1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Ron and Nanian, did you play attention in math class? 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Remember when you took in algebra and you were botting 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: those points on the X and y axis. But we're 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna talk about why that's okay. Yeah, that car doctor. Listen, 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna call it what it is. We're gonna overhaul 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: the cooling system two or seventy five thousand miles. It's 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: almost broken in it's time. Welcome to the radio home 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor. Since this is 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in the 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: garage doors are open, but I am here to take 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: your call at eight five five five six, and now 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: he running due As parents have a responsibility, how teach 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: our kids to drive and what to drive and how 16 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: safe we keep them while they're driving it. The answers yes, 17 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about that because it's become a 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: parent to me. No pun intended that we're more concerned 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: with dollars than safety. I think there's three words that 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: we have to take out of the vocabulary of people 21 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: as they drive their car. I'll tell you the story 22 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: this way. Two thousand nine. Lexus come into the shop 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: this week and I hadn't seen the car a while. 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: It's been about a year and four months, and it 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: used to be the dad's car. And now the Sun 26 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: is driving the car, and the Sun is in college. 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: He's got an internship. He's a I think he's a senior, 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: junior or senior, and he's just beginning his life. So 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: he's just starting to see the value in my mind 30 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: of what a good car can do, right what it 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: what it will do for you, what it can do 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: with you, what what what it will do while you're 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: driving it. And I looked this two thousand nine legs 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: with a hundred and three thousand miles on it overall overall, 35 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: and I came to the conclusion it was obvious it 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: needed breaks. It had an oil leak. I didn't know why, 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: but it had an oil leak. It needed some other 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: repairs and basic maintenance. It hadn't it hadn't had a 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: cooling service, it hadn't had fuel system cleaning, things for reliability, 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: trans service, just the usual things you would expect on 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: a car of this vintage at this mileage, and I 42 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: explained all that to the dad, and this is when 43 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: I realized the words that people use are powerful, right 44 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: we we we as a people, when we communicate with 45 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: each other, it's what we say, how we say, and 46 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: the words we say that that make it whether or 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: not people will either listen to us, what impact they have. 48 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: The statement, okay, let's call it the statement, well, you know, iron, 49 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: he's only using the car a few times a week. 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: That's the first word that has to go. Only. Only 51 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: can't be used, all right, because if we say if 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: he's using the car a few times of week, it 53 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: has more impact. Yeah, but you're limiting it by saying only. 54 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: You're making it sound diminished. It's not a lot. And 55 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: he's only using it a few times a week because 56 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: he's just driving to Trenton. Just that's the second word 57 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: that's got to go, all right. And Maryland to see 58 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: his girlfriend. So just Trenton. Trenton from North Jersey is 59 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: an hour and fifteen minutes, an hour and twenty minutes, 60 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: depending on traffic. If you're on Route nine, it might 61 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: be three hours. Maryland. Maryland isn't around the corner from 62 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: anywhere in the tri state area. And you know, to 63 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: put anyone, much less a young person in a vehicle 64 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: four or five hours away that isn't well maintained, isn't 65 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: safe and reliable, has got to be a recipe for disaster. 66 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: Third part of the conversation, Third group of words. I 67 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: just need you to make it a little bit safe. 68 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: What's a little bit safe? Is this? Is this like 69 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: being a little bit pregnant. You are, you're not. It's 70 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: it's one or the other, and it's safer, it's not. 71 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: So tell me where you want me to stop, Tell 72 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: me where you want me to you know, just because 73 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: and and and this is where it always comes down. 74 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: That's more than I expected to repair. I think is 75 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: to pay. I think the estimate was by the time 76 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: we looked at everything the car needed, Okay, you know 77 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 1: what we'll do. I thought about it. I had to 78 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: take it a breath and and you know, try not 79 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: to reach through the phone verbally, and I said, here's 80 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Car has to be safe. Safety first, right, 81 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: One of the first things I learned in order to 82 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: repair forty five, maybe forty six years ago. It's got 83 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: to have good breaks. It's got to have good tires. 84 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: It has to have a safe front end, it's got 85 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: a steer where you point it, and it's got to 86 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: be reliable. I mean, it's got to start right. So 87 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: let's fix the brakes first. We'll fix the brakes first. 88 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: We won't focus so much on the check engine light 89 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: because I had started to diagnose a check engine light, 90 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: which is one of the reasons it came in. It 91 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: had an EVAPP fault, evaporative emissions, I said, and you could. 92 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: You could drive a car from New Jersey to California 93 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: and back again seven times on an EVAP fault. All right, 94 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: it's not going to limit the operation of the vehicle 95 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: what it does do. And I explain this to the 96 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: dad that once the check engine light is on, because 97 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: there's a fault in the system and it sets a 98 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: second fault, it doesn't glow any brighter, different color illumination. 99 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: You know, that's it. It's on. It's on. So if 100 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: the car starts to pile up faults additional problems, the 101 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: driver in this case, the young driver won't know. And 102 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: don't you think young drivers have a hard enough time 103 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: coping with all the insanity out on the road now? 104 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: As it is in the technology of cars that we 105 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: have to try and give them a good safe operating environment. 106 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: Did that kind of makes sense, but only just in 107 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: a little bit safe is what we're dealing with. So 108 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: I said, let's focus on the brakes, will clear codes. 109 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: I'll run monitors. If I can get the self test 110 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: monitors to run, the car could legally be inspected in 111 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: New Jersey. All right, I'll change the oil and we'll 112 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: call it a day. I said, I'll look at some 113 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: of the other things. If that's where you want to go, 114 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, and that's what we'll do. Great, let's do that. 115 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: So that we proceeded along. I ran monitors, the car 116 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: was eligible for inspection, It got inspected. Legitimately, all the 117 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: monitors ran, the oil got changed, the brakes were done, 118 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: and a few other odds, and then some of the mistakes. 119 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: I found the oil leak, which I couldn't help but fixed. 120 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: Was the last oil change place had used a poor quality, 121 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: very thin copper gasket in place of the correct hard 122 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: shim and rubber gasket that Toyota wants to be there. 123 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: Put a correct oil drain plug on. Fix the leak. 124 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: There washed down the power steering pump that had oil 125 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: all over it, which I suspect is the pump itself leaking, 126 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: But we didn't want to fix that, so we washed 127 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: it down, added a diet of the fluid system so 128 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: we can see where it is the next time it's in. 129 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: And all in all, we spent just under two grand, 130 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: so I guess only only just in a little bit safe. 131 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: The price difference is eight hundred bucks. And I think 132 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: about that, and I thought about that, since this is 133 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago the car was done, and 134 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: I said, what is the value a of the life 135 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: of a young driver, the experience of a young driver, 136 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: and how we mold that young driver and teach them 137 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: to take care of a vehicle, whether it whether it's 138 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: a two thousand nine Lexus, Chevrolet or Ford whatever that's 139 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: gonna fly in a couple of twenty years. What difference 140 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: does it make? Because you see, if you're the adult, 141 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: if you're the parent, it's your responsibility. It's your responsibility 142 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: to teach the kid. You know, I get it. You 143 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: know you don't want to hand your kids the world 144 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: on a silver platter, because responsibility and work ethic has 145 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: to be built. I understand that, But there's that line 146 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: of going too far. I think, let the kid break 147 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: down on the road, Let's see what happens. Let's see 148 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: if he gets out of it. And people say that 149 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: to me, and I wonder if we realize, as parents 150 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: were saying that without saying it. I wonder if we 151 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: realized that thoughts in our head and what's our responsibility 152 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: on how we should deal with it? Something to think about, 153 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,599 Speaker 1: only just and a little bit safe, Ronan any in 154 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: the car doctor here, the phone numbers eight zero, the 155 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: luck going out. In the next two hours, we're gonna 156 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: be talking about well, no, we're not gonna do it 157 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: this week, Let's do it next week. Um, let's do 158 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about the fact that next week, 159 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: next week, in honor of the dad's father's right, we're 160 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: giving away a twenty five dollar a rally gift card. 161 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: Not this week, not this hour, next week. So I 162 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: want you to start thinking about that, uh Tom, and 163 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: I'll come up with a little contest on you know 164 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: how we're going to award that, so that I'll give 165 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: you guys a week to think about it. Just be aware, 166 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: But I am here to answer all your questions. We're 167 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: gonna kick the garage doors open right after I come 168 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: back from this zero zero zero run in the car doctor. 169 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: Don't go away you when you get keep Ron's number 170 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: hand eight five five five six zero nine nine zero 171 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: zero for when you really need advice on your car. 172 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: Here's Rob. Hey, let's get over to Jim in Wisconsin. Jim, 173 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: welcome to the Car Doctor, running any and at your service, sir, 174 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: How can I help? How are you doing? I'm just 175 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: I called you about two or three months ago on 176 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: that chev Trailblazers. Okay, was in two at V six. Um, 177 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: we're kind of still getting um, kind of crappy gas mileage. UM, 178 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: I would say I'm getting about ten ten leven ish. 179 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: That's about it. Um, I did what you told me 180 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: to do. I did the O two, said I did 181 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: the plugs. Um, just a little baffled. I don't know. Okay, 182 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: Well here, let's let's back up, because I don't I 183 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: sort of remember the call. Why Why did I say 184 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: to change the two? Did I say to test the 185 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: O two or replace the O two? Because generally I 186 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: won't say to replace something. I think you said tested 187 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: it didn't it didn't show any codes. But but I 188 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: changed it anyways, so it was all credit and and um, 189 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: and I did the fuel filtering, changed all new plugs. 190 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: So I'm guessing somewhere in our conversation. I bet if 191 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: I replayed, it be interesting to do that, Tom, to 192 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: replay conversations from two months ago. I bet it's the 193 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: same answer, um, in that I would, out of lea 194 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: have said, take a look at fuel trim. Did we 195 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: have that conversation? Okay, so we should go look at 196 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: fuel trim. Alright. Fuel trim is and that's where every 197 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: fuel economy diagnosis starts. So maybe I didn't say it. 198 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: Maybe it just got mixed in the shuffle with spark 199 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: plugs and O tooth sensors. Who knows, Um, So let's 200 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: go look at fuel trim alright. Fuel trim is a 201 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: mathematical measurement of how much fuel the computer thinks it 202 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: needs to add to base numbers. Example, all right, the 203 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: federal government says, we're gonna sell this O two trailblazer. 204 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna drive it in Wisconsin. We're going to allow 205 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: the system to adjust for altitude and temperature and cold, 206 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: but it always has to work from a base number. 207 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: The base number is it's going to add three bridgets, 208 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: three widgets of fuel to one widget of air, all right, 209 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: and that's that that that that three and one would 210 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: equate to zero. All right. But for some reason on 211 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: Jim's trail Blazer, fuel trim is skewed. There's something not 212 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: reporting a correct measurement. Maybe the cooling tempt sensor is 213 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: off ten degrees, maybe the intake air tempt sensors off 214 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: five degrees. Maybe the barometric pressure sensor is off. It 215 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: thinks it's up in the mountains and it's really a 216 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: Wisconsin hyder vice versa. So it so it starts to 217 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: add fuel. All right. Um, if you look at fuel trim, 218 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: remember high school. This is the best example I always give. 219 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: Remember high school geometry with with the X and y 220 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: axis and the and the number lines and they would 221 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: have zero and then there was positive integers and negative 222 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: integers for numbers. I was pretty crappy in geometry, so 223 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: I don't remember. Well, let's let's go back now. It's basics, man, 224 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: it's we got zero on it. We got zero on 225 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,599 Speaker 1: a line right on a piece of graph paper. And 226 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 1: every square block is one, two, three, four zero is 227 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: base fuel trim All right. If you if you look 228 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: at short term fuel trim, you'll see that car start 229 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: to add anywhere from three to ten points of fuel 230 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: off a base. Eventually that car will add so much 231 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: short term fuel trim in the case of a broken car, 232 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: that you'll see that short term fuel trim maybe climbed 233 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: to twenty five points, and then all of a sudden 234 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: long term fuel trim, which is history, if you want 235 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: to think of it like that. So there's really nothing 236 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: you can do. I mean, I guess if the car 237 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: runs great. I mean, there's there's no well, well no, 238 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: we don't know that yet. We don't know that yet 239 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: because watch watch my answer. All right, there's there's too many. 240 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: There's two measurements of fuel trim, all right, there's long term, 241 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: short term. Long term is history. Short term is now 242 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: that here and now. Long term is what you had 243 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: for dinner last night. Short term is what you're eating 244 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: right now at the moment the computer tracks fuel trim. 245 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: When it gets a certain edge where it gets to 246 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: the maximum electronic adjustment of short term trim, it bumps 247 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: long term one point, and then short term resets to zero. 248 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: When it starts climbing those numbers again. Okay, so if 249 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: you look at fuel trim, and fuel trim is excessive, 250 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: and here you said, you said the magic word, right, 251 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: there's no codes, there's no check engine light. Okay, here's 252 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: why looking at fuel trim or looking at data is 253 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: so important. All right, do you ever get sick? Uh? 254 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: Not recently? No, Well, but you've been You've been sick 255 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: in your life, right, sore throat? Yeah, yeah, right, yeah. Um, 256 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, if you had the math test on Wednesday, Monday, 257 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: you didn't start to feel so good. You were trying 258 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: to convince mom, I don't think I can go to 259 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: school Wednesday. Mom. Yeah, okay, So so you know, on 260 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: on on on Monday, all right, that sort of throat 261 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: was there, but it wasn't full blown by Wednesday. That 262 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: that sort of throat was full blown. You had a fever, 263 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: you had an upset stomach, you weren't going to school. Brother, Okay, 264 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: cars kind of cars kind of worked the same way. 265 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: But there's a parameter, there's a there's a there's a 266 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: scientific or mechanical or mathematical limit of a test they 267 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: give it. So my point becomes, if fuel trim sets 268 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: a fault code at twenty five points and that turns 269 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: on the light. You know, sets a code, turns on 270 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: the light. All right, if your fuel trim is and 271 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: the number is twenty five to set a code and 272 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: turn on the light, is it gonna Is it gonna 273 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: set a code? Probably not? No? How could it? If 274 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: if the if the dish say something knowing that makes sense? 275 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: So because one time I did check it and I 276 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: got fourteen, which I was real happy. But then, you know, 277 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense now because what you're saying, 278 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: you know is absolutely which I had, which I kind 279 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: of had no idea what you meant when you started, 280 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: But now you explain it, I kind of get it now. 281 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: It makes sense, right, you know it's it's it's go 282 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: go Google and look up short and long term fuel 283 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: trim and and the point becomes here's your takeaway, Jim. Okay, 284 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: And then we can talk about this again. You can 285 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: call me back next week because I'm glad to help you. 286 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: Um that the takeaway becomes something not sometimes every time. 287 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: Every time, diagnosing a car and its problem isn't knowing 288 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: what's bad. If you knew it was bad, there's nothing 289 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: to diagnose. If you look up to a car put 290 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: your hand on the fender and go, um, it's it's 291 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: it's the throttle positions, and my god, you'd be running. 292 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: You'd be running the world. Okay, you know. But sometimes 293 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: in a lot of times, all the time, it's knowing 294 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: what's good will help you find what's bad, prove what's good. 295 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: It's tedious and it's time consuming. Nobody wants to take that, 296 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: nobody wants to go through the pain of diagnosis. But 297 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: it's the truth to know what's bad in a car. 298 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes no codes, no obvious symptoms. Sometimes you are forced 299 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: to look at what's good. And that doesn't mean screwing 300 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: parts on the car. That means hooking up test equipment 301 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: and going for a rod and understanding what you're looking for. 302 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: You ever go to the doctor and say, Doc, I 303 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: just don't feel good. But he can't find anything wrong 304 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: with you. What does he do? They check everything, They poke, prod, 305 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: insert blood pressure, look down your throat, look up your ears, 306 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: look up everything else until they find out what's bad. 307 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: And that's just like working on a car, same problem, 308 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: same idea, different model. All right, sir, you take good care, Yeah, 309 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: you let me know what comes out to that and 310 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: that's the way it is. Listeners, it's it's gotta be Yeah, 311 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: I get it. The O two censor had crud on it, 312 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: not faulting anybody. Maybe I've got an oil consumption problem. 313 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: You know, I would love to have seen what fuel 314 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: trim was, because there's no rule also that says that 315 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: car only has one problem. I would love to see 316 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: what the fuel trim was. Bolt sensor versus new censor 317 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: doesn't make a difference. Are we going in the right direction. 318 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: We've got to get away from this. I want to 319 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: change parts. There's only one problem with the car we've 320 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: got to get into. I gotta diagnose it. I gotta 321 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: prove what's good. I'm on a nady in the car doctor. 322 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away, that's 323 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: not go pissy. She was they in that. Oh my, 324 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: she woke up and took me by the hand. She's 325 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: gonna love me and last Chevy Van and that's all 326 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: right with me. Hey, welcome back. We're nating of the 327 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: car doctor, you know, just real quick before we get 328 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: back to the phones. Uh, you know, talking about testing 329 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: and diagnosing and finding information. So I was recently out 330 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: on all data dot com All Data dot com, and 331 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: you know, just what do they have here? And I 332 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: started looking around and I actually got into their new 333 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: this month newsletter, the All Data Newsletter, and there's an 334 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: excellent article that they've written about mass airflow sensor testing, 335 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: and they break it down pretty much the description I 336 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: just gave you regarding short term fuel TRIMP. But they're 337 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: talking about graphing the points of a mass airflow censor, 338 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: which is one of the critical engine censors we talked 339 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: about from time to time for intake are measurement. And 340 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: they explain it in theory. They talk about Graham's per second. 341 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: They talk about it, you know, from a voltage frequency perspective, 342 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: and they help you understand what that sensor's supposed to do. 343 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: You've got to get away from I think this is bad. 344 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: That's another word we're gonna add to the list that's 345 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: gonna be prohibited in order repair only just a little 346 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: bit safe. And and you know, um, I think this 347 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: is bad. I think has to go away also, so 348 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: you'll find more articles like this mass airflow sensor testing 349 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: and all the rest out there at all data dot com. 350 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: Just look up their newsletter or look up their resources 351 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: technical information and you'll find it. Enjoy good stuff. Let's 352 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Conuton, Wisconsin, O nine Mariner 353 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: and some training fluid questions. Can you welcome to the 354 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: car doctor? How can I help? Hey? How you doing? Ron? 355 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: You know, first of all, I'm just always impressed with 356 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: your incredible knowledge of cars. You are one smart guy. 357 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: You know. From from one I all change so the 358 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: next I can't remember where my drain plug is, you know. 359 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: So That's where I'm at. But I can't but I 360 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: can't do anything else. You know, this year they finally 361 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 1: allowed me to start mowing my own lawn. And now 362 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, and now I'm like driving that lawn moore 363 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: around that I'm going. I wonder how much faster I 364 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: can make this thing. You know, they do have a 365 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: robot robot lawnmowers. Now that would take the fun out 366 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: of it. I'm having fun playing with the lawn mower. 367 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking if I, if I, if I hunkered down 368 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: in the seat a little bit and kick up the 369 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: throttle and I opened up the mixture a little bit, 370 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: I can probably get another two miles an hour out 371 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: of that thing. I'll cut that lawn so fast I'll 372 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: have my neighbors all jealous. So but you just end 373 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: up running over the dog. Well, yeah, I don't want 374 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: to do that either, good dog. So what's going on? 375 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: How can I help you in the Mariner today? Uh? 376 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 1: Not the O nine. The Mercury Mariner right slash escape 377 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: three point ovis the six automatic and it calls for 378 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: Mercan l V transmission fluid correct um. The transmission was 379 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: flushed when I first got the car thirty thousand miles ago, 380 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: and it currently has b G Universal fluid in it. 381 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: And I want to do just a simple drain and 382 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: fill which only will take out four or five of 383 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: the nine quarts in that tranny, and I want to 384 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: use from markan LV. Is that compatible with b G? 385 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: Or am I going to blow everything up? That's a 386 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: that's a that's a b G question. I've got to 387 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: think it is compatible because how could they How could 388 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: they allow you to install or have someone install a 389 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: fluid that's compatible with the trans but not compatible with 390 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: the original fluid it came with. Right? That doesn't that 391 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. You know, if I didn't know 392 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: there was right sure? What if what if you sold 393 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: the car as a used car and the next person 394 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: that bought it put you know, merkon lv in it 395 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: would they you know, and and the trans up. I 396 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: mean that would just be I think the lawsuit we 397 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: would we could hear the lawyers bouncing off the walls. 398 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 1: I don't think that's possible. You know, that's really good? Yeah. Um. 399 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: Now I will say this, if you want to do 400 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: a fluid exchange, depending upon the setup, don't forget. You 401 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: could pop a trans cooler line off, all right, put 402 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: it on the ground in a pan, you know, put 403 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: a pan underneath it, take the trans cooler line off. 404 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: Just figure out which is the end and which is 405 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: the out. So you've got you know, if you want 406 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: to take off and put a hose on each end, 407 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: and you see which way the fluids flowing. And while 408 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: while the engines running it idle, don't let it get 409 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: too hot. Dump the fluid in the pan. It'll start 410 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: the sputter. Shut the car off, fill it up with fluid, 411 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: agin run until it sputters, and eventually it takes more fluid. 412 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: It's not exactly you know, the most economical way to 413 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: do it, but you will replace all the fluid in 414 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: the unit. We've done it, you know, in the shop, 415 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: we'll do it that way. There are certain cars we 416 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: can't get the machine to hook up to, and we'll 417 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: do it that way. And it's it's important because never 418 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: mind that it's B G Universal or John Smith Universe 419 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: or whatever the fluid is. There are moments where trans 420 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: fluid it just flat wears out. The editive package just 421 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: doesn't hold up anymore, and the fluid's worn out. And 422 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, putting fresh fluid and will fix a pile 423 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: of problems everything from shutter to engagement to smoothness of 424 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: shift to just you know how long the unit's gonna last. 425 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, I've done that procedure 426 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: with my wife, step forrest Or. It just has rubber 427 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: hoses going to the court that works. That's one. I 428 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: can't even see where that well, that's you know, that's 429 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: the other. Yeah, that's the other issue. It's um. It's 430 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: you know, you look at the way cars are built, 431 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: and they were never clearly made to be worked on 432 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: sometimes and I scratched my head and awe at the 433 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: stupidity of the engineers, uh calling him like I see it, 434 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: you know, carpenter Bob his um he's driving a two 435 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: thousand Chevy astro van, remember those h you know, right, 436 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: and and and and yeah, it's still going and it 437 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: broke this week, all right, So he had a toad 438 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: in and um, it's always fun working with carpenter Bob 439 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: because I get to drive him nuts. You know. He 440 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: always kids me like I can't do anything with one, 441 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: and I tell him he can't do anything with cars. 442 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: So so he brings the car in and he's out 443 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: in the park a lot. He takes the engine cover off, 444 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: which is no small task because as you can imagine, 445 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: he's got tools and books and and and everything piled everywhere, 446 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: and he's got to empty the van out. He gets 447 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: the engine cover off, he takes the passenger seat out, 448 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 1: and it doesn't start, and then all of a sudden, 449 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: through the miracle of technology, it starts. Now you know, 450 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: it's limited. He's cramped. He can't get in there. You 451 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: can just about see the top of the engine even 452 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: with the engine cover off. So without talking to me, 453 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: he puts everything back in. He spent the day taking 454 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: everything out, putting everything back in. He goes home, he says, 455 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: I'll be back tomorrow to get the van. Okay, I said, 456 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: all right, Bobby, whatever you wanted. Though, I go to 457 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: move it because I don't want it at that end 458 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: of the lot. I want at that end of the lot. 459 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: And it breaks, it doesn't start. Call him up, Bob, 460 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: your van doesn't start, you gotta come back, And a 461 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: few choice words later. He shows up the next day 462 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: and where am I going with this? Here's where I'm going. 463 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: He takes the whole thing back apart again, and while 464 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: we're cranking it, I said, do you hear that? I 465 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: hear tik tik tik tik tik tik tik tik tik. 466 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: He goes, no, I don't hear anything. I go to 467 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: coil's arcing. I, you know, canute. I don't know what 468 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: possessed me to do it, but I reach in there 469 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: and I take the coil wire. The coil wire was 470 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: laying against the transmission dipstick to all right, and it 471 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: was just a little bit moist and a little bit damp, 472 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: and I took the coil wire. I went dank and 473 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: the truck fired right up, and he looked at me 474 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: and says, how do you do that? And I went, 475 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: you know it's not wood, kid, I mean, it's just 476 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: I get this, This just all makes sense. Well, yeah, 477 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: that's what he jumped in there with. Right, So long 478 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: story short, we talk about where we start with this, 479 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: about how you can't work on cars. I said, so 480 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: that's what's broken. Now, who get to fix it? He said, 481 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: how's that? I said, plugs cap rotor wires? You ever 482 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: do plugs cap rotor wires on a Chevy astro van? 483 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: That engineer should be that engineer should be hung all right, 484 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: it would be like the Jaguars. You just have to 485 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: jack up the engine to get to the Yeah, you know, 486 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: it would be easier to take a saws all cut 487 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: the cut from the back of the eight pillar in 488 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: the roof. And I said that to him. I said, 489 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: do you ever notice that they put tilt noses on 490 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: fifty five Chevies to make gasers? He said, yeah, I go, well, 491 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: they were thinking about doing that the astro vans, but 492 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: they ran out of money, so they started to put 493 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: it on a budget. But every vent there isn't a 494 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: van out there that shouldn't have a tilt nose to 495 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: work on the engine. It's ridiculous. Yeah, it's it's it's 496 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: that only took him that only took him three days 497 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: to complete. Um yesterday, yesterday he finally finished it. I 498 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: think he was ready to just like you know, he 499 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: was ready to walk off the edge of the planet. So, 500 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: but dynamite, that's what he needs in that truck. Yeah, yeah, 501 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's it's a good vehicle. It 502 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: works well. But like like your mariner, you can't see anything, right, 503 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: you just can't. You can't get close to anything. You 504 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: can't see anything. It's all it's a mess, all right, listen, 505 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: let me write any anything else. One final question? How 506 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: long is how they say the LVS starts to break 507 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: down pretty quick? Is the b G got any better 508 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: life span to it after thirty or um? I think 509 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: that's a b G question. My thought is b G 510 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: is just telling you it's a universal fluid. That's the 511 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: equivalent of the manufacturer unless they put it extra. You know, 512 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: they make the fluids better, whether it's oil or trans 513 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: or power steering from any of the manufacturers. They're just 514 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: putting extra vitamins in there, all right, that's all they're doing. 515 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: So you know, we we go on the principle that 516 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: lv should be changed every fifty to sixty if you want, 517 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: if you if you wanted to do it at thirty, 518 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: if you know. A lot of this depends on color, age, color, 519 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, and and also time. If it's been five 520 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: years but thirty thousand miles, then change it. If it's 521 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: been two years and thirty thousand miles, I probably blue 522 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: waited another twenty, but you know, you make that decision. 523 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm a maintenance noting. My friends all laugh at me 524 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: for doing it, but I've never plumed a car either, 525 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: So right, so there you go? All right? Can you 526 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: let me run? I'm up against the clock. You have 527 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: a good rest of the day, and thanks for calling in. 528 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: We appreciate you and being part of the car doctor family. 529 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: Run any and the car doctor back right after this. 530 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: Welcome back, run an ind of the card. I can. 531 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: Let's get right to it. Let's go over to sal 532 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 1: in Long Island, Oh to Pontiac Firebird Sal. Welcome back, sir. 533 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 1: What are we working on today? Hey? How are you? Um? 534 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: I got an O two fire Bird. It's the collective edition. 535 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: It's an LS one motto with the w S six package. 536 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: Sure neat car it' I haven't done any maintenance through 537 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: this cost since I have it and I bought a 538 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: brand new now it's got the original cooling in it. 539 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's eighteen years old. I'm assuming I got issues. Um, 540 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: I just don't know how bad. Okay, So usually changed 541 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: the oil once a year, don't drive it a lot, 542 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: and it's it's only got about it. So here, let's 543 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: do this all right, because I've only got a couple 544 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: of minutes, and you know I'm glad to give you 545 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: more if you called back. Um, have you ever heard 546 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: of coolant dip strips? Yeah? Okay, why don't we? Why 547 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: don't we? Why don't we lit miss tests or cooling 548 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: dip strip the cooling. Let's see how good or bad 549 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: it really is. Make sure you get the right stuff 550 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: rated for that particular coolant, which I believe is it's 551 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: not organic. I'm thinking trying to think of the other 552 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: word um, oat based. Maybe it is organic um. But 553 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: you want to make sure it's decks rated, decks coolant 554 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: rated and you know sea where it stands. Sea word 555 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: falls on the scale. So if it if it tests 556 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: good and clean and it's got no acidity to it, 557 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: number one, number two, you'll also get an idea of 558 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: what the cooling system itself, with the steel on the 559 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: block is doing I mean me, after eighteen years, i'd 560 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: probably change it anyway, so I you know, but I 561 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: would also want to make sure that you know, at 562 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: this point, do I do I pull core plugs out 563 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: of the side of the block. How crazy am I 564 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: going to get? You know? It's it's you know, I 565 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 1: get what you do? Exchange? Yeah, I do an exchange. 566 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: D Yeah, I do an exchange because to do it, 567 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: to do a drain on something that old, to do 568 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: a drain, you're only going to get the radiator. The 569 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: radiator only holds approximately one third of the coolth on 570 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: the average car. So if it's a if it's a 571 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: ten quart system, what are you gonna get out four quarts? 572 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: You know? If that um, I would do them all. 573 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: If it's wet, If it's wet, replace it, period and 574 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: the conversation. You know it can't h well, if it's 575 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, gear oil's wet, you know, transfluids, wet engine oil, 576 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: you're doing break fluid. You know. If it's a liquid 577 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: and wet, as the saying goes at this age, I 578 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: would just automatically change it. You know, it's just it's 579 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: just well and think about it like this. You know, well, well, okay, 580 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: so change the transfluent gear oil gear gear oil like 581 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: old oils, absorbed moisture. All right now, listen, let me 582 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: just let me just beat up for a second. And 583 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, I love you. I know you call a lot. 584 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: I know who you are. Um, drive the car, you know, 585 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: drive the car. Listen. You know I had this thought 586 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: in my head this week, I'm gonna start driving blackmore. 587 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: All right, nobody. You know what it's. It's I'm getting older. 588 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: It's I don't know what I'm saving for. It's like 589 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: time to go out and kick it and you know, 590 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: enjoy it and drive it like you stole it a 591 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: little bit. And uh, you know, the sport is definitely shrinking. 592 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: There's less people on the road today that appreciate a 593 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: classic car or hot rod or a muscle car or 594 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: anything anymore. More. People are more concerned with just trying 595 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: to survive. And I get it. Those are the times 596 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: we live in. But you know, it's not like we're 597 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: saving these things to give to our kids, because our 598 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: kids it's a different culture, it's a different generation, and um, 599 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: it's it's it's time to drive it. So all right, sir, 600 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You're very welcome. You're very welcome, Syle. 601 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: I hope I helped. Um. Let's leave it there, Ron 602 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: in any of the car doctor zero nine zero. Let's 603 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: pull away, take a pause. I'll be back right after this. Hey, 604 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: welcome back, Ron, any of the car doctor. Let's do 605 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: a quick piece of email. This comes to us from 606 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: Butch in Knoxville, Tennessee. I love Knoxville. Best ribs in 607 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: the world, well so far, Um. I gotta try a 608 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: few other places, but the best ribs at Calhoun's down 609 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: there in Knoxville. Butch right saying, Hey, Ron, I'm a small, 610 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: one town, one guy repair shop, and I'm thinking of 611 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: purchasing a new air conditioning machine. And I'm looking around 612 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: at the industry. Can you tell me what's out there? 613 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: What do you like, what would you use? What are 614 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: some of the points I need to go look at. 615 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm really lost and overwhelmed at this stage. Butch from Knoxville, Tennessee, 616 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: which is auto repair? You know? Butch, Um, it's funny 617 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: you right in and your timing is impeccable. Sir. I 618 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: was recently talking with some folks from Mala m A 619 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: h L. E. You can find more information at service 620 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: Solutions dot Mala dot com. And I mean a ton 621 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: of information. And you know, we were discussing this very thing, 622 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: how do you pick an a C machine? And you know, 623 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: during the course of our conversation, a couple of things 624 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: came up, and you know, it's sort of got broken 625 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: down at the categories. And one of those is, you know, servicing, 626 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: all right, because sooner or later, whatever you buy, all right, 627 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: that unit is gonna need some kind of maintenance. It's 628 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: gonna need filter replacement, it's gonna need maybe some software updates. 629 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: And you've got to always be aware of what sort 630 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: of servicing or maintenance does that manufacturer provide. One of 631 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: the nice things about the Mala units are they kind 632 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: of opened the hood like a car. Just it lifts 633 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: up and you can get everything. It's wide open, it's 634 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: easily accessible. It's it's it's it's setting the standard for 635 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: the industry, all right. Um. Something else that I noticed, 636 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: and we were going over their machines, and I can 637 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: tell you this because I've looked at most of the unit. 638 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: I've looked at just about every unit on the market 639 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, just trying to gain some 640 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: knowledge that they're technology side. Again. Over at Mala M A. H. L. 641 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: E um Is is staggering. They've actually got a phone app. 642 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna use this in a 643 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: one man repair shop in Knoxville, Tennessee, but you might 644 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: use it in a ten man repair shop somewhere else 645 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: or anywhere else. But they give you a phone app 646 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: so you can actually look at the machine from your 647 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: phone and get messages and and and and and and 648 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: right on the phone a phone app session. It's the 649 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: only one in the industry that's doing it. They have 650 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: a tech support team that and I thought this was 651 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: really cool. You know, we go into our car computers, 652 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: or we go into our desktop computers with remote AC 653 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: software access. They're doing it with tech support. They've got 654 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: their machine set up using WiFi and the ability of 655 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: using the fact that they can go in and access 656 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: the machine with tech support and help prepare it, diagnose it, 657 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: and solve the problem for you no machine downtime. Take 658 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: a look at them service Solutions dot Mala dot com. 659 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: Let me know what you think. I'm run on any 660 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: in the car doctor This time till then next time. 661 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're prices. See you