Speaker 1: I'm Teddy Mellencamp and this is Emily Simpson and you're
Speaker 1: listening to popping Off.
Speaker 2: So what's going on with you?
Speaker 1: Oh? Nothing, nothing new, okay, nothing new to report here.
Speaker 1: Just you know, it just goes from extreme crying to
Speaker 1: then coming on a pod and talking about the secret
Speaker 1: lives of Mormon wives to band of pump rules to
Speaker 1: the Valley. But no, I've missed you. I feel like
Speaker 1: you know, so we can make the actual announcement. Our
Speaker 1: next show we will be recapping, which I'm so excited about.
Speaker 2: Is Southern Charm, which, by the way, I haven't watched
Speaker 2: but I will now.
Speaker 1: But you need to go back and watch some past things. Emily.
Speaker 1: We can't be having you come in Cold Turkey because
Speaker 1: you got some time here to really do something.
Speaker 2: I do have some downtime.
Speaker 1: So okay, even though I saw on your Instagram, are
Speaker 1: you starting a pod with Gina, you don't even call
Speaker 1: or write or let me know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean we would like to do something,
Speaker 2: So we don't have like anything solid. We just are
Speaker 2: talking about it. We would like to do would I
Speaker 2: mean I would like to do something with her because
Speaker 2: I feel like organically we have a good chemistry together,
Speaker 2: so unlike us, well we have good chemistry too.
Speaker 1: Just kidding. Clearly both can still exist and the more
Speaker 1: the better, the you know, we can all we can
Speaker 1: all do with a little shit talking, that's right.
Speaker 2: It really helps it and we excel at it. This
Speaker 2: is like good practice right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well to start off, we have some a big announcement.
Speaker 2: Whitney and husband Connor welcome baby number three. The Secret
Speaker 2: Lives of Mormon Wives star and husband Connor have welcomed
Speaker 2: their third baby, son Billy Jean. Love it?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Love it or leave it?
Speaker 1: I would love it more if it was like Billa Jean,
Speaker 1: leave it.
Speaker 2: But believe it.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess that's love it.
Speaker 1: Love it.
Speaker 2: The couple is also parents to son Liam, who is two,
Speaker 2: and daughter Sedona, who is four. On the Hulu show,
Speaker 2: Whitney tells her family and friends she's pregnant by controversially
Speaker 2: controversially controversially, try.
Speaker 1: It again, try it again, one more time.
Speaker 2: I'll have no I've had no food today in like
Speaker 2: three coffee, So I'm like a controversial, so controversially putting her.
Speaker 2: Here's the pregnancy test inside a cake, which shocked viewers
Speaker 2: at the time. Whitney later confirmed that she and her
Speaker 2: family definitely ate the cake after she revealed the news
Speaker 2: about her pregnancy, though she chlorox the heck out of
Speaker 2: it before putting it inside. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: believe that. I feel like, no, that's a nature how
Speaker 2: active statement.
Speaker 1: And even if you chlorax the heck out of it,
Speaker 1: the pea still goes inside. I mean, I've taken a
Speaker 1: bunch of pregnancy tests. The p goes inside of that
Speaker 1: little thing that sticks out. Yeah, whatever, that little meshy
Speaker 1: thing is clorox at all you want. There's still pea
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 2: Okay, But then if you chlorox the heck out of it,
Speaker 2: then you're clorox in your family. I don't feel like
Speaker 2: you should be eating even you.
Speaker 1: Think about the bleaching your family, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe the pea is better because at least
Speaker 2: it's organic. I would take pea over.
Speaker 1: Chlorox organic pea.
Speaker 2: Well, it is organic. It came right out of the body.
Speaker 1: But hold on, but is it organic if you're not
Speaker 1: one hundred percent eating organic? If you say, have that
Speaker 1: is ambles.
Speaker 2: That is a very attorney like question. I like that.
Speaker 2: Teddy Mellencamp. That was good.
Speaker 1: I like it now what I've brushed up on my staffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good. I don't know. That's debatable.
Speaker 1: Well, during her sit down on Off the Vine with
Speaker 1: Caitlin Bristow, Lovitt shared her hopes for what she could
Speaker 1: do differently in the second season of the show. I'm like,
Speaker 1: hold on, you said you were done with mom talk.
Speaker 2: That's right, she she left the group.
Speaker 1: I thought she left the group only to come back
Speaker 1: to the roller ring party of the one girl she
Speaker 1: never spoke to. I mean she she clearly left the
Speaker 1: group chat. Well, she left the group chat, but we
Speaker 1: know how that works. You can get brought in and back.
Speaker 1: But what I really learned from this last season is
Speaker 1: I just want to let go of what I can't control.
Speaker 1: She added, I can't control what other women are going
Speaker 1: to say or do or whatever, but like I control
Speaker 1: what I can control. And I also don't want to
Speaker 1: take things personally as I did the first season.
Speaker 2: That was a that was a deep statement, that was
Speaker 2: so deep and well thought out.
Speaker 1: Do you think she used the word control?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna like control, but I can like control
Speaker 2: and like I can't control what like I can't control.
Speaker 1: But like, if you are going to control something, Whitney,
Speaker 1: I'm very happy, like for you and your family. But
Speaker 1: where is the ridiculous TikTok from the labor room deliver like, hello,
Speaker 1: you've been slacking. If you could do it from the nick,
Speaker 1: you you could do it during delivery. I mean we
Speaker 1: already saw you deliver a ping pong or a golf
Speaker 1: ball or whatever that was.
Speaker 2: She did deliver it.
Speaker 1: Oh this next one?
Speaker 2: Wait, can we just go back to Whitney for a second.
Speaker 2: Did you see the I don't know what it was,
Speaker 2: maybe an Instagram reel or whatever that she made with
Speaker 2: Whitney from Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: No, so is it her name Whitney?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the two Whitney made it.
Speaker 1: Who's the other Whitney?
Speaker 2: This Whitney leave it and Whitney from Salt Lake City
Speaker 2: made you?
Speaker 1: You'd have to say, how from Real Housewives of Salt
Speaker 1: Lake City? You got I'm not sorry, I don't have
Speaker 1: a big brain, Emily, you need to sorry.
Speaker 2: From Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. So they did something,
Speaker 2: some social media content together about who's the better Whitney
Speaker 2: or something. But you know it's the one where it's
Speaker 2: like I think it's the one where the police started
Speaker 2: like chasing you and you know you they.
Speaker 1: Think you're young.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like something like that. But they were saying like
Speaker 2: funny things about each other. I thought we should do that.
Speaker 1: We should if we ever see each other in person, and.
Speaker 2: Not just yeah the suspect. One suspect is recently in
Speaker 2: the media.
Speaker 1: Well, of course, it's because it's trending, and if you're
Speaker 1: a mom talker, you don't miss an opportunity to get
Speaker 1: on something that is trending. Clearly, maybe they could do
Speaker 1: one about their hilling journeys together. Hilling. Yeah, that's that's Whitney.
Speaker 1: That's a Whitney from Salt from Housewaves of saltw City.
Speaker 2: She's on her healing journey. So when she gets dressed up,
Speaker 2: she wears hills.
Speaker 1: She wears hills, and she also is healing. But the
Speaker 1: husbands did it as well.
Speaker 2: No, I find that cringey, Like I don't I don't
Speaker 2: mind a crossover. I think that makes sense. But the
Speaker 2: husbands they need to have jobs and just be husbands.
Speaker 1: And like it's one thing to make your husband do
Speaker 1: a TikTok with you, per se, I mean you do
Speaker 1: quite a good amount of reels with Shane where he
Speaker 1: has to like jump up and down and he looks
Speaker 1: really thrilled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he hates. He hates every minute of it. That's
Speaker 2: why it's funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is why it's so good. But when they're
Speaker 1: just doing it on their.
Speaker 2: Own, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like if Shane called
Speaker 2: up Terry and Eddie and was like, hey, guys, wow,
Speaker 2: to come over and we'll make TikTok.
Speaker 1: Do some content. These are the trending ones, right and
Speaker 1: like a dance or they do hearts and wear matching sweatsuits.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, then swinging Mormon TikToker. McKenna gibbons claims
Speaker 1: X did more than cheat. I'll sorry, what's more than cheat?
Speaker 2: Mean? I don't know how you do more than cheat?
Speaker 2: You marry someone else? Is that the next up is
Speaker 2: more than she?
Speaker 1: Like murder? I don't confused. McKenna gibbons is ready to
Speaker 1: tell her story about her ex husband, Braiden Rally Mini
Speaker 1: suspect Braiden this is from prece Hilton. By the way,
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I didn't just come up with
Speaker 1: this on my own, Okay, Minnie suspect Braiden is the
Speaker 1: husband that Taylor Frankie Paul hooked up with, causing her
Speaker 1: divorce and ultimately the mom talks swinging scandal.
Speaker 2: Wait, can I ask a question?
Speaker 1: Yes, can somebody post a picture of what this gentleman
Speaker 1: looks like?
Speaker 2: And wait? Is McKenna's not one of the.
Speaker 1: No, she was, Well, I don't know if she is
Speaker 1: this year, but last year she was not on the
Speaker 1: television show, but she was part of the allegedly.
Speaker 2: Gard swinging scandal. Right correct, Okay, but not on the show.
Speaker 2: Was not on the television show.
Speaker 1: But apparently now she's now that there's a second season,
Speaker 1: she's ready to she's working hard.
Speaker 2: She's working hard.
Speaker 1: She's gonna get that job. I wish they held something
Speaker 1: so we could make a reference, like could they all
Speaker 1: the Book of Mormon? I was going to say the
Speaker 1: Book of Mormon? But last Thursday Kenna posted of course,
Speaker 1: a TikTok talking about her experiences with Braiden during their marriage.
Speaker 1: Mckinna claims that her husband was not oh was not
Speaker 1: receiving his paycheck from work for a few months. When
Speaker 1: Braiden was pressed about this situation, he repeatedly lied about it.
Speaker 1: She eventually found out and then Braiden had been lying
Speaker 1: to his work. He made them believe she had died. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is worth made. He made them believe she
Speaker 1: had died and that they needed to get a life
Speaker 1: and policy.
Speaker 2: Hold, this makes no sense. How do you how do
Speaker 2: you retroactively get a life insurance policy on your wife
Speaker 2: if you claim she died? And then you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, can I get a life insurance policy
Speaker 2: on this chick?
Speaker 1: And and can I get a leave of ad since
Speaker 1: I'm breathing? Like what? I cannot understand this? Make it
Speaker 1: make sense? But don't worry. Can you just go to
Speaker 1: your group chat? Oh? I see him? I see him
Speaker 1: right here, guys, Okay, here he is. This is him.
Speaker 1: If this guy wants to marry you, guys or swing
Speaker 1: with you, make sure you have life insurance prior on him.
Speaker 2: On him, yeah, not on yourself. How do you retroactively
Speaker 2: ask for life insurance? I'm very confused about that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't I'm still alive and I
Speaker 1: can't get life insurance, so I really wouldn't it.
Speaker 2: Be death insurance at that point?
Speaker 1: But how did she find this out? And like, wouldn't
Speaker 1: I mean, she's isn't she tiktoking all the time? Is
Speaker 1: she doing that posthumously? Is that the word?
Speaker 2: Yeah? He's like, hey, listen, you need to take a
Speaker 2: little break from making content, just for about two to
Speaker 2: three months. Don't ask questions, don't ask why, just don't
Speaker 2: post anything. Oh if you could never leave the house
Speaker 2: also because to do that?
Speaker 1: Also, how many kids do they have? Like our people
Speaker 1: are like, I'm so sorry to hear about your mother
Speaker 1: and they're like making kiktoks with her friend. They do
Speaker 1: have a kid? What the hell? Okay, So this makes sense,
Speaker 1: but it also shows that if this is allegedly got
Speaker 1: the guy that Taylor was having the swinging, then slash affair,
Speaker 1: slash whatever it is with Taylor's picker might be slightly off.
Speaker 2: Okay, Can I ask what is the reason that he
Speaker 2: wants his wife to be dead? Why? Why is telling
Speaker 2: his company that benefit him.
Speaker 1: Because he's not showing up to work and he wants
Speaker 1: to get money and then he probably wants to sue them,
Speaker 1: and then who knows.
Speaker 2: This is an insane story. I feel like we could
Speaker 2: to see a whole podcast just on this. I can't
Speaker 2: let it go.
Speaker 1: I well, I am actually fear now I'm in a
Speaker 1: fight with Caitlin Bristow. Is that whose podcast she was
Speaker 1: on talking about this? No, where did she tell us?
Speaker 1: Where did she give this information? Oh? Just on TikTok No,
Speaker 1: come to popping off together, these kind of juicy scandals
Speaker 1: come for Park's sake.
Speaker 2: But then we get can we get McKenna on here?
Speaker 1: McKenna, Hey, Hey, we need to know about all your
Speaker 1: husband's excuses and is he still your husband or your divorce?
Speaker 1: But either way we'll be reaching out for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, make it happen.
Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, right now, even while we're on this pod,
Speaker 1: can you just go ahead and slide into McKenna's DMS
Speaker 1: because I know we weren't planning to do another one
Speaker 1: next week, but we I'll make time.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Listen. I don't know what i gotta do. But then
Speaker 1: on Monday, she posted a fall up video to clarify
Speaker 1: a few things and her story. When it comes to
Speaker 1: the paychecks tobackle, Brayden said there was an issue with
Speaker 1: the payroll company then three weeks before where she found
Speaker 1: out the truth about the whole situation. Braden was sent
Speaker 1: condolences flowers. No. When mckinna asked about the bouquet, Rayden said,
Speaker 1: another guy on his team had the same name with
Speaker 1: a wife who was not doing well, and the flowers
Speaker 1: were just sent to the wrong house. Then don't worry,
Speaker 1: it's not done.
Speaker 2: It gets better. It gets better.
Speaker 1: Then McKenna receives a call from his work and answered
Speaker 1: it it was HR. I wish I was that HR
Speaker 1: person right, And they asked for him, she tells us
Speaker 1: in the video, and I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: his wife. How can I help you? And they asked
Speaker 1: for my name, and I stated it and I could
Speaker 1: hear the confusion on the other end, and they're like, ma'am,
Speaker 1: you need to talk to your husband. We're calling to
Speaker 1: start life insurance paperwork for you. Mckinna later called her
Speaker 1: father and detailed the situation to him. Days later, she
Speaker 1: receives a call from her dad to reach out to
Speaker 1: her mom right away. However, mckinna decided to wait until
Speaker 1: her ex husband left their home for work. The weight
Speaker 1: caused her father to go into panic mode. He stormed
Speaker 1: into the house thirty minutes later. This is a lot,
Speaker 1: This is a lot, This is a Lifetime movie. Right then,
Speaker 1: Kenneth's father gave Braiden the chance to come clean about
Speaker 1: the situation, but guess what, he didn't, So he told
Speaker 1: his daughter to pack up her things and get out.
Speaker 1: That's when she discovered that Braiden had told his company
Speaker 1: he had told him she died. The reason he wasn't
Speaker 1: receiving paychecks was because he took a family leave following
Speaker 1: her fake death. And then at this time, Braiden has
Speaker 1: not responded to Kenna's claims. However, his family has. His
Speaker 1: family has. I just wanted to make sure you didn't
Speaker 1: think I was like slurring or stuttering. It's his family, family,
Speaker 1: His mom, Chris rally commented on her first video to
Speaker 1: defend him, it's time to move on. You're not helping anyone,
Speaker 1: but you're hurting son.
Speaker 2: Sad. I can't this mom. I can't with this mom
Speaker 2: did is she not going to take any accountability for
Speaker 2: the fact that her son offed his wife so he
Speaker 2: could collect life insurance.
Speaker 1: While they were still together in the same house have
Speaker 1: a child like Unfortunately for Chris, it sounds like McKenna
Speaker 1: has zero plans to stop. She teased earlier that she
Speaker 1: plans to spill the tea on everything. Even the swinging
Speaker 1: scandal feels like to me, McKenna is about to be
Speaker 1: on Hulu.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I understand the insurance better. So I kept
Speaker 2: reading it as he was trying to get a life
Speaker 2: insurance policy on her. But he has a life insurance policy.
Speaker 2: He's trying to get the payout. Oh, because it's not
Speaker 2: she didn't she didn't word it correctly whenever she made
Speaker 2: this TikTok or whatever whatever they're quoting where she says
Speaker 2: he started the paperwork. To me, that meant he was
Speaker 2: trying to get a policy. But I guess starting the
Speaker 2: paperwork mat he was. He was asking for the payout
Speaker 2: because she's apparently dead.
Speaker 1: Oh so he already had the life insurance Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so he was.
Speaker 2: I wonder how much it was for I took these
Speaker 2: What goes through someone's head that they really are going
Speaker 2: to tell their work that their wife is dead and
Speaker 2: then ask for the life insurance policy when she's alive
Speaker 2: at home and she makes social media content.
Speaker 1: For a living. But also, where did this guy work
Speaker 1: that took them this long to figure it out?
Speaker 2: I have no idea. That's another thing we need to
Speaker 2: find out.
Speaker 1: I'm you know what, at this point, I'm happy to
Speaker 1: have Braiden or McKenna on because we need to clear
Speaker 1: things up. We can get your gavel and we can
Speaker 1: really get to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have it's around here somewhere, oh here, it is,
Speaker 2: oh perfect, Okay, but I have it, can't reach okay,
Speaker 2: Actually is braid Are there criminal charges against Braiden? Because
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 1: Fraud allegedly it's fraud if what her claims are true,
Speaker 1: and me stepping in with my lawyer hat thank you,
Speaker 1: You're welcome whatever I can do not to get you sued, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know, we don't know any additional information. But
Speaker 1: the good thing is is if they are on our
Speaker 1: television next season, I'm sure it'll all be out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is good tv. This is good TV. We
Speaker 2: talked about this a little bit already, but let's get
Speaker 2: a little more detailed. So the Mormon Wives husbands form
Speaker 2: their own mom talk style group. It was a People article,
Speaker 2: Will mom Talks survived the potential rise of dad Talk?
Speaker 2: The husbands and partners of the Secret Lives of Mormon
Speaker 2: Wives came together for a hilarious parody of mom Talk
Speaker 2: on Instagram on October thirty. First, the first TikTok video
Speaker 2: had quote pov It's Daddy's Turn written over the clip
Speaker 2: and showed the members of Dad Talk lip syncing to
Speaker 2: City Girls song What We Doing Hmmm. I don't know
Speaker 2: if It's Daddy's Turn is hilarious.
Speaker 1: I I don't think. I haven't watched it yet. What
Speaker 1: I would guarantee I won't laugh one time.
Speaker 2: I will not. I will not lol.
Speaker 1: According to our producer, it was fun but also like
Speaker 1: it was fun, it's also like she's cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I guess it's it's cozy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, it's comfortable.
Speaker 2: It's comfortable.
Speaker 1: You look adorable. Yeah, she's she's cool to be around.
Speaker 2: That's what people say about you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Everyone Connor laughs about being on Grinder. So you know,
Speaker 1: some people say it was very endearing, but you know
Speaker 1: you'd be the judge, you guys, go ahead and look
Speaker 1: and then we'll follow that up.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, But there was a husband missing. Do you
Speaker 2: want to guess which one didn't make an appearance in
Speaker 2: the dad Talk video? Which one do you think? Zach's Zach? Yeah, Well,
Speaker 2: he's busy being a doctor.
Speaker 1: He's busy. He's busy being a doctor and pretending to
Speaker 1: be Ben Affleck's cousin.
Speaker 2: Right, or he's busy gambling, so he couldn't make it.
Speaker 1: He could only rage text his wife. Then the second
Speaker 1: video featured the partners and husbands re enacting the viral
Speaker 1: suspect trend. The first clip featured Taylor Frankie's partner Dakota running,
Speaker 1: which the fact that he's back to being Taylor Frankie's partner.
Speaker 3: I'm like Taylor no no, Taylor, no no, while the
Speaker 3: cameraman said suspect's new addiction is his baby mama, to
Speaker 3: which Dakota stopped running and told the camera that's true.
Speaker 1: Dakota's appearance in the video with the other husbands also
Speaker 1: seem to confirm that he and Taylor have reconciled after
Speaker 1: breakup rumor surfaced.
Speaker 2: Oh and apparently Jen doesn't have a wedding ring on.
Speaker 1: Right, But then Jen's also still making videos and pictures
Speaker 1: with him, So it's you know what I don't.
Speaker 2: I've gotten to the.
Speaker 1: Point where i't fully trust you Jen and Zach. I
Speaker 1: don't know what your where your mo O is, I
Speaker 1: don't know where you're in med school. I don't know
Speaker 1: the details.
Speaker 2: I think that she's just calculated and she knows how
Speaker 2: to get views and like, so she'll just throw anything
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: Oh you think I.
Speaker 2: Think I'm really coming to that conclusion?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Jen told people that often Jen goes without
Speaker 1: her wedding ring, though adding that she has never really
Speaker 1: worn it consistently and it's not something that bothers her husband.
Speaker 1: It's actually confusing to me that that wouldn't bother her husband,
Speaker 1: but everything else.
Speaker 2: Does you know? I was wondering the same thing, Like
Speaker 2: she's not allowed to step foot anywhere near a guy
Speaker 2: without a shirt on, but not wearing a ring?
Speaker 1: No big deals? Who cares? Ever?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm I'm laid back. But the Affles
Speaker 4: not Ben. Uh, the Zach and Jen not Ben.
Speaker 1: They did confirm their filming for season two, though I
Speaker 1: can't believe Zach's gonna film.
Speaker 2: I felt like he would have been one of those
Speaker 2: that was just I'm out never doing that again.
Speaker 1: To bolster the fact that the reality couple is still
Speaker 1: going strong, that's they That's when they let them know
Speaker 1: they'll be filming their Hulu series at their home, which
Speaker 1: makes me question once again are you in med school
Speaker 1: or are you in med school at Utah in Utah?
Speaker 1: Or are you coming home on breaks?
Speaker 2: I don't wait, didn't didn't they say he was going
Speaker 2: to med school in New York or something?
Speaker 1: Yes? But then it was it was switching to Arizona.
Speaker 1: I thought, I don't I it just goes down to
Speaker 1: I don't trust those afflecks currently aflac a flat Andy Cohen.
Speaker 1: This is from reality Tea article. Andy Cohen wouldn't bring
Speaker 1: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives cast to Real Housewives of
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City. In a recent interview with Cosmopolitan, Woo
Speaker 1: big time. You know when you bring up Cosmopolitan, Andy
Speaker 1: answered fans burning questions about Bravo and Housewives. One question
Speaker 1: read would you invite any of the Secret Lives of
Speaker 1: Mormon Wives onto Salt Lake City Housewives. Andy answered the
Speaker 1: question by first admitting I've never seen the Secret Lives
Speaker 1: of Mormon Wives?
Speaker 2: Andy, Andy, get with the program, man.
Speaker 1: I know you've got a lot of shows to watch
Speaker 1: where you can't miss this one. He continued, I can't
Speaker 1: really speculate on it, but would I invite one of
Speaker 1: those women to be a cast member on the Salt
Speaker 1: Lake City No? They're on their show, We're on our show.
Speaker 1: There are enough Mormons for everybody to go around. Reasonable.
Speaker 2: I have one, you should get one too.
Speaker 1: There's a Mormon for everyone. When the clip made its
Speaker 1: way to TikTok, fans were happy to share their thoughts
Speaker 1: on the answer. And somebody says, Andy seems pretty defensive,
Speaker 1: one commoner wrote. Another said this is giving Mariah Carey.
Speaker 1: I don't know her vibes. Other Commoners hope for crossover
Speaker 1: between the two shows, even if Secret Lives cast members
Speaker 1: didn't fully migrate. My guess is that we will see
Speaker 1: some or all of them at some point on Salt
Speaker 1: Lake at some sort of party, maybe a launch for
Speaker 1: prison not prison, prison prison as well, but Prism, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the jewelry lines, or maybe Maritis.
Speaker 2: Oh, one of those parties. Yeah, I could see them
Speaker 2: in the background.
Speaker 1: I could see a background.
Speaker 2: Okay. But here's the thing. I'm just gonna say this.
Speaker 2: It's it doesn't work when you have two different shows
Speaker 2: and the premises are totally different. When you're talking about housewives,
Speaker 2: you're talking about women who are affluent, and then with
Speaker 2: the Mormon wives, that isn't the requirement, Like clearly these
Speaker 2: are just young girls that are Mormons that are the breadwinners.
Speaker 2: So I mean it's not the same concept.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a very I think. That being said,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the same people that watch
Speaker 1: Housewives enjoyed secret lives of Mormon wives, and I do
Speaker 1: think some of these gals could metamorphose in to just
Speaker 1: lovely housewives because they're going to keep getting richer.
Speaker 2: So that is true.
Speaker 1: Well, now we're into vander Pump headlines.
Speaker 2: Tom Sandoval shares a major update on house battles with
Speaker 2: Ariana Maddox. It's an e article. Tom Sandoval and Arianna
Speaker 2: have finally agreed on one thing, saying goodbye to the
Speaker 2: home they once shared. The house is going on the market.
Speaker 2: Tom Sandoval revealed during the October twenty third episode of
Speaker 2: his Everybody Loves Tom podcast, and when it comes to
Speaker 2: the vander Pump Roles Stars new living situation, he proved
Speaker 2: he and new girlfriend Victoria Lee Robinson are getting serious
Speaker 2: by taking their relationship to the next level. Tom revealed
Speaker 2: Victoria and I are moving in together after Tom and
Speaker 2: Arianna is a messy breakup and very awkward post split
Speaker 2: living situation played out during the Bravo series eleventh season
Speaker 2: earlier this year, Victoria equipped, I'm also never going to
Speaker 2: move into that house if you want a future with me.
Speaker 2: But cohabitation isn't the only major milestone the couple is
Speaker 2: planning for. The forty two year old revealed he and
Speaker 2: Victoria have already talked about having cute ass kids together.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but if you if that's the way you
Speaker 2: pose it, you shouldn't have children.
Speaker 1: I like the way I don't. The thing that makes
Speaker 1: us confusing is by reading this, one would think Tom
Speaker 1: Sandvill is twenty three years old, like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, like, let's have some cute ass kids.
Speaker 1: Let's have some No, Like this is a grown ass man.
Speaker 1: I have some cute ass kids. Yeah, like he may yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean he's forty two. I'm forty three, granted, I
Speaker 1: mean obviously my life's perfect.
Speaker 2: I know you got some cute ass kids.
Speaker 1: I got some cute ass kids. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I really need to see more of
Speaker 1: Victoria Lee Robinson to make a clear judgment or opinion,
Speaker 1: because what I've seen of her on Instagram. And then
Speaker 1: remember when he was like on a television show, maybe
Speaker 1: he was on traders or something. He was somewhere gone,
Speaker 1: and then she was writing posts on his behalf like
Speaker 1: things seem askew. Then we heard they broke up and
Speaker 1: followed each other. Seems like a good time to move
Speaker 1: in together.
Speaker 2: Well, here's my perspective as someone who lived like he
Speaker 2: and Arianna bought a house together and lived together, and
Speaker 2: it was a messy situation, and it's taken all this
Speaker 2: time and attorneys to get out of that. And now
Speaker 2: he wants to go into another such situation where he's
Speaker 2: cohabitating with another woman and he's going to get married,
Speaker 2: and he's not married to and he doesn't have any
Speaker 2: cute ass kids with yet, but he's going to go
Speaker 2: into another cohabitation situation. And I assume he's going to
Speaker 2: buy a home. I mean, why would you You wouldn't rent,
Speaker 2: You wouldn't go from buying to renting. I would assume No.
Speaker 1: I think some you would have to assume that that
Speaker 1: might be the only option. Because vander Pump Rules is
Speaker 1: not filming right now.
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm just saying, show like, why would you
Speaker 2: put yourself right back in a situation where you're going
Speaker 2: to have issues again? Most likely?
Speaker 1: Do we think that a lot of things that we
Speaker 1: see in the world of Bravo celebrities makes sense, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't.
Speaker 2: It makes no sense at all. I feel like I
Speaker 2: should just be a Bravo consultant.
Speaker 1: Oh, because everything you do makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2: I am logical and reasonable at all times and less.
Speaker 1: More than three espresso Martini's man.
Speaker 2: Then I'm just out.
Speaker 1: But no, who does have a big brain? Rachel Levis
Speaker 1: is dating a rocket scientist and leaving Hollywood. How many
Speaker 1: times is this girl going to threaten to leave Hollywood?
Speaker 2: She it's a lot.
Speaker 1: She needs to just go, like you know what, she says. Levis,
Speaker 1: who is known to audience for her former moniker Raquel,
Speaker 1: announced on Thursday, October seventeenth, of the episode of Rachel
Speaker 1: Goes Rogue that she would be walking away from the
Speaker 1: Spotlight and from her podcast. I've made the decision to
Speaker 1: take both feet out of the vander Pump Rules universe
Speaker 1: and focus on myself and my healing, Levis said on
Speaker 1: the show that published Thursday, adding that she was choosing
Speaker 1: a life that is fully aligned in my values and
Speaker 1: who I want to show up as every single day.
Speaker 1: I thought we did this before you got the podcast
Speaker 1: Rachel and.
Speaker 2: I thought that was the purpose of her podcast, was
Speaker 2: that she was like living her best life and telling
Speaker 2: her truth and being her authentic self.
Speaker 1: Well apparently not, because then she just went back to
Speaker 1: talking about vander Pump rules the whole time, and getting
Speaker 1: in fights and writing who were it better? And all
Speaker 1: of that stuff were way above clearly.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's so patty. Who does that?
Speaker 1: Who does that?
Speaker 2: That's low.
Speaker 1: But she said on the podcast, while speaking with psychologist
Speaker 1: doctor Hillary Goldscher, that she's in a very healthy relationship,
Speaker 1: boasting that her bow, whom she is not naming, is
Speaker 1: very normal. A rep for Levis did not respond to
Speaker 1: people's requests for comment about her man, but a source
Speaker 1: close to the Star tells people that he's a rocket engineer.
Speaker 1: They met through mutual friends and just hit it off.
Speaker 1: The insider says he's an incredible guy, really smart and
Speaker 1: kind and down to earth and most importantly disinterested in
Speaker 1: social media. He's not even on social media, which also
Speaker 1: could be a red flag, so his priorities are really
Speaker 1: in the right place.
Speaker 2: Is there really such a thing as a rocket scientist? Well,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a very general term.
Speaker 1: But when I read the headline Rachel Levis is dating
Speaker 1: a rocket scientist. I had to check if this like
Speaker 1: wasn't from the Onion.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know any rocket scientists personally. This is
Speaker 1: a really hard thing to say with the tongue.
Speaker 2: Thrust rocket science. Rachel Levis rocket scientists. It's a literation.
Speaker 2: It just seems like a fake career to me, because like,
Speaker 2: we don't have car scientists. Yeah, I mean, but I
Speaker 2: guess what do you do. I'm a bus scientist. I mean,
Speaker 2: that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess rockets are more advanced. So
Speaker 1: if you can build a rocket, you're a scientist. Are
Speaker 1: rockets what we're in that? What was that movie with
Speaker 1: Liv Tyler and her dad's song played on it all
Speaker 1: the time and they go up? I think they go
Speaker 1: on rockets.
Speaker 2: They go in rockets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what movie I can think of.
Speaker 2: With Liv Tyler's Tower records?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was a good movie.
Speaker 2: It's not a good movie.
Speaker 1: I love that movie.
Speaker 2: Now I want to go watch it. Oh.
Speaker 1: The definition of rocket science is the study of how
Speaker 1: rockets are designed and built, and how they can be
Speaker 1: used for space exploration. It's also a colloquial term for
Speaker 1: aerospace engineering or orbital mechanics. The fact that I could
Speaker 1: barely read the definition of rocket scientist shows that I
Speaker 1: am not one.
Speaker 2: It reminded me of that scene in Romeo Michelle where
Speaker 2: one of them like when she yeah, but she all
Speaker 2: of a sudden knows, like the formula it's all.
Speaker 1: Glue, the viscosity of the mechag.
Speaker 2: That's what you sounded like.
Speaker 1: It's so good. I love a ROMEI and Michelle mentioned
Speaker 1: that was my sister and my favorite movies growing up.
Speaker 1: Would watch it a thousand times. This next one is
Speaker 1: Lala can't call Sheena shea clueless.
Speaker 2: This is from Reality Tea article. As it turns out,
Speaker 2: Sheena she wasn't supposed to publicly discuss Katie Maloney and
Speaker 2: Nick Martin's romance. Lala can't joke that Sheena was the
Speaker 2: one who confirmed Katie's relationship. Lala talked about it on
Speaker 2: her podcast Give Them La La and confirmed that Sheena
Speaker 2: realized after the fact that she wasn't supposed to talk
Speaker 2: about it. She admitted to Laala, I accidentally confirmed it.
Speaker 2: Laala shared Katie and Nick haven't confirmed their relationship because
Speaker 2: what I read is he is going through a messy
Speaker 2: divorce and they have to keep it quiet. I like
Speaker 2: how she's talking about it though, you know.
Speaker 1: What, she's crueless from bringing it up. But now it's
Speaker 1: going to shed light on why they're keeping it a secret.
Speaker 2: Right. Laala confirmed that when relationships are going through complications,
Speaker 2: it can get messy for everyone involved. She compared it
Speaker 2: to dating ex fiance Randall Emmett. He too said he
Speaker 2: wasn't cheating because the marriage was over. As for Sheena,
Speaker 2: Lala said she was just quote clueless for letting the
Speaker 2: secret slip. I love her, but she lives in the
Speaker 2: clouds and doesn't even realize it. La La confirmed, I
Speaker 2: don't know if she was yelled at after she revealed
Speaker 2: the information. It is just very funny.
Speaker 1: Are Lala and Katie Maloney? They're not on speaking terms anymore? Correct?
Speaker 2: I didn't think so.
Speaker 1: So she knows a pretty good amount of information. She
Speaker 1: don't know where she got it from. Yeah, is it
Speaker 1: also Sheena? Yeah, Well we get into our one of
Speaker 1: our favorite people, Jax Taylor, suggests he married Brittany for
Speaker 1: the wrong reasons. Oh of course this reality blurb article here.
Speaker 1: Jax Taylor looked back on his relationship with a strange
Speaker 1: wife Brittany Cartwright on their shared podcast on Friday. So
Speaker 1: they still do podcasts together.
Speaker 2: How awkward is that?
Speaker 1: Or is it they take turns?
Speaker 2: I don't know because I didn't listen to it, but
Speaker 2: I feel like that is just very awkward if they're
Speaker 2: doing it together. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, as he confessed to feeling rushed into their June
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen wedding, recalling that Brittany began planning the event
Speaker 1: immediately after he proposed. Well, I hate to break it
Speaker 1: to you, Jacks. If you propose, that's what happens, and
Speaker 1: then don't propose if you don't want to get married.
Speaker 1: Let me give everybody this is a PSA to the
Speaker 1: men that don't listen to this podcast, because I don't.
Speaker 2: Think that they don't. We don't have a huge viewership
Speaker 2: out there of men.
Speaker 1: Well, considering my Instagram viewership is at three percent of men.
Speaker 1: I would guess not, but who knows. Check your zm oh,
Speaker 1: look at it. But Jack's admitted to wishing he and
Speaker 1: Brittany had gone to couple's therapy before the big day.
Speaker 1: According to Jack's he doesn't know if he was entirely
Speaker 1: ready to get married. When he did, it was a
Speaker 1: tiny bit rushed. We didn't even go on a honeymoon,
Speaker 1: he recalled. I don't think we really embraced our relationship,
Speaker 1: embraced getting married, embraced being fiances. I think it was
Speaker 1: maybe a little rushed. Jax concluded, if we would have
Speaker 1: gotten married in the Catholic Church, we would have had
Speaker 1: to go to counseling. So I don't know, there's little
Speaker 1: things here and there that I wish I would have
Speaker 1: done differently. I'm certainly sure Britney feels the same way.
Speaker 2: Jacks. I just to me, this is just someone who
Speaker 2: is trying to make excuses for bad behavior. Obviously, but
Speaker 2: why do you go back and start to blame it
Speaker 2: on dumb things?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like if you didn't, if you when you proposed
Speaker 1: you said one, didn't just pull a John Jansen and
Speaker 1: do a promised ring first and then go to the
Speaker 1: engagement ring.
Speaker 2: Then exactly right, Jacks, Like, geez, you don't.
Speaker 1: If you give somebody an engagement ring, the logical thing
Speaker 1: is that then you're going to get married.
Speaker 2: Yes, next step is play on the wedding.
Speaker 1: And then if you realized that you got married and
Speaker 1: you didn't want to be, then probably don't rush into
Speaker 1: then having a baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know what, if you're talking about how
Speaker 2: if you would have gotten married in a Catholic church,
Speaker 2: you would have had to go to counseling, just that
Speaker 2: doesn't stop you from going to counseling anyway.
Speaker 1: And that doesn't stop you from when things started to
Speaker 1: take a turn, going to counseling. And am I judging
Speaker 1: anybody who is getting divorced?
Speaker 2: No, but I think why not? Why are you not
Speaker 2: doing that?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think that blaming being rushed
Speaker 1: into marriage when you proposed is a very strange reaction.
Speaker 1: But that's that. That's that I am looking forward to
Speaker 1: when the Valley, I mean the Valley I think is
Speaker 1: even done filming, so we're going to get the alley.
Speaker 1: We haven't got confirmation of vander Pump Rules is coming
Speaker 1: back or not. We saw some kind of headlines like
Speaker 1: Lisa vander Pump no longer involved in being pushed out
Speaker 1: of vander Pump Rules. I don't believe any of it
Speaker 1: until I hear or see a paparazzi pick of them filming.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to believe yep, I agree.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with that. All right.
Speaker 1: Well, let's go with that. Hopefully we'll be talking to
Speaker 1: you guys next week and have McKenna and or Brayden on.
Speaker 1: I don't know if.
Speaker 2: Or the HR department.
Speaker 5: I'm fine with that, or the HR department that's fine,
Speaker 5: or the life insurance company like work actually submitted or
Speaker 5: was there a payout?
Speaker 1: And what did it say on the bouquet of flowers?
Speaker 2: Oh, I want to know that too.
Speaker 1: Anyways, we got a lot of work to do, a
Speaker 1: lot a lot time pack, but it was good talking
Speaker 1: to you, Emilee, and we'll be back hopefully soon. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they'll be more ship that goes down that we.
Speaker 2: Need to Thanks for listening. Mm hmmm hmmmmm.