

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Speaker 1: our federal government of not taking action, and it gave

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Speaker 1: people a way to donate and to speak up. And

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00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: they were speaking up by donating, and that's how we

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Speaker 1: raised every single penny and we raised over two million

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Speaker 1: dollars just from people giving five dollars. That's a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of five dollars donations the add up

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Speaker 1: to two million, and you know it just it gave

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Speaker 1: the American people a way to have direct impact and

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Speaker 1: know that every single dollar they were donating was going

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Speaker 1: to build something that would protect our nation and show

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Speaker 1: the federal government that we can get it done. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think it's in the time of crisis. Americans have

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Speaker 1: always come together to fix a problem or come together

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Speaker 1: to unite and get the job done. And that's what

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Speaker 1: we saw here. Um. And every every wall that we

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Speaker 1: build is basically it's protests wall. It's giving the middle

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Speaker 1: finger to these politicians in DC who say Americans don't

675
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: want it, and we're showing them that the Americans do

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Speaker 1: want it because they're building it themselves, mile by mile

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Speaker 1: and for half the cost. And you've taken and you've

678
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Speaker 1: taken the flat personally on this as well from in

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Speaker 1: a political sense, the media, you know, trying to smear

680
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Speaker 1: you and now the latest things they've come up with.

681
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Speaker 1: Oh and you're hitting roadblocks and you can't get it done.

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Speaker 1: Oh what do they think? I mean, here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You are a person who has come along to this

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Speaker 1: and said I want to build something that a lot

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Speaker 1: of the country wants. Right, and of course there are

686
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Speaker 1: going to be logistical problems. Of course that it's the

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Speaker 1: same in any business. It's the same in any line

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Speaker 1: of work. But they big it up and they say, oh, well,

689
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Speaker 1: you know they're failing and this thing will never get done. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: I can see the diggers, I've seen the videos, I've

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Speaker 1: seen the wall itself, and I'm flying down there to

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Speaker 1: El Paso with you next week. Tell us a little

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Speaker 1: bit about what's going down at the symposium next week

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Speaker 1: and how people can can be a part of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you go to our website, we build

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Speaker 1: a Wall dot us, there's a link that goes to

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Speaker 1: the Wall Symposium website and what this is we want

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Speaker 1: to invite you know, Americans and you know, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter what your political affiliation is. We want people to

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Speaker 1: come down there and see what we build. And also

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Speaker 1: we want to educate people and our politicians on what's

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Speaker 1: going on and what we've learned, and UM, bring everyone

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Speaker 1: together on this on the real crisis. And we've learned

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Speaker 1: that you know, there's a lot of there's chaos going

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Speaker 1: on at the border and certain politicians and certain people

706
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Speaker 1: are benefiting from this. They're they're benefitting from the chaos. Um,

707
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Speaker 1: it's all about money and it's only hurting the American

708
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Speaker 1: people and that they're they're enabling this crisis. And uh,

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Speaker 1: it's time that we start uniting and standing up and

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Speaker 1: educating people on what's going on. And this this is

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Speaker 1: what this is about about education and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: going into the twenty twenty elections, you want to make

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Speaker 1: sure that the right people are educated on what's really

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Speaker 1: going on because a lot of people don't understand what's

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Speaker 1: really going on. And that's why even Louis Gombert's coming

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Speaker 1: down there and saying he wants to see what's going

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Speaker 1: on and see what we've build and learn and learn

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Speaker 1: about all the craft going on and DC that we've

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Speaker 1: been dealing with. Yeah, you have you have an old

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Speaker 1: star cost coming down next week. I mean you, David

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Speaker 1: All see Sheriff David Clark, A Congressman, Louis Gomet, Mike Sanovich,

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Speaker 1: Adam Brandon, Chris Kobank who's going to be on the

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Speaker 1: show just after you, and of course yours truly Rahem

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Speaker 1: Kassam will be that. You know, this is going to

725
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Speaker 1: be quite the event. Um just tell us, look, you

726
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Speaker 1: can you can. You can put your name on a brick,

727
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Speaker 1: you can put your name on a ball. Odd, tell

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Speaker 1: us tell us a little bit about that and how

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Speaker 1: people can get involved with that. Yes, um, you know

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Speaker 1: that's just another another way to get the American people

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Speaker 1: involved that they want to um buy a brick. Um.

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Speaker 1: We're selling bricks for one hundred dollars and you put

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Speaker 1: your name on it and those bricks will go down

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Speaker 1: at the base of the wall. And there's many there's

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Speaker 1: other things that people can buy if you just go

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Speaker 1: to our website we build the Wall dot us and

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Speaker 1: has it in there. But this will be enshrined at

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Speaker 1: this wall for generations and it's it's a way to

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Speaker 1: take part in it. And with with that donation, it

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Speaker 1: goes to fund our next quarter wall segment, which we're

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Speaker 1: working on right now. And so it's very important that

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Speaker 1: you know we can keep we keep driving this for

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Speaker 1: we want to keep standing up so that these politicians

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Speaker 1: and DC you say that America that want it and

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Speaker 1: we're not going to stop building and some of money

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Speaker 1: runs out and it's people like yourself, are you know,

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Speaker 1: putting the word out there to keep this moving and

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Speaker 1: we really appreciate it. Well, Brian, we hope the money

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Speaker 1: never does run out. That's Brian Coulfage, We Build the

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Speaker 1: Wall dot US. Brian, thanks so much for joining us

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Speaker 1: here on the buck Sex in the show. So proud.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. Thanks for the support absolutely,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. We're going to have Chris Koback on

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Speaker 1: next as well. You will perhaps remember him has run

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Speaker 1: for Senates, has been one of the pioneers behind the

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Speaker 1: voter fraud investigations that have been taking place over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. Big, big supporter of the president,

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Speaker 1: and the President's a big sport of his. He's also

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Speaker 1: going to be down there in El Paso next week

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Speaker 1: where a lot of us are we trying to bring

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Speaker 1: attention to the fact that the border wall has not

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Speaker 1: been built because of the obstructionism in Washington, DC. And

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Speaker 1: so therefore, just as the founding of your nation, ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, citizen action is required. I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: pleased to be down there. This is the Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: My names or him, because on the phone lines are

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Speaker 1: open if you want to have your say, eight four

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Speaker 1: four nine hundred two eight two five eight four four

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Speaker 1: nine hundred bucks still to come on the show, as

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Speaker 1: I say, Chris Koeback, Matt Peterson of the Claremont Institute,

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Speaker 1: Peggy Grandy, who's going to be launching a new pro

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Speaker 1: Brexit organization in the United States, in a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: I'm want to talk to you about that and a

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Speaker 1: whole lot more. Stay tuned, we'll be right back. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. It's The Buck Sexton Show, broadcasting live

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Speaker 1: out of Washington, DC, Thursday the eighteenth of July two

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Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen. Delighted to have joining us now, Chris Koeback. Chris, good,

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Speaker 1: good evening to you. Great through with you. Well, depending

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Speaker 1: on where you are in the world. Where are you

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Speaker 1: in the world at the moment, I am in Kansas,

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Speaker 1: so it is oh, okay, it's just it's just into

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Speaker 1: the Chris. We sadolged you're joining us, and I think

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Speaker 1: you and I are going to bump into each other

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Speaker 1: next week down at the border in El Paso as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I want to talk to you a little bit

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Speaker 1: about that and your work. Would we build the ball

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Speaker 1: but you're also running again, tell us a little bit

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Speaker 1: about that before we move on to south or on

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Speaker 1: the border. Right. So, I threw my hat in the

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Speaker 1: race for an open US Senate seat representing Kansas, and

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Speaker 1: one of the driving issues is, of course, the failure

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Speaker 1: of the US Senate to move the ball on building

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Speaker 1: the wall. Indeed, the Senate has been dragged, kicking and screaming,

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Speaker 1: it seems, whenever the President wants to make progress, I'm

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Speaker 1: anything related to illegal immigration. And so, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping that in the United States Senate, I'll actually be

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Speaker 1: able to carry the flag to the President. And more specifically,

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Speaker 1: because I've been litigating as an attorney, I've been fighting

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Speaker 1: the ACLU and court on a number of these immigration issues,

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Speaker 1: representing ICE agents, representing cities like Hableton, Pennsylvania, be able

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Speaker 1: to you know, know more than the staffers do about

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Speaker 1: what statutes need to be changed, you know, how to

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Speaker 1: close the asylum loopholes. We really don't have an immigration

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Speaker 1: expert in the US Senate right now, and I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: to fill that void, not just for people of Kansas,

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Speaker 1: but for all Americans to care about this issue well.

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Speaker 1: And it's one of those seats where so many high

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Speaker 1: profile names have been thrown in there. You know, you've

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Speaker 1: had Mike Pompeio a jeep Pie. They've both declined on

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Speaker 1: that match lap the head of the ACU and all

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Speaker 1: these other guys. What sets you apart if you're doing

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Speaker 1: your sort of pitch to the Kansas audience of this

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Speaker 1: show right now, from from any other potential candidates. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's there's two things. One is, of course, my experience

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Speaker 1: on the immigration front, which is so critical. And then

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Speaker 1: the second is I was a professor of constitutional law

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Speaker 1: for fifteen years in the Kansas City area, and that

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Speaker 1: expertise I think is important right now in our country

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Speaker 1: because we've got so many constitutional principles that right down

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Speaker 1: to one vote in the United States Supreme Court, whether

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Speaker 1: you're talking about the Second Amendment, you're talking about the

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Speaker 1: commerce power and its abuse in the passing of Obamacare,

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Speaker 1: whether you're talking about the right to life, you name

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Speaker 1: the issue. It seems like almost every one is a

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Speaker 1: five four decision, including the ridiculous decision we got recently

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Speaker 1: saying that the United States could not ask on the

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Speaker 1: census whether a person is a citizen for an administrative reason,

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Speaker 1: not for a constitutional reason. And so it's absolutely important.

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Speaker 1: It's a very interesting point. Why is the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: weighing in on logistical concerns rather than what's constitutional or not.

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Speaker 1: So the AHL you threw everything they could at the

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Speaker 1: citizenship question, which is one of the things I've discussed

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Speaker 1: with President Trump, and I was one of the early

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Speaker 1: people to talk to him about that issue. And they

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Speaker 1: threw the a constitutional challenge, They threw a statutory challenge

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Speaker 1: under the Census Act, and then their last challenge they

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Speaker 1: threw in an administrative law challenge, and the US Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court said it. They denied the acl used constitutional challenge.

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Speaker 1: They said it's perfectly constitutional to ask this question and

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Speaker 1: it's been done for just about every census, and they

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Speaker 1: said it doesn't violate the Census Act. But on the

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Speaker 1: Administrative Procedure Act challenge, they went really into the into

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Speaker 1: the weeds and said, well, the way you gave the

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Speaker 1: justification for this Commerce Department is not quite right, and

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Speaker 1: we need you to do it all over again. And

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Speaker 1: because the Supreme Court issued its decisions so late in

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Speaker 1: the game, the Commerce Department decided that they weren't going

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Speaker 1: to try to rush through and do it a second

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Speaker 1: time under the administrat procedirect is an absolute disgrace. I

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Speaker 1: think it's an absolute disgrace, Chris. I mean, honestly, this

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Speaker 1: is this is something that's taking place in almost every

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Speaker 1: single US census that has ever been and it's something

853
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Speaker 1: that at this point in time, I'm sure you would

854
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Speaker 1: agree is needed now more than ever. Oh, it absolutely

855
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Speaker 1: is needed. They're too There are multiple big reasons, I

856
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Speaker 1: guess the three biggest ones are. First of all, we've

857
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Speaker 1: got so many non citizens living in the United States

858
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Speaker 1: right now that we have a gross violation of the

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Speaker 1: principle of one man or one person, one vote. Let's

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Speaker 1: imagine that you live in you know, in California, in

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Speaker 1: a district that has three hundred fifty thousand citizens and

862
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Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty thousand non citizens. I live in

863
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Speaker 1: Kansas and there are seven hundred thousand citizens and virtually

864
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Speaker 1: no non citizens. So let's just imagine your vote is

865
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Speaker 1: twice as strong as mine because you have half the

866
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: number of voters in your district. And the Supreme Court

867
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Speaker 1: ruled more than fifty years ago, but you can't have

868
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Speaker 1: unequal district sizes. So that's one reason. Another is that

869
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment requires the United States to know how

870
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Speaker 1: many citizens it has, which is absolutely essential. And another

871
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: reason is, you know, we've been estimating how many legal

872
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: aliens we have for decades now, and nobody really knows.

873
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: It could be eleven million, it could be thirty millions.

874
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: If we ask this question. On the census, you can

875
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Speaker 1: deduce pretty quickly how many you have because you then

876
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: know how many aliens and how many citizens you have,

877
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: and you can subtract the number of legal aliens that

878
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: are currently authorized to be in the United States from

879
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: the number of total number of aliens, and you can

880
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: actually get a pretty accurate account of illegal aliens. But

881
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: of course, travesty that's on there. But we hope, we

882
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: hope President Trump's ways of getting around that will be equally,

883
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: if not more accurate in terms of identifying that. The

884
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: jury is still out. Let's talk a little bit about

885
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: where we'll be next week al Paso. Yes, Chris, we

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00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: build a wall dot US. We just had Brian Colpage

887
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: on the show as well, just before you gave us

888
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: a little rundown of what's going on there. Tell us

889
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: why it's so important to you and why you think

890
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: people should be involved. Well, let me put it in

891
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: a personal perspective. So I've been fighting the fight on

892
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: the immigration issue for the better part of two decades

893
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: and including helping draft Arizona's SP ten seventy, representing ICE

894
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Speaker 1: agents against the ahlu are Sorry, against the Obama administration,

895
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Speaker 1: and of all the things I've done, I have to say,

896
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: we build the Walls project has been the most exciting

897
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: and tangible. We have actually, for the first time in

898
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Speaker 1: American history, put up privately constructed wall on the border

899
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Speaker 1: of the United States. And it's superior to the wall

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Speaker 1: constructed by the US government. It's similar, but superior in

901
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: many respects. And so it's an amazing opportunity for people

902
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: to get involved and actually do something tangible to improve

903
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: the security United States. And you can see your money

904
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Speaker 1: going to work. And so this conference down on the

905
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 1: border next week is partly about the building of the wall,

906
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: but it's also about the larger issue of why we

907
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: have a crisis in immigration right now. You'll be there speaking,

908
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: I'll be there speaking a whole host of experts from

909
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: all over the country, and indeed all over the world

910
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: will be coming in to speak about why we need

911
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: to secure our border and the various crises that are involved.

912
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Please go back, tell people where they

913
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: can go to check out more about your campaign. Maybe

914
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: if they fancy donating, they might do that too. Yes,

915
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: if anyone wants to support the campaign or just find

916
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: out more, they can go to my website, which is

917
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Speaker 1: Chris Koback dot com. It's k R I S. Kobac

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Speaker 1: dot com. Thank you so much for joining us here

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Speaker 1: this Thursday afternoon, Chris Koeback, My pleasure, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: The phone lines are open. I want your response to

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Speaker 1: all of these things at eight four four nine hundred

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Speaker 1: two eight two five eight four four nine hundred buck

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Speaker 1: is the number here. We're gonna go to a quick break,

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Speaker 1: and I have segmented the next section out for you guys,

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Speaker 1: So don't be shy. Hop on the lines. If you're hostile,

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Speaker 1: if you're favorable, if you're somewhere in between, you have

927
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Speaker 1: a question, if you have a comment. I love hearing

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Speaker 1: from you guys out there. Eight four four nine hundred

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Speaker 1: two eight two five. This is the Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm rahem because we'll be right back. Welcome back. It's

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Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. I'm rahem becauseum filling in for

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Speaker 1: the traveling Buck Sexton this evening broadcasting live out of Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1: Phone lines are open eight four two five eight four

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Speaker 1: nine hundred buck. Coming to you guys on the lines. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's go to line two. Anthony's in Baltimore, Anthony Good evening, Well,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that I really don't think

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's a racist at heart. I think because of

938
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Speaker 1: the way he was brought up, you know, kind of

939
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Speaker 1: insulated and living the lifestyle of you know that his

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Speaker 1: father provided him, he didn't really grasp at depth of

941
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Speaker 1: what racism really is. But he's been unligned with it because,

942
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Speaker 1: you know, like during the Obama time when he was

943
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: he said he had the proof that Obama wasn't a citizen,

944
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Speaker 1: and that kind of played into the narrative that was

945
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Speaker 1: going on because you know, most black people here in

946
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Speaker 1: this country have the names of the people who owned,

947
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Speaker 1: you know, when doing slavery. Obama came with a real

948
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Speaker 1: African name, and you know that it's you know, it

949
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: kind of you know, created a stare amongst folks that

950
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Speaker 1: were willing to believe he wasn't a citizen. And when

951
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Speaker 1: the NFL players got down on their knees begging for

952
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Speaker 1: the same liberty that everyone else has, you know, I

953
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: think he kind of fell in line with putting them down,

954
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Speaker 1: not really knowing the extent of the terrorism that black people,

955
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Speaker 1: including myself, have endured for decades in this country. I mean,

956
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Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it was, it was, it was terrible.

957
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: But you know, I think if he had, if he

958
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Speaker 1: had handled the NFL situation differently, I think he'd had

959
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Speaker 1: black people in his camp solidly Democrat, repubn whatever they are.

960
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: But you know, I think you get wrong advice on

961
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Speaker 1: that because what was going on on the street, you know,

962
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know and don't think that it's you know,

963
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean people say if people don't like this country

964
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Speaker 1: should go. I mean, black people lived in this country

965
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Speaker 1: for a couple of hundred years and they couldn't have

966
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Speaker 1: been happy with the way they were treated. But they

967
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: put too much into building this country too me, So

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Speaker 1: you know, And I think, Anthony, you bring up some

969
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: really interesting points because there are so many distinctions to

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Speaker 1: be made where right, there are so many. It's like

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Speaker 1: for me, it gets very and like you, I come

972
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: from a sort of ethnic minority background. Although it doesn't

973
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: you don't really care. It doesn't doesn't define who I am,

974
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: and I very care about it. When I get the left, however,

975
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: telling me how I should think and how I should act,

976
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: and how I should feel about something, how I should vote,

977
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: how I should behave as a result of all those things,

978
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: then it starts a sort of way on me and

979
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: grind my ears, and you know, like you, I don't think.

980
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean, look, if Donald Trump had been a racist

981
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: for any part of his career, for any part of

982
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: his life, we would have known about it way before

983
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: the political campaign of twenty sixteen. And we would have

984
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: known about it way before Elie Omar started flapping. It

985
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: was about it as well. It's worth food for discrimination

986
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Speaker 1: and housing. But again, you know, I think, yeah, but

987
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Speaker 1: also Anthony, don't forget he also won an award. He

988
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Speaker 1: won an award. He's pictured there winning an award from

989
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: from ethnic minority. So this swings in life. You know,

990
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: not everything is just clear cut. Yeah, I know it's not.

991
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: That's why I say I don't believe he's a racist. Yeah,

992
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: I agree, I just believe that, you know, because of

993
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Speaker 1: the way he was raised, he was somewhat insulated from

994
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: what we you know, say would be a down south,

995
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: down hardcore racist. I know that can and you know

996
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: I lived a month from and I sort of damage

997
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: that he did to my father and family and what

998
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: they did to me. But you know, I don't think

999
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: he had any clue to that. And that comes from

1000
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: you know, him having a life in commercial real estate.

1001
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if he'd have been a studied sociology or

1002
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: you know some other you know, it might have given

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00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: him more insight whether he could have you know, meld

1004
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Speaker 1: his position. And I mean, I'm a I'm a hardcore listen,

1005
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: but man like a baby. When George Bush died, and

1006
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: I have to say this, I am so glad for

1007
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: so very many reasons that this president never studied sociology. Okay,

1008
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: there is so many we have. We have this joke

1009
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: in England where I'm from about the allergies, right, and

1010
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: how people go into into pseudosciences and social sciences because

1011
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: they don't know how to build anything, and they don't

1012
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: want to create anything, and they don't want to risk

1013
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: take anything themselves. And this is something this man has done.

1014
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this and today, how do you

1015
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: let's let's take President Trump out of this equation for

1016
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: a second, how do you think that the country should

1017
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: receive the squad Eli Omar and Rashida Talaev and AOC

1018
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: and all these guys are you are you a fine?

1019
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: What do you think we should do with them? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I am opposed to any band on Americans

1021
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Speaker 1: that prohibit them from protesting anything. Include No, I'm not

1022
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: talking about that. I'm not talking about that. You and

1023
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: I will agree on that. We're both liberals in that sense.

1024
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Speaker 1: But the issues she brought up, you know, we shouldn't

1025
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: be able to you know, you shouldn't lose your job

1026
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: because you boycott or have an opinion about a country.

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Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean you're anti Semitic just because you

1028
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: don't like Israeli policies, you know, I mean, I can

1029
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Speaker 1: be convinced that, you know, for strategic reasons, we maybe

1030
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: need to support Israel. But I think in this country

1031
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: we got off track thinking that they are the biblical

1032
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: Hebrews or the descendants of Christ, and they are not there.

1033
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: You know, the converts from the you know, Cassarian Kingdom

1034
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: on the King's and they converted to Judius Anthony. That's

1035
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: that's Anthony. That's all fine, But what do you That's

1036
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: all fine for you to have and to hold as

1037
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: as an opinion to say that thing, But what do

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01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,919
Speaker 1: you do when you have a sitting congresswoman who has

1039
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Speaker 1: all I mean, I guess you've been listening to the

1040
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: whole show, did you did you hear me at the beginning?

1041
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: What do you do when you have the sketchy backs

1042
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: as far as what she has said? You know, these

1043
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: are the these are sore points in this country because

1044
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: you know, you really can't criticize the goodnment of Israel

1045
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: without repercussions, you know, senious repercussions. I mean, well, and

1046
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: I and I and I respect you for for for

1047
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: saying that and being clean about it. But there are

1048
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people in this country you will accept,

1049
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: and in my country and all across Europe antony who

1050
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: who both want to criticize the government of Israel and

1051
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: one to criticize quote unquote the Jews. As a result,

1052
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Speaker 1: you understand that those people exist, right, Yeah, I mean

1053
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Speaker 1: I understand that. But you know, you know, like I say,

1054
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Speaker 1: I can be convinced to you know, to support strategic reasons.

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Speaker 1: We've we've sup supported worst governments in Israel for strategic reasons.

1056
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: But you know, but the main reason we're behind Israel

1057
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: is everyone has the assumption that they are somehow related

1058
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Speaker 1: to the biblical Hebrews. They are not. They are comm

1059
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Speaker 1: not shrump start a converted converted to Judaism. This is this, this,

1060
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Speaker 1: this has been the big fraud. I mean, they call

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Speaker 1: you anti Semitic, and Semitic is a class of languages

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Speaker 1: and all of them are indigenous to Africa. Arabic is

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Speaker 1: a Semitic language, you know. Almanic is a Semitic andy.

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Speaker 1: We really got we really got thirty seconds left in

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Speaker 1: this uh in this anton ant. They appreciate it. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to leave there. We're gonna go thirty seconds

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Speaker 1: left until hard break. Believe me, if I could take

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Speaker 1: us beyond, I would, But they tend to get a

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Speaker 1: little bit mad when I cut their advertisers off. But Anthony,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for the call. I do disagree

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Speaker 1: in your in your analysis there of why the United

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Speaker 1: States has strategically supported the Nation of Israel, the Jewish

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Speaker 1: state for all these years. I think there's far more

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Speaker 1: to it than just, you know, believing in the descendency

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Speaker 1: of certain people. I think it is the only free

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Speaker 1: nation in the entire region, and I think that means

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Speaker 1: a lot, an awful lot to a lot of people

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Speaker 1: in the Western world. This is the Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Aham Kassam We're going to be right back after

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Speaker 1: this break. Buck Sexton Remission, decoding the news and disseminating

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Speaker 1: information with actionable intelligence. Manor mistake, America, You're a great

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Speaker 1: American again. This is the Buck Sexton Show. Pharma, CIA analysts, No,

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Speaker 1: welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It's the Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: My name's Raheim Kausam, global lecterer in chief of Human

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Speaker 1: Events dot Com, Reagan's old favorite magazine, filling in for

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. Here from a very very sweaty Washington DC.

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Speaker 1: It's one hundred degrees in the swamp and it's sweltering hot.

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Speaker 1: And I took the decision to walk to the Freedom

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Speaker 1: Hut today and that was a very very big mistake.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you that you'll probably noticed this if

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Speaker 1: you know any English people, any people that were born

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Speaker 1: and raised in the United Kingdom. In fact, that we

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Speaker 1: really enjoy talking about the weather. We could talk about

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Speaker 1: the weather all day long, and I'm very often tempted

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Speaker 1: to do just that. But I sha'n't bore you with

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Speaker 1: any more details about what it's like here in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. I want to hear from you guys out there,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily just about the weather. It's eight four four

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Speaker 1: nine two eight two five eight four four nine hundred

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Speaker 1: buck is the number here on the show. And if

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Speaker 1: you missed any of the last two hours, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: want to go and listen back. We've had some great

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Speaker 1: calls from you guys out there, some great counterpoints, as

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Speaker 1: well as a series of phenomenal guests on the show.

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Speaker 1: I hope you agree. If you want to communicate with

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Speaker 1: me and you don't fancy calling in, maybe maybe you're

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Speaker 1: a little nervous, maybe you haven't called into a radio

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Speaker 1: show before, I would encourage you to drop the insecurity

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Speaker 1: and give us a call. But if not, I'm on

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Speaker 1: all the social media platforms at Rahemcasam, h E, M

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Speaker 1: K A, S. Sam. If you've got any good points

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Speaker 1: to make, tweet them at me all that stuff. We'll

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Speaker 1: read them out as the show goes on. I'm delighted

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Speaker 1: to be joined now by one of my great heroes,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Peterson from the Claremont Institute, one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: think tanks in the entire world, and of course I'm

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Speaker 1: a massive nerd, so I would have a favorite think

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Speaker 1: tank list. Matt Thanks for joying us here on the show. Grehem,

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Speaker 1: it's great to be here and bring word from a

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Speaker 1: place where we don't have the amenity and it's not

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Speaker 1: a swamp, sunny southern California, which actually does have a

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Speaker 1: conservative think tank. I know, it's extraordinary. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't know about it. And well, hopefully we'll have

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Speaker 1: the time in this segment for you to give the

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Speaker 1: Claremont Institute and your new website to the American Mind,

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Speaker 1: which is an American Mind dot org. We'll give it

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Speaker 1: another plug later on. Well, I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about this fantastic article you've written. It's called Stiffening

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Speaker 1: the Backbone of the Right. It was published on American Greatness,

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Speaker 1: which is another one of my favorite sites. Matthew, talk

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Speaker 1: us through this I guess call to arms that you've issued,

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Speaker 1: because it's getting a lot of traction on the conservative interwebs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so this actually stems from the reaction that I see,

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Speaker 1: and I see this reaction all the time in the

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Speaker 1: conservative world, especially in the intellectual side of it, where

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Speaker 1: people go, oh my gosh, hold on a minute, the

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Speaker 1: left can't actually do this, that's terrible. How could they?

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Speaker 1: And I just you know, I think anyone who's sensible.

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Speaker 1: The people are leading right now, not the intellectuals, thank god,

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Speaker 1: the people are out in front. But you know, anyone

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Speaker 1: who's sensible on this knows, of course there's no rules

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Speaker 1: for the left, That's how they operate. And so I

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Speaker 1: wrote this up ed because people were saying, how could

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Speaker 1: CNN give a platform to an actual neo Nazi, Richard Spencer,

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Speaker 1: who they put on air to call Trump's tweets racist?

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Speaker 1: How could they do that? And you saw people on

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Speaker 1: the right and the left saying this, and I just

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Speaker 1: I just thought, guys, we know they don't care. There

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Speaker 1: are no rules for them. They don't have to apologize

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Speaker 1: for any of this stuff. They don't operate in the

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Speaker 1: in the same you know, universe of physical laws that

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Speaker 1: the right has to and it's just three years into

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Speaker 1: Trump that we stopped playing by their rules. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: put a little bit of context around this for the

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Speaker 1: people that don't know out there. The Richard Spencer is

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Speaker 1: this guy who is an avowed white nationalist, an avowed

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Speaker 1: ethno nationalist. He has almost nothing in common with the

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Speaker 1: real right, but he's been held as this flag bearer,

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Speaker 1: as this torch bearer for what has become known as

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Speaker 1: the alt right for so very many years now that

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Speaker 1: we can't stop hearing about him, even though he's got

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Speaker 1: really no reach, no pull, no institution, no organization, no

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Speaker 1: cardret of individuals, intellectual or otherwise that support him, And

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Speaker 1: time and time again the media and the establishment political

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Speaker 1: classes have tried to tie him and is very very

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Speaker 1: small group of friends to the Trump administration and to conservatism.

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Speaker 1: And of course no right wing outlets have ever sought

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Speaker 1: to promote Richard Spencer. But the one who did this

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Speaker 1: week was not a right wing outlet. It was CNN.

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Speaker 1: CNN puts him on television to rebuke Trump and to

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Speaker 1: rebuke the Trump administration as if to say, you're losing

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Speaker 1: your core support. But this person was never part of

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Speaker 1: the core support, never part of one of the one

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Speaker 1: of the stools legs of the stools of the of

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Speaker 1: the of the Trump base. So it's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a ropodope that's been going on here, And I just

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Speaker 1: don't understand. It doesn't really compute to me about how

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Speaker 1: Brian Stelter and Oliver Darcy and Chris Cuomo and Jake

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Speaker 1: Tapper and all of these guys who waxed lyrical day

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Speaker 1: in and day out over the dangers of promoting the

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Speaker 1: old right and the ethno nationalists and all these guys.

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Speaker 1: They then put him on national television, right and and raheem,

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Speaker 1: I mean exactly right. And as you know, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: the big tech platforms will cut you off for something

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Speaker 1: much less than covorting around with you know, neo Nazis

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Speaker 1: or spouting hate. I mean, so so here they are

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Speaker 1: flagrant hypocrisy. Did They wanted him on air though, because

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Speaker 1: they wanted him to say that Trump's tweets were great

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Speaker 1: and they were racist, and he did, but then he

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Speaker 1: immediately went on to say to complain that Trump has

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Speaker 1: done nothing for white nationalists, and then they kind of

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Speaker 1: cut the interview off. But but you know, my point

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Speaker 1: is they don't care, right, I mean, they don't have

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Speaker 1: to care because they don't have to play by the

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Speaker 1: same rules they impose on everybody else. So what's your solution, Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, your rop ed was read out

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Speaker 1: this morning, I think by the Great Russia Limbaugh correct

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Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, which gets a whole load of traction.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you've had a whole lot of eyes

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Speaker 1: on this thing. Just condense it down to us. What

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Speaker 1: do you say, what are the solutions? Where are you

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Speaker 1: going with this? Yeah, well, I think the point is

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Speaker 1: I'm just to give some other examples besides race. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: mainstream media outlets, as I say, don't have to apologize

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Speaker 1: for wild conspiracy theories that terrify half the country, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have to apologize for not believing them

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Speaker 1: about Russian college. They don't have to apologize for spreading

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Speaker 1: crazy stories about Justice Kavanaugh being a serial gang rapist.

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Speaker 1: But you have to believe all women, right, So this

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Speaker 1: is the game they play. So the solution is very important.

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Speaker 1: I think people have to start to recognize when they're

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Speaker 1: playing by the left's rules. They have to stand up

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Speaker 1: and be courageous and reject that entire framework. And that's

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Speaker 1: going to take some doing. And I think people really

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Speaker 1: need to think, they need to study up on the

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Speaker 1: problem of identity politics and political correctness. This isn't these

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Speaker 1: these phrases are referred to dangerous ideas that are that

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Speaker 1: are impacting America in a very serious way. And we

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Speaker 1: have to understand what's going on and what this framework

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Speaker 1: of the left is. And I mean there's plenty on

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Speaker 1: the American mind dot org about the danger of entity

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Speaker 1: politics and political correctness, which has become its own religion

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Speaker 1: at this point, and there's all kinds of things we

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Speaker 1: can do to fight against it, but first we have

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Speaker 1: to understand it. And ultimately, I think all Americans should

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Speaker 1: rest on the principle that all human beings are created

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Speaker 1: equal according to the laws of nature and Nature's God,

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Speaker 1: and that means that racism on both sides is a problem.

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Speaker 1: But we need to we need to acknowledge when the

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Speaker 1: left is playing a double standard, right, And that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what's going on. And that's why people are so mad

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Speaker 1: and stand with Trump against the squad, because they see

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Speaker 1: they see the you know, they see the way the

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Speaker 1: squad thinks about America, and it's it's not a matter

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Speaker 1: of treating all people equally. I think that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I wrote, I wrote I wouldn't say something similar,

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Speaker 1: but in a similar sort of thread of thought yesterday

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Speaker 1: on human events. Everyone's gone nuts for power and profit

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Speaker 1: was that was the name of the article, and it

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Speaker 1: sort of goes through I don't know if you see

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Speaker 1: this sort of exactly how this new outrage over Chris Pratt,

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Speaker 1: this actor wearing a T shirt with the Adsden flag

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Speaker 1: on it came about effectively, there were four or five

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Speaker 1: people on Twitter who complained about this, obviously not knowing

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Speaker 1: the gads and flag's history and any of that. And

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Speaker 1: then Yahoo News takes the tweets and says Chris Pratt

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Speaker 1: criticized for wearing this racist T shirt or whatever they

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Speaker 1: said about it, and then the whole country has to

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Speaker 1: work itself into a tizzy in order to play Kate,

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Speaker 1: this writer at Yahoo News who's decided to create a

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Speaker 1: national ferraria over something that really isn't controversial at all,

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Speaker 1: and just time and time again, and to adopt an

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Speaker 1: American colloquialism. As you know, I'm not often want to do, Matt.

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Speaker 1: They're playing us, yes, yes, And that's the thing I mean.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's important for people to realize that

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Speaker 1: there's lots of normal people out there who certainly care about,

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Speaker 1: you know, opposing racism and making sure that people are

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Speaker 1: treated equally. That's the point, to treat people equally under

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Speaker 1: the law that is America. But everyone is starting I

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Speaker 1: think increasingly, more and more people on the writer are

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Speaker 1: starting to realize that in the hands of the left,

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Speaker 1: this is just a tool. This is just a tool

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Speaker 1: for power. They don't have to abide by the same rules. Right,

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Speaker 1: they can stay governor even though they make sick jokes

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Speaker 1: about blackface in the KKK. Well they're in medical school.

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Speaker 1: But god forbid, you know you're committing microaggressions. You're not

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Speaker 1: even aware of an ancestors you never knew. You must

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Speaker 1: atoned for, right. I mean, this is ridiculous and so

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Speaker 1: so so in what we need our leaders who can

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Speaker 1: stand up against it. And this is in large part

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Speaker 1: Trump's success because by not backing down, by by sticking

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Speaker 1: you know, his his his flag, planning his flag. People

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Speaker 1: rally around that because they're looking for someone to call

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Speaker 1: the game what it is. Matt, I assure you there

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Speaker 1: is nothing micro about my aggressions. Okay, now I know

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Speaker 1: this Firsthandpa, I'll just test a fire to that who

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Speaker 1: to the audience for him that has macroaggression problems, you know,

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Speaker 1: on a daily basis. Matt, tell us the way we

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Speaker 1: can find more about your work at the Claremont Institute

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Speaker 1: in the American Mind. You can go to American Mind

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Speaker 1: dot org and Claremont dot org to learn more about

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Speaker 1: the Claremont Institute and full disclosure, I am at Claremont Institute,

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Fellow, and therefore I will say subscribe also to

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Speaker 1: the Claremont Review of Books. It is one of the

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Speaker 1: most magnificent reads you can get in through your mailbox

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Speaker 1: and it's not a lie because CRB has arrived on

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Speaker 1: my doorstep that day. That is how committed I am

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Speaker 1: to that. Matt Peterson, thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us here on the Buck sex in the show. Oh

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Speaker 1: thank you as well. Thanks again anytime, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: make sure you're on the phone lines. It's eight Fri four,

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Speaker 1: nine hundred two eight two five eight foot four, nine

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Speaker 1: hundred buck going to come to you guys pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: Got a couple of more great interviewees for you. In

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Speaker 1: the meantime, we're going to be right back with more

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Speaker 1: after this short break. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Rahim Kassam, the editor in chief of

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Speaker 1: Human Events dot com, joining you for the last gosh

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Speaker 1: half an hour or so the show. Where does the

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Speaker 1: time go? Ladies and gentlemen, the phone lines are open

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Speaker 1: here eight four four nine hundred two eight two five

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Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred buck. There's breaking news coming

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Speaker 1: out of the straight of Alma's, out of the Gulf

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Speaker 1: of Alma's, and breaking news coming out of the White House.

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Speaker 1: As a result, I've got Adam Credo, one of the

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Speaker 1: senior reporters at the Washington Free Beacon and a great

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Speaker 1: friend of mine, joining me on the line now to

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Speaker 1: help us and pack that. The headline of the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal right now, Trump says, us ship down to

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Speaker 1: Iranian drone in the straight of Almos. Adam, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Help us, help us unpack this. Yeah, thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me man, So I will pointing up the

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Speaker 1: Iranians denied that a drone was lost, so it's kind

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Speaker 1: of unclear. I tend to believe the President more than

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Speaker 1: I do the Iranians, given their pattern of why all

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Speaker 1: of the time, and of course cheating on the nuclear program.

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Speaker 1: But this is a little bit of tit for tat.

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Speaker 1: I also got to say, I don't see the Iranians

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Speaker 1: as doing more in reaction to this than continuing to

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Speaker 1: throw temper tantrums, which is what they've been doing, their

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Speaker 1: harassment of tankers in the Persian Gulf and the straighter

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Speaker 1: her moves like you mentioned, also their downing of our drone.

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Speaker 1: These are provocative actions, but actually agreed with the President

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Speaker 1: when he called off a military strike. It really didn't

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Speaker 1: seem to be worth it for what they were doing.

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Speaker 1: This is as always Iran acting poorly in order to

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Speaker 1: try to get the Europeans and of course the United

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Speaker 1: States to roll back some of these harsh sanctions and

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Speaker 1: save their economy right, and it doesn't seem to be working. Actually,

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Speaker 1: people seem to be wising up, or is my good

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Speaker 1: friend Steve Bannon always says getting the joke. The Europeans

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Speaker 1: especially are quite a quite laccadacicle and woolly on this.

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Speaker 1: Wanted to stick with the Iran deal when it was

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Speaker 1: even abundantly clear that they the Iranians, had no intent

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Speaker 1: of following along with it. And now even the Europeans

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Speaker 1: seemed to be waking up, The Germans, the French seemed

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Speaker 1: to be waking up to what the Iranians really are

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Speaker 1: all about. I mean it, It sort of is evident

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Speaker 1: to the everyman, but hasn't been evident to the career

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Speaker 1: political classes and the career civil service classes across Europe

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Speaker 1: for some time now. The Iranians also saying that they

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Speaker 1: have seized an an oil tanker and its crew in

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Speaker 1: the last couple of hours, which sort of ups the

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Speaker 1: anti I suppose, But again, these guys are not used

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Speaker 1: to really following through on their threats. There's been a

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Speaker 1: lot of threats in the last couple of weeks, but

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Speaker 1: no real action as a result. Tell us, Adam, this

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Speaker 1: is your beat. You cover this day in and day out.

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Speaker 1: You have probably the best source network in Washington, DC

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Speaker 1: and beyond. On this topic, do the Iranians actually have

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Speaker 1: anything to say but rattle about? Yeah, they do. When

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Speaker 1: they don't look, they can cause trouble. They are armed

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Speaker 1: to the teeth over there. I mean, it's not necessarily

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Speaker 1: a match for the United States in a full on

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Speaker 1: military conflict or maybe you would absolutely decimate them. But

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Speaker 1: they can do what they've always done, and that's terrorism,

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Speaker 1: whether it's through the IRGC they're or military fighting force

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Speaker 1: or the terror groups they sponsor like Zabola and Lebanon

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Speaker 1: and Hamas and the guys a strip over there, and

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Speaker 1: I would certainly expect them to continue this type of stuff,

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Speaker 1: but raise an interesting point about the Europeans may be

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Speaker 1: kind of finally coming around and realizing that appeasement, stopping

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Speaker 1: sanctions doing business with Iran actually did nothing. They continue

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Speaker 1: to cheat it to deal. We know now that that

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Speaker 1: we're supposed to dismantle the Fordale military bunker that's built

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Speaker 1: into the side of a mountain and that housed their

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Speaker 1: nuclear weapons program. That never happened. They completely did not

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Speaker 1: live up to that portion of the agreement. So as

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Speaker 1: this information starts to trickle out, I think the Europeans

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Speaker 1: are saying, well, the approach we've been taking has not

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Speaker 1: been working. Maybe there's a better way. And from the

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Speaker 1: end of the Trump administration they've been pushing the UN

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Speaker 1: Security Council now to invoke snapback that's the snapback of

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Speaker 1: international sanctions that, in addition to what the administration's doing

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Speaker 1: just with the US, would completely cripple the Iranian economy

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Speaker 1: more than it already is and potentially spark popular protests

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Speaker 1: in the country. And we've we've seen a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that already. Some of the reporting that you do,

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes can escape the general public. You know,

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Speaker 1: you do a lot of in depth reporting on what's

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Speaker 1: going on to state in Polman was going on with

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Speaker 1: the Iranian nuclear deal and someone and so forth. But

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Speaker 1: you know, just going through a litany of your arsicles

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Speaker 1: over the course of the last couple of days, out

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Speaker 1: of my notes is that there are things that are

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Speaker 1: just not talked about outside of experts on the matter,

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Speaker 1: like you, For instance, you had the think Iran cult

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Speaker 1: smuggling new materials out of the US. What what what

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Speaker 1: was that? What's going on there? Yeah, So this is

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Speaker 1: something that happened between around two thousand and eight and

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. Uranian agent Uranian nationals I would call them

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Speaker 1: what they are, spies, members of their intelligence service actually

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Speaker 1: were involved in a plot to smuggle outcarbon ciber. Now

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Speaker 1: that doesn't sound so serious, but it is a controlled

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Speaker 1: substance and regulated precisely because it can be used to

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Speaker 1: enriched uranium, which we all know the raniums love to do.

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Speaker 1: They've blown past caps on the restrictions on the amount

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Speaker 1: of moderately to highly enriched uranium making stockpile in the country,

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Speaker 1: and all of these efforts are towards that, going towards

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Speaker 1: that end of enriching uranium to weapons grade purity. So

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Speaker 1: these three individ jewels. Actually we're found during the time

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Speaker 1: the Obama administration was on the international stage negotiating this

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Speaker 1: deal that Donald Trump removed the US from these Irradian spies,

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Speaker 1: we're running around trying to export it. Adam, Adam, hang

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Speaker 1: on the line. We've got to jump to a quick break.

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Speaker 1: Hang on the line. We're gonna come back to you

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Speaker 1: after the quick break and we can finish on this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show. Welcome back is the

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. It's Thursday, the eighteenth of July twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and a whole lot going on today, and a whole

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Speaker 1: lot I'm sure we'll continued to go on. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem like there's any less of the news lately, and

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Speaker 1: the breaking news out of the Middle East at the

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Speaker 1: moment is the US is claiming to have shot down

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Speaker 1: an Iranian drone. We've got Adam Creedo, senior writer at

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Speaker 1: the Washington Freebeacon, who's stuck with us on the line.

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Speaker 1: Very kindly, Adam, thank you so much, my pleasure. I

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Speaker 1: did some level grinding and final fan if you will. Adam,

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Speaker 1: a man after my own heart, likes likes the likes

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Speaker 1: a video game or two. Adam, we'll we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that more offline, because I have recently been taking to

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Speaker 1: World War Z or World War Z as you guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no there's nothing better than watching sort of fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand zombies charging at you and you're trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out how to stop. But that's good, and you know

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Speaker 1: that's a great analogy for the Iranian proper. Adam, you

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Speaker 1: were talking to us before about this um more serious

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Speaker 1: issue than video games, which is IRN smuggling nuclear materials

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Speaker 1: out of the US. But I just want to reiterate

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Speaker 1: for the audience here, what do you think when something

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Speaker 1: like this happens. Now you've now you've had the drone

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Speaker 1: on the US side done, You've also had a retaliator

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Speaker 1: reaction from the US in terms of destroying some of

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Speaker 1: the cyber commanding control in Iran over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. And now you're seeing this as well, the

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Speaker 1: US actually taking action themselves to remove Iranian hardware from

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Speaker 1: the skies. For somebody like you who's been in this

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Speaker 1: business for a very long time and can kind of

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Speaker 1: to some extent predict what happens next, what happens next, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm very cautious about saying there's going to be a war.

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Speaker 1: I know that people like to use that rhetoric, particularly

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Speaker 1: the old Obama era officials who formed that nuclear deal.

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Speaker 1: They say that every heavy of sanctions, every salvo the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration makes marches us closer to war. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's true. I don't. I don't believe that rhetoric.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think that they forward that rhetoric for

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Speaker 1: lack of a better argument about staying in the deal,

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Speaker 1: and the deal should have remained. That it's a distraction

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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. But yeah, look, we are

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Speaker 1: marching closer to this coming to a head. How that happens,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Could it be through diplomacy most likely,

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Speaker 1: I would think, Could it be renegotiating the deal, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure at this point. I don't think the Irani

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Speaker 1: are open to it, and they certainly at this point

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Speaker 1: still has a willing partner in the Europeans, who have

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Speaker 1: upheld their commitments under the deal in terms of rolling

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Speaker 1: back sanctions, giving them money and of their cash windfall.

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Speaker 1: So it truly is hard and I'm very sorry about that,

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Speaker 1: by the way. Yeah, and you know, yeah, I do

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Speaker 1: blame you. I would also say this was a footnote again,

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Speaker 1: something nobody really paid attention to. But I look at

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Speaker 1: these things that these States departments just sanctioned again today

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Speaker 1: networks and affiliates tied to Iran's weapons of mass destruction programs.

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Speaker 1: So let us not forget that they do continue to

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Speaker 1: march towards nuclear weapons. They want to know how, and

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Speaker 1: the restrictions on their uranium enrichment and work at this

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Speaker 1: ford outside I mentioned and other military bunkers has actually

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Speaker 1: continued unembedded, and that I don't if itself, really reveals

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Speaker 1: what a sham this deal is. But now you see

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Speaker 1: this Obama echo chamber, and surprisingly they're Republican allies, these

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Speaker 1: libertarians like Rand Paul, who I think they're trying to

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Speaker 1: tie the President's hands. I don't think they'll win. I

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Speaker 1: think he understands what they're up to, and I should

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Speaker 1: actually have some news about that tomorrow. Wow. Well, Adam,

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Speaker 1: tell the audience where they can read more of your

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Speaker 1: news and follow you absolutely Freebeacon dot com and my

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Speaker 1: Twitter credo and the number zero follow me on there

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Speaker 1: at yeah k R E D zero. Adam, thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us here on the bucks. I appreciate have

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Speaker 1: a good one on Final Fantasy or whatever video game

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Speaker 1: you've decided to take. Take a load off with this evening.

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Speaker 1: This is the buck sext to share the fanlines. Tore

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Speaker 1: open eight four four nine two eight two five eight

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Speaker 1: four four nine hundred buck. My name is Rahim because

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Speaker 1: I'm filling in here in the Freedom Hunts in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm looking out the windows here downtown Washington, DC,

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Speaker 1: and I honestly true to form, I'm going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the weather again. I'm hoping that when I leave

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Speaker 1: here it is lightly cooler, because it was absolutely roasting

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Speaker 1: earlier on in the day. I want to pivot now

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Speaker 1: to another foreign affairs issue. And it's another foreign affairs

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Speaker 1: issue I know is close to a lot of the

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Speaker 1: hearts of this audience at least, but brings me on

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01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 1: to talk about it from time to time. It's Brexit,

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Speaker 1: and you'd probably have thought in your mind, or at

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Speaker 1: least I hope you have over the past couple of hours. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we've got this British guy on here who used to

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Speaker 1: work for Nigel Farage. Why isn't he telling us what's

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Speaker 1: going on with Brexit? Well, the truth of the matter

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01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: is I have lived and worked the last couple of

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Speaker 1: years here in Washington, DC, and I have my theories,

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01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: and I have my sources and so on and so forth.

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Speaker 1: But there are people with their figure on the pulse

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01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: far more than I in terms of what's going on

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01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: on the ground with Brexit and the Brexit Party and

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01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: how close Britain is to leaving the European Union, getting

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Speaker 1: outcasting off the shackles of globalism and the European Union's imperialism.

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Speaker 1: And one of those people, funnily enough, is from the

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Speaker 1: United States. It's but actually is involved in this brand

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Speaker 1: new initiative called World for Brexit. Now. Peggy Grandy is

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Speaker 1: a good friend of mine, but also has been a

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Speaker 1: great personal friend and ally of one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: presidents this country has ever seen. Peggy was the former

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Speaker 1: personal assistant to the great Ronald Reagan, and for that

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Speaker 1: we thank her and welcome her to the show. Peggy,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us here. Thank you

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Speaker 1: Ryan for having me on today. Well, now, Peggy, just

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Speaker 1: before we get started on World for Brexit, I want

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Speaker 1: you to tell us a little bit about what you've

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Speaker 1: been doing the last couple of years, because when we

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Speaker 1: first met a couple of years ago, you had just

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Speaker 1: released a book I believe called The President Will See

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Speaker 1: You Now, Absolutely and thank you for having me on

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Speaker 1: your show back then to talk about that. And so

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Speaker 1: that's been an exciting and wonderful project to see there's

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Speaker 1: still such a fondness, even across both sides of the

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01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,799
Speaker 1: political aisle, for that great man who was an incredible

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Speaker 1: leader and hiring man who in many ways let our

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Speaker 1: nation and change the world. And so a lot of

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Speaker 1: what I have done has been Reagan related, but also

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Speaker 1: I like to think that I'm a freedom fighter for democracy,

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01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: and so wherever I see that under attack, those are

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Speaker 1: usually causes that I'm likely to be found in the

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Speaker 1: middle of. And you have found yourself not just in

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Speaker 1: the middle of, but at the head of the World

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Speaker 1: for Brexit movement founded by friends of the United Kingdom

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Speaker 1: from all around the world. The World for Brexit is

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01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: a global coalition, if I'm not wrong, designed to sustain

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01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: the idea that actually the people decide what they want

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01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: to do, and the people decided in the United Kingdom

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen what they wanted to do. Now what

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01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: we wanted to do because I cast a vote in

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Speaker 1: that very election and we wanted to leave. But Peggy,

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Speaker 1: we still have not left the European Union. Tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit about what you know about that and

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01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 1: about World for Brexit and what you guys are going

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01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 1: to be doing here over the next couple of weeks. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're so decided to announce the launch of World for

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Speaker 1: Brexit just this week, And like you said, it's a

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Speaker 1: global coalition of friends of the UK who want to

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Speaker 1: reinforce the idea that votes do count, democracy matters, and

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Speaker 1: that the UK is entitled to free and independent self governance.

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Speaker 1: And as you know, in twenty sixteen, seventeen point four

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Speaker 1: million people, including yourself, nearly fifty two percent of the

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Speaker 1: UK voted for Brexit to leave the European Union, and

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Speaker 1: three years later that still hasn't happened. And in fact,

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Speaker 1: recent polling, as you may know in the UK, shows

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Speaker 1: that now fifty seven percent of those in the UK

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Speaker 1: want to see Brexit fully implemented, and that hasn't happened yet.

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Speaker 1: And so we want to stand as a group coming

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Speaker 1: alongside Friends of Brexit and supporting their right to self

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01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: determination and governance. And we believe it's best for them

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Speaker 1: and best for the world. Well, I thank you for

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Speaker 1: as a British citizen for doing that. I also want

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Speaker 1: to get into this look when Reagan was around in office,

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Speaker 1: and you'll appreciate my reverence for that man as well.

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Speaker 1: I just recently revived his favorite newspaper, Human Events. He

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01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,799
Speaker 1: had the benefit of having a very strong prime minister

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Speaker 1: working alongside him in the United Kingdom, Margaret Thatcher, and

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Speaker 1: of course you had Pope John Paul the Second as well.

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Speaker 1: Now the problem we have is that we have Pope Francis,

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Speaker 1: and for the last couple of years under President Trump,

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Speaker 1: we've had Theresa May, and we're about to have Boris

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Speaker 1: Johnson in the United Kingdom, who is basically a David

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Speaker 1: Cameron redux, who is basically a Theresa May, but with

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Speaker 1: a bit of a bigger belly and a floppier haircut.

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Speaker 1: And nothing really seems to be changing in that regard.

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Speaker 1: But the polling in the United Kingdom shows that actually

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Speaker 1: the British public may be willing to undertake a very

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Speaker 1: Trumpian revolution of their own electorally, not just referendum ly,

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Speaker 1: in the form of delivering seats for the Brexit Party,

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Speaker 1: the new party led by Nigel Farage in the United Kingdom,

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Speaker 1: and some of the recent polling shows that they may

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Speaker 1: actually go on to win a parliamentary majority in an

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Speaker 1: upcoming general election, which really would change not just the

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Speaker 1: United Kingdom, not just Brexit in, not just the European Union,

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Speaker 1: but I believe the world as well. Peggy, imagine how

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Speaker 1: wonderful it would be to wake up in the morning

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Speaker 1: knowing that Donald Trump is president and Nigel Farages prime Minister.

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Speaker 1: Have you thought about that? I actually haven't, but that's

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Speaker 1: an incredible scenario you just painted. And you know, referencing

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Speaker 1: back to my former boss, Ronald Reagan, he always believed that,

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Speaker 1: especially in the US, we the people tell the government

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Speaker 1: what to do, not the other way around. And I

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Speaker 1: think we see that same influence happening there in the UK.

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Speaker 1: We see the voters saying, we voted for those we

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Speaker 1: want this, We don't care how it gets done, we

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Speaker 1: just want it done. And there's this feeling that democracy

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Speaker 1: should not suffer at the hands of incompetence, and that's

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Speaker 1: what they see right now, and so it would not

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01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 1: be surprising if they throw everybody else out and put

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01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 1: into leadership those who are actually listening to the will

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Speaker 1: of the people. And there's so many parallels, of course,

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01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,600
Speaker 1: we see between what's happening here in the US and

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01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 1: what's happening in the UK. The loser's consent is not

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01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: required for the winner to move forward, and we see

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01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: that playing out time and time again with so many

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01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,839
Speaker 1: entities trying to undermine the Trump presidency. And that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what we're seeing in the UK as well. And the

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Speaker 1: global narrative about Brexit I see is being very negative.

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01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 1: It portrays it solely as they're leaving something. Rather, it

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01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 1: wasn't a vote against something. It was actually a vote

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Speaker 1: for something. And I think that Nigel Farres does a

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Speaker 1: wonderful job of making it a very positive statement of confidence.

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Speaker 1: The vote of Brexit was a statement of strength that

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01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 1: they believed that the UK hey was ready and able

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Speaker 1: to self govern, and so they believed in themselves and

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Speaker 1: in their fellow countrymen, and that's why they voted to leave.

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Speaker 1: And so we should highlight that positive narrative, not all

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Speaker 1: the negativity that is currently surrounding the Brexits. I completely agree,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I agree as somebody who worked him

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Speaker 1: off over the last decade trying to deliver independence for

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Speaker 1: my country, and a lot of Americans and some Republicans

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01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 1: included in fact, say to me off and well, why

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Speaker 1: would you want to leave the European Union. It's such

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Speaker 1: a wonderful union to be a part of. It's kept

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Speaker 1: the peace in Europe. I mean, all of these nonsensical

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01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 1: phrases and arguments that you get from there. And I

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Speaker 1: often say to them, I just turned around and say

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01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,560
Speaker 1: to them, well, you know your country was founded on

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Speaker 1: the original Brexit. You know, in seventeen seventy six, the

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01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: American people decided that they did not want to be

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Speaker 1: part of an imperial power where power is vested almost

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01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 1: solely in a singular person that nobody gets to elect,

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01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: that nobody gets to remove. And of course we've seen

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Speaker 1: now over the course of the last week in the

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01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: European Parliament the very same thing going on. They are

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01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 1: supposed to elect out of a group of people who

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01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: is supposed to be the new European Commission President. And

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01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 1: guess what, Peggy, over the course of the last week,

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01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 1: we found out there were no candidates but one, and

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01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 1: so everybody was asked to just vote on a single candidate.

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01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 1: How do you think that went that single candidate one?

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01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: And this is what we're talking about, isn't it. This

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01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 1: is about the lack of choice. This is the lack

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01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: of people being able to decide for themselves who governs them. Now, Peggy,

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01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 1: tell us what you're doing and what you hope to

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01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:49,679
Speaker 1: achieve with these World for Brexit events. Well, we are

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01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 1: goals are threefold. We're wanting to educate people, and we're

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01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 1: wanting to do media, and we're wanting to do research

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01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: and call people to action to support that. We are

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01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: hosting events next week with Nigel Farage, who will be

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01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 1: attending and speaking at these events. Although he's not an

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01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 1: officially part of our organization, he certainly has been a

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01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: champion for this issue and we'll be a big draw

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01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: and to getting people to support World for Brexit. We've

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01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 1: got events in DC, in New York, upcoming internationally, probably

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01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 1: in Australia and hopefully in the UK as well, and

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01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 1: weren't hope people will go to the website sign up

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01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:29,640
Speaker 1: to receive additional information, sign up to donate and contribute

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01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 1: to be a friend of the UK World for Brexit

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01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 1: dot com. You can also follow World the number four

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01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 1: Brexit on Twitter, and we want people to be informed

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01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 1: of what is happening there and add their voice to

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01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 1: our friends across the Pond in support of democracy there.

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Speaker 1: We would be outraged if this had happened any place

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Speaker 1: house in the world, if all these millions of people

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01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: had voted for something that was not implemented, we would

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01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 1: be crying foul that it was such a breach of democracy.

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Speaker 1: And yet somehow we're turning a blind eye to it.

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Speaker 1: Happened right there with our friends in the UK and

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01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 1: World for Brexit stands to change that. Your friends, your ancestors,

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01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 1: your cousins. We stand side by side with you, and

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01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 1: we are so grateful that you stand side by side

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01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 1: with us. Peggy Grandy, World for Brexit dot Com, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us here on the buck

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Speaker 1: Sex in the show. Thank you ray Well, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Of course I had to. I had to get a

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Speaker 1: Brexit thing in there. It's been too long.