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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth.

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Speaker 2: Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Barth. I just love

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Speaker 2: how ten minutes of anything that's not Patriots because sets

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Speaker 2: all of you on.

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Speaker 1: We made it a little We tried to make it Patriots.

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Speaker 1: What's your new hobby?

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Speaker 3: In a beach?

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Speaker 2: I'll let you know. I'm still haven't decided or any

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Speaker 2: of my pitches being considered. You keep trying to pitch

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Speaker 2: golf to me, and I'm not going to golf, and

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Speaker 2: you should golf. It's a golf is not gonna great

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Speaker 2: escapism hobby when I golf. The part that I think

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Speaker 2: I can't do like leisurely, like past time. Like if

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Speaker 2: I'm playing a sport, I'm competing. It's not golf. And

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Speaker 2: now nobody has to worry about me talking about the

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Speaker 2: Celtics anymore because the season is But I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 2: You're all congratulations. I will no longer talk basketball and

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 1: YouTube replies public tweets dms to me Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot a lot of people are excited about you possibly

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Speaker 1: playing Madden.

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Speaker 2: It's true. I had no idea a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of people want to see you play Madden, Evan.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea that that was going to happen. Truthfully, Yes,

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Speaker 2: last week's show, and we we do check the comments

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Speaker 2: last week's show pretty much ninety five percent of the

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Speaker 2: comments where we need Alex and Evan on Twitch playing

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Speaker 2: Madden with one another.

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Speaker 1: And to the people who it wouldn't replace this show,

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Speaker 1: it would be its own separate No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we're not playing Madden on here. No, we

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Speaker 2: have that.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I know ye do a great job of it.

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Speaker 1: But I think you might have to, uh, you might

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Speaker 1: have to really look into this. You got to give

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Speaker 1: the people what they want.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, but this business is maybe I haven't played and

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Speaker 2: then I swear we're going to get into it. But

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Speaker 2: I haven't played a video game and I can't even

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Speaker 2: remember how long.

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Speaker 1: So I'm saying get it now, and like, get used

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Speaker 1: to it so when the new one drops, you can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I retire from playing video games probably at least

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Speaker 2: five years ago. Kind of coincided with something else that

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Speaker 2: my drifts. So, yeah, I haven't played video games in

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Speaker 2: a long Get you back into it. Yeah, all right, anyways,

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Speaker 2: hello everybody, how are we doing? Evan Lazar, Alex Bart

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Speaker 2: with you for the next couple hours. Here talking Patriots football.

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Speaker 2: No basketball today, no Madden. We're talking actual football. Because

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Speaker 2: we were out at OTA's yesterday and we got our

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Speaker 2: fantastic for a voluntary Capital V voluntary workout. I accounted

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Speaker 2: We saw that at Rookie Mini caamp too. I thought

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Speaker 2: It didn't feel like that yesterday to me watching it,

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Speaker 1: It feels The up tempo thing was the biggest thing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was. It was good to see. I

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Speaker 2: but it was good to see. I haven't seen that

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Speaker 2: You know, hopefully we get to training camp in July

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, it's not nothing. It's something that you keep

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Speaker 1: he had a bad first day. Can he get better?

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's the be all end all. I

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Speaker 1: don't think this is indicative of what he's going to be.

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Speaker 1: But clearly there's room to grow and it's not going

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Speaker 1: to be it maybe isn't the smoothest transition, which we

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Speaker 2: You said, yeah, I'll get to that.

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Speaker 1: Two of those picks were just bad, like period, they

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Speaker 1: were bad. They were on Drake May, they were bad.

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Speaker 1: So you know there's some of that, but no, it's

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Speaker 1: lowercase he concerning you obviously don't want to see Drake

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Speaker 1: may of a day like that. But now looking forward, Okay,

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Speaker 1: did this turn out to be the start of something

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Speaker 1: that was maybe a big issue. There's time to turn

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Speaker 1: it around, right even if this, if he was doing

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Speaker 1: But for right now, and it's not a linear we

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Speaker 1: didn't see day one. Who knows, maybe lit it up yesterday. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: it's not a linear process. So it's it's still a

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Speaker 2: Their starting guard.

434
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: I had Schweitzer in different different extent, but he at

435
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 1: a certain point lined up at four different positions yesterday.

436
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 2: The only one I didn't see him at was left tackle.

437
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 1: He was early and often at left guard, saw him

438
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 1: snapping a little bit, got some right guard reps briefly

439
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 1: at right tackle with different alignments and different groups and

440
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 1: all of that. So you know, some definitely carried more

441
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: weight than others, and it seemed like left guard was

442
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: his primary spot. But you know, City Show wasn't there.

443
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 1: Cole Strange was leadon, Robinson wasn't. Col Strange was involved

444
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 1: as well. But Wes Whitzer.

445
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 2: Feels like it's in the mix.

446
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, percent, It definitely feels like he's really in the

447
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: mix more than just all right, he's a veteran.

448
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 4: Its first day of OTA, so he's going to get

449
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 4: the NOD.

450
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 2: So there's some element to that though, right, And I

451
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: understand if you didn't know who Wes Whiteser was until

452
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: today or still don't, I fully do not blame me, right,

453
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 2: it's a it's a veteran into your offensive lineman who's

454
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 2: been mostly a backup throughout his career. But he does

455
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: have sixty two starts under his belt in the NFL.

456
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 2: He's played eight years in the league, two starts across

457
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: multiple positions. Now, I talked to Brandon Thorn a little

458
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 2: bit about him off the air, and he just said,

459
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: you know you, ideally, a guy like west Sweitzer is

460
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,479
Speaker 2: like a super sub. Like he's your top backup on

461
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: the interior. The right guard goes down, he can play,

462
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 2: the left guard goes down, he can play. You hope

463
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 2: that you have somebody that's that's starting that maybe is

464
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: a little bit better than a guy like west Sweitzer,

465
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 2: but early on in training camp, early on in the season,

466
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: just like Michael Jordan last year, until some of the

467
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: younger players start to make a push, until some of

468
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: those guys start to feel comfortable in what they're doing. Schematically,

469
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 2: this is a time of year where guys like Westwitzer

470
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 2: take a lot of those top reps. It's just is

471
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 2: what it is.

472
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 5: Now.

473
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: The question is for West Schweitzer, but in all those

474
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 2: different positions, like well, that's what makes them kind of

475
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: like that super sub right, Like, if we consider him,

476
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if he can play right tackle, but

477
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 2: if we just say that he can play three different

478
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 2: positions on the interior, all three right both guard spots,

479
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: and center, there's a ton of value in having that

480
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: player around, especially on game day, because if somebody gets

481
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: hurt and it's just a one for one replacement, Westwitzer

482
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: goes in, he plays right guard and and hopefully you know,

483
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: the beat still still goes right and hopefully the train

484
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 2: is still rolling. Whereas if you have a guy that's

485
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: really only a one position backup, then you have to

486
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: change everybody around to get that player on the field

487
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 2: to replace the player that got hurt. So from that standpoint,

488
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: Westwitzer can be a valuable player if he can back

489
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: up all three interior spots, that's probably his best path

490
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: to the roster. But the other question from for west

491
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: Switzer is how long can you hold off Eladen Robinson?

492
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: How long can you hold off you know a city,

493
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: so Cole Strange I think is going to be in

494
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: the mix, but you get the drift, you know, Jered Wilson.

495
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 4: Did Cole Strange look bigger to you?

496
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: Maybe in the upper body.

497
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the thing we've talked about with Cole stranger

498
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: guard is he's you know, is he bulky enough? Is

499
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: he powerful play way mcdennis wants to play. It looks

500
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: like maybe he worked on changing his body type to

501
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: be more in the mix there.

502
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, So how long does he hold off those guys?

503
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 2: If at all? I don't know. You know, we'll find out,

504
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: we'll see come training camp. But Westweitzer's an NFL interior

505
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, Like, this guy's been around this is you know,

506
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: he's not he's not Zach Martin, right, but he's also

507
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: not a nobody, Like he's got some experience and he's

508
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: got some name value to him. Now, along with Schweitzer,

509
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: we saw a lot of close strange on the offensive line.

510
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: Will Campbell locked in at left tackle. I don't think

511
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: that's a surprise that anybody.

512
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 4: Thoughts that really didn't move we're left tackleing center?

513
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, brad Berry and Will Campbell. Bradberry at center obviously,

514
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: Campbell at left tackle. What are your your feelings though

515
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: on left guard right now? Because I do think cold

516
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: strange based off what we saw and again it the

517
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: table at five hundred more time. We saw one day

518
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: of practice. Okay, we we haven't seen a time, but

519
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: based on what we saw, it just at least feels

520
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 2: like cold Strange has maybe the inside track. I would say,

521
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: like it's good they kind of are. It seems like

522
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 2: they're they're giving him opportunities. Let me put it.

523
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: I mean that's what that's what the big caveat of

524
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: City so not being there. Yeah, but and I think

525
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: Chaired Wilson looked like he might have been limited.

526
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that too.

527
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: I think Cole Strange is maybe more in the mix

528
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: than me and some other people were giving him credit for. Yeah,

529
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: I'll say that I need to see it with everybody

530
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: out there to be like he's the favorite, because I like,

531
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: just knowing historically what Josh McDaniels.

532
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: Is liked City, so would be his guy based off

533
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 2: of that.

534
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: Now, maybe it's changed with this year he took and

535
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: he went around and he went to all these colleges

536
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 1: and saw offense being run differently. Maybe that changes, But

537
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: like traditionally City sow's his kind of guy. So you know,

538
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: maybe City shows here next week when we're out there

539
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: and he's getting all those reps, and that wouldn't surprise

540
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: me at all, but it does seem like Cole Strange

541
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: is more in the mix.

542
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: He's more in the mix and playing guard. You know,

543
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: he played a little bit of center in warm ups

544
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: and like walk through type drills, but once they got

545
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 2: into full team, he was playing guard. I didn't see

546
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: him take any center any snaps once they got into

547
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: the full team stuff. Kad and Wallace top backup at

548
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: right tackle. It seems like, at least for now, you know,

549
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. I kind of like that. I

550
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: think there's a there's a chance, and I know it

551
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: might be a year or two from now. Maybe that's

552
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: a little bit too long for some people's liking, but

553
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: the passing of the torch that could go on there

554
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 2: from Moses to Kayden Wallace makes a lot of sense.

555
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: It would obviously be a lot more seamless for the

556
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: Patriots if they didn't have to then go use another

557
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: draft pick and here on right tackle, because they feel

558
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 2: like they have one with Kid and Wallace. But the

559
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: last thing on the offensive line, I didn't I didn't

560
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: take it lightly that when they were doing team and

561
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: Drake was struggling, his whole rights of the offensive line

562
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: was on the other field, not participating like you know,

563
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: like Morgan Moses and Mike on Wenho were on the

564
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: other side of it, and they were working with Jared Wilson,

565
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: and they were working with Jared Wilson. So I think

566
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: there's a good case to be made that three of

567
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: the five best linemen on the team were not participating

568
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: in those team drills. So it'd be interesting to see

569
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: what it looks like once those two, especially the two veterans.

570
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: I don't know where Jared Wilson's going to factor into

571
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: all this, or when I should say Jared Wilson's going

572
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 2: to factor all into all of this, but those two

573
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 2: veterans were not participating in the competitive team periods, so

574
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: maybe that will help, you know, having a more solidified pocket.

575
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: But let's gush a little bit about Christian Zalez, because

576
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: I thought he was the best player on the field yesterday.

577
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was particularly close. I thought he

578
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: looked even more like confident and comfortable than maybe even

579
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: what we saw last year when he was a second

580
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: team All.

581
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: Bro It's it's even at the podium like he seems.

582
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 4: So He's not a guy talks a lot.

583
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: We've talked about this, he's got that kind of step

584
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: fun get more quiet sauce.

585
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 2: But was nothing wrong with that.

586
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yesterday at the podium, you know, we had two picks.

587
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: He's probably feeling himself a little bit, but yes, Sate

588
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: the podium was like as confident as I've ever seen

589
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: him with the media, like the whole thing, on the field,

590
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: after practice, all of it. He seems calm, comfortable, confident,

591
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: And maybe that's having played a full NFL season, which

592
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: he obviously didn't do as a rookie.

593
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: You're right, but he just seems like he's in a great,

594
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 4: great place right now.

595
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the first interception he had, it was just

596
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: you know, coverage rotation. He rotated down into the flat

597
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: and jumped to pass into the flat. Not to take

598
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: away anything from the play, but the second interception on

599
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: the deep ball was just an unreal like that would

600
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: have been if fans had saw that, if that was

601
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: like in a game like that would have been on

602
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: the top of a highlight reel type thing from Christian Gonzales.

603
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: So it looked at me like it was, you know,

604
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: deep post corner. So Kyle Williams nodded to the post

605
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: and then broke on the corner and Christian Gonzale was

606
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: like kind of in no man's land, a little bit

607
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: in the flat on the back side there, and I

608
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: thought that he probably had the deep third of the

609
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: field like in like a cover three look, and it

610
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: looked open, like it flashed open for a second and

611
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: looked like Drake May was gonna be able to get

612
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: the ball there to Kyle Williams. And I would estimate

613
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: that Christian Gonzalez covered forty yards, like probably about thirty

614
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: five forty yards just in a dead sprint right to

615
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: the spot where the ball was going and over the shoulder,

616
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: just caught the ball in front of Kyle Williams. And

617
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: I don't think that Drake May or Kyle Williams thought

618
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: there was any chance that Christian Gonzalez was.

619
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 4: Gonna get that bay. You tell me if we want

620
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: to step too far.

621
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: And it was ota, So there's definitely some hyperbole here,

622
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 1: a little ed reid ish.

623
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: It was. It was a great pick, yeah, I mean

624
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: it was. And what I thought was even more encouraging

625
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: about it is that it was in zone like it

626
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: was like it wasn't like he was, you know, lockstep

627
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: in in Manton Man which is obviously awesome to watch him,

628
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: you know, lockdown receivers in man as well, but sometimes

629
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: in zone coverage and early on in his career, in

630
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: his career at Oregon, you know, he wasn't it wasn't

631
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: a strength of his game. It was he was clearly

632
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: a man coverage corner. That was the strength of the game.

633
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: But this play at Eyes in the backfield, he was

634
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: his own corner, had that you know, deep part of

635
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: the field over there. I wouldn't go as far to

636
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: say maybe as he baited him into it, but he

637
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: just kind of was Johnny on the spot and was

638
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: aware and alert to the route that Kyle Williams was running,

639
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: and man, did he cover a lot of ground in

640
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: a hurry. I think that's one of the things that

641
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: always surprises me, even still a little bit about Gonzalez

642
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: is how fast he is. Because he's a big dude.

643
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, six', two he's a, big long,

644
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: corner but he has got some real track, speed like

645
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: he's got some real four to three, wheels and he

646
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: certainly showed it on that. PLAY i just thought he he.

647
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: Dominated he dominated the practice like there's sometimes you, know

648
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: we see that every once in a while from like

649
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: A Christian barmore in the past or player like. That

650
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: this was a dominant showing From Christian, gonzales and it

651
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: can't help but be excited about what's going to happen

652
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: here With Carlon davis And Christian. GONZALES i think those

653
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: two guys together are going to be a, nightmare.

654
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: And that we talked about this that they need to

655
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: upgrade to pass, rush and obviously they added some Guys

656
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: Calevon Chase, on, who by the, way one of the

657
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: last players off the field yesterday stayed late to get

658
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: in some extra pass rush. Work but you, know they

659
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: added some pass Rushers Chase, On, Landry Milton williams obviously

660
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: in the.

661
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 4: Middle BUT i said this at the time and you

662
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 4: kind of saw it.

663
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: Yesterday Adding Carlton davis And gonzalez taking that next step

664
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: is going to do as much for the pass rush as. Anything,

665
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: yeah because they're going to have more time and vice.

666
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: VERSA i Think davis is going to Help Christian. Gonzalez

667
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: the one knock On gonzales last, YEAR i think it

668
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: was maybe, overblown but it wasn't, inaccurate was that he

669
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: didn't have a ton of on ball. Production, yeah didn't

670
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: have a lot of pass, breakups didn't have a lot of,

671
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: interceptions so AND i think some of that is just

672
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: he teams weren't throwing at. Him when they, did it

673
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: was like or opportunities where he wasn't going to be

674
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: able to make a play on the football because they

675
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: could pick on the other side and they had time

676
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: to kind of see the. Field Carlton davis on the

677
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: other side is going to be a lot harder to.

678
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: Test there's going to be a better pass. RUSH i

679
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: think you're one of those one of those. Picks the

680
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: first pick That christianzalez had was because The patriots got

681
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: in on a, blitz, yeah And Drake may had to

682
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: kind of throw. Hot AND i think you're going to

683
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: see more opportunities like that because the pass rush is

684
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: better and teams are going to Test gonzales, more which

685
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: is probably a good thing for. Him as we see

686
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: the ball, skills he's going to have a chance to

687
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: make some plays on the.

688
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: Football, Yeah That's that's definitely what stood out to me

689
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: was that both plays were eyes in the, backfield Not manta,

690
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: man not you, know shadowing receivers like he had eyes

691
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: in the, backfield which is what allowed him to make

692
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: plays on the. Ball as he said after, Practice and

693
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: as much AS i love him And man and everybody

694
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: loves him And man for good, reason AND i want

695
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: him to play the majority of his coverage snaps in man,

696
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: Like i'm not trying to Turn christiganzales into his own,

697
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: corner but if he is gonna Have Carlton davis on

698
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: the other, side one of the advantages of that, is you,

699
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: Know Carlton davis might be able to play the boundary

700
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: a little bit more and play THE x receiver a

701
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: little bit more than the guys they've had in the,

702
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: past which would Allow Christian gonzales to play the field

703
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: side a little bit more or the you, know the bigger.

704
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: Uh if you're on the hash, right like the longer

705
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: side of the, field and when you play on the field,

706
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: side a lot of the time you play a lot

707
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: more zone on that side of the field compared to the,

708
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: boundary where even if you're like man to man or

709
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: you're in a you, know like a cover three or a.

710
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: Quarters look like if you're three by one and you're

711
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: on the, boundary so three receivers, one you, know to one,

712
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: side one receiver to the. Other the boundary corner is

713
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: basically in man to man, coverage even if it's not

714
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: truly a man, call that's basically what's. Happening the field

715
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: corner is then more in like a zone coverage or

716
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: the way that they pass it off in, matches and

717
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: that allows eyes in the, Backfield like there's a world

718
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: where that will increase his on ball production where we

719
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: might see even more interception interceptions From Christian. Gonzales and

720
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: the exciting part about that is, also you, KNOW i

721
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: just mentioned his. Speed he's really fast in the open, Field,

722
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: like so if he gets the ball and he has

723
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 2: a chance to return, it like he's going to flip

724
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: the field and he's going to return it potentially all

725
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: the way to the house in some. Instances so that's

726
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: exciting to me is that it almost Having davis in

727
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: a way almost like frees Up Christian gonzalez to be

728
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: a little bit more of a playmaker at, times WHICH

729
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: i think is something that they haven't always been able

730
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: to tap into because they've had smaller corners Like Jonathan

731
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: jones Or Marcus jones playing the opposite side on the.

732
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: Outside you can't really allow him to be his zone

733
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: corner or have eyes in the backfield and all that.

734
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: Stuff so that's exciting With Christian. GONZALES i think there's

735
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: another level to his playmaking ability that we might be

736
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: able to see now that he has, somebody you, know

737
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: Like davis who can kind of take out his assignment

738
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: and handle more boundary. Responsibilities a couple of other. Things

739
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: and THEN i want to get to the. Rookies we

740
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: Saw Christian barmore out there. Participating looked like he was

741
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: a full, go a full. Participant i'm like holding my

742
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: breath about it a little. Bit i'm not going to

743
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: lie to, you LIKE i just crossed my. FINGERS i

744
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: hope for his sake that nothing happens and nothing pops

745
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: back up for. Him it was good to see him out.

746
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: There it was kind of. Cool you, know very first

747
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: snap of team, drills you See Kean, White Christian, Barmore Milton,

748
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: Williams Harold, Landry, Yeah Carlon davis on one, Side Christian

749
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: gonzalez to the other. Side that was the, Vision, like

750
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: that's that's the, defense, right that's the core or the

751
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: foundation of the defense. There did you take anything away from.

752
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: BARMORE i know it's you, know non padded practice for defensive,

753
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: linemen BUT i guess like the one takeaway is just

754
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: it was good to see him out.

755
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: There.

756
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: YEAH i, mean he had told us he'd been, cleared

757
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: so you knew he was going to be out, There

758
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: BUT i cleared could mean so many other, things, right and,

759
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: like all, right, well is he going to be out

760
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: there standing?

761
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: Around is he only going to do?

762
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: Individual he didn't come off the field like he was

763
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: out there as much As Milton williams and any of

764
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: those other, Guys so not just like cleared for, action

765
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: but it didn't look limited at, all which is obviously.

766
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 4: Encouraging and like you, said it's a medical.

767
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: Thing you Never it's not like he's trying to come

768
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: back from a, hamstring, right, Right so you never, know

769
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: and you hope for the best, Obviously but it looks

770
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: like he's at least his things stand right. Now looks

771
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: like he's in as good a place as he can.

772
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 6: Be.

773
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah the other thing with the defensive line just THAT

774
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: i thought was notable is JUST i feel Like Keon

775
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: white is such AN x factor for this, group not

776
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: that he was bad by any means last. Year he

777
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: was a good player for them last, year you, know

778
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: forty five quarterback. Pressures he was a good. Player he's disruptive,

779
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: player but it was. Inconsistent it obviously was really good

780
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: early and then kind of tailed off as the season went.

781
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: On but he was getting more. Attention and you, know

782
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: there's no Bar more at least not at full tilt last,

783
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: year and there's nobody else really for offensive linemen and

784
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: offensive coordinators to worry about or scheme, about you, know

785
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: game plan for during the. Week But Keon white to,

786
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: me is a REAL x factor like this this group

787
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: could be the defensive line in particular in their front

788
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: like they could be really a border line elite if

789
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: he takes that next step, right because you if you

790
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: assume That barmore is gonna be, himself WHICH i get

791
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: is also a little bit of a of a leap

792
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: if you, will you know what you're getting In Milton.

793
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: Williams SO i, think you, know maybe as a run,

794
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 2: defender there's still some unknown, there but you feel pretty

795
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: good that you're getting a really good player In Milton.

796
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: Williams If Keon white takes that next step forward and

797
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: he's more consistent and he's more gap, sound and he's you,

798
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: know keeping the quarterback in the. Pocket he's playing a

799
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: little bit more as like a four to three defensive

800
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: end with his hand in the dirt and allowing him

801
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 2: to kind of get up the field and not worry

802
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: so much about containment and things like. That that, that

803
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: to me put like makes the elevates them even. More

804
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: like that could really push this group on the defensive

805
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: line up another. Level i'm excited to see what they

806
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: do With Keon white BECAUSE i thought in the old

807
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: scheme he's kind of too big to be a three

808
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: to four outside linebacker up on his, feet he's like

809
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: too heavy for. That but then he wasn't quite big

810
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: enough to be like a two gapping defensive. End so

811
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: he's kind of a, tweeter but as a four to three,

812
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: end you, know rushing the quarterback and getting up the.

813
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: Field like you can see a vision there for Ke

814
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: On white being a really disruptive.

815
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: Player oh, Yeah, NO i think that he's somebody who's

816
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: definitely gonna benefit from this system. CHANGE i think did

817
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: he's probably better fit In rabel's defense than the one

818
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: he was. In, yeah let's talk a little. Rookies, uh

819
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: we Saw Will campbell at mini. Camp rather mean to

820
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: go from Ke On white like those two, guys we

821
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: saw him go at it a. Ton it's gonna be

822
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: a really good and this is no unpadded so you

823
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: really can't take off from. It but just the idea

824
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: THAT i think there's gonna be a lot of those

825
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: two guys head to head in one on ones in.

826
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: Team it's gonna be a great opportunity For Will campbell

827
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: because Key On white stylistically is the kind of player

828
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: that Gave campbell the most.

829
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 2: Trouble now, yeah, big, long, physical uh you, know good

830
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: good off the. Ball absolutely So Will campbell, aside because,

831
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: look there's not a ton to clean right now About Will.

832
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: Campbell he can watch his, footwork he can watch how he,

833
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: moves but we already knew he moved, well like he's

834
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: a great, Athlete like he's gonna move. Well the one

835
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 2: guy that we didn't see At Rookie mini camp WHO

836
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: i thought was impressive yesterday Was Trevon, Henderson patriots second round.

837
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: Pick he is just a brick house first of, All

838
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: like he's just well built, guy not, big like he's

839
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: not you, know he's Not Derrick, henry but like he's

840
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: for his, size he's extremely well, built like there's a

841
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: compact kind of denseness to his. FRAME i thought his

842
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: explosiveness and his speed was evident just watching him from

843
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: the eye, TEST i thought he looked. Quick he looked,

844
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: fast looks. Balanced he, was you, know catching screens and

845
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: kind of jitterbugging around a little bit as well on

846
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: some of those. Plays i'm bullish on this. GUY i

847
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be a really big impact player for,

848
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: them and not a running backs, guy but this guy

849
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 2: because of his impact that he can make in the passing,

850
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: game both as a pass catcher and as a. BLOCKER

851
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: i just think that adds a dimension of big playability

852
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 2: that they just didn't. HAVE i think he looked looked

853
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: apart and then some to me.

854
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: And the burst like when he gets in the open,

855
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: field seeing it in, person when he gets to that

856
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: top gear is really. Something how quick he can do

857
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: it and what that top gear. Is so, yeah he.

858
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: Was he was fun to watch.

859
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: Yesterday, Yeah Kyle, WILLIAMS i thought again stacked, Today LIKE

860
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: i think he gets open now it's OTA's there's no,

861
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: contact so you can't you can't get your hands on.

862
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,959
Speaker 2: Anybody you can't you, know hit anybody over the middle

863
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: of the. Field there's no. Contact so in this, setting

864
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: a receiver Like Kyle williams should, shine like this should

865
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: be The Kyle Williams. Show but to his, credit you,

866
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: know he did get open a couple of. Times yesterday

867
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: you mentioned the opacity caught along the sideline on the.

868
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: OUT i thought he was initially flashed open on that

869
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: deep ball That Christian gonzalez picked. OFF i thought he

870
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: created the separation at the top of the. Route the

871
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: one thing THAT i would say With Kyle williams And

872
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: drake may Is Kyle williams to, me is a type

873
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: of receiver that you can't, overthrow like you instead of

874
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: throwing the ball to a spot where he has to

875
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: then elevate and like kind of win a jump ball

876
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: down the, field you've got to lead him and you

877
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: got to let him just run underneath it because he's

878
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: not a big, dude so he's not a jump ball.

879
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: Receiver so more THAT i see him in, PERSON i

880
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: know other people have had this comp or have mentioned this.

881
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: CALL i do kind of see a little bit Of

882
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: Brandon cooks in, Him LIKE i think he's got a

883
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: similar size to. Him obviously great. Speed not quite as

884
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: fast in terms of time speed As Brandon, cooks BUT

885
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: i think he plays really. Fast and then also just

886
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: the way he runs routes and the way he, SEPARATES

887
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: i think has a little bit Of Brandon, cooks but

888
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: Like Brandon, cooks like he's not he's not, big he's not,

889
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: Tall he's not gonna win jump. Balls his place rank

890
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 2: is going to be a question. Mark like those things

891
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: are all gonna be things they have to work around

892
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: or have to work. With but on that play, again

893
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 2: like If Drake may just puts it ten yards out

894
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: in front of him and lays it out for, him

895
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: THEN i would much rather See Kyle williams try to

896
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: run underneath it than have to go high point the

897
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: ball in between two. Defenders so they'll work on that

898
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 2: kind of stuff and they'll get that kind and stuff ironed.

899
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: Out but the good news is that we're not coming

900
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: in here and talking about How Kyle williams can't get,

901
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: open like he's definitely getting open. Now they just have

902
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: to figure out the catch points stuff and all that

903
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: kind of detail that comes.

904
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: Along, WELL i thought the other interesting thing And, look

905
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: it's just one, day so maybe this is what they

906
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: were working. On but that kind of guy In josh

907
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: McDaniel's offense traditionally has been a middle of the field. Guy,

908
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: yeah but both in terms of where he was aligning

909
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: and where he was. Running a lot of his routes

910
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: he was on the. Outside he was outside the, hatches

911
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: he was outside the. Numbers his two best routes of the,

912
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: day we're deep. Outs he caught one of, Them Josh

913
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: dobbs under through the, other But Kyle williams did his.

914
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: Part so, yeah he gets open, like he gets, open

915
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: he gets open on the. Outside, Yeah and this is

916
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: what they've been. Missing as much as they've struggled at

917
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver in recent, years there's a pretty consistent through

918
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: line of guys who can take care of themselves in

919
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: the middle of the, field From edelman To myers To.

920
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: Pop like it's different levels and they do it, differently

921
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: and obviously With pop there's like a health, thing but

922
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: when they're on the, field they're they're solid middle.

923
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 2: Of the field.

924
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: Options it's been that guy outside the numbers to stretch

925
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: the defense horizontally to open up the middle of the

926
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: field for that player that they've been. Missing so to

927
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: See Kyle williams being able not just, win but win

928
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: on the, outside that was my big takeaway from esterday

929
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: is because you, KNOW i was KINDA i wondered if

930
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: they were going to use him at THE x or

931
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,479
Speaker 1: was he going to be an inside. Guy it looks

932
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: like they're getting ready to play THE x play on

933
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: the outside and if he can get open on the,

934
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: outside like that's What Taekwon thornton was supposed to, be

935
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: So Nikhil harry was supposed to.

936
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: Be it's why they traded For Devonte.

937
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: Parker we can go through a lot of the wide

938
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: receiver moves they've made that they've missed on in the

939
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: last five to eight. Years we're, trying we're trying to

940
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: get that outside guy to draw attention out there and

941
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: open up the middle of the. Field Kyle williams stylistically

942
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: is very different than any of those. Players so he

943
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: is and To Brandon cooks is probably the last like

944
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: really good outside guy they, Had so that that was

945
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: encouraging to. Me Yesterday, again maybe yesterday it was, just,

946
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: hey today's the outside deck because he can play three.

947
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: Spots yesterday was the outside day For Kyle. Williams maybe

948
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: tomorrow he's back inside and they're gonna work him. Everywhere

949
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: BUT i did like not just seeing that he was

950
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: able to get, open but that he was able to

951
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: get open on the outside.

952
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: Based off of one, day based off of. Yesterday, yeah

953
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: the routes That Kyle williams was running reminded me a

954
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: lot of how McDaniel's Used Brandon. Cooks is that gonna,

955
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: HOLD i, Don't we'll, see, Right but in terms of

956
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: the where outs he was running, YESTERDAY i felt LIKE

957
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: i was kind of Watching Brandon cooks and the deep

958
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: ball That Drake may did throw to, him it, was you,

959
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: know he kind of moved into the line of scrimmage

960
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: a little, bit kind of gave him some more space

961
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: to set up the double move and runs a big double,

962
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: Move LIKE i remember it was In Mexico city against The,

963
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: Raiders brady threw a touchdown pass To Brandon cooks on that, route,

964
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: right like they like that is the type of stuff

965
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: that you know they were doing With cooks within the

966
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 2: framework of this. Offense so even though it is technically

967
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: outside and you know they are vertically stretching the, feet

968
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: it's still within the confines of like what mcdaniels's comfort

969
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: zones are, Right like they're still kind of pressuring the

970
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: middle of the. Field he's kind of closer to you,

971
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: know and more of like a reducer tight split and

972
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 2: not all the way out wide like in the max

973
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: split outside the. Numbers it's not in. Isolation just release

974
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: and run a go route and beat your. Guide there

975
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: might be some of, that but there's more nuance to

976
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: it than. That i'm excited to see how they continue

977
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: to stack that. Together but it had a little cook

978
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: see and feel to, me which is not a bad.

979
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: Thing LIKE i Love Brandon cooks, said we're Both brandon cook.

980
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: STANDS i. Believe, yeah so all Four Brandon. Cooks moving

981
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: on here to the other. Rookies Jared wilson we mentioned

982
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 2: and seemed limited didn't do a whole, time so skip over.

983
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: Him the one guy That I'M i need to watch

984
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 2: more of in practice and next WEEK i will do it,

985
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: because as you, know my eyes go towards the offense

986
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: like it just it's my favorite part of the. Game

987
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: it's also you, Know Drake mays the, franchise LIKE i

988
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: want to what the quarterback's, doing just happens to be

989
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: the way it. Is BUT i do feel like we

990
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: should talk about AND i THINK i need to watch

991
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: more Of Craig woodson BECAUSE i think he's starting to you,

992
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: know he had a couple of flashes In ricky. Minicamp

993
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: he had a flash yesterday and made a diving interception

994
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: on a tip. Pass is there a world Where Craig

995
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: woodson's more involved than maybe originally, thought or maybe not

996
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: even originally, thought but just more, INVOLVED i mean helved

997
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: as that third.

998
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: Safety, yeah, absolutely and he can play a bunch of

999
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 1: different spots and maybe it's not as that true free

1000
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: safety we thought they, needed but rotating with with dug

1001
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: And peppers.

1002
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: Certainly. YEAH i thought he was good. Yesterday he has

1003
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 2: a little bit more pure coverage, ABILITY i would say

1004
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: than the dugger And. Peppers Like duggar And, peppers we

1005
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: know what they're good, at their physical, safeties their downhill.

1006
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: Players they play in the. Box you, know they want

1007
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: to come, downhill take on, blocks you, know blitz maybe on,

1008
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: occasion you, know cover a tight end or so so

1009
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: on and so. FORTH i would say That woodson really

1010
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: feels more like a pure cover, safety like a guy

1011
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: that can play, nickel a guy that can play up,

1012
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: top that has you, know ball skills around the, football

1013
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: that can make plays on the. Ball so it's exactly

1014
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: what the doctor ordered in terms of skill sets and

1015
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: like putting that group. Together there's a very good chance

1016
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 2: and hand up BECAUSE i did not Have Craig woodson

1017
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: rated as highly as The patriots drafted. Him there's a

1018
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 2: very good chance this was The patriots a getting one

1019
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: on the old, media, right like this is a good

1020
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: scout by.

1021
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: Them.

1022
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 2: POTENTIALLY i think maybe they were right on this player

1023
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 2: and the media was wrong or the media was too,

1024
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: LOW i should say on. Him you know a lot

1025
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: of people had him as more like a mid to

1026
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: late day three, pick and The patriots picked him in

1027
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: the fourth. Round but maybe we were sleeping On Craig.

1028
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: WOODSON i was. Impressed was there any other rookies that

1029
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: they drafted guys before we get to the undrafted guys

1030
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: that stood out to?

1031
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: YOU i Mean Marcus bryant working with more And Moses,

1032
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: yeah along With Will CAMPBELL i thought was.

1033
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: Notable borgallis hit all four his. Kicks i'll let you

1034
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: get to the kickers in a second Two.

1035
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah it's it's like the free, agents Like day

1036
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: three is pretty much all.

1037
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: Defense, YEAH i would say That Doretty.

1038
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: Farmer wasn't out, there so so let's, uh let's talk

1039
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: a little bit about the undrafted rookies and then we'll

1040
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: circle back to the.

1041
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 4: Kickers But bregallis was drafted that come, on.

1042
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: Okay let's go kickers.

1043
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: First he hit all, four kind of hit the first

1044
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: one the first, One, no he, didn't so he.

1045
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: Didn't he was, good, yeah but didn't hit it.

1046
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: Right, yeah but there's something to be said for if

1047
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: you don't hit the ball right and it still goes,

1048
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: through it means your mechanics are probably pretty, clean good, consistency,

1049
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: Right so you don't want to see, it, obviously but

1050
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: when your mis hits are going, through that's generally a good.

1051
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: Sign.

1052
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: Uh and then drilled the other three And John Parker

1053
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: romo missed two a, four missed one wide, right miss one.

1054
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: Wide, left which kind of means he probably got in

1055
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 4: his head started. Overcompensating.

1056
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: Uh borgalis definitely starts with an edge just being drafted

1057
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: here in his kicker, competition but, big big win for him.

1058
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: Yesterday so way too early for This i'm gonna say it, anyways,

1059
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: Though is there a chance that we get through mini

1060
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: camp and they just decided that It's borgollis's, Job BECAUSE

1061
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: i think if he continues to kick like he did,

1062
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: yesterday every single day and he just passes all the

1063
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 2: tests you drafted the kid to begin, with that's already

1064
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: giving him a leg. Up like you really don't know

1065
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: anything To John Parker, Romo LIKE i guess the competition

1066
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: is always good throughout the, summer and it always helps

1067
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: to have two kickers in, camp maybe to a, degree

1068
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: but it just feels to me like something like the

1069
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: ground would really have to fall out from Underneath borgoalis

1070
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: for him to lose the.

1071
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 4: Job SO i think it depends on two.

1072
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: THINGS i do think it's possible that they make a

1073
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: decision before roster. Cuts but, one if they want to

1074
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: Keep John Parker romo in the practice squad is a,

1075
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: Backup you're probably not going to cut him In june

1076
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: and then reach down.

1077
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 4: To the practice squad late like that's not really how it.

1078
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: Works and, then like you, said do they just want

1079
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: to keep that element of competition to just keep the

1080
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: press sure up on? Board? Gallis you see how he handles,

1081
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: it that, alone to them may be worth that roster.

1082
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: Spot i'm not a kicker, expert don't pretend to, be

1083
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 2: but based off of WHAT i saw, YESTERDAY i thought

1084
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: he kicks the ball pretty, clean like he's a consistent,

1085
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: stroke which is what you want to look. For and,

1086
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: kickers you, know you can tweak things here and there

1087
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: if you have a, miss you, know a little, left little,

1088
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: right you tweak, things but you want to see it's

1089
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: like a golf. Stroke you want to see it the

1090
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 2: same every single. Time he's got a really consistent. Stroke

1091
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: and like you, said he kind of shanked that first

1092
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: one and it still went, through which tells you that

1093
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: he's dead. On he just kind of mishit it so.

1094
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: Just the WAY i heard, it AND i DON'T i

1095
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: wasn't close enough to see exactly what, happened but the way it,

1096
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: sounded the way he hit the, ball and just the

1097
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: way the ball flight, was my guess is he was

1098
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: like a tiny step probably, ahead and instead of because

1099
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: you want to hit the ball like sort of low

1100
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: right off the, GROUND i think he probably got up

1101
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: more towards the middle of the ball and that's why

1102
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: it went like.

1103
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 4: That so BUT i think his mechanics were. Clean he

1104
00:50:58,800 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: just didn't hit the ball in the.

1105
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: Rights, yeah, yeah all, right undrafted. Rookies it was you,

1106
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: know mini, camp rookie mini. CAMP i was all on Land.

1107
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: LARISON i was all excited About Minnie burkhead over. There

1108
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: this was A Efton chishm.

1109
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 4: Day, well, No Land larrison still got a ton of.

1110
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: Run but this was an Eft chism. Day, okay we'll

1111
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: Do chism Firstft chishm looked looked. Good this is more

1112
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: WHAT i was expecting from. You Afton chism looked. GOOD

1113
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 2: i told YOU i wasn't gonna do this with.

1114
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: RECEIVERS i already gushed About Kyle williams in a non,

1115
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: padded non contact.

1116
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 2: Realistic About Kyle Williams Efton, chisholm comparing him To Brandon,

1117
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: cooks who has like six one thousand yard. SEASONS i, mean,

1118
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: stylistically you're not. Wrong, yeah stylistically is a similar play

1119
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: and to be just really. Quickly but this is going.

1120
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 2: Backwards but the one element Of Kyle williams's, GAME i

1121
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 2: don't know if he has quite the like three level

1122
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: speed That cooks, does like to really be like an

1123
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: over the top vertical field.

1124
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: Stretchis at his peak was one of the top ten fastest, players, Right,

1125
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't know if he has quite but the

1126
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: one thing THAT i think he's better at Than cooks

1127
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: is he's a much better ball carrier and he's like

1128
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: much more aware of like.

1129
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: Spatial thing last year that he worked on going in

1130
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 2: the last. Year, Yeah like he took an end around

1131
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: yesterday and looked pretty smooth doing. That, LIKE i think

1132
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: there's that element that maybe he can make up for

1133
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: the fact that he's not quite as fast down the

1134
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: field As Brandon, cooks but he's maybe a little bit

1135
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 2: better with the ball in his. Hands that's an aside

1136
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: going To Afton. CHISHOLM i just think that he looks

1137
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: exactly HOW i expected him to. Look, Yeah like he's

1138
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: literally just the, Stereotype like he is a jitterbug slot

1139
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 2: receiver In josh McDaniels'. Offense and it seems to me

1140
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 2: Like josh McDaniels is already a little bit excited about

1141
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: this guy because he was getting a lot of. Run

1142
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: it was mostly With Josh, dobbs so like normally this

1143
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: time of, year that's what you take note of is

1144
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: like which quarterback is he throwing? Right which receivers is

1145
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: he running? With but he was running with some of

1146
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: the guys that have a chance to make the. Roster

1147
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: like it wasn't like all of his refs were, with you,

1148
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: know guys at the back end of the. Roster there

1149
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: were some reps there with some of the top.

1150
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: GUYS i, mean he WAS i would say he was

1151
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: with the second, group but he was featuring in that.

1152
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: Group he kind of reminded me just how he was

1153
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: used different player of Where Jacoby myers was at this

1154
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: point in twenty. Nineteen Like Kobe myers caught a ton

1155
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: of passes From Brian hoyer And Chariot, stadham but he

1156
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: was sort of the feature guy with that second, Group

1157
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: AND i think that's sort of he is a quarterback's

1158
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: best friend type of. Receiver he knows how to get.

1159
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 2: Open he knows where to get open against, Zone like

1160
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: he knows where the sauce spots are and the voids

1161
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 2: and how to sit and like how to find those.

1162
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: Areas he can separate against man to, man like he's

1163
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: got the quickness at the top of their had to.

1164
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: Separate had a few nice jump cuts in the open

1165
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: field yesterday where he made some guys. Miss there's not

1166
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: a lot of burst or straight line speed, there but

1167
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: there's a ton of just, savvy like just receiver. Savvy

1168
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: and even though it, might you, know some people want

1169
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: to move past, that the stereotype of That Wes, Welker Julian,

1170
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: Edelman DANNY. A, mondola a type of slot. Receiver there's

1171
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 2: always going to be a role for that type of

1172
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: player in this. Offense that type of player is always

1173
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: going to be able to thrive in this type of.

1174
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: Offense AND i just Think eft And chisholm just kind

1175
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 2: of checks that. Box, Now, yeah is he going to

1176
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: go out and be a star and be the Next Julian?

1177
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 5: Edelman?

1178
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: Like probably not, No BUT i thought he he looks

1179
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: the part of that type of, receiver AND i could

1180
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: see how you, know third and, six you need seven,

1181
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: yards LIKE i COULD i could see. IT i could

1182
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: see that guy being a reliable player for a, quarterback

1183
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: a chain. Mover, yeah, YEAH i.

1184
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: Agree i'll talk About Lean, Larson i'll talk about your

1185
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: guy because he got like he was on the field

1186
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: with the top. Unit, yeah quite a. Bit and that's

1187
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: With Romander stevenson nut, there so it comes with that.

1188
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: Caveat but you talk about that third running back, spot

1189
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: kind of seems like he's Pushing Antonio gibson.

1190
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: Already he has some. Bursts.

1191
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah now the top end speed is it is he

1192
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: the fastest running? Back, no but his bill to get

1193
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: to his top speed out Of cutts is like those

1194
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: like first ten five to ten. Yards, yeah he is

1195
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: kind of shot out of a. Cannon so they were

1196
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: using him in some pony, looks WHICH i thought was

1197
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: interesting because that's a little more advanced than maybe the

1198
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: basic stuff you're gonna run with the guys you plan

1199
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: on just having out there for the. Preseason SO i

1200
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: thought it was an encouraging day for him.

1201
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: Yesterday both those, GUYS i definitely you can see how

1202
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: they fit into this. McDaniels you know the, role you've

1203
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: seen the role, before you know the look of, it

1204
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: you know the type of, player and both those guys

1205
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 2: fit into those you, know that third down pass catching,

1206
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 2: back you, Know rex burkehead type of, role maybe even

1207
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: if you're projecting him to be a little bit more

1208
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 2: well rounded in terms Of laris and then obviously the

1209
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: slot receiving. Role For, chisholm like you see. It, yeah

1210
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: those are the types of guys that you see it.

1211
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: With and, YEAH i probably mentioned this After Rookie, minicamp

1212
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: but you, know With, CHISHOLM i was talking To Eric

1213
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: galco who's the director of The Shine, bowl and you

1214
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: know he's he was, Legitimately eric was legitimately upset with

1215
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 2: teams that they Let chishim go undrafted because of the forty,

1216
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: Time like the forty time is why he went. Undrafted

1217
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: and his production was just off the charts At Eastern.

1218
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: Washington and he was just exactly the type of receiver that's,

1219
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 2: quick not, fast and is just what he, is, Right

1220
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: he's just the type of receiver that he, played type

1221
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: of role that he, plays and And eric really felt

1222
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: like he should have been drafted and thought that he

1223
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: was a lot of people, thought you, know better than other,

1224
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: guys you know, better you know than some of the

1225
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: other players in that mold that did get. Drafted SO

1226
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: i think there's some excitement there For ft and Chisel

1227
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: man layers a.

1228
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: Cup, More udfa takes yeah real. Quick the guy that

1229
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: a guy we talked a lot of coming out Of

1230
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: Rookie Minie.

1231
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 2: Camp that we didn't see as much of WAS. Cj. Dupree,

1232
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: yeah it actually.

1233
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: Looks like It's jack West over that maybe he has

1234
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: the early inside track on that third tight end.

1235
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: Spot For jack.

1236
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: West, over that's the guy that's dealt with some injuries

1237
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: and there's some talent there there. Is he's been, hurt

1238
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: but you, know so that'll be something to. Watch you

1239
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 1: gotta give me like thirty seconds On Ben wooldridge because

1240
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: you were to me for. This YEAH i said, this

1241
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: and you kind of rolled your. Eyes but there's something to.

1242
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: This Ben woldridge knows how to be a backup.

1243
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 2: Quarterback it's just such a the WAY i, Rolled and

1244
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: no disrespect To Ben. WOOLRIDGE i rolled my eyes in

1245
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: disrespect to you because it's such a you take like it's, like,

1246
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: oh that guy doesn't actually have aspirations to be a.

1247
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: Start THAT i don't mean it THAT i don't mean

1248
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: it the sense he doesn't have aspirations to be a.

1249
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: Starter but this will make sense in a. Second he's

1250
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: in college for seven. Years he started nineteen, games eleven

1251
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: to them were last. Season some of that was due to,

1252
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: injuries but like we heard this last, year a lot

1253
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: With Drake may when he was Behind Jacoby, versett and

1254
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: then With Joe milton about how there's only so many

1255
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: reps available at the quarterback position and how do you

1256
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: get better when you're maybe not out?

1257
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: There And Ben woldridge is a guy who has.

1258
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: Been in that spot quite a bit AND i think

1259
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: he knows how to make the most of. It and

1260
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: WHAT i mean by that which stood out to. Me

1261
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: we heard a lot last year about mental. Reps that

1262
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: was a big talking point this time last. Year this

1263
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: is such a where and you see it where the

1264
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: rest of the when they're running, team the rest of

1265
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: the offenses on the, sideline the quarterback and this isn't,

1266
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: uncommon quarterback will go stand about ten fifteen yards behind the,

1267
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: offense directly behind the quarterback that's in the live, drill

1268
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: usually next to the offensive coordinator one of the, coaches

1269
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: and you'd stand back there so you can see, it

1270
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: and you mentally go through in your, head all, right

1271
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: this is WHAT i would do AS i see it.

1272
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 1: Happen Ben woldridge took that to another. LEVEL i don't

1273
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: remember seeing anybody do it to this level. Before he's

1274
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: miming the entire thing where literally down in the quarterback state.

1275
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: Mic, yeah he's.

1276
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: Pointing out the, mic he's going through the full. Drop

1277
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: it looked like its synked up at. Times so this

1278
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: was when they were split. Fields it Was Drake may

1279
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: on one, side Then dobbs And woldridge on the, Other

1280
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: like it synked up perfectly With dobbs and it looked

1281
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: like a glitch in the. Matrix but there's also times

1282
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: where like he's pointing out the mic back behind the

1283
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: play Before dobbs, did and so it's like he's really

1284
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: making the MOST i think of the situation he's in

1285
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: and we ultimately he's got to make, plays and he

1286
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: didn't have a ton of.

1287
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 4: Reps it was a lot more favorite Towards dobbs on

1288
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 4: that side of the.

1289
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: Field and, Yeah i'm sure he'll get more chances once

1290
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: we get into the summer and obviously the, preseason and

1291
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to make. Plays but for a guy

1292
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: that's probably in the outside looking in For ross or,

1293
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: SPOT i don't think it's, impossible but in the outside

1294
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: looking in or we know they're going to keep a

1295
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: third quarterback on the practice, squad but prove he can

1296
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: be that. Guy this coaching staff that talks so much

1297
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: about being involved in you know that that level of

1298
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: engagement all. That, ye that kind of process is something

1299
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna go over well for, them go over

1300
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: well with.

1301
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: Them so it was.

1302
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: Interesting it was kind of fascinating to. See i've never

1303
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: seen anybody do. That it's probably a good thing for

1304
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: him if. It you, know he has to make plays

1305
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the. Day that's not saying he's

1306
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: going to Push dobbs for the backup job or, anything

1307
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: but it was it was an interesting. Process the third string,

1308
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: quarterback weirdly, enough is going to be talked about on

1309
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: this team locked. In, well, no it's going to be

1310
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: talked about because they Traded Joe, milton sure, right and

1311
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: so it's going to.

1312
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: Be something we.

1313
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: Discussed and So Ben waldridge is going to be somebody come.

1314
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: Preseason if he doesn't look, good why they Trade Joe?

1315
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: Milton or if he looks, good see that's why they

1316
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: Traded Joe. Milton it's, weird but you know people are

1317
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: going to do. That so it's interesting to watch his

1318
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: process and it is a fascinating process to.

1319
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: Me so that was a lot of time On Ben.

1320
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: WOOLRIDGE i will he's if he's the third, Quarterback it's like,

1321
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: fine it's, fine he's if he's on the practice, squad

1322
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: if he's on the. ROSTER i would probably prefer him

1323
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: to just be on the practice. SQUAD i, know you

1324
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: know that makes it harder at the emergency quarterback and

1325
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: all that kind of. Stuff BUT i if he's a

1326
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: third quarterback in, camp, camp barham and then a practice,

1327
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: squad you, know the third, qbeah totally.

1328
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: Cool, look we know they're going to keep it third

1329
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: quarterback somehow, somewhere whether it's on the practice squad or

1330
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,959
Speaker 1: the active. Roster is it him or are they gonna

1331
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: have to go get, somebody you, know maybe after spring,

1332
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: practices before camp or after camp or. Something and so

1333
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: it's the quarterback. Position everything's under a, microscope and can

1334
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: he be that guy or they have to going to

1335
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: go get somebody. ELSE i like his, Process that's basically my.

1336
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: TAKEAWAY i like his. Process all.

1337
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: Right so that was day two overall of. OTAs we

1338
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: didn't mention one. Thing day one of OPEN. Oto we should.

1339
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 4: Give Javon baker credit made the catch of the. Day

1340
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 4: we didn't talk about.

1341
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: It he did still in the mix which we kind

1342
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: of wondered how much he'd be made a great. Catch

1343
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: he's the one guy That Beacon soalies boxed him out

1344
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: on a comeback back shoulder play back shouldered.

1345
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 2: A Great he made a great. Catch you did make a.

1346
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: Catch you were also we were talking during practice About Jalen.

1347
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: POLKHO i believe it's a shoulder right that he heard

1348
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: at the very end of last. Year, yes and he.

1349
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: Was he was off to the, side but he was

1350
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,959
Speaker 2: working With i'm blanking on a coach's, Name Rolly Larkin Riley.

1351
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: State they hire From Ohio. State it seemed like they

1352
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: were running the offense like they were going through the

1353
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: routes that he would be running if he was. Participating

1354
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 2: so he's kind of Like, woolridge like he's trying to

1355
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: take those mental reps and stay locked. In it doesn't

1356
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: seem like he's he's a full go yet in terms

1357
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: of participating in team. Drills So jalen poll kind, of you,

1358
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 2: know still pacing his way. Back Javon baker made a

1359
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: nice play on that back shoulder. FADE i thought he

1360
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: could have finished a cash down the field potentially too

1361
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: that he, didn't but could play on him on that

1362
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: back shoulder. Fade i'll say the same Thing i've always

1363
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: said About Javon. Baker it's not talent like the. Guy

1364
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: the guy has. Ability he's got a lot of talent

1365
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 2: and probably would have been drafted even higher if it

1366
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: wasn't for all the other stuff he's. Got it to,

1367
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: me he has to prove that he can be locked

1368
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: in like that mentally bought, in locked in on the,

1369
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: system you know that that whole. Thing, like if he

1370
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 2: can prove that he can do all of that and

1371
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 2: every it's not the thing about being in THE nfl

1372
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: is it can't be once a week like it has

1373
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 2: to be every single, Day, right you have to come

1374
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: out and you have to be one hundred percent every,

1375
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 2: Day like that's how you have to be if You're Javon.

1376
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: Baker if he can do, that which has been a

1377
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: little bit of a, Concern but if he can do,

1378
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: that THEN i think he's got all the ability in

1379
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: the world to make this roster and push for playing

1380
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: time because it's not a great receiver. Room it's not

1381
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: like there's a bunch of studs in front of him

1382
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: at that, position especially Until diggs comes, back you, know

1383
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: there is wide open there in terms of reps with this.

1384
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: Group SO i still think That Javon baker Or Jalen

1385
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 2: polk can make a. Push But Jalen polk's got to

1386
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 2: get out there. Again, Obviously Javon baker's got every single

1387
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 2: day he's got to be locked. In it doesn't mean

1388
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: he has to be first one, in last one out

1389
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: like he doesn't have to be a, cliche but you

1390
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: just have to be as locked in as you possibly

1391
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: can be on all those. Days so that's uh OTAs

1392
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: we took a lot away from one day OF. Ota

1393
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: so that's what we do in a, WEEK i bet

1394
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 2: you you know will probably none of it will. Matter

1395
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: hopefully in a couple of, weeks hopefully none of those

1396
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: interceptions that we talked about at the beginning of the

1397
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: show will have any. Credence but what we're going to transition,

1398
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: now we'll take your phone, calls we'll take your. Email

1399
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: else open up the show, here maybe talk a little

1400
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 2: bit of push. PUSH i know you have a take

1401
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: on that the receding proposal by The Detroit lyons also

1402
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: being provoked or tabled or, whatever So i'll talk about that.

1403
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: Too but before we open it up to you. Guys

1404
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: support the home. Team Join New england's events staff here

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Speaker 2: places all, Right let's go to the. PHONES i know

1413
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: you guys have been. WAITING i apologize as. ALWAYS i

1414
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: don't know if this is, on trying to figure that,

1415
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: out maybe not stalling doing my. Best let me, See

1416
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: i'll fix. It Maybe alex can fix, it maybe Other.

1417
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: Alex can you pull up those? Calls you can pull

1418
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 2: Up sean for us, first because he's been waiting the. Longest,

1419
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: Sewan you're, there what's?

1420
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: Up?

1421
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 2: Sewn all?

1422
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 7: Right i'm, here we got. YOU i have a comp

1423
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 7: for twelve rookies AND i just wanted to hear your

1424
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 7: opinions on What i'm, Guessing so we'll start With Will.

1425
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 7: CAMPBELL i Have Colts Bernard, raymond running Back Travon. HENDERSON

1426
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 7: i Have, Packers Aaron, jones wide, Receiver Carl. WILLIAMS i

1427
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 7: Have Broncos Marvin nim's, Center Jared, Wilson BROWN'S Jc, tretter

1428
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 7: Safety Craig Woodson, Titans Comoni, hooker The intensive defensive Tackle Joshua,

1429
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 7: farmer multiple Teams Carlos, watkins Edge Brandon, Swinston, Saints Carl, granderson,

1430
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 7: Kicker Andy Borack, Gallas, Browns Dustin, hopkins left, Tackle Marcus, Bryant,

1431
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 7: Lions Dan, skipper long Snapper Julian, Ashby, Texans john we

1432
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 7: Quarnerback Kobe MINOR cfl multiple team At gainey and IF

1433
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 7: udfa pullback Brock lamp The allions of Course. Lessenger so

1434
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 7: let me know.

1435
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 3: What you guys.

1436
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: Think, Thanks Thanks, Sean thanks for research. There, YEAH i

1437
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: love doing. Comps it's one of my favorite parts of draft.

1438
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 2: Season i'd just love to think about, it and it's

1439
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 2: just a cool way to kind of encapsulate a. Prospect

1440
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: and no one is saying that those guys are going

1441
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 2: to be one for one are exactly their careers but

1442
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 2: it's just a cool way to encapsulate. It i've heard

1443
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: The Bernard raymond comp a time For Will. CAMPBELL i

1444
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: would say That raymond is a little bit what's the,

1445
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 2: WORD a little bit, wider a little bit, longer but

1446
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: not as. NASTY i Think Will campbell's got a little

1447
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: bit more of an edge to him Than Bernard. Raymond

1448
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 2: BUT i think that's a decent. ONE i think that's

1449
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 2: a good. One With Travon. HENDERSON i see a lot

1450
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 2: Of Breeze hall In Travon. Henderson that's just my com

1451
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 2: Form Aaron, JONES i GUESS i could kind of see

1452
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: that as, well you, know more of a speed. Guy

1453
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: Kyle williams With Marvin. Mims mimms had a good rookie.

1454
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 5: Year.

1455
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: YEAH i really Like Marvin mims coming. OUT i Think

1456
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: mims is a little bit more of a. Returner, yeah

1457
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: he's also he has more ball. SKILLS i don't know

1458
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: that he's the the.

1459
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: Separator, YEAH i hear. You, Yeah, no those are good,

1460
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: comps THOUGH i agree with a lot of.

1461
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: THEM i like The Marcus Bryant Dan skipper. One that's

1462
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: actually a good, one big athletic tackle that you can

1463
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: probably get creative With if you want swing tackle, potential

1464
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna, be you, know, backup fringe. Starter but

1465
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: there's value in that. Guy that's actually that's a good

1466
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: Comp Dan.

1467
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,439
Speaker 2: Skipper Dan skipper has carved out a real nice career

1468
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: for himself In. Detroit, Okay Marcus brian ends up Being

1469
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: Dan skipper and he's you, know there a third tackle

1470
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: a tackle eligible guy can spot star like, That Dan

1471
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 2: skipper is a solid. PRO i Think Dan skipper at

1472
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: a seventh round. Pick all. Day all, Right patty is an.

1473
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 2: Aguam what's Up patty?

1474
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 8: Gentlemen, hey just a couple of things. Today first. Thing,

1475
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 8: FIRST i Know i'm just a fan in my opinion doesn't,

1476
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 8: matter But i'm lobbying For alex to get to the

1477
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 8: joint practices insane In minnesota ninety eighty. Five if you're,

1478
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 8: listening get our guys or get your guy. There, great

1479
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 8: that's the first. Thing AND i wanted to get your

1480
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 8: guys opinion on. SOMETHING i really feel, like especially if

1481
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 8: they go into the season, healthy that this defense could

1482
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 8: really hit the ground running this. Year AND i, think

1483
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 8: especially if they're able to generate some good pass, rush

1484
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,799
Speaker 8: especially from the, INSIDE i think those two outside corners

1485
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 8: are going to feast AND i think you, know it

1486
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 8: might be quarterway midway through the season where the offense

1487
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 8: hits its. STRIDE i just want to get your guys

1488
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 8: opinion on. That i'll take it off the. Air as,

1489
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 8: always the guys are the.

1490
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,759
Speaker 2: Best, Thanks, patty appreciate. IT i don't know if You

1491
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: you probably don't know about, this But fred asked me

1492
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 2: how you were doing yesterday on the. Show, OKAY i,

1493
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 2: said you're doing. GREAT i nothing the faarius about, that

1494
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 2: BUT i said that we're hoping that you're going to

1495
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 2: get to joint Practices. Minnesota And fred gave a whole

1496
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 2: speech at the end of the show that you should

1497
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 2: show your bosses about why you should be going to

1498
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: join practices In. Minnesota he did not say that you

1499
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: would be coming with. Us he said ninety EIGHT i

1500
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: should send, you but he.

1501
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 4: Did have the whole. SPEECH i appreciate. That frill to

1502
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 4: check it.

1503
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,759
Speaker 2: Out, yeah you should check it. Out it was good

1504
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 2: AND i think he takes like you, know he jokingly

1505
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: maybe he took a little bit of credit for getting

1506
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 2: you to the, combine which was obviously not, him but

1507
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 2: where he gave the same a similar speech about the

1508
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: combine and talk that into. Existence so maybe he's going

1509
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 2: to talk this into existence for you as. Well when

1510
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 2: will the offense hit it? Stride it's a good. Question

1511
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: there's some elements to, it like When's dig's, Healthy LIKE

1512
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 2: i think that's a big. Question you, know if that's

1513
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: not until midway through the, season then you know you

1514
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 2: don't really see the whole offense at its full. CAPACITY

1515
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 2: i think a lot of people were hoping that we

1516
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: were going to come into this season and even On may,

1517
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 2: twentieth we were going to immediately be talking about a

1518
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 2: year or two leap From drake may, right that it

1519
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 2: was going to be, immediate that he was going to

1520
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: come in more, confident he was going to come in,

1521
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: better and it was just gonna, be you, know flip

1522
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 2: the switch and we're hit the ground. Running this might

1523
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 2: be like a two step you, know one step back

1524
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 2: to go two steps forward situation because of the coaching,

1525
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 2: change and so it could take a little bit more.

1526
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 2: Time but with that being, SAID i still feel like

1527
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 2: by midway through training camp he will it will click

1528
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: just like it did for him last. Year LIKE i

1529
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: think we're gonna be on a similar. Trajectory now he's

1530
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: going to start week, One he's not gonna start week. Five,

1531
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: like we're not gonna have that whole. Thing BUT i

1532
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 2: think that there's gonna be a similar timeline or path

1533
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 2: here just because of THE oc change its second year

1534
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: quarterback to change. Coordinators so obviously there's gonna be a

1535
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 2: little bit of an adjustment or a learning. Curve BUT

1536
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 2: i won't start worrying about it until we're probably through

1537
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 2: Those minnesota joint practices and it's still not.

1538
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: Clicked let's, say once you get to the, preseason that's

1539
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: where that's where it gets a little more, Worrisome, yeah

1540
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: because that's when you start like the competitive portion and

1541
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 1: preparing really preparing for you, know you're always preparing for the,

1542
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: season but like really preparing for like The Raider raiders

1543
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: and stuff like. That All, Right randy is In. Providence what's?

1544
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 5: Up?

1545
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 3: Randy here goes how's it?

1546
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 9: Going?

1547
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 2: Hey?

1548
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 3: Good, so like The ota takeaways, yesterday LIKE i, Thought morgan,

1549
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 3: moses that guy has got to be the best value

1550
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 3: signing of the off, season.

1551
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: Maybe in the WHOLE.

1552
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 3: Nfl right the way he's kind of taken on that

1553
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 3: mentoring role and embraced it so, Much like he was

1554
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 3: even talking about giving Key On white tips that guy

1555
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 3: and having the locker right next To Will. Campbell just

1556
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 3: these small things that ARE i really think is going.

1557
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 5: To help a.

1558
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 3: Lot and he kind of like looks almost like an

1559
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 3: older player that's work like working on transitioning to a

1560
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 3: coaching career after his. Career MAYBE i don't, know but

1561
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 3: what do you guys think about, that like his? Future

1562
01:11:59,000 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: do you.

1563
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 6: Think he'll be a go in the.

1564
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 3: Future and then just question number two was about the

1565
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 3: fortune in foxboroughs heer as it came out they were

1566
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 3: talking about Like rabel was talking To bryant after they drafted, him,

1567
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 3: saying you, know derely impressed everybody when you came, here et.

1568
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 3: Cetera AND i was, thinking there's a lot of guys

1569
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 3: that did top thirty visits here that they ended up.

1570
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 3: Drafting do you guys think that's a trend that continues

1571
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 3: next year or do you think because a lot of

1572
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 3: teams the top thirty, visits they use them, differently you

1573
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 3: know WHAT i, Mean like some of the teams use

1574
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 3: them as a. Distraction some of the teams specifically don't

1575
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 3: bring in the guys they want to. Draft do you

1576
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 3: think this is kind of indicative of how this front

1577
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 3: office and team was going to operate throughout this.

1578
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: Regime, yeah it's a good, Question. RANDY i. DO i

1579
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: believe that there's going to be a lot of stock

1580
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 2: put into this Because Mike rabel is one of those

1581
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 2: types of, guys at least from What i've, observed that

1582
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 2: wants to sit across the table from somebody and try

1583
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 2: to look inside a guy's head and really kind of

1584
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: get to know the. Guy not only, that but, also you,

1585
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: know go put the pads on and actually you, know

1586
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 2: feel guys like he likes to, say on the offensive

1587
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 2: and defensive. Line they were setting it up really.

1588
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,759
Speaker 1: WELL i Know verrabel said he never wants to getting,

1589
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: out so maybe that's all. Right THOUGHT i thought we

1590
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: were going to see the. CLIP i thought they were

1591
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: setting it up to play the clip Of Will campbell

1592
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 1: Hitting Mike. Rabel But rabel seems serious about.

1593
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: IT i get.

1594
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 4: It he seems. Serious that clip is in the.

1595
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 2: Vault SO i definitely feel like whether it's thirty, visits

1596
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 2: we don't necessarily learn as much about private workouts pre,

1597
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 2: draft like The Will campbell workout as a private workout

1598
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 2: we didn't know about until after the. Draft but those

1599
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 2: types of things are going to mean something was going

1600
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 2: to hold more weight BECAUSE i think he's that kind of.

1601
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: Cat Like rabel wants to get get to know the.

1602
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: Guy he wants to be across the table from you

1603
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: to study, you put you on the. Spot and that's

1604
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 2: another thing that you hear a lot about with, him

1605
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: that he wants to make you, uncomfortable like he doesn't

1606
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: know a lot of teams bring guys in to make

1607
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 2: them comfortable and get to know them like as. People

1608
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 2: rabel almost wants to test, you like he wants to

1609
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 2: make you uncomfortable and see how you react to.

1610
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 4: That SO i was watching this old. CLIP i don't

1611
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 4: know what it was.

1612
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: From it just kind of came up on my YouTube

1613
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: this morning Of it must have Been america's game with

1614
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: The Two.

1615
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 2: Bucks yeah In.

1616
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 4: Gruden, yeah and there's this this.

1617
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: Thing With John lynch who was, like, Yeah Tony duney

1618
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: would come out and tell, you all, right let's have

1619
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: a good. Day, Yeah Like ingruden would come out and

1620
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: tell You, Lynch i'm gonna throw five quick slants right

1621
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: through your.

1622
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 2: Ear there's nothing you could do.

1623
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 1: About, it like before practice and it's, like what the,

1624
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: Heck it's like a wake up. Call, Yeah AND i

1625
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: do think there's some of that With rabel where it's

1626
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 1: like that's kind of and it's not just about the thirty,

1627
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: visits just kind of his. Tone it's like he's encouraging

1628
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: you at the same time he's kind of calling you.

1629
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: Out so, YEAH i, REMEMBER i believe it. WAS i

1630
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: don't remember who wrote.

1631
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 2: It it was on The. Ringer i'll get the name

1632
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 2: in a. Second he wrote a piece On rabel going

1633
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 2: behind the scenes In. TENNESSEE i think it's like the

1634
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three, season right After

1635
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 2: rabel One coach of The, year and he had his

1636
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 2: story About Ben jones the. Center there is a longtime

1637
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: center for The titan Where rabel is an early, riser wakes,

1638
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 2: up you, know four or five o'clock in the. Morning

1639
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 2: sometimes he would wake up and he would Text Ben

1640
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 2: jones and he's already done like some insane peloton, ride

1641
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 2: right like, You i've already biked ten miles. Today what

1642
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: have you? Done you know that sort of, Thing And

1643
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 2: Ben jones, said every single morning you'd get a text

1644
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 2: From Mike rabel motivating him to go work, out, go you,

1645
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: know get his day started and all that kind of.

1646
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 2: Stuff that's just the type of guy that he. Is all,

1647
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 2: right let's go To pat In PA's panky news hang

1648
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 2: on that you were gonna. Live let's Take pat first

1649
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: and then we'll go do. It go, Ahead, pat hey.

1650
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 5: Boy two quick.

1651
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 9: Things, one why is the viy In Venerian low still

1652
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 9: on the?

1653
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 5: Team are very well?

1654
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 6: Cut these two off throat crosser restep one being.

1655
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 9: A character is who and the other being you, know

1656
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 9: an insurance sales and plane dress up as let's.

1657
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 8: Tackle and the second.

1658
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 5: Thing is and or season?

1659
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 8: Two have you?

1660
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 6: Watched what are your?

1661
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 9: Thoughts let me?

1662
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 6: Know?

1663
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: Thanks Thanks. Pat so it is not so much with

1664
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: A Venerian. LOW I i you, know, THOUGH i this

1665
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 2: time of, year you're gonna have like sixteen offensive linemen

1666
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 2: on the, roster so there's gonna be a lot of.

1667
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 2: Guys it is interesting to me just getting out there

1668
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: the holdovers, right especially on, Defense Tavay Anthony. Jennings you,

1669
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 2: know the two Safeties dugger And, peppers But jennings And.

1670
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: TAVAYA i really do find fascinating in particular because they

1671
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: definitely fit A belichick, defense like they're you, Know jennings

1672
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 2: is a three to four edgesetter through and through like

1673
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 2: that's what he does.

1674
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: Well it's an early down edge. Cetter you, Know tavai

1675
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: is A, belichick a fixer hybrid. Linebacker you know that

1676
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: those guys fit the old. System they fit the old.

1677
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 1: Defense it is interesting to me that those guys are still.

1678
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 1: Around not BECAUSE i don't think that they can, play

1679
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,759
Speaker 1: LIKE i think both those guys are solid football players

1680
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: when used, correctly but it DOES i don't know exactly

1681
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: where they fit into the, puzzle you, know where they

1682
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: kind of cut some of the guys that didn't fit the,

1683
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: puzzle you, know So i'm interested to see what. HAPPENS

1684
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: i don't know what he was talking about with the other.

1685
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 2: THING i, think, like did he start it was one

1686
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: of The Star WARS tv, shows, Right oh, Yeah, NO

1687
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 2: i don't do THE tv shows as much AS i.

1688
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 2: SHOULD i lost the plot and kind of. SURPRISE i

1689
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 2: watched The Obi Wan kenobi one that was like kind

1690
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 2: of like a short, right it wasn't like a full

1691
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: on show where there's multiple. Seasons i've watched season one

1692
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 2: Of MANDALORIAN i. DIDN'T i haven't watched the more recent. Ones,

1693
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 2: yeah not not so. Much but what did you want

1694
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: to tell?

1695
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 6: Me?

1696
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: Uh the they announced this Year's Hard knocks. Team, yeah

1697
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 1: The Buffalo. Bills that makes a lot of. Sense that

1698
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 1: doesn't make it's THE mvp of the.

1699
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 2: LEAGUE i thought you don't do it if you were

1700
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 2: in the playoffs last. Year, Though, no you. Can't it's

1701
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 2: you might be able to opt. OUT i don't. KNOW

1702
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: i don't remember the. Rules the rules are escaping. ME i.

1703
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: Do you can do it when you're in the, playoffs

1704
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: but it's when you embarrass yourself in the playoffs is

1705
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 1: one you can?

1706
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 2: Do there we. GO i do know that you. Can,

1707
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: uh if you switch, coaches, right you're you're automatically. Out

1708
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: so that's why you know The patriots couldn't be. It but,

1709
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 2: yeah that's interesting one that They're they're an exciting. Team

1710
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 2: people like The. BILLS i know you don't like The.

1711
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: Bills you don't understand. IT i thought you, KNOW i understand,

1712
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: it and that's WHY i don't like. YOU i thought

1713
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 2: you were going to tell me something, different and you

1714
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: can segue into the the in. Season uh is going

1715
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 2: to be THE Nfc, east by the, Way so maybe

1716
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 2: More Joe shane On Hard. Knocks That's Jerry Jones specials

1717
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 2: what that. Is, Yeah so a couple of things from

1718
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 2: the league meetings this week that we wanted to talk.

1719
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: About i'll get to your your toush push take in a,

1720
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 2: second but this is one that just came across THAT

1721
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 2: i absolutely. LOVE i think this is awesome and long

1722
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 2: overdue to give the big boys up front some. Love,

1723
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 2: so according To Troy, vincent THE nfl Executive Troy, vincent

1724
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: they have a new award that they're going to give

1725
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 2: away at the end of the. Season with THE mvp

1726
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 2: and all the other, awards this is going to go

1727
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 2: to the best offensive lineman in the. League they're gonna

1728
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 2: call It protector of The. Year it's the best offensive

1729
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 2: lineman in THE. NFL i love. THIS i think this

1730
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 2: is long. Overdue no offensive lineman's ever gonna Win rookie

1731
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 2: of The year OR mvp Or Offensive player of The.

1732
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 2: Year it's just not gonna. Happen they're never gonna get that.

1733
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 2: Award you, Know Pass rusher could get that. Award Aaron

1734
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 2: donald has won like a Million Defensive player of the.

1735
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 2: Years like it's possible for defensive line players to get,

1736
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 2: awards and it's never possible for an offensive lineman to

1737
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 2: get an award like this other than you, Know All

1738
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 2: pro Or Pro. BOWL i absolutely love. IT i think

1739
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 2: this is. Awesome you, KNOW i don't know who it's named,

1740
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: after if it, is but they deserve. Protector it's Called

1741
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 2: protector of The. Year, YEAH i don't know if it's

1742
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 2: LIKE i don't, Know Thomas trophy or something like.

1743
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: That, baseball like for relievers was the Delivery man of

1744
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: The year for a, While SO i like.

1745
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 2: That it's kind of creative like. THAT i love. THIS

1746
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 2: i think that it's long overdue that they get some.

1747
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 2: RECOGNITION i think you could make a strong case every

1748
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 2: single year that there's certain linemen that are the most valuable.

1749
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 2: Players you are the. Best you. Know last Year rookie

1750
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 2: of The year obviously goes To Jaden daniels in a,

1751
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 2: runaway as it should, have but, like there is a

1752
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 2: really good case to be made that Besides, Daniels Joe

1753
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 2: alt was the best rookie in the ENTIRE, nfl but

1754
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: he was never gonna win that, Award and If daniels didn't.

1755
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 2: Exist it was going to go to Like Molik neighbors

1756
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 2: or something like. That so the lineman gets some, love

1757
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 2: AND i think that that's.

1758
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: Awesome well maybe and maybe there's a rookie version of

1759
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: this to come down the road.

1760
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 2: TOO i do like.

1761
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: It the next, step and this is either side of the,

1762
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: ball offense or. Defense we got to get a linement

1763
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: on the cover Of. Madden Joe THOMAS i thought was

1764
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: a good. SHOT Jj watt would have been. Great obviously

1765
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: too late, There Pina, seul especially if The lions make

1766
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 1: like another run pin A SEOUL i think could be

1767
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: a cover. Athlete Miles garrett on the defensive line could

1768
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: be a cover, athlete, RIGHT.

1769
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 4: I would think they Missed, Bodan Aaron donald or.

1770
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 1: Whatever but like we are, due and Sometimes madden will

1771
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: line up the cover with like innovations to the, game

1772
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: and they're the cycle in which they tweak things they're

1773
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: a little overdue, to like tweak their offensive defensive line.

1774
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: Logic so it's perfect you tweak, that put a lignment

1775
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: on the. Cover that's next. Step this is.

1776
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 2: Good next, Step let's get a lignman on the cover

1777
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 2: of Mad this is. Awesome LIKE i keep, SAYING i

1778
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 2: think that the linemen are so, underrated and we've seen

1779
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 2: it here for the last couple of. Years when you

1780
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 2: have a bad offensive, line it just rerecks your entire.

1781
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 2: Offense AND i get it's a five man unit and

1782
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 2: it's not about one guy, Necessarily but when you have

1783
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: A Trent, williams A Penny swl you, know when A Jarred,

1784
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: malada when you have a player like that that anchors

1785
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: your offensive line the way that it just makes your

1786
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 2: offense run both smoothly but also how much more dynamic

1787
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 2: your offense can. Be, like think about all the different

1788
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 2: things that The lions can do schematically in the run

1789
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 2: game because they Have Penny, sewel like all the different

1790
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 2: polls and all the different leads and all the different second,

1791
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 2: levels and all the things that he can do in,

1792
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 2: space and that unlocks like a whole dimension of their

1793
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 2: run game that other teams just simply can't.

1794
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: Test so that brings us to the logical, Question, yeah

1795
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: who who's your pick inaugural Winner protector of The Ear?

1796
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 2: Award IF i had to vote on guys last, Year,

1797
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: no who do you think is going to win it this?

1798
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 2: Year so here's my here's my two cents on. That,

1799
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,839
Speaker 2: okay the one concern THAT i. Have, yeah no offense

1800
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 2: to anybody in THE. Ap if this is just gonna

1801
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: be off OF, pff his highest graded offensive, lineman then

1802
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 2: we need to do, better, RIGHT i, Agree, yeah you

1803
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 2: have to find. It let's not this is.

1804
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: Weird we're talking about a position like, this disposition getting

1805
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: this award because they're always.

1806
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 2: Overlooked, yeah which is.

1807
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: True but now we have to say within, that let's

1808
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: not just make this a tackle. Award, yeah BECAUSE i

1809
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: feel like it could become that MAYBE i don't, know

1810
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: If Joe toney's just passed that. Window Like Joe, toney

1811
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: if they instituted, This Joe tuoney would have won three

1812
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: or four of these are like Prime Zach martin would have.

1813
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 2: Won About Quentin.

1814
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,440
Speaker 1: Nelson so let's make sure this isn't just a tackle, award.

1815
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: Not just a tackle. Award AND i, AGAIN i wonder

1816
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 2: if there's a way that maybe there can be a

1817
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: committee that can at least. Advise did they say is

1818
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 2: it AN ap award or it says it's an end

1819
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: of season? Award So i'd assume that that means that

1820
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 2: it's AN ap, award just LIKE Mvp rookie of The,

1821
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 2: year so on and so. Forth but it's going to

1822
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 2: be presented AT nfl. Honors like that's that's the way it.

1823
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 2: Sounds so it doesn't necessarily need to be. That it

1824
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 2: goes to like a subcommittee that votes on the, award

1825
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 2: just within the. Committee but maybe can we have Like

1826
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: Andrew whitworth and Like Dante scarnekia like just like advise the,

1827
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: voters like just like maybe like puts out some, pitches

1828
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 2: right and be, like this is why this guy deserves

1829
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 2: it or whatever the case.

1830
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: Makes what a lot of these awards Are and this

1831
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 1: is something SO i talked about this another show for

1832
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: The Patriots hall Of, fame, right if they ever want

1833
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: to move away from the full fan.

1834
01:23:58,200 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: Vote, yeah and with.

1835
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: This you would need to win eight a few years

1836
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: to institute this or maybe find a way to backdoor.

1837
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 5: It.

1838
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 1: In, sure there are some awards where either a portion

1839
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,919
Speaker 1: of the voting or all the voting is living former. Winners,

1840
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: yeah so maybe you take all THE ap linemen from

1841
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: the last ten, years right who want to be a

1842
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: part of, it that's who, votes and then over time

1843
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 1: that turns into just the previous winners vote, Right maybe

1844
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 1: that's the way you do.

1845
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: It, so IF i had to, GUESS i think there's

1846
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: two guys that are front runners right now for the

1847
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 2: award next. Year that was your original. Question Tristan WARF's

1848
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 2: definitely has a very good chance to win this. Award

1849
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 2: and then you, know those two GUYS i think right

1850
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 2: now are the two best tackles in football making a tackle? Award,

1851
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 2: yeah AND i am making an.

1852
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: ATTACK i don't know that there's any guards right now

1853
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: that are who's the best garden football? Right it's probably Still, tony,

1854
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 1: RIGHT i don't know To tuney Is so the ap

1855
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: guards last year Were Tony, Miners lindstrom And.

1856
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 2: Nelson, Yeah, Lins trim's really good, Streight, yeah but they're

1857
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 2: not on. THAT i don't know if they're on like

1858
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 2: A Zach martin. Level, YEAH i.

1859
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: Know as much AS i said that this probably isn't

1860
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 1: landon uh is, Land dickerson a, Center, yes he got

1861
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 1: guard guard vote. Apparently, yeah as much AS i said

1862
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: that this shouldn't be a tackle award this, year it's

1863
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 1: probably skewy SO i would say wharfs and uh and

1864
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: so we'll have the best, chance outside chance maybe Like Jordan,

1865
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: mylatta you, know just because The eagles offensive line is

1866
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: probably gonna dominate.

1867
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 2: Again SO I Landon dickerson might have played, guard didn't

1868
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 2: That jurgens play? Center that's? Right yeah About Creede, humphrey good,

1869
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 2: player good football.

1870
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: Player some of THIS i wonder if it's going to

1871
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: come down, to like you have to be on a good.

1872
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:41,759
Speaker 2: Line, yeah.

1873
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: Well SO i what they should do is have AN

1874
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: nfl version of The Joe Moore, award.

1875
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 2: Which i'd be all for.

1876
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 1: That so The Joe More award in college, football it's

1877
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: a collective. Award players individually can call Themselves Joe Morrow

1878
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 1: Joe Moore award, winners but it is awarded to the

1879
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 1: best offensive line collectively in the country every, year and

1880
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 1: it's basically A Big ten. Award it's Usually, michigan But

1881
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: elis who's won a COUPLE, Ls who's won a Couple

1882
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: washington won one. RECENTLY i think they should have AN

1883
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 1: Nfl Joe Moore award that goes to the best offensive.

1884
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 2: Line that would be cool. Too, okay So protector of

1885
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 2: The year next, year but probably. WHARFS i think one

1886
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 2: of those GUYS.

1887
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 1: I do hope we get a garter tackle, early to

1888
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: establish the garter center, early to establish the fact that

1889
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: it's not a.

1890
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 2: Tackle not next. Year it's gonna take a couple of.

1891
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: Years is there a chance That Will campbell ever wins.

1892
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: This fourth overall? Pick you wanted to be in the,

1893
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 1: mix be in the. Mix you wanted to be in

1894
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: there and win. It at two win a? Guard would

1895
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 1: they move? THEM i think he should be in the

1896
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: mix at.

1897
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: He's the best offensive line because.

1898
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 4: There will be still be people bemoaning that they took

1899
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 4: him fourth.

1900
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: Overall, yeah, yeah, okay well you can bemoan that on

1901
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 2: your own. Time all, right let's let's go back to

1902
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:00,600
Speaker 2: the phones. Here todd is in mass that says that

1903
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 2: it's Up.

1904
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 3: Todd, hey It's North.

1905
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 6: Carolina, todd AND i about The John Hannah ward for you,

1906
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 6: know the laughing guys that historically there's a guy that's better.

1907
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: Than Hannah John hannah got. It, yeah that's, bad not

1908
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 2: bad like.

1909
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 4: That that hammer's home the fact it's not just for.

1910
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 2: Tackles there you.

1911
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: Go, yeah, honestly sorry to cut. Off should should be

1912
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: the car next for you? Guys if we're named after a, Patriot,

1913
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 1: no offense To John.

1914
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 2: Hannah go, ahead go, Ahead.

1915
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 6: Todd all, Right So i'm looking at this season and

1916
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 6: listening to you, guys and you guys have more positive

1917
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 6: points than negative. Points it's like, this if this, happens

1918
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 6: this will be good compared to other. Years here's my,

1919
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 6: question And i'll give you my answer. Quick if they

1920
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 6: get over five, hundred it's because in my, case it's

1921
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 6: coaching lifted everybody. Up if they're under five, hundred it's

1922
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 6: because the old line just didn't make. It so that's

1923
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 6: my question for you, too BECAUSE i think you guys

1924
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 6: got some pretty good insights on, that even just In.

1925
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 2: Ota, yeah thanks for the. Call. TODD i would, SAY

1926
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,560
Speaker 2: i know it's over, simplistic, probably but maybe it's just

1927
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 2: recent recency creeping in because of. Yesterday like this whole

1928
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 2: thing starts and ends With Drake. May If Drake may

1929
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 2: takes the next step and has that year two leap

1930
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 2: and goes to being you, know it becomes A i

1931
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 2: don't want to put a number on, it but becomes

1932
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 2: a real franchise. Guy because let's face, IT i think

1933
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,919
Speaker 2: it's premature to say That Drake may is a franchise.

1934
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK i Think Drake may has franchise. POTENTIAL i think

1935
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 2: it's the all of the potential and talent in the

1936
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 2: world to get. There BUT i think it's a little

1937
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 2: premature to say that he is right. Now If Drake

1938
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 2: may takes that next step and he becomes a true

1939
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 2: franchise guy in year, two they will be in above

1940
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 2: five hundred. Team they'll probably make the. Playoffs, yeah if he,

1941
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 2: doesn't then they're probably going to fall below, expectation like

1942
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 2: that's just the nature of The.

1943
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:52,719
Speaker 1: BEAST a lot of this optimism banks on the idea

1944
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: That Drake may takes the year two, Leap like the

1945
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 1: double digit win projection in large part banks on the

1946
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: idea That Drake may is going to be better than

1947
01:28:58,120 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 1: he was last.

1948
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 2: Year AND i get. It you, know they word what

1949
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 2: ten and seven max rookie year with average quarterback, Play

1950
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 2: so there is a path with an easier, schedule there's

1951
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 2: a path that they could still be a nine or

1952
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 2: ten win, team you, know just based off of better

1953
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 2: coaching and not beating, themselves an average quarterback play and

1954
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 2: all that kind of. Stuff SO i understand that there's

1955
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 2: another side to that. Argument but in order to truly

1956
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,839
Speaker 2: hit their, ceiling and you, know friends of our program

1957
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 2: and friends of ours, have you, know maybe projected something

1958
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 2: like thirteen wins in some cases in order to hit

1959
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 2: those types of, ceilings like they they're going to need

1960
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 2: the quarterback to get them. There SO i hate to

1961
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 2: put it all on, him but it kind of a.

1962
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 4: Position it is all on.

1963
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 2: Him, yeah, absolutely all, Right nate is In. Chicago it's, Up. Nate,

1964
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: hey what's, up?

1965
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 8: Guys how you doing?

1966
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 2: Good what you Got i've got just two.

1967
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 8: Fun questions for. YOU i wouldn't take them too, seriously.

1968
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 9: But, UH i was, wondering what do you Think Christian

1969
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 9: gonzalez's floor and ceiling would be as a wide? Receiver

1970
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 9: and Then i've got a hut up For Kyle. Williams

1971
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 9: what DO i think About Calvin ridley as a Com Kyle.

1972
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 9: Williams i'll take it, off, guys appreciate.

1973
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 2: You, thanks thanks for the.

1974
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: Neighborhood, YEAH i don't Mind Calvin. Ridley, yeah that's that's

1975
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 1: not a bad. ONE a morphinesse.

1976
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 2: RECEIVER I Christian gonzales played, RECEIVER i believe in high.

1977
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 2: SCHOOL i think he. Was some teams recruited him as. Wide, yeah,

1978
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 2: no he definitely played has played receiver in his football.

1979
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 2: JOURNEY i THINK i don't think it was in, college

1980
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 2: BUT i believe it was high.

1981
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: School, no BUT i think some teams sometimes those guys

1982
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: will like some some teams will recruit you as a.

1983
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 1: Corner some teams will recruit you as a wide. Receiver

1984
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 1: he was a better, corner BUT i think some teams

1985
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: want him to play.

1986
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 2: Receiver, uh what's? THIS i don't. Know i've never seen

1987
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,719
Speaker 2: him play wide. Receiver SO i mean he's a great.

1988
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 2: Mover i'm. Sure i'm sure he could be a good.

1989
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: Recet like if he had to go out and play

1990
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 1: receiver tomorrow in AN nfl game with no, WORK i don't,

1991
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: know it would probably be so so if you if

1992
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 1: he actually worked at, it like he has all the

1993
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:57,640
Speaker 1: natural skills you.

1994
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 2: Need, Yeah i've seen him in practic. This i've seen

1995
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,600
Speaker 2: them make some one handed catches playing faux, receiver like

1996
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 2: when they do like the the drills where they put

1997
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 2: a guy against the guy and like you, know the

1998
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 2: corners play a little receiver to give him a. Look

1999
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,640
Speaker 2: I've i've seen him make some cool catches doing. That

2000
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 2: SO i bet you he could play receiver pretty. Well

2001
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 2: it would obviously take, time but it is A it

2002
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 2: is an interesting question given what's going on In jacksonville

2003
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 2: With Travis hunter right, now so it would be cool

2004
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 2: to see some of these guys try. It jordan is In.

2005
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 2: Ohio what's, Up? Jordan two?

2006
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 5: Questions number, one how would you guys feel about The

2007
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 5: pats either The Samuel. Jr and then, secondly how much

2008
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 5: do you guys make of it on the offensive line

2009
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 5: be in a City sell at right tackle And Cole

2010
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 5: strings plugged in at the starting left.

2011
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 8: Guard right?

2012
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 5: Now thanks all.

2013
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 2: Taking off their Thanks. Jordan, yeah we talked a little

2014
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 2: bit about the offensive line earlier in the. SHOW i

2015
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:56,679
Speaker 2: can understand Why Cole strange would sort of be giving

2016
01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 2: the getting the. Opportunities, well we'll see with. YOU i

2017
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 2: we brought up brought Up, city so a couple of times.

2018
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 2: Lighton robinson's not quite as, big but he's still more

2019
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 2: of like a, power physical downhill. Blocker if they're gonna

2020
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 2: do this type of stuff that they've done in the

2021
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 2: past with, McDaniels I i do feel like that fits

2022
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 2: more in their. TYPE i guess at left guard they

2023
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:19,719
Speaker 2: have been a little bit more athletic in the. Past

2024
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 2: with you, Know toney obviously being the biggest, one but

2025
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 2: it's it'll be interesting to see what they do there

2026
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 2: in terms of left. Guard but what was the other

2027
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 2: question the? END i don't.

2028
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:31,640
Speaker 4: Know he was good, TOO i don't. Remember could we

2029
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 4: like run that?

2030
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 2: BACK i don't remember. Either it's all, right maybe it'll

2031
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 2: come to. Me kevin is In. Massachusetts what's, Up? Kevin? Oh,

2032
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 2: Yeah Samuel. Jr, yeah let's Take kevin's call first and

2033
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 2: we'll get me back to. That what's, Up? Kevin that's.

2034
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 8: Going i'm a huge fan of the.

2035
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 7: Podcast my question, is, so with all these Moves patriots

2036
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 7: have made in the past, offseason what.

2037
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 8: Do you think they need to do become a now

2038
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:01,839
Speaker 8: a contender from the fringe?

2039
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 2: Playoffs thanks for the, call kevinixs uh and thanks for.

2040
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 2: LISTENING i would, say what what do they have to?

2041
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 1: Do so like is this like looking at like what

2042
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 1: do they have to be better? At or like what

2043
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 1: do they need to add to the? Roster they need

2044
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 1: to be better? At managing turnover both? Sides, yeah they

2045
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: turn the ball over less on, offense create more turnovers on. Defense,

2046
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 1: yeah and be better. Situationally those are the two big

2047
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 1: adjustments they have to make roster. Wise, uh you, know

2048
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: to look ahead to next, offseason you're gonna need to

2049
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: get another tackle in the. Pipeline they still probably need

2050
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:37,640
Speaker 1: an true number of.

2051
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:38,759
Speaker 2: APES i think.

2052
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 1: Number, one uh coverage dictating, receiver coverage dictating pass.

2053
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 2: Rushers. YEAH i think what you hope, is you, know

2054
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 2: just from The Big pictures, standpoint is that you do

2055
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 2: go nine to, eight ten and seven this Year Drake

2056
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 2: may takes that leap and you're maybe a wild card

2057
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 2: playoff team and you're you have some momentum and now

2058
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 2: way there a Dk metcalf wants to come. HERE i

2059
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 2: know he's you, know In pittsburgh, now But i'm, saying

2060
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:07,640
Speaker 2: like your more desirable destination.

2061
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 4: To kar mclaurin's not practicing In washington.

2062
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:13,799
Speaker 2: To come and add that cherry on top To Kyle

2063
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 2: williams and maybe to another year Of Stefan diggs and you,

2064
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 2: know and you keep on building that receiver room a little.

2065
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,719
Speaker 2: BIT i still feel like there's places on the roster

2066
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:27,839
Speaker 2: where their depth could still needs to be in. Reinforce

2067
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 2: LIKE i feel like right now they have a really

2068
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 2: solid like all twenty two right like they have like

2069
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 2: a really solid starting frontline and starting you, know.

2070
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah there's always you can always improve the.

2071
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 1: Depth if you look at how ridiculously deep The eagles, were,

2072
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 1: like that's and they don't need to be that right.

2073
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 1: Away that's what you're competing. With, yeah that's what a

2074
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 1: super and we saw that. Here how many times did

2075
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 1: they have guys here that played a rotational role at

2076
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,719
Speaker 1: best went elsewhere and we're, like really solid players. Elsewhere

2077
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 1: that's what a championship team. Is it's not just about twenty,

2078
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:00,719
Speaker 1: two it's about the fifty.

2079
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 2: Three SO i look at tackle left tackle in particularly no,

2080
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 2: disrespect but If Will campbell were to miss, time or

2081
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 2: If Will campbell has to kick inside or whatever like,

2082
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 2: that you're one step away From Vederian lowe being back

2083
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 2: on the field right like. That they could probably do,

2084
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 2: better you, know in the long run, There edge, RUSHER

2085
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 2: i still feel like you're maybe missing like a true

2086
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 2: factor edge, rusher like a guy that can be a

2087
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 2: three down, player you, know A Matthew judon type of

2088
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 2: player that can do.

2089
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 4: That their pass rush kind of reminds me their wide receiver.

2090
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 1: Room they've got a bunch of, solid complimentary, players but

2091
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 1: who's the guy that's taken all the Attention.

2092
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 2: Love gonzales And Carlton davis on the. Outside you, know

2093
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 2: with someone asked us about A Santa samuel junior Like nickel,

2094
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:48,759
Speaker 2: corner is that a spot that they could maybe elevate

2095
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 2: moving forward To Santa Samuel. JR i feel like it

2096
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 2: is mostly a slot Like nickel type. CORNER i don't

2097
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,600
Speaker 2: know if he's the, ANSWER i probably would say, no

2098
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: but just in, general like Is marcus owns a guy

2099
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 2: that can truly stay healthy playing seventy eighty percent of

2100
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 2: the snaps in that.

2101
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 4: Role and he's in a contract, here so is he even.

2102
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,759
Speaker 2: Right part of The? Yeah so that's that's another spot

2103
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 2: THAT i look at on the. Roster. NOW i still

2104
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 2: am interested to see their run defense up the middle

2105
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 2: of the. Field, defensively now they're gonna want to be more.

2106
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 2: Aggressive they're going to try to get up the field

2107
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 2: more and maybe that mitigates some of. It but right,

2108
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 2: now your best run stuffing defensive tackle is is Kiris? Tonga,

2109
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 2: again no, disrespect but is that good? Enough? Like is that?

2110
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 2: Right you, know when it's The jaguars In london last

2111
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 2: year when they ran the ball nineteen straight times right

2112
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 2: down your. Throat is this front going to be able

2113
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 2: to stop that from. HAPPENING i think they're in better

2114
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 2: shape to do. That but interior, wise and maybe this

2115
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 2: is just my brain going back To belichick and Like

2116
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 2: vince Will fork and you, know having like that true nose,

2117
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 2: tackle it does feel like a little they're a little

2118
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 2: soft in the middle still at. Times, Yeah so we'll

2119
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 2: see what happens in those. Spots those are the spots

2120
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 2: of the roster THAT i look at, now AND i

2121
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,680
Speaker 2: think the good thing about what they've done is it's

2122
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 2: kind of like what The lions, did where The lions

2123
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 2: had that draft and everybody poo pooed at the time

2124
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 2: that ended up being a pretty good. Draft and it

2125
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 2: Was Jamier, gibbs it Was Jack, campbell it Was Brian.

2126
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 2: Branch the reason why those that draft got pa pooed

2127
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 2: was because they were drafting non premium. Positions but WHAT

2128
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 2: i think what people missed at the Time sam La

2129
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:27,719
Speaker 2: porter was in, there was that they already had the premium,

2130
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 2: positions and they already Had Penny, sewol they already had a,

2131
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 2: Quarterback they already had receivers that they had drafted or

2132
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 2: high on you year before.

2133
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 1: They Drafted Aiden, hutchinson The Chanson williams the year before,

2134
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 1: That pinney Seool am And Ross Saint brown and On

2135
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 1: zeri cause they had pass rusher.

2136
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 2: There so if we assumed that all of the moves

2137
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 2: The patriots have been and this will not be the.

2138
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 2: Case but if we assume that all The patriots moves

2139
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 2: that they, made at least the high level ones work

2140
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 2: and work, out then you go into next year and

2141
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 2: you don't the issue with needing all those premium. Positions

2142
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 2: and it's hard to find premium talent at left, tackle,

2143
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 2: quarterback wide, receiver you, know those pass rusher like these

2144
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 2: are what everybody's looking. For so you're not going to

2145
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 2: find that in the third. Round it's just not going to.

2146
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,639
Speaker 2: Happen so now if you are looking at non premium

2147
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 2: positions and it's adding a run stuffing defensive, lineman and

2148
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 2: it's adding a slot, corner and it's adding you, know

2149
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 2: a linebacker play you know, depth and it's a third

2150
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 2: tackle that it's a little bit better than what you,

2151
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 2: have like those are easier to. Find maybe you can

2152
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 2: go about it that. Way all, RIGHT a couple of

2153
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 2: the emails here and THEN i want to get to

2154
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 2: Your Touch push take BECAUSE i know you're fired up

2155
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 2: about that. Earlier, actually give me Your Touch push take.

2156
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 2: Now So Touch push officially not. Banned it's sticking.

2157
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 1: Around they are two votes short of banning. It it

2158
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 1: was like twenty two to ten and he twenty. Four

2159
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 1: they did not get the. Votes The patriots reportedly voted

2160
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 1: against banning The Toush. Push they voted to keep.

2161
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 2: It they wanted to keep The touch pake in side,

2162
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 2: history which we Knew Mike rabel had said publicly he

2163
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 2: was in support of keeping The Touch, Push so it's

2164
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 2: not much of a.

2165
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,600
Speaker 1: Surprise exact or not his exact, quote but his the

2166
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 1: summation of his exact quote, was it's hard to Stop

2167
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 1: Lamar jackson when he.

2168
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 2: Scrambled should?

2169
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: He?

2170
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 2: Should he not be allowed to do that. Either so

2171
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 2: you were happy about?

2172
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 1: This, Yeah i'm very happy about it because it's a

2173
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 1: it's a Real the THING i hate about people complaining

2174
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 1: about the. Touchbush so all, right let me start. Here

2175
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 1: you don't like it because you can't stop. It there's

2176
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 1: a very easy, one not very, easy but there's a

2177
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 1: way to stop the Touch. Push don't let The eagles

2178
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 1: get to third and, one don't let him get down

2179
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 1: to the one yard.

2180
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 2: Line, like that's how you stop. IT i, know but that's,

2181
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 2: easier said, then but that's how you stop it if

2182
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 2: they're a good football. Team so.

2183
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 1: Like and then the other thing people say, is, well

2184
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 1: so some people say there's injury. Concerns all the data

2185
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 1: suggests that there's no injury. Problems is a lower injury

2186
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 1: rate than the average.

2187
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 2: Place so throw that one out the.

2188
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 1: Window and then there's the it's not a real football,

2189
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 1: play AND i as soon AS i tweed it, OUT

2190
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 1: i was glad that it's.

2191
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 2: Staying people, like, oh, great more.

2192
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 1: Rugby you might want to look up the history of

2193
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 1: the sport and where it has its.

2194
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 4: Roots this is Very Bill belichick because it has.

2195
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 2: Its roots in part and rugby back.

2196
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 1: As much a real football play as anything you're gonna

2197
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 1: yell at.

2198
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 2: Me the forward pass was not legal for.

2199
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 1: Years if we want to talk about what Is don,

2200
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: Corriel if we want to talk About Don coriole's big.

2201
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 2: Time forward pass, guy that's a weird.

2202
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 1: Take if we want to talk about what is actually

2203
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: at the core of the, sport what is actually in

2204
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 1: the history that that play you have to steal here

2205
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 1: and the seal here and we're into the.

2206
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 2: Alley that's That's Vince. LOMBARDY i Know i'm, saying this

2207
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 2: is what you. Want this is real. Football it.

2208
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 1: Is it is a Real it is as much the

2209
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 1: essence of the game as there. Is and that doesn't

2210
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 1: mean you can't throw the ball like there's room for

2211
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 1: all of.

2212
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 2: It but there's room for all of.

2213
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 1: It you don't want it to, happen don't let him

2214
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 1: get to and short situations or be smart like The

2215
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay buccaneers and signed four hundred sixty four Pounds

2216
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 1: Desmond watson.

2217
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:57,799
Speaker 4: As an undrafted free not going to make an. Impact

2218
01:40:57,920 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 4: that's how he will against touch.

2219
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 2: PUSH i mean played. It you even make a point

2220
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 2: of an impact against the, touchbull the two of.

2221
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 1: Them it's it's it's a real football. Play it's what

2222
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: the game is at its. Core it's not any more.

2223
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: Dangerous it's not a gimmick like some people like to

2224
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,719
Speaker 1: say it is It just if it was that, easy

2225
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:17,679
Speaker 1: every team would do. It why doesn't every team run

2226
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 1: the touch push year in and year out when they

2227
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 1: get in a? Third one lot of teams, do and

2228
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: the teams do The bills failed miserably. OUT i saw

2229
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 1: The patriots try to do it last. Year they couldn't do. It,

2230
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 1: yeah not everybody can do. It it's not like so

2231
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:32,799
Speaker 1: it's not some broken rule gimmick that you can. Exploit

2232
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 1: it's The eagles built a team that can capitalize on

2233
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:36,600
Speaker 1: this one thing and they do.

2234
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 4: It good for. Them it's the same WAY i.

2235
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:41,640
Speaker 1: Feel now this guy, tabled, thankfully but it's kind of

2236
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 1: the same WAY i felt about That lion's rule proposal

2237
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 1: to not see the playoffs by.

2238
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 2: Division all, right let's get to that in a. Second

2239
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i haven't played touch. Push, okay go, Ahead So

2240
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 2: i'm actually this might surprise. You, YEAH i was not

2241
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 2: for banning the touch. Push i'm glad it's stay for two. Reasons,

2242
01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 2: ONE i feel as though as A patriots, fan it

2243
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 2: would be hypocritical for me to now, say, no The

2244
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 2: eagles are too good at, this so we're Gonna i'm

2245
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 2: in favor of banning. It the pain we went through

2246
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 2: this with The, patriots With Bill pollion and The, colts

2247
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 2: and you, know legal Con man DOWN i legal, contact

2248
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 2: and the reasons how many rules were written out of

2249
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 2: the league because The patriots were exploiting the rule and

2250
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 2: everybody else caught up in arms if The patriots were exploiting, it.

2251
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 1: Even though if it was so easy to, exploit why

2252
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:32,760
Speaker 1: isn't everybody else doing? It you want to change the,

2253
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 1: rules change.

2254
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 2: THEM i can't sit here and good, Conscience alex and

2255
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:42,600
Speaker 2: say ban the toush. Push when this was everybody was

2256
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 2: up in arms and they would do this to The.

2257
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 2: Patriots So i'm glad for The. Eagles that.

2258
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 1: Good you want to beat the good, teams get, better

2259
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:52,680
Speaker 1: don't ask the league to stop them for.

2260
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 2: You the other reason WHY i was for keeping it

2261
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 2: is THAT i think that The eagles would have just

2262
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 2: been sneaking it just as well as they would be

2263
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 2: without the. Push like if you ban the, push push

2264
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 2: so they couldn't push from. Behind, YEAH i still think

2265
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 2: The eagles would be like ninety five percent successful on quarterback,

2266
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 2: sneats like they would be still be awesome at, it

2267
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 2: because the key to the play is that they have

2268
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 2: a ridiculously good offensive line and they have a quarterback

2269
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 2: that can squat like six hundred, pounds, right And Jalen

2270
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 2: hurts is just a, beast and he's great at burrowing

2271
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 2: just Like brady, was but he's also just strong and

2272
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 2: just a. Beast he can drive That piet, Right SO

2273
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 2: i don't think that teams are gonna be any more

2274
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,679
Speaker 2: successful at stopping The like maybe it would have shaved

2275
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 2: a percentage or two, off, right BUT i don't think

2276
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 2: it would have been that. Substantial so to, me this

2277
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:51,720
Speaker 2: was all just sour graves from all angles because all

2278
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 2: they were gonna do was not push him from, behind

2279
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:55,679
Speaker 2: and he was still going to get the first, down,

2280
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 2: Right and so then what are you gonna complain about

2281
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 2: banned the? Sneak like you, know.

2282
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:01,720
Speaker 1: There were people saying that that should be the next.

2283
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 1: Step it is because it's non exciting. Play it is

2284
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 1: a travesty that they almost allowed all of The eagles

2285
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 1: competitors to just write a play that they have found

2286
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 1: to be very successful out because they all can't stop.

2287
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 2: It like that's. Pathetic Like i'm.

2288
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 1: Sorry if there's any play that should be written, out

2289
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: it's That Miami dolphins cheap motion because it actually is. Illegal,

2290
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 1: yeah but that's another. Story but to your, point and

2291
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 1: IF i can transition out of the other, one like

2292
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:31,719
Speaker 1: you don't want the tush push to be, there get

2293
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 1: better stop, it get, creative figure out a way to stop,

2294
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 1: it get better.

2295
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 4: Players same thing with the divisional. One that Was Sour grape's.

2296
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: Too The lions or whoever it was that put it

2297
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 1: out there like they lost a potential home playoff game

2298
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: and be.

2299
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 4: Better win your Division like that's it's that.

2300
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 2: Simple so was The, vikings? Right so The lions are

2301
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:55,839
Speaker 2: the ones that proposed the. Rule, Yeah and The lions

2302
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 2: and The vikings both finished with great. RECORDS i can't

2303
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:01,759
Speaker 2: remember off the top of my. Head both won like thirteen.

2304
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 2: Games The lions won the, division, right The lions won

2305
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 2: that last game of the year and They so why

2306
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 2: did they propose it then if they got the home

2307
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i think that they just probably felt. BAD i don't,

2308
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:13,600
Speaker 2: Know it's definitely not. It so The lions won the

2309
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 2: division but FINISHED i, believe with the same record as The,

2310
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,760
Speaker 2: vikings but won the tiebreaker because of the head to

2311
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 2: head and they ended up winning the. Division so The

2312
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 2: vikings ended up being the highest wildcard, seed so they

2313
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 2: were the five, seed which means that it meant that

2314
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,559
Speaker 2: they had to go on the road on wild card

2315
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 2: weekend for the first round of the, playoffs even though

2316
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:36,599
Speaker 2: they had a better record than the team that they

2317
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 2: were playing against at. Home so that's the way why

2318
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 2: the rule was. Proposed you made a good point before

2319
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 2: we got on the air about, it BECAUSE i was

2320
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 2: thinking about this AND i was, like, well you still

2321
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 2: make the playoffs for winning the, division, right.

2322
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 1: So you can still Go so it was still gonna be,

2323
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,680
Speaker 1: yeah but like if a team got in at seven and,

2324
01:45:57,840 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 1: nine they would be the seventh seed instead of the

2325
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 1: right right eight and.

2326
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 2: Nine, yeah, yeah so that was WHAT i was gonna,

2327
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 2: Say like if you were eight and, nine like a

2328
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 2: couple of years, ago that, happened, right there was a

2329
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 2: division where the DIVISION i was every few.

2330
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 1: Years, yeah the most famous one is That seahawks team

2331
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,759
Speaker 1: that got, in and then that was The Marshawn Lynch pismo.

2332
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 2: Run, Right so you could still get in at eight

2333
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 2: and nine and win the division and you would get

2334
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 2: an automatic bid into the, playoffs but you would be

2335
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 2: the seventh seed in the. Playoffs you would not be

2336
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 2: the fourth seed in the. Playoffs THAT i could understand.

2337
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 2: Now you made. It brought up a good point, though

2338
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 2: those for the division end of season games like The

2339
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 2: vikings and The lions last, year those would be obsolete

2340
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:37,680
Speaker 2: because both teams were already making the.

2341
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 1: PLAYOFFS i don't understand. This everybody says it makes the

2342
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: games late in the season more. Important it. Doesn't it

2343
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: makes them less. Important if two teams are playing to

2344
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:47,599
Speaker 1: get a playoff, spot they're playing to get a playoff.

2345
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 1: Spot whereas like if you have two teams at the

2346
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:51,720
Speaker 1: top of the, division it's gonna be, like you, know in,

2347
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:53,799
Speaker 1: baseball for how many years The Red sox And yankees

2348
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 1: would both have ninety something wins and it was you,

2349
01:46:57,520 --> 01:46:59,680
Speaker 1: know they'd meet In september and they're both clearly in

2350
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 1: the play at this, point.

2351
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 2: You, know the.

2352
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 1: Division it didn't mean anything to win the, Division so

2353
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:07,600
Speaker 1: it should mean something if you want to get.

2354
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 2: A home playoff because home playoff games are.

2355
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 1: Valuable and some people will, say, well you, know it

2356
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 1: would still mean something down the. Line that's a lot

2357
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:18,640
Speaker 1: different if it's two teams In week, Sixteen, oh you,

2358
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 1: know this is potential home field advantage on the line

2359
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 1: in THE Nfc. Championship that's like a month and a

2360
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 1: half from.

2361
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 2: NOW i don't.

2362
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 1: Care and, yeah we used to do that with The

2363
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,840
Speaker 1: patriots And, colts but that was, different, right and.

2364
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 2: It still might.

2365
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 1: Be if they're that, good your wildcard team you can

2366
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 1: win on the. Road winning your division should. Matter it

2367
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,800
Speaker 1: creates those, rivalries it makes those games mean. More we

2368
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: were talking about The south the, air and it was

2369
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 1: a really good. Point if they were to pass something like,

2370
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 1: this they would need to completely change the way they

2371
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 1: do the, schedule because you don't you shouldn't be playing

2372
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 1: divisional teams twice a year. Anymore it would be you

2373
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:52,640
Speaker 1: go to eighteen, games you play the other teams of

2374
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 1: your conference once each all fifteen of, them and then

2375
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 1: you rotate playing THREE nfc teams every, year three opposite

2376
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 1: conference teams every, year so you play the teams in

2377
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 1: the opposite conference every five years instead of every four.

2378
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 1: Years if, ANYTHING i, think AND i had added, THIS

2379
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 1: i think they should up the stakes. Divisionally one of

2380
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 1: the best formatting things THE nfl is done in a

2381
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 1: long time is Making week eighteen games divisional. Games it

2382
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 1: wasn't always like. That when The patriots first one The

2383
01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 1: Super bowl in two thousand and, one they clinched THEIR

2384
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 1: i think it was a first round by. Right they

2385
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 1: clinched their first round by In week seventeen by beating

2386
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 1: The Carolina, Panthers yeah.

2387
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 2: Right which is.

2388
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 1: Weird SO i love the idea that it's divisional games week.

2389
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 1: EIGHTEEN i want to up the stakes in that you

2390
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:45,679
Speaker 1: play your first three divisional games Before halloween some Point September, october,

2391
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,640
Speaker 1: right and they're mixed in there. WHENEVER i wouldn't be

2392
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 1: opposed to opening the season with divisional, games but they're

2393
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 1: all in. There you play no divisional games until the

2394
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 1: end of the, year and then the last three weeks

2395
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 1: are all divisional. Games make it a sprint to the.

2396
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 1: FINISH i would love to see them do, that just

2397
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 1: to correct myself from.

2398
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 2: Earlier so they The lions were fifteen to two last

2399
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 2: year won THE Nfc, north The vikings were fourteen and,

2400
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 2: three and it came in. Second that last game decided

2401
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 2: THE Nfc, north that last regular season game That detroit.

2402
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:17,679
Speaker 2: Won The vikings at fourteen and three as the five

2403
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 2: seed then had to go on the road To Los

2404
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 2: angeles to play The, rams who were ten and seven

2405
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 2: as the four.

2406
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:24,720
Speaker 4: Seeds why did The lions propose this?

2407
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:28,360
Speaker 2: NOW i think that here was two years The Vikings

2408
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 2: lions game or The Vikings rams GAME i think ended

2409
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 2: up happening at a neutral site right because of the.

2410
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 2: Fires BUT i think that's.

2411
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 1: Besides the point was that the game that was An

2412
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 1: arizona ip, Right, yeah but that's not Here north. There

2413
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 1: the point being was that The vikings had a better

2414
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 1: regular season record than The, rams and The rams got

2415
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 1: the home. Game that was the, point, Right and so

2416
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 1: this rule proposal would have made it basically just like

2417
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 1: THE nba where they just seed you one through seven

2418
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 1: based on. Record but the only difference would been you

2419
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 1: know that you still would have made the playoffs if

2420
01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 1: you won the. Division So i'm okay with them keeping

2421
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 1: it this. Way like the division, RIVALRIES i think it.

2422
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,679
Speaker 1: Matters like you, said it makes no. Sense the schedule

2423
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:07,360
Speaker 1: would make no sense, whatsoever and all of a sudden

2424
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:09,640
Speaker 1: they took the division out of, it it would make

2425
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 1: no Sense, onceoever there's a there's a real case to

2426
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 1: be made for. It now there's obviously it matters still

2427
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 1: in baseball to a. Degree in hockey they have like

2428
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 1: the the hockey playoffs is just the? Subconference is that?

2429
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:26,679
Speaker 1: Stink the whole thing just. Stinks THE nba does one through,

2430
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 1: EIGHT i through ten.

2431
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:29,879
Speaker 2: In The Celtics.

2432
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 4: Division if you asked, me it's in The Celtics. DIVISION

2433
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:32,080
Speaker 4: i don't know IF i get it.

2434
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 2: Round, Yeah Knicks. Toronto there's one more? Team is it

2435
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 2: four teams are? FIVE i think it's.

2436
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 1: Four so because you said Nixt, TORONTO i thought The

2437
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: magic were about The magic sixers must Be.

2438
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:45,719
Speaker 4: YEAH i, think, yeah here we are talking to selves.

2439
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 1: Again, no there's a QUEST nba doesn't need, divisions like

2440
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 1: there's zero.

2441
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 2: PURPOSE i.

2442
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 1: THINK i think technically one team from each division has

2443
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: to get in the, playoffs but it like never comes

2444
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 1: up because only.

2445
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 2: Two but they used. To they used to matter in

2446
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 2: THE nba like it does in THE, nfl where the

2447
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 2: division winners and it made no. Sense it's like it

2448
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 2: just these teams that were winning these divisions were like

2449
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 2: ten wins worse than they teams below, them you, know

2450
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 2: and it just didn't make any. Sense so they did

2451
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:10,599
Speaker 2: away with. IT i think in, football because you play

2452
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 2: so few, games because the the rivalries have built up

2453
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,800
Speaker 2: in matter because it's also is like territorial to an,

2454
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 2: extent like you have the border war between The patriots

2455
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:21,839
Speaker 2: and The, jets and like you still.

2456
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 1: Have also it's one, game it's not a series in the, playoffs.

2457
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 2: Right and then you also you, know maybe not so

2458
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,640
Speaker 2: much in THE Anfc east BECAUSE i don't think that

2459
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 2: there is Quite maybe The patriots and The jets are

2460
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 2: at that, level but it doesn't feel like there's quite

2461
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 2: as much bad. Blood but in some other divisions there's

2462
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 2: some real bad blood between these, Teams like what's IT

2463
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 2: Thefc south is ridiculous they hate each. Other, YEAH i

2464
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 2: was it The saints in the in the bucks of

2465
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 2: The saints and The falcons because they.

2466
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 4: ALL afc AND Nfc.

2467
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 1: South those teams are in college football, world the college rivalry.

2468
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 1: FIELD i mean they, moved But Niners, raiders there's a

2469
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 1: lot of hatred. There, Yeah, Hawks niners has some, good

2470
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:02,679
Speaker 1: good bad blood.

2471
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 2: There so, yeah SO i think it's cool in. Football All,

2472
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 2: right a couple of emails here and then we'll wrap it.

2473
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:09,799
Speaker 2: Up so this is an email From ford In, savannah

2474
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 2: WHICH i think provos is an interesting, point ALTHOUGH i you,

2475
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:14,759
Speaker 2: know there's one THING i have to kind of correct.

2476
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:17,680
Speaker 2: Her so with the quarterbacks being played like they are,

2477
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 2: today it seems like a quicker you pay a franchise,

2478
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 2: quarterback the better the price ends up being in the long. Run,

2479
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:26,640
Speaker 2: Agree do you think If may proves this year that

2480
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:29,040
Speaker 2: there is any sense in giving him a long. Contract So,

2481
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 2: drake they can't Extend Drake may until after his third

2482
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 2: season in THE, Nfl so no matter, what they can't

2483
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:37,639
Speaker 2: extend him next. Offseason it's not until this offseason after

2484
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 2: that he's eligible for a contract. Extension BUT i do

2485
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 2: agree With ford's overall point that for the most, part

2486
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 2: that earlier that you do, it the better the deal.

2487
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 4: Is called that The Dak prescott.

2488
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 2: Theory so we only have a couple of, minutes and

2489
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 2: this is probably a bigger topic for, Us but Brock

2490
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 2: perty just signed a five, year two hundred and sixty

2491
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 2: five million dollars deal with The San francisco forty nine

2492
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 2: with one hundred and eighty one million dollars. Guaranteed you

2493
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:07,479
Speaker 2: know HOW i feel about Brock. Party and my feeling

2494
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 2: on Brock party is that he's probably over that line

2495
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 2: of demarcation of pay not, pay like you probably had

2496
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:16,879
Speaker 2: to pay. Him BUT i don't know If Kyle shanahan

2497
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:18,320
Speaker 2: and the forty nine ers are ever going to get

2498
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 2: over the hump with Brock party being their. Quarterback that's

2499
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 2: the place you don't want to be the place where

2500
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 2: the quarterback is too good to let him walk and

2501
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 2: you can't start over because you're not probably gonna find,

2502
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,599
Speaker 2: better but is not good enough to win you With Super.

2503
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 2: Bowl that's, purgatory like that's the worst place you can

2504
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 2: be with a. Quarterback but looking at Brock party's, deal

2505
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 2: AND i just said earlier That Drake may is not here.

2506
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 2: Yet he's not a franchise. Quarterback, Dad he's gonna go

2507
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 2: another ten to fifteen we're looking so it's not the

2508
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Six is the twenty twenty seven offseason That

2509
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 2: Drake may is eligible for an. Extension If Drake may

2510
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:52,760
Speaker 2: has a great twenty five and twenty six and then

2511
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:56,360
Speaker 2: becomes contract eligible twenty, seven you are looking at Giving

2512
01:53:56,479 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 2: Drake may fifty five to sixty million dollars.

2513
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 1: Probably a year, well because who else is gonna sign

2514
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 1: me in between now and Then.

2515
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 2: Burrow already signed pretty signed.

2516
01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 1: Side so that's the nineteen, draft that's the twenty, draft

2517
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 1: the twenty one, Draft Trevor laurron's already, Sign Trevor.

2518
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 4: Lawrence already, signed twenty two.

2519
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 1: Draft C J, Stroud, yeah C J stroud will be

2520
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 1: the one that that resets it. Again and then who

2521
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 1: was last? Year why CAN i think of, well last

2522
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:27,639
Speaker 1: N's may And Williams. Daniels oh that was the year. After,

2523
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 1: yeah you're, Right, no isn't that one you're in?

2524
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 2: Between?

2525
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:33,360
Speaker 1: Yah The Kenny. Pickett, oh, Yes Kenny. Pickett, okay that's

2526
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 1: what we're. Missing Soh, yeah you're gonna look at WHAT. C.

2527
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 1: J stroud gets and he's probably gonna use that as a.

2528
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 1: Baseline but you, KNOW i go back to Dak prescott

2529
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 1: was eligible for an extension and in the time The

2530
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 1: cowboys waited and, Haggled Lamar jackson, Signed Josh allen, Signed

2531
01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes redid his, Deal burrow, signed and there's a

2532
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 1: few more in.

2533
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 2: There they probably the.

2534
01:54:56,840 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 1: Expectation was initially when When prescott was first, eligible that

2535
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 1: he was is probably gonna be somewhere in forty million

2536
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 1: dollars a year about, that which is a, lot and

2537
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 1: at the TIME i think would have made him like

2538
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 1: a top five highest paid.

2539
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 2: Quarterback by, waiting the cow was he is a sixty

2540
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 2: million dollar.

2541
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 1: Aav, yeah because they waited and let all those other guys,

2542
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 1: sign because nobody wants to take less money than the guy.

2543
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:20,080
Speaker 2: Before and usually those, contracts you, know the guaranteed money

2544
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 2: with these quarterback contracts is.

2545
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 1: Everything, yeah usually those. Are they're like almost three or

2546
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 1: four year. Deal he's second and guaranteed Behind Josh. Allen

2547
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:31,320
Speaker 1: so you're looking at get signed after you're looking at The,

2548
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:34,040
Speaker 1: niners for, example once had extension kicks and like perty

2549
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 1: is A niner for the next like four years and

2550
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 1: there's really nothing they can do about.

2551
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 4: It so but the point, being like you're good at these.

2552
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 1: Contracts if the player is, good the contract's not bad

2553
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 1: because the cap explodes so. Much Right Patrick mahomes when

2554
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 1: he first signed that, deal we, were oh my, god,

2555
01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 1: Wow Patrick, mahomes.

2556
01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 2: He is the. Cheese i'm still scrolling his deals is

2557
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 2: an Extremely his deal is like A brady esque, bargain

2558
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 2: like he he he knew it at the time too

2559
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 2: when he signed, it like he's signed a team friendly,

2560
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 2: contract all Out brady.

2561
01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 1: Like even like some of these other guys that we

2562
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 1: thought signed massive deals at the time did not rank that.

2563
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 2: High because Even Josh allen's not that.

2564
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 1: Bad Josh Josh allen six right now in terms of

2565
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 1: Aav so like just sign the, guy get it over.

2566
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 2: With the cap will go. Up you'll be able to swallow.

2567
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 1: It unless you're unsure if he's worth sticking to long

2568
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 1: term and you want to let it play. Out but

2569
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 1: if you're convinced he's our franchise, quarterback haggling does you.

2570
01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: Nothing haggling hurts the, team it helps the. Player it's

2571
01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 1: in the player's best interest to drag that thing out

2572
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 1: as long as. Possible the CAP's gonna go, up you'll be.

2573
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 1: Fine other players are gonna be paid more than. Um

2574
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 1: get the deal done as soon as possible if you

2575
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 1: believe in The the tough part about it, is and

2576
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 1: then we'll wrap it. Up the tough part about it

2577
01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 1: is is if it's, again if it's, pretty if it's,

2578
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 1: even if It's Trevor, lawrence SO i think is, good

2579
01:56:57,040 --> 01:57:00,880
Speaker 1: but it hasn't really and that hasn't yielded wins all

2580
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 1: the time In. Jacksonville like those are the tough ones

2581
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:05,760
Speaker 1: because like you have to pay that guy because he's so.

2582
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 1: Talented you can see the talent With Trevor lawrence is

2583
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 1: clearly worth.

2584
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 2: Paying BUT i worry tiny teeny bit that that ends

2585
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 2: up Being Drake may's, fate where like it just doesn't

2586
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 2: ever really manifest. Itself but it's so obvious that he's

2587
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 2: not the problem and he's really good and like you

2588
01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 2: have to pay, him you. Know and that's when we

2589
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 2: start talking about. Windows And i'll wrap this up With

2590
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 2: floyd And Redford michigan's, email because you, KNOW i SAID

2591
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 2: i wasn't gonna Talk, celtics but we're an hour and

2592
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 2: fifty seven minutes in And floyd is making us Talk.

2593
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 2: Celtics he emailed in about. This this is the big

2594
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 2: thing with The celtics to me too as it relates

2595
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:46,960
Speaker 2: to The, Patriots, like there's, windows, right there's contending. Windows

2596
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 2: and a big reason why contending windows exist is because

2597
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 2: eventually two things. Happen your roster gets expensive and your

2598
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 2: roster ages. Out like those are the two big. Things

2599
01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 2: and if you're The, patriots you know you right now

2600
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 2: are at the very very. Beginning maybe even you're not

2601
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:04,800
Speaker 2: maybe even in the. Window yet you're probably like looking

2602
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 2: her on the. Doorstep, yeah you're probably like looking at the.

2603
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 2: Window but if you go into the window and you

2604
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:16,040
Speaker 2: don't maximize that. Window, now in twenty twenty, seven when

2605
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 2: you have to Extend Drake, may he becomes a sixty

2606
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 2: million dollars, quarterback and now it becomes a lot harder

2607
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:24,680
Speaker 2: to fill out the roster around. Him The celtics are

2608
01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 2: in a similar position now where they're in the middle

2609
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 2: of the.

2610
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 1: Window they put their chips all in the middle towards

2611
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 1: the end of the window and then they didn't. Win,

2612
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 1: Right so now that's the tough spot that you're. In,

2613
01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 1: well they won't WANT i, mean, Yeah i'm mean talking

2614
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:38,880
Speaker 1: about SO i remember somebody telling me, this And i've

2615
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 1: said this, before but like the ideal path when you

2616
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 1: draft a, quarterback when you, rebuild year zero is the

2617
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:46,960
Speaker 1: ear you.

2618
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:49,560
Speaker 4: Suck, yeah so year zero's the ear you get.

2619
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:50,360
Speaker 2: The picture tattoo.

2620
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 1: Back, well so essentially in this, scenario year zero is

2621
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, three right, right year, one there's one. Goal

2622
01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 1: there is one, goal and it is the quarterback you

2623
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 1: drafted AN Nfl, like is he a? Guy is he

2624
01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:05,760
Speaker 1: a guy you're going to invest in build? Around if,

2625
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 1: not you go back to your. Zero The patriots check that.

2626
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 1: Box they had to make a coaching, change which usually

2627
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 1: doesn't come with. That but, yeah that's year. One year,

2628
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 1: two you feel good about the. Quarterback now you start

2629
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 1: investing around. Them the goal for year two you should

2630
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 1: be in the mix for playoff. Spot maybe you just get,

2631
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:22,240
Speaker 1: in maybe you get eliminated the last.

2632
01:59:22,240 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 2: Week you should be.

2633
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 1: Competitive you should be beating some playoff. Teams you should

2634
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 1: be in the. Mix year, three you should be in the.

2635
01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 1: Playoffs the expectation should be to be in the, playoffs

2636
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:34,240
Speaker 1: and you should be contending for your. Division maybe you

2637
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 1: just miss. It you should be contending for your division

2638
01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 1: yours four and. Five because this goes along that rookie

2639
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 1: contract for the quarterback yours four and. Five that's your

2640
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 1: real true Super bowl. Window now obviously doesn't go that

2641
01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 1: way for every team that drafts a. Quarterback doesn't have

2642
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:49,840
Speaker 1: to be that linear the best laid, plans, right but

2643
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:53,800
Speaker 1: that's kind of the blueprint that you're looking at when

2644
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:56,080
Speaker 1: you draft a quarterback and you start to. Rebuild so

2645
01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:59,360
Speaker 1: because when you get to your five or when you

2646
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:01,760
Speaker 1: get to your, six now that new contract kicks in

2647
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 1: and it completely changes the way you build.

2648
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 2: It right, now you're expensive, now guys you know that

2649
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:09,120
Speaker 2: you sign in free agency or older moving on or,

2650
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:12,360
Speaker 2: now it just it resets the whole. Thing you get

2651
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 2: to year. Six The bills just ran into.

2652
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:15,760
Speaker 1: This this was The bills, list and people may hear

2653
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:17,080
Speaker 1: that and, say, well The patriots did it for twenty,

2654
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 1: years which is. Rare but part of the reason they

2655
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:20,040
Speaker 1: did that is going to sound weird to some. People

2656
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:23,040
Speaker 1: they drafted really well for a long. Time, yeah and

2657
02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 1: so once you get to year six and, beyond now

2658
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:27,080
Speaker 1: it's about you have to really start hitting on draft,

2659
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:28,800
Speaker 1: picks and not just first round picks but throughout the

2660
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 1: draft to beef up your roster around some of your

2661
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:33,080
Speaker 1: higher paid.

2662
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:36,400
Speaker 2: Players all, Right so that does it for today's. Show next,

2663
02:00:36,440 --> 02:00:39,640
Speaker 2: week the plan is that we're going to be out

2664
02:00:39,680 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 2: AT OTAs On, Wednesday so if it's the same schedule

2665
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:46,080
Speaker 2: as it was last, week and it will be during

2666
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:49,920
Speaker 2: the show THAT OTAs will be going, On So producer,

2667
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:52,440
Speaker 2: albs maybe we'll do two to four next week like

2668
02:00:52,520 --> 02:00:55,320
Speaker 2: we did WITH pu. Yesterday, well we'll figure that, out

2669
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:59,320
Speaker 2: BUT i think that's what we're we're gonna hope to

2670
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:02,680
Speaker 2: do is in the afternoon after the we're out AT,

2671
02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 2: OTAs we'll do a recap, show just like we did

2672
02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:08,600
Speaker 2: With Patriots unfiltered. Yesterday so it might change the. Time

2673
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:11,600
Speaker 2: we'll keep you guys updated on, that but until, then

2674
02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:14,800
Speaker 2: signing off For Alex, Barth I'm Evan. Lazar we'll see

2675
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:17,240
Speaker 2: you guys next week another. Ota it should be. Fun

2676
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:21,800
Speaker 2: we'll see you. Then, hey this Is. Evan thanks for

2677
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 2: tuning in to the. Show if you really want to help,

2678
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 2: us make sure to like us On Apple, Podcasts spotify

2679
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 2: or wherever you get your. Podcasts also make sure to

2680
02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 2: fall on The New England patriots YouTube channel see this

2681
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:35,040
Speaker 2: show and everything else we do here at The. Patriots

2682
02:01:35,200 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 2: thanks a, lot