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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by Marketing and

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In the case you didn't notice,

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Speaker 1: I'm not broke. You know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs,

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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do.

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Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to

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Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations. Here

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Speaker 1: we come. Well, thank you for joining me on my show. Up.

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Speaker 1: This is Rashan McDonald, host of Money Making Conversations master Class.

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Speaker 1: I was I've been traveling this week. I was in Austin,

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Speaker 1: Texas this week. I was speaking to a group of

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Speaker 1: business and entertainment class and I'm looking at these students

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Speaker 1: thinking about one hours in college, and I thought about

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Speaker 1: it gave me a chance to reflect that the and

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Speaker 1: when I was eighteen years old. I was a person

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Speaker 1: because somehow convinced people to come to events that I

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Speaker 1: my marketing and branding, to give me money for parties.

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Speaker 1: And back in the day, you know you you ran

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Speaker 1: I was doing all those things. But it all started

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Speaker 1: when I was eighteen years old. It was And I

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Speaker 1: always tell people that your life gives you a lot

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Speaker 1: of different lanes. Lanes are being able to to figure

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Speaker 1: out who you want to be. And as you go

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Speaker 1: through these pathways, if you listen to somebody's version of

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Speaker 1: who they think you are, that may be the wrong

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Speaker 1: direction for you, the wrong lane that eventually may frustrate you.

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Speaker 1: I know that as you go through life, years of

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Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty four or have I pinned out those years,

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Speaker 1: those are years where you are, you feel you can

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Speaker 1: and you know you may you maybe have recently graduated

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Speaker 1: from causes, so you're still trying to find your voice.

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Speaker 1: But as you go through life, thirty you start getting nervous.

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Speaker 1: Thirty five you start getting nervous about it. If you're

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Speaker 1: doing a job. In the forty you start doubting that

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Speaker 1: you've done anything positive in your life. If you feel

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Speaker 1: you have not accomplished or not living the life that

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Speaker 1: you want to live. Remember, you're only living a life

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Speaker 1: that you want to live. If you're living a life

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Speaker 1: that you want to live for somebody else, everything you're

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Speaker 1: doing is to please somebody else you're feeling in your

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Speaker 1: pathway to success. You can only be successful in life

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Speaker 1: if you're living a life that you want to live.

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Speaker 1: I always tell people you come into this world by yourself,

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Speaker 1: you will leave by yourself. So you should live the

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Speaker 1: dream and play the cards that are most beneficial to

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Speaker 1: you and make you happy. That's not a selfish statement,

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Speaker 1: as a statement of reality. Put one percent into what

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Speaker 1: you feel will make you happy. Put one percent and

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Speaker 1: what you feel will enable you to be successful. Put

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent into what you feel is your dream,

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Speaker 1: not somebody else's version of what they think you should be.

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Speaker 1: That's what Money Making Conversation Masterclass is all about. Because

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Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success.

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Speaker 1: For you, it may be the size of your paycheck.

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Speaker 1: Mine is inspiring you to accomplish your goals and live

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Speaker 1: your very best life. It's time to stop reading other

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Speaker 1: people's success stories and start writing your own. People always

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Speaker 1: talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift,

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Speaker 1: leave with your gifts and don't let your friends, family,

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Speaker 1: or co workers stop you from planning or living your dreams.

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Speaker 1: We were discussing always every episode how to overcome the

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Speaker 1: odds in life, because, especially people of color, we're always

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Speaker 1: My guests on the show today represent people who are

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Speaker 1: making a difference in the entertainment business. You can call

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Speaker 1: it Hollywood, you can call it music. The Grammy's last

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Speaker 1: My first guest is Melanie Charles, a refreshing, inventive and

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Speaker 1: gifted multi multipe instrumentalists and jazz singer. Melanie's provisational style, inflection,

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Speaker 1: Please work with the money making conversations. Masterclass, Melanie Charles,

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Speaker 1: How you knowing? Melanie? Hello, listen McDonald, Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for that warm introduction, and it's such an honor

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Speaker 1: What's my name? Okay? But jazz has always been a constant,

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Speaker 1: jazz is such it's the most suous form of musical expression.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's involving improvisation. Nothing is more honest than

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Speaker 1: that is the highest performance of what our mankind can do.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's doing a beautiful jazz record like you're

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Speaker 1: you cheering when I said, Snoop, what's my name? Okay?

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Speaker 1: we go, I want to go through, like some of

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Speaker 1: the songs that you had on this because God bless

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Speaker 1: the child all Africa. The music is the magic pay

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Speaker 1: Black Women, the interlude go Away a Little Boy. You

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Speaker 1: know some of these songs. Why didn't you choose the

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Speaker 1: song Woman of the Ghetto the direction because this is

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Speaker 1: a reimagined by Melanie Charles. You know, these are certain

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Speaker 1: beats and beginning to See the Light reimagined by Melanie Charles,

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Speaker 1: or the Difference reimagined by Melanie Charles. Tell us about

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Speaker 1: your whole approach to this wonderful album. Thank you so much. Well,

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Speaker 1: I love these songs, these songs or songs that I

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Speaker 1: grew up with my mom playing them on the radio.

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Speaker 1: And I was approached by Bird Records to make a

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Speaker 1: remix album, but I told them, Okay, I'll do it,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not going to do it the way everybody

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Speaker 1: else has done it. I'm going to do it my way.

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Speaker 1: And so it's not going to just be a regular remix.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a reimagining. And you know, to me,

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Speaker 1: the reason why we like certain types of music is

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Speaker 1: if there's a sense of nostarab to them. And so

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Speaker 1: all of the songs that you listed either our mother,

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Speaker 1: our grandmother, or Auntie our uncles, many of those songs

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Speaker 1: were playing those songs, and I wanted to sort of

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Speaker 1: put my own spin on them and what I love

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Speaker 1: the most about, you know what I was able to

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Speaker 1: do with Women of the Ghetto and go Away to

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Speaker 1: the Boy and Sara Varns detour head. Was there a

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Speaker 1: moment for I'm almost du wedding with these women, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sort of almost like, how remember when n I

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Speaker 1: all sort of like continuing on in that tradition of

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Speaker 1: the present. And so that's this album was about two

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Speaker 1: of the songs I like on this go Away a

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Speaker 1: Little Bore and God Bless the Child. And first of

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Speaker 1: all those, God Blessed the Child is a very difficult

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Speaker 1: song to sing and play. It is a very power

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Speaker 1: for and then go Away a little more because you know,

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Speaker 1: I can hear the vocals in my head simultaneously with

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Speaker 1: the beat, and it just really um it, it just

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Speaker 1: time stands still for me in a good way because

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Speaker 1: it allows me to you know, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: melanis like what people don't understand about life is that

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Speaker 1: we wake up who who wake up stresses in our life?

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Speaker 1: Stress is in our life. And so music like this

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Speaker 1: allows us to continue to move forward in a very

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Speaker 1: tempoed manner. And that's why I wanted to bring you

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Speaker 1: on the show, and I wanted to give you your flowers,

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Speaker 1: and not because you don't need it, because you're super

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Speaker 1: talented and you got gifts, and you understand the music

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Speaker 1: and you you're a champion and an ambassador for the music.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly, what is the future for you as

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Speaker 1: we move forward with Jazz? I know you got the

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Speaker 1: concert here, and I want to talk about the podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's where I probably run out of time talking about

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Speaker 1: that podcast because you start in twenty sixteen, so you've

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Speaker 1: been a visionaire my podcast and started to twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: so you was a visionaire before me. Okay, thanks safety

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Speaker 1: thinking of the McDonald's and yes, I'm very excited about

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Speaker 1: the Majorshual Again podcast. I have been invested in sort

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Speaker 1: of creating a space for people who are interested and

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Speaker 1: curious about jazz to have real conversations in a natural way.

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Speaker 1: And I was really excited to steep it you because

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Speaker 1: I was snooping around on your website and I saw

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Speaker 1: there was a photo of you and Kevin Hart and

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Speaker 1: my heart dropped because I was just watching Kevin Hard's

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Speaker 1: documentary The One Don't Ask This Up, and I was

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Speaker 1: so inspired and how he spoke about looking mistakes and

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Speaker 1: trying and commitment and working out and fitness and finances,

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Speaker 1: and to see you in a photo with him, it

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Speaker 1: was a sign, Ah, I'm on the right path. I'm

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Speaker 1: doing the homework, and the universe is connecting me with

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Speaker 1: the right people to have the right conversations. So I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited about my future. I'm grateful for my family,

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Speaker 1: from my incredible team. I'm grateful to be meeting people

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Speaker 1: like you, and the sky's the limit for truth. Well,

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Speaker 1: to know the fact that you have a show, two shows,

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Speaker 1: not just one show on the twenty seven at the

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Speaker 1: Blue Note in New York City in the West Visae

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Speaker 1: the Villagerry, which is like you know, great food, great atmosphere,

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Speaker 1: great people. That's a different version of what New York

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Speaker 1: City is. Down there, I to go down there and

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Speaker 1: perform at the Boston Comedy Club, just to go down there.

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Speaker 1: Wood It was down there with Jon Stewart was down

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Speaker 1: there with me. Ray Romano was down there, and then

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Speaker 1: this Leary was down there with me. It was just

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Speaker 1: it was just we was just down there, just just

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to be funny. And that's

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Speaker 1: what life is about, figuring out yourself and your goals

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Speaker 1: and your expectations. And allow me to have a conversation

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Speaker 1: with you and listen to your time, listen to my world,

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Speaker 1: because you know I'm not the jazz expert. And you

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Speaker 1: know I did play musical instruments when I was in

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Speaker 1: junior high I was a first chair of B flat

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Speaker 1: clarinetist and I also free beef tenor and alto saxophone.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you something, I could not mess

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Speaker 1: with that flute, okay. And that's what you do better

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Speaker 1: than anybody I know so much I appreciate it. We're

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Speaker 1: talking soon, and again, good luck on your show in

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Speaker 1: New York City. Before we go, how can we get

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Speaker 1: in touch with you? Uh? And uh give out the

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Speaker 1: social media information ropad versic who are on the Instagram.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Melanie Charles is the Flower.

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Speaker 1: My website is ww dot Charles dot com. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Melanie Charles. But honestly, if

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Speaker 1: from my name Charles comes up, there you go. So

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Speaker 1: that means that the SEO to SEO or just Google,

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Speaker 1: y'all don't really care about black women. Google. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations, Master claud Melany,

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Speaker 1: j'alls we're talking soon, Okay, thank You're awesome. Coming up next,

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Speaker 1: Brialley Evans. Now, like I told you, this is about

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Speaker 1: black girl magic in the entertainment industry. She's straight Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hear her story, hear her joy. It's not

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Speaker 1: over with now. I'm not acting like she's there yet

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Speaker 1: because she's she's always climbing. Every time I see you

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Speaker 1: on TV talking to her. And what I always said, boy, Brialley,

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Speaker 1: the sky's the limit. She's on the phone, don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Aufter the commercial break, I'll be introducing her to the

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Speaker 1: world through Money Making Conversation Masterclass. You are now tuned

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Speaker 1: into the Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald. Hi,

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Speaker 1: I'm Rashan McDonald for Money Making Conversation Masterclass with your

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Speaker 1: daily minute of inspiration. This week, I sat down with director,

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Speaker 1: executive producer, and head writer of the hit series First

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Speaker 1: Killed on Netflix, Felicia Henderson. She explains how being open

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Speaker 1: minded in the writing room can lead to a well

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Speaker 1: balanced project. You know, I'm a big believer that the

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Speaker 1: writer's room should have the experience that you're depicting on

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Speaker 1: the screen. I also wanted to make sure there wasn't

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Speaker 1: us one queer person in the room, right who everybody

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Speaker 1: was looking at going and now we turn to you

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Speaker 1: as a queer expert, right because you know, it's like

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Speaker 1: like all experiences, there's no such thing as a monolithic

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Speaker 1: experience or whatever it is that you are. It was important,

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Speaker 1: you know, for all the experiences that I thought we

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Speaker 1: were going to be depicting, right right. If you want

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Speaker 1: to listen to this full interview with Felicia Henderson, it's

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Speaker 1: available on Moneymaking Conversation dot com. My guests has been

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Speaker 1: we've been missing each other. We scheduled and we have

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Speaker 1: to unschedule. But I got her today on live radio.

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Speaker 1: I guess is Breeley Evans. She's an actress, vocalist, force

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Speaker 1: on voice over talent and philanthropists Weether. Brieley is making

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Speaker 1: you cry in a drama and she is that kind

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Speaker 1: of actress laugh in a comedy. She is that kind

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Speaker 1: of an actress, a challenge you intellectually through her thought

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Speaker 1: provoking podcast interviews. She finds time to keynote speak on

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Speaker 1: being a curvy girl and unapologegetically unique. Currently stars and

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Speaker 1: Cold and Windy. This original series follows the lifelong hustle

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Speaker 1: of young females as they navigate their careers on Chicago's

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Speaker 1: tough soft side. He premiered on we TV and They're

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Speaker 1: All Black Network. Really is only show to discuss her career,

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Speaker 1: charitable work and new show Cold and Windy. Her characters

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Speaker 1: GG please work with the money making Conversations Masterclass Brialley Evans, Ye, Hey, Briley,

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Speaker 1: did it Brially? Did I put it out? Then? I

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Speaker 1: put you out there? You're then I put you out there?

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Speaker 1: You put me out there so cold? I was making

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Speaker 1: you talk about well, you know I first of all,

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Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna mention another show family business, Okay,

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Speaker 1: BT plus that's right, because you know you can see Lute.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Colden Windy. But let's go to

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Speaker 1: the family business. You know that's when you was getting

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Speaker 1: all you know, romantists romantic. Oh you know, curvely romantic.

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Speaker 1: I how gonna let this scene go? How? First, you

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Speaker 1: don't let this go? Let me tell you something. All

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Speaker 1: of my uncle, my daddy, my mom, all of us,

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Speaker 1: y'all should go out a lot. I say, this ain't

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Speaker 1: for y'all to watch, but they love the show. They

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Speaker 1: love the show. Oh you know, it's always beautiful really

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Speaker 1: to um watch talented people. You know, in our relationship

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Speaker 1: goes for years. We're doing each other for years. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you was doing red carpet interviews and and you

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Speaker 1: you contact me for advice or he said, racheand what

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Speaker 1: we're doing here? And then you disappear, give your cribby

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Speaker 1: hoping either you come back. What do you think I

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Speaker 1: should do? Oh? Okay, you're back up? Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: all right? Did you go out there? Next time I

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Speaker 1: see you on Stanley Family Business, I interviewing You're on

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Speaker 1: one show, you know, another show after that. But the

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Speaker 1: beauty of it is dad. You know, we want to

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Speaker 1: talk about full figure Curvey, you know, because that is

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Speaker 1: always That's why I just love about watching your role

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Speaker 1: on Family Business. It was a romantic role. It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't for last You wouldn't have made

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't a school teacher. You wouldn't you weren't on

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Speaker 1: the side, you know, you know, supporting the fine chick.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It wasn't like that. Talk

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Speaker 1: about that character and talk about the importance of being

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Speaker 1: able to have an identifiable character that you felt relatable,

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Speaker 1: that you felt was in embracing who you really are.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say the opportunity to be on Family

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Speaker 1: Business was first off, incredible. That production team tried destined

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Speaker 1: with the first to make me a leading lady in Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: So they brought me back in The Man and Three

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Speaker 1: B In that movie, they brought me back again to

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Speaker 1: round out the ensemble cast for Family Business as the

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Speaker 1: nurse Sonya. Sonya Brown is my character's name, and this

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Speaker 1: character ended up with their oldest son j and then

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Speaker 1: we even as everyone saw on the finale, we ended

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Speaker 1: up getting married. So this opportunity to play a love

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Speaker 1: interest to someone be sexy and in my full self

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Speaker 1: was so important because I feel like I represent more

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Speaker 1: than half of the women who are watching this right

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Speaker 1: number one. And so just to let people know, like

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Speaker 1: we don't always have to be the funny friend and

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Speaker 1: the you know, the chick on the side. We can

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Speaker 1: actually be the main character because in real life we are.

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Speaker 1: So I'm happy to be the face of the body

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Speaker 1: of the curvy girl out here in Hollywood. I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to take on that opportunity in that role. It's been

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Speaker 1: wonderful for me. And can I tell you this, It

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Speaker 1: used to be a challenge right when I first came

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Speaker 1: in this business. I gotta lose weight. Oh, I know.

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Speaker 1: We had those conversations, you know, and it's sad because

639
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard enough to go in for an

640
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: all audition, okay, because you just compared too. Then you're

641
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: going in the audition worrying about if you the right

642
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: physical type. And also also you you know, your your

643
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: agents are the people who represent you will say, well,

644
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Speaker 1: you you know this ain't your type. Well what do

645
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: you mean? You know? Right? Right? And then why can't

646
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Speaker 1: you be that love at you? Why can't people see

647
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: you as being attractive? At your weight size or your

648
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: shape size. And that really had the not only kind

649
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: of like bringing unnecessary stress in your life, but frustration too.

650
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: It did, it really did. And the thing about it is, um,

651
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't losing the weight fast enough. I even I

652
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: don't know if you know this about me, but I

653
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: was the face of Jenny Craig from two thousand and

654
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: thirteen and fourteen and lost forty four pounds with them. Right,

655
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: So I at one point in my life I did

656
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 1: bring the weight down, but I noticed I work more.

657
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: Hear me now, I worked more and work more as

658
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: a curvy girl. But who is healthy? There's a thing

659
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: as just because your sin does not mean you are healthy.

660
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: And I want people to know that you can be

661
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: as thick as you are and have stamina and be

662
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: able to endure, can still do cardio at top rates.

663
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: Like don't don't please, don't believe that if you're curvy

664
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: that you on your way to the grade. That is

665
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: just not true. Right, Yeah, you know it's really interesting,

666
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: like I've been, I haven't had a pretty and interesting

667
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: life from a writing standpoint, you know, I wrote with

668
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: Steve Harvest first sitcom Me and the Boys, and then

669
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: Robert Towns and Parenthood, and I did d'arcineo Hall and

670
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: The Twins, t and Tamara Morrow or Sisters Sister and

671
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox Show. But the show that I always go

672
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: back and talk about is The Parkers, and that's right,

673
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: and that Parker's because reason that was so special for

674
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: me because I come from a family of six sisters,

675
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: my mom was overweight, and so it was about even

676
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: though it's a comedy and sometimes it went over the top,

677
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: but they look good. They talked about how good they were.

678
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: They talked about being sexy, they talked about wearing good clothes,

679
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: and they were not mades, you know, you know they

680
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: were they were strong. But you know, comedy cans allow

681
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: you to go for the joke first. But I always fought.

682
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: Monique knows that I always fought for her character to

683
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: have dignity, not to be silly heart, you know. And

684
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: so that show right there, The Parkers always when people

685
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: always talking about all the shows I worked in sitcom,

686
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: and I'm proud of all my work, but that one

687
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: show that Sarah Finnie Johnson allowed me to consult on

688
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: and help her produce, It's one of the shows that

689
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: I always go back and go. That's one of my

690
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: favorites because of the fact that I know how Hollywood

691
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: has always described black women over the years as being

692
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: the butt of the joke, being mades, being nannies, and

693
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 1: we had an opportunity to take two women who weren't

694
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: that traditional, you know, petite or size sick. You know

695
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. You know

696
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: the the numbers they want to stay in that they

697
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: call fine. You know, And I tell you this, when

698
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: I think of the Parkers, I don't even think about weight,

699
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: right at all. Right, I think about funny. I think

700
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: about real life situations that I was going through as

701
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: a young person that she was going through on the show. Right,

702
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: it was like, this is the same, Like I mean,

703
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't think anything about weight at all, Like literally,

704
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't. And that's important for people to hear when

705
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: they're listening to the show because sometimes, you know, you

706
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: look at you look at your children, you look at yourself,

707
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: and you start questioning what other people think instead of

708
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: questioning how you feel. Do you feel good about yourself?

709
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 1: Because like you said, you know, having a weight doesn't

710
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: necessarily mean high blood pressure, doesn't necessarily mean that you

711
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: technically out of shape. There. They're skinny people out there

712
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: who can't walk up a flight of steps, okay, okay,

713
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: walk up steps and they knees hurt. Okay, skinny people, okay.

714
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: And so so don't don't don't don't equate way to

715
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: as to how our person is doing internally, emotionally and physically,

716
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: because you know, I have to bring your own I

717
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: had to bring That was one of the thing I

718
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about on you, and I'm glad we're

719
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: getting into that because you know we can finally have

720
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: that honest conversation before we go to break. I want

721
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: to ask you this, the way Lizzo has done our career,

722
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: how much has she played a major factor in Hollywood

723
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: or just the entertainment And you said, tell everybody, just

724
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: shut up. I believe she's played a major role. And

725
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: I'll double down by saying I played a major role too,

726
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: because I got to a place where I said, you

727
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to be authentically me. And when

728
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: when we step into our authentic selves, no matter how

729
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: we look, that's when the magic happens. That's why I'm

730
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: always working and not calling you for six months because

731
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: I cannot stop working. I literally graduation show when the

732
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: show was done, and I'm so grateful, But I know

733
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: the superpower is being my most I think itself, that's it. Well,

734
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: all I know is when I'm watching Family Business, you

735
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and watching you handle your love business,

736
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, they isn't the girl? I know? That brilliant

737
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: because because they have these these are these what they

738
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: call what what coaches on you know, making sure you're

739
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: comfortable and you know, and me to tell us what

740
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: that conversation was like, you know, when you were getting

741
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: romantic and everything on Family Business? Bring it down to

742
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: my audience here because they never I've never had a

743
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: guess if they had a role like yours on my show.

744
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: So what's so amazing is Sean Ringo, who plays Junior

745
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: on the show, who I met the other day. Oh

746
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: my god, love Sean, love his wife. Hey, y'all actually

747
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: have a conversation and we say, what are you comfortable with?

748
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: How can I make you feel comfortable in this situation?

749
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: We do askducers to lock the set down. Only who

750
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: needs to be in the room is in the room.

751
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: So we are we definitely make sure we take care

752
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: of each other in that way. Where is it okay

753
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: to touch? Where is it not okay to touch? We

754
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: most definitely craft what you see. It is just not

755
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: a free for all. It's not that at all. It's

756
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: most definitely a dance that we are doing that. It's

757
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: been choreographs. Okay. Oh but but but what did mama

758
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: say though? What did mama said? Mama saying, Lord, have mercy?

759
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: She's the people at the church going And it's at

760
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: the church when I when I ran into him, you know,

761
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: at the church, I just I just laughed at him.

762
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: I just laughed at him. I love that. My uncle

763
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Slocum and who actually puts videos up on his page,

764
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: Lord my knees. Oh, I know she ain't doing it,

765
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: so he makes a big joke of it. But it's

766
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: really funny that um. I mean, I just think it's

767
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: really funny because we end up laughing. You know, they go,

768
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: they yell cut and we're laughing. You know, awesome, we're

769
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: not all in those sexual moments. Well, you know the

770
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: thing about it, we're joking because it's all professionally done,

771
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, And that's what Hollywood is. It is it

772
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: is a fantasy mirror. It's smoking mirrors. And but we're

773
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: just talking about in the extending this conversation because we're

774
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: about to go to break. It's the fact that you

775
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: are in a romantic role. It's about you, it's about

776
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: it's not about a joke. It's a real romantic relationship.

777
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: And that's where Hollywood has come and especially for women

778
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: of color. And I just want to congratulate you on that.

779
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: And and I'm so I'm so happy to see that,

780
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: and you are, you are busy. But when we come back,

781
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: when we talk about you a legend, it means so much.

782
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. And when we come back, when we

783
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: talk about this other show that you're picking up a

784
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: check on Carl Cold and winking More Moneyment Conversation master

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Speaker 1: Class with Brieley Evans. You are now tuned into the

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791
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Speaker 1: explained the fulfillment that comes with inspiring and coaching young entrepreneurs.

792
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: You know, I just say, it's a complete blessing man

793
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Speaker 1: opportunity to help them become entrepreneurs and start businesses in

794
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Speaker 1: property preservation, which is a multi billion dollar industry that

795
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: has been a white male dominated industry for a very

796
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: long time. Most of my students, however, have been African

797
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: American women and it has been phenomenal, phenomenal. I'm very

798
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: thankful to God for that whole avenue being open for me.

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00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: Listen to this full interview with Melody Hope. It's available

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Speaker 1: on Moneymaking Conversations dot com. I'm speaking to actress, vocalists

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Speaker 1: Farce Over Talent and philanthropists Briley Evans. She's a new

802
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: show called co Old and Windy as stars two young

803
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: females whose career paths is set on the South Side

804
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: of Chicago. I lived in the Chicago for five years

805
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: when I was up there doing the Steve Harvey talk show,

806
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: so I know it can get cold up there. When

807
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: did they tape this show? Was it in the wintertime

808
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: or in the summertime? Did they tape this series. Really

809
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: forget about what time of the year was We take

810
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: it in Atlanta. Really, yes, so they did all the

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Speaker 1: b roll So they did all the b roll up

812
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Speaker 1: in this le girl, I had some cold stories for you,

813
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: and I'm already with now they fooled me. That is

814
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: outstanding productor Oh, I can't wait until the producers Kenny director,

815
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm taking because I lived up there five years. And

816
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: we'll tell you something. Winter is is self timber to June. Okay,

817
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: you know it is crazy cold, but this is series

818
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: Cold and Windy. About the two actors, Let's talk about

819
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: your character before we get into them. What excited you

820
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: about the role and playing this particular character because it's

821
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: a drama. First of all, Yes, it is a drama.

822
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: And I play the aunt to the two main characters

823
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: and their names, respectively, Cold and Windy. They are a

824
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: rap group. And I raised those two girls as my

825
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: own because their mothers, you know, were on drugs and

826
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: just weren't raising them right. So I took those girls

827
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: as my own and raise them up. Playing this role,

828
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I smoke about fifty level cigarettes and I

829
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: don't smoke in real life. This is a learning curve

830
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: for me. But she's a rock. You know, it's so

831
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: important to have that rock in your family but also

832
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: in your community. So she's the one that holds down

833
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: the block, right, She's that untie's house you can go

834
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 1: to for refuge. You know. She has a candy store

835
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: in her basement where all the kids come during the

836
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: day to buy their little penny candies and put cheese

837
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: on their doritos. But then at nighttime, that same space

838
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: turns into her lounge when we come and play cards,

839
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: play spades and dominoes and talk mess and drink a

840
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: little brown liquor, right, you know, right? You know. An

841
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: interesting thing about it is that the reason I love

842
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: the series is because there are so many or stereotypes,

843
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: especially when you say South Side of Chicago. Yes, there

844
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: is violence that happens in communities, but sometimes we forget

845
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: there are people who are living normal lives, who are successful,

846
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: who kids do go to college, who do aspire to

847
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: be special and unique. And if we don't have that

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Speaker 1: story told, realistically told, then we just we we kind

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Speaker 1: of like let that community just go to waste. Were

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Speaker 1: like saying, hey, they don't go over there. You know,

851
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: black people are be afraid to go over there because

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Speaker 1: they can get they can the rumors of that community

853
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: can be done like that. I know that because I

854
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: lived in La fifteen years. It was the same thing

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Speaker 1: that happened to Watch. It was the same thing that

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Speaker 1: happened to sout Central. It was the same happen to

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Speaker 1: all those communities. Say don't go over there, don't go

858
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Speaker 1: over to do in Oakland. I'm from Oakland, California. I'm

859
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Speaker 1: a native of Oakland, and we get the same bad rap.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I totally get it. And so and so

861
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Speaker 1: when you when you get a role like this, and

862
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Speaker 1: do you do you ever feel because we don't get

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Speaker 1: into your foundation here in a minute, because you're such

864
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: a voice of reason, the voice of change, and then

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Speaker 1: you're very your talented comedic actress too, and so so

866
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: is it like, hey, we sean, whoever hits my desk,

867
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Speaker 1: that's the role I'm gonna do. All you trying to

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Speaker 1: pursue a particular lane of success for your talents. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'll be very, very very honest with you when in

870
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Speaker 1: my first half of my career, which is why I'm

871
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Speaker 1: probably over sixty projects in since I've been doing this,

872
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: I used to take what came to me because I

873
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: didn't get every role I went out for. So every

874
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: role I went out for was very specialized obviously because

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Speaker 1: I'm a curving girl, which about that was specialized for me.

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Speaker 1: So most things that came across my deskwork were yes

877
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Speaker 1: already because it fit my category. Later in life where

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Speaker 1: I am now, I slowed down all the way. I

879
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: have just started feeling comfortable to say no, I'm gonna

880
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: pass on that supporting role. You I know I do

881
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: the supporting roles. Well, I'm ready to do more leads

882
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: now I'm more so crafting what I want to do.

883
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: So in crafting this thing, it's much different. It really is,

884
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: because I would just tell everybody what she's saying is

885
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: and I had to do it myself. I remember when

886
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to start, you know, I was doing stand up.

887
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: I didn't want to take every gig. I remember I

888
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: had the biggest financial offer I ever had. I turned

889
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: down because I didn't want to perform in a nightclub

890
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: on New Year's Even and everybody they're gonna turn off

891
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: the hip hop music and here's Rahan. I went, wow,

892
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: I'm not time out. But when this is my money.

893
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: That said, Nah, I pass that. That is not the

894
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: world of money. Yeah, and then and that's that's what

895
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: and that's what you're saying. It's not about the money.

896
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: It's about let's just put it away. It's not about

897
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: the money. It is about the money because we need

898
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: money to survive. But we can't lead with the money.

899
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Speaker 1: That's all we're saying. You can't lead. You have to

900
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Speaker 1: one day wake up and say I have a standard

901
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: of what I want to do with my life and

902
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: this is not one of them. A man, that's what

903
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: we're talking about, correct, Brialley, That is exactly what we're saying,

904
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: because I had to say that to myself, like, you know,

905
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: what kind of legacy do you want to leave? And

906
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: there's certain story I mean, everybody's story is worth being told.

907
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but what I'm saying there are

908
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: certain stories that I'd like to tell, so I am

909
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: focusing on those. I've now put my hand in being

910
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: a producer and a director, so now I get to

911
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: write the story. I'm on the other side of the

912
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: camera making sure that stories get out that I personally

913
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: would like to highlight. You know, it's important that you're saying,

914
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: controlling your narrative because now that we see we know

915
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: the unfortunate situation to have with George Floor when he

916
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: was murdered and many of that. Yes, you know there

917
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: was an explosion of diversity and content and networks and

918
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: things like that. How has that played a role in

919
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: your life as a working actress, night working producer and

920
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: director of giving you opportunities because now you've been brought

921
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: in for roles that may have just specifically went to

922
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: a white actor, a white actress. You know what I'm saying, Yes,

923
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: and so I'm grateful for the opportunity. It's unfortunate that

924
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: it rides on the backs of my people in that way.

925
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: But that's why I'm making sure that what I say

926
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: yes to is going to make a difference moving forward.

927
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Speaker 1: It was just like the show that I'm on now,

928
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: Cold and Windy. It's making us remember that there are

929
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: those aunties that maybe not be and not blood to you,

930
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: but unties matter. We need those women who we can

931
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: look up to, get advice from, take the hard lessons from,

932
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: who love us, who tell us you know that ugly

933
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: truth when we need it. So telling those types of

934
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: stories really means a lot to me because I know

935
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 1: I had that, I wouldn't be who I am today

936
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Speaker 1: without those strong women who guided me, you know, in

937
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: my young teenage to twenty some things. You know, so it,

938
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, really makes a difference. And I'm like I said,

939
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that this is the way the industry opens

940
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: up to us, you know, where they see all the

941
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: past things happening. But I'm grateful that I can have

942
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: a voice to stand up for my people in that way.

943
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Brilly Evans, one of the stars of

944
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Speaker 1: the show on a WeTV and the All Black Network

945
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: or Cole and Wendy. But she also is a philanthropist.

946
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: She has a foundation called water Walkers World, where I

947
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: founded by her Brilly, of instance, a nonprofit organization to

948
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: inspire others to overcome their fears and to walk on

949
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: water towards their dreams. Such a powerful statement. Tell me

950
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: why there's need for your foundation and what type of

951
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: work are you doing to inspire people? Okay, this is

952
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: my life's work. I believe that God is allowing me

953
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: to be on this front stage of film and television

954
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: so that this kind of work can get done. A

955
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: project that we're working on right now is cast from

956
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 1: nine to five to Wow. Nine to five to Wow

957
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: allows people to realize I can do my god giving

958
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: gifts and make money from it. I just don't have

959
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: to have a job of regular job somewhere that I

960
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: don't like. I'm not happy, you know, getting up every day.

961
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: We want people to be leaping out of bed with

962
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: their opportunities. So with this work, we are highlighting small

963
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: minority businesses and we're giving them celebrities to endorse their products.

964
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: I've been pairing celebrities with these what we call big businesses,

965
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: but what the world will call small businesses. We pair

966
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: celebrities with them to endorse their products, try their products

967
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: out where they're clothed. And I remember you gave me

968
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: advice years ago, you said, Braley, I look at your

969
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: social media. People love when you wear these outfits. You

970
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: see the clothing. Fine, remember you told me this program

971
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: we have now implemented where people send their items in

972
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: and I literally model wear them out, you know, in

973
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: my daily life. Give them that footage back and they're

974
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: able to use it for their business. We actually gave

975
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: out two grants at the end of twenty twenty two

976
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: to two businesses that did that. They take these, um

977
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, the content that I send them and they

978
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: do wonders with it to further their business. So but

979
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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Everybody. You guys can reach

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00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: me on social media at Brayley Evans, b r E

981
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Speaker 1: y e VA and s across all that spacebook that's TikTok.

982
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm on YouTube, all of them, Brayley Evans. Even my

983
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: website is Braley Evans dot com. Get in touch with

984
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: me if you're looking to expand your business or need

985
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: some advice. I even do one on ones with actors.

986
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Speaker 1: I call it Mastermind Conversations. So connect with the Mastermind

987
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: and what God has for you. So it's just my

988
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: heart to give back. You know, I wish I had

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Speaker 1: a meet. Oh you are, You're friantasted everybody. Applause to

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Speaker 1: Briley Evans and thank you for coming on money Making

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