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Speaker 2: Supplies are limited. Once they're gone, they're gone. The Hornets

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Speaker 2: They win thanks to twenty nine points from Mile Bridges

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Speaker 2: that really iced the ball game. Lebron misses threes at

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Speaker 2: Lebron scored sixteen in the fourth quarter, but it was

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Speaker 1: Oh joke, Yeah, what do you think? Hey?

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Speaker 5: The last three minutes of that game, uh, the last

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Speaker 5: But anyway, the first half very rusty. Definitely, you could

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Speaker 5: Luke and Lebron early on in the game showed shade

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Speaker 1: Could it can be?

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Speaker 5: Actually, you know those with those fast, great points scores

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Speaker 1: You gotta hit those three throws. You got to hit

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Speaker 5: Give your team a chance to put your team in

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Speaker 2: It's gonna take some getting used to Lebron and Luca

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I that can't happen, right, I got a Christian

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Speaker 2: and Lebron is like, okay, y'all, do y'all thing, and

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it comes down to, A f dik, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Gave y'all enough opportunities. But that third quarter is what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Luca's rusty right now, Oh Joe, you can

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Speaker 5: If he scored in the third quarter, right, and and

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Speaker 5: Has there ever been in a scenario like this where

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Speaker 1: Than what you have on your bench. Now.

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Speaker 2: It's hard when guys start, you know, start missing a year,

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Speaker 2: But they don't they don't really have any they don't.

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Speaker 2: But you tell me, you tell me if a what

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Speaker 2: seems like the Lakers, like the Lakers blew this. You're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's injury.

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Speaker 2: Forget forget Luca being nicked at the start of this season,

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Speaker 1: Y'all miss ad what team wouldn't trade?

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Speaker 2: Uh, Milwaukee probably wouldn't do it because it's reported that

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Speaker 2: But everybody else game, everybody else's game, right, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: So but it's a disappointing loss. These are I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you try to make a if you're trying to

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Speaker 2: that you gonna have to win.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to win.

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Speaker 2: So congratulations to the Hornet they come to La get

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Speaker 2: a victory. One hundred and ninety seven. I would like

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Speaker 1: Than the Hornets, and you didn't win.

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Speaker 2: I wonder what the coach said, because I know what

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Speaker 2: kicking ish it ain't know, Hey guy, you know we

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Speaker 2: just hey, we left some players out there, you know,

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Speaker 2: the fifty fifty balls.

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Speaker 1: Ain't none of that.

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Speaker 2: You lose a game and your coach believed that you

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, cool, losing his mind? What hey, it's honestly,

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Speaker 5: It did.

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Speaker 2: But how many times did Chad how you and y'all

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Speaker 2: the players know that. I don't really know what else

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Speaker 1: Because it's not like we're breaking news. This is not

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Speaker 2: You know you got to open the FBI fousand and

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Speaker 2: unsealed documents. They played terrible in the third quarter, and

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Speaker 2: it has been a real current thing for the last

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the issue is. I don't mean

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Speaker 1: It's on them to figure that issh out.

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Speaker 5: And the funny thing about it is JJ can talk

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Speaker 5: at halftime, they got to be the ones to execute it.

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Speaker 5: They got to be the ones to come out with

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Speaker 2: Look, we know that the problem that the Lakers going

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Speaker 2: they have no no back line of defense. They really

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Speaker 2: got wide open threes and LaMelo iceter game basically with

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Speaker 2: that's on them to figure this out. At some point

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Speaker 2: the third quarter has been there, Bugga boot, They're gonna

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Speaker 2: he wasn't mad at Kad for rejecting to trade a

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Speaker 2: That's not the reason why didn't want to come back.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't want to get traded midway through the season.

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Speaker 5: A little bit A little bit of me believes him, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I think it's failed. Obviously, you know, you think failure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was too And I think I mean for KD,

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Speaker 5: And I think the missing piece for them to get

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Speaker 5: he's gonna scratch, call and do everything he can to

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Speaker 2: I think the thing why Katie was so successful he

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Speaker 2: he had to be a leader. You see Hope, you

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Speaker 2: Steph took care of that. Draymond took care of that,

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Speaker 1: I ain't got to do none of that. I do

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Speaker 1: what I do. I go home and chill. That's what

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Speaker 2: Got the problem with that, A part of it, part

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Speaker 1: They started it off, they thought it was gonna work.

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Speaker 5: will work some magic out there in the West.

436
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 1: And it hasn't worked itself out.

437
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 5: But I just think the fact that he's bounced around

438
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 5: from Brooklyn, you know, went to Golden State. He didn't

439
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 5: want to continue that same trend and be like, here

440
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 5: we go again.

441
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: You know something happened.

442
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 5: At some point when your relationships on you get tired

443
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 5: and moving on man, you get tired of moving.

444
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 1: On him, and sometimes you be like, you know what,

445
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 1: I'm just think this one out.

446
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 5: I know it ain't working, but I'm gonna stick it

447
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 5: out and do it everything I can until it's time

448
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 5: to leave.

449
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 1: And I can tell you what he's leaving in the

450
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: goddamn summer. Okay, So so what did you do?

451
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 2: All you did the lady inevitable you was missering before

452
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 2: another another three four months because they're not going nowhere.

453
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 2: They're not doing anything right right right. They don't have

454
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: any defense. They're just like they're just they're just like

455
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 2: the Lakers. They got no defense. They got all those scores.

456
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you got two guys that really is the

457
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 2: same guy. Book is more athletic now, and I think

458
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 2: he's a better player. I don't think he is. I

459
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 2: know he's a better player than Bradley Bill. But that

460
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 2: saying you got all that scoring, where the defense at

461
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 2: now they get high? You got on a given not

462
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 2: any of those guys can go get thirty or forty.

463
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: Now theyven relegated Bradley Bill to the bench because they're

464
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,719
Speaker 2: hoping he would wave his no trade claws and then

465
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 2: they can trade him and get Jimmy Butler. But he's like, nah,

466
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: I put that in there for a reason. I put

467
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: that in there for a reason. I don't want to

468
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: go anywhere. I hate am I not going anywhere. So

469
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 2: whether you want me or not, you don't. I'm saying,

470
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: no joy. Hey, sometimes it's cheap with a keyboard and

471
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 2: that that's that's that's crazy.

472
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: How that's crazy.

473
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 5: How players You see the leverage NBA players have when

474
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 5: it comes to stuff like that.

475
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: He has a no trade, he don't have no leverage

476
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: on you. He got a new trade clause. He and

477
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: Lebron James one of the two players that have no trade,

478
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 2: so that if he didn't have that, his ass was going.

479
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 1: I know.

480
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 5: That's why I said leverage. That's that's that's all I meant.

481
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 5: But you mean you mean to me you don't want

482
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 5: me because I'm not as playing as well as you

483
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 5: thought I should.

484
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do everything I can.

485
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 5: Obviously, injuries are hampered me performing performing to what we're

486
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 5: used to seeing me play, like and I just got

487
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 5: here and you're trying to get me to uproot my family.

488
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: Man, child, please put this no trade.

489
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 5: Claus in there is in there for a reason that

490
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 5: there's a reason why, because that's the chick.

491
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: Got the man coming off the bench, big got to

492
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 1: coming off the bench. O Joe, Yeah, yeah, that'd be

493
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: like you like, man, we want to move.

494
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: You're like, nah, I ain't going okay, O Yo, you

495
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: the flop? You a third receiver?

496
00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: Now? Third?

497
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: Who you the third receiver? Now you want to be

498
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: talking about Madden? Third receiver? You gotta know trade you

499
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: don't they want to trade you? You don't want to go? Okay,

500
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: you're the third receiver, right, I guess you going there.

501
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 2: I guess you going there. Catch you get your little

502
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: three four targets on Sunday and come on home.

503
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: Hey.

504
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 5: Oh hey, that's a lot of cardio bron, that's a

505
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 5: lot of cardiofs.

506
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: Damn.

507
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't, I don't. I never looked at

508
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 5: it like that. But when you're making that kind of money,

509
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 5: Oh you want me to play?

510
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 6: What?

511
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: Wait?

512
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 5: Let me look at this. How much I'm making and

513
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 5: that's all you want me to do? Okay, bet, I mean.

514
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm not gonna do anything to jeopardize that money,

515
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: right right? Oh yeah, I mean he's Bradley Beal probably

516
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: making forty five fifty million dollars a year. So okay,

517
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: this all, Hey, this all y'all want me to do?

518
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: Get y'all twenty eight minutes a night, thirty minutes a night,

519
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: and ain' really no strain on me because I'm coming

520
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: off the bench.

521
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's going together me coming off the bench.

522
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: A lot of times you coming in there there, you

523
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 2: know that's the second you're going against the second unit.

524
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: So I guess they say you can get your points

525
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: that way because you know the ball is gonna go

526
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: to KD book first. Those are your first two options.

527
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: Bradley Bill has never been a third option. He's always

528
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: been he was he was one two when he had

529
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 2: John Wall. When John Wall left, you know it was

530
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: I guess he had I think he had Russ. No,

531
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: he had Russ for a year or two, but he

532
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: was the first scoring option even though Russ had the

533
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 2: ball in his hand.

534
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: So he's never been like this.

535
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: It's never been a situation where he's not used to

536
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: being able to get as many shots as he want.

537
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 2: He's a third option no matter how you look at it,

538
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: all right, that's what he wanted, the best third options.

539
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you're still the third option.

540
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, even as a starter, and I'm

541
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 5: thinking about it, if I was a starter as the

542
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 5: number one, that's say I was the number one in Cincinnati,

543
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 5: same scenario. I go to New England and I'm the

544
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 5: third or I'm the fourth guy because the option in

545
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 5: front of me are better at that time in that

546
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 5: specific system. That does something to your psyche, you know that, right,

547
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 5: it does something.

548
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: To take your word for it. I mean I wasn't

549
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't know like that. I wasn't no

550
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: third option, no shoe. But I take your word for it.

551
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: I believe.

552
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: Here you go. You know some.

553
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 2: I can't empathize the boy situation. I have a bet

554
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: I have empathy for you. So you know what I'm

555
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: gonna You know, empathy emforthing required you to divorce your ego,

556
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: separate your ego and see yourself in a similar situation.

557
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: So you know what. There you go, I go, yeah, pretend,

558
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: pretend you, Bradley Beald.

559
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: Right, Now I go from somewhere where I'm able to

560
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: play freey now I'm coming off a bench.

561
00:25:59,359 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: Or I can't take.

562
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: I can't take a high volume of shots. So now

563
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm messed up up here. Not only am I messed up.

564
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 5: When I do get on the court, sometimes it might

565
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 5: head to take because I'm not in rhythm.

566
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: That means I shot efficiency in shot selection has to

567
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: be that much better. It something to you. Well, look,

568
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what I think. When I got back,

569
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: I got back to Denver, Rod was clearly the number

570
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 2: one easy. Ed was coming off a severe leg injury.

571
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: So you know it's basically me and Ed fighting for

572
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: two three. But I mean there are some games, so

573
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: you have been in that position where you were the three. No,

574
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: I was always I finished. No, I never finished when

575
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: I was on the team. I never finished. Once I

576
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 2: became what I became, I never finished worse than second

577
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: and catch it on the team.

578
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I understand that. But when you say.

579
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 5: I meet, I hear you. You're talking from a statistical standpoint. Yeah,

580
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 5: I'm just saying you were that, you were three, No

581
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 5: matter what, I was not the three.

582
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: I was then Rod Smith and McCaffrey with the one

583
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 2: with the one here, Rod was one. I was too

584
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: and I was too a it was to be. I

585
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about. It sounds good, it

586
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: sounds hey. They tell y'all better you better check, you

587
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: better check it. It sound how hey? You tell me

588
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: the time you've seen a third receiver? Get to fourteen

589
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: to the game. What happened when somebody hurt you? I mean,

590
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: what third receiver?

591
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: You know? Just say it.

592
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: I got you, I got your listen, listen. But but look,

593
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: I understand. But for me, oh Joe, they're like, man,

594
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: dang man, hey, you ain't catching no passes. And then

595
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: they used to say, bro, I got to.

596
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: Check the father. It's clear. Mh that's on y'all. I'm

597
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: gonna make the same out of Monch. See.

598
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: The thing that I love about this is that I'm

599
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: gonna make the I don't get paid by the catch.

600
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't get paid by the touchdown. Y'all want to

601
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: throw me t y'all want to give me ten targets, right, fine,

602
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: if you want to give me three targets, I'm gonna

603
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: make the same amount of money. So I ain't stressing out,

604
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: I said, I'm too old now now. If y'all would

605
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: have got me when I was in my twenties, I

606
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: would have got me in my damn thirty. I got kid, man,

607
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get all this money i'm sumold to get.

608
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: I ain't giving me, y'all issh back in a year

609
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: or two. I'm gonna take my black ass home anyway,

610
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: So y'all have ad it. I ain't get man, I'm

611
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 2: not stressing out by catching no passes. I'm gonna make

612
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: the same amount of money. Oh Joe, I'm gonna make

613
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: the same. So it wasn't no strain on me. Y'all

614
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: throw it to me. I'm gonna catch it. If you don't,

615
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: you know a eighty four we probably should have gave

616
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: you a more bro the game over. Y'all telling me

617
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: what y'all should have done. They don't do it. Who

618
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: the helping? All of this should make y'all mad, because

619
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: that's what y'all get paid for. My job is not

620
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: to tell you what I'm open on yo, y'all have

621
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: said mm hm, y'all tell me. Let the coaches coach

622
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: the players gonna play. I'm playing. I ain't calling no players. Now,

623
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: what I would get mad about to come for a quarter?

624
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: Eighty four?

625
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: What you? Uh uh?

626
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: What you like our life for this game to be

627
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: over with? Y'all been bull y'all been bullguing for three

628
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: and a half quarters. That's what I would like. I

629
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: would like this game to be over with and so

630
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: I can go on and get out. Hey, nah, don't

631
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: be asking me no question. Now, Hey, y'all gonna spread

632
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: it around. You know we're gonna spread it around this week.

633
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: You know, aid Ed be ready, Rod be ready, y'all

634
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 2: be ready backside of the backfield. Now, all that spreading

635
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: around is ain't work right, hey, eighty four? What you

636
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: what you like our life for this ish to be

637
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: over with?

638
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: Y'all? Come, I can I can pitch you saying that too. Yeah.

639
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: Now, now all of a sudden, O yoke. We got

640
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: five minutes left, We down fourteen. What I hated being

641
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: in that situation, man, I hated getting no empty calories

642
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: because when the game was mel tung hung in the balance.

643
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: Now we got four minutes, we down fourteen, we're on

644
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: the ten yard line.

645
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: What you look at? What you like?

646
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I'd like to have more opportunities in the first

647
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: three quarter. No, y'all keep calling. Y'all keep calling. Y'all

648
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: cant calling what y'all was calling. Just bad ad, Hey, hey,

649
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: bad plead. Y'all lifit to get my blood pressure up.

650
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: I learned a long time ago. O yoe like I said.

651
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: That's why I stopped putting in centence in my contract.

652
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: Once I realized they can manipulate that and jacked me

653
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: out of my one hundred grand I said, Man, I

654
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: wish I might.

655
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm not putting another incentive.

656
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: They couldn't give me a million dollars in my in

657
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: my contract to go to the Pro Bowl or lead

658
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: the team because y'all.

659
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: What y'all paying me.

660
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: I should do everything that y'all trying to incentivize without

661
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: the highest payd tight end. I should leave my team

662
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: and receive it. I should go to the Pro Bowl.

663
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: I should be an all pro. I don't need no incident.

664
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: Y'all messed with that. Give me my money. I want

665
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: all my money. Hey, I ain't got nothing money saying

666
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: it won't you got not one even if I come

667
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: to work on time. No, that ain't nohing said it

668
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: for me. If I make weight. Nope, I don't want

669
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: that either. Nope, I don't.

670
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: M hm. Put it all, put it all in there. Yep.

671
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: Give me everything I'm supposed to get. Hey, Shannon, they're

672
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: gonna pay you over seventeen weeks. This is what you ay.

673
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: This is how much you make it. Okay, I'm cool

674
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: with that. But man, I've been stopped worried about that.

675
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: Oh yo, comes many when they jacked me out of me,

676
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: when they jacked me out of them?

677
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: What you call them? Said?

678
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: Man? Man, y'all, ain't finna make me do something bad

679
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: to somebody up in here. Listen, that's the game they play, now,

680
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: that's the game they play. An anonymous NBA GM called

681
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: out Adam Silver. Adam Silver is obsessed with tournaments lay

682
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: in in season, not all Star. They're they're not proven

683
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: to benefit our league.

684
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, what's your think?

685
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 5: I mean, the head guy saying that the tournaments trying

686
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 5: to create excitement, trying to create viewers globally as well,

687
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 5: and it's not benefiting the league. It's not benefiting the players.

688
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: How is it not the n Cedon tournament.

689
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 5: Isn't the n Ceding tournament allowing the players to make

690
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 5: extra money and benefit them by having it being played

691
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 5: in season.

692
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: Well, I guess they're trying to drum up support because

693
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: here's the thing, Oh, Joe Love, you got eleven You

694
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: got eleven what seventy seven billion over the next seven

695
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: eleven years, and so we got it because here's the thing.

696
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: Is kind of like soccer, you man, you know, soccer

697
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: got all the tournament. They got you copah and this

698
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: one and that one.

699
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, champion, yes, yes.

700
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: So I think that's what you know, uh adamble Commission

701
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: is trying to get a playoff that.

702
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: The playing tournament. I mean, people didn't like that.

703
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: People thought, look, I remember one time when the three

704
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: point competition was started.

705
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: Gimmick, I mean the three point shot.

706
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: They're like, man, it's a gimmick right now, Look, everything

707
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: is a gimmick until you get used to it.

708
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: The forward pass was a gimmick, right yes, ford ps like,

709
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: what do you do? That's a game? Man?

710
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: No, that ain't gonna be now. Can you imagine a

711
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: game of football without the forward pass or jo wouldn't

712
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: make no sense, It would make zero sense. So look,

713
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: I get what I get what Commission's trying to do.

714
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: He's trying to do anything he possibly can to get

715
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: eyeballs to the television to watch these games.

716
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

717
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: And so to play in tournament, I mean to play

718
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: in tournaments are always good, you know teams like look,

719
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: normally one through eight you made the tournament. You know

720
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 2: where you are. But now eight through ten you gotta

721
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: play what? No? No, yeah, no, seven? Ept no, what

722
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: is it? Seven play? Ten and eight nine play? And

723
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: then that winner, those two winners play each other. And

724
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: that's so whoever wins there the seventh seed and then

725
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: the next two is the is the winner is the

726
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: eight seed. But I get, I get what commissions trying

727
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: to do. I get what I really do. Ocho, Uh,

728
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: you gotta try something. I mean, you got this kind

729
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: of money at stake, you gotta try something. Yeah, I

730
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: mean the only thing that I can deal I can

731
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: deal with all of the only thing I don't like

732
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: the All Star. I don't like the All Star.

733
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, the format is not not what it

734
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: should be.

735
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 5: In the gym that's playing in the gym, that's complaining

736
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 5: about what what Adam Silver is doing.

737
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: Why don't the gms have ideas as well? Why don't

738
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: they have ideas to continue to grow the game.

739
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 5: Why don't they have ideas that they run by Silver

740
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 5: saying listen, I think we can do this. The players

741
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 5: will benefit from it, us as owners will benefit from it,

742
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 5: and those that are watching they'll enjoy it. Instead of

743
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 5: saying or non the source complaining about what Silver is

744
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 5: actually doing.

745
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: Well, rest is so David Stern, You're like, look, y'all

746
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: going to either play or we're going to call back

747
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 2: some of this money?

748
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: Which one you want? Be really that simple?

749
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: You shouldn't have to beg guys to play hard, oh, Joe,

750
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 2: if you're making one fifty two hundred three hundred million dollars.

751
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: I don't really think it's asking too much. I really don't.

752
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: Now I could be wrong. Chat and y'all might be

753
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: totally disagree. Oh the season too long, and YadA, YadA, YadA.

754
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: I get all that.

755
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: The season isn't.

756
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: Any longer than what it was the last fifty years.

757
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 2: How long have they been playing eighty two games forever

758
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: at a day? So this notion about all the games

759
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: will know it's not, No, it's not. These guys should

760
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: be in better shape because they have they know better,

761
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: they got better training, they got better nutrition. They got

762
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: spell supplementation, They got around the clock physios and trainers

763
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: and YadA YadA YadA. They got chefs that prepare their

764
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: food and cook whatever. So there's no excuse to play hard,

765
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 2: to ask you to play harder. You making three hundred million,

766
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: O Joe, damn, I.

767
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: Got let me get. I don't an knee. I on't

768
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: even need three hundred. You gave me one, Give me

769
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: one fifty. I would play hard.

770
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: Give me cause you know what, on Joe, I remember

771
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: working hard when I was making five.

772
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: Dollars a day. Come on, man, talk to me.

773
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: I remember working I remember working hard, making ten making

774
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: sixteen catching a thousand chickens, making a dollar a thousand,

775
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: catch sixteen thousand chicken, sixteen dollars. I worked hard for

776
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: that little bit of money. What the hell you think

777
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: I do for ten million? It's twenty million thirty let

778
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: alone three hundred and.

779
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 5: If you think about it, I think if players, when

780
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 5: they make that kind of money, if they understood and

781
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 5: never forgot where you came from before you had that

782
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 5: kind of money, and what you did to get to

783
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 5: where you are. I think sometimes they lose sight of

784
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 5: that though they do. I really do you know money?

785
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: Money are changing now?

786
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: It changed. Sometimes it change you for the better, sometime

787
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: it change you for the worst.

788
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: I think sometimes money makes you more what you already are.

789
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: What are you? Oht your at your core? What are

790
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: you when you don't have it? Because now when you

791
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 2: get it, it exacerbates what you already are.

792
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: But that's a good one, every boy. That's why people

793
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: beat up even bro.

794
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: If you got an eating problem and you on a

795
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: college budget, what happens if I give you ten, fifteen,

796
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars?

797
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, hey, but at that.

798
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

799
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: Money, no money. Oh he changed what he got.

800
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: But know he wasn't. He was always that. He just

801
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: needed the money for y'all to see in his true self. Right,

802
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: I saw that was changed. He's always been this he

803
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: or she. I'm not gonna say he'll just just he.

804
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: He or she?

805
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: Ever.

806
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 5: Woman women as well, sometimes they ain't gotta be money.

807
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 5: Sometimes it gonna be intention. Well, you know what happened

808
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 5: when you get that you never had it before, and

809
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 5: he started getting from everywhere.

810
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: You get your big head.

811
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 5: You know, you start feeling yourself, you know, you start overvaluing.

812
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: The boy.

813
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, I've been I I get what Adam is

814
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: trying to do. Adam is trying to grow the game,

815
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: trying to because you know, soccer have these in season

816
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: tournaments and all this stuff. We saw what hockey just

817
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: had the what is that called the something for making

818
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: for nations or something.

819
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: What they call it was spilling Sweden, Sweden and the US. Yeah.

820
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: See, but one thing hockey, hockey. They be playing hard.

821
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: They've had it once. Once you touch that ice, you

822
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: strap up, you strap up. They they they they listen,

823
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: you know what time it is? I think, Oh, Joe,

824
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: I think, I think a lot. I think the difference

825
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: Adam Adam and the players. He viewsed the players as

826
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 2: players as partners. Right, they start me in that partner.

827
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: I'm partner. I'm partner with the the owners. We partners.

828
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You'll employees, right, just like the NFL.

829
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: The partners are the broadcast networks in the NFL, the

830
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: employees are the players players, right, And they don't let you.

831
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: They don't let you forget it as such. Uh and

832
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: if you do forget, they will remind you. They remind you.

833
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: He remind you, They remind you.

834
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they definitely remind Yojoe.

835
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: The legendary LG, the original l G. Now we got

836
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: a little l G.

837
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: Ladadias by Dog wants Michael Parsons to stop podcasting and

838
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: put his focus on football. He's a great player, but guys,

839
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: let's do more. Let's play more football less podcast. Michael

840
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: in particular, he'll have a movie, an action movie, The

841
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: brother Got It, but don't forget where you are at.

842
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: Listen.

843
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 5: I like LT and anything coming from one of the greatest,

844
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 5: if not the greatest, of all time, especially on the

845
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 5: deepensive end.

846
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,959
Speaker 1: And he's talking about of one of the greats right now.

847
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 5: I agree, but I kind of disagree, especially with the

848
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 5: times that we're in right now. Michael Parsons, he plays

849
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 5: really well. He plays at a very high level along

850
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 5: with his podcast. The podcast doesn't take anything away from

851
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 5: him on the actual football field.

852
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: Between the lines.

853
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 5: When the whistleblows, you know what you're getting with he left.

854
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 5: You know what you getting from every time.

855
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: Now when you look at them defensively, you'll say, well,

856
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: they got some weak spots.

857
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: Well, Michael only played in one spot. He can't be everywhere.

858
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 7: Sometimes he's stretched lines sometimes, you know, sometimes they go

859
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 7: down in the three. Sometimes they got him sit down

860
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 7: there and sitting down there in the box at a

861
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 7: linebacker position, moving around trying to find ways because he's

862
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 7: good in space.

863
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: Real will stop lying all that part. Oh, were gonna

864
00:41:58,719 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: have it. We're gonna have it. We're gonna have a

865
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: Ravens defense. We're gonna have a Sea Offs defense. But

866
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: he's supposed to say that.

867
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: You know, you don't. You ain't got to say nothing.

868
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: Keep your mind shut on your No, you don't.

869
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: You've got to stop telling these guys they got to

870
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: say something.

871
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: They did. But you have to believe in your team

872
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: and who who you playing? Yourself? So how did okay,

873
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: he says what he said? Okay, we're gonna win. When

874
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: he don't win, how to make him look Ojo? Well,

875
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: it make him look crazy. But you know, you know,

876
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: can I say something real quick?

877
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 5: Yes? And say he say something crazy all the time, right, Michael,

878
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 5: Michael Parson's been talking crazy all season? It's you know

879
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 5: this season when the Cowboys do play, you know, you

880
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 5: know who do show up? What's off in the passing game?

881
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: What about when they get the ball run down the throat?

882
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 5: Hey, you know they run away from you, mam, They.

883
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: Ran away from LT. What do you do You're right

884
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: away from Reggie. Yeah, right, you're right. Listen, I mean listen,

885
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: I mean l T. Has I understand we're in the time.

886
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: We're in a different era. You know.

887
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: Some guys they like to talk about the game of

888
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: talk about the game of football after it's being played.

889
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 5: They focus on it when they're at it, but in

890
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 5: they're off time, they have podcasts. That's just where we

891
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 5: are right now. Are things going to change if he

892
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 5: stopped doing this podcast and all of a sudden he

893
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 5: can I mean no, Michael Parsons is a player that

894
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 5: he is. He's one of the great ones in the

895
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 5: NFL right now at what he does, and it's just

896
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 5: it just it's just it is what it is. I like,

897
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 5: I like his opinions.

898
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: Tan got a podcast that that's not that's got a

899
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: podcast that's not him. Defends Player of the Year, but

900
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 2: that's not him. You're you're you're calling there, let me finish.

901
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 5: You call the names that are good at what they

902
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 5: do at their pacific positions, but that's not what they

903
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 5: want to do.

904
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: Michael Parson wants to have a podcast because he likes

905
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: to talk.

906
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: Some guys want to win if some guys want to beat,

907
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: some guys want to be famous and promote themselves. Now

908
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: which one you want to be? Because see, the quickest

909
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: way to brand, to build a brand, is to win.

910
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan brand, what is it? Matthew Johnson brand?

911
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: What is it? Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes? What

912
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: was that?

913
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: Joe Montana? What were their brands based on? Joe Lebron,

914
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 2: James Steph Curry. Hey, you heard everybody is name, You

915
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: heard everybody's his name?

916
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: Right.

917
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 5: They were ball dominant and were in control of those

918
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 5: wins and losses. You talked about the defense that you

919
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 5: talk about the defensive player, you talk about the defense

920
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 5: end that can change the trajectory of a game. But

921
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 5: had nothing to do with wins and losses. Oh but

922
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 5: he definitely does did so? Lt didn't impact the game?

923
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: Come on, man, we know that, we know. Okay, what

924
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: about ray Lewis? Did he impact the game? Of course?

925
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: What about Prime? I gay, y'all care? What about Prime?

926
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: How was Prime? How was Prime's brand? What did that?

927
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: You say that, yeah, he.

928
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 5: Could impact the game, though, because you know Michael Parsons

929
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 5: don't impact the game.

930
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm just asking you oh, I know a lot of

931
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: guys to impact the game.

932
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: We just you You do realize we ain't talking about

933
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: no slous now we talk about no.

934
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 2: But there's been a lot of guys to impact the game.

935
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: There have been guys that impact the game less, but

936
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: one more. Ain't got a bigger plan for Come what

937
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying this is the team game.

938
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: I just I just wanted to just say to remember

939
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: that now.

940
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: All the game the team you mentioned Prime, do you

941
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: see what team Prime was playing for?

942
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: Do you see what else was around him while he

943
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 1: was doing what he was doing?

944
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: Guess what they went and got Prime? Jeffery Cisco said,

945
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: you know what, we can't beat Dallas. We gotta go

946
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: get pride. They ain't got pride. What did the Cowboys do?

947
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: Go get it back?

948
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, it ain't that complicated, though, Joe.

949
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 2: I'm just look, I'm with.

950
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: You, mean you right, I'm I'm with you? Are you right?

951
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: But also we're in a different time right now, different

952
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: we are.

953
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: I think the thing, Oh, Joe, I think the thing

954
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: is it's like, look, Michael wants to have a career

955
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: after football, and it seems to be he wants it

956
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: to be on the media side, no problem whatsoever. And

957
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: I think what he's doing, he's starting out because I

958
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: had I had, I had a radio show when I

959
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: was in when I was in Denver started I think

960
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: I started in like ninety six. My got Don Martin.

961
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: I know you watching the show. He was at I

962
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: Heeart Radio for a number of years.

963
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: I don't know.

964
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if Don is still there, but he

965
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: was my producer. So Don and I we go way back,

966
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: and so I kind of like, I really didn't know

967
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: what what I'm gonna do, but I'm like, hey, they like,

968
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: would you like to do a radio show? Like, yeah,

969
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: how much y'all playing? He wasn't paying a whole lot

970
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: o shoe, but it gave him an opportunity to talk.

971
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: When they asked me to, you know, come in to

972
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: do the local news, I held, I do that, but

973
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: all right, and so I knew I would go I

974
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 2: could do something in the media.

975
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: I was always very candid, very straightforward.

976
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: But I don't think they're they're ever a doubt that

977
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: anybody that ever been with me. Ask my teammates. Football

978
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: was at the frowfront. Anything that interfered with that wasn't

979
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: gonna happen. So my my radio show show was I

980
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 2: would take it after Friday's practice, go in there, hit

981
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: that thing for about twenty five minutes.

982
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done. That's that's it for me.

983
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: Uh. It had been very interesting old show. And Peter,

984
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: I've gotten asked this question. If you were playing in today,

985
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: would you have a podcast?

986
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

987
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, I'm too I can't. I have a singular focus.

988
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: I'm only I've only been good at a handful of things,

989
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: but not never simultaneously.

990
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: M hm. That's why I'm not married.

991
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: I was either I was good at football and a

992
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 2: terrible boyfriend. Either I was a great boyfriend, I would

993
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: be terrible at football. So guess what you want. I

994
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: had to go, Hey, hey, Brack, but you talking now,

995
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: hear me. I'm just being I'm just. I'm just, I.

996
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: Just, I just.

997
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: I'm just honest, O, Joe, I'm just honest. And that's why.

998
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: So I have a singular focus. If you notice, when

999
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm good at something, i'm great at it because I'm

1000
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: all in. Ain't no he ain't no handling gretel. I

1001
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 2: don't save no broid crumb for the trip home, won't, Joe.

1002
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: I'm lost, right, I'm lost, don't, Yoe. I ain't got

1003
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: no navigation on how to get back. All I know

1004
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: is is once straight ahead, I'm going. We're going that way.

1005
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get people to be with me that believe

1006
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: in I believe in the vision, and we're gonna go

1007
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: get it done. Yes, hum, But that's just me, Like

1008
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: I said, I think, see, the biggest mistake that we

1009
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: make is that we try to see ourselves than other people. Right,

1010
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: that's my biggest mistake. That's my biggest mistake.

1011
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: It is.

1012
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: And and I'm i gotta talk because I think I

1013
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: can say I owe yo, honestly, I think I.

1014
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: Can save everybody. And you know, hey, hey man, can

1015
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: you do sure? No problem? Call Shelley, Hey man, we

1016
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: got this, Paul Shelley.

1017
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: And you know, if twenty five, here's fifty thousand, there's

1018
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand here and and and and my, my, my, my,

1019
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: Marvin Marvin done my who's my agent and he's been

1020
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: my right hand man for twenty nine years.

1021
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, he said, you got to stop this.

1022
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, he said, I understand, He said, I

1023
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: understand you better than most right, I'm an eighty three

1024
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: I think, he said, eighty three eighty four year old

1025
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: George guy. He said, but I know you, And he said,

1026
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: but you got to stop this year. He said, you

1027
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: can't save everybody. He said, you got too bad. You

1028
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: said you got too big of a heart.

1029
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, saying I learned that quick and most and most

1030
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 5: of the time, you know that I learned quick. No

1031
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 5: matter how much you do, sometimes they forget about the

1032
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 5: first time you say no, every bad I just they

1033
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 5: forget about it. They forget about all the time you

1034
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 5: say yes. And I think that's mine, always trying to

1035
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 5: save a feeling I can, I can come in and

1036
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 5: put my cap on, or I got you. Don't worry

1037
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 5: about it. I got you. And every time on the

1038
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 5: back end, you end up regretting it. Every time, I oh, Joe,

1039
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 5: I don't regret it.

1040
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of times I give I give

1041
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,479
Speaker 2: the charities, but a lot of times but I give it.

1042
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: But like I said, on you, I give it.

1043
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: I give with I don't have any expectations, right, get

1044
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: anything back?

1045
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: Right? Right?

1046
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: Nothing, absolutely nothing. And Shelley called me the other day

1047
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: and says, uh, I said, what's up? Well, you need

1048
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: to stop getting away so much money. Yeah, I said, Shelley,

1049
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: you called out of the blue with that. She's like, yeah,

1050
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: so okay. And then I don't know if she talked

1051
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: to Marvin or Marvin called her, but he had the

1052
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: conversation with me today. So I'm done. I can't help everybody,

1053
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I'm done trying. Yeah, I'm done. I'm done.

1054
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 2: I'm done. Yeah.

1055
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: Another because I.

1056
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: Don't have federal government capabilities, I can't just print money

1057
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: to stimulate the economy. I gotta make my money. I'm

1058
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: talking about it, literally, make my money old fashionable. I

1059
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 2: can't go print it. Brian, I'm good. I'm done, So

1060
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 2: don't ask. The answer is no. Moving forward, what's today, it's.

1061
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: A twenty eight to nineteen February nineteen. Now it's a twenty.

1062
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: It's the twenty.

1063
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: Where you are, so if you were, if you if

1064
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: you were in the Eastern time zone, no, if you're

1065
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: in the Western, if you're the Pacific time zone. In

1066
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: an hour and forty minute, the answer will be no.

1067
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: If my fathers going about to be off, so don't

1068
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 2: call me. No, hell no, oh Joe. The Cowboys overhauled

1069
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 2: their coaching staff this offseason, party ways with Mike McCarthy

1070
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 2: and promoting O C. Brian Schottenneimer. The Cowboys hired Arizona

1071
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: Carter's officsive line coach Clayton Adams for the open OC roll.

1072
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: Here's what Adam wants to see in the offense, the

1073
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: same thing I want to see, the same thing I

1074
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: want from every player on offense, and that is to

1075
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: create violence in the game. Be aggressive, run, hit. I

1076
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: think every decision that we made schematically needs to lean

1077
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: into that direction. So if there's a gray area, what

1078
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,479
Speaker 2: is going to allow these guys to play more free

1079
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 2: and run and hit and be violent. Oh Joe, do

1080
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: you think the Cowboys will be able to create a

1081
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: violent offense next year?

1082
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 5: I mean no, Violence always starts at the forefront, right

1083
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 5: up front. It starts in the trenches. That's where the

1084
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 5: violence needs to come from. That's where the violet needs

1085
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 5: to come from. It starts with the front, the front five.

1086
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 5: They got to set the tone. That's where it comes from.

1087
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 5: Everything else is built off what that offensive line does,

1088
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 5: So that's where that's where it comes in at.

1089
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: So how is the offensive line going to be?

1090
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: Because everything he just reiterated everything he just said, is

1091
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: not going to be possible unless it's exactly like I'm

1092
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: just gonna throw I'm just gonna throw it out there,

1093
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: like the Eagles, m like the Ravens.

1094
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: You're right, that's it.

1095
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: Everything you want to do, whatever you set your eyes to,

1096
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: whatever you come into the off season or into the

1097
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 2: season saying you want to do offensively, it all starts

1098
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: with your officers line.

1099
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: If you ain't got that and they ain't got that, mentality, no,

1100
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: it ain't.

1101
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,479
Speaker 2: Front the back, o yoe. You build front the back,

1102
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: old line back, d line back. Yeah you say that,

1103
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 2: but that's a mentality. You got it, But it's I mean,

1104
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: I take my head off the teams like the Eagles,

1105
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: who I don't know how much they hit, but they've

1106
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: taken a lot of the physicality out of it.

1107
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: Oh your cause, you can't practice like that.

1108
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: Where's the practice we had nine on sevene Hey we're

1109
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: putting you know, we're putting pads on people.

1110
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's hard.

1111
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: Can you you go out there and you do and

1112
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: walk through them all of a sudden, Hey turn it up?

1113
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: Turn what up?

1114
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 2: But it was a mindset, Oh we about you about

1115
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: to Hey, hey we moved a man against his will.

1116
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 2: Will think about that chat, think about what you say.

1117
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 2: You said, so, hey, get off my porch. I ain't

1118
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: going nowhere the hell you say you're fin the lead

1119
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: here and you do that over and over, O Joe,

1120
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: you gotta quit. Somebody quit today, and that's what Jack quit.

1121
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 5: By the time you get to the fourth quarter, they

1122
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 5: gonna quit, they gonna fold.

1123
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: I ain't.

1124
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: I ain't quitting. Yeah, for sure. I gotta make you

1125
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: turn it down because see, I know how you run. Okay,

1126
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: cause back you know, back when we played, O Joe,

1127
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: we rolled your ass up.

1128
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: We were cutting.

1129
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 2: And I know you're getting up quick at the first quarter. Oh,

1130
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: hold Joe, they get a quick, Oh yeah, getting up.

1131
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: Hey. Hey, I'm still making.

1132
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 2: The players okay, okay, John top second, Hey the second quarter,

1133
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: old Joe, Hey, I'm still here sharp. Third quarter, bastay

1134
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: on my knees. Fourth quarter, he ain't nowhere to be

1135
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: ain't nowhere to be seen. But you got the It's

1136
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: easy to talk about something, O Joe. It's a lot

1137
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: more difficult to do it.

1138
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. The coaches.

1139
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 5: The coach could talk on the world to the coach

1140
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 5: can talk, he can he can talk, so he turned

1141
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 5: blue in the face. But unless you have the personnel

1142
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 5: and the players that have the mentality that you're regurgitating.

1143
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 6: The mentality that you talk about, man, that ain't they ain't.

1144
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 6: You ain't talking about nothing. You ain't talking about nothing.

1145
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 6: What you have is what you have right now. You

1146
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 6: can say whatever you want.

1147
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 5: You know your team, you know your personnel, So you

1148
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 5: gotta be careful what you said with your ass for

1149
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 5: because they're not built like that all of a sudden.

1150
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 5: Just because you have an off season don't mean they're

1151
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 5: coming back completely different next year.

1152
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: You are who you are, you know.

1153
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach Martin has been in Wars and he's been

1154
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 2: in one of the premier guards. He's one of the

1155
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: best guards that ever played this game. But he's had

1156
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: a lot of He got a lot of miles on

1157
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: that body. Ojoe, he's not the same guy. Yeah, you know,

1158
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith had a lot of miles on his body.

1159
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: They let him go.

1160
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: H Still, they they they started to suffer when Travis

1161
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: Frederick had to retire prematurely mm hm.

1162
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: And they got guys now they're not they're not built

1163
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: like that. They not built like that. They can't run

1164
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: the football.

1165
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 2: See you and you how you know you violent when

1166
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: you can run the football. Yeah, that's where violence come

1167
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: in at absolutely look at it.

1168
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: He look at teams that can run the football. They're

1169
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: in a violent group.

1170
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 5: Notice when I talked about offenser lines, the first thing

1171
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 5: I said was Eagles, and I said Ravens. Yeah, everybody

1172
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 5: against the will when they playing getting Royd and not

1173
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 5: changing nothing regards to who they play.

1174
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: Detroit is another one. Oh yeah, Oh, I forgot to

1175
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: put the sulin and boys.

1176
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: They don't they don't play no. So it's interesting. I'm

1177
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: asked to see what they do. I'm gonna see if

1178
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to run the football down. Dell

1179
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: Is ric o'donald is a is a free agent. We

1180
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: don't see what they're gonna do an they running back

1181
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: position right, well, you know Zeke won't be back because

1182
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: they already let Zeke go. So now do they go

1183
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: into the draft. Do they get genty? I think they

1184
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 2: picked twelve thirteen. Will genty be available that that'd be

1185
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: a good one. Uh what running back? What running back

1186
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: is gonna be available? Aaron Jones with Minnesota, they pushed this,

1187
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: they pushed this. His date back, okay, could he become available.

1188
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: It seems like they want to get something long term done,

1189
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: get him again a couple of years. So it's gonna

1190
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: be very very interesting to see what the Cowboys do

1191
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: at running back position, and free agency will probably kind

1192
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 2: of give you an indicational kind of direction that gonna

1193
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: go with in the draft. Oh Joe AJ Brown brought

1194
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: a life sized mannequin to put his unwashed Super Bowl

1195
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: jersey on display in their home. AJ's longtime girlfriend posted

1196
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: a picture on Instagram.

1197
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: That's live.

1198
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: H point of view, Your boyfriend bouys a sixty two

1199
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: mannek had to put his game one Super Bowl un

1200
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: and four more.

1201
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: He indeed did not watch it. No, you can't watch it.

1202
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: Don't do that. That's live man, that's dope. That's that

1203
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: has to be one of the greatest feelings.

1204
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 5: And obviously coming from someone who never won the Super Bowl,

1205
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 5: played in one, but never won one, that's something I

1206
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 5: would do.

1207
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: That's something I would do.

1208
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 5: And you see for that moment and to be able

1209
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 5: to have it in your house man hanging up like

1210
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 5: that on the man again, full display mouthpiece and all.

1211
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 5: You don't see the mouthpiece he got the mouthpiece on

1212
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 5: helmety and everything.

1213
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's live, that's live.

1214
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't have wouldn't have stuff where your super

1215
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: Bowl stuff at on the wall.

1216
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: Okay okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, on the wall. That's dope.

1217
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: That's dope.

1218
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: But I don't know somebody because you know they make

1219
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: it to jerseys and Baltimore. They gave me both of

1220
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 2: my jersey. Somebody got somebody never got got about thirty

1221
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: two and thirty three extra jersey.

1222
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me use the bathroom quick. I don't.

1223
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 2: But I like that. Got a shoe and everything on

1224
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 2: the mannekeut damn man jay uh I I don't know

1225
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: what the pants that I ain't Fenn lie and tell

1226
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 2: you now about the pants.

1227
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: I know I got the jersey. Uh.

1228
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: I gave the super Bowl helmet. I think Darryl Green

1229
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: got my super Bowl helmet cause I traded with him.

1230
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: I'm almost certain Derel Green got a super Bowl helmet.

1231
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: I got my Super Bowl Raven's helmet. It's funny that

1232
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: I traded. I remember going to the super Bowl. I

1233
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: went to the Pro Bowl. I traded Pro Bowl helmets.

1234
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 4: One.

1235
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was with Denver. I traded Pro Bowl heal

1236
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: with Jonathan Augdor. I got that that original h. I

1237
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: don't know Chad who a Ravens fan, but y'all it

1238
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: was like a wing or something, but it was it

1239
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: was kind of ugly. But Jao I traded with jo

1240
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: He and I had the same agent. He was with

1241
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 2: Marvin dem Off as well. So but yeah, I still

1242
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: got Obviously my jerseys are hanging up. I got one.

1243
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: Hell when I know for sure, I don't know about

1244
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 2: the pants. I don't know what the pants are here?

1245
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: Nobody I mean, I mean, the thing was it was

1246
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: like the thing was the jersey chore. Nobody even thought

1247
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: that jersey and the helmet wasn't nobody thinking about no no,

1248
01:01:58,520 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 2: no pants?

1249
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, what about your cliches, because you know you're cleasing

1250
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 5: sometimes you're cleasing me a special pair, you know, especially

1251
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 5: now it's somebody got him.

1252
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think because like when I played

1253
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: like my last couple of years, uh, Nike, maybe Pat Levitcley,

1254
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: I remember the time. You know, you had to really

1255
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: be somebody to get get a cleak. Not everybody got

1256
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 2: a cleat. Hey, who who are the greatest heat today.

1257
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: I was like, dude on special teams and he's been

1258
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 2: to tell me he got your right. How you run

1259
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: down on special team and you got Pat Leather Georgans, O, Joe,

1260
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: you look good good.

1261
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: No, you're on special team.

1262
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: You get some get some some three quarters and going

1263
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: out there and met the tackle.

1264
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: You don't need no little talk, low top cleave Pat Leather. Uh.

1265
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 2: But I was like I was playing the shoot and

1266
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: then I was practicing, and I end up giving to

1267
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: a teammate.

1268
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Where your Super Bowl jer is at?

1269
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 6: Uh?

1270
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 5: At my grandma house. At my grandma house. My little brother,

1271
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 5: my little brother. He got most of my memorabilia. A

1272
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 5: very good friend of mine at Cincinnati. When I left Cincinnati,

1273
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 5: he has most.

1274
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: Of my memorabilia. It's just I don't I don't know

1275
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: what's wrong with me.

1276
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,439
Speaker 5: Once I stopped playing the game of football, I didn't

1277
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 5: really care about memorabilia. I don't I don't have I

1278
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 5: don't really have anything. I don't have anything. Friends of

1279
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 5: mine kind of keep everything. And once I removed myself

1280
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 5: from the game, it wasn't playing it anymore, and I

1281
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 5: was at peace.

1282
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: I just let I let everything disperse. Those that know me,

1283
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: the volume