1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: It's the show that she is the secrets of success 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: experience firsthand by Marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 2: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision make 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: because it's what he likes to do, it's what he 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: likes to share. Now it's time to hear from my man, 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Here we go. 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for joining me on my show. This 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 3: is Rashan McDonald's host of Money Making Conversation master Class. 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: I've been traveling this week. I was in Austin, Texas 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 3: this week. I was speaking to a group of our 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: college students down there about there but it was a 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: business and entertainment class and I'm looking at these students 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: thinking about it when I was in college and I 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: thought about it. It gave me a chance to reflect 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: that the th I am today, it really is the 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: person I was when I was eighteen years old. I 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: was a person who I was a promoter. I was 22 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: a person who somehow convinced people to come to events 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: that I envision as a form of entertainment. I convinced 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: them through my marketing and branding, to give me money 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: for parties. And back in the day, you know, yourent 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: at those apartment clubhouses and hire your little DJ out 27 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: the DJ. I was a guy at the door. I 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: was doing all those things. But it all started when 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: I was eighteen years old. And I always tell people 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: that your life gives you a lot of different lanes, 31 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: the lanes of being able to figure out who you 32 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: want to be. And as you go through these pathways, 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: if you listen to somebody's version of who they think 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: you are, that may be the wrong direction for you, 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: the wrong lane that eventually might frustrate you. I know 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: that as you go through life, the year of eighteen 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: to twenty four, have I pinned out those years? Those 38 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: are years where you are you feel you can do anything. Generally, 39 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: those are the years before you've settled down and may 40 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: may or may have not gotten married, and you know, 41 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: you may excuse you may be have recently graduated from colleges, 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: so you're still trying to find your voice. But as 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: you go through life, thirty you start getting nervous, thirty 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: five you start getting nervous about it, if you're not 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: in a relationship, if you're not married, if you're not 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: doing the job, and forty you start doubting that you've 47 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: done anything positive in your life if you feel you 48 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: have not accomplished or not living the life that you 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: want to live. Remember, you're only living in life that 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: you want to live. If you live in a life that 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: you want to live for somebody else, everything you're doing 52 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: is to please somebody else, you're feeling in your pathway 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: to success. You can only be successful in life if 54 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 3: you're living a life that you want to live. I 55 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 3: always tell people you come into this world by yourself, 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: you will leave by yourself. So you should live the 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: dream and play the cards that are most beneficial to 58 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: you and make you happy. That's not a selfish statement, 59 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: that's a statement of reality. Put one hundred percent into 60 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: what you feel will make you happy. Put one hundred 61 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: percent in what you feel will enable you to be successful. 62 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: Put one hundred percent into what you feel is your dream, 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: not somebody else's version of what they think you should be. 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: That's what money making Conversation master class is all about 65 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: because I recognize that we all have different definitions of success. 66 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: For you, it may be the size of your paycheck. 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 3: Mine is inspiring you to accomplish your goals and live 68 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: your very best life. It's time to stop reading other 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: people's success stories and start writing your own. People always 70 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, 71 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: leave with your gifts and knowing that your friends, family, 72 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: or coworker stop you from planning or living your dreams. 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: We were discussing always every episode how to overcome the 74 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: odds in life because, especially people of color, we'll always 75 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: dealt a different hand because the color of our skin. 76 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: My guests on the show today represent people who are 77 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: making a difference in the entertainment business. 78 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: You can call it Hollywood, you can call it music. 79 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: The Grammy's Last Yesterday this past week when it aired, 80 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: was a tremendous tribute to hip hop. I always called it. 81 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: I felt it was like Grammys showcase black excellence in 82 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: the music industry. My show is featuring black girl magic. 83 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: If you want to call and talk to me today 84 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: are my guests. The number is four zero four eight 85 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: eight zero nine two five five FORUR zero four eight 86 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: eight zero ninety two five five. My first guest is 87 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: Melanie Charles, a refreshing, inventive and gifted MOTI instrumental instrumentalist 88 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: and jazz singer. Melanie's improvisational style, inflection, and spontaneity talents 89 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: displayed in her celebrated album Y'all Don't Really Care About 90 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: Black Women? I Love That title has been held a 91 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: sheer masterpiece, and twenty twenty two Ebony Magazine listed her 92 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: album as one of the top female jazz albums to 93 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: listen to and enjoy. Melanie charles rumbling voices perfectly in 94 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: tune with her music. Her songs touch upon issues such 95 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: as socio economic disparity, the pay gap, and Mother Africa, 96 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: all set to deep pumping bass beat. 97 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: Please, we're here to hear. 98 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: We're on the show to hear a story and told 99 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: by her and asked by me. Please, Welcome to Money 100 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: Making Conversations, Masterclass, Melanie Charles, How. 101 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: Are you doing? Melanie? 102 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: Hello, mister McDonald, Thank you so much for that warm introduction, 103 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 4: and it's such an honor to be speaking with you today. 104 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: Well, first of. 105 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 3: All, there is a dual honor because the fact that 106 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: let's start with the title. 107 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: You know, I grew up with six sisters. 108 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: Okay, so when I when I hear a title like that, 109 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: you know, they always just TV. 110 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: Ain't don't care about me. You care about me. You're 111 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: the middle jib, you know, my favorite and all that. 112 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: Good stuff, you know, cause I have four older sisters 113 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: and I was the middle writing nine kids. I was 114 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: right in the middle. And so why what inspired the 115 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: title y'all don't really care about black women? 116 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 4: Well's McDonald's. I think any black woman who's listening can 117 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 4: agree that the role of a black woman in our families, 118 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 4: in our society is to be the backbone. It's to 119 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: always be okay, it's to provide, is to help others. 120 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: You know how many single family households are there. There 121 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: are quite There are some that are father single fathers, 122 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: But for the most part is single mothers really trying 123 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: to sustain their lives with their children. And when we 124 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: look at the way things progress, black women have not 125 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: been supported as much. Black women are always like, oh, 126 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 4: you're strong, you can handle it. This is what people 127 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: say about black women. But we are more nuanced than that. 128 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: We are human beings. We are weak. Sometimes sometimes we 129 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: don't have the answer. And I just wanted to make 130 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 4: a piece that sort of was my life love letter 131 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: to all black women, saying, sis, I see you, and 132 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: it's okay to say I need help, It's okay to 133 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: say I'm not okay. And I just wanted to sort 134 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: of open up that conversation to the lens of the 135 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 4: jazz voice. 136 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: When you know, when you the jazz music, and and 137 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: it's always an educational period for me because I grew 138 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: up you know, hip, you know, R and B. I'm 139 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: a seventies child, you know, born in the fifties, late fifties, 140 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: grew up in the sixties, so you know, P funk 141 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: laying that. I was right there listening, all right, that's 142 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: all right, slid right through disco, okay, kay, you know 143 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: back moon walk with Michael Jackson, Okay, all that good stuff, 144 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: you know, and. 145 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: And and and then and then my boy Snoop Dogg 146 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: woke me up. Okay, what's my name? What's my name? Okay? 147 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: But jazz has always been a constant, but it's never 148 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: I feel, became a mainstream sound. When I say that, 149 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: I'm talking about it at the top of the billboards, 150 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: at the top of their you know, selling out fifteen 151 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: thousand see the Rainers on a regular basis, because we 152 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: do help breakout artists that do accomplish that task. Tell 153 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: us about this, tell us about your love for and 154 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: you don't have to be in a hurry to tell 155 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: us about it, because I want to really get into 156 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: this because jazz. You're talking on the number one jazz 157 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: station in Atlanta, WCLK, number three jazz station in the 158 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: country of WCLK, So this is a fortunet format. 159 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: I like to feel that you can. 160 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: Feel safer and talk about jazz on and because it's 161 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: an education that people who are listening, because a lot 162 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: of people just listening to my show, and because I 163 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: don't play the music and tune in to hear Sean 164 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: McDonald and the stories have to tell and the guests 165 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 3: that he bring on the show. But when I get 166 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: guests like you that align itself with the station's music, 167 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: for man, I feel this time we really talk. 168 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: So tell us about how did you get into jazz. 169 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 4: Well, you know, my mother is a Haitian immigrant. She 170 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: moved to America in her early thirdays. I want to say, ah, 171 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: it's got the age long, But I am first generation. 172 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: And my mom said that when she grew up listening 173 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 4: to the radio, she was listening to Black American music, 174 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 4: to jazz music, she was listening to Frank Sinatra, like 175 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 4: that was what was her choice of listening all the 176 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 4: way in Haiti, and when she came to this country, 177 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 4: she said that it was her dream for her daughter, 178 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: her first born, to be a musician. And so I 179 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: guess she sort of set me up by playing the 180 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 4: best of the best jazz musicians and R and B musicians, 181 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: and I just naturally, naturally fell in love with it. 182 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 4: But I love the conversation that you the point that 183 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 4: she made about how it's not really mainstream. And I 184 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 4: have this sort of concept that I came up with. 185 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: It's called make Jazz Trill Again. And basically it's sort 186 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: of like a call to sort of bring jazz back 187 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 4: to what was popular in a sense, because there was 188 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 4: an era, you know, the Miles Davis time, the era 189 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: of Coltrane, you know, the Nina Simons. There was an 190 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 4: era and even earlier if you want to talk about 191 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 4: like Stride and like house parties and rent parties, where 192 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 4: jazz music was the music that people were dancing too, 193 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 4: and fellowshipping with. But the time it kind of became 194 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 4: very institutionalized. It became a sit down type of music, 195 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: where there was a time where people were really dancing 196 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 4: to it. So I sort of have a vision of 197 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: a world where we go back to that time where 198 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 4: jazz was more accessible, where it was for the young people, 199 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: which time it sort of became this old white thing. 200 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 4: All the audiences are old white people. I like all 201 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: all people. I love all people, and music is for 202 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: everyone now right, But how beautiful would it be for 203 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 4: if it be an audience filled with black and brown faces, 204 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: specifically young people, and even be old Sometimes some artists 205 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: sort of cut off, you know, the older crowd, maybe 206 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: because the music is a little too avant garde or something. 207 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 4: But what I love the conversation of how can we 208 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: bring all audiences together? 209 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 5: And also jazz is such it's the most shoeless form 210 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 5: of musical expression. I believe it's involving improvisation, and nothing's 211 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 5: more honest than speaking your mind musically in the moment, 212 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 5: something that you can't write, that you can't prepare. I 213 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 5: mean to me, that is the highest performance of what 214 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 5: our mankind can do. You know, it's doing a beautiful 215 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 5: jazz record, like you're witnessing. 216 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 4: Something that is amazing. And so I'm really committed to 217 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 4: furthering the conversation of jazz and expanding it past just 218 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: a niche type of thing. I really believe that it 219 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 4: can be popular. 220 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: From this great, great conversational piece that you just gave us. 221 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: I'm originally from Houston, Texas, born and raised, and so 222 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 3: I started out my stand up career of comedy in there. 223 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 3: So you know Kirk Whalon, that's my boy out of Houston. 224 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: You know Ronnie Laws, you know out of Houston. I 225 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: remember I was opening for Ramsey Lewis. You know, I 226 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: thought Ramsey Lewis was going to take me all over 227 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 3: the world. He said, you're the funniest due. 228 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: A story in my life. And so I said, oh, 229 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: I said, look like that. 230 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 6: You gonna take me? 231 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 5: You do? 232 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: And so so I've always been connected to the sound. 233 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: I've always been been there. But when you say Miles Davis, 234 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: don't Melanie Charles, you know that's cool. You know what 235 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: I'm saying that. You know, all I just see is darkness. 236 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: I see cigarettes, smoke, I see him in the corner. 237 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: I just see a little spotlight on him. That's that's 238 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 3: when jazz is like, you know, you just sit back 239 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: and just rock and just go. You know that that 240 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 3: that that that beat, that beat, that beat, that beat, 241 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: and that's what That's what I think that you're saying 242 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: that it's a music that it somehow seems to be 243 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 3: tied to you know, nice denim music and by the fireplace, 244 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: and people have missed the rebelliousness of jazz, the coolness 245 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: of jazz, the iconic beats of jazz. 246 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: That's what you're talking. 247 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: About, correct, That is exactly what I'm talking about. And 248 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 4: I have goosebumps because it is so refreshing to have 249 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 4: this conversation with you and for you to just really 250 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 4: hit the nail on the head that this music is 251 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 4: so much bigger and more exciting and absolutely rebellious than 252 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: the dinner music that has sort of become these days. 253 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: And it absolutely is cool. And I love that you 254 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: you mentioned because I went to school with Ken, with 255 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 4: Kenneth Willem actually, so I am a witness of like 256 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 4: the beautiful music and musicians that are that come out 257 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 4: of Houston. Oh. 258 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely, thank you. 259 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 3: You know, you know, you know the thing about it 260 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 3: is that when I look at music and I look 261 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: at the you know, because music is so impactful, especially 262 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: you know, all I've ever been is just a black person. 263 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 3: So I can't say how impactful it is in the 264 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: Italian community and Hispanic community. I just know that music 265 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: for me and in my family, you know, you know, 266 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: I knew how to I could pick the songs with 267 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: my mom when I was like five years old. 268 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: She didn't. 269 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: She can't understand how I knew the correct forty five 270 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: to put on the player. 271 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: I just knew. 272 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: She said, put on James Brown. I went over there 273 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: and put on James Brown, put on whoever was poppular, 274 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: put on Aretha Franklin. I went over to the forty 275 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: five play and put on Aretha Franklin because music was 276 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: just so its even before because we have different eras. 277 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: But that jazz era seemed to get it, seemed to 278 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: get it. I thought that jazz led the civil rights movement. 279 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: This is my thought. It led the civil rights movement. 280 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: And then somehow, you know, the James Brown said loud, 281 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: I'm black, and the crown that kind of like moved 282 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: to the forefront and his tone took what I thought 283 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: was the positive militancy of jazz over and jazz was 284 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: just left there steal a great beach. 285 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? 286 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: Well, you know, we're in an interesting time right now, 287 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: and this might be a conversation for probably another segment 288 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: of yours, because I don't know if you're aware, but 289 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: right now there's a rumbling. There's a conversation happening in 290 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: the jazz community where we are, where musicians are interested 291 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 4: in changing the name of jazz to BAM, which is 292 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: short for Black American music. And I'm a deliverer in 293 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 4: preserving the term jazz. Like I said, my family is 294 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 4: from Haiti, and in Haiti when they reference to music, 295 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 4: they used to term. 296 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: Jazz, melon medland. 297 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: I'm running over holder thought because I don't want to 298 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: lose any of that hold the BAM thought. We'll be 299 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: right right back with boy. Money Making Conversations with Masteric 300 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: Lives of Melany Jars. This is awesome is that you 301 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: be in patient. 302 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 7: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute 303 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 7: of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald. 304 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Rashaan McDonald from Money Making Conversation Masterclass, which 305 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: you are daily Minute of Inspiration. Recently, I spoke with 306 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: wealth and investment strategist founder of the stock since Leto Society, 307 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: Cassandra Commings. She explains the importance of understanding and stepping 308 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: into who you are. 309 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 8: I've always sort of played my beauty down a little bit, 310 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 8: and I would say in recent years, I told myself, 311 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 8: I'm not playing small. 312 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 4: This is who I am. 313 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 8: I have the brains that comes with a pretty face, 314 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 8: and coming from Oakland, you know, we don't do a 315 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 8: lot of beautification here, I would say, you know, we 316 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 8: grew up and we had a different way of maneuvering 317 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 8: here that didn't really require you to flex your beauty. 318 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 8: You really had to show and prove in different ways. 319 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 8: You know, pretty has privileges that I really needed to 320 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 8: use that to my advantage. 321 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: If you want to listen to this full interview with 322 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: Cassandra Commons is available on Money Making Conversation dot com. 323 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm speaking to Melanie Charles, her CD. 324 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: Her album was raved About in twenty twenty two by 325 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: Avenue magazine. Y'all don't really care about black women. She's 326 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 3: on the show and we had a nice conversation, you know, 327 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 3: about jazz and what jazz is today and where jazz 328 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 3: was in the back in the day and how music 329 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 3: genres are starting to we're trying to find the footprint 330 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: of where jazz is today. Now, you were saying before 331 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 3: we went to break that some people were considering rumblings 332 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: about changing the name jazz music to something else. 333 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: Continue that conversation. 334 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: So the term is band, which is short for Black 335 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: American music. And the argument is that the term jazz 336 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: is just too limiting and it sort of represents almost 337 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 4: like the struggling jazz musician, and a lot of musicians 338 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 4: are choosing to sort of are away from that term. 339 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 4: And you know, it's quite controversial, and I'm still a 340 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 4: diehard jazz, you know, supporter, and I want to stick 341 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 4: with that name. I'm into sort of reconsidering the way 342 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 4: we interact with it in terms of instead of change 343 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 4: the name completely. But what I do agree about the 344 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 4: band concept is that it draws light on this is 345 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 4: all black American music. When you talk about James Brown, 346 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 4: even though you say that it kind of took the 347 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 4: spotlight off of jazz and propelled it to something else, 348 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: but that's something else is directly connected to jazz musics, 349 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 4: and that's the fact, you know, James Brown had all 350 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 4: of the best jazz musicians in his band, the best 351 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: horn players, the best improvisers, you know what I mean. 352 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 4: And that's also another piece of why I'm so committed 353 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: to my Mike Jazz Truligan mission, because not only is 354 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 4: it to not only connect generations, but to also connect 355 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 4: the genres, because the reality is that without jazz, there 356 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 4: would not be hip hop, which was so beautifully celebrated 357 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 4: on the grand Piece the other day. I know everyone's 358 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 4: really excited about it. Don't judge me, mister McDonald. I 359 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 4: did not watch it, but I did. 360 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 3: You cheer when I said, Snoop it's my name, Okay. 361 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 4: You know, so like Snoop I mean to me, Snoop 362 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 4: is so jazzy to me. His delivery to me has 363 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 4: a beautiful swing to it. And so all of this 364 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: has it which all jazz, hip hop, R and B 365 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: so funk. They're just the cousins and the children and 366 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: the grandchildren of jazz, you know. So that's the beautiful thing. 367 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 4: Nina Simone said, Jazz is a reflection of the time. 368 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 4: So you know, the jazz of today isn't necessarily the 369 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 4: jazz that Miles Davis or that Herbie or Herbie Herbie 370 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 4: is still with us, and he's he's definitely has always 371 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: progressed at the time. But you know, let's say it's Saravon. 372 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: Let's say you know, the way in which the music sounded, 373 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 4: the way in which we ent acted with the music 374 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 4: has shifted now, which is really exciting. Part of what 375 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 4: jazz is supposed to do is via a representation of 376 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 4: the technology. Herbie Hancock was such a huge pioneer because 377 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: he was one of the first people to incorporate the 378 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: rules and the electric to Korea. All of these people 379 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: like the music evolved as the technology involved. And so 380 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: there's different types of spaces in jazz right now. There's 381 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 4: people who are really committed to sustaining the tradition of 382 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 4: the classic jazz vocalists, and I have to shout out 383 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: to Mary Joy, who won a Grammy for Best Jazz 384 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: Vocalists and Besting Artists this year, and she's a really 385 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: exciting example of what it looks like for that tradition 386 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 4: to be maintained. And then there are people like myself 387 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 4: who are really interested in bringing in the technology, sort 388 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 4: of following the more Herbie Hancock approach. So I incorporate 389 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 4: samples and looping and my fluid and delays. So you know, 390 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 4: as you cindly can see how excited I am about 391 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 4: this stuff. I could take over your show and talk 392 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 4: all day about that if you want. 393 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you. 394 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna stop you right there, because you ain't gonna 395 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: take over my show. Now, you are not gonna take 396 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: over my show. What you will do would be a 397 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: guest on my show. Miss Melanie. Y'all now, I respect y'all, 398 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: appreciate you because because come tease them, you don't mess 399 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: around with you. You doing a show at the Blue 400 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 3: Note right in New York, right, I am, okay, okay, 401 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: it's on the twenty seventh. You know, the twenty seventh 402 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: of February. You know what happens on that day. That's 403 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: my birthday. So don't you mess with me, don't you. 404 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: I come up to New York and howl at you, 405 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: how at your girl? And if anybody doesn't know, I 406 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 3: remember I moved up to New York in nineteen eighty 407 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 3: eight to pursue my stand up comedy career. 408 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: Comedy career, and the Blue Note. 409 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: I actually walked by it all the time, and I 410 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: one day I went in there and it just felt. Man, 411 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: it just felt when you walk into a legendary facility 412 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: and it's not would say the word ghosts, but you 413 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 3: know there's a certain reverence that this place holes that 414 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: just as a customer, just as a tourist, because that's 415 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: all I was. I wasn't going to go on stage, 416 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: it wasn't playing music at the time the place was 417 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: had was opening, it was night, so I got to 418 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 3: see that look, in that style. 419 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: And that flavor. 420 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 3: But talk about performing at a legendary place like the 421 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: Blue Note, the. 422 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: Blue Note is definitely one of the most important venues 423 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 4: in the world, and it truly is an honor, especially 424 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 4: being born and raised in Brooklyn, New York. You know, 425 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: I would pass, I would go through West Village where 426 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 4: the Blue Note is located quite often. I would see 427 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 4: concerts there. I remember one of two of my favorite 428 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 4: concerts was you probably know two of these people. One 429 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: is Dede Bridgewater. 430 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I. 431 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 4: Saw her perform there. And I also saw Rachelle Farrell. 432 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: Yes yes, yes, yes, I called cool lady, Cool ladies. 433 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: You don't move much on stage. Now she gonna do. 434 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 4: Her thing, though she don't do her boys. Her boys 435 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 4: does all the movies. 436 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: There you go, There you go. 437 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 9: And then I recently, actually I saw Macy Gray there recently, 438 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 9: and I love her, and so she'd be able to 439 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 9: hit the stage and following the footsteps of these incredible, 440 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 9: powerful women is such an honor. And I have an 441 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 9: amazing set together prepared. I'm going to give some of 442 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 9: my Haitian folk music. I'm gonna do a little bit 443 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 9: of standards, and I'm gonna do some more of my tradition, 444 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 9: my more trill music, more my more current fresh sounds. 445 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 9: So maybe we gotta get you what tickets to New 446 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 9: York to celebrate, can I can I just. 447 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: Tell you that you don't have to get me one. 448 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that The only only the 449 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 3: thing is is that I am in my mind when 450 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 3: I saw that day that went wow, Man, She's performing 451 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: on my birthday. That is so cool. So I know 452 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: that it's in my brain right now. So if you 453 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 3: see a strange guy in the back ball ahead, I'm 454 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: have a little cool black cap head on, like a 455 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: look like Elliott Nest type hatles so probably work. 456 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: So you go, that must be ra Sean McDonald. He 457 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: said he's gonna come in and shed it. 458 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 3: But before we go, I want to go through like 459 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: some of the songs that you had on this because 460 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: God bless the. 461 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: Child all Africa. 462 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 3: The music is the Magic pay Black Women, the interlude 463 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: go Away Little Boy. 464 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: You know some of these songs. 465 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: Why did you choose the song Woman of the Ghetto 466 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 3: the direction because this is a reimagined by Melanie Charles. 467 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: You know, these are certain. 468 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 3: Beats beginning to see the Light reimagined by Melanie Charles. 469 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: What a difference. 470 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: Reimagined by Melanie Charles. Tell us about your whole approach 471 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 3: to this wonderful album. 472 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Well, I love these songs. These 473 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 4: songs are songs that I grew up with my mom 474 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 4: playing them on the radio. And I was approached by 475 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 4: Verse Records to make a remix album, but I told them, Okay, 476 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 4: I'll do it, but I'm not gonna do it the 477 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: way everybody else has done it. I'm going to do 478 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 4: it my and so it's not going to just be 479 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: a regular remix. It's going to be a reimagining. And 480 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 4: you know, to me, the reason why we like certain 481 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 4: types of music is if there's the sense of nostarbook 482 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 4: to them. And so all of those songs that you 483 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 4: listed either our mother, our grandmother, or auntie or uncles, 484 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 4: few of those songs were playing those songs, and I 485 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 4: wanted to sort of put my own spin on them. 486 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: And what I love the most about, you know, what 487 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 4: I was able to do with Women of the Ghetto 488 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 4: and go Away Little Boy and Sarah Arns detour Head 489 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 4: was there are among with prand almost duettings with these women, 490 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: and I'm sort of almost like how I remember when 491 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 4: I can call a native potogetterble, you know, sort of 492 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 4: like continuing on in that tradition of hearing the sounds 493 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 4: from the past and bringing them to the presence. And 494 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 4: so that's what this album was about. 495 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 3: Two of the songs I like on this go Away 496 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 3: Little Boy and God Bless the Child. And first of 497 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 3: all those, God Bless You Child is a very difficult 498 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: song to sing, and it is it is a very 499 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: power for and then go Away a little more because 500 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 3: you know, I can hear the vocals in my head 501 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 3: simultaneously with the beat, and it just really it just 502 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 3: time stands still for me in a good way because 503 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: it allows me to you know, you know what I'm saying, 504 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: Melanie is like what people don't understand about life is 505 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: that we wake up soon you wake up. 506 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: Stress is in our life. 507 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: Stress is in our life, and so music like this 508 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 3: allows us to continue to move forward in a very 509 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: tempoed manner. And that's why I wanted to bring you 510 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: on the show, and I wanted to give you your flowers, 511 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: and not because you don't need it, because you're super 512 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: talented and you got gifts and you understand the music 513 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: and you are and you're a champion and an ambassador 514 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 3: for the music. But more importantly, what is the future 515 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 3: for you as we move forward with Jazz? I know 516 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: you got the concert here, and I want to talk 517 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: about the podcast. That's what I probably run out of 518 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: time talking about that podcast because you start in twenty sixteen, 519 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: so you've been a visionaire. My podcast just started to 520 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. So use a visionaire before me. 521 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 4: Okay, Red spaces for me thinking of the mcdalads, and yes, 522 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 4: I'm very excited about the major Ashua Again podcast. I 523 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 4: have been invested in sort of creating a space for 524 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 4: people who are interested and curious about Jess to have 525 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 4: real conversations in a natural way. And I was really 526 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 4: excited to step with you because I was snooping around 527 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 4: on your website and I saw there was a photo 528 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: of you and Kevin Hart, and my heart dropped because 529 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 4: I was just watching Kevin Hart's documentary The One Don't 530 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 4: f This Up, and I was so inspired and how 531 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 4: he spoke about making mistakes and trying and commitment and 532 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 4: working out and fitness and finances. And to see you 533 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: in a photo with him, it was a sign, Ah, 534 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 4: I'm on the right path. I'm doing the homework, and 535 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 4: the universe is connecting me with the right people to 536 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 4: have the right conversations. Very excited about my future. I'm 537 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 4: grateful for my family, from my incredible team. I'm grateful 538 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 4: to be meeting people like you, and the sky's the 539 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 4: limit for truth. 540 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: Well, to know the. 541 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 3: Fact that you have a show, two shows, not just 542 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 3: one show on the twenty seven at the Blue Note 543 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 3: in New York City, the West Village. That the village area, 544 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 3: which is like you know, great food, great atmosphere, great people. 545 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,239 Speaker 3: That's a different version of what New York City is 546 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 3: down there. I to go down there and perform at 547 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 3: the Boston Comedy Club. I used to go down there 548 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 3: with It was down there with John Stewart was down 549 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: there with me. Ray Romano was down there and then 550 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 3: his lyric was down. 551 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: There with me. 552 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: It was just it was just we were just down there, 553 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: just just trying to figure out how to be funny. 554 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 3: And that's what life is about, figuring out yourself and 555 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: your goals and your expectations. And allow me to have 556 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: a conversation with you and listen to your town, listen 557 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: to my world, because you know I'm not a jazz expert. 558 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 3: And you know I did play musical instruments when I 559 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: was in junior high I was a first chair B 560 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: flat clarinetis and I also tenor and auto saxophone. But 561 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something, I could not mess with 562 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 3: that flute, Okay. And that's what you do better than 563 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 3: anybody I. 564 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 7: Know, so much. 565 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. We'll talk soon, and again, good luck 566 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: on your show in New York City. Before we go, 567 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: how can we get in touch with you? 568 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 4: Uh? 569 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 3: And uh give out the social media information? 570 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 10: Well, for those who. 571 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 4: Are on the Instagram, you can find me on Melanie 572 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 4: Charles is the flower. My website is ww dot Charles 573 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 4: dot com. You can find me on Twitter at Melanie Charles. 574 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 4: But honestly, if you go my name Melonie Charles comes 575 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 4: up there you go. 576 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: See that means that the se O to se O 577 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: or just Google. Y'all don't really care about black women. 578 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: Google. I love it. 579 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Melanie Yeage, 580 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: we'll talk soon. 581 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: Okay, you're awesome. Coming up next, Balley Evans. 582 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: Now, like I told you, this is about black girl 583 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: magic in the entertainment industry. She's straight Hollywood. We're gonna 584 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 3: hear her story, hear her journey. It's not over now. 585 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: I'm not acting like she's there yet because she's always 586 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 3: climbing every time I see you on TV talking to her. 587 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: And what I always say about Brieley, this guy's the limits. 588 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: She's on the phone, don't go anywhere. After the commercial break, 589 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: I'll be introducing her to the world through Money Making 590 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 3: Conversation Masterclass. 591 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 7: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute 592 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 7: of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald. 593 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald. A Money Making Conversation Masterclass with 594 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: your daily minute of inspiration. This week, I sat down 595 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,239 Speaker 3: with director, executive producer, and head writer of the hit 596 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: series First Killed on Netflix, Felicia Henderson. She explains how 597 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: being open minded in the writing room can lead to 598 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 3: a well balanced project. 599 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 6: You know, I'm a big believer that the writer's room 600 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 6: should have the experience that you're depicting on the screen. 601 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 6: I also wanted to make sure there was as one 602 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 6: queer person in the room who everybody was looking at 603 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 6: going and now we turn to you as the queer expert, right, 604 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 6: because you know, it's like all experiences, there's no such 605 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 6: thing as a monolithic experience or whatever it is that 606 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 6: you are. It was important, you know, for all the 607 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 6: experiences that I thought we were going. 608 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: To be depicted right right. 609 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 3: If we were to listen to this full interview with 610 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 3: Felicia Henderson, it's available on Money Making Conversations dot com. 611 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: My guest has been we've been missing each other. We 612 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: scheduled and we have to unschedule. But I got her 613 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: today on live radio. I guess it's Breeley Evids. She's 614 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 3: an actress, vocalist, voice over talent and philanthropist. Weether Bresley 615 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: is making you cry and the drama and she is 616 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 3: that kind of actress laugh in a comedy. She is 617 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 3: that kind of an actress a challenge you intellectually. Through 618 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 3: her thought provoking podcast interviews, she finds time the keynote 619 00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: speak on being a curvy girl and unapologetically unique. Currently 620 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 3: stars and Cold and Wendy. This original series follows the 621 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 3: lifelong hustle of young females as they navigate their careers 622 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: on Chicago's tough south Side. It premiered on WE TV 623 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: and They're All Black Network. Really is on the show 624 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 3: to discuss her career, charitable work, and new show Cold 625 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: and Wendy. Her characters GG Please Work with the money 626 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: making conversations Masterclass, Breeley Evans. 627 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 4: Yay, thank you, Hey Brill? 628 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: Did I put it up? Did I put you out there? 629 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: Did I put you out there? 630 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 10: You put me out there so cold? 631 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: I was, well, you know, first of all, you know, 632 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna mention another show, family Business. Okay, b deep up, 633 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: that's right, because you know you can see we're gonna 634 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 3: talk about Cold and Windy, but let's go to the 635 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: family business. You know, that's when you was getting all 636 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 3: you know, romantic romantic lord, you know, currly romantic? How 637 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: is gonna let this scene go? 638 00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 4: How? 639 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: First you don't let this go? 640 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 10: Let me tell you something. All of my uncle, my daddy, 641 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 10: my MoMA, all of us, y'all got to go. Oh lot. 642 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 10: I said, this ain't for y'all to watch. But they 643 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 10: love the show. They love the show. 644 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: Oh, you know, it's always beautiful breally to watch talented people, 645 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 3: you know, And our relationship goes for years. We've known 646 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 3: each other for years, you know, when you was doing 647 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: red carpet interviews and and you contact me for advice 648 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: or you said, for Sean, what we do here? And 649 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: then you disappear, give it your caribby, hoping you come back. 650 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: We should what do you think I should do? 651 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 7: Oh? 652 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: Okay, you're back, Hume, okay, all right, and then you 653 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: go out there. Next time I see your Samley. 654 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 3: Family Business, I interviewing your on the show, you know, 655 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 3: another show after that. But the beauty of it is that, 656 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 3: you know, we want to talk about full figured Kirby, 657 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 3: you know, because that is always That's why I just 658 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 3: love about watching your role on Family Business. 659 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: It was a romantic role. 660 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: It wasn't wasn't it wasn't for last You wouldn't have 661 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 3: made you weren't school teacher. You wouldn't on the side, 662 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 3: you know, you know, supporting the fine chick. You know 663 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It wasn't like that. Talk about that 664 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 3: character and talk about the importance of being able to 665 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 3: have an identifiable character that you felt relatable, that you 666 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 3: felt was an embracing who you really are. 667 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 10: Can I just say the opportunity to be on Family 668 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 10: Business was first off, incredible. That production team Tried Destined 669 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 10: were the first to make me a leading lady in Hollywood. 670 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 10: So they brought me back in the demand in three B. 671 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 10: In that movie, they brought me back again to round 672 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 10: out the ensemble cast for Family Business as a nurse. 673 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 10: Sonya Sonya Brown is my character's name, and this character 674 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 10: ended up with their oldest son you and then we, 675 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 10: as everyone saw on the finale, we ended up getting married. 676 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 10: So this opportunity to play a love interest to someone 677 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 10: be sexy and in my full self was so important 678 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 10: because I feel like I represent more than half of 679 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 10: the women who are watching this right number one, And 680 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 10: so just to let people know, like we don't always 681 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 10: have to be the funny friend and the you know, 682 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 10: the chick on the side. We can actually be the 683 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 10: main character because in real life we are. So I'm 684 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 10: happy to be the face of the body of the 685 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 10: curry girl out here in Hollywood. I'm happy to take 686 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 10: on that opportunity in that role. It's been wonderful for me. 687 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 10: And can I tell you this, It used to be 688 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 10: a challenge when I first came to this business. I 689 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 10: gotta lose weight. 690 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 3: I know, conversations, you know, And it is sad because 691 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 3: you know, it's hard enough to go in for an edition, okay, 692 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 3: because you're just compared to then you're going in an 693 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 3: audition worrying. 694 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: About if you the right physical type. 695 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 3: And also also you you know, your your agents are 696 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: the people who represent you will say, well, you know 697 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 3: this ain't your type. 698 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 7: Well what do you mean? 699 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 4: You know? 700 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 1: Right? 701 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 4: Right? 702 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: And then why can't you be that love a you? 703 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 3: Why can't people see you as being attractive at your 704 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: weight size or your shape size? And that really had 705 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 3: the not only kind of like bringing unnecessary stress in 706 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 3: your life, but frustration too. 707 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 10: It did, It really did. And the thing about it 708 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 10: is I wasn't losing the weight fast enough. I even 709 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 10: I don't know if you know this about me, But 710 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 10: I was the face of Jenny Craig from twenty thirteen 711 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 10: and fourteen and lost forty four pounds with them, Right, 712 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 10: So I at one point in my life I did 713 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 10: bring the weight down, but I noticed I work more. 714 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 10: Hear me now, I worked more and work more as 715 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 10: a curvy girl. But who is healthy? There's a thing 716 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 10: as just because your sin does not mean you are healthy. 717 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 10: And I want people to know that you can be 718 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 10: as thick as you are and have stamina and be 719 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 10: able to endure, can still do cardio at top rates. 720 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 10: Like don't don't please, don't believe that if you're curvy 721 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 10: that you on your way to the grade. That is 722 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 10: just not true. 723 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you know, you know it's really interesting, like 724 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 3: I've been, i'n't had a pretty interesting life from a 725 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 3: writing standpoint, you know, I wrote with Steve Harvey's first sitcom, 726 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 3: Me and the Boys, and then at Robert Townsend Parenthood, 727 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 3: and I did Darcinel Hall and the Twins, T and 728 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 3: Tamara Mora's sister's sister at Jamie Fox Show. But the 729 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 3: show that I always go back and talk about is. 730 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 1: The Parkers, And that's right, and that Parker's because reasons. 731 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 3: That was so special for me because I come from 732 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 3: a family of six sisters, My mom was overweight, and 733 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 3: so it was about even though it was a comedy 734 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 3: and sometimes it went over the top. 735 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: But they they look good. 736 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 3: They talked about how good they were, They talked about 737 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 3: being sexy, they talked about wearing good clothes, and they 738 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 3: weren't not maids, you know, you know, they were strong. 739 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 3: But you know, comedy cans allow you to go for 740 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 3: the joke first. But I always fought. Monique knows that 741 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 3: I always fought for her character to have dignity, not 742 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 3: to be silly heart, you know. And so that show 743 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 3: right there, the Parkers always when people always talk about 744 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 3: all the shows I worked in sitcom, and I'm proud 745 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 3: of all my work, but that one show that Sarah 746 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 3: Andnie Johnson allowed me to consult on and help her 747 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 3: produce is one of the shows that I always go 748 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 3: back and go That's one of my favorites because of 749 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 3: the fact that I know how Hollywood has always described 750 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 3: black women over the years as being the butt of 751 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 3: the joke, being maids, being nannies, and we had an 752 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 3: opportunity to take two women who weren't that traditional you know, 753 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 3: petite or size seats. 754 00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 755 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying them numbers they want to 756 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 3: stay in that they call fine, you know, And I. 757 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 10: Tell you then, when I think of the Parkers, I 758 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,439 Speaker 10: don't even think about weight at all, right, I think 759 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 10: about funny. I think about real life situations that I 760 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 10: was going through as a young person that she was 761 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 10: going through on the show. It was like, this is 762 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 10: the same, Like I mean, I don't think anything about 763 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 10: weight at all, Like literally, I don't. 764 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 3: And that's important for people to hear when they listening 765 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 3: to the show because sometimes, you know, you look at 766 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 3: you look at your children, you look at yourself, and 767 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 3: you start questioning what other people think instead of questioning 768 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 3: how you feel. Do you feel good about yourself? Because 769 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 3: like you said, you know, having a weight doesn't necessarily 770 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 3: mean high blood pressure, doesn't necessarily mean that you technically 771 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 3: out of shape. They're skinny people out there who can't 772 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 3: walk up a flight of steps. 773 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, you walk up steps and they need hurt. 774 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,959 Speaker 3: Okay, skinny people okay, And so so don't don't don't 775 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 3: don't equate. Wait, a sun eyes to how how a 776 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 3: person is doing internally, emotionally and physically speak. 777 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: So you have to have to bring your own to bring. 778 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 3: That was one of the thing I wanted to talk 779 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 3: about on you, and I'm glad we're getting into that 780 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 3: because you know we can finally have that on this conversation. 781 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 3: Before we go to break, I want to ask you this, 782 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 3: the way Lizzo has done our career, how much has 783 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 3: she played a major factor in Hollywood or just the 784 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 3: entertainment energy you said telling everybody just shut up. 785 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 10: I believe she's played a major role. 786 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 4: And I'll double down by. 787 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 10: Saying I played a major role too, because I got 788 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 10: to a place where I said, you know what, I'm 789 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 10: going to be authentically me, and when we step into 790 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 10: our authentic sales, no matter how we look, that's when 791 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 10: the magic happens. That's why I'm always working and not 792 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 10: calling you for. 793 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 4: Sixty months because. 794 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 10: I cannot stop working. I literally graduated show when the 795 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 10: show is done, and I'm so grateful. But I know 796 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 10: superpower is being my most authentic self. That's it. 797 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 3: Well, all I know is when I'm watching Family Business, 798 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and watching you handle your 799 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 3: love business. 800 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, there isn't the girl I know that ain't brill. 801 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 11: I know. 802 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: Brill because because they. 803 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 3: Have these these are these what they call what what 804 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 3: coaches on you know, making sure you comfortable and you know, 805 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 3: and so tell us what that conversation was like, you know, 806 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 3: when you was getting romantic and everything on family business. 807 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 3: Break it down to my audience here, because they never 808 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 3: I've never had a guess. 809 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: If they had a role like yours on my show. 810 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 10: So do tell you this. What's so amazing is Sean Ringo, 811 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 10: who plays Junior on the show. 812 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 1: Who I met the other day. 813 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 10: Oh my god, love Sean, love his wife. Hey, y'all 814 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 10: actually have a conversation and we say, what are you 815 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 10: comfortable with? How can I make you feel comfortable in 816 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 10: this situation? We do ask a Forducers to lock the 817 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 10: set down. Only who needs to be in the room 818 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 10: is in the room. So we are We definitely make 819 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 10: sure we take care of each other in that way. 820 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 10: Where is it okay to touch? Where is it not 821 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 10: okay to touch? We most definitely craft what you see. 822 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 10: It is just not a free for all. It's not 823 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 10: it's not that at all. It's definitely a dance that 824 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 10: we are doing that has been choreographed. 825 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,919 Speaker 3: Okay, oh but but but what did mama say? 826 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: Though, But what did mama say? 827 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 10: Mama said, Lord, have mercy. She's the people at the 828 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 10: church going. 829 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 1: And it's so funny. 830 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 3: I saw Sean at the church when I when I 831 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 3: ran into him, you know, at the church. I just 832 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 3: I just smiled and laughed at him. I just laughed 833 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 3: at him. 834 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 10: I love that. Well, if my uncle Jonathan Slocum and 835 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,919 Speaker 10: who actually puts videos up on his page, Lord, my niece, oh, 836 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 10: I know she ain't doing it, so he makes a 837 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 10: big joke of it. But it's really funny that. I mean, 838 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 10: I just think it's really funny because we end up laughing. 839 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 10: You know, they go they yo cut and we're laughing. Awesome, 840 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 10: we're not all in those sexual moments. 841 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know the thing about it, we're joking because 842 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 3: it's all professionally done, you know, And that's what Hollywood is. 843 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: It is. It is a fantasy. It's smoking mirrors. 844 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 3: And but we're just talking about and the extending this 845 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 3: conversation because we're about to go to break is the 846 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 3: fact that you are in a romantic role it's about you. 847 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 3: It's about it's not about a joke. It's a real 848 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 3: romantic relationship. And that's where Hollywood has come and especially 849 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 3: for women of color. And I just want to congratulate 850 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 3: you on that. And I'm so I'm so happy to 851 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 3: see that, and you are. You are busy. But when 852 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 3: we come back, when we talk about. 853 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 10: You a legend, it means so much. 854 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. 855 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 3: And when we come back, when we talk about this 856 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 3: other shew that you're picking up a check on Carl 857 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 3: Cold and Wind. More Money Man Conversation master Class with 858 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 3: Breeley Evans. 859 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 7: You are now tuned into the money Making Conversations Minute 860 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 7: of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald's Hi with. 861 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 3: Sean McDonald for Money Making Conversation Masterclass with your. 862 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: Daily Meaning of Inspiration. 863 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 3: Recently, I spoke with starv Owns Love and Marriage Huntsville producer, 864 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 3: beauty entrepreneur, founder of Seventh Avenue Premier Skincare, home builder, author, 865 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 3: motivational speaker Melody Hope. She explained the fulfillment that comes 866 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 3: with inspiring and coaching young entrepreneurs. 867 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 11: You know, I just say it's a complete blessing. Then 868 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 11: opportunity to help them become entrepreneurs and start businesses in 869 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 11: property preservation, which is a multi billion dollar industry that 870 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 11: has been a white, male dominated industry for a very 871 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 11: long time. Most of my students, however, have been African 872 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 11: American women, and it has been phenomenal, phenomenal. I'm very 873 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 11: thankful to God for that whole avenue being open for me. 874 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 3: Listen to this full interview with Melody Hope. It's available 875 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 3: on Moneymaking Conversations dot com. I'm speaking to actress, vocalists 876 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 3: valse Over talent and philanthropist Briley Evans. She's a new 877 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 3: show called co Old and Windy stars two young females 878 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 3: whose career paths is set on the South Side of Chicago. 879 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 3: I lived in Chicago for five years when I was 880 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 3: up there doing the Steve Harvey talk show, so I 881 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 3: know it can get cold up there. When did they 882 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 3: tape this show? Was it in the wintertime or in 883 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 3: the summertime? Did they tape this series? Really? 884 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 10: Forget about what time of the year was We take 885 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 10: it in Atlanta? 886 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 6: Really, yes, So. 887 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 3: They did all the b roll So they did all 888 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 3: the b roll up in this level. Oh girl, I 889 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 3: had I had some cold stories for you. I had 890 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 3: them already, now they fooled me. That is outstanding productor. 891 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 10: Oh, I can't wait to tell the producers Kenny Young, 892 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 10: you hear that, Yes, Director. 893 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 3: I'm gonna telling because I lived at there five years. 894 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 3: And let me tell you something. 895 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 12: Winter is is September to June. Okay, you know it 896 00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 12: is crazy cold. 897 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 3: But this is series Cold and Wendy for two actors. 898 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,479 Speaker 3: Let's talk about your character before we get into them. 899 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 3: What excited you about the role and playing this particular 900 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 3: character because it's a drama. 901 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 10: First of all, Yes, it is a drama. And I 902 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 10: play the aunt to the two main characters, right, and 903 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 10: their names respectively, Cold and Wendy. They are a rap group. 904 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 10: And I raised those two girls as my own because 905 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 10: their mothers, you know, were on drugs and just weren't 906 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 10: raising them right. So I took those girls as my 907 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 10: own and raised them up. Playing this role, I mean, 908 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 10: I smoke about fifty level cigarette and I don't smoke 909 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 10: in real life. This is a learning her for me. 910 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 10: But she's a rock. 911 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 8: You know. 912 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 10: It's so important to have that rock in your family 913 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 10: but also in your community. So she's the one that 914 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 10: holds down the block. Right, she's that Unties house you 915 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 10: can go to for refuse. You know, she has a 916 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 10: candy store in her basement where all the kids come 917 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 10: during the day to buy their little penny candies and 918 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 10: put cheese on their doritos. But then at nighttime, that 919 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 10: same space turns into her lounge where we come and 920 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 10: play cards, play spades and dominoes and top mess and 921 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 10: drink a little brown liquor. 922 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 1: Right, you know, right. 923 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 5: You know. 924 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 3: The interesting thing about it is that the reason I 925 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 3: love the series is because there are so many stereotypes, 926 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 3: especially when you say South Side of Chicago. Yes, there 927 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 3: is violence that happens in the communities, but sometimes we 928 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,919 Speaker 3: forget there are people who are living normal lives, who 929 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 3: are successful, who kids do go to college, who do 930 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 3: aspire to be special and unique. And if we don't 931 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 3: have that story told, realistically told, then we just were 932 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 3: kind of like, let that community. 933 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: Just go to waste. 934 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 3: We're like saying, hey, they don't go over there. You know, 935 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 3: Black people be afraid to go over there because they 936 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 3: can get they can the rumors of that community can 937 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 3: be done like that. I know that because I lived 938 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 3: in La fifteen years. It was the same thing that 939 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 3: happened to wats. It was the same thing that happened 940 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 3: in South Central. It was the same happen to all 941 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 3: those communities. You say, don't go over there, don't go there. 942 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 10: Do in Oakland. I'm from Oakland, California. I'm a native 943 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 10: of Oakland, and we get the same bad rap. So yeah, 944 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 10: I totally get it. 945 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,320 Speaker 3: And so and so when you when you get a 946 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 3: role like this, and do you ever feel because we're 947 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 3: gonna get into your foundation here in a minute, because 948 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 3: you're you're such a voice of reason, the voice of change, 949 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 3: and then you're very your talented comedic actress too, And 950 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,720 Speaker 3: so is it like, hey, rashon, whatever hits my desk, 951 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 3: that's the role I'm gonna do. Are you trying to 952 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 3: pursue a particular lane of success for your talents? 953 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 10: Now, I'll be very, very honest with you. When in 954 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 10: my first half of my career, which is why I'm 955 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 10: probably over sixty projects in since I've been doing this, 956 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 10: I used to take what came to me because I 957 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 10: didn't get every role I went out for. So every 958 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 10: role I went out for was very specialized. Obviously because 959 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 10: I'm a curvy girl. Man were talking about. That was 960 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 10: specialized for me. So most things that came across my 961 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 10: desk were a yes already because it hit my category 962 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 10: later in life where I am now, I slowed down 963 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 10: all the way. I have just started feeling comfortable to 964 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 10: say no, I'm going to pass on that supporting role. 965 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 10: You I know I do the supporting roles. Well, I'm 966 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 10: ready to do more leads now. I'm more so crafting 967 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 10: what I want to do. So in crafting this thing, 968 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 10: it's much different. 969 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,760 Speaker 3: It's much it really is, because I'm just tell everybody 970 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,320 Speaker 3: what she's saying is and I had to do it myself. 971 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 3: I remember when I wanted to start, you know, I 972 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 3: was doing stand up. I didn't want to take every gig. 973 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 3: I remember I had the biggest financial offer I ever had. 974 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 3: I turned down because I didn't want to perform in 975 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 3: a nightclub on New Year's Eve and everybody they gonna 976 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 3: turn off the hip hop music and here's Rashaan. I went, wow, 977 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,959 Speaker 3: I'm not time out, but we're gonna give this my money. 978 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 3: I said, nah, I passed that. That is not the world. 979 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:10,800 Speaker 9: I want money. 980 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what and. 981 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 3: That's what you're saying. It's not about the money. It's 982 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 3: about let's just put it away. It's not about the money. 983 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 3: It is about the money because we need money to survive. 984 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,439 Speaker 3: But we can't lead with the money. That's all we're saying. 985 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: You can't lead. 986 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 3: You have to one day wake up and say I 987 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 3: have a standard of what I want to do with 988 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 3: my life and this is not one of them. Amen, 989 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 3: that's what we're talking about, correct, Breeley. 990 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 10: That is exactly what we're saying, because I had to 991 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 10: say that to myself, like, you know, what kind of 992 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 10: legacy do you want to lead? And there's certain I mean, 993 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 10: everybody's story is worth being told. I'm not saying that, 994 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 10: but what I'm saying there are certain stories that I'd 995 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 10: like to tell, so I am focusing on those. I've 996 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 10: now put my hand in being a producer and a director, 997 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 10: so now I get to write the story. I'm on 998 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,720 Speaker 10: the other side of the camera making sure that stories 999 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 10: get out that I personally would like to highlight. 1000 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 3: You know, it's important that you're saying controlling your narrative 1001 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,240 Speaker 3: because now that we see, you know, the unfortunate situation 1002 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 3: they have with George Floyd when he was murdered in 1003 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 3: many a half. Yes, you know, there was an explosion 1004 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 3: of diversity and content and networks and things like that. 1005 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 3: How has that played a role in your life as 1006 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 3: a working actress, now working producer and director of giving 1007 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 3: you opportunities because now you're being brought in for roles 1008 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,720 Speaker 3: that may have just specifically went to a white actor, 1009 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 3: a white actress. 1010 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying, yes, and so I'm grateful 1011 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 10: for the opportunity. It's unfortunate that it rides on the 1012 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 10: backs of my people in that way, but that's why 1013 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 10: I'm making sure that what I say yes to is 1014 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 10: gonna make a difference moving forward. Just like the show 1015 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 10: that I'm on now, Cold and Windy, It's making us 1016 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 10: remember that there are those aunties that maybe not be 1017 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 10: not blood to you, but Auntie's matter. We need those 1018 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 10: women who we can look up to, get advice from, 1019 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 10: take the hard lessons from, who love us, who tell us, 1020 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 10: you know, that ugly truth when we need it. So 1021 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 10: telling those types of stories really means a lot to me, 1022 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 10: because I know I had that, I wouldn't be who 1023 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 10: I am today without those strong women who guided me, 1024 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 10: you know, in my young teenage to twenty somethings, you know, 1025 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 10: so it, you know, really makes a difference. And I'm 1026 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 10: like I said, it's unfortunate that this is the way 1027 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 10: the industry opens up to us, you know, where they 1028 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 10: see all the bad things happening. But I'm grateful that 1029 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 10: I can have a voice to stand up for my 1030 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 10: people in that way. 1031 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 3: I'm talking to Brillley Evans, one of the stars of 1032 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 3: the show on WE TV and All Black Network Are 1033 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 3: Cold and Wendy, but she also is a philanthropist. She 1034 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 3: has a foundation called water Walkers Worldwide, founded by her 1035 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 3: Briley Evans, is a nonprofit organization to inspire others to 1036 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 3: overcome their fears and to walk on water towards their dreams. 1037 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 3: Such a powerful statement. Tell me why there's need for 1038 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 3: your foundation and what type of work are you doing 1039 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 3: to inspire people? 1040 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 10: Okay, this is my life's work. I believe that God 1041 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 10: is allowing me to be on this front stage of 1042 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 10: film and television so that this kind of work can 1043 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 10: get done. A project that we're working on right now 1044 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 10: is called from nine to five to Wow. Nine to 1045 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 10: five to Wow allows people to realize I can do 1046 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 10: my God given gifts and make money from it. I 1047 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,879 Speaker 10: just don't have to have a job, a regular job 1048 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 10: somewhere that I don't like. I'm not happy, you know, 1049 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 10: getting up every day. We want people to be leaping 1050 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 10: out of bed with their opportunities. So with this work, 1051 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 10: we are highlighting small minority businesses and we're giving them 1052 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,879 Speaker 10: celebrities to endorse their products. Wow, I've been pairing celebrities 1053 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 10: with these what we call big businesses, but what the 1054 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 10: world will call small businesses. We pair celebrities with them 1055 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 10: to endorse their product, try their products, out, wear their clothes. 1056 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 10: And I remember you gave me advice years ago, you said, Brayley, 1057 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 10: I look at your social media. People love when you 1058 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 10: wear these outfits. You see the clothing mine. Remember you 1059 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 10: told me this program we have now implemented where people 1060 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 10: send their items in and I literally model wear them out, 1061 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 10: you know, in my daily life. Give them that footage 1062 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 10: back and they're able to use it for their business. 1063 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 10: We actually gave out two grants at the end of 1064 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 10: twenty twenty two to two businesses that did that. They 1065 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 10: take these, you know, the content that I send them, 1066 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 10: and they do wonders with it to further their business. So, 1067 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 10: but thank you for having me everybody. You guys can 1068 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,799 Speaker 10: reach me on social media at Brayley Evans, b R, E, L, Y, E, 1069 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,800 Speaker 10: V A and s across all that spacebook that's TikTok. 1070 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,360 Speaker 10: I'm on YouTube, all of them, Brayley Evans. Even my 1071 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 10: website is Brayleyevans dot com. Get in touch with me 1072 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,800 Speaker 10: if you're looking to expand your business or need some advice. 1073 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 10: Even do one on ones with actors. I call it 1074 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 10: Mastermind conversations. So also connect with the mastermind and what 1075 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 10: God has for you. So it's just my heart to 1076 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 10: give back. You know, I wish I had a meet 1077 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 10: who you are. 1078 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 1: You're fantastic. Everybody. 1079 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 3: Applause to Braley Evans and thank you for coming on 1080 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 3: Money Making Conversations Fans. 1081 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,839 Speaker 1: I see y'all next Tuesday. Okay, love you too. 1082 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 10: Good Bye everybody. 1083 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:24,400 Speaker 1: Bye BA. 1084 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 3: Braley Evans Money Making Conversation Mass and Class. 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