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That's c R 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: A T E Club dot com. If it doesn't work, 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: you're just not using enough. You're listening to Software Radio, 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: Special Operations, military names and straight talk with the guys 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: in the community. Okay, it's that time a week again 15 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: and it's Big Field Campion from across the pond with 16 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: Software Radio. Okay, on target, on time, and we have 17 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: subjects that we're going to talk about this week. Let's 18 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: have a quick butchers at what they are that I'm 19 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: going to cover a little bit of E. D C. 20 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk about acid attacks. I'm gonna give 21 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: you another Dog this week, and we're going to talk 22 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: about well, I'm not going to tell you, you'll find 23 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: out a bit. I'm also going to be talking to 24 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: you this week a little bit more about the troubles 25 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: and Operation Banner and giving you a perspective and looking 26 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: at terrorist organization Okay, and I'll let you know which 27 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: one as we get there. So a fun packd week. 28 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: It's been a fun packed week in the UK as well. 29 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: The settled settling down period from the from the elections 30 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: is now well underway and the parties and all back 31 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: at work doing this out and the other. I think 32 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: Jeremy Corbyn is probably going to stand down from his position. 33 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: Looks likely that the latter appoint somebody else as the 34 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: opposition leader, so that will be interesting to see how 35 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: that develops. You've got Boris Johnson, now, well let's see 36 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: if you can deliver what he's promised. As from a 37 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: veterans point of view, there's still veterans being pulled over 38 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: the coals. There's still historic allegations going on, so we're 39 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: not out of the woods of any of this stuff yet. 40 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: It's going to be a very interesting time to see 41 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: that if, like they say, all the promises they made 42 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: during the election campaigns, Let's see if you can actually 43 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: start delivering. But in the meantime what they say the 44 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: other parties are all rejigging and reshaping. But we've now 45 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: got five years of Boris Johnson and his lot, so 46 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: let's see what they can do. And I hope they 47 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: can deliver what they promised. And their first, their first 48 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: real hurdle is the B word or Brexit, so let's 49 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: see if they can actually deliver Brexit. They're already rattling 50 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: on about having it all done by January and the 51 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: trade duels in place and all that sort of stuff. 52 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: So it's interesting times in the UK politically wise. Let's 53 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: see if in the next few weeks I can give 54 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: you some decent reports back as to say, well, yes 55 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: they've done this so far, Yes they've done that. They're 56 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: helping here, they're helping there. I had an interesting week 57 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: this week, although I can't talk about too much of 58 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: it yet because it's not in the public domain. I 59 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: went for a briefing at m O D. Whitehall, and 60 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: I've looked at the Army's new recruiting campaign, which will 61 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: be launching on the second of January next year, so 62 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: we've got that to look forward to because I've got 63 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: my opinions on it. And actually, I think it's going 64 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: to be a fairly decent time for the British military recruising. 65 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: I really do. I think they're getting a lot of 66 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: stuff right. They're not completely right, they're not completely out 67 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: of the woods yet, but they're getting there and things 68 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: are stepping up. After the last campaign, the Snowflake campaign, 69 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: which was actually one of the most successful recruiting campaigns 70 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: they've ever done and recorded, the next one follows suit 71 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: and like they say, I'm not allowed to talk about 72 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: it yet, but on the second of January you will 73 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: be getting my full report and you can find out 74 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: what I've been talking about with the Ministry of Defense, 75 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: because it's quite cool. It's certainly cool to be invited 76 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: back to a place like Whitehall, which is the heart 77 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: of the British military, and being involved in such a 78 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: such a high level discussion. We've recruiting being one of 79 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: the main focuses of any army in the world. Okay, 80 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: it's nice to have you little piece and going and 81 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: be able to say your thing in front of generals 82 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: and all sorts. Of that sort of stuff. So the 83 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: generals are listening to the big field now, which is 84 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: nice and our okay, and I've had a thoroughly good 85 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: catch up with two or three people aren't seen for 86 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: a very long time, so that's cool. We've got all 87 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: that coming in the post. Okay, right, where do we start? 88 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: This week's shown, But look at the d C and 89 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: I decided to cover d C A because we haven't 90 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: we're not out of the woods with this terrorism stuff yet, 91 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: as we are not out of the woods with gang culture, 92 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: so we still got these problems. They're still going on 93 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: in London, as I'm sure they're going on in other 94 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: parts of the world. I'm sure America isn't completely free 95 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: from free from violent crime and all that sort of stuff. 96 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, acid attacks are a consideration that we need 97 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: to need to think about, and our e DC needs 98 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: to needs to sort of echo the way we're thinking, 99 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: all right, because it's all right, you know, talking about 100 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: these things and being pre warned and pre armed and 101 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: right sort of stuff, But we've got to actually carry 102 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: the gear to follow this stuff through, because if we 103 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: can't follow this sort of stuff through, then you know, 104 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: we're wasting our time having an E d C. Okay, 105 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: acid attaction. We had a spit here in two thousand 106 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: and seventeen where acid attacks were huge. Okay, they were 107 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: happening all the time. There was all sorts of stuff 108 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: going on, they were frequent, they were happening all over London, 109 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: and it really was it really was a scourge the 110 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: nature of the attacks. Okay, we're talking we're talking powder, 111 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: we're talking air rifle. They're not air pistols, water pistols, 112 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: you know, filled with this honking stuff or just squeezy bottles, 113 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: so the delivery was accurate. Most of these attacks were 114 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: happening on people's faces, on their chests and on places 115 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: that we're going to massively affect them. So it was 116 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, if you get involved in an ascid attack, 117 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: the chances are, you know you're gonna get extremely injured, 118 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: extremely quickly, with extremely long term effects such as the 119 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: nature the attack, so you don't need to think about it, 120 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: you don't need to take it seriously. Okay, let's have 121 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: a look at what what the NHS said over here. 122 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: So the NHS were massively behind all the stuff that 123 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: went on, and I'm going to cover what they said. Then, 124 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: So in a guide produced by the NHS, they came 125 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: up with this thing called the three hours in the 126 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: event of an attack, an acid attack number one report 127 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: dial nine or nine on one as it is in 128 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: the States, Remove contaminated clothing, carefully, rinse immediately in running water. Okay, 129 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: so the free our report report, remove and rinse. All right, 130 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: So that was that was the sort of like parting line. 131 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: Let's just go into that in a little more detail. Okay, 132 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: so what do we actually do if we stumble across 133 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: somebody who's been involved in an ascid attack. Well, the 134 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: most important finger first aid for me is not to 135 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: become a casual for yourself. So you've got to actually 136 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: make sure that the attack is not still ongoing or 137 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: that the people that are you know, participating in this 138 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: attack have been taken down, whether you can do it 139 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: yourself or where somebody else has done it. But don't 140 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: go bowling in if they're still slinging this stuff about. 141 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: If you don't or not capable of that you're doing 142 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: anything about it, because you will become a casual with yourself. 143 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: But the most important thing once that's all done in 144 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: the first aid sense is to immediately wash the effective 145 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: part of the body with plenty of fresh or saline water. 146 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: It needs to be fresh or saline. It needs to 147 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: be clean. There is no if you if you do 148 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: this with dirty water. What what you do is although 149 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: there might be some sort of short term gain as 150 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: in getting the acid off, long term you could set 151 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: some horrendous affections in there because what this acid is 152 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: doing really is just lifting layers of skin off of 153 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: the victim. And now all that stuff that's protected by 154 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: the skin, you can deliver germs and disease straight in 155 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: there if you do the wrong thing. And so you know, 156 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: all right, you might have relieve the pain temporarily, but 157 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: in the long run, you know, somebody's infections can even 158 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: cause death. So you need to get this right. You 159 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: need to make sure that you know the water that 160 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: you use is clean. I can't stress that enough. You 161 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: need to keep flushing the effective burn area with plenty 162 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: of cool water, not too cold, if you can help it. 163 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: Although beggars can't be choosers until the patient's burning sensation 164 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: starts fading. This could take thirty to forty five minutes. 165 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: It's not going to be something that happens straight away. Oh, 166 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: there you go, it's all better. Now. Acid attacks are 167 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: particularly hideously painful. Okay, if you can, you've got to 168 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: remove all jewelry or clothing, which is how contact with ascid. Obviously, 169 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: If if your clothes are drenched in the acid or 170 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: still got acid dust all over it all the time 171 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: you're wriggling about, you're just delivering this acid to even 172 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: more places on the body. That is no good. You 173 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: don't want that to happen. That's gonna just that's just 174 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: gonna inflame, aggravate and make the whole thing worse. Okay, 175 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: And like they say, you're now actually spreading the stuff. 176 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: So you've got to get this stuff off. If you can, 177 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: have to rip clothes off, cut clothes off. Okay, that's 178 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: what you're gonna have to do. All right. We're going 179 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: to talk about what we put in the E d 180 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: C in a little bit. But like they say, bear 181 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: out in mind, you're gonna have to remove people's clothes 182 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: and jewelry, all right, and you're gonna have to get 183 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: it off their prompt as you can, because otherwise I 184 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: can say it's going to become a bigger problem. Don't 185 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: apply any kind of cream a oointment on the effective area, 186 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: as this may slow the treatment receded by doctors and 187 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: it might actually accelerate the burning. So if you put 188 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: the wrong cream onto a burn, you can actually start 189 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: cooking people properly, right or you know, they become slippery. 190 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: You can't get it off. It infuses with the acid 191 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: and you've now got you've now made it a stick. 192 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: He acid has opposed the one that can be washed off. 193 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: Don't start stick dream on people, all right. It ain't 194 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: gonna happen for you, all right, it ain't the work properly, Okay. 195 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: It would be an absolute travesty if you turned up 196 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: started to help somebody and then made it worse with 197 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: your own actions. So please, please please don't do that. 198 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: And if possible, once you manage to get all this 199 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: stuff off, okay, successfully use sterilized gauls to loosely about 200 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: the effective area. The gauls protects the skin from the air, 201 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: Debri's dirt and contamination. All right. Once a person has 202 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: been treated, they need to go straight at the hospital 203 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: if there isn't stuff on the scene immediately to take 204 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: things further than what you can do it, all right, 205 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: And like they say, once they've been to hospital, dressings 206 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: and that are gonna have to be changed frequently, and 207 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: these wounds are going to have to be treated with 208 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: extreme caution so as that they don't get infected any 209 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: further than what they were. Okay, so that's more or 210 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: less a treatment as far as we can go. Obviously, 211 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: in hospital, they can you know, we can start talking 212 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: skin graphs, we can start you know, putting people on 213 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: on on proper on proper stuff so that they can 214 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: bring this stuff down, you know, all that sort of stuff. 215 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: But on the street, on the E. D C level, Okay, 216 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: all you can really do is what I've discussed above. Okay, 217 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: So what can I carry? What can I carry to 218 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: aid me with this? Well, obviously we can carry gauls. 219 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't take a lot to have two or three 220 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: large pieces of gauze in your in your kit. In fact, 221 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: I've got two or three big patches which go up 222 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: against my ballistic plate. Okay, they're just flat. I don't 223 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: have to roll them up. I know where they are, okay, 224 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: and there's stuff they're okay, they're clean, they're sterile, and 225 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: they're in sterile dressing containers. Okay, you know you rip 226 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: them open and you get in there. So I've got 227 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: that water. You need water in your kit. You need 228 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: clean water in your kit. Now I'm not you know, 229 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: saying you've got to carry leaders and leaders of war, 230 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: but you need war in such a way that you 231 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: can deliver it out, do you know what I mean? 232 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: Whether it's in a squeezy bottle yourself with the water 233 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: or in just a normal water container. You need clean water. 234 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: And that's you know, immediately you can get that water 235 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: out and start working straight away with water that you 236 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: know is clean. You've had a result. You need scissors 237 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: or some sort of J knife with which you can 238 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: remove clothing straight away. Okay, you need to be as 239 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: soon as you started washing stuff off, you need to 240 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: removing that clothing. And you know, the old emergency silvers 241 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: are fairly decent. Or like I said, I used to 242 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: carry a J knife everywhere with me when I was 243 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: a bodyguard and I had had an incident where out 244 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: to cut the star's T shirt off because his fans 245 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: were grabbing him so much that they were actually restricting 246 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: the blood flat whose neck. Now, on the same score 247 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: of things, you know, if you need to get clothes 248 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: off quickly. A jay knife just goes pull straight up 249 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: the back of it, straight off, undoes it like a bib, 250 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: and you just pull your clothes off of them, right, 251 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: So a great bit of kit if you know you're 252 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: going to be in a location where this might happen. 253 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: Are you you're a nightclub dorman, or you are a 254 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: bodyguard and your client has a particular threat against them, 255 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: as such as an acid attack or something like that. 256 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: It ain't a bad idea to have some clear protective 257 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: glasses for yourself to help you not become a casualty, 258 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: all right. Or you can just slip them on. See 259 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: a large gang of you just coming over there, you go, 260 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: oh they go. You don't have to stand with them 261 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: on all night. But if the if the situation calls 262 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: for it, it's not bad to be able to think. 263 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it might go off. Here, band, 264 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: let's bunk some protective our way on straight away, just 265 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: in case somebody starts slinging around something stupid, all right, 266 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: because it can happen. And to assume to make an 267 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: house happen. Me and you we all know that, we 268 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: all know how it goes, all right, If you think 269 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. The chances are it probably 270 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: will and it will go extremely wrong. So there you go. 271 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: So that's what you can carry, all right, not to 272 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: say dressings, clean water, and scissors to get the clothes off. 273 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: And if you can, or you think that you're going 274 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: to be in a position whereby you might have to 275 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: do something like this, it's not a bad idea, okay 276 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: to have some former glasses with you, all right, So 277 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: there you go. 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And today let's talk dogs. You know 306 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: I like my dogs. As promised, I said, I'll bring 307 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: you a lot of dogs this year, and then we 308 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: talk about different breeds and their roles and what they 309 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: do and how they fare up and just general chitchat 310 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: about each breed that I decided to talk about. Now, 311 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: this week's dog is an extremely famous dog. In fact, 312 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: if one walked into any rhythm room in the world 313 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: right now and you were sat there, you know exactly 314 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: what it was. You would have to say to me, Hey, peel, 315 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: what kind of dog is that? You would know? All right? 316 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: And he guesses so far? When I tell you what, 317 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to keep you guessing for two more seconds. Right, 318 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: it's a white dog, all right, but it's a white 319 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: dog with black spots? Are we getting any closer? Here? 320 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: Is it on a typical tongue? Do you know what 321 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: this dog is? You must do by now? Well as 322 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: you don't know. It's been the feature of a very 323 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: very very well known film. And on this film there 324 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: was under and one of them. Are we any closer 325 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: to guessing what this week's dog is? Yeah? Of course 326 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: you know. The hundred and one Dalmatians by British offer 327 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: Dodie Smith and later on reproduced by Walt Disney is 328 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: featuring My Dog of the Week, which is the Dalmatian. 329 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: All right, here you go. You don't like a Dalmatian? 330 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: I absolutely love Dalmatians. What a lovely, lovely looking dog. 331 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: Will it's class as a medium sized dog. They don't 332 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: get massive, but they're not small. They're masterly. There's never 333 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: an ounce of fount on the Dalmatian as you see 334 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: a Dalmatian. And they're a fit, fit animal, all right. 335 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: They are, really are most Dalmatians I've ever come across 336 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: a bit extremely fit animals. Okay, they're a great dog 337 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: all right, well defined, muscular, excellent endurance and stamina. And 338 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: they stand from nine in the twenty three inches tall. 339 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: The males are usually slightly in the females. And like 340 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: I say, there ain't no fat on these dogs. Let's 341 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: have a look at the history of the dogdon all right, 342 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: the Dalmatian. Where does it come from? Well, the first 343 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: documented Dalmatians were absolutely years ago, years and years and 344 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: years ago. In fact, there's sixteen hundreds, all right, the 345 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: sixteen hundreds. They were first depicted in pieces of art. 346 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: These pieces of art came from Croatia. Okay, years and 347 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: year sixteen hundreds. In Croatia during the regency period. Then 348 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 1: the Dalmatian became a status symbol and he used to 349 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: trot alongside horse drawn carriages. They became a bit of it. 350 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: Like I say that you have you had a Dalmatian, 351 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: you have money, all right, so you'd have your horse 352 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: drawn carriage there. You'd be Lord Mark on the back 353 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: of your horse drawn carriage, and you'd have your Dalmatian 354 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: running down the site, or maybe you'd have a couple 355 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 1: of Dalmatians running down each side, all right, and they 356 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: would act as escort to the to the carriage, all right, 357 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: so much so that they were actually known as they 358 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: actually got sort of like nicknamed coach dogs. All and 359 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: if you had though in those times, you were somebody, 360 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: all right, and they were coach dogs, and they would 361 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: follow a coach up and down. And I'm telling you're 362 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: white because these dogs are extremely loyal, all right. They 363 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: make great guard dogs, all right, because they say they fit. 364 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: They're athletic, their medium side dogs, and they're not small, 365 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: so they can get amongsture if they have to, all right. 366 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: They are a very very loyal breed, all right. And 367 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: they are actually known to have been used as war 368 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: dogs in Croatia where they used to they used to 369 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: help guard the troops and guard areas, and you know, 370 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: they would wander about and they would become your sort 371 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: of like first line defense. A very well disciplined dog, 372 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: and not they say, with its sense of loyally, it 373 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 1: will stay by your side. Later on, then they became 374 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: known in the in the firefighting days all right, and 375 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: especially in the US. Dalmatians used to accompany fire carts 376 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: in the days when they were still drawn by horse 377 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: and cart, right, and Dalmatians would go everywhere and they 378 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: but they were used not to put the fires out, 379 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: but when the when the horse and cart used to 380 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: get to the location and the firefighters would get off 381 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: and do their thing and bravely go into these buildings 382 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: and start putting out fires and all that sort of stuff, 383 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: all the good stuff that firefighters do and still do 384 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: to this day. The dog would stay with the car, okay, 385 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: and guard the car because as we've alluded to before, 386 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: these dogs would extremely extremely loyal, and you wouldn't get 387 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: near it. You wouldn't getting near the near the fire 388 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: car to turn the water off with that dog there, 389 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: I've gotta tell you. So they've got a history of 390 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 1: guarding and looking after things. They're also well known as 391 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: a as a hunting dog, okay, a trail hound. They 392 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: can retrieve or you can use them. You can use 393 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: them in packs. You can actually use these dogs in 394 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: packs and they'll go after wild boar, they'll go after stacks, 395 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: all right. Their intelligence has also led them into a 396 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: few circuses now and again, all right, and they have 397 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: been used to circus dogs. So they're very very triantable 398 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: as a dog that you know, they are an extremely 399 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: intelligent breed. You can do a lot of stuff with them, 400 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, and like they say, this is this is 401 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: this is why they have become so popular. And even 402 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: at this day, you know a lot of firefighters haven't 403 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 1: forgotten the history of these dogs and to keep them 404 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: as pets because they are such a decent dog. All right. 405 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: There is, however, a couple of ailments with it. The 406 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: one is one in particular. All right, all dogs have 407 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: dog to yips, you know that if you're just about 408 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: every dog I'll discussed about his hips will go eventually 409 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: if if that's the nature of the dog a day. 410 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: But this dog in particular has a only seventy of them, okay, 411 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: are known to have decent hearing. Okay, So the Dalmatians 412 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: basically are known as a dog that is likely to 413 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: go death or have some sort of hearing hearing impeachment 414 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: in his time. Alright. So if you if you get 415 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: yourself a Dalmatian and it won't come back before, it 416 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: won't listen to what you're saying. It's not because it's 417 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: a bad dog and untrainable. It's not because it's stupid. 418 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: It's not because it ain't clever. It's because probably is deaf. 419 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: Al Right, it won't be able to hear you. That's 420 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: a bad thing for your dog. You don't want the 421 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: death dog. But they're still lovely doms whether they're death 422 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: or not. Right, Okay, So there is actually a Damatian 423 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: Heritage project, and the Dalmatian Heritage Project began in two 424 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: thousand and five. The goal of the project was to 425 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: preserve and improve the emation breed by breeding parent dogs 426 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: with the following traits right, normal urinary metabolism, okay, bilateral hearing. 427 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: They needed to be friendly and confident, and all puppies 428 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: in inheritent projects are descendants of Dr Robert Scables parent line. Today. 429 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: Dr Scables lines produces the only damations of the world 430 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: today that are free of metabolic defec that can lead 431 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: to urine problems. Alright, So it does show that you 432 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: can't breed, you can't. You know, they've actually you know, 433 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: set up projects, you know, like the Dalmatian Heritage Project, 434 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: which can actually look after the breed. I am going 435 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: to tell you though, the downside of that is a 436 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: dog that comes from that bloodline is probably going to 437 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: cost you a little bit more than your average dog. 438 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: But then you go, some things you can't put a 439 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: price on Kenyan if you can afford it. Especially, So 440 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: there you go, like I say, the Dalmatian, then a 441 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: superb dog. And I'd recommend to anybody like to say, 442 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: use a friendly child, friendly, loyal, all the traits that 443 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: you need and a dog and what a super who 444 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: don't like a Dawnmatian? Who doesn't know the Dalmatian? All right, 445 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: So that's this week's dog, this released dog, the Dalmatian. 446 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: What a great what a great breed, and what a 447 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: great dog. There you go. In fact, just before I 448 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: leave the breed completely, you could forget that, you know, 449 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: the dogs associated with Bob Wiser. And I think you've 450 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: actually got a beer company over there that has their 451 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: beer wagons drawn by Klysdale horses and they're always accompanied 452 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: by the Dalmatian. And there again those beer wagons were 453 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: accompanied by the Dalmatian because the owners of the beer 454 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: company recognized that the Dalmatian, if you left the wagon 455 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: unattended by the dealt with your load, would be well 456 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: looked after by a decent dog that would do something 457 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: about it if required. Ego, I just thought i'd throw 458 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: that in at the end. There my Dalmatians. What a 459 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: great dog. Okay. Finally this week, then, before we disappear, 460 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about I'm going to talk about 461 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: the troubles again. Like I said, we're going to do 462 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: a fair few pieces about the troubles. And if I'm 463 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: going to deliver all sides of this, all sire to 464 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: this story correctly, I've got to explain to you all 465 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: sides and all aspects and all angles of the troubles. Okay. 466 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: And although, like they say, a lot of people don't 467 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: understand it fully, which is why I'm trying to explain 468 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: it in such a format that you can. It's interesting 469 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: that some people will only remember the bits that they 470 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: want to remember, and not necessarily the whole story. So 471 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: as as much as there was the ira A and 472 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: all these Catholic terrorist organizations, the Protestants and organizations which 473 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: were classes as paramilitary class, as a legal class, as 474 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: terrorists themselves. So both sides of the community at their wrongings, 475 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: their patterns, their people. Although like they say, both sides 476 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: of the community are people have believed in these people 477 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: and and believe that they were doing the right thing. 478 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: As far as the British government were concerned, and certainly 479 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: as far as I was concerned as a serving soldier, 480 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: a terrorist was a terrorist. If you picked up a 481 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: gun to prove a point, you were a terrorist, okay. 482 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: Whereas people will have a freedom fire on this on 483 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: that the other if you try and improve your point 484 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: by violence, as far as I'm concerned, you with terrorists. 485 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: So I need to highlight both sides are the coin 486 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: on this one. So I'm going to talk this week 487 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: about a loyalist paramilitary the UVF. The UVF then the 488 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: Ulster Volunteer Force, was an Ulster loyalist paramilitary group dated 489 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: back the nineties sixties and its first leader was Dusty Spence. 490 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: Now he was a former British soldier. The group undertook 491 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: an armed campaign of almost thirty years, all right, so 492 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: they were they were there for almost the entirety of 493 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: the troubles. I think they first declared to see fire 494 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: in n but officially ended their campaign in two thousand 495 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: and seven. Some of its members are rumored to have 496 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: continued to engage in violence and criminal activities. The group 497 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: is classified as a terrorist organization by the United Kingdom 498 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: and the Republic to Ireland and your lot the United 499 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: States of America. So what were they home to achieve? Well, 500 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: their main role, or what they would have claimed was 501 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: their Their number one thing was to combat Irish Republicanism 502 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: and in particular the i r A. They believed that 503 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: they were sort of like where they would have said 504 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: that the British Army had the shortfalls and not been 505 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: able to go after them one after one. Because of 506 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: the nature of how terrorism works, a lot of these 507 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: would argue that they would go they would go straight 508 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: in for the kill. Okay, it was responsible. The organization 509 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: was actually responsible for more than five hundred desks, and 510 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: the vast majority of those victims were Irish Catholics. They 511 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: were allegedly often killed at random. They didn't just operate 512 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: north for the border as well. They were known to 513 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: operate down south in southern Ireland and in ninety seventy 514 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: one they conducted or allegedly conducted. I think it was 515 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: mcgook's bar bombing, which killed fifteen civilians the group. They 516 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: are also alleged to have carried out tax in the 517 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: Republic of Ireland from nineteen six nine onwards. The Bastes 518 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: was in was in Dublin and Monahan bombings which killed 519 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: thirty fourths of and intomaking it the deadliest the terrorist 520 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: attack of the conflict. Whereas the I r I used 521 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: to bug out warnings, the UVF never never adhered to 522 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: that and never gave warnings on on any of their attacks, 523 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: which was one of their sort of trademarks, if you like. 524 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: So where were they based and how did they operate? 525 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: There were They were based in Belfast, and they actually 526 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: had what they what they called brigade staff. They had 527 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: high ranking offices, a chief of staff, they had a 528 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: brigadier general. So they made themselves up in a real 529 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: military way. They understood the ways of the military rank 530 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: system and they sort of applied that to their own organization. 531 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: So they were, you know, they built themselves up. There 532 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 1: was a definite chain of command, so they were they 533 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: were in terms of organization, fairly well organized in terms 534 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: of ranks. It's never been complete clear how many people 535 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: they actually had in their organization. But their nickname was 536 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: the Black Necks, and that was derived from their uniform 537 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: with black polo neck jumper, black trousers, black leather jacket, 538 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: black forage cap, along with a UVF badge and belt. 539 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: The uniform was based on the original UVS introduced in 540 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: the early nine and seventies. Okay, so they were you know, 541 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: not only did they have this sort of like strategy 542 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: and structure as a military organization, they had a uniform 543 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: and even at cap, badgers and belts and stuff like 544 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: that that were all that were all in line with 545 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: what they were doing. So they had finance, They had 546 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: a fair amount of support and a lot of the 547 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: more staunch estates in Northern Ireland certainly, you know, if 548 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: you were to areas of Belfast, if you looked at 549 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: places like the Diamond in London, Dairy, you know, in 550 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: certain areas they would have a massive amount of support. 551 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: And with support comes finance, doesn't it. So they were 552 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: you know, they weren't completely outlawed by everybody, you know, 553 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: they were accepted on many of the larger estates. They 554 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: had both men and females amongst their amongst their ranks, 555 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: and I let's say probably predominantly they were. They were 556 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: they were Bellfast based, although like I've said, you know, 557 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: they had other other areas which had staunch, staunch following 558 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: as well. I've mentioned finance. They also ran black cabs 559 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: in their own areas. So as the ira A were 560 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: known for running the black cabs and making money out 561 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: of the black cabs in their areas, the UVF did 562 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: exactly the same in theirs, and so we're making money 563 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: that way as well. None of these organizations survive without 564 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: support and money, and they had both. They never on 565 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: the support side of stuff, really had much outside of 566 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: Northern Ireland though, and whereas you know, the ira had 567 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: all sorts of support coming in from nor Aid, the 568 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: Middle Eastern places like that. The only links that I've 569 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: ha seen to find for the UVF came from Liverpool, 570 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: Preston a little bit from Canada. Most of its support 571 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: came from within Northern Ireland itself, so they probably didn't 572 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: have the fun in without the funding, you don't get 573 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: the capacity there, so you don't you know, they didn't 574 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: have as many weapons, they didn't have as much access 575 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: to the explosives that were coming into the Republican organizations. 576 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: Because they didn't have the support outside of Northern Ireland, 577 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: they certainly weren't as publicized as much in the papers 578 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: and pressed as the Irish Republican Army. I've even spoken 579 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: to people you know recently who've gone who what the 580 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: Loyalers have paramilitaries as well, So they weren't, you know, 581 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: they weren't as well known globally as perhaps they were 582 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: withinside their own territories. They did, however, have a number 583 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: of affiliated groups and someone who's included the Red and Commandos, 584 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: an organization that was established in nineties seventies to the 585 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: Young Citizen Volunteers, the y c V, which was a 586 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: uth section of the UVS the Progressive Unionist Party or 587 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: the PUP. They also had links there and the Protestant 588 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: Action Force as well, So there was you know, there was, 589 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: there was. There was a fair amount of sort of 590 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: like linked linked organizations that were sall smaller organizations of 591 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: the organization and that sort of thing, you know, which 592 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: we saw a lot with the Irish Republican Army, who 593 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: had all sorts of different factions and factors going on 594 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: political wings and side arms and you know, all this 595 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: sort of stuff, all all this different sort of support. 596 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: So the UVF had this as well, just wasn't all 597 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: just hasn't been as well documented. I don't think the 598 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: official seats fine then was in two thousand and seven, 599 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: although the report there was an independent report into paramounts 600 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: we activity launched in you know, I think about two 601 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen, which said that the UVF still had 602 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: activities going on and there's some people that they're implicated 603 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: in drug dealing and that sort of stuff. Now in 604 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: North Belfast, that's what the police should have you believe, 605 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: if you looked at a number of independent sources would 606 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: say that you know that they are still alive and 607 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: kicking the UVF and they still have their hand in 608 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: sort of like criminal activity and and and drug dealing. 609 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: So there you go. I just thought it was doing 610 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: an opportunity this week to give you an insight into 611 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: the other side, or part of the other side of 612 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: the coin. It's a massive complicated thinger troubles and so 613 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, when we put all these shows together at 614 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: the end, hopefully you'll have had a look at every 615 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: side of the tale. You can have a broader brush 616 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: picture of what happened on Operation Banner for that thirty 617 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: year period of insecurity and troubles in Northern Ireland. Okay, 618 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: and it's you know, for me, it was quite a 619 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: big part of my life. It took up five years 620 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: of my time over there working in the capacity of 621 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: a soldier. 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