1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 2: Friday edition of the Clay Travis en Buck Sexton Show 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: kicks off now, just Buck today. That would be me 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Clay on a deserved vacation. 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: With the fam. He'll be back on Tuesday. 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 2: So you and I get to a rock out together 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: here on Friday and on Monday. We hope play's having 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: a great time. We got a lot of news to 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: get to with all of you. We're going to dive 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: into the Trump trial momentarily. A lot going on there 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: is actually just speaking to a friend of mine who's 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: been covering the trial, showing up there at the courthouse 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: day in and day out. Trump calls out RFK Junior 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: and not on the abortion. 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Issue, which was interesting. To be sure. 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: We'll have updates on twenty twenty four, how the polls 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: are looking, how the race is going so far, more 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: on the campus protest, Israel Hamas war, and some other 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: odds and ends we will throw into the mix today. 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: I remember the lines were open eight hundred and two, 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: Ay two two eight A two. I love chatting with you, 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: especially on a Friday, so light up those lines. Okay, 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: we have this Trump trial, and I'll start with this. 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: Yesterday I saw a friend of mine here in Florida 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 2: on the street, and uh, he was walking a chow chow, 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: which I gotta tell you, I had realized this. I 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: knew what a chow chow was. I had never actually 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: met one in person before. They're very very particular looking, dog, 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: very sweet. But I was stopped and how to chat? 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: And he said, how do you think it's going? And 31 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: I get this question all the time from friends and 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: they see me, and you know, a lot of times 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: they'd like, I know you don't want to talk business, 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: but I got to ask you how it's going for 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. And I always said, and first of all, 36 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: I always I'm always down to talk business because business 37 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: is politics and politics is life, and this is what 38 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: we discuss. 39 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: But he asked about it, and he said, and I said, rather, 41 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: it's looking so good that I don't trust it. And 42 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: I think that's where I am from now until the 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: election day, meaning until we can have that beautiful moment 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: of celebration when it feels like things have been set 45 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: right and there's an end to this Biden nightmare. It's 46 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: just full steam ahead. Have to keep the pedal to 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: the metal, have to do everything possible to make sure 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: we are putting forward the best possible case to the 49 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: American people for why it should be a yes red 50 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: wave this fall. I know that's not a term that 51 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: anyone wants to hear after twenty twenty two, or rather, 52 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: no one's using it after twenty twenty two. But a 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: red wave would be phenomenal, and it is certainly warranted. 54 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: And I think that there's increasingly a possibility that will 55 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: have a substantial advantage in the Senate, not sixty votes, 56 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 2: but you know, three, maybe something like that. 57 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: Four. 58 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: And then also we will be able to get a 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: win of the House. Okay, but before I get ahead 60 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: of myself, this is what I said. I'm not going 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: to get ahead of myself. 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying not to. I don't trust it. 63 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: But here's why I'm already in this frame of mind 64 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: with what's going on and the trajectory of the country, 65 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: this moment in the history of the United States. This 66 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: is crazy stuff that's going on in New York City, 67 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: with the Trump trot, the fact that we're reporting on 68 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: the leading presidential candidate who is ahead of all the polls, 69 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: showing up to a criminal trial in the city of 70 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: New York on the flimsiest pretext I have ever heard 71 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: of in my life, with the most obvious prosecutorial and 72 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: judicial abuse I've ever seen in any trial I can 73 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: think of, certainly based around something so absurd in the 74 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: first place. The fact that this is blowing up in 75 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: the faces of the Democrats so far, based on everything 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: we can see, is the ultimate poetic justice. Now we're 77 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: not there yet, and I know there's still a verdict 78 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: to come. The verdict is probably a few weeks out now, 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: but people are waking up. 80 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: Did this? 81 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: I do think there's a broader awakening happening right now 82 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: in America because we're not going to get everybody. You know, 83 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: there's a portion of the country that unfortunately has been brainwashed. 84 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: You know, brainwashed actually first appeared in the term appeared 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: in a column written in a newspaper. 86 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: In Miami a long time ago. I had to do 87 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: with what was going on. 88 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: In North Korea and with the communists. But I do 89 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: think there have been people that are effectively brainwashed on 90 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: the left, and we can't actually do anything to change 91 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: their point of view. But for anybody who is persuadable, 92 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: and we've heard some big names out there that have 93 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: started to see the light a little bit. I don't 94 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: know if that's indicative of broader numbers, really, but we've 95 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: heard some big names for anyone who is persuadable. Biden's 96 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: stabbing Israel in the back, his absurdly weak explanations for 97 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: his faltering economy and stewardship thereof the wide open border, 98 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: which we still need to be focusing on and talking 99 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: about a lot more. The Democrat disaster of crime policies 100 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: in major cities. I saw this horrific. It's all called 101 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: on video. This woman in New York City. New York 102 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: Post has it today. She is by this absolute barbarian 103 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: He lassos her looks like with a belt around the 104 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: neck and chokes her out and then it's actually assault her. 105 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: It's all on video. 106 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: And you know, I see this and I think to myself, 107 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: First of all, this is moments where I am in 108 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: favor of the death penalty. And second of all, I'm 109 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: sure that he's been arrested many times before. I don't 110 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: know that, but they haven't caught him. I think the 111 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: NYPD has released the photo mark this down. The guy 112 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: who committed it was on the first of may this 113 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: horrible assault and rape in New York City. We're going 114 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: to find out he has a long criminal record. We're 115 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: going to find out that Democrats, judges, prosecutors didn't want 116 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: to punish him. 117 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: This is a prediction. I could be wrong. 118 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: Didn't want to punish him too severely, said he had 119 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: a tough life, and so arrest after arrest, he was 120 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: let out. And now somebody has suffered a horrible, violent 121 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 2: rape just walking down the streets of New York City. 122 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 2: Democrats are responsible for the policies like this that lead 123 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: to things like this incident. They have made a clear 124 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 2: decision that leads to more of this, more rapes, more murders, 125 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: more burglaries, more carfef's, more suffering of people. And with 126 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: all of that going on, instead of the Democrats even 127 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: making an argument for why they're actually not that bad 128 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: or why they've learned some lessons and they're going to 129 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: change things around, it's let's try to remember thirty four 130 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: felony counts. Theoretically, they could lock Donald Trump up for 131 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: this for the rest of his life. In theory, they 132 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: could try, Okay, the judge could just decide, yeah, the guidelines, 133 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to ignore the guidelines. I know it would 134 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: go to appeals and everything else, but certainly a sentence 135 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: of incarceration is possible when someone says you have thirty 136 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: four felony counts against you. With all the things going 137 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: on in the country, all the abject failures of the 138 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: Biden regime, what do they do. They turn around and 139 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: they weaponize the system against Donald Trump in the most 140 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: obvious and egregious ways, such that I believe now we've 141 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: reached a point where people, even people for whom Donald 142 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: Trump is, they don't like his you know, his persona 143 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: or the way he approaches. They don't approve of the 144 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: way that he reacted to the twenty twenty election. They 145 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: you know whatever. There are plenty of people that have 146 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: problems with Trump. 147 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: We all know that. 148 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: But some of them who have problems with Trump understand 149 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: that this has now been elevated to it's bigger than Trump. 150 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: This is truly about the future of the country. Trump 151 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: is a critical component of this. But if you can 152 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: throw your political opponents into prison, or even just throw 153 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: them off the campaign trail and slander them for months 154 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: with absurd prosecutions, and that is what is going on New. 155 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: York is a It is a disgrace. 156 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: To the legal system. What is going on in New 157 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: York City. If you can do that to Trump, you 158 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: can do it to anyone, and that is exactly what 159 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: is going on. Trump sees this. He is remarkably cheerful 160 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: and trump like for somebody who's facing for four different 161 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: criminal trials, including one that has already underway. But this 162 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 2: was him speaking today. This has cut one before his trial. 163 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: Listen to what the man himself has to say. 164 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 4: On Saturday, we have a tremendous rally and how we 165 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: were going to be there in wild Wood, New Jersey. 166 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 4: It's going to be a big crowd and we're going 167 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 4: to be saying, alad we'll be. 168 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: Able to campaign on Saturday. And nevertheless, we have a 169 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: horrible gig order that hit Ala has never been on. 170 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: Nothing like this has ever happened. 171 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: For witnessing is a first What your witnessing is the 172 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: first time this has ever happened before. Think about all 173 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: the times they used the term unprecedented against Donald Trump 174 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 2: to try to criticize or undermine him when he was president. 175 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: And of course, as we know, they were abusing the 176 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: term because it wasn't unprecedented. Other presidents had done things, 177 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: but they just wanted to create this false surge of 178 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: outrage emotion at Trump all the time. It's become an 179 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: addiction Democrats, the Democrat Party, the American Left, the Kamis, 180 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: they are addicted to hating Donald Trump. This has become 181 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 2: the great distraction from the holes in their souls, from 182 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: the lack of purpose that they have, from the stupid 183 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: decisions that they have supported or done themselves on COVID, 184 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: on crime, on the border. Trump is the ultimate distraction 185 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: for the left. He makes them think that they're always 186 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: the good guys, no matter what is happening, and no 187 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: matter what they have done. This is why it is 188 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: so useful for them psychologically to establish Trump as the 189 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: end of democracy, the end of the republic, this great evil. 190 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: It is a delusion. It is a delusion that serves 191 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: a political purpose for the Democrat Party and a delusion 192 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 2: that serves the individual purpose for Democrats. 193 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: Of it doesn't matter if I. 194 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: Was triple masking and getting my fifteenth COVID shot and 195 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: talking about how I want to take illegal migrants into 196 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: my home. 197 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know who they are. 198 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to give them the guest bedroom, and we 199 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: don't need to lock up criminals. And why don't we 200 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: just have more regulation on the economy. It's not like 201 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: we already spend trillions of dollars on useless regulation. 202 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: Maybe we should raise taxes. The people that have. 203 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: Just that, that avalanche of bad ideas, of dumb ideas, 204 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter that they're wrong, It doesn't matter that 205 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: there are awful consequences that we all observe from this. 206 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: The Democrats who believe in all of that, and notice 207 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: they basically believe in it all together, all at once, 208 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: same people who are on the campus is now, oh, 209 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: Israel isn't apartheid state, cut off all the weapons, digest 210 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: all this nonsense, all the same. Donald Trump as the 211 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: American hitler, the fascist, the destructor of the American experiment. 212 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: Allows them to think that they are on the right 213 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: side of all of this. They are on the left, 214 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: but they act like they're in the right. They get 215 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: to pretend, they get to costplay, costume play like the 216 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: bold counter revolutionaries, when really they are the Bolsheviks. And 217 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: all of this they are undermining our society. They are 218 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: kicking at the load bearing walls of our civilization and 219 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: Donald Trump is just the fixation of all of this. 220 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 2: You know, when Trump says, They're not coming after me, 221 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: They're coming after you. 222 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: I just stand in between. 223 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: There's a reason that resonates so well, and in these 224 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: criminal trials you are seeing it. Nobody could sensibly believe 225 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: that this is the last time they will use the 226 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: law as a weapon to get their way in politics. 227 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: And nobody can believe that they take the system seriously 228 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: and have any interest in protecting the system as it 229 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: stands as a constitutional framework as a liberal, free society, 230 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: right liberal in the small L sense. Nobody can believe 231 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: that they actually care about our institutions when they are 232 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: doing the things that we are seeing them do in 233 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: that courthouse in New York City right now, with other 234 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: trials on the. 235 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: Way, and yet with all of the all of the. 236 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: Darkness around this, I still think that we're going to 237 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: come through this, and like I said, the ultimate poetic 238 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: justice here as possible. 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Trump is 276 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: facing this down, and he's going to do a rally 277 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: this week, and he's out there campaigning Joe Biden. You'll 278 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: notice very limited coverage of what Joe Biden is doing. 279 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: You wouldn't be you wouldn't be remiss if you took 280 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: a step back and said, who's the president these days? 281 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: Really? I mean, who's actually running the show? 282 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: Does it really feel to anyone like we are in 283 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: a Biden presidency? 284 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: Now? 285 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: I know you could say, well, Buck, look at all 286 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: the crappy numbers and the failures, and no, no, I understand, 287 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: but we're really just in generic Democrat presidency with empty 288 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: shoot grinning Biden technically playing the role almost like he's 289 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: on a soap opera or something. By the way, he 290 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: could be that goy. Well, now he's probably too old 291 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: for that. He's actually too old to play as an 292 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: actor the role of president on TV. But he is 293 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: the president of the United States officially speaking. It is 294 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: not a surprise at all, my friends, that they're going 295 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: to continue with the all out assault on Trump, even 296 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: as it is backfiring in their faces, because what else 297 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: have they got. They've got to play out this stratagem 298 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: has it unfolds, they have to continue on with the ambush, right, 299 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 2: even if the ambush is going bad and Trump is 300 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 2: returning fire, so to speak, what else are they going 301 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: to do? They've already committed. They can't walk. Could you 302 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: imagine if they drop some of these trials they started 303 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: to say, oh, you know, turns out that prosecuting a 304 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: likely future president and former president's like not a great idea. 305 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: So we're just gonna forget about that whole J six case. 306 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: Let's just sweep that under the rug. Well, then they're 307 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: guaranteeing that Trump is going to be president, right, So 308 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: they have no choice here, just. 309 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Like I've been saying, noted that I have been right. 310 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: For two years now that they have no choice but Biden, 311 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: because they have already the die. 312 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: Is cast. 313 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: They have no choice here but to run with Biden, 314 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: and they have no choice but to keep running with 315 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: these prosecutions, no matter. 316 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: How bad it looks for them. 317 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 2: You know, the number one for fantasy sports app in 318 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: America is Prize Picks, and look, Prize Picks is so 319 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: much fun. 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It's all in the above, 343 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 4: but it's also. 344 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: An abominable abuse. 345 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: Of our justice system and a wretched assault from the 346 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 4: rule of law. 347 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: As Johnathan Jarlid. 348 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: That was President Trump who was speaking out again before 349 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 2: the trial today, this is really a part of now 350 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: the Trump campaign, he speaks out before his criminal trial 351 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: goes in, then comes out, speaks out again, dominating the 352 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: news cycle. As I said, who even knows if Joe Biden, Well, 353 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: he's never really running the country. But they're not even 354 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 2: making much of a pretense of Biden running the country 355 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: at this point. It's just, you know, the puppeteers are 356 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: taking a break. I don't know what to say. They're 357 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: they're they're not making Biden dance around as much as 358 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: you would think, so they can continue with the charade 359 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 2: of Biden the president. And I mean on Monday, well, 360 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: I'll be with you talking about this on Monday. They're 361 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: expecting Michael Cohen to testify, and they're they're going through 362 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: all of this. You think about the man hours, the 363 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: time that is spent on this, that any prosecutor in 364 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: the United States of America would think that a week's 365 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: long trial of any American over a non crime with 366 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: no downside for anybody except this theoretical belief that it 367 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: could have maybe affected the presidential election. I mean, if 368 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: they can prosecute Trump for this, they can prosecute anyone 369 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: for anything. And that is why this is so dangerous. 370 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: That is why this is so wrong. When Trump says 371 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 2: that this is a farce. When Trump says this is, I, 372 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: to my absolute core, one hundred percent believe and agree. 373 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: With all of that. 374 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: And this is a travesty of the justice system. There's 375 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: absolutely nothing to this in New York City, but here 376 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: we are. It's like a nightmare that we can't wake 377 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: up from, although it might become the Democrats nightmare, and 378 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: this continues to be what we're seeing, which is I mean, 379 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: I'll just say it. During the primary, Trump didn't have 380 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: to campaign very much, he didn't have to debate at all, 381 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: and he won and it wasn't even close. Now I 382 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: think it's going to be close with Joe Biden. But 383 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: I think the Democrats have greatly underestimated, or to borrow 384 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: from former President Bush, misunderestimated where this is actually all going. 385 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 2: And Don Junior just just shared this out earlier this 386 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: morning as well. Judge Mrchan, who's doing he's the judge 387 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: of the New York City cases. We know he's doing 388 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: everything possible to tilt the scale against Trump, already holding 389 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: him in contempt, allowing Stormy Daniels to go into all 390 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: kinds of stuff. To be clear, I know this little 391 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: sidebar here, but they're only allowing Stormy Daniels to talk 392 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: about this stuff in the courtroom because of the salacious 393 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: sexual nature of it. And their hope is that even 394 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: if they can't get the conviction, at least they're getting 395 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: a court record tarnishing Donald Trump, humiliating Donald Trump. That's 396 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 2: the whole And the thing is they've seemed to have forgotten. 397 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: Can't humiliate Trump. 398 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: It's not gonna work. He doesn't care, and we don't care. 399 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: It's not going to change anything. 400 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: They tried this with the Billy Bush tape right before 401 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen election. 402 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: It's not going to change anything. 403 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 2: Their dirty tricks aren't working the way they used to. 404 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: But if this were about, you know, not not an 405 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: NDA having to do with you know, a sexual alleged 406 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: sexual encounter, right, But if this were just an NDA, 407 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: you know, a more general India, do you think that 408 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: they'd really go into all this detail about what it is. No, 409 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: because it's irrelevant. Everyone agrees there was an NDA. An 410 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: NDA is not illegal. I don't like when people say 411 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: it's a hush money trial. You heard Alita haba Trump 412 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 2: lawyer on our show earlier this week agreeing with me. 413 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: This is a business records trial. The only issue at 414 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: the only issue at hand is the recording of internal 415 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: business records. It's almost like you would be prosecuted for 416 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: how you listed something for your own bookkeeping purposes, and 417 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: not that it went to the federal government and you 418 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: cheated on your taxes. Just you listed it differently than 419 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: they say you should have. Now you're going to go 420 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: to prison. And I still think that no one has 421 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: really dug into this. If it was an expense that 422 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: should have been listed because of campaign finance reasons, then 423 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: he should. 424 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: Have paid with campaign finance funds. Think about how crazy 425 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 1: that is. Oh, you're gonna period. 426 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: Imagine if Trump used campaign funds to start paying off 427 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: former porn stars to shut up about their crazy stories. Right, 428 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: what do you think you think the media would be 429 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: okay with that? 430 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: Oh, throw them in prison. 431 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 2: But this is why it's a perfect encapsulation of how 432 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: they approach everything. It's he should go to prison for 433 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: doing what he did, and if he didn't do what 434 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: he did and did the other thing, we would try 435 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 2: to throw him in prison for doing that. Trump damned 436 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 2: if he does, damned if he doesn't that is at 437 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 2: the essence of this case. 438 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: But I mentioned Don Junior. He Donald Trump Junior he 439 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: tweeted out. 440 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: According to this judge merch on, Stormy Daniels's testimony is relevant, 441 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: but Mark Pomerantz, a former prosecutor in the AG's office 442 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: who wrote a book on. 443 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: This is not relevant. 444 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: So whatever can be done to prejudice the jury against 445 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: Donald Trump is what is being done. Whatever abuse the 446 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: judge can engage in, he is going to engage in. Now, 447 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: how are they covering this over on the other side. Uh, 448 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: this is fascinating. I want to come in and out 449 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: of this SoundBite with you because this was a wow 450 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: moment one of their top legal analysts over at MSNBC, 451 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: and this is this is she describes what she calls 452 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: a I am quoting a nuts and sluts defense. 453 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: I never heard. 454 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: I tell you, I took pre law on college. Never 455 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: heard of the nuts and sluts defense. That's what she 456 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: calls it on cable TV. This is cut five. Let's 457 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: get into this and we'll make some sense of it together. 458 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 5: As all the time, I sat through two Eging Carroll 459 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 5: trials and two cross examinations of Eging Carroll, and I 460 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 5: have to tell you I agree with Sue wholeheartedly. This 461 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 5: was very much what I'd call a nuts and sluts defense. 462 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 5: There was a portion of the cross examination where Susan 463 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: Necklace was focused on the fact that Stormy Daniels now 464 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 5: claims that she is a medium and that she communicates 465 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 5: with dead people and has participated in a TV Store 466 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 5: TV series about the paranormal where she explores things including 467 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 5: the fact that at one point an ex boyfriend of 468 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 5: hers was inhabited by spirits. She was mocking Stormy Daniels, 469 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 5: shoe Okay. 470 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, okay. 471 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: I gotta say, I think that is really relevant to 472 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: whether or not you could believe somebody's testimony under elth 473 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: Did you hear all that? I didn't even know that 474 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: so other than the you know, spirits and mediums and 475 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 2: their boyfriend was inhabited by a spirit and you know, 476 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: I think I think if the woman who's under oath, 477 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: who's trying to stop somebody from becoming president and engaged 478 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: in extortion, as we all know, I mean, the line 479 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: between extortion and having your lawyer extort somebody is something 480 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 2: the legal system really needs to take a little bit 481 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: of a closer look at and she violated the ndakind 482 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: I just also note that, so she has no honor 483 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: whatsoever in any of this. Okay, and unsurprising given what 484 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: she does for a living. I know the Left loves 485 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: to elevate, you know, porn stars. First of all, I 486 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: don't even like to term porn stars, you know, because 487 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: this call them stars. There's there's always this elevation of 488 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: it's it's effectively acting as a recorded prostitute. 489 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: It's really very sad. 490 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: That this happens in this country and that it has 491 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: been as popular as it is. But anyway, yeah, I 492 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: think it's relevant that she's, you know, basically sitting there 493 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: with a crystal ball and think she's speaking to spirits 494 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: in the room or something at some point. 495 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's relevant. But let's keep going here. 496 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 1: Play it. 497 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 5: It wants the jury to think Stormy Daniels is a 498 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 5: liar and she is crazy, and she also wants the 499 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 5: jurors to judge her for her occupation. And Stormy Daniels 500 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 5: gave no ground on that. As Sue just said, she 501 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 5: might be an exotic dancer and adult film actor, but 502 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 5: she was very clear when Susan Necklace used the phrase 503 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 5: selling yourself to describe what Stormy Daniels was doing on 504 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 5: a tour where she was making appearances at clubs. Stormy 505 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 5: Daniels set her straight. I was not selling myself. I 506 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 5: was dancing. 507 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: I wasn't selling myself. I was dancing I mean naked. 508 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 2: And also she has sold herself. I mean, if you 509 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: are paid to have sex on camera with somebody, I 510 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: mean you are selling your corporeal existence. That is what 511 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: you are doing, right. You are engaged in a form 512 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: of exhibitionist prostitution. That is what is going on. Notice 513 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 2: though at MSNBC the way they described it, so Trump 514 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: can be trashed and bashed for anything and everything he's 515 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: ever done in his entire life, personally profession and that's 516 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: all fair game. But the lunatic porn star who broke 517 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: the NDA, who extorted Trump, who's obviously a little cuckoo 518 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: for cocoa puffs, how dare he questioned this adult film actor. 519 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: I mean, the way this woman, the way this legal 520 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: anilence describes it makes it sound like Stormy was up 521 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: for an oscar. Calm down, lady, Okay, we all know 522 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: what she was doing, and that is relevant. You're talking 523 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: about character believability. I think these things are very relevant 524 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: to the case. But look at look at the way 525 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: that they will do these twists and turns. Oh, it's 526 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: horrible suggesting that Stormy Daniels is some way untruthful and unethical. Yeah, 527 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: I think that's what the defense is suggesting. I think 528 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: that makes a lot of sense under the circumstances, but 529 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: it's also can you imagine dragging the country into this. 530 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: The entire Manhattan District Attorney's Office should just be hanging 531 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: their heads in abject shame. 532 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: Shame. 533 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's not a perfect place, but it used 534 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: to be under sy Vance and before that, for a 535 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: long time under morganhal the Advance wasn't very good, but 536 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: under morganhaw. 537 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: It was a serious place. It wasn't a perfect place, 538 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: but it was a serious place. 539 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: The District Attorney's Office in Manhattan is now a joke. 540 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: It is a place run by clowns for the benefit 541 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: of an emotionally unstable mob of Democrats in New York 542 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: and spread out across the country. And they do what 543 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: they do for the amusement of the clowns who love 544 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: MSNBC and CNN and think that the new York Times 545 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: front page is objective news. We're seeing this all and 546 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: it's clear as day. But it doesn't mean they're going 547 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: to stop. 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I think it merits a 584 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: longer conversation. Steve Bannon's appeal for his contempt of Congress 585 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: conviction has been upheld by the Court of Appeals in 586 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: d C. The Circuit Court of Appeals rather for the 587 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 2: District of Columbia has upheld the Steve Bannon. 588 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: Conviction. 589 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: Now, it does not mean that Steve Bannon, who is 590 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: a fighter for the right to be sure, does not 591 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: mean that he has to go to prison immediately. He 592 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: can appeal this to I believe, the full Circuit Court 593 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: en buanc or he can try to take it all 594 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: the way up to the Supreme Court. But this is 595 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: showing you the willingness that they have on the other 596 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: side to play rough Keep in mind, I think this 597 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: gets nowhere near enough tension, nowhere near enough attention that 598 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: they have already locked up. Peter Navarro, who was a 599 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 2: senior I mean I used to interview this guy during 600 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: the Trump years. He was a senior guy on trade 601 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: policy issues. He was really one of the architects of 602 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 2: the Trump China policy, where he was helping to finally 603 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: begin leveling the playing field between the US and China. 604 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 2: Peter Navarro, the guy's a senior citizen he's in prison. 605 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: He's actually serving a sentence in Miami here. 606 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how long it is. I think maybe 607 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: he's already out. I don't know. 608 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: But he served a prison sentence. He went to I'm sorry, 609 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 2: ninety days behind bars. Ninety days is what they expected. 610 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: So he went in in March. So no, he's still 611 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: in prison. So a senior Trump advisor is in prison 612 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: for refusing to comply with a pena from the House 613 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: Select Committee. So a bunch of Democrat partisans in the 614 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: House of Representatives demand information that Navarro believes is privileged 615 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: as presidential communication that has to do with they say 616 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 2: January sixth, twenty twenty one, and he doesn't comply, and 617 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: they lock him up. They've actually done that. They're trying 618 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 2: to do that to Steve Bennon as well, who was 619 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: also at one time a senior White House advisor, and 620 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: somebody who they man the left hates banned, they hate 621 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 2: ben And I always say this, the more the left 622 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 2: hates a person, the more I'm like, he's probably a 623 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 2: good guy. 624 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: He's probably getting it done. 625 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 2: They hate Bannon, and good for him, by the way, 626 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 2: wear it is a badge of honor. 627 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: But you see what's going on here. 628 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: They're not just you know, whining about this stuff and 629 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: acting like they're using the raw power of the state 630 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: to punish people. I don't think enough attention has been 631 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 2: paid to the fact that they locked up Weiselberg, who 632 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: was a Trump accountant basically for the Trump organization, for 633 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: the most TICKI tacked nonsense tax crime. Oh he didn't 634 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: put that he had a company car and his tax returns. 635 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: I didn't even know you had to do that. 636 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not an accountant, but you know, and 637 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 2: who goes to prison for that? They sent Trump's accountant 638 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 2: to Rikers Island over the most absurd tax violation. So 639 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: you've got Navarro in prison, now Weiseelberg sent to prison. 640 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 2: They're trying to throw Bannon in prison. So when we 641 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 2: come back, let's talk about this. Are they trying to 642 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: throw Trump in prison? There's some updates on it. We'll 643 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 2: discuss