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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 1: straight Fire, Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. This is Straight

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Speaker 1: Fire for Wednesday, June twenty nine. We got a great

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Speaker 1: podcast for you today. They're all great, obviously, but today

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Speaker 1: extra special. My main man, Coatino Mobile stops by you

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Speaker 1: guys remember and played for the Houston Rockets with Stevie Franchise,

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Speaker 1: played for the Orlando Magic, many teams in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: played at Rhode Island. Was the eight ten Player of

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Speaker 1: the Year. Just a good dude. I've done some radio

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Speaker 1: and some TV with him. I've always liked the cut

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Speaker 1: of his jib and he keeps it real. Uh Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan Fans just be aware. He's a lebron guy, Okay,

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Speaker 1: and he also has Steph Crews top ten all time.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it. I think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: like a Contino Mobile. Solid guy. He's a great follow

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Speaker 1: on I g he's really bolstered his following in the

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Speaker 1: last year or two. I guess he's kind of pivot

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Speaker 1: a little bit to some motivational speaking. I like it.

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Speaker 1: I use a good follow But before we get to

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Speaker 1: Contino Mobile, I've got to just say, folks, I wish

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Speaker 1: somebody loved me the way the New York Knicks are

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Speaker 1: in love with Jalen Brunson. Because by all accounts, right now,

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Speaker 1: the Knicks are gonna offer Jalen Brunson four years mil

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Speaker 1: and the MAVs are gonna let him walk, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of Knicks fans are like, what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Why are we giving twenty five seven million dollars to

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Speaker 1: a point guard who's not a top ten point guard

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Speaker 1: in the league. And it's tough to find that kind

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Speaker 1: of love. I'll say, my kids used to love me

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Speaker 1: the way the Knicks love Jalen Brunson. But the kids

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Speaker 1: get older, and I'm kind of embarrassed to admit this,

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Speaker 1: but like, the love just isn't what it was like

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Speaker 1: three or four years ago. Once they hit like eleven,

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Speaker 1: it's a different kind of love. They still love you,

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Speaker 1: but it's not like that, oh, you know, running in

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Speaker 1: daughter at beach camp. We live in a beach town.

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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm rolling up with the windows down,

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Speaker 1: the music playing. I even let her be DJ if

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Speaker 1: like she's like embarrassed that her dad's playing music and

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Speaker 1: I wasn't blasting and it's not like volume fifteen or anything.

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Speaker 1: And I was just like, damn, it's cold blooded. Damn

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Speaker 1: that that hurts, like it's stung a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: you just you as a dad hashtag dad life. You

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Speaker 1: get to those days where it ends where they don't

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Speaker 1: run to hug you first thing in the morning. They're

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Speaker 1: looking for the device, they're looking for the remote, and

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Speaker 1: it just ends. It ends quickly. I think it's about

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Speaker 1: fourth or fifth grade, and you don't realize that until

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Speaker 1: guys know. I wish there was a way to know

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Speaker 1: quote that is very very on point the good old days,

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Speaker 1: like you reminisce about it with your buddies now, but

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Speaker 1: like six years of just awesomeness. Obviously it's stressful and tough. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get that, but it is awesome. It's great the

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Speaker 1: It's a good feeling, and you teaching them right from

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Speaker 1: But our kids are phasing out of that. Obviously, I

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Speaker 1: would love to have more kids. The wife, you don't

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Speaker 1: who knows my wife, she's just like, no, we're good

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Speaker 1: on too, you know. So we got a dog, and

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Speaker 1: it's great to have a dog. The dog is incredible.

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Speaker 1: It's different than I want to hug you or like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's weird. This is not a rant.

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Speaker 1: This is just kind of a random thing I noticed

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Speaker 1: trading near Lens No Well and moving all this heaven

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Speaker 1: just it's just a weird moment for the Knicks. Now, listen,

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Speaker 1: Now the key here is they're not overpaying for Jalen Brunson. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson and r. J. Barrett are a good foundation.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what the next domino is. And

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Speaker 1: if you noticed, and I said this after the draft,

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Speaker 1: hell can contend. And let's not forget folks. Injuries happen

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Speaker 1: Mavericks going to the conference finals? Did a lot of

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Speaker 1: gonna totally rule out the Knicks making a big play

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Speaker 1: It's weird because all anybody, every reporters talking about Brunson.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's talk talking about another Domino, And that can't be it, right,

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Speaker 1: you can't just get Jalen Brunson. That can't be all

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Speaker 1: know if Julius Randall was all NBA. He was very

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Speaker 1: I totally undersold him. He avers twenty four and ten

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Speaker 1: want people to hate on the Brunson. So tomorrow I

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Speaker 1: think we'll do our full on NBA free agent preview

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Speaker 1: because things get wacky, wild kool aid style as you

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Speaker 1: let's just bring him in now. Let's not waste any

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Speaker 1: more time. Let's get to Katino mobile, former nb A

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Speaker 1: Jason likes to think he knows everything when it comes

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Speaker 1: to sports. I know what sports stance want, but for

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Speaker 1: everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. Let's

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Speaker 1: fire gout. You know and Love played in the NBA

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Speaker 1: for She's over a dozen seasons, eleven straight years, averaging

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Speaker 1: Coatino Mobile, former Houston Rocket, Orlando Magic, Sacramento King, he

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Speaker 1: was with the Clips. Now he's in the Big Three.

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Speaker 1: He's got his own podcast, Katino. Man, you're everywhere. How

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? Oh man, I'm just living a

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Speaker 1: dream man. How you feel? I'm great? I I was.

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Speaker 1: I was watching your insta Graham, which is really gotten

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Speaker 1: strong lately. You're doing some motivational speaking, You're working with

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Speaker 1: NBA draft picks Jade Nivey. Uh oh chi uh. You

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Speaker 1: know it sounds like you've got a pretty busy summer.

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Speaker 1: Huh yeah, man, you listen. This is one of the

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Speaker 1: just read well returning a favorite, that's all. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: like dad's point of view. Um, we're not at the

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Speaker 1: And some of the dads have expressed like, man's I

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Speaker 1: I don't think the discipline should be different because they're

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Speaker 1: So the same thing you do to the little boys

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Speaker 1: I don't know how difficult it is to have a

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Speaker 1: microphone shoved in your face all the time. But some

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Speaker 1: guys handle it pretty well, right stuff Korea. I think

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Speaker 1: handles are pretty well. Other guys just don't you know,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, everybody's wired a little bit differently. I

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Speaker 1: am curious, continue, do you believe that Kyrie is just

427
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Speaker 1: gonna show up this fall like a good soldier, go

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Speaker 1: to training camp, play as much as you can. And

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Speaker 1: do we think he's gonna do this just to get

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Speaker 1: a max steel from somebody, or do you think we're

431
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Speaker 1: gonna see more antics because he's not happy. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: let's say there's two different things. Right. First of all,

433
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Speaker 1: he is a max player. That's what he is, because

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Speaker 1: he's one of the best players ever to play the game. Now,

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Speaker 1: can we count on him to sign him to a

436
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Speaker 1: four or five year or after this? That's something he

437
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Speaker 1: can prove this year, right, But at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, I'm only going on what you have shown

439
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Speaker 1: me for the past I'm ten years you've been in

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Speaker 1: the league. So it's not really anyone else's fault than

441
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Speaker 1: it is his own. But it's not really his own

442
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Speaker 1: fault either, that his talent is so amazing that he's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, okay, cool, I'll play for one years. I

444
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Speaker 1: can I can play this one out and then I'll

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Speaker 1: be a free agent that I can go do what

446
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Speaker 1: I want and then someone else take the chance, and

447
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Speaker 1: then now just for the next four years, maybe he

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Speaker 1: can else. Maybe does amazing. I don't I don't know, right,

449
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Speaker 1: but I go on, Like you said, right, shame on you,

450
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Speaker 1: you know, shame on you. The second one of shame

451
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Speaker 1: on me. I gotta go on. What you've shown me, right,

452
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Speaker 1: you showed me the instability, you showed me inconsistency, That's

453
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Speaker 1: what you showed me. Right. So it's not personal, right,

454
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Speaker 1: it's like you're you're stealing from me. Let's to my house.

455
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Speaker 1: You steal from me, right, It's like next time, it's like,

456
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Speaker 1: I gotta watch you. It's like, no, I'm trust me.

457
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Speaker 1: I won't do it again. It's like, okay, do you

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Speaker 1: steal again? I was like, oh god, dang it, I'm

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Speaker 1: an idiot. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

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463
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Speaker 1: pivot to another guy on Brooklyn. Ben Simmons did not

464
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Speaker 1: play all season. Um, demanded out of Philly, got out,

465
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Speaker 1: got to Brooklyn, and then was supposed to play and

466
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Speaker 1: never did listen. I've defended Ben Simmons a long time.

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Speaker 1: I have gotten out of the defending Ben Simmons business. Contino. Um,

468
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Speaker 1: what are we supposed to make of him? Oh man,

469
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Speaker 1: that's a tough. And imagine you're Kevin Durant and this

470
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Speaker 1: is who you're locked in in with next year. Yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: that's the tough. You know those personalities seriously. As much

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Speaker 1: as I love Kyrie and keV, I think again, he's

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Speaker 1: amazing and you know Ben. Um, I just those personalities

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Speaker 1: are strong, but they're not as strong as they should

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Speaker 1: be considering the titles that they have in this world. Um.

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Speaker 1: So it seems like adversity. They pay attention to too

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Speaker 1: much opposed to just the task in the hand. And um,

478
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Speaker 1: like I say, in life, um, purpose should come before ego.

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Speaker 1: So no matter what you say about me, I know

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Speaker 1: my purpose right, So I don't have to. I tell

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Speaker 1: my kids everything doesn't need a response. Okay, it doesn't matter.

482
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Speaker 1: As soon as you walk outside this the world won't

483
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Speaker 1: like you. There's a lot of things that won't be right.

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Speaker 1: But you can't just to wait. The same way I

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Speaker 1: tell my kids, the same way you accept my yes

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Speaker 1: is you have to accept my nose and Ben and

487
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Speaker 1: Kyrie and Kevin the same way you love admirations and

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Speaker 1: then wards and this and that. It's the same way,

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Speaker 1: you have to like respect criticism because that's just what

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Speaker 1: people are. It doesn't define you. It's just what they think.

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Speaker 1: So it's not personal. It's just what they see, right,

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Speaker 1: And sometimes illusions are different, right, But if you're showing

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Speaker 1: them these things constantly and you're paying attention to things that,

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Speaker 1: truthfully for yourself and your own well being, it's not relevant.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason to even respond. So for being you know,

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Speaker 1: I think he got caught up a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: and then you know, coming into this, you know, listen,

498
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Speaker 1: coming into Brooklyn, it was it was a lot. You know,

499
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Speaker 1: they had they had to like, they had to win.

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Speaker 1: They really had to. Him coming in and not playing

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Speaker 1: a whole year. I don't know who does that. Michael

502
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Speaker 1: didn't even do that. It shows and a half, yeah,

503
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Speaker 1: but it shows it shows you with human right, because

504
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Speaker 1: then people are attacking you. Now, basketball's a rhythm sport, right,

505
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Speaker 1: and not just rhythm when it comes to physicality, but

506
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Speaker 1: rhythm mentally, and when you're when you're mentally not ready, right,

507
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Speaker 1: your rhythm is off and you look really terrible. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a weird situation in Brooklyn. Let me quickly go

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Speaker 1: to another team that has some uncertainty the Lakers with Lebron.

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Speaker 1: I will get to the Warriors eventually, but I just

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Speaker 1: gotta ask, can the Lakers contend again with Lebron and

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Speaker 1: a D I mean right now that I think I've

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Speaker 1: got four guys on the roster, maybe five. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I would like to see Bradley Beale with them

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Speaker 1: someone else. I would love to see Kyrie with them

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Speaker 1: because or the closer. But I love to see a

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Speaker 1: black Bradley Beal. You need some bona fide Lebron's older.

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Speaker 1: I love Lebron. He's my favorite all time. Go you

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Speaker 1: know really, yes, older nineteen years in twenty years in

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Speaker 1: that's a lot on one person. I think he needs more.

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Speaker 1: He's more of a facilitator right His true nature is

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Speaker 1: the Misi Johnson is kind of thing, and I think

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Speaker 1: with that you need that Bradley bo Kyrie Irving type

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Speaker 1: of player to like get you buckets so you can rest. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Now that's interesting. I'm sorry, I just got hung up

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Speaker 1: on the Michael Jordan's Lebron James thing. So you're one

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Speaker 1: of the rare players from the well from the nineties.

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Speaker 1: You your first season was eighty nine. I'm just checking.

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Speaker 1: I think that was no to You didn't you never

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Speaker 1: played against Jordan? You just you were in college, right

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Speaker 1: you did? Oh wait, he came back with the Wizards. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry the bulls, bulls Jordan you didn't play against

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Speaker 1: because most guys Contino from the eighties and nineties. And

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Speaker 1: I just had Eric Snow on the podcast and he

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Speaker 1: was like vociferous that, oh it's Jordan's no, not even close.

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Speaker 1: And here you are saying it's Lebron. Right, that's a

537
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Speaker 1: surprise too. I'm a little caught off guard here. And

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Speaker 1: and you face some of them, you face Kobe plenty Um,

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Speaker 1: Why why is it Lebron wise? Because it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: a golf Do we play golf or do we played

541
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Speaker 1: singles tennis? Which peopl you tell me the best coach

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Speaker 1: of all time? The best coach culture of all time?

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Speaker 1: Top three? I mean it's gotta be Riley, Phil Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Red r Back. If you want to go to the sixties, no,

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Speaker 1: no, no no, no, Joe, Phil Jackson, Rag Popovich and then

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Speaker 1: everybody else. Okay, okay, so Michael had Phil Jackson text winner. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if Scottie pipping Michael was amazing. Michael was my goal

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Speaker 1: throwing up. But as far as knowing the game and

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Speaker 1: playing in the game, is someone that can take four

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Speaker 1: guys from home depot or freaking you know, not having

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Speaker 1: the top coach of all time come on like a

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Speaker 1: six nine do everything everybody else can do, stone cold closer.

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Speaker 1: Just because you don't like the personality of a stone

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Speaker 1: cold kill doesn't mean the individual. He messed up against Klobe.

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Speaker 1: What's twenty? Sometimes he's six team and seven hmm, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know that number. Again, you know Kobe was was

557
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Speaker 1: Kobe older when they matched up? Or was it? No? No, no?

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Speaker 1: Lebron came in? Oh three, okay, Kobe. Kobe won three

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Speaker 1: champions eighteen. Kobe won three championships in a row in

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Speaker 1: two thousand one, two thousand, two thousand one, thre thousand two.

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Speaker 1: But Brown comes to two thousand three. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: love Kobe. I grew up with Kobe. I'm in Kobe's book.

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Speaker 1: I love him. It's my Listen. My emotions are detached

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Speaker 1: from what facts are Lebron James. If you're starting a team,

565
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Speaker 1: you start with Lebron James. That's just facts. That's facts

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Speaker 1: forty forty thousand, ten thousand, ten thousands points Rebounds assists,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't disagree with you. I don't disagree

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Speaker 1: at all. But the Jordan's people, will you know, they

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Speaker 1: basically they're dying on this hill of six. Listen, that's okay.

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Speaker 1: Some people like red heads, some people like Brunett, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm that's not for me to tell you that you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't like a redhead, right, like, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: something like I'm crazy about Latin something like, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I like Africa, I like Germany, I like teach his own.

575
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Speaker 1: But I'm going on what I know that what you

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Speaker 1: Lebron James come into the league lived up to every

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Speaker 1: single thing that was. Jordan didn't have that, Kobe didn't

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Speaker 1: have that, none of them had that. He lived up

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Speaker 1: and did me surpastic I mean, it's just it's it's

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Speaker 1: incredible the type of individual. He's magic Johnson two point

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Speaker 1: oh four point oh. He's that's what he is. If

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Speaker 1: magic at his speed and Jilli and all that that's

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Speaker 1: magic will be that's what Lebron is. Just you know,

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Speaker 1: he's just he's different. Okay, So we're we're does Curry?

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Speaker 1: How do you fit Curry into the pantheon of all

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Speaker 1: time great players? Like? Is he a top ten guy?

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00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: Is he top? Not even a question? Top ten? Katina

588
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: very spicy here in in late June. I like it. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm with I guess we're in locks. If this is

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Speaker 1: why I like doing radio with you. We haven't done

591
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Speaker 1: TV together in a couple of years, but uh we

592
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: seem to agree on a lot, like Curry, what he's

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Speaker 1: done for the league and at his size, and it's

594
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: been pretty incredible, right, super incredible. Like I mean, people

595
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: don't understand this. These guys are evolving. You evolve, right,

596
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: Like just because my grand I was gonna play me

597
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Speaker 1: the guy yesterday. Oh yeah, well, but it's not tough.

598
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Speaker 1: And this is not tough. I said, listen, you're on

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Speaker 1: the plane. I said, a hundred years ago, people had

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Speaker 1: to walk from one state to the next. Does that

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Speaker 1: mean they're tougher than you are? You out your mind?

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Speaker 1: That's how this works, right? Oh yeah, well I had

603
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Speaker 1: to walk five miles of school. Good for you. I

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Speaker 1: wrote a bike. Right then, the next guy is good

605
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Speaker 1: for you, I wrote a bus. Good for you. My

606
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Speaker 1: mom and dad took me. You know what I mean,

607
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Speaker 1: Like it doesn't come on, Like, let's not we're not

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Speaker 1: doing that. We're talking about skill sets, right, and we're

609
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Speaker 1: talking about termination Lebron James playing any decade and dominate

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Speaker 1: any decade doesn't matter, right, So I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know where people are going with this for it, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I find it odd that I like your argument about

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Speaker 1: can play in any decade. And that was one thing

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Speaker 1: the Eric Snow and I very much disagreed on. He said, Listen, man,

615
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Speaker 1: it was just a tougher league in the nineties. Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry couldn't get his shot off. He would be shadowed.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, do you watch Steff, He just decimated

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Speaker 1: the best defense in the league, said Eric Snow said

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Speaker 1: this a lot of guys believe it. Now, you gotta

620
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Speaker 1: guards coming to pick and then when it's a pick,

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Speaker 1: he's off of you and it balls in here. B j.

622
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Speaker 1: Armstrong says the same thing. He's a big Jordan defender,

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Speaker 1: and they just don't buy into the Steph Cury. So

624
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Speaker 1: for the longest time, Shock and Barkley Katino have bashed Curry.

625
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Speaker 1: Oh he's soft, he's a jump through. He couldn't play

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Speaker 1: in our tough league in the nineties. I see whatever

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Speaker 1: he wants. I mean said there was no shooters. I

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Speaker 1: means all Mark Fries Uh, Isaiah Thomas, um, um, Reggie Miller, um,

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Speaker 1: uh your name, your name, your name? Anybody? Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: Ricky Pierce, do your name? Any shooter, great shooters that

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Speaker 1: move without the ball and do everything Joe every stuff

632
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: has every single thing they have with a handle and

633
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Speaker 1: farther than anybody else. So what do what do people

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Speaker 1: think that? Oh, because it was rougher, It was rougher

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00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: inside the paint. Was here trying to guard someone and

636
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: that pois dribbling down the court full speed and going

637
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: around his back between his legs and setting the screen

638
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: and then his forty from the basket shooting in your face. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can hit him all day. You don't. But it

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Speaker 1: sat the w WF. They clean that up. You don't

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Speaker 1: get to do that. Um. It's interesting because you're right,

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00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: I've totally forgot Mark Price was like a very good player,

643
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: solid NBA player. Is blown everything away that that even Nashville,

644
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: who I liked a lot as a point guard, has done. Um,

645
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Speaker 1: And it's weird. You I'm gonna ask I. I don't

646
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: want this to get like to be a racial thing,

647
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: but do you think Curry being like, you know, a

648
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: suburban kid, his dad play in the league, he's light skin.

649
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: Do you think that stuffs is that feed into something?

650
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: Because I've had some of the guys have agreed with

651
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: me that there is something there too. He just appears

652
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Speaker 1: soft because of his look and you know the perception

653
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: of couriers, he's he's soft. He's not like a tough guy.

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00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: He couldn't hang with the physical stereotype, right, But we

655
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: get caught up. That's a small minded people. We get

656
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Speaker 1: caught up in stereotypes. Right if you see, if you

657
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Speaker 1: see a black guy and he's got muscles and he's tall,

658
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: you think he's rough and tough. Yeah, that's not necessarily true, right,

659
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: That's not how it is. You've got Conor McGregor to

660
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: to rip your head off. And he's a small little

661
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: dude right now, he's lifting in that because he's you know,

662
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: more so working on his physique and his body. He's

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Speaker 1: not really he's just some money, you know, he's the

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Speaker 1: cash cow right now. Right, So he's a little different.

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Speaker 1: But the little Conor McGregor. You know Maddy Batty, the

666
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Speaker 1: other guy, he's from Irishport. He they're crazy, they kill

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Speaker 1: you, you you know what I mean. So, like all these

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Speaker 1: stereotypes and people do, it's like to me, it's like

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Speaker 1: that's that's when you're imprisoned mentally. As soon as I

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Speaker 1: say Republican, you always think soon as I say Democrats,

671
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Speaker 1: you always think this. Soon as I say this, you

672
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Speaker 1: always think that. Right. So it's like, once we can

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Speaker 1: get outside of that right and say, okay, you know what,

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Speaker 1: he grew up here, father pro mother Division one volleyball.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, he grew up

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Speaker 1: in his church. But that doesn't mean he's soft. But

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Speaker 1: because he's light skinny, has pretty eyes, all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden he's no, that's not how that works. That's how

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Speaker 1: that works. Because that's the case. Then Andrew Wiggins, who's

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Speaker 1: darker skin from Canada. He was soft for a second.

681
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: His motor wasn't what it was. But he gets he

682
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Speaker 1: gets with Draymond and then Steph Curry and and then

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Speaker 1: then Clay and Eagle Dolla and he formed up a

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Speaker 1: new you know person. Yeah, it's interesting, you're right, Wiggins

685
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Speaker 1: as the number one option in Minnesota didn't look like

686
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Speaker 1: a superstar Wiggins as the number three or four option

687
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Speaker 1: in Golden State. I mean, goodness, gracious, everything, two way players,

688
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: the whole. Yeah, I am curious that the league seems

689
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: really loaded. Remember Coatino, we had to Super Team era

690
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Speaker 1: where teams were getting three stars together, and now it

691
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: seems like we're getting a little more balanced in the league.

692
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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of two team uh sorry, two star teams.

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Speaker 1: Uh Kauai and Paul George. Uh. You look around. You

694
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Speaker 1: know John Morant and you know maybe Jaren Jackson or

695
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Speaker 1: Desmond Band whoever you want. But there's it seems like, Katina,

696
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Speaker 1: we're going in the next season where you can make

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Speaker 1: the case that there's about ten teams that are very

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Speaker 1: very good and legitimately could win the title, going like Denver.

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Speaker 1: I think Dallas with Luca Donchs can win the title.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Hawks are there, but it

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Speaker 1: seems like there's like five in each conference, maybe six

702
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Speaker 1: and four or six in the West, four in the East.

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00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: It feels like the league is stacked, right. No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love the diversity of the league. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: A lot of different great players and really solid players

706
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Speaker 1: on different teams, and they're mentioning it up just like Miami,

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Speaker 1: you know with Bama and Jimmy and you know Tyler

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Speaker 1: Hero and you know, you know you got a solid

709
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Speaker 1: vet like cal An those guys. So I mean that's great.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you you have all these different teams.

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Speaker 1: I'm listening, Houston is going to be are you good?

712
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: They're young. They need a couple of vets to help

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Speaker 1: those young guys, and I think they're they'll be in

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Speaker 1: the mix. Is Eric Hordon gonna stay in Houston? Or

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Speaker 1: Now I would go? If I was error going, I

716
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Speaker 1: would go go to the Lakers. Hmm, I would go

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Speaker 1: to the Lakers. I mean that, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: they're gonna afford all these guys if they're keeping Westbrook,

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Speaker 1: a D and Lebron, Like, how the hell are they

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Speaker 1: gonn afford Eric Gordon? Sometimes you gotta pay to play,

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Speaker 1: pay that luxury tax. Lebrian ain't got that much more

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00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: time to luxury attacks. Let it go and and fight

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Speaker 1: for it. That's it, super simple. Should Portland's trade Damian

724
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Speaker 1: Lillard or should they try to be a playoff team

725
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: this year? Um, I think. I mean, it depends on

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Speaker 1: what Dame wants, right, Like he's very loyal, but sometimes

727
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: loyalty sticks you in the button, you know. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: if I was Dame, I'm going to a contender, right. Uh,

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00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: bigger market is l a. Um, there's other markets out there,

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Speaker 1: but the bigger markets all ages and new or market also. Um.

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Speaker 1: But the style of play, I would stay on the

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Speaker 1: West coast. Right, the West Coast is more up and running,

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Speaker 1: uh you know, um shooting threes more Uh that it

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Speaker 1: is on the East, even though the East does there

735
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: was uh shoots threes as well. But I would stay

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Speaker 1: on the West coast. It's interesting you said, depends what

737
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Speaker 1: Dame once and I don't know. I instantly thought back

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Speaker 1: to what Kobe wanted with the Lakers was paying me

739
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. And as great as Kobe was

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Speaker 1: when he got old and injured, the Lakers had I

741
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: think like the five worst year run that the franchise

742
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: has ever had because they paid him. And you know,

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00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: it feels like I don't know if Portland's is gonna

744
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: go in that direction, but by all accounts, they're trying

745
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: to keep Dame. I think there's a bad mistake for

746
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: Portland's well though, that's just told totally two different people. Right.

747
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant led the league in jersey cells in the world. Right,

748
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: he's the biggest, He's the biggest icon in China in Asia. Right,

749
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: So all from altipwenty years, I'm pretty sure in the

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Speaker 1: first like ten years they've made twenty times. He's much

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00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: on Colby than Kobe made on them. So paying him

752
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: his last five is just paying homage, right, That's that's

753
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: all that is, right. And then you got Lebron James

754
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: as soon as he came in, and then now that's

755
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: the second and then Steph Curry him and Steff Curry

756
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: neck and neck for the biggest jersey cells in the world.

757
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: So you you know the Lakers the franchise. As far

758
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: as merchandizing is between New York Knicks and the Lakers,

759
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: they've they've done pretty well. So that's okay. But as

760
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: far as day Miller in Portland, like I said before,

761
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: you don't want to waste all your years and somewhere

762
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: because it's not missing. It's not like one of those

763
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: faces where it's like, oh, I want to go there

764
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: because the weather is amazing. Right. My guy trying to

765
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: see Bill ups there and he's trying to rebuild that

766
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: that that program and the culture. You know, Terry did

767
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: well there, but it just can't get over that hump

768
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: because they kept bumping into Gold Stay Warriors. You gotta

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00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: think about it, right, They were bumping into them and

770
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: they didn't have enough. Uh. So do you stay there

771
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: or do you go somewhere where you know, I'm with

772
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: some other stars and try to make it run for it.

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00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: I I'm fine with that, you know, I'm fine going

774
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: somewhere else so I can solidify my career, right, uh

775
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: and see what I can do. Uh. On the other side,

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Speaker 1: can start to wrap up here, Contino. I'm just curious,

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00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: what was it like working with Jade and Ivy leading

782
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: up to the draft? The produced star goes to Detroit

783
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: like it looks like, well, hell, pair with Kate Cunningham.

784
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: Pretty formidable duo. UM. A lot of people comparing Ivy

785
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: to John Morantz and Russell Westbrook what did you see

786
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: up close? No, yeah, I see, I see Russell Westbrook,

787
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: I see Ja I see, but I see a very poised, coached,

788
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: very well coached kid that um can can actually shoot

789
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: the ball better than both of those guys coming in,

790
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: uh to his his rookie year, and um, he's a

791
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: he's I'm not saying these guys are not smart, because

792
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: they're very smart, both of them. But he you know,

793
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: he's raised by his mother, who is a culture herself

794
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: and it was a player herself, so you know, he's

795
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: been he's been watching basketball since he was three or

796
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: four years came out the wound basically, So I mean

797
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: he's more of a coach's son, right, So, um and

798
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: just with a lot of talents. So I see him,

799
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: uh you know, playing at that one and then putting

800
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: cunning him to me at the three more of a

801
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: point forward. Uh. So then you can put some shooters

802
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: around them, and I think they have a great team

803
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: in Detroit. And then what about a Jobby or I

804
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: hope I didn't say his name wrong. The Kansas kid.

805
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: You know, he's a little bit, he's a little older,

806
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: which is probably why he felt. But man, when you

807
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: look at three and D in this in this draft,

808
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: he's the most ready to contribute kind of right away.

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00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: Do you think he could make some noise in Cleveland?

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00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: They kind of, Oh, Coro hasn't really lived up to

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00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: what they thought he would be, and it feels like, maybe, oh,

812
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: I could have a shot at starting. I don't know

813
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: if he if he has a good camp. Yeah, Coral's

814
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: uh motor is a little inconsistent. Um, He's very talented,

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00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: but um, you know, I what I like about is smart, right,

816
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: He's I guess he's seasoned. Put it that way, Um,

817
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: and he could stress the FLOORID he could play defense.

818
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: So it needs a big size, right. So when you

819
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: have um, you know, the the mobile brothers uh and

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Speaker 1: um my guy guard Garland uh on on you know

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Speaker 1: on in the back court with you. You know, it's

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00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: it's hard to help off, right because Garland is so

823
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: amazing with the picking rolls and you have Evan when

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00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: he's rolling and he can spot up. Uh. I like

825
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: the team. Uh. They you know, they got a little

826
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: hurt with Ricky Rubio left because he has the leadership.

827
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: But I think that this past year, uh, with with

828
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: Garland uh kind of running that team, later on kind

829
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Speaker 1: of helped him enhance his his leadership role and then

830
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Speaker 1: Evan as well, because Evan's a coach's son. So when

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Speaker 1: you have that, UM, I like the chances of Cleveland

832
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: next year. Cleveland's on the on the uptick for sure.

833
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: And uh, final question, I was trying to look around

834
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Speaker 1: the league and think, like, I know what you were

835
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Speaker 1: as a player. Obviously you were ahead of the curve

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Speaker 1: on the three point shooting, but you had a post

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Speaker 1: up games as a shooting guard, crafty, lefty, just a

838
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Speaker 1: bucket getter. Who do you think in this NBA the

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Speaker 1: current NBA two Who do you think you know you

840
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: would be in this league? Um, it's kind of hard,

841
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: right because I was more three point pull ups, post ups,

842
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: dunking the ball. A lot of guys, a lot of

843
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: guards don't dunk as much and they don't post up

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Speaker 1: as much. UM. I don't know why. I think it

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Speaker 1: saves energy and doing those types of things. Yeah, you know,

846
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: listen the reason why Golden State and listen Boston. If

847
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: you think about it, they used all three levels, right,

848
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: They used the long ball, the mid range, and then

849
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: they went to the basket, all right, and then they

850
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: posted up as well, so you take that from them.

851
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: You know, Golden State mid range game, right. Uh, Clay's

852
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: three pull ups, steph three pull ups to the basket, right,

853
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: so Andrew Wiggins, Uh, you know threes, Uh, pull ups,

854
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: post ups, you have to mix it up. Um. I

855
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: think a lot of teams, you know, they get into

856
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: this whole mode, but they think go to say, only

857
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: shoots threes and layups, and that's not true. Right, They

858
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: work without the ball really well. But you know, I

859
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: think for me, um um, I really don't know. But

860
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Speaker 1: you know, as far as who plays like that, Andrew

861
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: Wiggins does a lot of it. Um Um. You know, um, James,

862
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: I wanted James Harden to do more post enough POWs.

863
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: You know, picking rolls from the top of the key

864
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: gives a defense more time to like help hardened, hardened.

865
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: You're right, Harden, it doesn't post up at all. But

866
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to add that, right coatino because he's

867
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: not blowing by people the way he did three or

868
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: four years ago. Exactly. You gotta start lower fifteen ft

869
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: from the basket and face up. Uh. You know, um,

870
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, like Joel Embi does, you know, sometimes shoot

871
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: the three but then it's too much energy, dripping ball

872
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: fifteen times. All you have to do is dribble it

873
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: once and maybe not or two times and just elevate

874
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: over someone. Use your body. I mean, James is a great,

875
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: a great post defender, right, so he has that leverage

876
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: the defensively. Oh yeah, do a shift. That's your offense

877
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: and guys won't be able to stop you because you're

878
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: taking away their legs. Yeah, huh, I like that idea.

879
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: I just you know, when you start talking about post up,

880
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: it's like centers barely post up anymore. You know. It's like, okay,

881
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: we'll get Nicola Yoki in the high post and we'll

882
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: try to create some stuff off that. But you don't

883
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: really just see teams dump it down inside and have

884
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: guys go one on one day in the paint. That's

885
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: just it doesn't really happen like it used to with

886
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: in Ali Jahuan Patrick, you and David Robinson era. You know, yeah,

887
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: because I listen, if you've got a team that wants

888
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: to shoot threes all the time, that's what I'm eliminating that.

889
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: So you're not shooting forty a game. Now, you're shooting

890
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: like fifteen maybe twenty and then now your rhythm is

891
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: gonna be off because I'm posting you up and I'm

892
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: slowing the game down. I'm making it more physical. That's

893
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: what That's what. That's what Sixes should have did to Miami.

894
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: Joel and Bee should have been in the post war right,

895
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: start in the post. Stay in the post. Some games

896
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: you can be out there in a way, but right now,

897
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: that's what. There's no one that can guard you in

898
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: the post. And you're gonna slow their transitions down because

899
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: now they're gonna try to help, and they're they're moving

900
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: forward defensively, trying to double, and now they gotta find

901
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: the opposite guy. And it's just like a chem or

902
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan swing swing three, swing, swing, penetration right like

903
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: those things what these guys are doing. It's weird that

904
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: these coaches don't tell them. You would you would think like, oh,

905
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris gonna be open for three on the second

906
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: past uh games are and then what the problem is.

907
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: The rotations are so crisp in this league. Now that

908
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: the guy that's gonna end up being open is Matiste

909
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: Hebel who other teams will just let shoot. And you

910
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: know if you have a non shooter out there, all

911
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it all falls apart. So then you

912
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: gotta play MAXI and I. It's it's the NBA is

913
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: So I just I kind of love it right now.

914
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are down mobile, but

915
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: where are you? You? Like you just love what's happening now,

916
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: I do. I just need needs to be a little

917
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: more tweaked, right. It needs to be a little more

918
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: mid range, It needs to be a little more post ups, right,

919
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: because that's what the game is, right. The game is

920
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: all facett It's not just two um and these these

921
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: might t you know, statistic guys just never played game

922
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: in their lives that really don't understand. You know, it's

923
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: it's literally about the game. Is you know, the rhythm

924
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: of the game. And if I can break the rhythm

925
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: of shooting a whole bunch of threes and making you,

926
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: you know, scramble to the guard me on the post

927
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: up defensive, and you know you get a little more tired,

928
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: those threes won't be going in as much. Yeah, I

929
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: wonder on the post up, like we didn't see Tatum

930
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: post up as much in the finals. Do you think

931
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: he was tired the way up top. Do you think

932
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: he was tired? Yeah, I mean going against Janice Kevin

933
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: Durant and then Jimmy Butler like that. That that's not

934
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: easy for three rounds to seven game series, right. No, Yeah,

935
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: because because he's starting way from thirty ft from the basket,

936
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: then he's trying to draw a foul. He's begging for

937
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: a foul. I'm getting I'm six nine, six ten, I'm

938
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: getting the ball fifteen feet in the basket, facing up,

939
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: and I'm punishing people. I'm fading on them. I'm one

940
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: dribble pull up, I'm one dribble spin. I'm making them

941
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: double team me so then my teammates can be open. Yeah.

942
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: It may seem boring for a minute some game because

943
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: what we win. Yeah, that's all the matters really, all right,

944
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: Coatino Mobley, Uh, I love talking to you. I feel

945
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: like I get smarter every time The Dad's point of

946
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Speaker 1: View podcast, doing the playing in the Big Three, legendary career,

947
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: Rhode Island Atlantic ten Player of the Year. I've just

948
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 1: always like watching and talking to you. Cotino could congrats

949
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: on all your success man, Thank you brother. I appreciates you.