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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spin off show

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Speaker 1: Popping Off, where we are digging deep on this season

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Speaker 1: of vander Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode

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Speaker 1: of Popping Off with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and.

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Speaker 2: And Emily Simpson. Thanks for joining us. I'm hooked on

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Speaker 2: the Valley. I'm just going to say it. You know,

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Speaker 2: I am too, and I don't. I don't you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't watch reality TV, but I do like the Valley.

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Speaker 2: I do. It's very I like that it's couples. I

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Speaker 2: think that was smart, and I like that every couple

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Speaker 2: is unique and different. It adds a lot of layers

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Speaker 2: and dynamics to the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And on that note, we have to

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Speaker 1: make an announcement. We threw in the towel on vander Pumphilla.

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Speaker 1: We're not doing it enough. Tae arm Sean would say,

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Speaker 1: we're not.

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Speaker 2: We can't. We cannot recap it. No, we can.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I cannot even continue watching it even

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Speaker 1: I have my boundaries when it comes to making money,

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Speaker 1: and she doesn't have a lot of boundaries. So if

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Speaker 1: we put one out there, that's it, and that's no

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Speaker 1: shade to Lisa vander Pump. It's just not like the

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Speaker 1: Valley and Vanner Pump rules.

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Speaker 2: We're good. Okay.

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Speaker 1: This episode starts with the girls taking a trip to Malibu.

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Speaker 1: Can we talk a little bit about leading up to

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Speaker 1: maled Boo, the tension between Brittany and Jack's and how

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Speaker 1: he keeps bringing up her drinking habits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know when they showed those flashbacks where he

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Speaker 2: consistently makes the rude comments to her. You know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know how much is editing because I know, like

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Speaker 2: the first couple of seasons with Shane, they did a

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Speaker 2: really good job of only showing him being a dick,

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Speaker 2: even though he can be a dick, but he also

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Speaker 2: has another side. So I don't know if Jackson is

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Speaker 2: just always on her case all the time or if

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Speaker 2: they're just only showing him being on her case all

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Speaker 2: the time, because I just I mean, knowing that they're

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Speaker 2: separated now, you know, But.

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Speaker 1: Also like yes, sober coach Jack's commenting on somebody else's

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Speaker 1: substance intake, It's like, yeah, tell me more, really, I yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like he puts an emphasis on, like, well,

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Speaker 2: she's a mom, but it's like, but you're a dad,

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Speaker 2: so like a mom is supposed to act a certain way,

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Speaker 2: but a dad doesn't have to. And it's fine for

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Speaker 2: a dad to drink in the pool and eat Hamburgers

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Speaker 2: with flies all over it, but it's not okay. But

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Speaker 2: Brittany will take care of him. That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: She'll take care of him.

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Speaker 1: So but like they even the flashback to I guess

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Speaker 1: the last time Brittany came home like hungover, and you

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Speaker 1: can tell she's like walking outside. I think she's like

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Speaker 1: about to get in the pool or something, and just

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Speaker 1: his face is like one of pure.

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Speaker 2: Repulse, like yeah, yeah, I know. It's like he's like disgusted.

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, I'm not going to pretend that I

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Speaker 1: would assume Shane is probably the same way, Like if

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a I mean, Shane doesn't drink

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Speaker 2: Edwin doesn't drink very often.

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Speaker 1: So if I am overserved, there are times where I

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Speaker 1: don't think Edwin's looking at me with like the most

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Speaker 1: have sex. Then he's excited and he's fine with me

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Speaker 1: being overserved. But there are times where he's like, come on,

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Speaker 1: like it's enough. Yeah, he's not also acting the same

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Speaker 2: Does he look at you with disgust? No, but he'll

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Speaker 2: be like it's time to go. Yeah, Shane's like that too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Shane's like the voice of reason when I

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Speaker 2: have too much tequila, you know, like time to go home,

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Speaker 1: But something else Edwin likes to do when I drink

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Speaker 1: too much is the next day, he likes to recap

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Speaker 1: all the things.

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Speaker 2: Does he take video because Shane's took the last time

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Speaker 2: I got really sick on tequila and I threw up,

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Speaker 2: he took videos of it.

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Speaker 1: No, thank god, he's not done.

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Speaker 2: But now I had to have the car all over

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Speaker 1: But did you put it in a bag and then

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Speaker 1: Brettany did. No.

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Speaker 2: I just puked in the street and it just you know,

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Speaker 1: Shane's number so I can get the video. Absolutely not, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't. Will just be like all I already wake

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Speaker 1: I'm not a thrower upper. I don't tend to be

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Speaker 1: one that throws up. Unfortunately, it would probably help my

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Speaker 1: last night, right, And he'll be like, well you did

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, just say it was fine, because

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Speaker 2: But he never throws your mother in my face. But

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Speaker 2: I also not doing it with my children. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think that's crossing a line. Well, you're a mother, like

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Speaker 2: a mother has a certain way they're supposed to behave. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean mean moms, we do need a night out

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean Edwin did say you're a mother type

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Speaker 1: comment to me, not about drinking. But Dove's about to

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Speaker 1: join a new preschool and they have this and it's

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Speaker 1: like for pre K. So she's leaving preschool going into

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Speaker 1: pre k and they have their like tuition schedule, and

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Speaker 1: then it says like, if you're willing to do this

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Speaker 1: many hours of the baked sale or this money have

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Speaker 1: to pay, right right. So Edwin on a group text

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Speaker 1: with our accountant guy that like pays our stuff, is like, well,

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Speaker 1: that's up to Teddy, And I was like, Haha, you're funny,

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Speaker 1: Like you're just as capable to host the bake sale

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Speaker 1: as I. So, no, that's really on YouTube, buddy, Like,

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Speaker 2: Right, you mean like that's not only a mom job,

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Speaker 2: Like that is a mom and dad job.

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Speaker 1: We both have busy job. We both have multiple jobs.

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Speaker 1: We both are always working and traveling. Like, no, don't

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Speaker 1: just put that's on Teddy.

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Speaker 2: No, that's on us. I just five hours. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I just know. I just write the check. Also, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I can't think of anything worse than doing that many

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Speaker 2: I was like, listen, I'm excited for her to go

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Speaker 2: it's cheaper just to pay it. Yeah, and other moms

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Speaker 2: that are probably going to be more liked to sell it. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I know, haven't they heard about you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And plus the moms that put like their kids like

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Speaker 2: They get eaten a live like you have all the

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you just pay for the blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: Like I forgot who did it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was like Hillary Duff or Jennaa Wann or

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Speaker 1: like one of those really likable people did one of

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Speaker 1: comments of everyone like that's rich coming from you, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, you want us to go door to door

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Speaker 2: Okay, get back to the recap mine. This just happened today.

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Speaker 2: It's fresh for me. Okay, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Kristin thinks she may be pregnant. Michelle doesn't want Kristin

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Speaker 1: to be pregnant because they don't Michelle's quote they don't

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Speaker 1: need more of her around.

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Speaker 2: That was so shady. I was like, but yeah, they

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Speaker 2: that was rude, Like you should never reproduce. Also, do

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Speaker 2: everyone's reaction at the table to her saying she's an EmPATH.

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Speaker 2: Clearly no one's sitting at that table agreed with her,

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Speaker 2: but no one said anything. I was waiting for someone

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Speaker 2: to call her out, but nobody said anything. No, everybody

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Speaker 2: was just like Yeah. It was just like all the

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Speaker 1: But I also think there's a difference between being an

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Speaker 2: So being nervous makes her an EmPATH.

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Speaker 1: Well, knowing that people are mad.

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Speaker 2: At you being in an awkward situation at a table

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Speaker 2: made her an EmPATH. But I was there are some people.

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Speaker 1: To feel awkward, probably right, Like there are some people

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Speaker 2: I was thinking the same. But then Nia. I really

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Speaker 2: felt for Nia this episode. Yeah, absolutely, I mean you

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Speaker 2: you ever have postpartum depression?

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Speaker 1: I had postpartum anxiety, and which can led to like

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Speaker 2: Enjoyed the interaction between the two of them, because even

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Speaker 2: though Shane is a great husband, I wouldn't say that

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have that kind of softness to him. I

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Speaker 1: But then I once I got through that part, then

437
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, but.

438
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 2: I guess I mean it makes sense. They seem like

439
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: a funny couple.

440
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: Just they seem like a funny suited couple as well,

441
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: but they seem to have.

442
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: A good Janna and Jason. Oh my god, is Jesse

443
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: Janet and Jason? Hold on?

444
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: But didn't she say Janet, Oh no, Jesse's the other

445
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 1: dude's side, Because then I asked her, what do you

446
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: think of Jesse?

447
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: Oh right, that's what it was. Okay, so Janet and Jason.

448
00:22:53,720 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, But then Luke and his confessionals says, yeah,

449
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: I am holding a secret that could ruin everything. I'm like,

450
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: I hate to break it to you, Luke, it's already

451
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: been ruined.

452
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not. They're not the epitome of a happy,

453
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: happy marriage.

454
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: So but what was he implying when Jesse, Oh, well

455
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: not what was he implying? But what about when Jesse

456
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: goes he tell his daughter that his mom everything up.

457
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: It's the battle for who's the worst this EPI like,

458
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: why is that really what you would.

459
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: Say to your daughter? I know, you know what. I

460
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: was going to ask you what you thought about that comment,

461
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 2: because Michelle makes all these comments about hell Jesse's a

462
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: good dad, but like, I don't see it. Is he

463
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: your good dad? Well?

464
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: They Jesse also said when Isabella is around Michelle, she's

465
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: completely different. Isabella seems like a perfect like she entertains herself,

466
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: she's playing around, She doesn't seem to be I don't

467
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: know what happens in the dynamic when all four of

468
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: them together, because I'm still stuck on the one bike ride.

469
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: I saw the rest of the time they're apart. You're

470
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: going to ride the bike, get on the bike. We're founding,

471
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: ride the bike. But yeah, I all I.

472
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: Was thinking, was I really hope that Jesse doesn't say

473
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: this a merchant his daughter. Yeah, when this does come out,

474
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: because we know that it's out now they are broken up.

475
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: I hope that wasn't the conversation he had with a

476
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: three year old. He sat her down and was like, look,

477
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: your mom, everything out? Do you need your passy to soothe?

478
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: But I also, you know, kind of During this I

479
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: was wondering about how Luke and Kristin got together, and

480
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: also how they got to.

481
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: The point of knowing this was all going to blow up.

482
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: Like how does this all happen? We know Luke and

483
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: Kristin met at a wedding blah blah blah, but how

484
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: did this closeness start? Like how did these people meeting?

485
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: Because they're in two separate geographical locations and hold, so,

486
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: how did they build a relationship where they're so close

487
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: and so into each other? Yes, I don't know, that's

488
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: a good question. I mean a lot of texting. I

489
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 2: don't know. The thing is that kills me about their

490
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: relationship is that they talk so much about having a baby,

491
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: but they don't talk about the logistics of how that's

492
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: going to work. I feel like they've made it clear

493
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 2: that they're both going to live in two separate places

494
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: and he's not willing to move to la and she's

495
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: not willing to live in Colorado. But they just keep

496
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: this conversation going about having a child, and I just

497
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: keep thinking about how is this going to work?

498
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: I also keep thinking they talk about sex a lot,

499
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: and listen, I'm happy to talk about sex as much

500
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: as the next person. But I also need to point

501
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: out something and this isn't I'm not throwing shade, but

502
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: like she keeps saying you need to be with a

503
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: thirty two year old, I'm like, you guys all look

504
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: at the same age, So just so we're clear, it's

505
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: not like we're looking at Schwartz's girlfriend at this point

506
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: and we're like, whoa like? And then I started to

507
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: really question my own self, like that man is ten

508
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: years younger than me and seventeen younger years younger than you.

509
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for pointing that out. I appreciate that.

510
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you had that math ready to go.

511
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: This was premeditated. I did the math.

512
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: I've been so so good.

513
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: Right, that was the fastest math I've ever seen you too, Yeah,

514
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: but you knew it extrictly how much older I was?

515
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Oh gosh. Yeah.

516
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: Well, well here's the thing. It's like, well, I was

517
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: I right, I don't know. I can't even do something

518
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: to howl.

519
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: Are you at school? I'm forty eight, so what's the math?

520
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: Sixteen years? So I'm solved by one. Okay, I don't

521
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 2: even know.

522
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: All right, Then the girls are drinking wine and having

523
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: which I don't like this game where the jinga game

524
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: where they all.

525
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: Write their questions.

526
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: It's the same questions, like just the same as any

527
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: Housewife show where there's a card game you throw out

528
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: or that never have I ever like.

529
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, just wait till you watch I really

530
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: these questions give like just talk ask questions like you

531
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: and I can ask each other questions. Why is there

532
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: always had to be a game involved? But Brittany, I

533
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 2: mean the question did lead to Brittany's poop story. And

534
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: I know how much you enjoy a good poop story.

535
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: I do enjoy a good poop story.

536
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: But I have to say, at one point in time,

537
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: Jax must have been very attracted and very in love

538
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: with Brittany, because if I asked Edwin to get in

539
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: the ocean so I could ship next to him and

540
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: walk away with my ship following.

541
00:27:54,080 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: He would be like, the sais ate the poop? What

542
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: are they called? Sea rays? Are sea ray? Stingrays? Yes,

543
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: sea rays like the ste ate the poop.

544
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: Like, listen, I may not be the biggest environmentalist, but

545
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: what did those stingrays do to deserve me?

546
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 2: Ma's cheese all over?

547
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: Them, like I just and also I want to know,

548
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: like if I have been in a situation. I grew

549
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: up on an island, so like I've been in a

550
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: situation where I've had to shit on a boat.

551
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: Do you think I told anyone? Oh, but that boat

552
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 2: had no restrooms so she had to go walk out

553
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: into the water and stop. Learly.

554
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: No, any of the boats that I grew up riding

555
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: around on with my friends didn't have but we'd be

556
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: on like a sand dune, and then you just go

557
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: far away from everybody and they assume you're ping, and

558
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: if accidentally you had to poop and run, that's what

559
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: it is. But please don't invite your significant other.

560
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: Or tell the parents. Well, no, the parents they now know,

561
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: but they didn't know at the time. Apparently she said

562
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: she didn't know. If they knew at the time, Yeah,

563
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 2: but if he were pretending they didn't know.

564
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: But then Michelle saying she doesn't even Michelle must like

565
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: Jesse a little bit. If she's not even willing to

566
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: shit in the same hotel room that he's in, she's

567
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: willing to.

568
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: Go to the lobby. I just want to know how

569
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: it happens at home, Like does she wait for him

570
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: to not be there.

571
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: Well, what I do know is I didn't need the

572
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: editors to show the flashback of Jack shitting on the toilet.

573
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: I didn't need to see that either with the door open.

574
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't need it.

575
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: Didn't need it on the phone, Like I know, everybody

576
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: sits as Jerry's I give this shit a five point five.

577
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: It's not full banana shit.

578
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: But he's like, hey, this is Jack's uh to doe

579
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: it my cameo while I take a shit. Yeah.

580
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: Then Brittany tells the girl she hasn't had sex in

581
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: a month and a half and how Jack consistently puts

582
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: her down, which that consistently putting down.

583
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: She really does lift Jack's up.

584
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean she may shit on boats with Jack's but

585
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: she really does lift him up and have his back,

586
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: even when he invited Kristen's.

587
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: Ex to he did. She has played. She does take

588
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: up for him and make excuses for him a lot,

589
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: but clearly she's not getting any reciprocation.

590
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: Then they show Malibu the morning after Janet says Girls'

591
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: Night was a success. They all seem violently hungover, so

592
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: like they can't they can't even look except for Michelle.

593
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: She doesn't seem to hungover. She seems interested in having

594
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: a what are they called, oh bloody Mary Mary?

595
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: Because she was going to head to shoutow Mormont. I know,

596
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: I was just going to say that she's just going

597
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: to go to shoutou Mormant, so she needed to get

598
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: the party started. What kind of bag did Britney pukein?

599
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: Do we think?

600
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 1: Do we think it was the chip bag because they

601
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: were eating chips the day before, or like, why did

602
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: it need to be left in the driveway? Isn't there

603
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: trash can outfunt?

604
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I guess you just she didn't

605
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: pull over. See I would pull over and make her

606
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: get out and puke. I wouldn't want her to puke

607
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: right next to me into a bag while I'm driving.

608
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: Well maybe it happened multiple times and she was they

609
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: were driving, and she was like, they didn't want to

610
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: puke to splatter all over the back of the car,

611
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: so they put the.

612
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: Bag and I don't know, I'm not a puker. Then

613
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: we get back.

614
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: Then it's a we get from puke to hangovers to

615
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: Nia talking to Danny and just once again I didn't

616
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: expect to have such a real, honest, helpful conversation to

617
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: appear on this show. So thank you Nia for being

618
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: open and vulnerable and you know, for not puking in

619
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: your driveway.

620
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, classy, She's a classy lady.

621
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: We appreciated it, Nia, And I'm glad that Ac got

622
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: fixed because the valley is hot.

623
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: The valley is hot, especially it looks like it would

624
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: be super hot in a condo with three little children,

625
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: and no Ac, I would die.

626
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Also, when Jesse was talking about how much he despised

627
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: the valley, I'm like, Jesse, now that you're divorced or

628
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: getting divorced, you may be living in the valley soon enough,

629
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: my friend, So I wouldn't be.

630
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: Talking to that much, right.

631
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: We all think we're going to stay somewhere and then

632
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: everybody ends up over here.

633
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

634
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: But then jack talks to Brittany about her heavy drinking

635
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: when she goes out.

636
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: Brittany doesn't want her in Jackson's relationship to end up

637
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: like Michelle and Jesse's, which this conversation is actually hard

638
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: to watch because we know that they end up separated,

639
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: and I felt like Brittany was like trying to be

640
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: real enthusiastic about that's never going to help happen to us.

641
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: We're biggest things, right right, every best friends, I am

642
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: your ride or die. That's never going to happen to us.

643
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: And I felt like she was really trying to, like,

644
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: you know, right, write Jacks and he.

645
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: Just well, And then Jack's like the D word doesn't

646
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: exist in his family. They don't think it will ever

647
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: happen to them. But then they start to talk about sex.

648
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: But meanwhile he's.

649
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: Like, I don't busy. He's like, I got aletach and

650
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: I'm so tired. I have all these cameos to do,

651
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: like I probably have. What is it when like meat's undercooked?

652
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: I have salmon? Like I, well, what do you think

653
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: it is? Do you think he's not attracted to or

654
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: anymore and he's just checked out? Is that? Because that's

655
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Speaker 2: what I get from it.

656
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Speaker 1: I think that oftentimes, whether people want to admit it

657
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: or not, there are times in your relationship where it

658
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: may pivot in the attraction level. In order to get

659
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: yourself back on track, you have to like make the

660
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: effort to have sex. If you don't and too much

661
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: time passes, you just stop having sex. So whether it

662
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: means that he's attracted to her or not, or whether

663
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: it means that they've just gotten out of habit of

664
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: making an effort to be together in any sort of

665
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: intimate way. I mean, I have friends and that have

666
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: gone years because now it's so uncomfortable for one of

667
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: them to make a move. And I can say after

668
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: I had my son cruise edwhen I went for a

669
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: while without and then it got to the point where

670
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: I started feeling insecure and started feeling like Edwin wasn't

671
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: attracted to me, and we went through.

672
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 2: Like that was our roughest time in our marriage.

673
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Speaker 1: So if you don't talk about it and you don't

674
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: work through it, you can't just pretend it's going to

675
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 1: get better on its own. Yeah, I guess my takeaway

676
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: from that conversation was that Britney was committed to talking

677
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: about it and making it better. I don't feel like

678
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: he was fully invested in the conversation or making it better,

679
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't seem interested to me. And I hate

680
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: to even ask this, but I just need to know

681
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Do you think this means he's having sex

682
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: with somebody else or he's just taken that Like I'm

683
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: not having sex with it, Like because I'm not having

684
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: sex with my wife, I'm just like out of sight,

685
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: out of my mind, I'm.

686
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: Not having sex. I don't know. I just I can

687
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: only compare it to my relationship with Shane. And Shane

688
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: we've been together fifteen years, and he always wants to

689
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 2: have sex. There's never a time period when he doesn't.

690
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: Even when I was at my heaviest or when I

691
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: gained forty pounds, he still was attracted to me and

692
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: he still wanted to have sex all the time. So

693
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: to me, based upon my experience, when a man is

694
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 2: in a committed relationship but it goes a long period

695
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: of time without having sex, that doesn't make sense to me. Yeah,

696
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: and he's getting it somewhere else.

697
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, or unless you're struggling and you have to work

698
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: through something. But no, I mean there are but there

699
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: are times like I'm a very attracted to Edwin, Like

700
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: I love him, you know, he's my best friend. He

701
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: doesn't exist in this one.

702
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: But are you fakest Thames more thickest Thames?

703
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: But like he was going out of town and it

704
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: was like late and Edwin started.

705
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, babe, and he.

706
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: Was like please, and I was like, okay, you.

707
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: Know, like I gave in.

708
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: It wasn't like on the top priority list for me.

709
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: I had already done all my nighttime activities and I

710
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: was ready for night night. But I still was like, okay,

711
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, like he is going out of town, like you,

712
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: you make allowances for maybe the moment, and then I'll

713
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: joke about I'll be like I took one for the

714
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: team there.

715
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: Just for the record. I'm sure he appreciates hearing that.

716
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: He was like you did, and I appreciate it, thank you.

717
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: You know, but like you should be able to laugh

718
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: and have real conversation, not just well, if you wanted

719
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: to last more than two seconds, we have to do

720
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: butt stuff.

721
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: I think, yes, I'm sure she was like yay. I

722
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe she was. Maybe she was like I'll

723
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: take whatever I can get. Do you think they had

724
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: sex though?

725
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: No?

726
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: No, don't you think they just did that scene and

727
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: they were like, oh, yeah, let's go, let's do some

728
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: butt stuff. Then they were like in scene, all right,

729
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: you go back to the couch. I'm gonna go upstairs,

730
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: yeah and watch Netflix. I don't even know that they've

731
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: had sex since that scene.

732
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: Probably not, Like, I just don't think that conversation because

733
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: she was also laughing about it, because you could tell

734
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: she's feeling bad about it. She's laughing about it. He's

735
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: making excuses on how tired he is from running a

736
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: bar and apparently leaf blowing his backyard. Like, I just

737
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: didn't feel that connection and there was no touching. Normally,

738
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: when you're about to have sex, there is some sort

739
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: of like physical intimacy of any kind, right, Yeah, yeah,

740
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: what about the Jesse has now cried? We have now

741
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: seen Jesse's shed of tear.

742
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: Do you feel like he just like reached over, grabbed

743
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: an onion and then cried.

744
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: You think he like took his Starbucks cup and jiggled

745
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: at the eyeside.

746
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

747
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: I actually think in that moment, maybe because he's so

748
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: obsessed with himself, the idea that somebody else isn't obsessed

749
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: with him is heartbreaking.

750
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. I'll go with that.

751
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: But I do think he says he knows he wants

752
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: to make it work, and then completely deadpan, she's like,

753
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: I can't really make any promises on my end.

754
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no emotion, no.

755
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: Motion, He's crying and then coming up next week, we

756
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: see Michelle's secrets are going to be aired to the

757
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: entire group. Yay, yay, But also do we think that

758
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: some of these issues between Michelle and Jesse have to

759
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: do with just the way he acts in general? Or

760
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: do you think there has been Do you think this

761
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: michelle secrets being aired? Do you think this is the

762
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: first there's been secrets or do you think their entire

763
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: relationship has been secrets? But just getting the vibe off

764
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: the two of them, I don't know. I mean, she

765
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: has so little emotion, it's hard for me to read her.

766
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if she went into.

767
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: This marriage very calculated knowing it wouldn't work out, or

768
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: if she actually was committed and had some emotions at

769
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: some point and now she's just she met she met

770
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: the guy at the Chateau Marmond. I don't know. Yeah,

771
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I also wonder, how do you

772
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: come onto a reality show knowing that people know secrets

773
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: about you that you're on a show with unless you're

774
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: okay with it coming out When that person is Kristen, right,

775
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 2: like you know that's going to come up, Like I yeah,

776
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: I mean there are certain people in my life that

777
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: I feel like would hold a secret for me.

778
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that person would necessarily be Christian, like

779
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: when you just see historically throughout all of the years.

780
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: Do I like watching Kristin? Yes? Do I have I

781
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: been around her and she's a lot of fun. Yes,

782
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: as she always been nice to me.

783
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: Yes. Would you tell her your deepest started secrets and

784
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: then go on a television show with her? No? I

785
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: don't know. So Okay, Well, so here's my question. Do

786
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: you think because Michelle is on a reality show, she

787
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: knows that people on the show with her know the

788
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 2: secret about her? Do you think she's making the relationship

789
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: look worse so it looks reasonable that she had an affair,

790
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: possibly allegedly. She would be very if that is the case.

791
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: She is very smart. Jesse started.

792
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: But Jesse does a pretty good job of making himself

793
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: look like an asshole without Sean needing.

794
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: To do that.

795
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't really need help in that area. Well,

796
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: I have a question for you then, Yeah, just a

797
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: hypothetical question. If I were to share with you the

798
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: dark at secrets, because we talk all the time on

799
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: the pod, if I were to share with you and

800
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: then next year I was on Real Housewives of Orange County?

801
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 2: Would you tell them?

802
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely so, don't tell me shit, all right, guys, thanks

803
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: for tuning in to another episode of Popping Off. Make

804
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: sure you tune in later tonight because we will be

805
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: dropping another episode with Katie from vander Pump Rules and

806
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: it's juicy juicy