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<v Speaker 2>Supplies are limited. Once they're gone, they're gone. The Hornets

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<v Speaker 2>to come to La beat the Lakers. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>rescheduled game. Remember they were supposed to play earlier in

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<v Speaker 2>the year, but the Palisade fires forced this cancelation, so

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<v Speaker 2>this was the makeup game. The only game on the

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<v Speaker 2>dock at tonight, and the Hornets come into La and

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<v Speaker 2>They win thanks to twenty nine points from Mile Bridges

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven points from LaMelo Ball who hit the floater

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<v Speaker 2>that really iced the ball game. Lebron misses threes at

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<v Speaker 2>the buzzer, but the Hornets win one hundred and ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Roy mister Cupler freed refree throws and Austin Reeves got

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<v Speaker 2>kicked out. He felt he got filed filed by Yusuf

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<v Speaker 2>Nurkic and it was his first career ejection and the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers lose to the Hornets, which was inexcusable. No matter

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<v Speaker 2>what happened with Austar Reeves, when you got Luca and

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<v Speaker 2>you got Lebron, you still should have enough to win

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<v Speaker 2>the ball game.

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<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately they did not win.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron scored sixteen in the fourth quarter, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>not enough, as the Hornets come to La and win

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<v Speaker 2>the game by the score of one hundred to ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh joke, Yeah, what do you think? Hey?

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, First off, I'm gonna skip right, I'm gonna skip

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<v Speaker 5>the beginning of the book, and I'm gonna go to

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<v Speaker 5>the last page of the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy.

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<v Speaker 5>The last three minutes of that game, uh, the last

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<v Speaker 5>three minutes of that game, LaMelo Lebron, LaMelo Miles bridges Lebron.

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<v Speaker 5>But anyway, the first half very rusty. Definitely, you could

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<v Speaker 5>tell they coming off an All Star break from both teams.

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<v Speaker 5>Luke and Lebron early on in the game showed shade

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<v Speaker 5>and what they could have been with those two have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Could it can be?

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, you know those with those fast, great points scores

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<v Speaker 5>early in the game. Outside of that, it always comes

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<v Speaker 5>down to Rui at the end of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta hit those three throws. You got to hit

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<v Speaker 1>those free throws to.

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<v Speaker 5>Give your team a chance to put your team in

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<v Speaker 5>position to win the game where it doesn't come to

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<v Speaker 5>Lebron having to make one of those last three point

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<v Speaker 5>threes at the end of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm looking at you right. It's gonna take some

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<v Speaker 1>getting you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna take some getting used to Lebron and Luca

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<v Speaker 2>playing together. You know, both guys are at their best

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<v Speaker 2>when they have the ball in their hands. And unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>there's only one basketball and there's two of those great players,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it seems like, you know, nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 2>step on anybody's toes o Joe, Okay, Hey, Luca you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna you're gonna handle it, and you do what you do, Lebron,

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<v Speaker 2>You do what you do. But it's gonna take a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know if they're gonna have enough time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, enough time to figure it out during this season.

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<v Speaker 2>But hopefully in the off season next year they can

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<v Speaker 2>get it together. But if you watch the last two minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>the last two or a half minutes of this ball

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<v Speaker 2>game the morning is all they did. All they did

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<v Speaker 2>was put Luke in pick and roll, m Melo ball.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter. They tried, they tried to hedge it.

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<v Speaker 2>They try to Doublin LaMelo give the ball up, he

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<v Speaker 2>go get it back and he brings Luca guy again.

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<v Speaker 2>They put him in the pick and roll, and they

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<v Speaker 2>got a white. They got a couple of wide open threes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then LaMelo split. They ended up taking Luca out.

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<v Speaker 2>They brought Vanderbilt in, but that makes him really small,

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<v Speaker 2>so now they got no remp protection. Lamello splits, it

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<v Speaker 2>gets down. Here's the floater, and basically that was the

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<v Speaker 2>four point lead that they needed. Lebron ends up hitting

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<v Speaker 2>a big three, but they have to file. They go

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<v Speaker 2>make both free throws and then Lebron miss two threes

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<v Speaker 2>at the end. But Luca's gonna have to get better

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<v Speaker 2>in the picking roll. They're gonna have to do a

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<v Speaker 2>better job. They seem to be in control of this

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<v Speaker 2>ball game. And then I think they allow the Hornets

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<v Speaker 2>to go on twenty to something, twenty one, twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>to one run.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I that can't happen, right, I got a Christian

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<v Speaker 5>for you too, now, yeah, you speaking. Both players, Lebron

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<v Speaker 5>and Luca both are comfortable liking to be on the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>Luca tonight, to me look very uncomfortable out there. He's

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<v Speaker 5>not used to playing with that, He's not used to

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<v Speaker 5>playing without the ball in his hand.

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<v Speaker 1>At the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>So how long does it take or does Lebron understand

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<v Speaker 5>that Luca likes to be on the ball. He's much

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<v Speaker 5>more comfortable on the ball, playing in rhythm like that,

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<v Speaker 5>especially in transition.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Lebron, Lebron doesn't have a problem. Lebron is better

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<v Speaker 2>at playing off the ball than Luca. Although Lebron plays

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<v Speaker 2>better with the ball in his hand, but he's still

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<v Speaker 2>more comfortable than Luca playing off the ball. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>O Jo, they we're gonna have to figure this out,

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<v Speaker 2>and Lebron is like, okay, y'all, do y'all thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden the game starts getting out

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<v Speaker 2>of hand. Lebron's a f desk, give me the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>got it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what it comes down to, A f dik, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I done.

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<v Speaker 2>Gave y'all enough opportunities. But that third quarter is what

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<v Speaker 2>doomed them and the Lakers that kind of been there

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<v Speaker 2>buggaboo the last four or five years. The third quarter

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<v Speaker 2>they come out flat. They had what eight point lead,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a seven eight point lead going into the half,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they got get outscored thirty two to eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>in the third quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>JJ is gonna have to do a better job of

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<v Speaker 2>getting those.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys fired up.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't come out their lackadaisical bullgea a round because

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<v Speaker 2>the next thing, you know, a thirteen point lead. They

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<v Speaker 2>have a thirteen point lead, O joe in that third quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>and now all of a sudden they end up going

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<v Speaker 2>basically they getting up going down in the third. Start

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth they're down up, you know, up seven, had

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<v Speaker 2>a lead as many as thirteen and now you go

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<v Speaker 2>down because you get outscored thirty to thirty, two to fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's face farned. Listen, the game of basketball, list is

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<v Speaker 1>a game of run.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a game of run most of the time when

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<v Speaker 5>those runs actually do happen, do you want to keep

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<v Speaker 5>it as close as you can. You want to keep

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<v Speaker 5>it as close as you can. But sometimes, listen, it

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<v Speaker 5>gets away from you. It gets away from you, especially

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<v Speaker 5>if you don't have a bench that can that can

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<v Speaker 5>score consistently and give you and give you buckets when

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<v Speaker 5>your starters aren't in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Luca's rusty right now, Oh Joe, you can

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<v Speaker 2>tell he's rusty. Five of eighteen, one of nine from

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<v Speaker 2>the three, he's averaging what fourteen to fifteen points a game.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I've ever seen Luke a play

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<v Speaker 2>a stretch where he's averaged fifteen points a game.

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<v Speaker 1>He do to have one of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Games where he goes for thirty five, forty, ten or eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>He do one of those games.

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<v Speaker 2>Austin reeves getting kicked out didn't help because you know Austin, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they got three guys that can really go get their

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<v Speaker 2>own shot. Lebron Luca and Austin Reeves. Everybody else is dependent.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me, give me a put me in a situation,

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<v Speaker 2>run a ball screen for me, skip past, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hammer passed, do something, pin down. Those three guys can

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<v Speaker 2>go get their own shot. Okay, Lucas struggling, he's rusty.

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<v Speaker 2>Really the only guy that could that that's playing with

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<v Speaker 2>playing decent. And Lebron didn't have it going early. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like he's just letting it go. Because if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at Lebron, what did Lebron have in the light,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he had ten and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 5>If he scored in the third quarter, right, and and

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<v Speaker 5>so you know, it's so funny on how Lebron could

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<v Speaker 5>pick and choose when to turn it on, and when

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<v Speaker 5>he turns it on, he's efficient when he wants to

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<v Speaker 5>take a game over and say you know what, like

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<v Speaker 5>you like you said and that that that fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 5>I think had sixteen in the fourth quarter, yep, and saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I got this this is ridiculous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they did.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they get they get lax on defense, leave wide

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<v Speaker 2>open threes. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's that's the problem

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<v Speaker 2>is always going to be their problem.

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<v Speaker 1>They really don't have win protection. I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I understand they needed a big, but it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>for me to believe that Alex Linn is a better

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<v Speaker 2>big right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Even at DWIGHTE.

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<v Speaker 2>Howard age of thirty nine, It's hard for me to

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<v Speaker 2>believe Alex Lynn. I'm not saying. I'm not saying Dwight

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<v Speaker 2>Howard is Orlando Dwight Howard. I'm not saying he's Houston

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<v Speaker 2>Rocket dwhite Howard. You that, yeah, he might, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have just think about this, even though what you're saying

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<v Speaker 2>about Dwight how being better at his age, has it

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<v Speaker 2>ever been a scenario where a player who hasn't played

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how long it's been sing dwhite House

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<v Speaker 2>been out the league.

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<v Speaker 5>Has there ever been in a scenario like this where

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<v Speaker 5>a certain positions need maybe be big, maybe forward, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>be a point guard that hasn't played in a while,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's come back despite his eighties because he's better.

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<v Speaker 1>Than what you have on your bench. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard when guys start, you know, start missing a year,

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<v Speaker 2>two years, you know, I think the last time I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure when the last time the White played. Well, hell,

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<v Speaker 2>he's up for the Hall of Fame. So it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a minute. Yeah, I mean, real talk, it's been a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>But they don't they don't really have any they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Have any depth. Yeah, they miss a D.

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<v Speaker 2>But you tell me, you tell me if a what

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<v Speaker 2>team ad on and somebody says they offer you Luca

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<v Speaker 2>Dantet that you're not gonna move it. Y'all think it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like the Lakers, like the Lakers blew this. You're

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<v Speaker 2>talking a guy that's twenty five, that's that's six years younger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and let's injury.

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<v Speaker 2>Forget forget Luca being nicked at the start of this season,

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<v Speaker 2>missing all the games that he's missed. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is the first time he's gonna play fewer than sixty

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<v Speaker 2>games in his NBA career. But y'all talk about y'all

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<v Speaker 2>call the street close, y'all call it always dean, y'all

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<v Speaker 2>call now all of a sudden, you make us have

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<v Speaker 2>a little struggle down, y'all miss a D.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all miss ad what team wouldn't trade?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're on a halfful of teams that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>trade their best player or their second best player for Luca.

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<v Speaker 1>Doncics, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Milwaukee probably wouldn't do it because it's reported that

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<v Speaker 2>milklewalk they brought the trade to Milwaukee and Milwaukee said no.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably they wouldn't trade uh uh j T for it.

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<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't trade Yo Kic. Probably not gonna trade Shade.

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<v Speaker 2>But everybody else game, everybody else's game, right, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So but it's a disappointing loss. These are I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you try to make a if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make a move, these are the games that you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>that you gonna have to win.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to win.

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<v Speaker 2>So congratulations to the Hornet they come to La get

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<v Speaker 2>a victory. One hundred and ninety seven. I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to be on I'd like to be a fly on

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<v Speaker 2>a wall show in a situation like this where you

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<v Speaker 2>a game that you should have won, because even with

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<v Speaker 2>the players that the Lakers have, I still believe they're

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<v Speaker 2>a better team.

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<v Speaker 1>Than the Hornets, and you didn't win.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what the coach said, because I know what

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL coach would have said. He'd been cursing and

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<v Speaker 2>kicking ish it ain't know, Hey guy, you know we

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<v Speaker 2>just hey, we left some players out there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty fifty balls.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't none of that.

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<v Speaker 2>You lose a game and your coach believed that you

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<v Speaker 2>had the better team and it was because of effort

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<v Speaker 2>to things like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, cool, losing his mind? What hey, it's honestly,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a third quarter. You could lock it on the

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<v Speaker 5>third quarter. Third quarter is what every right away from him.

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<v Speaker 5>It did.

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<v Speaker 2>But how many times did Chad how you and y'all

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<v Speaker 2>know you if you follow the Lakers, how many times

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<v Speaker 2>did we said the third quarter? We say that year

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<v Speaker 2>after year after year after year, game after game after

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<v Speaker 2>game after game. I mean, I mean, at some point

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<v Speaker 2>in time, I mean, they let the coaches know that,

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<v Speaker 2>the players know that. I don't really know what else

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<v Speaker 2>if there is to do or to say, except go

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<v Speaker 2>out there and do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's not like we're breaking news. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>no no.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you got to open the FBI fousand and

0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.640
<v Speaker 2>unsealed documents. They played terrible in the third quarter, and

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<v Speaker 2>it has been a real current thing for the last

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<v Speaker 2>four or five years. So I really don't I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what the issue is. I don't mean

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<v Speaker 2>to be sure that's up the JJ Reddick and the

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<v Speaker 2>coaching staff, Scotty Brooks, Nate McMillan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on them to figure that issh out.

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<v Speaker 5>And the funny thing about it is JJ can talk

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<v Speaker 5>about it all he want, Scotty can talk about all

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<v Speaker 5>he want, but a hell, when the players come out

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<v Speaker 5>at halftime, they got to be the ones to execute it.

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<v Speaker 5>They got to be the ones to come out with

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<v Speaker 5>the energy. They got to be the ones to play

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<v Speaker 5>on both ends of the court, of both ends of

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<v Speaker 5>the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, we know that the problem that the Lakers going

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<v Speaker 2>to have with no A D it's defense because now

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<v Speaker 2>they have no no back line of defense. They really

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a guy that's really good in the picket

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<v Speaker 2>roll defense. And you see, like I said, the last

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half minutes, all they did was go

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<v Speaker 2>pick and roll to the game. They put Luke and

0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.400
<v Speaker 2>pick and roll with below handling the ball, and they

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<v Speaker 2>got wide open threes and LaMelo iceter game basically with

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<v Speaker 2>a floater. I mean, it's not complicated. Everybody see what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on. I mean even the most like damn, they

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<v Speaker 2>running the same play for a high pick put Luke

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<v Speaker 2>in the picket, roll boom, get what I want. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's on them to figure this out. At some point

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<v Speaker 2>in time. I'm sure Darvin Ham had this issue, Frank

0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Vogel had this issue. Now JJ have this issue, and

0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:57.879
<v Speaker 2>a lot of these players. Offston Reeves was there, Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>was there, Ruy was there. So at some point in time,

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<v Speaker 2>even when a D was there, when he was there,

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<v Speaker 2>the third quarter has been there, Bugga boot, They're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to figure this is shot. Steve Kerrt to ESPN

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't mad at Kad for rejecting to trade a

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<v Speaker 2>golden State. I don't blame Cavin one bit for not

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to rerun things here. It took so much ish

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<v Speaker 2>for like, oh, you're jumping on the bandwagon, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>Finals MVP two years in a row and it's still

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<v Speaker 2>and he still gets criticized, So why would he want

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<v Speaker 2>to face all the best again. Katie was smiling to comment,

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<v Speaker 2>That's not the reason why didn't want to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't want to get traded midway through the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you leave KD a little bit?

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<v Speaker 5>A little bit A little bit of me believes him, obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>I think even though it was mayway through the season.

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<v Speaker 5>I think through the experiment in Phoenix and I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think it's worked.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's failed. Obviously, you know, you think failure.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an absolut failure.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was too And I think I mean for KD,

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<v Speaker 5>I would I don't want to. I hate calling them

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<v Speaker 5>ring chasing, but I would have went to the better

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<v Speaker 5>situation obviously, going back over there with Draymond Green.

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<v Speaker 1>And Steph and trying to run it back and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to run it back again.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think the missing piece for them to get

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<v Speaker 5>them over the hum and probably give them the opportunity

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<v Speaker 5>in the West would be KAD going back Because what's

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<v Speaker 5>going to happen right now in Phoenix? Where are you

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<v Speaker 5>going to? You think nothing at all, nothing at all,

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<v Speaker 5>But I think you want to stay there. And if

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<v Speaker 5>you know KD know personally and you watch him from Afar,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know a story. He loves the game of basketball.

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<v Speaker 5>He loves the game of basketball, and if if he's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be hind the eight ball, he's gonna do

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<v Speaker 5>he's gonna scratch, call and do everything he can to

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<v Speaker 5>have success down there in Arizona and leave out the

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<v Speaker 5>right way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the thing why Katie was so successful he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to worry about anything but ball. See in Brooklyn,

0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.280
<v Speaker 2>he had to be a leader. You see Hope, you

0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.520
<v Speaker 2>see and and and Phoenix. He has to be a leader. Yeah,

0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Steph took care of that. Draymond took care of that,

0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Clay took care of that. So now he just gets

0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.480
<v Speaker 2>to do what he really wants to do. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't got if we have no Peth talk, I ain't

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:07.720
<v Speaker 2>got to say pick this issue up.

0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I ain't got to do none of that. I do

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<v Speaker 1>what I do. I go home and chill. That's what

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 1>he wants to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Got the problem with that, A part of it, part

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<v Speaker 2>of me does believe that he didn't want to get

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<v Speaker 2>traded during the season and say, you want to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ride this lot with his boys, ride out what.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what I mean, where you where you go? Katie? Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>They started it off, they thought it was gonna work.

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<v Speaker 5>They thought the trio with Bill, Devin Booker and him

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<v Speaker 5>will work some magic out there in the West.

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<v Speaker 1>And it hasn't worked itself out.

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<v Speaker 5>But I just think the fact that he's bounced around

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<v Speaker 5>from Brooklyn, you know, went to Golden State. He didn't

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<v Speaker 5>want to continue that same trend and be like, here

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<v Speaker 5>we go again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know something happened.

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<v Speaker 5>At some point when your relationships on you get tired

0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:57.920
<v Speaker 5>and moving on man, you get tired of moving.

0:20:57.800 --> 0:20:59.280
<v Speaker 1>On him, and sometimes you be like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just think this one out.

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<v Speaker 5>I know it ain't working, but I'm gonna stick it

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<v Speaker 5>out and do it everything I can until it's time

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<v Speaker 5>to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can tell you what he's leaving in the

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn summer. Okay, So so what did you do?

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<v Speaker 2>All you did the lady inevitable you was missering before

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<v Speaker 2>another another three four months because they're not going nowhere.

0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:18.679
<v Speaker 2>They're not doing anything right right right. They don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any defense. They're just like they're just they're just like

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers. They got no defense. They got all those scores.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got two guys that really is the

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<v Speaker 2>same guy. Book is more athletic now, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's a better player. I don't think he is. I

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<v Speaker 2>know he's a better player than Bradley Bill. But that

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<v Speaker 2>saying you got all that scoring, where the defense at

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<v Speaker 2>now they get high? You got on a given not

0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:43.560
<v Speaker 2>any of those guys can go get thirty or forty.

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Now theyven relegated Bradley Bill to the bench because they're

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<v Speaker 2>hoping he would wave his no trade claws and then

0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:51.120
<v Speaker 2>they can trade him and get Jimmy Butler. But he's like, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>I put that in there for a reason. I put

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<v Speaker 2>that in there for a reason. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>go anywhere. I hate am I not going anywhere. So

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<v Speaker 2>whether you want me or not, you don't. I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>no joy. Hey, sometimes it's cheap with a keyboard and

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<v Speaker 2>that that's that's that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>How that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>How players You see the leverage NBA players have when

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 5>it comes to stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a no trade, he don't have no leverage

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<v Speaker 2>on you. He got a new trade clause. He and

0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Lebron James one of the two players that have no trade,

0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:17.920
<v Speaker 2>so that if he didn't have that, his ass was going.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I said leverage. That's that's that's all I meant.

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<v Speaker 5>But you mean you mean to me you don't want

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<v Speaker 5>me because I'm not as playing as well as you

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<v Speaker 5>thought I should.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to do everything I can.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously, injuries are hampered me performing performing to what we're

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<v Speaker 5>used to seeing me play, like and I just got

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<v Speaker 5>here and you're trying to get me to uproot my family.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, child, please put this no trade.

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<v Speaker 5>Claus in there is in there for a reason that

0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:44.679
<v Speaker 5>there's a reason why, because that's the chick.

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<v Speaker 1>Got the man coming off the bench, big got to

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<v Speaker 1>coming off the bench. O Joe, Yeah, yeah, that'd be

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 1>like you like, man, we want to move.

0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 2>You're like, nah, I ain't going okay, O Yo, you

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<v Speaker 2>the flop? You a third receiver?

0:22:58.240 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Now? Third?

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<v Speaker 2>Who you the third receiver? Now you want to be

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 2>talking about Madden? Third receiver? You gotta know trade you

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 2>don't they want to trade you? You don't want to go? Okay,

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 2>you're the third receiver, right, I guess you going there.

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess you going there. Catch you get your little

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<v Speaker 2>three four targets on Sunday and come on home.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh hey, that's a lot of cardio bron, that's a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of cardiofs.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't, I don't, I don't. I never looked at

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<v Speaker 5>it like that. But when you're making that kind of money,

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:39.120
<v Speaker 5>Oh you want me to play?

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<v Speaker 6>What?

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Wait?

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<v Speaker 5>Let me look at this. How much I'm making and

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 5>that's all you want me to do? Okay, bet, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I'm not gonna do anything to jeopardize that money,

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 2>right right? Oh yeah, I mean he's Bradley Beal probably

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:07.640
<v Speaker 2>making forty five fifty million dollars a year. So okay,

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 2>this all, Hey, this all y'all want me to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Get y'all twenty eight minutes a night, thirty minutes a night,

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<v Speaker 2>and ain' really no strain on me because I'm coming

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<v Speaker 2>off the bench.

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, he's going together me coming off the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times you coming in there there, you

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<v Speaker 2>know that's the second you're going against the second unit.

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:25.879
<v Speaker 2>So I guess they say you can get your points

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<v Speaker 2>that way because you know the ball is gonna go

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 2>to KD book first. Those are your first two options.

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Bradley Bill has never been a third option. He's always

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<v Speaker 2>been he was he was one two when he had

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:39.680
<v Speaker 2>John Wall. When John Wall left, you know it was

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 2>I guess he had I think he had Russ. No,

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 2>he had Russ for a year or two, but he

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 2>was the first scoring option even though Russ had the

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 2>ball in his hand.

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:47.920
<v Speaker 1>So he's never been like this.

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 2>It's never been a situation where he's not used to

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 2>being able to get as many shots as he want.

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 2>He's a third option no matter how you look at it,

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 2>all right, that's what he wanted, the best third options.

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:00.400
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, you're still the third option.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know what, even as a starter, and I'm

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 5>thinking about it, if I was a starter as the

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 5>number one, that's say I was the number one in Cincinnati,

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 5>same scenario. I go to New England and I'm the

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<v Speaker 5>third or I'm the fourth guy because the option in

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 5>front of me are better at that time in that

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 5>specific system. That does something to your psyche, you know that, right,

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 5>it does something.

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 2>To take your word for it. I mean I wasn't

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, I wouldn't know like that. I wasn't no

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 2>third option, no shoe. But I take your word for it.

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 2>I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Here you go. You know some.

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:37.479
<v Speaker 2>I can't empathize the boy situation. I have a bet

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I have empathy for you. So you know what I'm

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna You know, empathy emforthing required you to divorce your ego,

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 2>separate your ego and see yourself in a similar situation.

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>So you know what. There you go, I go, yeah, pretend,

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>pretend you, Bradley Beald.

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 2>Right, Now I go from somewhere where I'm able to

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 2>play freey now I'm coming off a bench.

0:25:59.359 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Or I can't take.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't take a high volume of shots. So now

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm messed up up here. Not only am I messed up.

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<v Speaker 5>When I do get on the court, sometimes it might

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 5>head to take because I'm not in rhythm.

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 2>That means I shot efficiency in shot selection has to

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 2>be that much better. It something to you. Well, look,

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you what I think. When I got back,

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I got back to Denver, Rod was clearly the number

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.439
<v Speaker 2>one easy. Ed was coming off a severe leg injury.

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 2>So you know it's basically me and Ed fighting for

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 2>two three. But I mean there are some games, so

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 2>you have been in that position where you were the three. No,

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I was always I finished. No, I never finished when

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 2>I was on the team. I never finished. Once I

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 2>became what I became, I never finished worse than second

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 2>and catch it on the team.

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I understand that. But when you say.

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 5>I meet, I hear you. You're talking from a statistical standpoint. Yeah,

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.479
<v Speaker 5>I'm just saying you were that, you were three, No

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 5>matter what, I was not the three.

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I was then Rod Smith and McCaffrey with the one

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 2>with the one here, Rod was one. I was too

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 2>and I was too a it was to be. I

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 2>don't know what you're talking about. It sounds good, it

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 2>sounds hey. They tell y'all better you better check, you

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 2>better check it. It sound how hey? You tell me

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 2>the time you've seen a third receiver? Get to fourteen

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 2>to the game. What happened when somebody hurt you? I mean,

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:33.399
<v Speaker 2>what third receiver?

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>You know? Just say it.

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I got you, I got your listen, listen. But but look,

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I understand. But for me, oh Joe, they're like, man,

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 2>dang man, hey, you ain't catching no passes. And then

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>they used to say, bro, I got to.

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Check the father. It's clear. Mh that's on y'all. I'm

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna make the same out of Monch. See.

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 2>The thing that I love about this is that I'm

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 2>gonna make the I don't get paid by the catch.

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't get paid by the touchdown. Y'all want to

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 2>throw me t y'all want to give me ten targets, right, fine,

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 2>if you want to give me three targets, I'm gonna

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 2>make the same amount of money. So I ain't stressing out,

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm too old now now. If y'all would

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 2>have got me when I was in my twenties, I

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.439
<v Speaker 2>would have got me in my damn thirty. I got kid, man,

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get all this money i'm sumold to get.

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I ain't giving me, y'all issh back in a year

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>or two. I'm gonna take my black ass home anyway,

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 2>So y'all have ad it. I ain't get man, I'm

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.360
<v Speaker 2>not stressing out by catching no passes. I'm gonna make

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 2>the same amount of money. Oh Joe, I'm gonna make

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 2>the same. So it wasn't no strain on me. Y'all

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 2>throw it to me. I'm gonna catch it. If you don't,

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 2>you know a eighty four we probably should have gave

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 2>you a more bro the game over. Y'all telling me

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 2>what y'all should have done. They don't do it. Who

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 2>the helping? All of this should make y'all mad, because

0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>that's what y'all get paid for. My job is not

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 2>to tell you what I'm open on yo, y'all have

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 2>said mm hm, y'all tell me. Let the coaches coach

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>the players gonna play. I'm playing. I ain't calling no players. Now,

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 2>what I would get mad about to come for a quarter?

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Eighty four?

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>What you? Uh uh?

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 2>What you like our life for this game to be

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 2>over with? Y'all been bull y'all been bullguing for three

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 2>and a half quarters. That's what I would like. I

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>would like this game to be over with and so

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I can go on and get out. Hey, nah, don't

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 2>be asking me no question. Now, Hey, y'all gonna spread

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 2>it around. You know we're gonna spread it around this week.

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, aid Ed be ready, Rod be ready, y'all

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:46.479
<v Speaker 2>be ready backside of the backfield. Now, all that spreading

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 2>around is ain't work right, hey, eighty four? What you

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 2>what you like our life for this ish to be

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 2>over with?

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Y'all? Come, I can I can pitch you saying that too. Yeah.

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Now, now all of a sudden, O yoke. We got

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 2>five minutes left, We down fourteen. What I hated being

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 2>in that situation, man, I hated getting no empty calories

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 2>because when the game was mel tung hung in the balance.

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Now we got four minutes, we down fourteen, we're on

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>the ten yard line.

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>What you look at? What you like?

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'd like to have more opportunities in the first

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 2>three quarter. No, y'all keep calling. Y'all keep calling. Y'all

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 2>cant calling what y'all was calling. Just bad ad, Hey, hey,

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 2>bad plead. Y'all lifit to get my blood pressure up.

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I learned a long time ago. O yoe like I said.

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>That's why I stopped putting in centence in my contract.

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Once I realized they can manipulate that and jacked me

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>out of my one hundred grand I said, Man, I

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 2>wish I might.

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting another incentive.

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 2>They couldn't give me a million dollars in my in

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 2>my contract to go to the Pro Bowl or lead

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the team because y'all.

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>What y'all paying me.

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I should do everything that y'all trying to incentivize without

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 2>the highest payd tight end. I should leave my team

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>and receive it. I should go to the Pro Bowl.

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I should be an all pro. I don't need no incident.

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Y'all messed with that. Give me my money. I want

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 2>all my money. Hey, I ain't got nothing money saying

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 2>it won't you got not one even if I come

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 2>to work on time. No, that ain't nohing said it

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 2>for me. If I make weight. Nope, I don't want

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 2>that either. Nope, I don't.

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>M hm. Put it all, put it all in there. Yep.

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Give me everything I'm supposed to get. Hey, Shannon, they're

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna pay you over seventeen weeks. This is what you ay.

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 2>This is how much you make it. Okay, I'm cool

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 2>with that. But man, I've been stopped worried about that.

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh yo, comes many when they jacked me out of me,

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 2>when they jacked me out of them?

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>What you call them? Said?

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Man? Man, y'all, ain't finna make me do something bad

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>to somebody up in here. Listen, that's the game they play, now,

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 2>that's the game they play. An anonymous NBA GM called

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 2>out Adam Silver. Adam Silver is obsessed with tournaments lay

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 2>in in season, not all Star. They're they're not proven

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>to benefit our league.

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, what's your think?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the head guy saying that the tournaments trying

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<v Speaker 5>to create excitement, trying to create viewers globally as well,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's not benefiting the league. It's not benefiting the players.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it not the n Cedon tournament.

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<v Speaker 5>Isn't the n Ceding tournament allowing the players to make

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<v Speaker 5>extra money and benefit them by having it being played

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<v Speaker 5>in season.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess they're trying to drum up support because

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing, Oh, Joe Love, you got eleven You

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<v Speaker 2>got eleven what seventy seven billion over the next seven

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>eleven years, and so we got it because here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Is kind of like soccer, you man, you know, soccer

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<v Speaker 2>got all the tournament. They got you copah and this

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<v Speaker 2>one and that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, champion, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's what you know, uh adamble Commission

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 2>is trying to get a playoff that.

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<v Speaker 1>The playing tournament. I mean, people didn't like that.

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 2>People thought, look, I remember one time when the three

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 2>point competition was started.

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Gimmick, I mean the three point shot.

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 2>They're like, man, it's a gimmick right now, Look, everything

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 2>is a gimmick until you get used to it.

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>The forward pass was a gimmick, right yes, ford ps like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do? That's a game? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that ain't gonna be now. Can you imagine a

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 2>game of football without the forward pass or jo wouldn't

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 2>make no sense, It would make zero sense. So look,

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I get what I get what Commission's trying to do.

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 2>He's trying to do anything he possibly can to get

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 2>eyeballs to the television to watch these games.

0:33:58.600 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 2>And so to play in tournament, I mean to play

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 2>in tournaments are always good, you know teams like look,

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<v Speaker 2>normally one through eight you made the tournament. You know

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:11.240
<v Speaker 2>where you are. But now eight through ten you gotta

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>play what? No? No, yeah, no, seven? Ept no, what

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 2>is it? Seven play? Ten and eight nine play? And

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 2>then that winner, those two winners play each other. And

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 2>that's so whoever wins there the seventh seed and then

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the next two is the is the winner is the

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.839
<v Speaker 2>eight seed. But I get, I get what commissions trying

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>to do. I get what I really do. Ocho, Uh,

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 2>you gotta try something. I mean, you got this kind

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 2>of money at stake, you gotta try something. Yeah, I

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 2>mean the only thing that I can deal I can

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 2>deal with all of the only thing I don't like

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 2>the All Star. I don't like the All Star.

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Yeah, the format is not not what it

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>should be.

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 5>In the gym that's playing in the gym, that's complaining

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 5>about what what Adam Silver is doing.

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Why don't the gms have ideas as well? Why don't

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 2>they have ideas to continue to grow the game.

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.280
<v Speaker 5>Why don't they have ideas that they run by Silver

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 5>saying listen, I think we can do this. The players

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 5>will benefit from it, us as owners will benefit from it,

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 5>and those that are watching they'll enjoy it. Instead of

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 5>saying or non the source complaining about what Silver is

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 5>actually doing.

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, rest is so David Stern, You're like, look, y'all

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 2>going to either play or we're going to call back

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:27.760
<v Speaker 2>some of this money?

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Which one you want? Be really that simple?

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 2>You shouldn't have to beg guys to play hard, oh, Joe,

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:41.280
<v Speaker 2>if you're making one fifty two hundred three hundred million dollars.

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't really think it's asking too much. I really don't.

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Now I could be wrong. Chat and y'all might be

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 2>totally disagree. Oh the season too long, and YadA, YadA, YadA.

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I get all that.

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>The season isn't.

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Any longer than what it was the last fifty years.

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 2>How long have they been playing eighty two games forever

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 2>at a day? So this notion about all the games

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 2>will know it's not, No, it's not. These guys should

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 2>be in better shape because they have they know better,

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 2>they got better training, they got better nutrition. They got

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 2>spell supplementation, They got around the clock physios and trainers

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 2>and YadA YadA YadA. They got chefs that prepare their

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 2>food and cook whatever. So there's no excuse to play hard,

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.240
<v Speaker 2>to ask you to play harder. You making three hundred million,

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 2>O Joe, damn, I.

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Got let me get. I don't an knee. I on't

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>even need three hundred. You gave me one, Give me

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>one fifty. I would play hard.

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Give me cause you know what, on Joe, I remember

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 2>working hard when I was making five.

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 1>Dollars a day. Come on, man, talk to me.

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I remember working I remember working hard, making ten making

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 2>sixteen catching a thousand chickens, making a dollar a thousand,

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:02.359
<v Speaker 2>catch sixteen thousand chicken, sixteen dollars. I worked hard for

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 2>that little bit of money. What the hell you think

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I do for ten million? It's twenty million thirty let

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 2>alone three hundred and.

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:12.879
<v Speaker 5>If you think about it, I think if players, when

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 5>they make that kind of money, if they understood and

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 5>never forgot where you came from before you had that

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 5>kind of money, and what you did to get to

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 5>where you are. I think sometimes they lose sight of

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 5>that though they do. I really do you know money?

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 5>Money are changing now?

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>It changed. Sometimes it change you for the better, sometime

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>it change you for the worst.

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes money makes you more what you already are.

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 2>What are you? Oht your at your core? What are

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 2>you when you don't have it? Because now when you

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 2>get it, it exacerbates what you already are.

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>But that's a good one, every boy. That's why people

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:54.879
<v Speaker 1>beat up even bro.

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 2>If you got an eating problem and you on a

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 2>college budget, what happens if I give you ten, fifteen,

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty million dollars?

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, hey, but at that.

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Money, no money. Oh he changed what he got.

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 2>But know he wasn't. He was always that. He just

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 2>needed the money for y'all to see in his true self. Right,

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I saw that was changed. He's always been this he

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 2>or she. I'm not gonna say he'll just just he.

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 1>He or she?

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Ever.

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 5>Woman women as well, sometimes they ain't gotta be money.

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes it gonna be intention. Well, you know what happened

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 5>when you get that you never had it before, and

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:46.360
<v Speaker 5>he started getting from everywhere.

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 1>You get your big head.

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 5>You know, you start feeling yourself, you know, you start overvaluing.

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:54.879
<v Speaker 1>The boy.

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I've been I I get what Adam is

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:02.799
<v Speaker 2>trying to do. Adam is trying to grow the game,

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 2>trying to because you know, soccer have these in season

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 2>tournaments and all this stuff. We saw what hockey just

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 2>had the what is that called the something for making

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 2>for nations or something.

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>What they call it was spilling Sweden, Sweden and the US. Yeah.

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 2>See, but one thing hockey, hockey. They be playing hard.

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>They've had it once. Once you touch that ice, you

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 2>strap up, you strap up. They they they they listen,

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 2>you know what time it is? I think, Oh, Joe,

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 2>I think, I think a lot. I think the difference

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Adam Adam and the players. He viewsed the players as

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:53.280
<v Speaker 2>players as partners. Right, they start me in that partner.

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm partner. I'm partner with the the owners. We partners.

0:39:56.800 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. You'll employees, right, just like the NFL.

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>The partners are the broadcast networks in the NFL, the

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 2>employees are the players players, right, And they don't let you.

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:16.840
<v Speaker 1>They don't let you forget it as such. Uh and

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 1>if you do forget, they will remind you. They remind you.

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 1>He remind you, They remind you.

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they definitely remind Yojoe.

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 1>The legendary LG, the original l G. Now we got

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 1>a little l G.

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Ladadias by Dog wants Michael Parsons to stop podcasting and

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 2>put his focus on football. He's a great player, but guys,

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 2>let's do more. Let's play more football less podcast. Michael

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 2>in particular, he'll have a movie, an action movie, The

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 2>brother Got It, but don't forget where you are at.

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Listen.

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 5>I like LT and anything coming from one of the greatest,

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 5>if not the greatest, of all time, especially on the

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 5>deepensive end.

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.959
<v Speaker 1>And he's talking about of one of the greats right now.

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 5>I agree, but I kind of disagree, especially with the

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:16.800
<v Speaker 5>times that we're in right now. Michael Parsons, he plays

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 5>really well. He plays at a very high level along

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 5>with his podcast. The podcast doesn't take anything away from

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 5>him on the actual football field.

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Between the lines.

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 5>When the whistleblows, you know what you're getting with he left.

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 5>You know what you getting from every time.

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Now when you look at them defensively, you'll say, well,

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 2>they got some weak spots.

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, Michael only played in one spot. He can't be everywhere.

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 7>Sometimes he's stretched lines sometimes, you know, sometimes they go

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 7>down in the three. Sometimes they got him sit down

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 7>there and sitting down there in the box at a

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 7>linebacker position, moving around trying to find ways because he's

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:52.760
<v Speaker 7>good in space.

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Real will stop lying all that part. Oh, were gonna

0:41:58.719 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 2>have it. We're gonna have it. We're gonna have a

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Ravens defense. We're gonna have a Sea Offs defense. But

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 2>he's supposed to say that.

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, you don't. You ain't got to say nothing.

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Keep your mind shut on your No, you don't.

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 2>You've got to stop telling these guys they got to

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 2>say something.

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>They did. But you have to believe in your team

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and who who you playing? Yourself? So how did okay,

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>he says what he said? Okay, we're gonna win. When

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>he don't win, how to make him look Ojo? Well,

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 1>it make him look crazy. But you know, you know,

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>can I say something real quick?

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 5>Yes? And say he say something crazy all the time, right, Michael,

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 5>Michael Parson's been talking crazy all season? It's you know

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 5>this season when the Cowboys do play, you know, you

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 5>know who do show up? What's off in the passing game?

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 2>What about when they get the ball run down the throat?

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 5>Hey, you know they run away from you, mam, They.

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Ran away from LT. What do you do You're right

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>away from Reggie. Yeah, right, you're right. Listen, I mean listen,

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean l T. Has I understand we're in the time.

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>We're in a different era. You know.

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Some guys they like to talk about the game of

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 2>talk about the game of football after it's being played.

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 5>They focus on it when they're at it, but in

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 5>they're off time, they have podcasts. That's just where we

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 5>are right now. Are things going to change if he

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 5>stopped doing this podcast and all of a sudden he

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.840
<v Speaker 5>can I mean no, Michael Parsons is a player that

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 5>he is. He's one of the great ones in the

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 5>NFL right now at what he does, and it's just

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 5>it just it's just it is what it is. I like,

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 5>I like his opinions.

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Tan got a podcast that that's not that's got a

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 2>podcast that's not him. Defends Player of the Year, but

0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:41.439
<v Speaker 2>that's not him. You're you're you're calling there, let me finish.

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 5>You call the names that are good at what they

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 5>do at their pacific positions, but that's not what they

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 5>want to do.

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Michael Parson wants to have a podcast because he likes

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:48.879
<v Speaker 1>to talk.

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Some guys want to win if some guys want to beat,

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 2>some guys want to be famous and promote themselves. Now

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 2>which one you want to be? Because see, the quickest

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 2>way to brand, to build a brand, is to win.

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan brand, what is it? Matthew Johnson brand?

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>What is it? Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes? What

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 1>was that?

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Joe Montana? What were their brands based on? Joe Lebron,

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:25.839
<v Speaker 2>James Steph Curry. Hey, you heard everybody is name, You

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 2>heard everybody's his name?

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>They were ball dominant and were in control of those

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 5>wins and losses. You talked about the defense that you

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 5>talk about the defensive player, you talk about the defense

0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 5>end that can change the trajectory of a game. But

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 5>had nothing to do with wins and losses. Oh but

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.439
<v Speaker 5>he definitely does did so? Lt didn't impact the game?

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, we know that, we know. Okay, what

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 1>about ray Lewis? Did he impact the game? Of course?

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 1>What about Prime? I gay, y'all care? What about Prime?

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 1>How was Prime? How was Prime's brand? What did that?

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>You say that, yeah, he.

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:05.799
<v Speaker 5>Could impact the game, though, because you know Michael Parsons

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 5>don't impact the game.

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm just asking you oh, I know a lot of

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:11.360
<v Speaker 2>guys to impact the game.

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 1>We just you You do realize we ain't talking about

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 1>no slous now we talk about no.

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:18.879
<v Speaker 2>But there's been a lot of guys to impact the game.

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 2>There have been guys that impact the game less, but

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 2>one more. Ain't got a bigger plan for Come what

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying this is the team game.

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I just I just wanted to just say to remember

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that now.

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.840
<v Speaker 2>All the game the team you mentioned Prime, do you

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 2>see what team Prime was playing for?

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you see what else was around him while he

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:40.720
<v Speaker 1>was doing what he was doing?

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Guess what they went and got Prime? Jeffery Cisco said,

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what, we can't beat Dallas. We gotta go

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 2>get pride. They ain't got pride. What did the Cowboys do?

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Go get it back?

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Yeah, it ain't that complicated, though, Joe.

0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:59.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm just look, I'm with.

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.239
<v Speaker 1>You, mean you right, I'm I'm with you? Are you right?

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:04.320
<v Speaker 1>But also we're in a different time right now, different

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>we are.

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I think the thing, Oh, Joe, I think the thing

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:09.840
<v Speaker 2>is it's like, look, Michael wants to have a career

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 2>after football, and it seems to be he wants it

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 2>to be on the media side, no problem whatsoever. And

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I think what he's doing, he's starting out because I

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 2>had I had, I had a radio show when I

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 2>was in when I was in Denver started I think

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:30.799
<v Speaker 2>I started in like ninety six. My got Don Martin.

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I know you watching the show. He was at I

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:34.879
<v Speaker 2>Heeart Radio for a number of years.

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Don is still there, but he

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:39.359
<v Speaker 2>was my producer. So Don and I we go way back,

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 2>and so I kind of like, I really didn't know

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:45.360
<v Speaker 2>what what I'm gonna do, but I'm like, hey, they like,

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>would you like to do a radio show? Like, yeah,

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 2>how much y'all playing? He wasn't paying a whole lot

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 2>o shoe, but it gave him an opportunity to talk.

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 2>When they asked me to, you know, come in to

0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 2>do the local news, I held, I do that, but

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 2>all right, and so I knew I would go I

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:04.240
<v Speaker 2>could do something in the media.

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I was always very candid, very straightforward.

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think they're they're ever a doubt that

0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 2>anybody that ever been with me. Ask my teammates. Football

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 2>was at the frowfront. Anything that interfered with that wasn't

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. So my my radio show show was I

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:26.879
<v Speaker 2>would take it after Friday's practice, go in there, hit

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 2>that thing for about twenty five minutes.

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm done. I'm done. That's that's it for me.

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh. It had been very interesting old show. And Peter,

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten asked this question. If you were playing in today,

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 2>would you have a podcast?

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't.

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, I'm too I can't. I have a singular focus.

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm only I've only been good at a handful of things,

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.840
<v Speaker 2>but not never simultaneously.

0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 1>M hm. That's why I'm not married.

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 2>I was either I was good at football and a

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:07.439
<v Speaker 2>terrible boyfriend. Either I was a great boyfriend, I would

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 2>be terrible at football. So guess what you want. I

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:13.839
<v Speaker 2>had to go, Hey, hey, Brack, but you talking now,

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:17.319
<v Speaker 2>hear me. I'm just being I'm just. I'm just, I.

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Just, I just.

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm just honest, O, Joe, I'm just honest. And that's why.

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 2>So I have a singular focus. If you notice, when

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm good at something, i'm great at it because I'm

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 2>all in. Ain't no he ain't no handling gretel. I

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:34.840
<v Speaker 2>don't save no broid crumb for the trip home, won't, Joe.

0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm lost, right, I'm lost, don't, Yoe. I ain't got

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 2>no navigation on how to get back. All I know

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:44.279
<v Speaker 2>is is once straight ahead, I'm going. We're going that way.

0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get people to be with me that believe

0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:51.480
<v Speaker 2>in I believe in the vision, and we're gonna go

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 2>get it done. Yes, hum, But that's just me, Like

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:56.799
<v Speaker 2>I said, I think, see, the biggest mistake that we

0:48:56.880 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 2>make is that we try to see ourselves than other people. Right,

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.960
<v Speaker 2>that's my biggest mistake. That's my biggest mistake.

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:06.319
<v Speaker 1>It is.

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 2>And and I'm i gotta talk because I think I

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 2>can say I owe yo, honestly, I think I.

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Can save everybody. And you know, hey, hey man, can

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you do sure? No problem? Call Shelley, Hey man, we

0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 1>got this, Paul Shelley.

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:27.920
<v Speaker 2>And you know, if twenty five, here's fifty thousand, there's

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:32.279
<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand here and and and and my, my, my, my,

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Marvin Marvin done my who's my agent and he's been

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:37.000
<v Speaker 2>my right hand man for twenty nine years.

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, he said, you got to stop this.

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said, he said, I understand, He said, I

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 2>understand you better than most right, I'm an eighty three

0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 2>I think, he said, eighty three eighty four year old

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:59.080
<v Speaker 2>George guy. He said, but I know you, And he said,

0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 2>but you got to stop this year. He said, you

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 2>can't save everybody. He said, you got too bad. You

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 2>said you got too big of a heart.

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:10.839
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, saying I learned that quick and most and most

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 5>of the time, you know that I learned quick. No

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 5>matter how much you do, sometimes they forget about the

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 5>first time you say no, every bad I just they

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 5>forget about it. They forget about all the time you

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:27.319
<v Speaker 5>say yes. And I think that's mine, always trying to

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 5>save a feeling I can, I can come in and

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:32.479
<v Speaker 5>put my cap on, or I got you. Don't worry

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:36.799
<v Speaker 5>about it. I got you. And every time on the

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:42.839
<v Speaker 5>back end, you end up regretting it. Every time, I oh, Joe,

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:47.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't regret it.

0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean a lot of times I give I give

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:52.479
<v Speaker 2>the charities, but a lot of times but I give it.

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:53.840
<v Speaker 1>But like I said, on you, I give it.

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I give with I don't have any expectations, right, get

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 2>anything back?

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Right? Right?

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Nothing, absolutely nothing. And Shelley called me the other day

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 2>and says, uh, I said, what's up? Well, you need

0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 2>to stop getting away so much money. Yeah, I said, Shelley,

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 2>you called out of the blue with that. She's like, yeah,

0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 2>so okay. And then I don't know if she talked

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 2>to Marvin or Marvin called her, but he had the

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 2>conversation with me today. So I'm done. I can't help everybody,

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, I'm done trying. Yeah, I'm done. I'm done.

0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:46.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm done. Yeah.

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Another because I.

0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Don't have federal government capabilities, I can't just print money

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 2>to stimulate the economy. I gotta make my money. I'm

0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:58.880
<v Speaker 2>talking about it, literally, make my money old fashionable. I

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:04.319
<v Speaker 2>can't go print it. Brian, I'm good. I'm done, So

0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:13.240
<v Speaker 2>don't ask. The answer is no. Moving forward, what's today, it's.

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:16.160
<v Speaker 1>A twenty eight to nineteen February nineteen. Now it's a twenty.

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 1>It's the twenty.

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Where you are, so if you were, if you if

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:22.640
<v Speaker 2>you were in the Eastern time zone, no, if you're

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:25.680
<v Speaker 2>in the Western, if you're the Pacific time zone. In

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 2>an hour and forty minute, the answer will be no.

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:31.719
<v Speaker 2>If my fathers going about to be off, so don't

0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:36.320
<v Speaker 2>call me. No, hell no, oh Joe. The Cowboys overhauled

0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:39.280
<v Speaker 2>their coaching staff this offseason, party ways with Mike McCarthy

0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:43.240
<v Speaker 2>and promoting O C. Brian Schottenneimer. The Cowboys hired Arizona

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Carter's officsive line coach Clayton Adams for the open OC roll.

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:49.799
<v Speaker 2>Here's what Adam wants to see in the offense, the

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:52.160
<v Speaker 2>same thing I want to see, the same thing I

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 2>want from every player on offense, and that is to

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 2>create violence in the game. Be aggressive, run, hit. I

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 2>think every decision that we made schematically needs to lean

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 2>into that direction. So if there's a gray area, what

0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:07.479
<v Speaker 2>is going to allow these guys to play more free

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:11.839
<v Speaker 2>and run and hit and be violent. Oh Joe, do

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you think the Cowboys will be able to create a

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 2>violent offense next year?

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean no, Violence always starts at the forefront, right

0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:22.719
<v Speaker 5>up front. It starts in the trenches. That's where the

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:25.680
<v Speaker 5>violence needs to come from. That's where the violet needs

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:28.400
<v Speaker 5>to come from. It starts with the front, the front five.

0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 5>They got to set the tone. That's where it comes from.

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:35.319
<v Speaker 5>Everything else is built off what that offensive line does,

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:38.880
<v Speaker 5>So that's where that's where it comes in at.

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 1>So how is the offensive line going to be?

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Because everything he just reiterated everything he just said, is

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 2>not going to be possible unless it's exactly like I'm

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:52.440
<v Speaker 2>just gonna throw I'm just gonna throw it out there,

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:58.920
<v Speaker 2>like the Eagles, m like the Ravens.

0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:01.680
<v Speaker 1>You're right, that's it.

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Everything you want to do, whatever you set your eyes to,

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:11.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever you come into the off season or into the

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:13.720
<v Speaker 2>season saying you want to do offensively, it all starts

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 2>with your officers line.

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:20.360
<v Speaker 1>If you ain't got that and they ain't got that, mentality, no,

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:21.440
<v Speaker 1>it ain't.

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:26.479
<v Speaker 2>Front the back, o yoe. You build front the back,

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 2>old line back, d line back. Yeah you say that,

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:36.279
<v Speaker 2>but that's a mentality. You got it, But it's I mean,

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I take my head off the teams like the Eagles,

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.319
<v Speaker 2>who I don't know how much they hit, but they've

0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 2>taken a lot of the physicality out of it.

0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh your cause, you can't practice like that.

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Where's the practice we had nine on sevene Hey we're

0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 2>putting you know, we're putting pads on people.

0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's hard.

0:54:57.160 --> 0:54:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Can you you go out there and you do and

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:00.719
<v Speaker 2>walk through them all of a sudden, Hey turn it up?

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Turn what up?

0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:06.919
<v Speaker 2>But it was a mindset, Oh we about you about

0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 2>to Hey, hey we moved a man against his will.

0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Will think about that chat, think about what you say.

0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:18.319
<v Speaker 2>You said, so, hey, get off my porch. I ain't

0:55:18.360 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 2>going nowhere the hell you say you're fin the lead

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 2>here and you do that over and over, O Joe,

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:33.319
<v Speaker 2>you gotta quit. Somebody quit today, and that's what Jack quit.

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:37.040
<v Speaker 5>By the time you get to the fourth quarter, they

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 5>gonna quit, they gonna fold.

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:39.879
<v Speaker 1>I ain't.

0:55:39.920 --> 0:55:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I ain't quitting. Yeah, for sure. I gotta make you

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:53.480
<v Speaker 2>turn it down because see, I know how you run. Okay,

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 2>cause back you know, back when we played, O Joe,

0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:56.560
<v Speaker 2>we rolled your ass up.

0:55:57.280 --> 0:55:57.880
<v Speaker 1>We were cutting.

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:01.279
<v Speaker 2>And I know you're getting up quick at the first quarter. Oh,

0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:03.839
<v Speaker 2>hold Joe, they get a quick, Oh yeah, getting up.

0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Hey. Hey, I'm still making.

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:10.560
<v Speaker 2>The players okay, okay, John top second, Hey the second quarter,

0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 2>old Joe, Hey, I'm still here sharp. Third quarter, bastay

0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:19.640
<v Speaker 2>on my knees. Fourth quarter, he ain't nowhere to be

0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:26.120
<v Speaker 2>ain't nowhere to be seen. But you got the It's

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.600
<v Speaker 2>easy to talk about something, O Joe. It's a lot

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 2>more difficult to do it.

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The coaches.

0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 5>The coach could talk on the world to the coach

0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 5>can talk, he can he can talk, so he turned

0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 5>blue in the face. But unless you have the personnel

0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:43.319
<v Speaker 5>and the players that have the mentality that you're regurgitating.

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:46.080
<v Speaker 6>The mentality that you talk about, man, that ain't they ain't.

0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:50.360
<v Speaker 6>You ain't talking about nothing. You ain't talking about nothing.

0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:54.319
<v Speaker 6>What you have is what you have right now. You

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:55.319
<v Speaker 6>can say whatever you want.

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:58.160
<v Speaker 5>You know your team, you know your personnel, So you

0:56:58.160 --> 0:56:59.759
<v Speaker 5>gotta be careful what you said with your ass for

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.520
<v Speaker 5>because they're not built like that all of a sudden.

0:57:02.560 --> 0:57:04.399
<v Speaker 5>Just because you have an off season don't mean they're

0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:06.080
<v Speaker 5>coming back completely different next year.

0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 1>You are who you are, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Zach Martin has been in Wars and he's been

0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:14.320
<v Speaker 2>in one of the premier guards. He's one of the

0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 2>best guards that ever played this game. But he's had

0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of He got a lot of miles on

0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:22.240
<v Speaker 2>that body. Ojoe, he's not the same guy. Yeah, you know,

0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Tyron Smith had a lot of miles on his body.

0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:25.240
<v Speaker 1>They let him go.

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 2>H Still, they they they started to suffer when Travis

0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Frederick had to retire prematurely mm hm.

0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:37.080
<v Speaker 1>And they got guys now they're not they're not built

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:39.640
<v Speaker 1>like that. They not built like that. They can't run

0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the football.

0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:42.920
<v Speaker 2>See you and you how you know you violent when

0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you can run the football. Yeah, that's where violence come

0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:48.800
<v Speaker 2>in at absolutely look at it.

0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:52.040
<v Speaker 1>He look at teams that can run the football. They're

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:53.120
<v Speaker 1>in a violent group.

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:56.520
<v Speaker 5>Notice when I talked about offenser lines, the first thing

0:57:56.560 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 5>I said was Eagles, and I said Ravens. Yeah, everybody

0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 5>against the will when they playing getting Royd and not

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:08.400
<v Speaker 5>changing nothing regards to who they play.

0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Detroit is another one. Oh yeah, Oh, I forgot to

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 1>put the sulin and boys.

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 2>They don't they don't play no. So it's interesting. I'm

0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:21.960
<v Speaker 2>asked to see what they do. I'm gonna see if

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be able to run the football down. Dell

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Is ric o'donald is a is a free agent. We

0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:31.720
<v Speaker 2>don't see what they're gonna do an they running back

0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:35.400
<v Speaker 2>position right, well, you know Zeke won't be back because

0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:38.840
<v Speaker 2>they already let Zeke go. So now do they go

0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:41.240
<v Speaker 2>into the draft. Do they get genty? I think they

0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:45.280
<v Speaker 2>picked twelve thirteen. Will genty be available that that'd be

0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:48.800
<v Speaker 2>a good one. Uh what running back? What running back

0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:52.320
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be available? Aaron Jones with Minnesota, they pushed this,

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:56.480
<v Speaker 2>they pushed this. His date back, okay, could he become available.

0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:59.160
<v Speaker 2>It seems like they want to get something long term done,

0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:01.760
<v Speaker 2>get him again a couple of years. So it's gonna

0:59:01.800 --> 0:59:04.680
<v Speaker 2>be very very interesting to see what the Cowboys do

0:59:04.720 --> 0:59:07.800
<v Speaker 2>at running back position, and free agency will probably kind

0:59:07.800 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 2>of give you an indicational kind of direction that gonna

0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:14.200
<v Speaker 2>go with in the draft. Oh Joe AJ Brown brought

0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:16.800
<v Speaker 2>a life sized mannequin to put his unwashed Super Bowl

0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:21.160
<v Speaker 2>jersey on display in their home. AJ's longtime girlfriend posted

0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 2>a picture on Instagram.

0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 1>That's live.

0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:26.360
<v Speaker 2>H point of view, Your boyfriend bouys a sixty two

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:29.160
<v Speaker 2>mannek had to put his game one Super Bowl un

0:59:29.160 --> 0:59:29.680
<v Speaker 2>and four more.

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:34.120
<v Speaker 1>He indeed did not watch it. No, you can't watch it.

0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Don't do that. That's live man, that's dope. That's that

0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 1>has to be one of the greatest feelings.

0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:41.920
<v Speaker 5>And obviously coming from someone who never won the Super Bowl,

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:44.160
<v Speaker 5>played in one, but never won one, that's something I

0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:44.480
<v Speaker 5>would do.

0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:45.800
<v Speaker 1>That's something I would do.

0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 5>And you see for that moment and to be able

0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:50.760
<v Speaker 5>to have it in your house man hanging up like

0:59:50.800 --> 0:59:53.960
<v Speaker 5>that on the man again, full display mouthpiece and all.

0:59:54.040 --> 0:59:57.120
<v Speaker 5>You don't see the mouthpiece he got the mouthpiece on

0:59:57.160 --> 0:59:58.040
<v Speaker 5>helmety and everything.

0:59:58.240 --> 1:00:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's live, that's live.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wouldn't have wouldn't have stuff where your super

1:00:06.200 --> 1:00:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Bowl stuff at on the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, on the wall. That's dope.

1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:13.360
<v Speaker 1>That's dope.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know somebody because you know they make

1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:20.520
<v Speaker 2>it to jerseys and Baltimore. They gave me both of

1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:24.240
<v Speaker 2>my jersey. Somebody got somebody never got got about thirty

1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:28.360
<v Speaker 2>two and thirty three extra jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, let me use the bathroom quick. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But I like that. Got a shoe and everything on

1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:45.680
<v Speaker 2>the mannekeut damn man jay uh I I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the pants that I ain't Fenn lie and tell

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<v Speaker 2>you now about the pants.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I got the jersey. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave the super Bowl helmet. I think Darryl Green

1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:58.160
<v Speaker 2>got my super Bowl helmet cause I traded with him.

1:00:58.600 --> 1:01:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm almost certain Derel Green got a super Bowl helmet.

1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:05.040
<v Speaker 2>I got my Super Bowl Raven's helmet. It's funny that

1:01:05.080 --> 1:01:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I traded. I remember going to the super Bowl. I

1:01:07.520 --> 1:01:11.280
<v Speaker 2>went to the Pro Bowl. I traded Pro Bowl helmets.

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<v Speaker 4>One.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was with Denver. I traded Pro Bowl heal

1:01:14.040 --> 1:01:18.200
<v Speaker 2>with Jonathan Augdor. I got that that original h. I

1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:22.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know Chad who a Ravens fan, but y'all it

1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:25.080
<v Speaker 2>was like a wing or something, but it was it

1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:28.480
<v Speaker 2>was kind of ugly. But Jao I traded with jo

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<v Speaker 2>He and I had the same agent. He was with

1:01:30.920 --> 1:01:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Marvin dem Off as well. So but yeah, I still

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<v Speaker 2>got Obviously my jerseys are hanging up. I got one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell when I know for sure, I don't know about

1:01:45.400 --> 1:01:46.920
<v Speaker 2>the pants. I don't know what the pants are here?

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody I mean, I mean, the thing was it was

1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:55.880
<v Speaker 2>like the thing was the jersey chore. Nobody even thought

1:01:55.880 --> 1:01:58.520
<v Speaker 2>that jersey and the helmet wasn't nobody thinking about no no,

1:01:58.520 --> 1:01:59.240
<v Speaker 2>no pants?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what about your cliches, because you know you're cleasing

1:02:02.200 --> 1:02:06.240
<v Speaker 5>sometimes you're cleasing me a special pair, you know, especially

1:02:06.320 --> 1:02:11.160
<v Speaker 5>now it's somebody got him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm trying to think because like when I played

1:02:14.880 --> 1:02:19.320
<v Speaker 2>like my last couple of years, uh, Nike, maybe Pat Levitcley,

1:02:19.480 --> 1:02:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I remember the time. You know, you had to really

1:02:21.040 --> 1:02:25.120
<v Speaker 2>be somebody to get get a cleak. Not everybody got

1:02:25.120 --> 1:02:28.280
<v Speaker 2>a cleat. Hey, who who are the greatest heat today.

1:02:28.600 --> 1:02:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I was like, dude on special teams and he's been

1:02:30.400 --> 1:02:33.640
<v Speaker 2>to tell me he got your right. How you run

1:02:33.680 --> 1:02:36.160
<v Speaker 2>down on special team and you got Pat Leather Georgans, O, Joe,

1:02:37.000 --> 1:02:38.760
<v Speaker 2>you look good good.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're on special team.

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<v Speaker 2>You get some get some some three quarters and going

1:02:45.920 --> 1:02:46.880
<v Speaker 2>out there and met the tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need no little talk, low top cleave Pat Leather. Uh.

1:02:51.280 --> 1:02:53.360
<v Speaker 2>But I was like I was playing the shoot and

1:02:53.360 --> 1:02:55.160
<v Speaker 2>then I was practicing, and I end up giving to

1:02:55.240 --> 1:02:55.760
<v Speaker 2>a teammate.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Where your Super Bowl jer is at?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>At my grandma house. At my grandma house. My little brother,

1:03:08.840 --> 1:03:12.280
<v Speaker 5>my little brother. He got most of my memorabilia. A

1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:15.640
<v Speaker 5>very good friend of mine at Cincinnati. When I left Cincinnati,

1:03:16.320 --> 1:03:17.120
<v Speaker 5>he has most.

1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Of my memorabilia. It's just I don't I don't know

1:03:19.560 --> 1:03:20.080
<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with me.

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<v Speaker 5>Once I stopped playing the game of football, I didn't

1:03:22.440 --> 1:03:24.440
<v Speaker 5>really care about memorabilia. I don't I don't have I

1:03:24.440 --> 1:03:27.480
<v Speaker 5>don't really have anything. I don't have anything. Friends of

1:03:27.480 --> 1:03:30.520
<v Speaker 5>mine kind of keep everything. And once I removed myself

1:03:30.520 --> 1:03:32.640
<v Speaker 5>from the game, it wasn't playing it anymore, and I

1:03:32.680 --> 1:03:33.200
<v Speaker 5>was at peace.

1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I just let I let everything disperse. Those that know me,

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<v Speaker 1>the volume