1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Hey, this is any and Samantha. I'm welcome to Steph. 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: I never told you production of I Heeart Radio. And 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: it is time for another happy hour, which means is 4 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: always a drink responsibly if you choose to do. So 5 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: what are you sipping on, Samantha? So I got this 6 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: and he witnessed this box of wine and numbin box 7 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: like it literally holds twelve different wines from Costco not 8 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: a sponsor. I really wish they would and I've talked 9 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: about them before, I know, but yeah, they have like 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: an advent calendar level of wines and all around the world. 11 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: So I have a few left. Um, I did pick 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: and choose. I didn't go by the list. Sorry y'all, um, 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: but I am drinking from that stash and all of 14 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: them have been lovely. But I'm drinking from that stash 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: A white saying grilla. I don't exactly know where it's 16 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: coming from because I forgot to refrigerate it since is white. 17 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: I added a couple of ice cubes because I'm not classy. 18 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I'm all for it. What about you? Um, Well, 19 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing my traditional gent't on it because again I 20 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: have not been in the store, so I don't have anything, 21 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: but I did add some basil because I went to 22 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: visit my mom this weekend because as we speak, as 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: we record this on September twenty, it is her birthday, yes, 24 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: and she has a very big, robust basil plant. So 25 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: I was like, can I just take take some of 26 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: this with me? Please? Thank you, because I too love 27 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: basil and it's funny. I've kind of teased this happy 28 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: hour already because we're going to be talking about some 29 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: recent horror movies, like quick reviews that I have of them, 30 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: because I've seen this trend in horror and I think 31 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a whole episode on it on like 32 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: Elevated Horror and Women, because it's just been something that's 33 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: kind of given me pause and I found really interesting. 34 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Some movies have handled it better than others, for sure, 35 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: but my mom it was very much. She'll she's gotten 36 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: into horror movies more lately, but she it's definitely something 37 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: that perplexes her about me. She does not get it. 38 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: She was someone who wouldn't let me have certain movies 39 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: in the house, so I'd have to hide them because 40 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: she's too afraid to have them. Around, So even though 41 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: it's her birthday, I don't think she'd be into any 42 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: of these movies on this list, but she's very kind 43 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: and listens to me talk about them. So yes, this 44 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be a two partner it has. It's gonna 45 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: be lightly spoilery, but definitely spoilery for um. The movies 46 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: we're going to be discussing are X, a little bit 47 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: about Pearl Men, she will embodies, bodies, bodies, um. So 48 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: if you don't want to be spoiled for any of that, 49 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: come check this out later. And yeah, I'm excited to 50 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: hear other people's thoughts and to re visit this on 51 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: a bigger scale later. And if there are any other 52 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: movies we should be discussing, because we aren't going into 53 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: I've already started my horror movie rotation, so we're always 54 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: excited to get those suggestions from you. But yeah, mostly 55 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about quick it on some of 56 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: the themes that stood out to me that as it 57 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: relates to a lot of what we talked about on 58 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: the show. So let's start with the movie X, which 59 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: I did make some I love this movie. I didn't lie. 60 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm always pretty honest about this movie. I think it's 61 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: just hard to it's hard to explain. Um. Essentially, it 62 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: takes place in the seventies and it's it's directed by 63 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: Thai West. It starts me at golf as the main role, UM, 64 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: two of the main roles actually, and it's it's watching 65 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: it you at first think it's a porn movie, but 66 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: halfway in it becomes a horror movie, um, which is 67 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: supposed to be like a call back to things like Psycho, 68 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: where there's a mcguffin in the plot changes in the middle. Yes, 69 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: I love this movie. It's very highly reviewed. Is this 70 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: elevated horror? Yes, I would call it. I would say 71 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: everything we're talking about is elevated horror in this one. 72 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: So some of the big themes in this, I would 73 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: say her age because mea goth plays the main character, Maxine, 74 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: who they're they've recently announced that not only do they 75 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: have the prequel Pearl, which just came out, they have 76 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: a sequel named Mazine that takes place in the eighties. Yes, 77 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: making sure I'm on there on one point with us, 78 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, But my pronunciation was good enough, 79 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: it was, But I just wanted to, you know, make 80 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: people are like speeding through this. They're not going to 81 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: get that. Oh you're right, you're right, I forget. People 82 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: like to listen on like double times Yeah, all good, 83 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: whatever works, you know. Um so yes me and Goth 84 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: plays Maxine but also plays Pearl, who is an elderly 85 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: woman um who lives at this barn and Maxine is 86 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: part of this film crew that's filming this porno on 87 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: their property without telling them that they were filming a porno. Um. 88 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: So age is definitely a commentary because Pearl and Maxine 89 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: there's a tension between them where Pearl uh is angry 90 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: at Maxine's beauty and that she's desired and she feels 91 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: like Pearl feels like she missed out on a bunch 92 00:05:54,480 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: of things um and ultimately and up calling Maxine some 93 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: rather terrible names and implying J's a horror um all 94 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: this stuff. And that's another theme I would say is uh. 95 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: Alongside the age aspect is sex being this pornographic thing 96 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: people will pay for when you're young, but then it's 97 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: an act of horror when you're older. Because there's a 98 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: scene where Pearl and her husband have sex and it's 99 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: painted very much purposefully as like a horrific thing that's happening, 100 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: as opposed to when like the young cast is having 101 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: sex at seeing it's like, oh, this is so romantic 102 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: and desirable, people pay it. They do have a lot 103 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: of conversation around um fear around sexuality, um morality around sexuality. Uh. 104 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of like religious overtones in the background. 105 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: There's ideas around modesty and women and wanting to be desired, 106 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: with girl feeling like no one desires or anymore, so 107 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: she doesn't have any worth. And one of the things 108 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: I found really funny when I saw this movie because 109 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: I went into this movie very rarely does this happen. 110 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: I went in not knowing anything about it. I remember 111 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: I was texting you that night. I was like, some man, 112 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: this old lady just killed some people. I was as, yep, 113 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: that's fair. But I immediately looked it up because I 114 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: was like, whoa, what what did I just watch? And 115 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: there were a lot of really really tongue in cheek, 116 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: funnier reviews from older women who were like, yes, older 117 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: women do in fact like to have sex sometimes and 118 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: sometimes I got I got a big kick out of it. 119 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: They were very tongue in cheek, but it was just 120 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: like I love it. So there's a lot to unpack there. 121 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: But again, this is a happy hour and these are 122 00:07:53,680 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: brief reviews. I did want to very quickly touch on Pearl. 123 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: I just saw it. Actually did a double feature of 124 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: X and Pearl at our local plaza theater here UM 125 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: and Pearl. I enjoyed quite a bit. It was very 126 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: disturbing and unsettling, um but also very very well reviewed. 127 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: And I've seen a lot of stuff from directors being like, oh, 128 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: this has disturbed me and I cannot sleep and all 129 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: of this stuff. But basically it's about how did Pearl, 130 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: the older woman in X, become Pearl and um mea 131 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: golf plays Pearl, And there's a lot of stuff around, 132 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: like feeling crushed by her mom in particular, feeling like 133 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: she's special, having these having the sexuality but feeling like 134 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: she can't express it. Um yeah, basically feeling trapped by 135 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: her family, feeling jealous of other people who are able 136 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: to quota escape like small town life, because she really 137 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: wants to be a star, which is something you see 138 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: in X. And one of the things that Pearl gets 139 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 1: so angry about with Maxine Um is that she's jealous 140 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: in her mind that Maxine gets to be a star 141 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: and she never got to be that, even though she 142 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: really really wanted it. UM, so I recommend it. It 143 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: was quite disturbing those put that out there. UM. And 144 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: then lastly in this one, uh, and then we'll get 145 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: we'll have our second part later. UM. I wanted to 146 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: talk about Men, which we did talk about briefly UM 147 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: a couple of episodes ago. So Men was written by 148 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: a man. UM. Almost all male characters are played by 149 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: the same man, and it's by Alex Garland, who also 150 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: did Annihilation, among other things. The plot of this what 151 00:09:54,600 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: is hard to explain, but essentially essentially, uh, the woman, 152 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: the main character, who was a woman. It was recently. 153 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: It was an abusive relationship and her husband ended up 154 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: taking his own life. And so she's getting away to 155 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: the countryside to like reset um and try to write 156 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: and I guess, you know, just try to heal. And 157 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: she keeps there just all these creepy things that keep happening, 158 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: and she keeps seeing this like same man and versions 159 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: of him all over. Like at one point he's just 160 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: like standing outside naked, and she's quite isolated in this space, 161 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: so use through flashbacks. You see like that she's been 162 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: kind of blamed. A lot of the men blame her, 163 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: and she's been blamed for what happened with her husband, 164 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: Um that it was all her faults, and there's a 165 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: lot of basically you see a trope of like every 166 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: very stereotypical type of man that we see a lot 167 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: in our entertainment. So the implication could I guess the 168 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: amen of the same. But there's like your religious man 169 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: who was all pious, but it turns out it was 170 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: just like desperate to have sex with her. There's like 171 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: your police officer that doesn't believe her, all of those 172 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: kinds of things. And then the ending takes a real turn, 173 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: I gotta say, and it becomes like a real body 174 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: horror to the point I left and I was like, 175 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: was I loosen? It's a real sudden, sharp turn it did? 176 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean? It had? As I said, I think when 177 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: we talked about this recently, there were parts of it 178 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: I really liked, in parts of it that really didn't 179 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: work for me. Um, I thought it was interesting, uh, 180 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: and some of the things that was trying to say, 181 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: but I don't know that it worked. It's I read 182 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: some of the articles and interviews with Alex Garland about 183 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: the inspiration behind this, and it's a specific type of god, um, 184 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: like all God that this male character was based on. 185 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: But it has a lot of a lot going on. 186 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: It's got a lot of like imagery of you know, 187 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: the apple falling from the tree, she eats the apple 188 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: like eve, A lot of stuff like that. Um. So 189 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm somebody who enjoys picking apart that kind of thing. 190 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: But if that's not your kind of thing, I don't 191 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: think this would be for you. So yeah, I'm gonna 192 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: say it didn't get great reviews, and most of the 193 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: reviews came out as it was obviously a man being 194 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: like I'm feminist here you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's 195 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: it certainly felt that way at some parts, Like I 196 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: said that, I was a lot of it. I was like, yeah, 197 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: I know this guy. Yeah, especially the like religious guy. Um. 198 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: But it did still feel kind of not quite there, 199 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: like it wasn't quite what it needed to be to work, 200 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: in my opinion, but I did. I'm glad I saw it. 201 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: I don't know that i'd see it again, but I'm 202 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: glad I saw it. And the acting was great, so well, 203 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: we're at there for now, and then a couple next 204 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: half hour with me, we'll get into part two of 205 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: these quick movie reviews. But in the meantime, cheers to you, 206 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: Samantha for letting me talk about this, yes uh, and 207 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: cheers to your listeners for coming along this journey. And again, 208 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: if you've got any recommendations, oh my gosh, please let 209 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: me know or any thoughts about these. 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