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Speaker 2: Supplies are limited. Once they're gone, they're gone. The Hornets
Speaker 2: to come to La beat the Lakers. It was a
Speaker 2: rescheduled game. Remember they were supposed to play earlier in
Speaker 2: the year, but the Palisade fires forced this cancelation, so
Speaker 2: this was the makeup game. The only game on the
Speaker 2: dock at tonight, and the Hornets come into La and
Speaker 2: They win thanks to twenty nine points from Mile Bridges
Speaker 2: twenty seven points from LaMelo Ball who hit the floater
Speaker 2: that really iced the ball game. Lebron misses threes at
Speaker 2: the buzzer, but the Hornets win one hundred and ninety seven.
Speaker 2: Roy mister Cupler freed refree throws and Austin Reeves got
Speaker 2: kicked out. He felt he got filed filed by Yusuf
Speaker 2: Nurkic and it was his first career ejection and the
Speaker 2: Lakers lose to the Hornets, which was inexcusable. No matter
Speaker 2: what happened with Austar Reeves, when you got Luca and
Speaker 2: you got Lebron, you still should have enough to win
Speaker 2: the ball game.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately they did not win.
Speaker 2: Lebron scored sixteen in the fourth quarter, but it was
Speaker 2: not enough, as the Hornets come to La and win
Speaker 2: the game by the score of one hundred to ninety seven.
Speaker 1: Oh joke, Yeah, what do you think? Hey?
Speaker 5: Listen, First off, I'm gonna skip right, I'm gonna skip
Speaker 5: the beginning of the book, and I'm gonna go to
Speaker 5: the last page of the book.
Speaker 1: Boy.
Speaker 5: The last three minutes of that game, uh, the last
Speaker 5: three minutes of that game, LaMelo Lebron, LaMelo Miles bridges Lebron.
Speaker 5: But anyway, the first half very rusty. Definitely, you could
Speaker 5: tell they coming off an All Star break from both teams.
Speaker 5: Luke and Lebron early on in the game showed shade
Speaker 5: and what they could have been with those two have been.
Speaker 1: Could it can be?
Speaker 5: Actually, you know those with those fast, great points scores
Speaker 5: early in the game. Outside of that, it always comes
Speaker 5: down to Rui at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: You gotta hit those three throws. You got to hit
Speaker 1: those free throws to.
Speaker 5: Give your team a chance to put your team in
Speaker 5: position to win the game where it doesn't come to
Speaker 5: Lebron having to make one of those last three point
Speaker 5: threes at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking at you right. It's gonna take some
Speaker 1: getting you.
Speaker 2: It's gonna take some getting used to Lebron and Luca
Speaker 2: playing together. You know, both guys are at their best
Speaker 2: when they have the ball in their hands. And unfortunately
Speaker 2: there's only one basketball and there's two of those great players,
Speaker 2: and so it seems like, you know, nobody wants to
Speaker 2: step on anybody's toes o Joe, Okay, Hey, Luca you're
Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna handle it, and you do what you do, Lebron,
Speaker 2: You do what you do. But it's gonna take a while,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if they're gonna have enough time,
Speaker 2: you know, enough time to figure it out during this season.
Speaker 2: But hopefully in the off season next year they can
Speaker 2: get it together. But if you watch the last two minutes,
Speaker 2: the last two or a half minutes of this ball
Speaker 2: game the morning is all they did. All they did
Speaker 2: was put Luke in pick and roll, m Melo ball.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. They tried, they tried to hedge it.
Speaker 2: They try to Doublin LaMelo give the ball up, he
Speaker 2: go get it back and he brings Luca guy again.
Speaker 2: They put him in the pick and roll, and they
Speaker 2: got a white. They got a couple of wide open threes,
Speaker 2: and then LaMelo split. They ended up taking Luca out.
Speaker 2: They brought Vanderbilt in, but that makes him really small,
Speaker 2: so now they got no remp protection. Lamello splits, it
Speaker 2: gets down. Here's the floater, and basically that was the
Speaker 2: four point lead that they needed. Lebron ends up hitting
Speaker 2: a big three, but they have to file. They go
Speaker 2: make both free throws and then Lebron miss two threes
Speaker 2: at the end. But Luca's gonna have to get better
Speaker 2: in the picking roll. They're gonna have to do a
Speaker 2: better job. They seem to be in control of this
Speaker 2: ball game. And then I think they allow the Hornets
Speaker 2: to go on twenty to something, twenty one, twenty two
Speaker 2: to one run.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I that can't happen, right, I got a Christian
Speaker 5: for you too, now, yeah, you speaking. Both players, Lebron
Speaker 5: and Luca both are comfortable liking to be on the ball.
Speaker 5: Luca tonight, to me look very uncomfortable out there. He's
Speaker 5: not used to playing with that, He's not used to
Speaker 5: playing without the ball in his hand.
Speaker 1: At the ball.
Speaker 5: So how long does it take or does Lebron understand
Speaker 5: that Luca likes to be on the ball. He's much
Speaker 5: more comfortable on the ball, playing in rhythm like that,
Speaker 5: especially in transition.
Speaker 2: Well, Lebron, Lebron doesn't have a problem. Lebron is better
Speaker 2: at playing off the ball than Luca. Although Lebron plays
Speaker 2: better with the ball in his hand, but he's still
Speaker 2: more comfortable than Luca playing off the ball. But at
Speaker 2: the end of the at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: O Jo, they we're gonna have to figure this out,
Speaker 2: and Lebron is like, okay, y'all, do y'all thing, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden the game starts getting out
Speaker 2: of hand. Lebron's a f desk, give me the ball,
Speaker 2: got it?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it comes down to, A f dik, y'all.
Speaker 1: I done.
Speaker 2: Gave y'all enough opportunities. But that third quarter is what
Speaker 2: doomed them and the Lakers that kind of been there
Speaker 2: buggaboo the last four or five years. The third quarter
Speaker 2: they come out flat. They had what eight point lead,
Speaker 2: I think a seven eight point lead going into the half,
Speaker 2: and then they got get outscored thirty two to eighteen
Speaker 2: in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 2: JJ is gonna have to do a better job of
Speaker 2: getting those.
Speaker 1: Guys fired up.
Speaker 2: They can't come out their lackadaisical bullgea a round because
Speaker 2: the next thing, you know, a thirteen point lead. They
Speaker 2: have a thirteen point lead, O joe in that third quarter,
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden they end up going
Speaker 2: basically they getting up going down in the third. Start
Speaker 2: the fourth they're down up, you know, up seven, had
Speaker 2: a lead as many as thirteen and now you go
Speaker 2: down because you get outscored thirty to thirty, two to fourteen.
Speaker 1: It's face farned. Listen, the game of basketball, list is
Speaker 1: a game of run.
Speaker 5: It's a game of run most of the time when
Speaker 5: those runs actually do happen, do you want to keep
Speaker 5: it as close as you can. You want to keep
Speaker 5: it as close as you can. But sometimes, listen, it
Speaker 5: gets away from you. It gets away from you, especially
Speaker 5: if you don't have a bench that can that can
Speaker 5: score consistently and give you and give you buckets when
Speaker 5: your starters aren't in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Luca's rusty right now, Oh Joe, you can
Speaker 2: tell he's rusty. Five of eighteen, one of nine from
Speaker 2: the three, he's averaging what fourteen to fifteen points a game.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever seen Luke a play
Speaker 2: a stretch where he's averaged fifteen points a game.
Speaker 1: He do to have one of those.
Speaker 2: Games where he goes for thirty five, forty, ten or eleven.
Speaker 1: He do one of those games.
Speaker 2: Austin reeves getting kicked out didn't help because you know Austin, well,
Speaker 2: they got three guys that can really go get their
Speaker 2: own shot. Lebron Luca and Austin Reeves. Everybody else is dependent.
Speaker 2: Give me, give me a put me in a situation,
Speaker 2: run a ball screen for me, skip past, you know,
Speaker 2: hammer passed, do something, pin down. Those three guys can
Speaker 2: go get their own shot. Okay, Lucas struggling, he's rusty.
Speaker 2: Really the only guy that could that that's playing with
Speaker 2: playing decent. And Lebron didn't have it going early. It
Speaker 2: was like he's just letting it go. Because if you
Speaker 2: look at Lebron, what did Lebron have in the light,
Speaker 2: I think he had ten and a half.
Speaker 1: I don't even know.
Speaker 5: If he scored in the third quarter, right, and and
Speaker 5: so you know, it's so funny on how Lebron could
Speaker 5: pick and choose when to turn it on, and when
Speaker 5: he turns it on, he's efficient when he wants to
Speaker 5: take a game over and say you know what, like
Speaker 5: you like you said and that that that fourth quarter,
Speaker 5: I think had sixteen in the fourth quarter, yep, and saying.
Speaker 1: You know what, I got this this is ridiculous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then they did.
Speaker 2: Then they get they get lax on defense, leave wide
Speaker 2: open threes. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's that's the problem
Speaker 2: is always going to be their problem.
Speaker 1: They really don't have win protection. I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Look, I understand they needed a big, but it's hard
Speaker 2: for me to believe that Alex Linn is a better
Speaker 2: big right now.
Speaker 1: Even at DWIGHTE.
Speaker 2: Howard age of thirty nine, It's hard for me to
Speaker 2: believe Alex Lynn. I'm not saying. I'm not saying Dwight
Speaker 2: Howard is Orlando Dwight Howard. I'm not saying he's Houston
Speaker 2: Rocket dwhite Howard. You that, yeah, he might, but I
Speaker 2: have just think about this, even though what you're saying
Speaker 2: about Dwight how being better at his age, has it
Speaker 2: ever been a scenario where a player who hasn't played
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how long it's been sing dwhite House
Speaker 2: been out the league.
Speaker 5: Has there ever been in a scenario like this where
Speaker 5: a certain positions need maybe be big, maybe forward, maybe
Speaker 5: be a point guard that hasn't played in a while,
Speaker 5: and he's come back despite his eighties because he's better.
Speaker 1: Than what you have on your bench. Now.
Speaker 2: It's hard when guys start, you know, start missing a year,
Speaker 2: two years, you know, I think the last time I'm
Speaker 2: trying to figure when the last time the White played. Well, hell,
Speaker 2: he's up for the Hall of Fame. So it's been
Speaker 2: a minute. Yeah, I mean, real talk, it's been a minute.
Speaker 2: But they don't they don't really have any they don't.
Speaker 1: Have any depth. Yeah, they miss a D.
Speaker 2: But you tell me, you tell me if a what
Speaker 2: team ad on and somebody says they offer you Luca
Speaker 2: Dantet that you're not gonna move it. Y'all think it
Speaker 2: seems like the Lakers, like the Lakers blew this. You're
Speaker 2: talking a guy that's twenty five, that's that's six years younger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's injury.
Speaker 2: Forget forget Luca being nicked at the start of this season,
Speaker 2: missing all the games that he's missed. I think this
Speaker 2: is the first time he's gonna play fewer than sixty
Speaker 2: games in his NBA career. But y'all talk about y'all
Speaker 2: call the street close, y'all call it always dean, y'all
Speaker 2: call now all of a sudden, you make us have
Speaker 2: a little struggle down, y'all miss a D.
Speaker 1: Y'all miss ad what team wouldn't trade?
Speaker 2: I mean, they're on a halfful of teams that wouldn't
Speaker 2: trade their best player or their second best player for Luca.
Speaker 1: Doncics, right.
Speaker 2: Uh, Milwaukee probably wouldn't do it because it's reported that
Speaker 2: milklewalk they brought the trade to Milwaukee and Milwaukee said no.
Speaker 2: Probably they wouldn't trade uh uh j T for it.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't trade Yo Kic. Probably not gonna trade Shade.
Speaker 2: But everybody else game, everybody else's game, right, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: So but it's a disappointing loss. These are I mean,
Speaker 2: if you try to make a if you're trying to
Speaker 2: make a move, these are the games that you gotta
Speaker 2: that you gonna have to win.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to win.
Speaker 2: So congratulations to the Hornet they come to La get
Speaker 2: a victory. One hundred and ninety seven. I would like
Speaker 2: to be on I'd like to be a fly on
Speaker 2: a wall show in a situation like this where you
Speaker 2: a game that you should have won, because even with
Speaker 2: the players that the Lakers have, I still believe they're
Speaker 2: a better team.
Speaker 1: Than the Hornets, and you didn't win.
Speaker 2: I wonder what the coach said, because I know what
Speaker 2: the NFL coach would have said. He'd been cursing and
Speaker 2: kicking ish it ain't know, Hey guy, you know we
Speaker 2: just hey, we left some players out there, you know,
Speaker 2: the fifty fifty balls.
Speaker 1: Ain't none of that.
Speaker 2: You lose a game and your coach believed that you
Speaker 2: had the better team and it was because of effort
Speaker 2: to things like that.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, cool, losing his mind? What hey, it's honestly,
Speaker 5: it's a third quarter. You could lock it on the
Speaker 5: third quarter. Third quarter is what every right away from him.
Speaker 5: It did.
Speaker 2: But how many times did Chad how you and y'all
Speaker 2: know you if you follow the Lakers, how many times
Speaker 2: did we said the third quarter? We say that year
Speaker 2: after year after year after year, game after game after
Speaker 2: game after game. I mean, I mean, at some point
Speaker 2: in time, I mean, they let the coaches know that,
Speaker 2: the players know that. I don't really know what else
Speaker 2: if there is to do or to say, except go
Speaker 2: out there and do it.
Speaker 1: Because it's not like we're breaking news. This is not
Speaker 1: no no.
Speaker 2: You know you got to open the FBI fousand and
Speaker 2: unsealed documents. They played terrible in the third quarter, and
Speaker 2: it has been a real current thing for the last
Speaker 2: four or five years. So I really don't I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the issue is. I don't mean
Speaker 2: to be sure that's up the JJ Reddick and the
Speaker 2: coaching staff, Scotty Brooks, Nate McMillan.
Speaker 1: It's on them to figure that issh out.
Speaker 5: And the funny thing about it is JJ can talk
Speaker 5: about it all he want, Scotty can talk about all
Speaker 5: he want, but a hell, when the players come out
Speaker 5: at halftime, they got to be the ones to execute it.
Speaker 5: They got to be the ones to come out with
Speaker 5: the energy. They got to be the ones to play
Speaker 5: on both ends of the court, of both ends of
Speaker 5: the floor.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, we know that the problem that the Lakers going
Speaker 2: to have with no A D it's defense because now
Speaker 2: they have no no back line of defense. They really
Speaker 2: don't have a guy that's really good in the picket
Speaker 2: roll defense. And you see, like I said, the last
Speaker 2: two and a half minutes, all they did was go
Speaker 2: pick and roll to the game. They put Luke and
Speaker 2: pick and roll with below handling the ball, and they
Speaker 2: got wide open threes and LaMelo iceter game basically with
Speaker 2: a floater. I mean, it's not complicated. Everybody see what's
Speaker 2: going on. I mean even the most like damn, they
Speaker 2: running the same play for a high pick put Luke
Speaker 2: in the picket, roll boom, get what I want. So
Speaker 2: that's on them to figure this out. At some point
Speaker 2: in time. I'm sure Darvin Ham had this issue, Frank
Speaker 2: Vogel had this issue. Now JJ have this issue, and
Speaker 2: a lot of these players. Offston Reeves was there, Lebron
Speaker 2: was there, Ruy was there. So at some point in time,
Speaker 2: even when a D was there, when he was there,
Speaker 2: the third quarter has been there, Bugga boot, They're gonna
Speaker 2: have to figure this is shot. Steve Kerrt to ESPN
Speaker 2: he wasn't mad at Kad for rejecting to trade a
Speaker 2: golden State. I don't blame Cavin one bit for not
Speaker 2: wanting to rerun things here. It took so much ish
Speaker 2: for like, oh, you're jumping on the bandwagon, and he's
Speaker 2: Finals MVP two years in a row and it's still
Speaker 2: and he still gets criticized, So why would he want
Speaker 2: to face all the best again. Katie was smiling to comment,
Speaker 2: That's not the reason why didn't want to come back.
Speaker 2: I just didn't want to get traded midway through the season.
Speaker 2: Do you leave KD a little bit?
Speaker 5: A little bit A little bit of me believes him, obviously,
Speaker 5: I think even though it was mayway through the season.
Speaker 5: I think through the experiment in Phoenix and I don't
Speaker 5: think it's worked.
Speaker 1: I think it's failed. Obviously, you know, you think failure.
Speaker 1: It was an absolut failure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was too And I think I mean for KD,
Speaker 5: I would I don't want to. I hate calling them
Speaker 5: ring chasing, but I would have went to the better
Speaker 5: situation obviously, going back over there with Draymond Green.
Speaker 1: And Steph and trying to run it back and trying
Speaker 1: to run it back again.
Speaker 5: And I think the missing piece for them to get
Speaker 5: them over the hum and probably give them the opportunity
Speaker 5: in the West would be KAD going back Because what's
Speaker 5: going to happen right now in Phoenix? Where are you
Speaker 5: going to? You think nothing at all, nothing at all,
Speaker 5: But I think you want to stay there. And if
Speaker 5: you know KD know personally and you watch him from Afar,
Speaker 5: and you know a story. He loves the game of basketball.
Speaker 5: He loves the game of basketball, and if if he's
Speaker 5: going to be hind the eight ball, he's gonna do
Speaker 5: he's gonna scratch, call and do everything he can to
Speaker 5: have success down there in Arizona and leave out the
Speaker 5: right way.
Speaker 2: I think the thing why Katie was so successful he
Speaker 2: didn't have to worry about anything but ball. See in Brooklyn,
Speaker 2: he had to be a leader. You see Hope, you
Speaker 2: see and and and Phoenix. He has to be a leader. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Steph took care of that. Draymond took care of that,
Speaker 2: Clay took care of that. So now he just gets
Speaker 2: to do what he really wants to do. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't got if we have no Peth talk, I ain't
Speaker 2: got to say pick this issue up.
Speaker 1: I ain't got to do none of that. I do
Speaker 1: what I do. I go home and chill. That's what
Speaker 1: he wants to do.
Speaker 2: Got the problem with that, A part of it, part
Speaker 2: of me does believe that he didn't want to get
Speaker 2: traded during the season and say, you want to you know,
Speaker 2: ride this lot with his boys, ride out what.
Speaker 1: I mean, what I mean, where you where you go? Katie? Listen.
Speaker 1: They started it off, they thought it was gonna work.
Speaker 5: They thought the trio with Bill, Devin Booker and him
Speaker 5: will work some magic out there in the West.
Speaker 1: And it hasn't worked itself out.
Speaker 5: But I just think the fact that he's bounced around
Speaker 5: from Brooklyn, you know, went to Golden State. He didn't
Speaker 5: want to continue that same trend and be like, here
Speaker 5: we go again.
Speaker 1: You know something happened.
Speaker 5: At some point when your relationships on you get tired
Speaker 5: and moving on man, you get tired of moving.
Speaker 1: On him, and sometimes you be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just think this one out.
Speaker 5: I know it ain't working, but I'm gonna stick it
Speaker 5: out and do it everything I can until it's time
Speaker 5: to leave.
Speaker 1: And I can tell you what he's leaving in the
Speaker 1: goddamn summer. Okay, So so what did you do?
Speaker 2: All you did the lady inevitable you was missering before
Speaker 2: another another three four months because they're not going nowhere.
Speaker 2: They're not doing anything right right right. They don't have
Speaker 2: any defense. They're just like they're just they're just like
Speaker 2: the Lakers. They got no defense. They got all those scores.
Speaker 2: I mean, you got two guys that really is the
Speaker 2: same guy. Book is more athletic now, and I think
Speaker 2: he's a better player. I don't think he is. I
Speaker 2: know he's a better player than Bradley Bill. But that
Speaker 2: saying you got all that scoring, where the defense at
Speaker 2: now they get high? You got on a given not
Speaker 2: any of those guys can go get thirty or forty.
Speaker 2: Now theyven relegated Bradley Bill to the bench because they're
Speaker 2: hoping he would wave his no trade claws and then
Speaker 2: they can trade him and get Jimmy Butler. But he's like, nah,
Speaker 2: I put that in there for a reason. I put
Speaker 2: that in there for a reason. I don't want to
Speaker 2: go anywhere. I hate am I not going anywhere. So
Speaker 2: whether you want me or not, you don't. I'm saying,
Speaker 2: no joy. Hey, sometimes it's cheap with a keyboard and
Speaker 2: that that's that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: How that's crazy.
Speaker 5: How players You see the leverage NBA players have when
Speaker 5: it comes to stuff like that.
Speaker 2: He has a no trade, he don't have no leverage
Speaker 2: on you. He got a new trade clause. He and
Speaker 2: Lebron James one of the two players that have no trade,
Speaker 2: so that if he didn't have that, his ass was going.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 5: That's why I said leverage. That's that's that's all I meant.
Speaker 5: But you mean you mean to me you don't want
Speaker 5: me because I'm not as playing as well as you
Speaker 5: thought I should.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do everything I can.
Speaker 5: Obviously, injuries are hampered me performing performing to what we're
Speaker 5: used to seeing me play, like and I just got
Speaker 5: here and you're trying to get me to uproot my family.
Speaker 1: Man, child, please put this no trade.
Speaker 5: Claus in there is in there for a reason that
Speaker 5: there's a reason why, because that's the chick.
Speaker 1: Got the man coming off the bench, big got to
Speaker 1: coming off the bench. O Joe, Yeah, yeah, that'd be
Speaker 1: like you like, man, we want to move.
Speaker 2: You're like, nah, I ain't going okay, O Yo, you
Speaker 2: the flop? You a third receiver?
Speaker 1: Now? Third?
Speaker 2: Who you the third receiver? Now you want to be
Speaker 2: talking about Madden? Third receiver? You gotta know trade you
Speaker 2: don't they want to trade you? You don't want to go? Okay,
Speaker 2: you're the third receiver, right, I guess you going there.
Speaker 2: I guess you going there. Catch you get your little
Speaker 2: three four targets on Sunday and come on home.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 5: Oh hey, that's a lot of cardio bron, that's a
Speaker 5: lot of cardiofs.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't, I don't. I never looked at
Speaker 5: it like that. But when you're making that kind of money,
Speaker 5: Oh you want me to play?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 5: Let me look at this. How much I'm making and
Speaker 5: that's all you want me to do? Okay, bet, I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm not gonna do anything to jeopardize that money,
Speaker 2: right right? Oh yeah, I mean he's Bradley Beal probably
Speaker 2: making forty five fifty million dollars a year. So okay,
Speaker 2: this all, Hey, this all y'all want me to do?
Speaker 2: Get y'all twenty eight minutes a night, thirty minutes a night,
Speaker 2: and ain' really no strain on me because I'm coming
Speaker 2: off the bench.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's going together me coming off the bench.
Speaker 2: A lot of times you coming in there there, you
Speaker 2: know that's the second you're going against the second unit.
Speaker 2: So I guess they say you can get your points
Speaker 2: that way because you know the ball is gonna go
Speaker 2: to KD book first. Those are your first two options.
Speaker 2: Bradley Bill has never been a third option. He's always
Speaker 2: been he was he was one two when he had
Speaker 2: John Wall. When John Wall left, you know it was
Speaker 2: I guess he had I think he had Russ. No,
Speaker 2: he had Russ for a year or two, but he
Speaker 2: was the first scoring option even though Russ had the
Speaker 2: ball in his hand.
Speaker 1: So he's never been like this.
Speaker 2: It's never been a situation where he's not used to
Speaker 2: being able to get as many shots as he want.
Speaker 2: He's a third option no matter how you look at it,
Speaker 2: all right, that's what he wanted, the best third options.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you're still the third option.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, even as a starter, and I'm
Speaker 5: thinking about it, if I was a starter as the
Speaker 5: number one, that's say I was the number one in Cincinnati,
Speaker 5: same scenario. I go to New England and I'm the
Speaker 5: third or I'm the fourth guy because the option in
Speaker 5: front of me are better at that time in that
Speaker 5: specific system. That does something to your psyche, you know that, right,
Speaker 5: it does something.
Speaker 2: To take your word for it. I mean I wasn't
Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't know like that. I wasn't no
Speaker 2: third option, no shoe. But I take your word for it.
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 1: Here you go. You know some.
Speaker 2: I can't empathize the boy situation. I have a bet
Speaker 2: I have empathy for you. So you know what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna You know, empathy emforthing required you to divorce your ego,
Speaker 2: separate your ego and see yourself in a similar situation.
Speaker 1: So you know what. There you go, I go, yeah, pretend,
Speaker 1: pretend you, Bradley Beald.
Speaker 2: Right, Now I go from somewhere where I'm able to
Speaker 2: play freey now I'm coming off a bench.
Speaker 1: Or I can't take.
Speaker 2: I can't take a high volume of shots. So now
Speaker 2: I'm messed up up here. Not only am I messed up.
Speaker 5: When I do get on the court, sometimes it might
Speaker 5: head to take because I'm not in rhythm.
Speaker 2: That means I shot efficiency in shot selection has to
Speaker 2: be that much better. It something to you. Well, look,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what I think. When I got back,
Speaker 2: I got back to Denver, Rod was clearly the number
Speaker 2: one easy. Ed was coming off a severe leg injury.
Speaker 2: So you know it's basically me and Ed fighting for
Speaker 2: two three. But I mean there are some games, so
Speaker 2: you have been in that position where you were the three. No,
Speaker 2: I was always I finished. No, I never finished when
Speaker 2: I was on the team. I never finished. Once I
Speaker 2: became what I became, I never finished worse than second
Speaker 2: and catch it on the team.
Speaker 1: Okay, I understand that. But when you say.
Speaker 5: I meet, I hear you. You're talking from a statistical standpoint. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm just saying you were that, you were three, No
Speaker 5: matter what, I was not the three.
Speaker 2: I was then Rod Smith and McCaffrey with the one
Speaker 2: with the one here, Rod was one. I was too
Speaker 2: and I was too a it was to be. I
Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about. It sounds good, it
Speaker 2: sounds hey. They tell y'all better you better check, you
Speaker 2: better check it. It sound how hey? You tell me
Speaker 2: the time you've seen a third receiver? Get to fourteen
Speaker 2: to the game. What happened when somebody hurt you? I mean,
Speaker 2: what third receiver?
Speaker 1: You know? Just say it.
Speaker 2: I got you, I got your listen, listen. But but look,
Speaker 2: I understand. But for me, oh Joe, they're like, man,
Speaker 2: dang man, hey, you ain't catching no passes. And then
Speaker 2: they used to say, bro, I got to.
Speaker 1: Check the father. It's clear. Mh that's on y'all. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make the same out of Monch. See.
Speaker 2: The thing that I love about this is that I'm
Speaker 2: gonna make the I don't get paid by the catch.
Speaker 2: I don't get paid by the touchdown. Y'all want to
Speaker 2: throw me t y'all want to give me ten targets, right, fine,
Speaker 2: if you want to give me three targets, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: make the same amount of money. So I ain't stressing out,
Speaker 2: I said, I'm too old now now. If y'all would
Speaker 2: have got me when I was in my twenties, I
Speaker 2: would have got me in my damn thirty. I got kid, man,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get all this money i'm sumold to get.
Speaker 2: I ain't giving me, y'all issh back in a year
Speaker 2: or two. I'm gonna take my black ass home anyway,
Speaker 2: So y'all have ad it. I ain't get man, I'm
Speaker 2: not stressing out by catching no passes. I'm gonna make
Speaker 2: the same amount of money. Oh Joe, I'm gonna make
Speaker 2: the same. So it wasn't no strain on me. Y'all
Speaker 2: throw it to me. I'm gonna catch it. If you don't,
Speaker 2: you know a eighty four we probably should have gave
Speaker 2: you a more bro the game over. Y'all telling me
Speaker 2: what y'all should have done. They don't do it. Who
Speaker 2: the helping? All of this should make y'all mad, because
Speaker 2: that's what y'all get paid for. My job is not
Speaker 2: to tell you what I'm open on yo, y'all have
Speaker 2: said mm hm, y'all tell me. Let the coaches coach
Speaker 2: the players gonna play. I'm playing. I ain't calling no players. Now,
Speaker 2: what I would get mad about to come for a quarter?
Speaker 2: Eighty four?
Speaker 1: What you? Uh uh?
Speaker 2: What you like our life for this game to be
Speaker 2: over with? Y'all been bull y'all been bullguing for three
Speaker 2: and a half quarters. That's what I would like. I
Speaker 2: would like this game to be over with and so
Speaker 2: I can go on and get out. Hey, nah, don't
Speaker 2: be asking me no question. Now, Hey, y'all gonna spread
Speaker 2: it around. You know we're gonna spread it around this week.
Speaker 2: You know, aid Ed be ready, Rod be ready, y'all
Speaker 2: be ready backside of the backfield. Now, all that spreading
Speaker 2: around is ain't work right, hey, eighty four? What you
Speaker 2: what you like our life for this ish to be
Speaker 2: over with?
Speaker 1: Y'all? Come, I can I can pitch you saying that too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, now all of a sudden, O yoke. We got
Speaker 2: five minutes left, We down fourteen. What I hated being
Speaker 2: in that situation, man, I hated getting no empty calories
Speaker 2: because when the game was mel tung hung in the balance.
Speaker 2: Now we got four minutes, we down fourteen, we're on
Speaker 2: the ten yard line.
Speaker 1: What you look at? What you like?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'd like to have more opportunities in the first
Speaker 2: three quarter. No, y'all keep calling. Y'all keep calling. Y'all
Speaker 2: cant calling what y'all was calling. Just bad ad, Hey, hey,
Speaker 2: bad plead. Y'all lifit to get my blood pressure up.
Speaker 2: I learned a long time ago. O yoe like I said.
Speaker 2: That's why I stopped putting in centence in my contract.
Speaker 2: Once I realized they can manipulate that and jacked me
Speaker 2: out of my one hundred grand I said, Man, I
Speaker 2: wish I might.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting another incentive.
Speaker 2: They couldn't give me a million dollars in my in
Speaker 2: my contract to go to the Pro Bowl or lead
Speaker 2: the team because y'all.
Speaker 1: What y'all paying me.
Speaker 2: I should do everything that y'all trying to incentivize without
Speaker 2: the highest payd tight end. I should leave my team
Speaker 2: and receive it. I should go to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: I should be an all pro. I don't need no incident.
Speaker 2: Y'all messed with that. Give me my money. I want
Speaker 2: all my money. Hey, I ain't got nothing money saying
Speaker 2: it won't you got not one even if I come
Speaker 2: to work on time. No, that ain't nohing said it
Speaker 2: for me. If I make weight. Nope, I don't want
Speaker 2: that either. Nope, I don't.
Speaker 1: M hm. Put it all, put it all in there. Yep.
Speaker 2: Give me everything I'm supposed to get. Hey, Shannon, they're
Speaker 2: gonna pay you over seventeen weeks. This is what you ay.
Speaker 2: This is how much you make it. Okay, I'm cool
Speaker 2: with that. But man, I've been stopped worried about that.
Speaker 2: Oh yo, comes many when they jacked me out of me,
Speaker 2: when they jacked me out of them?
Speaker 1: What you call them? Said?
Speaker 2: Man? Man, y'all, ain't finna make me do something bad
Speaker 2: to somebody up in here. Listen, that's the game they play, now,
Speaker 2: that's the game they play. An anonymous NBA GM called
Speaker 2: out Adam Silver. Adam Silver is obsessed with tournaments lay
Speaker 2: in in season, not all Star. They're they're not proven
Speaker 2: to benefit our league.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, what's your think?
Speaker 5: I mean, the head guy saying that the tournaments trying
Speaker 5: to create excitement, trying to create viewers globally as well,
Speaker 5: and it's not benefiting the league. It's not benefiting the players.
Speaker 1: How is it not the n Cedon tournament.
Speaker 5: Isn't the n Ceding tournament allowing the players to make
Speaker 5: extra money and benefit them by having it being played
Speaker 5: in season.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess they're trying to drum up support because
Speaker 2: here's the thing, Oh, Joe Love, you got eleven You
Speaker 2: got eleven what seventy seven billion over the next seven
Speaker 2: eleven years, and so we got it because here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Is kind of like soccer, you man, you know, soccer
Speaker 2: got all the tournament. They got you copah and this
Speaker 2: one and that one.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, champion, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: So I think that's what you know, uh adamble Commission
Speaker 2: is trying to get a playoff that.
Speaker 1: The playing tournament. I mean, people didn't like that.
Speaker 2: People thought, look, I remember one time when the three
Speaker 2: point competition was started.
Speaker 1: Gimmick, I mean the three point shot.
Speaker 2: They're like, man, it's a gimmick right now, Look, everything
Speaker 2: is a gimmick until you get used to it.
Speaker 1: The forward pass was a gimmick, right yes, ford ps like,
Speaker 1: what do you do? That's a game? Man?
Speaker 2: No, that ain't gonna be now. Can you imagine a
Speaker 2: game of football without the forward pass or jo wouldn't
Speaker 2: make no sense, It would make zero sense. So look,
Speaker 2: I get what I get what Commission's trying to do.
Speaker 2: He's trying to do anything he possibly can to get
Speaker 2: eyeballs to the television to watch these games.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And so to play in tournament, I mean to play
Speaker 2: in tournaments are always good, you know teams like look,
Speaker 2: normally one through eight you made the tournament. You know
Speaker 2: where you are. But now eight through ten you gotta
Speaker 2: play what? No? No, yeah, no, seven? Ept no, what
Speaker 2: is it? Seven play? Ten and eight nine play? And
Speaker 2: then that winner, those two winners play each other. And
Speaker 2: that's so whoever wins there the seventh seed and then
Speaker 2: the next two is the is the winner is the
Speaker 2: eight seed. But I get, I get what commissions trying
Speaker 2: to do. I get what I really do. Ocho, Uh,
Speaker 2: you gotta try something. I mean, you got this kind
Speaker 2: of money at stake, you gotta try something. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean the only thing that I can deal I can
Speaker 2: deal with all of the only thing I don't like
Speaker 2: the All Star. I don't like the All Star.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, the format is not not what it
Speaker 1: should be.
Speaker 5: In the gym that's playing in the gym, that's complaining
Speaker 5: about what what Adam Silver is doing.
Speaker 2: Why don't the gms have ideas as well? Why don't
Speaker 2: they have ideas to continue to grow the game.
Speaker 5: Why don't they have ideas that they run by Silver
Speaker 5: saying listen, I think we can do this. The players
Speaker 5: will benefit from it, us as owners will benefit from it,
Speaker 5: and those that are watching they'll enjoy it. Instead of
Speaker 5: saying or non the source complaining about what Silver is
Speaker 5: actually doing.
Speaker 2: Well, rest is so David Stern, You're like, look, y'all
Speaker 2: going to either play or we're going to call back
Speaker 2: some of this money?
Speaker 1: Which one you want? Be really that simple?
Speaker 2: You shouldn't have to beg guys to play hard, oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: if you're making one fifty two hundred three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2: I don't really think it's asking too much. I really don't.
Speaker 2: Now I could be wrong. Chat and y'all might be
Speaker 2: totally disagree. Oh the season too long, and YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2: I get all that.
Speaker 1: The season isn't.
Speaker 2: Any longer than what it was the last fifty years.
Speaker 2: How long have they been playing eighty two games forever
Speaker 2: at a day? So this notion about all the games
Speaker 2: will know it's not, No, it's not. These guys should
Speaker 2: be in better shape because they have they know better,
Speaker 2: they got better training, they got better nutrition. They got
Speaker 2: spell supplementation, They got around the clock physios and trainers
Speaker 2: and YadA YadA YadA. They got chefs that prepare their
Speaker 2: food and cook whatever. So there's no excuse to play hard,
Speaker 2: to ask you to play harder. You making three hundred million,
Speaker 2: O Joe, damn, I.
Speaker 1: Got let me get. I don't an knee. I on't
Speaker 1: even need three hundred. You gave me one, Give me
Speaker 1: one fifty. I would play hard.
Speaker 2: Give me cause you know what, on Joe, I remember
Speaker 2: working hard when I was making five.
Speaker 1: Dollars a day. Come on, man, talk to me.
Speaker 2: I remember working I remember working hard, making ten making
Speaker 2: sixteen catching a thousand chickens, making a dollar a thousand,
Speaker 2: catch sixteen thousand chicken, sixteen dollars. I worked hard for
Speaker 2: that little bit of money. What the hell you think
Speaker 2: I do for ten million? It's twenty million thirty let
Speaker 2: alone three hundred and.
Speaker 5: If you think about it, I think if players, when
Speaker 5: they make that kind of money, if they understood and
Speaker 5: never forgot where you came from before you had that
Speaker 5: kind of money, and what you did to get to
Speaker 5: where you are. I think sometimes they lose sight of
Speaker 5: that though they do. I really do you know money?
Speaker 5: Money are changing now?
Speaker 1: It changed. Sometimes it change you for the better, sometime
Speaker 1: it change you for the worst.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes money makes you more what you already are.
Speaker 2: What are you? Oht your at your core? What are
Speaker 2: you when you don't have it? Because now when you
Speaker 2: get it, it exacerbates what you already are.
Speaker 1: But that's a good one, every boy. That's why people
Speaker 1: beat up even bro.
Speaker 2: If you got an eating problem and you on a
Speaker 2: college budget, what happens if I give you ten, fifteen,
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars?
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, hey, but at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Money, no money. Oh he changed what he got.
Speaker 2: But know he wasn't. He was always that. He just
Speaker 2: needed the money for y'all to see in his true self. Right,
Speaker 2: I saw that was changed. He's always been this he
Speaker 2: or she. I'm not gonna say he'll just just he.
Speaker 1: He or she?
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 5: Woman women as well, sometimes they ain't gotta be money.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it gonna be intention. Well, you know what happened
Speaker 5: when you get that you never had it before, and
Speaker 5: he started getting from everywhere.
Speaker 1: You get your big head.
Speaker 5: You know, you start feeling yourself, you know, you start overvaluing.
Speaker 1: The boy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I've been I I get what Adam is
Speaker 2: trying to do. Adam is trying to grow the game,
Speaker 2: trying to because you know, soccer have these in season
Speaker 2: tournaments and all this stuff. We saw what hockey just
Speaker 2: had the what is that called the something for making
Speaker 2: for nations or something.
Speaker 1: What they call it was spilling Sweden, Sweden and the US. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, but one thing hockey, hockey. They be playing hard.
Speaker 2: They've had it once. Once you touch that ice, you
Speaker 2: strap up, you strap up. They they they they listen,
Speaker 2: you know what time it is? I think, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: I think, I think a lot. I think the difference
Speaker 2: Adam Adam and the players. He viewsed the players as
Speaker 2: players as partners. Right, they start me in that partner.
Speaker 2: I'm partner. I'm partner with the the owners. We partners.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You'll employees, right, just like the NFL.
Speaker 2: The partners are the broadcast networks in the NFL, the
Speaker 2: employees are the players players, right, And they don't let you.
Speaker 1: They don't let you forget it as such. Uh and
Speaker 1: if you do forget, they will remind you. They remind you.
Speaker 1: He remind you, They remind you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they definitely remind Yojoe.
Speaker 1: The legendary LG, the original l G. Now we got
Speaker 1: a little l G.
Speaker 2: Ladadias by Dog wants Michael Parsons to stop podcasting and
Speaker 2: put his focus on football. He's a great player, but guys,
Speaker 2: let's do more. Let's play more football less podcast. Michael
Speaker 2: in particular, he'll have a movie, an action movie, The
Speaker 2: brother Got It, but don't forget where you are at.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 5: I like LT and anything coming from one of the greatest,
Speaker 5: if not the greatest, of all time, especially on the
Speaker 5: deepensive end.
Speaker 1: And he's talking about of one of the greats right now.
Speaker 5: I agree, but I kind of disagree, especially with the
Speaker 5: times that we're in right now. Michael Parsons, he plays
Speaker 5: really well. He plays at a very high level along
Speaker 5: with his podcast. The podcast doesn't take anything away from
Speaker 5: him on the actual football field.
Speaker 1: Between the lines.
Speaker 5: When the whistleblows, you know what you're getting with he left.
Speaker 5: You know what you getting from every time.
Speaker 2: Now when you look at them defensively, you'll say, well,
Speaker 2: they got some weak spots.
Speaker 1: Well, Michael only played in one spot. He can't be everywhere.
Speaker 7: Sometimes he's stretched lines sometimes, you know, sometimes they go
Speaker 7: down in the three. Sometimes they got him sit down
Speaker 7: there and sitting down there in the box at a
Speaker 7: linebacker position, moving around trying to find ways because he's
Speaker 7: good in space.
Speaker 2: Real will stop lying all that part. Oh, were gonna
Speaker 2: have it. We're gonna have it. We're gonna have a
Speaker 2: Ravens defense. We're gonna have a Sea Offs defense. But
Speaker 2: he's supposed to say that.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't. You ain't got to say nothing.
Speaker 1: Keep your mind shut on your No, you don't.
Speaker 2: You've got to stop telling these guys they got to
Speaker 2: say something.
Speaker 1: They did. But you have to believe in your team
Speaker 1: and who who you playing? Yourself? So how did okay,
Speaker 1: he says what he said? Okay, we're gonna win. When
Speaker 1: he don't win, how to make him look Ojo? Well,
Speaker 1: it make him look crazy. But you know, you know,
Speaker 1: can I say something real quick?
Speaker 5: Yes? And say he say something crazy all the time, right, Michael,
Speaker 5: Michael Parson's been talking crazy all season? It's you know
Speaker 5: this season when the Cowboys do play, you know, you
Speaker 5: know who do show up? What's off in the passing game?
Speaker 2: What about when they get the ball run down the throat?
Speaker 5: Hey, you know they run away from you, mam, They.
Speaker 1: Ran away from LT. What do you do You're right
Speaker 1: away from Reggie. Yeah, right, you're right. Listen, I mean listen,
Speaker 1: I mean l T. Has I understand we're in the time.
Speaker 1: We're in a different era. You know.
Speaker 2: Some guys they like to talk about the game of
Speaker 2: talk about the game of football after it's being played.
Speaker 5: They focus on it when they're at it, but in
Speaker 5: they're off time, they have podcasts. That's just where we
Speaker 5: are right now. Are things going to change if he
Speaker 5: stopped doing this podcast and all of a sudden he
Speaker 5: can I mean no, Michael Parsons is a player that
Speaker 5: he is. He's one of the great ones in the
Speaker 5: NFL right now at what he does, and it's just
Speaker 5: it just it's just it is what it is. I like,
Speaker 5: I like his opinions.
Speaker 2: Tan got a podcast that that's not that's got a
Speaker 2: podcast that's not him. Defends Player of the Year, but
Speaker 2: that's not him. You're you're you're calling there, let me finish.
Speaker 5: You call the names that are good at what they
Speaker 5: do at their pacific positions, but that's not what they
Speaker 5: want to do.
Speaker 1: Michael Parson wants to have a podcast because he likes
Speaker 1: to talk.
Speaker 2: Some guys want to win if some guys want to beat,
Speaker 2: some guys want to be famous and promote themselves. Now
Speaker 2: which one you want to be? Because see, the quickest
Speaker 2: way to brand, to build a brand, is to win.
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan brand, what is it? Matthew Johnson brand?
Speaker 1: What is it? Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes? What
Speaker 1: was that?
Speaker 2: Joe Montana? What were their brands based on? Joe Lebron,
Speaker 2: James Steph Curry. Hey, you heard everybody is name, You
Speaker 2: heard everybody's his name?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: They were ball dominant and were in control of those
Speaker 5: wins and losses. You talked about the defense that you
Speaker 5: talk about the defensive player, you talk about the defense
Speaker 5: end that can change the trajectory of a game. But
Speaker 5: had nothing to do with wins and losses. Oh but
Speaker 5: he definitely does did so? Lt didn't impact the game?
Speaker 1: Come on, man, we know that, we know. Okay, what
Speaker 1: about ray Lewis? Did he impact the game? Of course?
Speaker 1: What about Prime? I gay, y'all care? What about Prime?
Speaker 1: How was Prime? How was Prime's brand? What did that?
Speaker 1: You say that, yeah, he.
Speaker 5: Could impact the game, though, because you know Michael Parsons
Speaker 5: don't impact the game.
Speaker 2: I'm just asking you oh, I know a lot of
Speaker 2: guys to impact the game.
Speaker 1: We just you You do realize we ain't talking about
Speaker 1: no slous now we talk about no.
Speaker 2: But there's been a lot of guys to impact the game.
Speaker 2: There have been guys that impact the game less, but
Speaker 2: one more. Ain't got a bigger plan for Come what
Speaker 2: I'm saying this is the team game.
Speaker 1: I just I just wanted to just say to remember
Speaker 1: that now.
Speaker 2: All the game the team you mentioned Prime, do you
Speaker 2: see what team Prime was playing for?
Speaker 1: Do you see what else was around him while he
Speaker 1: was doing what he was doing?
Speaker 2: Guess what they went and got Prime? Jeffery Cisco said,
Speaker 2: you know what, we can't beat Dallas. We gotta go
Speaker 2: get pride. They ain't got pride. What did the Cowboys do?
Speaker 2: Go get it back?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, it ain't that complicated, though, Joe.
Speaker 2: I'm just look, I'm with.
Speaker 1: You, mean you right, I'm I'm with you? Are you right?
Speaker 1: But also we're in a different time right now, different
Speaker 1: we are.
Speaker 2: I think the thing, Oh, Joe, I think the thing
Speaker 2: is it's like, look, Michael wants to have a career
Speaker 2: after football, and it seems to be he wants it
Speaker 2: to be on the media side, no problem whatsoever. And
Speaker 2: I think what he's doing, he's starting out because I
Speaker 2: had I had, I had a radio show when I
Speaker 2: was in when I was in Denver started I think
Speaker 2: I started in like ninety six. My got Don Martin.
Speaker 2: I know you watching the show. He was at I
Speaker 2: Heeart Radio for a number of years.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Don is still there, but he
Speaker 2: was my producer. So Don and I we go way back,
Speaker 2: and so I kind of like, I really didn't know
Speaker 2: what what I'm gonna do, but I'm like, hey, they like,
Speaker 2: would you like to do a radio show? Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: how much y'all playing? He wasn't paying a whole lot
Speaker 2: o shoe, but it gave him an opportunity to talk.
Speaker 2: When they asked me to, you know, come in to
Speaker 2: do the local news, I held, I do that, but
Speaker 2: all right, and so I knew I would go I
Speaker 2: could do something in the media.
Speaker 1: I was always very candid, very straightforward.
Speaker 2: But I don't think they're they're ever a doubt that
Speaker 2: anybody that ever been with me. Ask my teammates. Football
Speaker 2: was at the frowfront. Anything that interfered with that wasn't
Speaker 2: gonna happen. So my my radio show show was I
Speaker 2: would take it after Friday's practice, go in there, hit
Speaker 2: that thing for about twenty five minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done. That's that's it for me.
Speaker 2: Uh. It had been very interesting old show. And Peter,
Speaker 2: I've gotten asked this question. If you were playing in today,
Speaker 2: would you have a podcast?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, I'm too I can't. I have a singular focus.
Speaker 2: I'm only I've only been good at a handful of things,
Speaker 2: but not never simultaneously.
Speaker 1: M hm. That's why I'm not married.
Speaker 2: I was either I was good at football and a
Speaker 2: terrible boyfriend. Either I was a great boyfriend, I would
Speaker 2: be terrible at football. So guess what you want. I
Speaker 2: had to go, Hey, hey, Brack, but you talking now,
Speaker 2: hear me. I'm just being I'm just. I'm just, I.
Speaker 1: Just, I just.
Speaker 2: I'm just honest, O, Joe, I'm just honest. And that's why.
Speaker 2: So I have a singular focus. If you notice, when
Speaker 2: I'm good at something, i'm great at it because I'm
Speaker 2: all in. Ain't no he ain't no handling gretel. I
Speaker 2: don't save no broid crumb for the trip home, won't, Joe.
Speaker 2: I'm lost, right, I'm lost, don't, Yoe. I ain't got
Speaker 2: no navigation on how to get back. All I know
Speaker 2: is is once straight ahead, I'm going. We're going that way.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get people to be with me that believe
Speaker 2: in I believe in the vision, and we're gonna go
Speaker 2: get it done. Yes, hum, But that's just me, Like
Speaker 2: I said, I think, see, the biggest mistake that we
Speaker 2: make is that we try to see ourselves than other people. Right,
Speaker 2: that's my biggest mistake. That's my biggest mistake.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: And and I'm i gotta talk because I think I
Speaker 2: can say I owe yo, honestly, I think I.
Speaker 1: Can save everybody. And you know, hey, hey man, can
Speaker 1: you do sure? No problem? Call Shelley, Hey man, we
Speaker 1: got this, Paul Shelley.
Speaker 2: And you know, if twenty five, here's fifty thousand, there's
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand here and and and and my, my, my, my,
Speaker 2: Marvin Marvin done my who's my agent and he's been
Speaker 2: my right hand man for twenty nine years.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, he said, you got to stop this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, he said, I understand, He said, I
Speaker 2: understand you better than most right, I'm an eighty three
Speaker 2: I think, he said, eighty three eighty four year old
Speaker 2: George guy. He said, but I know you, And he said,
Speaker 2: but you got to stop this year. He said, you
Speaker 2: can't save everybody. He said, you got too bad. You
Speaker 2: said you got too big of a heart.
Speaker 5: Yeah, saying I learned that quick and most and most
Speaker 5: of the time, you know that I learned quick. No
Speaker 5: matter how much you do, sometimes they forget about the
Speaker 5: first time you say no, every bad I just they
Speaker 5: forget about it. They forget about all the time you
Speaker 5: say yes. And I think that's mine, always trying to
Speaker 5: save a feeling I can, I can come in and
Speaker 5: put my cap on, or I got you. Don't worry
Speaker 5: about it. I got you. And every time on the
Speaker 5: back end, you end up regretting it. Every time, I oh, Joe,
Speaker 5: I don't regret it.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of times I give I give
Speaker 2: the charities, but a lot of times but I give it.
Speaker 1: But like I said, on you, I give it.
Speaker 2: I give with I don't have any expectations, right, get
Speaker 2: anything back?
Speaker 1: Right? Right?
Speaker 2: Nothing, absolutely nothing. And Shelley called me the other day
Speaker 2: and says, uh, I said, what's up? Well, you need
Speaker 2: to stop getting away so much money. Yeah, I said, Shelley,
Speaker 2: you called out of the blue with that. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so okay. And then I don't know if she talked
Speaker 2: to Marvin or Marvin called her, but he had the
Speaker 2: conversation with me today. So I'm done. I can't help everybody,
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I'm done trying. Yeah, I'm done. I'm done.
Speaker 2: I'm done. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Another because I.
Speaker 2: Don't have federal government capabilities, I can't just print money
Speaker 2: to stimulate the economy. I gotta make my money. I'm
Speaker 2: talking about it, literally, make my money old fashionable. I
Speaker 2: can't go print it. Brian, I'm good. I'm done, So
Speaker 2: don't ask. The answer is no. Moving forward, what's today, it's.
Speaker 1: A twenty eight to nineteen February nineteen. Now it's a twenty.
Speaker 1: It's the twenty.
Speaker 2: Where you are, so if you were, if you if
Speaker 2: you were in the Eastern time zone, no, if you're
Speaker 2: in the Western, if you're the Pacific time zone. In
Speaker 2: an hour and forty minute, the answer will be no.
Speaker 2: If my fathers going about to be off, so don't
Speaker 2: call me. No, hell no, oh Joe. The Cowboys overhauled
Speaker 2: their coaching staff this offseason, party ways with Mike McCarthy
Speaker 2: and promoting O C. Brian Schottenneimer. The Cowboys hired Arizona
Speaker 2: Carter's officsive line coach Clayton Adams for the open OC roll.
Speaker 2: Here's what Adam wants to see in the offense, the
Speaker 2: same thing I want to see, the same thing I
Speaker 2: want from every player on offense, and that is to
Speaker 2: create violence in the game. Be aggressive, run, hit. I
Speaker 2: think every decision that we made schematically needs to lean
Speaker 2: into that direction. So if there's a gray area, what
Speaker 2: is going to allow these guys to play more free
Speaker 2: and run and hit and be violent. Oh Joe, do
Speaker 2: you think the Cowboys will be able to create a
Speaker 2: violent offense next year?
Speaker 5: I mean no, Violence always starts at the forefront, right
Speaker 5: up front. It starts in the trenches. That's where the
Speaker 5: violence needs to come from. That's where the violet needs
Speaker 5: to come from. It starts with the front, the front five.
Speaker 5: They got to set the tone. That's where it comes from.
Speaker 5: Everything else is built off what that offensive line does,
Speaker 5: So that's where that's where it comes in at.
Speaker 1: So how is the offensive line going to be?
Speaker 2: Because everything he just reiterated everything he just said, is
Speaker 2: not going to be possible unless it's exactly like I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna throw I'm just gonna throw it out there,
Speaker 2: like the Eagles, m like the Ravens.
Speaker 1: You're right, that's it.
Speaker 2: Everything you want to do, whatever you set your eyes to,
Speaker 2: whatever you come into the off season or into the
Speaker 2: season saying you want to do offensively, it all starts
Speaker 2: with your officers line.
Speaker 1: If you ain't got that and they ain't got that, mentality, no,
Speaker 1: it ain't.
Speaker 2: Front the back, o yoe. You build front the back,
Speaker 2: old line back, d line back. Yeah you say that,
Speaker 2: but that's a mentality. You got it, But it's I mean,
Speaker 2: I take my head off the teams like the Eagles,
Speaker 2: who I don't know how much they hit, but they've
Speaker 2: taken a lot of the physicality out of it.
Speaker 1: Oh your cause, you can't practice like that.
Speaker 2: Where's the practice we had nine on sevene Hey we're
Speaker 2: putting you know, we're putting pads on people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 2: Can you you go out there and you do and
Speaker 2: walk through them all of a sudden, Hey turn it up?
Speaker 1: Turn what up?
Speaker 2: But it was a mindset, Oh we about you about
Speaker 2: to Hey, hey we moved a man against his will.
Speaker 2: Will think about that chat, think about what you say.
Speaker 2: You said, so, hey, get off my porch. I ain't
Speaker 2: going nowhere the hell you say you're fin the lead
Speaker 2: here and you do that over and over, O Joe,
Speaker 2: you gotta quit. Somebody quit today, and that's what Jack quit.
Speaker 5: By the time you get to the fourth quarter, they
Speaker 5: gonna quit, they gonna fold.
Speaker 1: I ain't.
Speaker 2: I ain't quitting. Yeah, for sure. I gotta make you
Speaker 2: turn it down because see, I know how you run. Okay,
Speaker 2: cause back you know, back when we played, O Joe,
Speaker 2: we rolled your ass up.
Speaker 1: We were cutting.
Speaker 2: And I know you're getting up quick at the first quarter. Oh,
Speaker 2: hold Joe, they get a quick, Oh yeah, getting up.
Speaker 1: Hey. Hey, I'm still making.
Speaker 2: The players okay, okay, John top second, Hey the second quarter,
Speaker 2: old Joe, Hey, I'm still here sharp. Third quarter, bastay
Speaker 2: on my knees. Fourth quarter, he ain't nowhere to be
Speaker 2: ain't nowhere to be seen. But you got the It's
Speaker 2: easy to talk about something, O Joe. It's a lot
Speaker 2: more difficult to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The coaches.
Speaker 5: The coach could talk on the world to the coach
Speaker 5: can talk, he can he can talk, so he turned
Speaker 5: blue in the face. But unless you have the personnel
Speaker 5: and the players that have the mentality that you're regurgitating.
Speaker 6: The mentality that you talk about, man, that ain't they ain't.
Speaker 6: You ain't talking about nothing. You ain't talking about nothing.
Speaker 6: What you have is what you have right now. You
Speaker 6: can say whatever you want.
Speaker 5: You know your team, you know your personnel, So you
Speaker 5: gotta be careful what you said with your ass for
Speaker 5: because they're not built like that all of a sudden.
Speaker 5: Just because you have an off season don't mean they're
Speaker 5: coming back completely different next year.
Speaker 1: You are who you are, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach Martin has been in Wars and he's been
Speaker 2: in one of the premier guards. He's one of the
Speaker 2: best guards that ever played this game. But he's had
Speaker 2: a lot of He got a lot of miles on
Speaker 2: that body. Ojoe, he's not the same guy. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith had a lot of miles on his body.
Speaker 1: They let him go.
Speaker 2: H Still, they they they started to suffer when Travis
Speaker 2: Frederick had to retire prematurely mm hm.
Speaker 1: And they got guys now they're not they're not built
Speaker 1: like that. They not built like that. They can't run
Speaker 1: the football.
Speaker 2: See you and you how you know you violent when
Speaker 2: you can run the football. Yeah, that's where violence come
Speaker 2: in at absolutely look at it.
Speaker 1: He look at teams that can run the football. They're
Speaker 1: in a violent group.
Speaker 5: Notice when I talked about offenser lines, the first thing
Speaker 5: I said was Eagles, and I said Ravens. Yeah, everybody
Speaker 5: against the will when they playing getting Royd and not
Speaker 5: changing nothing regards to who they play.
Speaker 1: Detroit is another one. Oh yeah, Oh, I forgot to
Speaker 1: put the sulin and boys.
Speaker 2: They don't they don't play no. So it's interesting. I'm
Speaker 2: asked to see what they do. I'm gonna see if
Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to run the football down. Dell
Speaker 2: Is ric o'donald is a is a free agent. We
Speaker 2: don't see what they're gonna do an they running back
Speaker 2: position right, well, you know Zeke won't be back because
Speaker 2: they already let Zeke go. So now do they go
Speaker 2: into the draft. Do they get genty? I think they
Speaker 2: picked twelve thirteen. Will genty be available that that'd be
Speaker 2: a good one. Uh what running back? What running back
Speaker 2: is gonna be available? Aaron Jones with Minnesota, they pushed this,
Speaker 2: they pushed this. His date back, okay, could he become available.
Speaker 2: It seems like they want to get something long term done,
Speaker 2: get him again a couple of years. So it's gonna
Speaker 2: be very very interesting to see what the Cowboys do
Speaker 2: at running back position, and free agency will probably kind
Speaker 2: of give you an indicational kind of direction that gonna
Speaker 2: go with in the draft. Oh Joe AJ Brown brought
Speaker 2: a life sized mannequin to put his unwashed Super Bowl
Speaker 2: jersey on display in their home. AJ's longtime girlfriend posted
Speaker 2: a picture on Instagram.
Speaker 1: That's live.
Speaker 2: H point of view, Your boyfriend bouys a sixty two
Speaker 2: mannek had to put his game one Super Bowl un
Speaker 2: and four more.
Speaker 1: He indeed did not watch it. No, you can't watch it.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. That's live man, that's dope. That's that
Speaker 1: has to be one of the greatest feelings.
Speaker 5: And obviously coming from someone who never won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 5: played in one, but never won one, that's something I
Speaker 5: would do.
Speaker 1: That's something I would do.
Speaker 5: And you see for that moment and to be able
Speaker 5: to have it in your house man hanging up like
Speaker 5: that on the man again, full display mouthpiece and all.
Speaker 5: You don't see the mouthpiece he got the mouthpiece on
Speaker 5: helmety and everything.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's live, that's live.
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't have wouldn't have stuff where your super
Speaker 2: Bowl stuff at on the wall.
Speaker 1: Okay okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, on the wall. That's dope.
Speaker 1: That's dope.
Speaker 2: But I don't know somebody because you know they make
Speaker 2: it to jerseys and Baltimore. They gave me both of
Speaker 2: my jersey. Somebody got somebody never got got about thirty
Speaker 2: two and thirty three extra jersey.
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me use the bathroom quick. I don't.
Speaker 2: But I like that. Got a shoe and everything on
Speaker 2: the mannekeut damn man jay uh I I don't know
Speaker 2: what the pants that I ain't Fenn lie and tell
Speaker 2: you now about the pants.
Speaker 1: I know I got the jersey. Uh.
Speaker 2: I gave the super Bowl helmet. I think Darryl Green
Speaker 2: got my super Bowl helmet cause I traded with him.
Speaker 2: I'm almost certain Derel Green got a super Bowl helmet.
Speaker 2: I got my Super Bowl Raven's helmet. It's funny that
Speaker 2: I traded. I remember going to the super Bowl. I
Speaker 2: went to the Pro Bowl. I traded Pro Bowl helmets.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was with Denver. I traded Pro Bowl heal
Speaker 2: with Jonathan Augdor. I got that that original h. I
Speaker 2: don't know Chad who a Ravens fan, but y'all it
Speaker 2: was like a wing or something, but it was it
Speaker 2: was kind of ugly. But Jao I traded with jo
Speaker 2: He and I had the same agent. He was with
Speaker 2: Marvin dem Off as well. So but yeah, I still
Speaker 2: got Obviously my jerseys are hanging up. I got one.
Speaker 2: Hell when I know for sure, I don't know about
Speaker 2: the pants. I don't know what the pants are here?
Speaker 2: Nobody I mean, I mean, the thing was it was
Speaker 2: like the thing was the jersey chore. Nobody even thought
Speaker 2: that jersey and the helmet wasn't nobody thinking about no no,
Speaker 2: no pants?
Speaker 5: Yeah, what about your cliches, because you know you're cleasing
Speaker 5: sometimes you're cleasing me a special pair, you know, especially
Speaker 5: now it's somebody got him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think because like when I played
Speaker 2: like my last couple of years, uh, Nike, maybe Pat Levitcley,
Speaker 2: I remember the time. You know, you had to really
Speaker 2: be somebody to get get a cleak. Not everybody got
Speaker 2: a cleat. Hey, who who are the greatest heat today.
Speaker 2: I was like, dude on special teams and he's been
Speaker 2: to tell me he got your right. How you run
Speaker 2: down on special team and you got Pat Leather Georgans, O, Joe,
Speaker 2: you look good good.
Speaker 1: No, you're on special team.
Speaker 2: You get some get some some three quarters and going
Speaker 2: out there and met the tackle.
Speaker 1: You don't need no little talk, low top cleave Pat Leather. Uh.
Speaker 2: But I was like I was playing the shoot and
Speaker 2: then I was practicing, and I end up giving to
Speaker 2: a teammate.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Where your Super Bowl jer is at?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: At my grandma house. At my grandma house. My little brother,
Speaker 5: my little brother. He got most of my memorabilia. A
Speaker 5: very good friend of mine at Cincinnati. When I left Cincinnati,
Speaker 5: he has most.
Speaker 1: Of my memorabilia. It's just I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: what's wrong with me.
Speaker 5: Once I stopped playing the game of football, I didn't
Speaker 5: really care about memorabilia. I don't I don't have I
Speaker 5: don't really have anything. I don't have anything. Friends of
Speaker 5: mine kind of keep everything. And once I removed myself
Speaker 5: from the game, it wasn't playing it anymore, and I
Speaker 5: was at peace.
Speaker 1: I just let I let everything disperse. Those that know me,
Speaker 1: the volume