Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by
Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spin off show
Speaker 1: Popping Off, where we are digging deep on this season
Speaker 1: of vander Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode
Speaker 1: of Popping Off with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and.
Speaker 2: And Emily Simpson. Thanks for joining us. I'm hooked on
Speaker 2: the Valley. I'm just going to say it. You know,
Speaker 2: I am too, and I don't. I don't you know,
Speaker 2: I don't watch reality TV, but I do like the Valley.
Speaker 2: I do. It's very I like that it's couples. I
Speaker 2: think that was smart, and I like that every couple
Speaker 2: is unique and different. It adds a lot of layers
Speaker 2: and dynamics to the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And on that note, we have to
Speaker 1: make an announcement. We threw in the towel on vander Pumphilla.
Speaker 1: We're not doing it enough. Tae arm Sean would say,
Speaker 1: we're not.
Speaker 2: We can't. We cannot recap it. No, we can.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I cannot even continue watching it even
Speaker 1: I have my boundaries when it comes to making money,
Speaker 1: and she doesn't have a lot of boundaries. So if
Speaker 1: we put one out there, that's it, and that's no
Speaker 1: shade to Lisa vander Pump. It's just not like the
Speaker 1: Valley and Vanner Pump rules.
Speaker 2: We're good. Okay.
Speaker 1: This episode starts with the girls taking a trip to Malibu.
Speaker 1: Can we talk a little bit about leading up to
Speaker 1: maled Boo, the tension between Brittany and Jack's and how
Speaker 1: he keeps bringing up her drinking habits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know when they showed those flashbacks where he
Speaker 2: consistently makes the rude comments to her. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't know how much is editing because I know, like
Speaker 2: the first couple of seasons with Shane, they did a
Speaker 2: really good job of only showing him being a dick,
Speaker 2: even though he can be a dick, but he also
Speaker 2: has another side. So I don't know if Jackson is
Speaker 2: just always on her case all the time or if
Speaker 2: they're just only showing him being on her case all
Speaker 2: the time, because I just I mean, knowing that they're
Speaker 2: separated now, you know, But.
Speaker 1: Also like yes, sober coach Jack's commenting on somebody else's
Speaker 1: substance intake, It's like, yeah, tell me more, really, I yeah.
Speaker 2: And I feel like he puts an emphasis on, like, well,
Speaker 2: she's a mom, but it's like, but you're a dad,
Speaker 2: so like a mom is supposed to act a certain way,
Speaker 2: but a dad doesn't have to. And it's fine for
Speaker 2: a dad to drink in the pool and eat Hamburgers
Speaker 2: with flies all over it, but it's not okay. But
Speaker 2: Brittany will take care of him. That's what he said.
Speaker 2: She'll take care of him.
Speaker 1: So but like they even the flashback to I guess
Speaker 1: the last time Brittany came home like hungover, and you
Speaker 1: can tell she's like walking outside. I think she's like
Speaker 1: about to get in the pool or something, and just
Speaker 1: his face is like one of pure.
Speaker 2: Repulse, like yeah, yeah, I know. It's like he's like disgusted.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I'm not going to pretend that I
Speaker 1: would assume Shane is probably the same way, Like if
Speaker 1: there's going to be a I mean, Shane doesn't drink
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: Edwin doesn't drink very often.
Speaker 1: So if I am overserved, there are times where I
Speaker 1: don't think Edwin's looking at me with like the most
Speaker 1: loving eyes unless he's about to get to have to
Speaker 1: have sex. Then he's excited and he's fine with me
Speaker 1: being overserved. But there are times where he's like, come on,
Speaker 1: like it's enough. Yeah, he's not also acting the same
Speaker 1: way I'm acting, right, But.
Speaker 2: Does he look at you with disgust? No, but he'll
Speaker 2: be like it's time to go. Yeah, Shane's like that too.
Speaker 2: I mean, Shane's like the voice of reason when I
Speaker 2: have too much tequila, you know, like time to go home,
Speaker 2: time for you to go to bed, time to take
Speaker 2: a nappy, time for shut up.
Speaker 1: But something else Edwin likes to do when I drink
Speaker 1: too much is the next day, he likes to recap
Speaker 1: all the things.
Speaker 2: Does he take video because Shane's took the last time
Speaker 2: I got really sick on tequila and I threw up,
Speaker 2: he took videos of it.
Speaker 1: No, thank god, he's not done.
Speaker 2: But now I had to have the car all over
Speaker 2: to the side of the road and I threw up
Speaker 2: on the side of the road, and he got out
Speaker 2: of the car and just videotape the entire thing.
Speaker 1: But did you put it in a bag and then
Speaker 1: bring it home and leave it in your driveway like
Speaker 1: Brettany did. No.
Speaker 2: I just puked in the street and it just you know,
Speaker 2: ran down into a gutter. Can I have.
Speaker 1: Shane's number so I can get the video. Absolutely not, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. Will just be like all I already wake
Speaker 1: up with anxiety whenever the next day is like, no matter.
Speaker 1: I'm not a thrower upper. I don't tend to be
Speaker 1: one that throws up. Unfortunately, it would probably help my
Speaker 1: case if I did. But he'll be like, I'll wake
Speaker 1: up and be like, I have anxiety. Everything was fine
Speaker 1: last night, right, And he'll be like, well you did
Speaker 1: say or maybe you hurt so and so was feelings
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, just say it was fine, because
Speaker 1: then I have to like go do recon and like
Speaker 1: check in with everybody, and everybody else is like you
Speaker 1: were fine, and I'm like, why did you make me worry?
Speaker 2: But he never throws your mother in my face. But
Speaker 2: I also not doing it with my children. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that's crossing a line. Well, you're a mother, like
Speaker 2: a mother has a certain way they're supposed to behave. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean mean moms, we do need a night out
Speaker 2: every once in a while.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Edwin did say you're a mother type
Speaker 1: comment to me, not about drinking. But Dove's about to
Speaker 1: join a new preschool and they have this and it's
Speaker 1: like for pre K. So she's leaving preschool going into
Speaker 1: pre k and they have their like tuition schedule, and
Speaker 1: then it says like, if you're willing to do this
Speaker 1: many hours of the baked sale or this money have
Speaker 1: to pay, right right. So Edwin on a group text
Speaker 1: with our accountant guy that like pays our stuff, is like, well,
Speaker 1: that's up to Teddy, And I was like, Haha, you're funny,
Speaker 1: Like you're just as capable to host the bake sale
Speaker 1: as I. So, no, that's really on YouTube, buddy, Like,
Speaker 1: don't like that's on Teddy me.
Speaker 2: Right, you mean like that's not only a mom job,
Speaker 2: Like that is a mom and dad job.
Speaker 1: We both have busy job. We both have multiple jobs.
Speaker 1: We both are always working and traveling. Like, no, don't
Speaker 1: just put that's on Teddy.
Speaker 2: No, that's on us. I just five hours. I don't.
Speaker 2: I just know. I just write the check. Also, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I can't think of anything worse than doing that many
Speaker 2: hours trying to sell candy like or whatever it may be.
Speaker 2: I was like, listen, I'm excited for her to go
Speaker 2: to the school, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it's cheaper just to pay it. Yeah, and other moms
Speaker 2: that are probably going to be more liked to sell it. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I know, haven't they heard about you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And plus the moms that put like their kids like
Speaker 1: girls Scout cookies for sale on their Instagram.
Speaker 2: They get eaten a live like you have all the
Speaker 2: money in the world.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you just pay for the blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Like I forgot who did it.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was like Hillary Duff or Jennaa Wann or
Speaker 1: like one of those really likable people did one of
Speaker 1: those things on their kids. And I just saw the
Speaker 1: comments of everyone like that's rich coming from you, and
Speaker 1: it's like, you want us to go door to door
Speaker 1: selling these candies.
Speaker 2: Okay, get back to the recap mine. This just happened today.
Speaker 2: It's fresh for me. Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Kristin thinks she may be pregnant. Michelle doesn't want Kristin
Speaker 1: to be pregnant because they don't Michelle's quote they don't
Speaker 1: need more of her around.
Speaker 2: That was so shady. I was like, but yeah, they
Speaker 2: need a lot more jesses, right. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: that was rude, Like you should never reproduce. Also, do
Speaker 2: you agree that Kristin is an impath? You know, I
Speaker 2: don't feel like I know kris And well enough to
Speaker 2: say if she's an impath or not. I mean, they
Speaker 2: did the whole flashback glage of her being I don't know,
Speaker 2: crazy or fighting or arguing or whatever. But I love
Speaker 2: everyone's reaction at the table to her saying she's an EmPATH.
Speaker 2: Clearly no one's sitting at that table agreed with her,
Speaker 2: but no one said anything. I was waiting for someone
Speaker 2: to call her out, but nobody said anything. No, everybody
Speaker 2: was just like Yeah. It was just like all the
Speaker 2: strange looks and eye rolling, and I was like, is
Speaker 2: anyone going to say anything? Okay?
Speaker 1: But I also think there's a difference between being an
Speaker 1: EmPATH and somebody that can read the energy of when
Speaker 1: somebody's upset at them. Like I think maybe what she
Speaker 1: means is she at that moment, probably particularly because I
Speaker 1: think half of them more upset with her. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: could feel that energy and it makes her nervous.
Speaker 2: So being nervous makes her an EmPATH.
Speaker 1: Well, knowing that people are mad.
Speaker 2: At you being in an awkward situation at a table
Speaker 2: made her an EmPATH. But I was there are some people.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's people that you film with that shouldn't
Speaker 2: feel awkward in a moment and don't know.
Speaker 1: To feel awkward, probably right, Like there are some people
Speaker 1: that are just sit right down like everything's great, and
Speaker 1: really it's not so great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could think of a few, Yeah, maybe one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was thinking the same. But then Nia. I really
Speaker 2: felt for Nia this episode. Yeah, absolutely, I mean you
Speaker 2: could tell that she's in a very difficult space. Did
Speaker 2: you ever have postpartum depression?
Speaker 1: I had postpartum anxiety, and which can led to like
Speaker 1: some depression, but like kind of even the way that
Speaker 1: Shina talks about the planning and that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: I would obsess about what my days would be when
Speaker 1: I had two little kids, and like how we were
Speaker 1: going to fill the days, and if I didn't know
Speaker 1: how I was going to fill the day, like I
Speaker 1: would says to the point where I'm like, you don't
Speaker 1: need to go to forty five things with your kids
Speaker 1: every day, like just be And I was really struggling
Speaker 1: just being, yeah, and it made other people around me
Speaker 1: crazy because I couldn't just be.
Speaker 2: And then but I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't think I was very emotional in front of
Speaker 1: other people, and I probably should have been, because then
Speaker 1: maybe I could have.
Speaker 2: Gotten help quicker for it. Yeah. Well, then I guess
Speaker 2: you would say it's good that she's talking about it
Speaker 2: and opening up. She's talking to her friends about it,
Speaker 2: she's talking to her husband about it, and he seems
Speaker 2: very empathetic.
Speaker 1: Like I.
Speaker 2: Enjoyed the interaction between the two of them, because even
Speaker 2: though Shane is a great husband, I wouldn't say that
Speaker 2: he would like wipe tears from my face, you know, right.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have that kind of softness to him. I
Speaker 2: feel like he would listen and then he'd be like, well,
Speaker 2: I hope that works out for you, and then you
Speaker 2: would walk away. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Danny realized real quick when he
Speaker 1: was like Danny thought he was having a being funny mon.
Speaker 1: He's like, what no dinner on the.
Speaker 2: Table for the husband? And then MEA's like and He's like, shit, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is not the time for jokes, right.
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you are feeling that way, it's not
Speaker 1: the time for jokes, especially from your husband.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but.
Speaker 1: I don't remember a time where we've really seen somebody
Speaker 1: on one of these shows kind of show it in
Speaker 1: such a raw way.
Speaker 2: And can we also talk about how pretty she looks
Speaker 2: while it's like, while she has, you know, this depression
Speaker 2: and she has this postpartum issue and she has three
Speaker 2: small children, and her condo looks ramped, and yet she's
Speaker 2: like glowing and beautiful. I know, and damn.
Speaker 1: Her, damn her, but also like the amount of pressure
Speaker 1: that she's probably putting on herself to be perfect and clearly,
Speaker 1: I mean, as great of a husband Danny is. Every
Speaker 1: single time Nia is away from Danny, he needs her back,
Speaker 1: and he needs her back asap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so let's talk about that. So when he
Speaker 2: was texting and what did the air conditioning have to
Speaker 2: do with it? Just because it was hot? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the guys are all at the barbecue.
Speaker 1: They find out Danny can't come because as Ac went out.
Speaker 2: But why would if you're acy is out, why wouldn't
Speaker 2: you want to leave? Why would you want to stay there? Well,
Speaker 2: I'm guessing this is just a complete guess. I have
Speaker 2: no idea.
Speaker 1: My guess is that he didn't have childcare at that
Speaker 1: point in time, and I would imagine it would be
Speaker 1: quite difficult for him to leave the house with three
Speaker 1: with the twins so I think are two months old
Speaker 1: and and a child under two to go hang out
Speaker 1: at Jackson's house.
Speaker 2: I get that. I guess maybe that would have been
Speaker 2: the excuse as opposed to my air conditioning doesn't work.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe he was waiting on like a repair
Speaker 2: man or something to fix the air conditioning. And the
Speaker 2: air conditioning continues not to work because then he reaches
Speaker 2: out to her while she's in Malibu having a girl's night,
Speaker 2: and then he asked her to come home. And did
Speaker 2: she leave in the middle of the night, Like how
Speaker 2: late was it? That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Want to know she left before they all appeared to
Speaker 1: get pretty hammered and do the.
Speaker 2: Dancing like dark out right, like they all have pajamas on.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I wonder if the plan was always for her to
Speaker 1: leave before bedtime, like before they went to sleep, and
Speaker 1: just let the other girls sleep there. But clearly, I mean,
Speaker 1: none of them really wanted to sleep there that bad.
Speaker 1: Like Kristen got up at six am. She had left
Speaker 1: so quickly she left her wallet, her phone, on all
Speaker 1: her belongings. I was like, is she on the run?
Speaker 2: Okay? So the guys are having a barbecue at Jack's
Speaker 2: and Britney's while Brittany is away. Jesse says that the
Speaker 2: couple's therapy is a disaster. I mean, I love his honesty, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't even try to sugarcoat it or anything,
Speaker 2: like we're working on things, like we're going to work
Speaker 2: through it, and he's like, it's a disaster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, it's an absolute disaster. Then he shares
Speaker 1: that Michelle applied for an apartment a year ago and
Speaker 1: told Jesse she was leaving.
Speaker 2: My question is, why why did she not leave? Do
Speaker 2: you think I mean to go through those steps of
Speaker 2: actually finding an apartment, building out the application, and then
Speaker 2: not leaving.
Speaker 1: I mean it could be there's this new show The
Speaker 1: Valley that oh.
Speaker 2: That makes sense. She's like, oh, okay, one shot, one
Speaker 2: last ditch effort, all right.
Speaker 1: But I can say, being a realtor or not a realtor,
Speaker 1: if I were to spend multiple days with another man
Speaker 1: that was straight at the Chateau more, a.
Speaker 2: Famous wealthy man, a.
Speaker 1: Famous wealthy man that they were like every time they
Speaker 1: said his name, which we've narrowed down from Twitter, that
Speaker 1: it's either Quinn Tarantino or Michael Bay. I wonder if
Speaker 1: they're gonna rely or it could be neither of those people.
Speaker 1: But I've seen Quentin Tarantino out a lot, but it's
Speaker 1: never at Chateau Marmont. I see him at the Peninsula.
Speaker 1: So that made me question, maybe it is Michael Bay
Speaker 1: because I don't really go to Chateau Marmont, so who knows.
Speaker 2: I feel like like now we have to stalk Chateau Marmont.
Speaker 1: Now we have so many places we need to be
Speaker 1: all the time, between Jackx's.
Speaker 2: And the Sandwich Place and Yeah Schwartz and Sandy's.
Speaker 1: I mean like the fact that we never want it's
Speaker 1: a full day and night outing. We need an adventure.
Speaker 1: We should do a road trip podcast. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: going to all the places. Yes live the problem those closed,
Speaker 1: Sandwich live from Jacks Hammered at his self named bar,
Speaker 1: Yes live from where they now serve brunch at Tom
Speaker 1: Tom Live from Chateau Marmont.
Speaker 2: We have no idea who we're looking for, but we
Speaker 2: are here.
Speaker 1: We are here by the looking for a rich director
Speaker 1: that's friends with an A list actor.
Speaker 2: We have a photo of Michelle we're showing everyone do
Speaker 2: you know this woman? Do you know this woman? Do
Speaker 2: you know this woman? Do you know this woman? Oh?
Speaker 1: It's just so good. But then we're back to Malibu.
Speaker 1: They're doing a good job of switching back and forth.
Speaker 1: I'm really wondering, is this actually even the same day.
Speaker 1: But if it's not, like I'm believing it.
Speaker 2: I'm buying it.
Speaker 1: But Michelle and Brittany are having a heart heart I'm like,
Speaker 1: this hard to heart, is not. It's hard to ask
Speaker 1: for marital advice in this group. I would say, maybe
Speaker 1: ask Nia.
Speaker 2: Me and I know, especially like you know, when Brittany's
Speaker 2: giving marital advice and you know they're not together anymore,
Speaker 2: it's hard to take it seriously. But I feel badly
Speaker 2: for her when she opens up about like not having
Speaker 2: sex for six weeks. But then I think it came
Speaker 2: out that it's way more than six weeks. I think
Speaker 2: that then they it was maybe like a year. I
Speaker 2: could get this wrong, but I feel like it made
Speaker 2: like later in the press it came out in this episode. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I think they were fudging the truth at touch
Speaker 2: with this. Just say six weeks that sounds good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean later we'll talk about their actual conversation
Speaker 1: when they get into sexy time. But Michelle says she
Speaker 1: started to feel the same way she did a year
Speaker 1: ago when she almost left Jesse, and she feels like
Speaker 1: it would be happier and healthier for her daughter to
Speaker 1: see them just co parenting, well together, verse together and unhappy.
Speaker 1: That I do agree with if you're absolutely fighting, But
Speaker 1: I not that I would feel any differently if I
Speaker 1: was married to Jesse. But I don't feel like the
Speaker 1: way she's spoken, she ever was in love with Jesse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't feel like there's a lot of
Speaker 2: emotion into it. And I feel like if you were
Speaker 2: actually in love with this person at one point and
Speaker 2: now you have lost that love and closeness, that you
Speaker 2: would be more upset by it. She doesn't seem to
Speaker 2: have a lot of emotions about it. It seems very
Speaker 2: pragmatic when she talks about it. But it kind of
Speaker 2: was just going to leave him a year ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like robotic, But it kind of feels like that
Speaker 1: with every conversation she's had, Like no wonder Jesse was
Speaker 1: turned on when she got mad and threw the chair
Speaker 1: down dinner because she showed an emotion.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, so yeah, maybe she is just
Speaker 2: very on a tone and robotic through life. So I
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, I don't really know either.
Speaker 1: But then we zip right back to the barbecue, this
Speaker 1: little pep talk between the two really functional marriages, and
Speaker 1: the guys are still talking about Jesse and Michelle's relationship.
Speaker 1: He says Michelle consistently hangs out with the director she
Speaker 1: met at chateaum Rmont. Jesse said, Jesse not being bothered
Speaker 1: by it was also.
Speaker 2: I find that weird Shane would be bothered by it.
Speaker 2: I mean even Jack's admits he would be bothered by it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I feel like being bothered by that is reasonable
Speaker 2: if you're hanging out with a wealthy director in the
Speaker 2: Hollywood wood who is a straight man, like your husband
Speaker 2: should be bothered by that. And also when you.
Speaker 1: Use the realtor comment, like, wouldn't they not be hanging
Speaker 1: out at chateaum Ormont, wouldn't they be hanging out at
Speaker 1: open houses and going to look at places for him
Speaker 1: to purchase? Yeah, like, we don't hang out at the
Speaker 1: I mean I've never hung out with my realtor by
Speaker 1: the pool.
Speaker 2: No, no, in a beginning, llo, but.
Speaker 1: You can see Luke Colorado in the jacuzzie, like with
Speaker 1: his miller light, like the way I'm with my candidate
Speaker 1: dry and he's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, now, okay, So how does Luke know this?
Speaker 1: Is this?
Speaker 2: Because Michelle told Christen something a while ago. I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my guess is that Kristen and Michelle and Luke
Speaker 1: have had a pretty close friendship prior to leading up
Speaker 1: to this, and they know all the dirty deeds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Luke wants to say it so badly, he
Speaker 2: wants to, but he just can't. But I think he's
Speaker 2: going to. I mean, I think I think we're pretending.
Speaker 1: I mean because even in the scene, he kind of
Speaker 1: looks at Jesse and he's like, so, if something were
Speaker 1: to have happened, would you have gotten over it?
Speaker 2: Jesse says, you absolutely not, right right?
Speaker 1: And then then the confessional he was like pitting out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think Michelle's cheated? I mean, what else
Speaker 2: could it be?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if she's cheated or if
Speaker 1: she's just saying she's interested. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: an emotional affair. I cannot speculate at this point. But
Speaker 1: I did see the scenes for next week where it
Speaker 1: seems we're about to find out more, right, But do
Speaker 1: you think it's going to be Luke that spills it
Speaker 1: or I know he'll probably get it.
Speaker 3: Christ will probably do it in some way. Kristin's such
Speaker 3: an impact, she's going to have to I know that's right,
Speaker 3: because she feels it deeply. So she's going to have
Speaker 3: to say something. She can't hold on to it. She
Speaker 3: can't hold onto it. She'll know what it'll affect the
Speaker 3: energy in the room exactly. But everyone's going to get
Speaker 3: mad at her. She's always the messenger.
Speaker 2: I still do not understand why Michelle isn't upset with
Speaker 2: whoever said the original comment Janet about the whole You know, well,
Speaker 2: I remember what it was.
Speaker 1: She's a Republican, she's a publican and a rasis like
Speaker 1: all those things.
Speaker 2: Like we never actually got to the point where she
Speaker 2: was upset at the actual person who said it. Like
Speaker 2: I like how Janet just kind of she just kind
Speaker 2: of gets through, gets by with everything.
Speaker 1: Janet's able to kind of make everybody feel.
Speaker 2: Like they're her best friend.
Speaker 1: I mean, even didn't on the podcast with Katie Maloney,
Speaker 1: didn't she say I like Janet and Jesse.
Speaker 2: Yes, she did, and.
Speaker 1: I was like, like, out of first couples, that's what
Speaker 1: you go for first. Well, first I had to google
Speaker 1: who's Janet and Jesse?
Speaker 2: Who's Jesse?
Speaker 1: But then I once I got through that part, then
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, but.
Speaker 2: I guess I mean it makes sense. They seem like
Speaker 2: a funny couple.
Speaker 1: Just they seem like a funny suited couple as well,
Speaker 1: but they seem to have.
Speaker 2: A good Janna and Jason. Oh my god, is Jesse
Speaker 2: Janet and Jason? Hold on?
Speaker 1: But didn't she say Janet, Oh no, Jesse's the other
Speaker 1: dude's side, Because then I asked her, what do you
Speaker 1: think of Jesse?
Speaker 2: Oh right, that's what it was. Okay, so Janet and Jason.
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, But then Luke and his confessionals says, yeah,
Speaker 1: I am holding a secret that could ruin everything. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I hate to break it to you, Luke, it's already
Speaker 1: been ruined.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not. They're not the epitome of a happy,
Speaker 2: happy marriage.
Speaker 1: So but what was he implying when Jesse, Oh, well
Speaker 1: not what was he implying? But what about when Jesse
Speaker 1: goes he tell his daughter that his mom everything up.
Speaker 1: It's the battle for who's the worst this EPI like,
Speaker 1: why is that really what you would.
Speaker 2: Say to your daughter? I know, you know what. I
Speaker 2: was going to ask you what you thought about that comment,
Speaker 2: because Michelle makes all these comments about hell Jesse's a
Speaker 2: good dad, but like, I don't see it. Is he
Speaker 2: your good dad? Well?
Speaker 1: They Jesse also said when Isabella is around Michelle, she's
Speaker 1: completely different. Isabella seems like a perfect like she entertains herself,
Speaker 1: she's playing around, She doesn't seem to be I don't
Speaker 1: know what happens in the dynamic when all four of
Speaker 1: them together, because I'm still stuck on the one bike ride.
Speaker 2: I saw the rest of the time they're apart. You're
Speaker 2: going to ride the bike, get on the bike. We're founding,
Speaker 2: ride the bike. But yeah, I all I.
Speaker 1: Was thinking, was I really hope that Jesse doesn't say
Speaker 1: this a merchant his daughter. Yeah, when this does come out,
Speaker 1: because we know that it's out now they are broken up.
Speaker 2: I hope that wasn't the conversation he had with a
Speaker 2: three year old. He sat her down and was like, look,
Speaker 2: your mom, everything out? Do you need your passy to soothe?
Speaker 1: But I also, you know, kind of During this I
Speaker 1: was wondering about how Luke and Kristin got together, and
Speaker 1: also how they got to.
Speaker 2: The point of knowing this was all going to blow up.
Speaker 1: Like how does this all happen? We know Luke and
Speaker 1: Kristin met at a wedding blah blah blah, but how
Speaker 1: did this closeness start? Like how did these people meeting?
Speaker 2: Because they're in two separate geographical locations and hold, so,
Speaker 2: how did they build a relationship where they're so close
Speaker 2: and so into each other? Yes, I don't know, that's
Speaker 2: a good question. I mean a lot of texting. I
Speaker 2: don't know. The thing is that kills me about their
Speaker 2: relationship is that they talk so much about having a baby,
Speaker 2: but they don't talk about the logistics of how that's
Speaker 2: going to work. I feel like they've made it clear
Speaker 2: that they're both going to live in two separate places
Speaker 2: and he's not willing to move to la and she's
Speaker 2: not willing to live in Colorado. But they just keep
Speaker 2: this conversation going about having a child, and I just
Speaker 2: keep thinking about how is this going to work?
Speaker 1: I also keep thinking they talk about sex a lot,
Speaker 1: and listen, I'm happy to talk about sex as much
Speaker 1: as the next person. But I also need to point
Speaker 1: out something and this isn't I'm not throwing shade, but
Speaker 1: like she keeps saying you need to be with a
Speaker 1: thirty two year old, I'm like, you guys all look
Speaker 1: at the same age, So just so we're clear, it's
Speaker 1: not like we're looking at Schwartz's girlfriend at this point
Speaker 1: and we're like, whoa like? And then I started to
Speaker 1: really question my own self, like that man is ten
Speaker 1: years younger than me and seventeen younger years younger than you.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for pointing that out. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you had that math ready to go.
Speaker 2: This was premeditated. I did the math.
Speaker 1: I've been so so good.
Speaker 2: Right, that was the fastest math I've ever seen you too, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you knew it extrictly how much older I was?
Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Oh gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, well here's the thing. It's like, well, I was
Speaker 1: I right, I don't know. I can't even do something
Speaker 1: to howl.
Speaker 2: Are you at school? I'm forty eight, so what's the math?
Speaker 2: Sixteen years? So I'm solved by one. Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: even know.
Speaker 1: All right, Then the girls are drinking wine and having
Speaker 1: which I don't like this game where the jinga game
Speaker 1: where they all.
Speaker 2: Write their questions.
Speaker 1: It's the same questions, like just the same as any
Speaker 1: Housewife show where there's a card game you throw out
Speaker 1: or that never have I ever like.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, just wait till you watch I really
Speaker 2: these questions give like just talk ask questions like you
Speaker 2: and I can ask each other questions. Why is there
Speaker 2: always had to be a game involved? But Brittany, I
Speaker 2: mean the question did lead to Brittany's poop story. And
Speaker 2: I know how much you enjoy a good poop story.
Speaker 2: I do enjoy a good poop story.
Speaker 1: But I have to say, at one point in time,
Speaker 1: Jax must have been very attracted and very in love
Speaker 1: with Brittany, because if I asked Edwin to get in
Speaker 1: the ocean so I could ship next to him and
Speaker 1: walk away with my ship following.
Speaker 2: He would be like, the sais ate the poop? What
Speaker 2: are they called? Sea rays? Are sea ray? Stingrays? Yes,
Speaker 2: sea rays like the ste ate the poop.
Speaker 1: Like, listen, I may not be the biggest environmentalist, but
Speaker 1: what did those stingrays do to deserve me?
Speaker 2: Ma's cheese all over?
Speaker 1: Them, like I just and also I want to know,
Speaker 1: like if I have been in a situation. I grew
Speaker 1: up on an island, so like I've been in a
Speaker 1: situation where I've had to shit on a boat.
Speaker 2: Do you think I told anyone? Oh, but that boat
Speaker 2: had no restrooms so she had to go walk out
Speaker 2: into the water and stop. Learly.
Speaker 1: No, any of the boats that I grew up riding
Speaker 1: around on with my friends didn't have but we'd be
Speaker 1: on like a sand dune, and then you just go
Speaker 1: far away from everybody and they assume you're ping, and
Speaker 1: if accidentally you had to poop and run, that's what
Speaker 1: it is. But please don't invite your significant other.
Speaker 2: Or tell the parents. Well, no, the parents they now know,
Speaker 2: but they didn't know at the time. Apparently she said
Speaker 2: she didn't know. If they knew at the time, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but if he were pretending they didn't know.
Speaker 1: But then Michelle saying she doesn't even Michelle must like
Speaker 1: Jesse a little bit. If she's not even willing to
Speaker 1: shit in the same hotel room that he's in, she's
Speaker 1: willing to.
Speaker 2: Go to the lobby. I just want to know how
Speaker 2: it happens at home, Like does she wait for him
Speaker 2: to not be there.
Speaker 1: Well, what I do know is I didn't need the
Speaker 1: editors to show the flashback of Jack shitting on the toilet.
Speaker 1: I didn't need to see that either with the door open.
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't need it.
Speaker 1: Didn't need it on the phone, Like I know, everybody
Speaker 1: sits as Jerry's I give this shit a five point five.
Speaker 1: It's not full banana shit.
Speaker 2: But he's like, hey, this is Jack's uh to doe
Speaker 2: it my cameo while I take a shit. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then Brittany tells the girl she hasn't had sex in
Speaker 1: a month and a half and how Jack consistently puts
Speaker 1: her down, which that consistently putting down.
Speaker 2: She really does lift Jack's up.
Speaker 1: I mean she may shit on boats with Jack's but
Speaker 1: she really does lift him up and have his back,
Speaker 1: even when he invited Kristen's.
Speaker 2: Ex to he did. She has played. She does take
Speaker 2: up for him and make excuses for him a lot,
Speaker 2: but clearly she's not getting any reciprocation.
Speaker 1: Then they show Malibu the morning after Janet says Girls'
Speaker 1: Night was a success. They all seem violently hungover, so
Speaker 1: like they can't they can't even look except for Michelle.
Speaker 1: She doesn't seem to hungover. She seems interested in having
Speaker 1: a what are they called, oh bloody Mary Mary?
Speaker 2: Because she was going to head to shoutow Mormont. I know,
Speaker 2: I was just going to say that she's just going
Speaker 2: to go to shoutou Mormant, so she needed to get
Speaker 2: the party started. What kind of bag did Britney pukein?
Speaker 2: Do we think?
Speaker 1: Do we think it was the chip bag because they
Speaker 1: were eating chips the day before, or like, why did
Speaker 1: it need to be left in the driveway? Isn't there
Speaker 1: trash can outfunt?
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I guess you just she didn't
Speaker 2: pull over. See I would pull over and make her
Speaker 2: get out and puke. I wouldn't want her to puke
Speaker 2: right next to me into a bag while I'm driving.
Speaker 1: Well maybe it happened multiple times and she was they
Speaker 1: were driving, and she was like, they didn't want to
Speaker 1: puke to splatter all over the back of the car,
Speaker 1: so they put the.
Speaker 2: Bag and I don't know, I'm not a puker. Then
Speaker 2: we get back.
Speaker 1: Then it's a we get from puke to hangovers to
Speaker 1: Nia talking to Danny and just once again I didn't
Speaker 1: expect to have such a real, honest, helpful conversation to
Speaker 1: appear on this show. So thank you Nia for being
Speaker 1: open and vulnerable and you know, for not puking in
Speaker 1: your driveway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, classy, She's a classy lady.
Speaker 1: We appreciated it, Nia, And I'm glad that Ac got
Speaker 1: fixed because the valley is hot.
Speaker 2: The valley is hot, especially it looks like it would
Speaker 2: be super hot in a condo with three little children,
Speaker 2: and no Ac, I would die.
Speaker 1: Also, when Jesse was talking about how much he despised
Speaker 1: the valley, I'm like, Jesse, now that you're divorced or
Speaker 1: getting divorced, you may be living in the valley soon enough,
Speaker 1: my friend, So I wouldn't be.
Speaker 2: Talking to that much, right.
Speaker 1: We all think we're going to stay somewhere and then
Speaker 1: everybody ends up over here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then jack talks to Brittany about her heavy drinking
Speaker 1: when she goes out.
Speaker 2: Brittany doesn't want her in Jackson's relationship to end up
Speaker 2: like Michelle and Jesse's, which this conversation is actually hard
Speaker 2: to watch because we know that they end up separated,
Speaker 2: and I felt like Brittany was like trying to be
Speaker 2: real enthusiastic about that's never going to help happen to us.
Speaker 2: We're biggest things, right right, every best friends, I am
Speaker 2: your ride or die. That's never going to happen to us.
Speaker 2: And I felt like she was really trying to, like,
Speaker 2: you know, right, write Jacks and he.
Speaker 1: Just well, And then Jack's like the D word doesn't
Speaker 1: exist in his family. They don't think it will ever
Speaker 1: happen to them. But then they start to talk about sex.
Speaker 1: But meanwhile he's.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't busy. He's like, I got aletach and
Speaker 2: I'm so tired. I have all these cameos to do,
Speaker 2: like I probably have. What is it when like meat's undercooked?
Speaker 2: I have salmon? Like I, well, what do you think
Speaker 2: it is? Do you think he's not attracted to or
Speaker 2: anymore and he's just checked out? Is that? Because that's
Speaker 2: what I get from it.
Speaker 1: I think that oftentimes, whether people want to admit it
Speaker 1: or not, there are times in your relationship where it
Speaker 1: may pivot in the attraction level. In order to get
Speaker 1: yourself back on track, you have to like make the
Speaker 1: effort to have sex. If you don't and too much
Speaker 1: time passes, you just stop having sex. So whether it
Speaker 1: means that he's attracted to her or not, or whether
Speaker 1: it means that they've just gotten out of habit of
Speaker 1: making an effort to be together in any sort of
Speaker 1: intimate way. I mean, I have friends and that have
Speaker 1: gone years because now it's so uncomfortable for one of
Speaker 1: them to make a move. And I can say after
Speaker 1: I had my son cruise edwhen I went for a
Speaker 1: while without and then it got to the point where
Speaker 1: I started feeling insecure and started feeling like Edwin wasn't
Speaker 1: attracted to me, and we went through.
Speaker 2: Like that was our roughest time in our marriage.
Speaker 1: So if you don't talk about it and you don't
Speaker 1: work through it, you can't just pretend it's going to
Speaker 1: get better on its own. Yeah, I guess my takeaway
Speaker 1: from that conversation was that Britney was committed to talking
Speaker 1: about it and making it better. I don't feel like
Speaker 1: he was fully invested in the conversation or making it better,
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't seem interested to me. And I hate
Speaker 1: to even ask this, but I just need to know
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Do you think this means he's having sex
Speaker 1: with somebody else or he's just taken that Like I'm
Speaker 1: not having sex with it, Like because I'm not having
Speaker 1: sex with my wife, I'm just like out of sight,
Speaker 1: out of my mind, I'm.
Speaker 2: Not having sex. I don't know. I just I can
Speaker 2: only compare it to my relationship with Shane. And Shane
Speaker 2: we've been together fifteen years, and he always wants to
Speaker 2: have sex. There's never a time period when he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Even when I was at my heaviest or when I
Speaker 2: gained forty pounds, he still was attracted to me and
Speaker 2: he still wanted to have sex all the time. So
Speaker 2: to me, based upon my experience, when a man is
Speaker 2: in a committed relationship but it goes a long period
Speaker 2: of time without having sex, that doesn't make sense to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's getting it somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or unless you're struggling and you have to work
Speaker 1: through something. But no, I mean there are but there
Speaker 1: are times like I'm a very attracted to Edwin, Like
Speaker 1: I love him, you know, he's my best friend. He
Speaker 1: doesn't exist in this one.
Speaker 2: But are you fakest Thames more thickest Thames?
Speaker 1: But like he was going out of town and it
Speaker 1: was like late and Edwin started.
Speaker 2: And I was like, babe, and he.
Speaker 1: Was like please, and I was like, okay, you.
Speaker 2: Know, like I gave in.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like on the top priority list for me.
Speaker 1: I had already done all my nighttime activities and I
Speaker 1: was ready for night night. But I still was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, like he is going out of town, like you,
Speaker 1: you make allowances for maybe the moment, and then I'll
Speaker 1: joke about I'll be like I took one for the
Speaker 1: team there.
Speaker 2: Just for the record. I'm sure he appreciates hearing that.
Speaker 2: He was like you did, and I appreciate it, thank you.
Speaker 1: You know, but like you should be able to laugh
Speaker 1: and have real conversation, not just well, if you wanted
Speaker 1: to last more than two seconds, we have to do
Speaker 1: butt stuff.
Speaker 2: I think, yes, I'm sure she was like yay. I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe she was. Maybe she was like I'll
Speaker 2: take whatever I can get. Do you think they had
Speaker 2: sex though?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, don't you think they just did that scene and
Speaker 2: they were like, oh, yeah, let's go, let's do some
Speaker 2: butt stuff. Then they were like in scene, all right,
Speaker 2: you go back to the couch. I'm gonna go upstairs,
Speaker 2: yeah and watch Netflix. I don't even know that they've
Speaker 2: had sex since that scene.
Speaker 1: Probably not, Like, I just don't think that conversation because
Speaker 1: she was also laughing about it, because you could tell
Speaker 1: she's feeling bad about it. She's laughing about it. He's
Speaker 1: making excuses on how tired he is from running a
Speaker 1: bar and apparently leaf blowing his backyard. Like, I just
Speaker 1: didn't feel that connection and there was no touching. Normally,
Speaker 1: when you're about to have sex, there is some sort
Speaker 1: of like physical intimacy of any kind, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what about the Jesse has now cried? We have now
Speaker 1: seen Jesse's shed of tear.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like he just like reached over, grabbed
Speaker 2: an onion and then cried.
Speaker 1: You think he like took his Starbucks cup and jiggled
Speaker 1: at the eyeside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I actually think in that moment, maybe because he's so
Speaker 1: obsessed with himself, the idea that somebody else isn't obsessed
Speaker 1: with him is heartbreaking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. I'll go with that.
Speaker 1: But I do think he says he knows he wants
Speaker 1: to make it work, and then completely deadpan, she's like,
Speaker 1: I can't really make any promises on my end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no emotion, no.
Speaker 1: Motion, He's crying and then coming up next week, we
Speaker 1: see Michelle's secrets are going to be aired to the
Speaker 1: entire group. Yay, yay, But also do we think that
Speaker 1: some of these issues between Michelle and Jesse have to
Speaker 1: do with just the way he acts in general? Or
Speaker 1: do you think there has been Do you think this
Speaker 1: michelle secrets being aired? Do you think this is the
Speaker 1: first there's been secrets or do you think their entire
Speaker 1: relationship has been secrets? But just getting the vibe off
Speaker 1: the two of them, I don't know. I mean, she
Speaker 1: has so little emotion, it's hard for me to read her.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if she went into.
Speaker 2: This marriage very calculated knowing it wouldn't work out, or
Speaker 2: if she actually was committed and had some emotions at
Speaker 2: some point and now she's just she met she met
Speaker 2: the guy at the Chateau Marmond. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I also wonder, how do you
Speaker 2: come onto a reality show knowing that people know secrets
Speaker 2: about you that you're on a show with unless you're
Speaker 2: okay with it coming out When that person is Kristen, right,
Speaker 2: like you know that's going to come up, Like I yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean there are certain people in my life that
Speaker 2: I feel like would hold a secret for me.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that person would necessarily be Christian, like
Speaker 1: when you just see historically throughout all of the years.
Speaker 1: Do I like watching Kristin? Yes? Do I have I
Speaker 1: been around her and she's a lot of fun. Yes,
Speaker 1: as she always been nice to me.
Speaker 2: Yes. Would you tell her your deepest started secrets and
Speaker 2: then go on a television show with her? No? I
Speaker 2: don't know. So Okay, Well, so here's my question. Do
Speaker 2: you think because Michelle is on a reality show, she
Speaker 2: knows that people on the show with her know the
Speaker 2: secret about her? Do you think she's making the relationship
Speaker 2: look worse so it looks reasonable that she had an affair,
Speaker 2: possibly allegedly. She would be very if that is the case.
Speaker 2: She is very smart. Jesse started.
Speaker 1: But Jesse does a pretty good job of making himself
Speaker 1: look like an asshole without Sean needing.
Speaker 2: To do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't really need help in that area. Well,
Speaker 1: I have a question for you then, Yeah, just a
Speaker 1: hypothetical question. If I were to share with you the
Speaker 1: dark at secrets, because we talk all the time on
Speaker 1: the pod, if I were to share with you and
Speaker 1: then next year I was on Real Housewives of Orange County?
Speaker 2: Would you tell them?
Speaker 1: Absolutely so, don't tell me shit, all right, guys, thanks
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