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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Sophia Bush here. Welcome to Work in Progress,

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Speaker 1: where I talked to people who inspire me about how

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Speaker 1: they're still going. Today's episode is pretty special and maybe

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Speaker 1: a little out of the ordinary because I actually am

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Speaker 1: interviewing my personal doctor, Dr Lekos. When I went in

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Speaker 1: for my first appointment with Dr Lekos, he spent over

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Speaker 1: two hours with me. You guys, it was incredible, and

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Speaker 1: he taught me so much about my own health that

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Speaker 1: honestly I never knew and that nobody had ever talked

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Speaker 1: to me about before. And I asked him if he

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Speaker 1: would come on the show and share his knowledge with

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Speaker 1: all of you. So we're going to talk about how

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Speaker 1: the right care, why functional medicine is a important and

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Speaker 1: we get a little metaphysical too. There's a whole lot

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming today. I'm very excited

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Speaker 1: about this. I'm excited for the audience to get to

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Speaker 1: really deep dive with you in the way that I

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Speaker 1: do as your patient. For the last year. I also

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Speaker 1: realized for listeners at home, it's probably a typical for

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Speaker 1: a podcast host to have medical conversations with their doctor

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Speaker 1: on a podcast. But you've taught me so much about

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Speaker 1: a more expanded view of both medicine and care. And

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Speaker 1: I think that as so many people are trying to

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Speaker 1: be healthier, what questions to ask their doctors, this is

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Speaker 1: information that everyone should have access to, and unfortunately, not

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Speaker 1: hours in the day. So there we go. You and

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Speaker 1: I met thanks to Lauren Roxborough, who is an incredible

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Speaker 1: body worker, And how do you explain her? She's just incredible.

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Speaker 1: She so many of you have probably seen, you know,

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Speaker 1: her videos, done her phone rolling exercises. She really, I

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Speaker 1: your GP for you. So that's how we met. Can

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Speaker 1: you explain two people listening at home a little bit

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Speaker 1: about what you do. What is functional medicine. It's a

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Speaker 1: very unique style of practicing for sure, and let me

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Speaker 1: tell you what it's not. It's not conventional Western medicine.

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Speaker 1: And now conventional Western medicine has its place, for sure.

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Speaker 1: It has good acute care. You break your arm, you

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Speaker 1: it's where it really works. But where it fails us

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Speaker 1: is in preventing disease. They don't teach us in medicool

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Speaker 1: how to prevent stuff. It's like treating stuff. So Western

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Speaker 1: more about being proactive and staying healthy and getting healthy

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Speaker 1: So we look at when someone comes to you, they

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Speaker 1: Western medicine is like, oh, you have heartburn, here's your pill.

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Speaker 1: your another pill. It's all about treating symptoms. I'm not

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Speaker 1: That's right, the root cause. And number two, we look

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Speaker 1: and the you know, we talked about the mind. How

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Speaker 1: But and then we talk about spirituality, which is a

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Speaker 1: just such evidence of how powerful the mind is. If

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Speaker 1: It was like a such a defeating feeling, like this

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Speaker 1: at home, your your wife is like, oh, this is

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Speaker 1: a problem that and she's upset, and you're like, whatever,

428
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: it's you're not dying, come on, and she gets yells

429
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Speaker 1: at you like you're a freaking robot. You don't react

430
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: to anything. You're just like cold, stone faced. You know,

431
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: it makes you unemotional and you can't turn it on

432
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Speaker 1: and off. So I would imagine I would imagine that

433
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: in that experience, it's not like you could turn to

434
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: her and say, the reason that this isn't causing a

435
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: reaction in me is because I saw this horrible thing yesterday.

436
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: You can't you don't have the you don't. It's not

437
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: like you can be vulnerable at home and then impenetrable

438
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: in the e er. Some people can't. I couldn't. So

439
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Speaker 1: how did you begin to cope with that? Because obviously

440
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: there's a wake up call where you realize, I don't

441
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: want to live this way. I don't want to have

442
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: these these boundaries up so that I don't have to

443
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: feel all this sadness. So what do you do? Yeah,

444
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: I started noticing um at home? You had noticed? Wow,

445
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: I've I feel like alone? I really did. Wife and

446
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: kids doing their thing, and you feel so detached from it.

447
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: It's the most bizarre, weirdest thing ever. Did you ever

448
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: feel like you had a bird's eye view of your

449
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: own life? No? I like that. But then you become

450
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: aware of what's going on and you can realize you're

451
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: wall that you put up for safety is creating a

452
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: wall around the people you love between So you have

453
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: to work on breaking down the wall. Where do you start? Well,

454
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: I wear an us is first, you've got to be

455
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: aware of it. And I tried psychedelics to see if

456
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: that would change me as a person, because I was

457
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: hearing about people coming out of these experiences after psilocybin

458
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: or d m T how much they're changed people, and

459
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: I thought that would make me change. Can I ask

460
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: how a traditional medicine doctor winds up deciding that a

461
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: psychedelic experience might be the way to go because so

462
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 1: many people, and I'm sure so many people listening at

463
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: home wouldn't assume that and would think you might be opposed.

464
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: But now there's so much research coming out. You know,

465
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: you see the research being done at Johns Hopkins with

466
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: psilocybin as an alternative to an antidepressant, how healing plant

467
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: medicine actually is for the body. You see it being

468
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: decriminalized in Oakland and Denver, all of these incredible trials

469
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: happening with healing on a spectrum of illnesses from plant medicine,

470
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: be a psilocybin or CBD. You see research being done

471
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: with veterans with incredible PTSD being treated with M d

472
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: M A to break the trauma cycle and the body

473
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: and create euphoria so that their body unlearns trauma patterns.

474
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: How do you think you've found your way to that?

475
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: Because it's really becoming popularized in the last two years,

476
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: I think in sort of common conversation, but what what

477
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: led you there? Was it research that you saw? Was

478
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: it someone who had an experience and you figured, I

479
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: understand chemically how that works, maybe that would be good

480
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: for me. How how do you make the decision across

481
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: that boundary? There was some research into it, Like I

482
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: was hearing about what the studies you just mentioned in

483
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: the And you know MAPS in New York is the

484
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: big group. Can you tell the listeners at home what

485
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: MAPS is? Who don't know? MAPS is a privately funded

486
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: organization that research is still assignment and psychedelics for the

487
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: for health and well being, like you just mentioned all

488
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: the depression ptsd M, d m A for that. So

489
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: they've created this the pathways, so to speak. So there amazing.

490
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: But I was looking at that and I was reading

491
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: articles on people who have done these things, and that

492
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: came out different. I'm like, I was so desperate to

493
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: change myself that I would I was going to try anything,

494
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: and so I did, and you know, it helped me

495
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, but I had a long

496
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: way to go, and I kept diving into well it's

497
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: micro dose for a while and see what that's like

498
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: with psilocybin. That helps too, And but then it's just

499
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: a stepping stone. And for people at home, when you

500
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: talk about micro dosing, that's such a small dosage is

501
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: essentially like, and correct me if I'm wrong here in

502
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: my understanding. It's essentially like if you had been prescribed

503
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: let's say, alexa pro or a well View Trends, some

504
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: sort of traditional antidepressant, rather than taking a chemical compound,

505
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: do you take a small dose of psilocybin that doesn't

506
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: create any noticeable effect. You're not like mushroom tripping making

507
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: a movie. It's a totally superceptual what no idea that

508
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: it's doing. You feel it, got it? But it helps

509
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: to gradually opens the mind, the intuition, the heart, the

510
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: you know. It's like you just mentioned people doing the

511
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: big journeys getting healed from depression and PTSD. It's like

512
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: a subtle or slower way of that happening to you,

513
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: a natural alternative to a daily antidepressant. Essentially interesting, So

514
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: do you think because I wonder when you say, maybe

515
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: this is just me recognizing a little bit of myself

516
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: and you and we know we're similar people. So I'm

517
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: just going to go in with this question which I

518
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: might be asking myself. But when you say, um, that

519
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: you really wanted to change, You wanted to make a change.

520
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: You knew that you were living in this in this

521
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: walled up way, and it had to be different. You know.

522
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: You just said, like I would have tried anything. Do

523
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: you think maybe at first you thought, oh, that might

524
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: fix it, like maybe that will be my quick fix totally,

525
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: and then to the point of functional medicine, you realize, oh,

526
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: it's a lifestyle change. It's a requirement of eating differently,

527
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: talking to myself differently, integrating meditation, different sleep practices. I know,

528
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: because I'm learning all of this right now, I'm like, weird.

529
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: It's so weird. I did the thing and I'm not

530
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: just suddenly better and a superhero. It's so strange. I

531
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: have to do this every day. Okay, great, every day.

532
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: So what do you what do you think after you

533
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: realized there wasn't a quick fix and you realized maybe

534
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: this e R medicine world wasn't for you, that it

535
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: was I don't want to say killing your sensitivity. I

536
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: don't want to put words in your mouth, but that's

537
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: a good way to put it. Okay, With the people

538
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: I loved, it was weird, like it seemed like this

539
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: is when I was with my family or even my

540
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: parents or brothers, sister, like, I've had this like lifelong

541
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: thing about it was hard for me to show love.

542
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: I felt like I needed to get out of that

543
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: hug quick because I would feel vulnerable. I would feel

544
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: like I'm about to get hurt, you know. I wanted

545
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: to get out of it so I would make it quick.

546
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: And that's not a good way to live. It's not

547
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: a good way to be a dad and a husband

548
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: and et cetera. And so I was really like, why

549
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: am I like this? Why what is this going on?

550
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: Where did this come from? It's like he was driving

551
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: me bananas. So that's why I was mentioned to you

552
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: earlier about how I did past life aggression ten days ago,

553
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: and I that whole thing became clear and I feel

554
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: relieved of that burden now. That's yeah, that's what blowing

555
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: my mind is, Like, I don't feel like that anymore

556
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: based on what I went through during my past life aggression.

557
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: It showed me things that explained to me why I'm

558
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: that way. And I don't know if it's are you

559
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: releasing past lives? I don't know, is that your mind

560
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: trying to heal you while you're in this hypnotic state.

561
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't really care, right, you know,

562
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: past life aggression is like a branch of hypnosis that

563
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: takes you deep in your mind, into the inner awareness

564
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: of you. I kind of it kind of felt like

565
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: you got out of the way and you left your

566
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: spirit or soul or mind to divine power, whether it's spirit,

567
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: Guid's angels, whatever, to guide you through this experience. But

568
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: in my lives, I had such loss of love many

569
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: many times, and the pain of it was so strong,

570
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: Like I was bawling in there, just bawling because of

571
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: losing my love so many times that my body decided,

572
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: my soul, you ain't doing that again. Brother, you ain't

573
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: gonna feel love again. You're not going to feel that

574
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: suffering and pain again. And that's kind of I was like, Okay,

575
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: now I get it. This is kind of why I'm

576
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: just resonated with me. I know it sounds kind of weird,

577
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: but it resonated with me, and it felt like I

578
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: held that part of me when I got done with it. Wow.

579
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: So like I came home when I saw my son

580
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: and I hugged him and I was crying and I

581
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: was just like, I had none of that usual feeling,

582
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: I would none of that jumpiness in your body, like

583
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: you got to avoid the closeness. And I think so

584
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: many people have that, really, yeah, I do. I I

585
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: think a lot of people, depending on what they've been through,

586
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: can struggle in the face of intimacy. I know for me,

587
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: and we've talked a lot about this, and I've I've

588
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: talked to my audience about this. My experiences in my

589
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: job in Chicago. While there were so many people who

590
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: were amazing, what I was going through with the person

591
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: who was so awful to me affected the whole environment.

592
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: You know, if you if you poison a well, all

593
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: the water is bad. And the jumpiness that I fell

594
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: in that space something I learned and going through trauma

595
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: therapy and and then diving into the research of it,

596
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: because there's people who have been far more traumatized than

597
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: I have, but trauma and the body's trauma and the

598
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: body right, So I started to research the field and

599
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: what I realized is that when you have effects from

600
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: post traumatic stress, your startle response gets really abnormally increased,

601
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: and the jumpiness I would experience, someone would touch me

602
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: on the shoulder from behind, and I would be two

603
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: ft off the ground and like ready to throw a

604
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: punch and ready to run. Sometimes when people would hug me,

605
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: it would actually make me uncomfortable to that, to that

606
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: thing you talk about, like people wanting to hold me

607
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: made me feel icky and I wanted to get out

608
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: of it. Like really, there was a period where anyone

609
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: like I just did not want to be touched. And

610
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: try being a person who's you know on TV that

611
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: strangers want to hug and take trus with it was

612
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: really kind of a nightmare for me. And I would

613
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: power through it and try my best, but it was

614
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: really hard. And sometimes I would leave an interaction with

615
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: strangers and just go home and SOB and I didn't

616
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: know what was happening. And now having done a lot

617
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: of work, both you know, physically with my health, with

618
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: sort of adjusting the way I treat my body, adjusting

619
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: the way I sleep, you know, and and looking at

620
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: the mental effects of this stuff, I feel like a

621
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: completely new person. Like I was at one of my

622
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: best friend's birthday parties last night and ten of us

623
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: were curled up on this big sectional couch together like

624
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: little puppies, just all like curled up on each other's shoulders,

625
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: talking about life and dreams and what we want for

626
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: the next decade and all these things. And I was like, God,

627
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: it's so nice to be back like this. But I

628
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: don't think many of us have been offered a map

629
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: to these avenues to heal. And it excites me when

630
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: people who have traditional and and who are armed with

631
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: accolades like you are, you know, traditional medical training, say

632
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: all the medicine and the e r s and the

633
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: cutting edge technology all matters, and so does all this

634
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: mental exploration. So do these alternative therapies. So does meditation,

635
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: So do sleep, so does diet. It all matters. You

636
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: can't just be a doctor who gives people pills if

637
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 1: you want to be a true doctor, if you want,

638
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: if you want to fulfill your calling to make people well,

639
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: you have to look at the full picture. That's what

640
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: exactly Well said. It is mind, body, spirit, lifestyle. It's

641
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: everything you said. The word spiritual, which I was going

642
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: to come to later, but I shouldn't be surprised that

643
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: we got right into it because all of our talks

644
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: done to be spiritual. How do you think spirituality and

645
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: medicine are tied together because so many people think they're

646
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: separate and you talk about them as though they're really intertwined. Yeah,

647
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, as you know me, it's a big part

648
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: of my world. When I talk to patients about spirituality,

649
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: my first go to her goal for them is to meditate.

650
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: And I love the app brain dot FM. It's my

651
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: favorite app. It's a technology where you listen to these

652
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: cool sounds, very space stuff, and there's hidden tones in

653
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: there that pull your mind into that fade away, which

654
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: is that meditative state of mind. And I'll walk them

655
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: through a meditation and I want them to start connecting

656
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: with themselves to kind of help and guide them through that.

657
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: How do I do that? What do I think about?

658
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: And that's my first step is to start having them

659
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: look at themselves. How do I think? Do I believe

660
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: in something bigger than me? Doesn't matter what it is.

661
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: That's what spirituality means to me, is you believe in

662
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: something bigger than you. It doesn't matter what it is.

663
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: But taking that deep die within yourself and in your

664
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: soul and looking within your heart can really open up

665
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: your mind too. Okay, wow, look at these patterns. I mean,

666
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: look at how I'm thinking, Look at how I'm proceeding

667
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: this reality I'm in. It's so skewed and so wrong

668
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: and so negative. I wonder I feel like ship all

669
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: the time. And so there's many other spiritual modalities. We

670
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: have energy healers and we're we're in l A. We

671
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: have the mecca of all that stuff. We got it all.

672
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: We've got shamans and healers and energy people and past

673
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: life aggression people. We've got mediums. We've got all these people,

674
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: and we we have float tanks on every corner. We

675
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: have all kinds of cool stuff. So that's what what

676
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 1: I would love to see spread more across the country,

677
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: because it really is helpful, really is helpful, And to me,

678
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: I think you kind of need a team sort of.

679
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: You need like the functional nice and doc are like,

680
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: you need healer and energy person. You need to shaman

681
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: or a therapist or whatever. We have energetic workers. We

682
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: have at all kind of create this team approach to

683
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: people's health instead of like, oh, I'm gonna go to

684
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: the doctor for ten minutes and get a prescription to

685
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: walk out, you know. So I'm just keep going back

686
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 1: to this, but I keep finding that if you keep

687
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: looking inside and discovering new stuff about you that these

688
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: the way you think will change over It's just a

689
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 1: slow progression, but you will change and you will start

690
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: to feel better physically. It was really interesting because I

691
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: remember back to our first appointment, and I was in

692
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: your office for two hours. I've never seen a doctor

693
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: for two hours for anyway, not even in an e er.

694
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I've like I've been having, you know, a

695
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: serious injury treated and not seeing a doctor for that long,

696
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: and and you did. You took me through my whole

697
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: medical history, and then you started talking to me about

698
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: what kind of a household I grew up in, and

699
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: how how my relationships had been, and what kind of

700
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: trauma I had experienced, and you know, was I in

701
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: a regular therapy practice and was I meditating every day?

702
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fund is going here? But

703
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: it was also so awesome, But I just it was

704
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: I was sort of dumbfounded by the experience because I'd

705
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: never had that before. And it's been really fascinating to

706
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: start learning how to draw parallels between all of it.

707
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: Why do you think society is so focused on just medicine, medicine, medicine?

708
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: Why do you why do you think the scope is

709
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: so narrow? Well, I think it's the way we're taught.

710
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: And when we're doctors are educated in a certain way.

711
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: You got blood pressure, use drug A, doesn't work at

712
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: B or you see adam together whatever, and we're kind

713
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: of taught that way, and it's kind of wait till

714
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: you get sick, then go in kind of thing, not

715
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: be proactive and preventative. It's just not how we're taught.

716
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: And if you want to go there, you can go there.

717
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: But it's like this big Farma want us to get better.

718
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's about making money too. Yeah, I mean,

719
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: think about how long big Farma fought the rise of

720
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: marijuana as medicine, CBD as medicine, the research that's funded

721
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: through pharmacological companies, and think about how many people are

722
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: serving prison sentence is over marijuana. I think about the

723
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: effects of the pharmaceutical industry fighting the advent of new

724
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: medicines which have then really affected the criminal justice system

725
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: and unfairly treated entire populations in our country. Effect that occurs,

726
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: everything's really connected, you know. It's like those people I

727
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: have families too. That goes even further. It really hurts

728
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: the person. And I don't know, it's it's unfortunate. You know.

729
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: It's like you go to Europe and Germany, other companies

730
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: that are much more progressive, outside the box, different modalities

731
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: using ozone, using other cool technologies that we don't allow here.

732
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: And and you know, is it because we don't want

733
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: to heal stuff as fast as we really really want

734
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: to because of the money thing. I don't I don't

735
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: know what do you mean by ozone? Ozone gas like

736
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: from the atmosphere? Yeah, so Amans have perfected to tell

737
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: us everything what Germans have perfected the administration of ozone

738
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: gas have been doing it for a long time. We

739
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: go to it well when you go to like most

740
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: a lot of doctor's offices in Germany have ozone machines.

741
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: We have them here in California too, were luckily we're

742
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: one of the states that allows the use of it

743
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: quote experimentally. But and what it does is oxygen is

744
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 1: O two, ozone is O three. It's a very unstable gas.

745
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: So if you go to get ozone therapy, they put

746
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: an ivy in your arm, they pull your blood out

747
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: of your body into a machine that puts ozone gas

748
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: in your blood and your blood turns bright cherry red,

749
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: and then that cherry red blood goes back into your

750
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: body because those of the gas. Uh, it kills lots

751
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: of bad cells, like it kills viruses and molds and

752
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: lime and cancer cells. And I've had it done and

753
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: you feel really really good when you get done with it.

754
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: So like it's like, why aren't we having this here?

755
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: Why anyone with mold exposure or lime disease or pre

756
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: cancer cells could get better. That's why I use it

757
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: for OCC patients. So I have these epstein bar and

758
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: these other lime or molds. I'll go, you know, have

759
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: docs in Santa Monica, that duo zone and I'll send

760
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: them there. And you know, sometimes you need one treatment,

761
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: sometimes you need tend just depends. But that's been talking about.

762
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: It's like looking outside of this box, like I don't

763
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: know if the Hello zone was back, And when I

764
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: was training any was that. No one was telling you

765
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: about that. You're not taught and if you're told about it,

766
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: like well that's just bullshit. Who knows that's not gonna

767
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: work because you're not you're not told at works, So

768
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: you you believe what you're told. What do you think

769
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: the larger effects on our medical system are of so

770
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: many doctors having their purviews shrunken down like that? Oh wow,

771
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean you're really limiting care of people. I mean,

772
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate system. Like Look, these doctors are training, it's

773
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: a lot of work, and now it's becoming where they're

774
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: forced to see a lot of patients every day in

775
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: order to make make bills get paid. So they can't

776
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: spend all the time that I can spend. They have

777
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: ten minutes with you and they're out. You know, Insurance

778
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: reimbursements are going down, not doctors got to see more

779
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: people to make gotta pay their staff, etcetera. It's getting

780
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: harder and harder. So it's not a good system. I mean,

781
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a perfect system in the

782
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: world yet. But however, what I'm seeing is more physicians

783
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: I'm meeting and talking to. They are starting to look

784
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: outside the box. And why because people are taking their

785
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: health in their own hands. Now. There's a huge movement

786
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: right now with people They're sick of waiting until they're sick.

787
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not no, I'm gonna start getting proactive in

788
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: my health and I'm gonna start educating myself. Look, if

789
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: you want to get healthy and not get sick, and

790
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: you can't afford you know, functional docs, whatever, start educating yourself,

791
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: see a nutrition It's at the minimum. But listen to podcasts,

792
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: Listen to smart people who know what they're talking about.

793
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: Learn how to bio hack your body, so to speak.

794
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: But people are learning so much that they're going to

795
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: their doctor and saying, hey, I want you to do this,

796
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: I want to do this test. I want to treat

797
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: myself like this. What do you think? And they're like,

798
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 1: what what? What's all this? What are you talking about?

799
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: They don't have no clue. So they're forced to go

800
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: learn and look into these open up different doors that

801
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: they never opened before. And now they're starting to go, Okay,

802
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: well that worked. I tried that on her and it worked.

803
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: So I'm curious about that because to your point, you know,

804
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: you said, if people can't afford to go see a

805
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: functional medicine doctor. You know, I really decided a year ago.

806
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: I said, I've I've had great, fine doctors, I have

807
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: good health care. You know, I'm very pro union for

808
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: exactly that reason. For me. You know, I said, I've

809
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: i've really want to start investing in my health care

810
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: and and in feeling better in in a way like

811
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: I would invest in I don't know something financial, and

812
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: I feel really lucky, you know, I've worked really hard

813
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: and I have the privilege of being able to afford

814
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: being one of your patients. And I am curious what

815
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: you would tell people listening at home when you talk

816
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: about doing research, when you talk about you know, what

817
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: people should be asking of their doctors they have from

818
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: their insurance providers. If you were going to tell people

819
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: five things to do starting today or tomorrow to start

820
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: to change their relationship to their own health, what would

821
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: those things be. Obviously, meditation is number one for you,

822
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: and brain FM or headspace are great resources for that. Yeah,

823
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: so I think the key areas for longevity and health

824
00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: and wellness would be diet and are there I know

825
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: you said obviously that's specific for people, but are there

826
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: general recommendations that work well for everybody? Everyone who I seen,

827
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: as you know, is gluten free and dairy freeing. I

828
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: love intermittent fasting as a way of eating because intermitten

829
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: fasting kind of mimics her genetic pattern. We're still like

830
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: cave people. Do they wake up and have eggs and

831
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: oatmeal and bacon and toast. No, he'll know they're out

832
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: in the bushes looking for some berries and stuff, foraging around.

833
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of research on intermen fasting where

834
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 1: what that generally means is for the audience is uh,

835
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: it's called it like a general speaking it's a sixteen

836
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: to eight rule, sixteen hours of fasting and eight hours

837
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: of eating or the fast fasting is kind of we

838
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: were losing the intermitt fasting word is becoming time restricted

839
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: as the new term now time restricted feeding. So anyway,

840
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: where if you finished dinner at seven, the clock starts

841
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: and you don't eat anything until the next day sixteen

842
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: hours later, which would be eleven am. That's the fast.

843
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: Now you have an eight feed window from eleven a

844
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: m until set and p m. And then at eight

845
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: hours you need to eat your full day's requirements of food.

846
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: That's the biggest mistake I see is people don't do that.

847
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: But fasting and be shown to be very beneficial to

848
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: our health because it lowers cholesterol, blood pressure, Diabetes risk

849
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: goes down, anti aging genes get turned on, cancer risk

850
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: goes down. It's great use weight your brain starts to

851
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: function better. I find that I do really well on

852
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: a twelve hour window. Twelves are fined. The benefits start

853
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: at twelve and they kind of go to sixteens. There's

854
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: it's it's debatable, but there's many ways to intermin fast.

855
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: You can research it and look at it. But I

856
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: love it, and it doesn't work for everybody, know most people, Yes,

857
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: but I love You can try it for free at home.

858
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: It's definitely totally free and don't notice. Oh my god,

859
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: I feel great, my brain feels great. I'm losing weight,

860
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So diets key and I love paleo

861
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: Mediterranean mixture, plant heavy, seventy plants, animal protein. I'm starting

862
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: to have patients to do three days a week of

863
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: just pure vegetarian. I've I've shifted my diet now where

864
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: two meals a day for me your plant based, and

865
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: that's working really well. I noticed that if I go

866
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: any more than that, just because I'm really low and

867
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: iron all the time, something I learned from you. Thank you,

868
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: and I actually I've had that test run over the

869
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: years and been in stages of being an emic and

870
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: then out of it. If I go too much more

871
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: plant based than like a you know, thirty seventy, I

872
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: start to get pretty anemic, and I yeah, I noticed,

873
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, I'll be covered in bruises

874
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: and then my hair starts to fall out, which is

875
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: super cute. Um, I'm like, wow, I'm really shedding a lot.

876
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: This might be too much. Okay, I need to eat

877
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: something right. It's the iron because an gets toward as

878
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: ferrets and and ferrets and if it's too low, can

879
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: cause hair loss. And that's my whole thing. I learned

880
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: that I that I get, I get ferreting through you

881
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: know and stuff. Yeah, so that's that's a really interesting

882
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: diet is a key one. Number two would be exercise.

883
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: Everyone needs to move. That's a key one for longevity.

884
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: How much would you say, because I here's a here's

885
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: a funny connection I notice, especially for women, because we're

886
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: supposed to do everything, and we're supposed to do it

887
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: in a cute outfit with a blowout you know. Uh,

888
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: It's like we're meant to do everything you can do

889
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: and somehow look like we walked off of a runway.

890
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: All the time. I'm like, who has the time, But

891
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: I do because my my best friend and I have

892
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: this incredible, inclusive, non toxic hair salon in Detroit. We

893
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: hear so many women say, oh, well, you know, if

894
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: I get a blow, I'm not going to work out

895
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: for three days because I don't want to sweat out

896
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: my hair, which I understand, but also I'm thinking, but

897
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: we have to be moving. So what do you recommend?

898
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: You know, not everybody has time to go to a

899
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: spin class or a workout or whatever every day. What

900
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: do you say, is the sort of bare minimum? Something

901
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: like like Lauren who introduced us. You know, she's got

902
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: these foam rolling videos you can do at home and

903
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: you won't sweat. I'm curious, is it is it twenty

904
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: minutes minimum a day? Is it thirty? Is it go

905
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: for a long walk after dinner? You know? What do

906
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 1: you what do you say when when you talk about

907
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: especially doing nothing, I'll have you start slow and just

908
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: doing walks and kind of work yourself into it. Just

909
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: depends on your conditioning. But I try to get people

910
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: to do you know, at least three days a week

911
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: of high intensity interval training HIT. So that's been showing,

912
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, science shows that that's probably the most effective

913
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: BANG for your buck. You can bang out a hit

914
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: work out in less than thirty minutes, twenty minutes, so

915
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: we're somewhere in there. You can do it in your bedroom.

916
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 1: You don't even need any equipment. You can you're doing

917
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: body weight moves, and you can go YouTube and find

918
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: tons of hit workouts. Maybe we'll pull together a couple

919
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: that we like and we'll put them in the definitely

920
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: in the resource on this episode for the listener's easy free.

921
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: The big thing for me doing this reset, I don't

922
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: even want to call it a cleanse. It really feels

923
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: like it's a some reset for me. I realized I

924
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: have not had a shred of processed food in seventeen days.

925
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: I feel awesome, And it actually hasn't been that hard, right,

926
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: It's not as hard as people think. It's not as

927
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: hard as you think. I'm dumbfounded, actually, but I did

928
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: realize that for me, you know, part of it has

929
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: been in the prep. So I've been bringing this bag

930
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: that's on the floor, I've been doing this. I've been

931
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: having these giant jars of soup. I've been bringing walnuts.

932
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 1: I've been bringing apples, you know, sunflower butter. I'm I'm

933
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: bringing my own stuff around with me, which I also

934
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: like because then I'm not creating any kind of waste.

935
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: Everything's in a glass jar, everything is in a container

936
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: I own, and I'm kind of trucking around like, look

937
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: at this, I feel great, and I'm not opening these

938
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: plastic bags of toxins and pouring them in my face

939
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: and then wondering why at three o'clock I'm ready for

940
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: a nap. Where you work, they don't provide that for

941
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: the crew, Like all these hard working people, you know,

942
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: they're not making a ton of money, you know, at

943
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: least feeding something good. When people are going in to

944
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: see their healthcare providers, what do they need to be

945
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: asking for? What are what are tests that are not

946
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: commonly run but that we all should be having, And

947
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: how do we begin to ask our doctors to to

948
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: run those things and to check those numbers for us? Well,

949
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, most docs check basic lab panels. It's not

950
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: very in depth. Thyroid is a big one. I see

951
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: that's under checked. They just check markers and they say

952
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: you're fine or not yet the person in front of

953
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: them is having all these low thyroid symptoms. They're not

954
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: diving in deep enough. Um fair attins when we mentioned

955
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: um cardiac profiles are always not done enough. Like we

956
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: stay measured the basic five markers for cholesterol, but they're

957
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: not diving into the particle sizes of cholesterol, the markers

958
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: of vascular inflammation. Those are the things that are predicting

959
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: heart attacks. Is not just like how work in the

960
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: r So I see a ton of heart attacks and

961
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: people who come in who have a heart attack have

962
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: totally normal cholesterol. It's normal. So it's like, well, cholesterol

963
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: is not the bastard we think it is. It's not.

964
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: It's not that what causes heart attacks is like too

965
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: much sugar inflammation, The particle sizes are off system and

966
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: heart disease is actually the number one killer of women

967
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: in the United States, right, So so how if i'm

968
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: if I may, how old should we be as men

969
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: or women when we ask for advanced cardiac panels. If

970
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: you have heart disease in your family, heart attacks, parents, grandparents,

971
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: then you know it's hard to say a number, but

972
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: at least in your around thirty, I would say, Now

973
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: we're seeing teenagers with high cholesterol teenagers. It's so sad

974
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: where we're headed with this lack of exercise and diet

975
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: and stuff. These kids are eating, sitting around in their

976
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: technology all day long. You and I are out running

977
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: the streets on our bikes and having a good time

978
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: be back when the sun goes down kind of thing.

979
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: And now it's so different. Now, it's so different, and

980
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: it's so head of the wrong way. So that's a

981
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: reason for parents to consider limiting screen time as well

982
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: to get their kids moving around. That's really interesting. Okay,

983
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: so ask for a full thyroid panel, ask for start

984
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: looking at your options for deeper cardiac testing at thirty day,

985
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: let's say thirty five. Hard to say, Yeah, it's really

986
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: hard to say. If you have a hard disease, would

987
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: maybe even in late twenties, early thirties. It just depends.

988
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: There's so many factors that they number. I went to

989
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: the audience that matters, like how much do you weigh?

990
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: What are you eating, are you sleeping? Are you stressed?

991
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: All this stuff matters and affects your cholesterol. Stress affects

992
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: your cholesterol. Oh yeah, really stresses the killer. That's what's

993
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: gonna get us all. Wow, that's what causes all the problems. Look,

994
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: stress raises cortisol. That's your stress hormone when your cortisol

995
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: is high all the time, you get these you can get,

996
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: but chronic cortisol elevation causes so many effects on the body.

997
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: Causes insomnia, depression, anxiety, memory problems. Low thyroid you get

998
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: cholesterol raises, hypertension, which is high blood pressure. You can

999
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: get diabetes, gut problems. Hormones get disrupted. Low cistosterone. Do

1000
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: you think that any of those supplements that say they

1001
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: help to regulate cortisol or legit oh, adaptagen's yeah, they

1002
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: are really like what what do you What do you

1003
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: mean by an adaptogen? Adaptogen means that the herb adapts

1004
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: to you, So if your cortisols high, it'll pull it down,

1005
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: if your cortisol is low, it'll pull it up. That's

1006
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: why it's called an adaptagen. Something like an oshwaganda is

1007
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: an adapted da Rodeola, Laura Altheny, wowsandra. There's all kinds

1008
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: of adaptations Xandra berry, right. I don't know why I

1009
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: find that word to be so funny. It reminds me

1010
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: of um, what's the word. It's like that. It's like

1011
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: Willy Wonka to me, like the chisandra berries. Do you

1012
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's like Shausberry. I've never forgotten

1013
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: the word because I find it so funny. And then

1014
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: I think about a kid licking the wallpaper to talk

1015
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: about a psychedelic movie. Um, but those are things that

1016
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: can help in your daily routine. Is that the kind

1017
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 1: of thing you'd recommend everybody just take unadaptagen every day?

1018
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: For sure? Like that's one of the things everyone ends

1019
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: up on with me. The life is stressful out there,

1020
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: and we can only do swee can do what we

1021
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: can do, but it helps to have some kind of

1022
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: helping the body. And then what about magnesium at night,

1023
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: because you're a big proponent of that for sleep. Most

1024
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: common nutrient deficiency in people is magnesium. Really why has

1025
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: a lot to do with the nutrients in our food,

1026
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, and our body burns it up. It's involved

1027
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: and over We used to thinks in the cell. Now

1028
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: it's over seven hundred reactions in the cell. It's play

1029
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: has a role in there, So man, you better have

1030
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: that tanked up. But so many of your actions it's

1031
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: involved with it gets sucked down fast. And magnesium is

1032
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: found in lots of green leafy stuff and people aren't

1033
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: eating enough of that stuff and then diet anyway, and

1034
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: then the stuff that they are eating is not that

1035
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: nutrient rich anymore because our soil is and what it

1036
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: used to be either. Yeah, this is crazy. They're looking

1037
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: at study was done looking at celery and how a

1038
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: nitric oxide raises in our body from eating celery. Nitric

1039
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: oxide vaso dilates our blood vessels and keeps unhealthy. Hold on,

1040
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: you got to go back and explain to people what

1041
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: that means. You're like, vaso dilates. What are you saying, doctor, word?

1042
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: Nitric oxide get produced in our blood vessel walls and

1043
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: it helps keep them healthy and elastic and open in flexible.

1044
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: And when you talk about a blood vessel, are you

1045
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: talking about an actual red blood cell. Blood vessel is

1046
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: like the pipe with which all your blood runs through

1047
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: all over your body. All the pipe, the full vascular

1048
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: stains in arteries. Right, did you see the vascular system

1049
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: in the suspension that the body's exhibit. So cool, We

1050
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: should put that in the We'll put that in the

1051
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: story for you guys, so you can see what it

1052
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: what it is. So in the walls of the blood vessels,

1053
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: nitric oxides and helps them be flexible, plastic, and protects

1054
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: your cholesterol from forming plaque and creating heart disease. So

1055
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: we know that certain foods like celery can increase nitric

1056
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: oxide production. They looked at where did the celery come

1057
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: from the United States and how much nitric oxide would

1058
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: it produce in the blood vessel system. So in Dallas

1059
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: and in Los Angeles, you had to eat four or

1060
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: five stocks of celery to get x amount of nitric

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01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: oxide produced. But in New York you had to eat

1062
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: eighties six stars of celery to get the same amount

1063
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: of nitric oxide production. So that just shows you how

1064
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: it's so different where your food comes from to affect

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01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: your by like, you know, eat this diet X Y

1066
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: Z diet, But it depends on where you live. Now,

1067
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: it's getting very complicated, it's getting very makes your head spin.

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01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: This is why I'm planting my own garden. I'm like,

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01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm out. I'm going to just start to

1070
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: grow some things. See what happens a little patch of land. Yeah,

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01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: I just have a little garden to be amazing. Yeah,

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01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: fresh organic, Okay, so we oh that's interesting. That's where

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01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: we were though. Magnesium for sleep. You said it's the

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01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: most common deficiency and why because I know when I

1075
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: take magnesium to sleep, it's the best sleep in my life.

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01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: What what is it doing? It's a it's a relax

1077
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: into Basically, it makes you relax, feels like magnesium bass,

1078
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: magnesium salts. It does open up the blood vessels, it

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01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: does vaso dil we call it. It just relax you.

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01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: It's very calming to the nervous system too. That's why

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01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: you feel good and you sleep good. But you know,

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01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: it's something that's one of the things I think most

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01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: people should be taking. There's different forms of magnesium that

1084
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: you need to know about. Magnesium glycinate and magnesium malate

1085
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: those are the magnesiums that get absorbed in your body

1086
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: and are good for you. But mag citrate, magnesium oxide,

1087
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: those are the ones that don't get absorbed into your

1088
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: blood streaming. They stay in the gut and they make

1089
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: you poop. That's why we see products that are more

1090
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: These types of magnesium make you poop, but they don't

1091
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: help you relax and feel all good. You need the

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01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: ones that get in your body. You can't really nally magnesium.

1093
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: It's like magmaleate or magnesium glastinate, good situate oxide. You're

1094
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: gonna be pooping and not getting all the but hey,

1095
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: there might be people listening who need that and in

1096
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: that case go wild. But it's the first two that

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01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: you want to take at night, yeah, Or if you

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01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: have a problem with constipation, that could be something I

1099
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: can help take both. I'm taking that form for that relaxation.

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01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm taking that form of the bathroom, so you'd take

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01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: one of each at night or something interesting. Look at this,

1102
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: the more you know something that I would like to

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01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: talk to you about. And again, I know it's probably

1104
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: not totally normal for people to talk about their own

1105
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, medical history or whatever in public, but as

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01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: a woman, I think that this is a really important

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01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: conversation to have. One of the things we ran a

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01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: bunch of panels. You tested, I mean everything on and

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01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: in my body. And one of the things that we

1110
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: looked at was genetic testing. And I'll just try to

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01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: simply explain this for folks at home, because I can't

1112
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: show you a diag or am. But essentially, there's these

1113
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: two columns of you know, the gene to inherit from

1114
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: each parent, and you'll be able to tell me which

1115
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: one it was. I just remember what they looked like

1116
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: that both on one response both were negative. And that's

1117
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: not to say that I don't that my body doesn't

1118
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: do something, but it's that it doesn't do something well.

1119
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: And the thing my body doesn't do well is methylate.

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01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: And you're going to have to explain what first of all,

1121
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: what the genus, second of all what methylation is. But

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01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: the highlight and the reason I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: people about this is when you saw that, you said

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01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: to me, you're not on birth control, are you? And

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01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: I said, well, I'm not. I'm not taking any hormon

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01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: any hormones, if that's what you mean. And you said, good,

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01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: because this genetic marker means that you wouldn't methylate extra estrogen,

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01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: which could eventually unmethylated build up in your body and

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01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: lead to breast cancer. And I was like, holy sh it,

1130
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: because I was on the pill for over a decade

1131
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: and I didn't even know until a couple of years

1132
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: ago that there was a non hormonal birth control option.

1133
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: I actually got to help run an advocacy campaign about

1134
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: if you need hormones, here they are, and if you don't,

1135
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: there is a non hormonal option. There's a copper I

1136
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: u D that women can get if you need to

1137
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: be on birth control and your body doesn't do well

1138
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: with hormones. But I didn't even know that there could

1139
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: be a genetic issue or just an issue in the

1140
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: body where you could be taking these hormones thinking you're

1141
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: doing a good thing for yourself and actually be doing

1142
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: something bad. And I talked to I don't know, forty

1143
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: of my girlfriends about this, coworkers, women I work with, women,

1144
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: I do voting stuff with friends of mine, and nobody

1145
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: had ever heard of this. And I thought, this is

1146
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: a real disservice to women because we have the options,

1147
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: but nobody's talking to us about it, and nobody's actually

1148
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: telling us what our bodies do or don't do properly.

1149
01:04:55,120 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: So can you walk us through that particular genome gene

1150
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: I don't even know that that particular gene so that

1151
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: other women can ask their doctors for these kinds of tests.

1152
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: You know what there's women can even find out without

1153
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: going to your doctor for that test. Really, Yeah, you

1154
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: just go to twenty three and ME and do that,

1155
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: and you can you can download your raw data off

1156
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: twenty three and ME onto your computer and then you

1157
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: can upload that data to a website called genetic Genie

1158
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: genetic genie dot com and you upload it and you

1159
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: will see your method. You will upload it to the

1160
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: methylation status page and you'll it'll print out for you

1161
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: what your methylation status is and what will it be

1162
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: positive or negative. They'll show you all the genes and

1163
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: say minus minus, which means you don't have a defect

1164
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: on either gene because once from mom and once from dad.

1165
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: If it says plus minus, that means one of your

1166
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: parents gave you a defect with the plus sign plus

1167
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: signs means you have a defect. Plus minus means one

1168
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: parent gave you defect the other parent didn't. Or you

1169
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: have plus plus where both parents gave you a defective

1170
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: gene and it doesn't That gene doesn't work great, so

1171
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: like a slow gene. You will look up the CEO

1172
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: MT gene on that print out and that's the one

1173
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: we did on you. That's what I'm talking about. That's

1174
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: the one you're bringing up and when empty and what

1175
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: happens is fake estrogen from the birth control pill prem

1176
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: Those fake estrogens, by the way, made from pregnant horse

1177
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: p Did you know that I had heard they were

1178
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: an animal byproduct. I thought then some of them come

1179
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: from pigs as well, Right, I don't know about that. Oh, No,

1180
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: pigs are thyroid medication. That's what it is. I have

1181
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: a friend who doesn't have a thyroid and it takes

1182
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: medication and it's made from from pigs. So these synthetic estrogens,

1183
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: when they get broken down in the body, estrogen gets

1184
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: broken down into three pathways. One of them is breast

1185
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: cancer protective, one of them can potentially hurt the breast,

1186
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: and the third path is kind of in the middle.

1187
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: The pill and fake estrogens go down the path that

1188
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: can hurt you. Now that byproduct, if your CEO MT

1189
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: gene works, you will methylate that and it is done

1190
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: and it ain't gonna hurt you. Yeah, So we're not

1191
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: saying don't take birth control. We're just saying you need

1192
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: to know how your genes work. Work. But I don't

1193
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: want I don't want that breast cancer potential thing building

1194
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: up in you anyway like that. I don't want that

1195
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: to have. I don't I don't like the pill. I'm

1196
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: like you, I'm just not gonna go fun. Don't like it.

1197
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: It causes too many problems. Now, if you have a

1198
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: genic defect and you can't methylate that. That stuff's going

1199
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: to really build up and that's why your risk can increase.

1200
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: So we have to make sure that that gene is checked,

1201
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: make sure if it's if it's if it's messed up,

1202
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: we need to work. We're on how do we support

1203
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: the gene activity. You know, having good methhony and good

1204
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: B vitamins, don't have mercury toxicsit, you don't have oxidative stress.

1205
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: There's things you can do to support that gene if

1206
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: it's a problem. But that's why I check it. If

1207
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: you're plus plus, oh, you're getting off that pill. And

1208
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: if they're like, you know what, doctor, I'm not doing that.

1209
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm not no, no, no, no no, I'm staying on

1210
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: the pill. Then I'll I know ways that I can

1211
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: push your body towards the good path, other ways to correct.

1212
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: You say, from the pill and you're my practice, you're

1213
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: not getting off to you refuse, I'll put you on

1214
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: dim D I am. It's a it's a supplement that

1215
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: you can take that will push towards the good path

1216
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: and away from the bath. Drinking grape fruit juice here

1217
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: and there. It can block the bad path. God block seeds, berries, crucifers, exercising,

1218
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: push the good path, because I will say, you know,

1219
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: obviously from this chair, the the pill is so important

1220
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: to so many women and such a revolutionary protector of

1221
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: our ability to work, our ability to be educated, our

1222
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 1: ability to pursue higher education, our ability to family plan.

1223
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: So you know, I wouldn't want to not have those options,

1224
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: but I think it's really important to know if you're

1225
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: a woman like me or many women out there who

1226
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: don't methylate, who just have whatever the genetic makeup is.

1227
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, I don't think there's something wrong

1228
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 1: with you. I'm a very healthy person. You know. You

1229
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: said it to me yourself. We looked at my labs.

1230
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm much healthier than I thought I was, which is great.

1231
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: But to know that each of us, depending on our

1232
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: genetic makeup, are either safe from something or at risk

1233
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: of something, it was important for me to know. And

1234
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 1: then it was important for me to know that I

1235
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: had other options. But if you know, if the thing

1236
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: that my insurance covered was only me being on the pill,

1237
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: I would want to take dim and drink grape rejuice

1238
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: and make some dietary changes to make sure I could

1239
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: stay on it and not be worried about it. So

1240
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: you just gave a great example of the story of

1241
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: a woman who would be on the pill and can

1242
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 1: self advocate. I'm gonna go get my twenty three minute

1243
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: and upload my test. I'm gonna, oh my god, look

1244
01:09:58,479 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: what I have. I better do this than the other.

1245
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: But nobody's telling us this right, You're right, they're not.

1246
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 1: But now these people know, and it's like you can

1247
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: do it on your own. Thus, I'm talking about educate yourself.

1248
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: Listen to people who are medically oriented, podcasts, whatever, and

1249
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: you'll learn stuff applied in your life and you'll get

1250
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: healthier and more healthy and more healthy. When are you

1251
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: going to write a book for us? It's to do list.

1252
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: I really really am ready for your book, The three

1253
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:32,759
Speaker 1: sixty Approach to Wellness, Health, whatever word you like, I've

1254
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. It's on the to do list.

1255
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: I think I'm close. I'm still working on some things,

1256
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: but I will. What do you think? What do you

1257
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: think patients? I mean, you know we're talking about ways

1258
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: to advocate for better care and to take better care

1259
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 1: of ourselves. What do you think we can do to

1260
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: advocate for better options in the health care industry because

1261
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: doctors like you aren't covered by insurance, which is crazy

1262
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: to me because I'm like, you're doing ten times as

1263
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: much as a regular or doctor. Why wouldn't you be

1264
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: the first person the insurance company would want us to

1265
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 1: go to because we'll stay healthier. You know, how can

1266
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: we say to our our states and and our federal

1267
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: government we want this kind of care to be covered.

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Speaker 1: What are our options? That's a good point. And how

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Speaker 1: do you change the system? That's a million dollar questions?

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Speaker 1: You know, that's always my question. I'm like, damn the man,

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Speaker 1: how are we going to burn it down and rebuild

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Speaker 1: it better? So the answer is starts with the people.

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Speaker 1: Starts with the people. It always has in history and

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01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: always will be. When you and I and others start

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01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: to wake people up and they start going to their

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: docks demanding things, showing things, proofing things, whether it's scientific

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Speaker 1: or not, it's working. I'm want to do this. I

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01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: wanting to test this and want you to I'm doing this.

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Speaker 1: Docks will start to go Okay, well I'm expanding this,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing this and the other I'm going to you know,

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01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: we'll start to see more doctors change the way they

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01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: practice medicine than oh, well, we know what, we want

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01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: insurances to pay for these services because we're all doing

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Speaker 1: them out. So then they'll start paying for things. And

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Speaker 1: it just takes a long time for it to happen.

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Speaker 1: But if the people don't start the process, it's not

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Speaker 1: going to change. Well, I'm excited for everyone listening to

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Speaker 1: this to have a list they can be armed with

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Speaker 1: to go and advocate for themselves. That's good, that's really cool.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, even to go a step further back,

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Speaker 1: what do you think are some of the best questions

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Speaker 1: people can ask when it comes to even finding the

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Speaker 1: right doctor. So there are two resources that I tell

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Speaker 1: people to go to. Is the Institute for Functional Medicine

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01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 1: has a website where you can click on it and

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Speaker 1: you can log in and put your zip code find

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Speaker 1: doctors in my area see a list. There's also the

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Speaker 1: A four M dot com capital a number four than

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Speaker 1: emas and maryon dot com. American Academy of Anti Agian

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01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: Medicine they have a similar list where you can log

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Speaker 1: in and find doctors in your area. Who who you know?

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01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: They're usually conventionally trained people of course, like myself and

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01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: then they've sub specialized into this world. So that's where

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Speaker 1: I would go those two spots to find people. That's cool,

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01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: But other than that's kind of hard to walk into

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01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: your docs office and say, hey, I want you to

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01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: test me this, that, and the other. Some doctors are

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01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: cool about it, and some like what you know, no,

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Speaker 1: h but you're right. We have to try. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we have to try to be exactly stand there for

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: yourself and say, listen, I want you to check this test.

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01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's your health, it's your life. You take

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01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: control of it. Don't let someone else tell you what

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01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: to do. And I think, especially for women, there's so

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Speaker 1: many studies that have been released about how chronically doctors

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Speaker 1: ignore women's pain and women's symptoms, and and those studies,

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Speaker 1: the number is there so much worse and more compounded

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Speaker 1: for women of color. You know, you look at the

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01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: mortality rate for black mothers in America and it's atrocious.

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Speaker 1: So each of us, in our own way, has to

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01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: figure out how to be our own best advocate and

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01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: what questions to ask and what things to demand when

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Speaker 1: we are in the care of a doctor, because there

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01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: is a good chance that we could be ignored for sure,

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, and you know it's about

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01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: the person standing up for themselves. Don't be afraid. Just

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01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: because the guy has a white woman has a white

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01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: coat in front of you, doesn't mean there are any

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01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: better than you. You just need to stand up for

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01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: what you want and say what you want and believe

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01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: in what you're saying. And just be polite but firm.

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: You know you not to be rude about it. Just

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01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: be polite but firm, and show why you want to

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Speaker 1: do this test and have a conversation with them. A

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01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: lot of times they're so busy. Let's just go okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know right, I'll write I'll write the script.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. Something that I did learn. A woman who

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Speaker 1: I follow online shared a story about how she was

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01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: told by another woman that if you ask for a

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01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: test and the doctor says no, you know your your doctor,

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01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: who's your provided to you by your insurance, that you

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01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: have to ask them to mark a refusal for a

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01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: requested test in your chart. And and that I didn't

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01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 1: know that either until a couple months ago, and that

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01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: if you said, like you to document your refusal in

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01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: my chart, please, I'm gonna watch you do it. They'll

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01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: very often say Okay, give me a minute and come

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01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: back and say, you know what, We'll run the test

1349
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,600
Speaker 1: because they don't want to be on the hook for

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01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: refusing care to a patient. So there's another little tip.

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01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 1: Damn the man, but I want to be in trouble

1352
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: of some Yeah, I think it's really interesting. And one

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01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: other thing that we touched on before before we start

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01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: winding down. We we touched on the the relationship between

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01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: our mental health and our physical health, and we talked

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01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: a little bit about how trauma affects the body. There's

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01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: been this incredible shift where in society we're finally acknowledging trauma,

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01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: we're talking about mental health. The resources in the health

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01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: care community have not caught up. Mental health care is

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01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: not on the level that it should be. But at

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Speaker 1: least we're discussing these things. We're discussing these effects. Do

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Speaker 1: you have advice for patients on those subjects, you know,

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Speaker 1: for dealing with and mitigating traumatic experience. Do you think

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Speaker 1: that that's meditation. Do you think that that's reading about

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01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: trauma research and then maybe finding a therapist or a

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01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: modality to to start getting into treatment. Where where do

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Speaker 1: you tell people to begin, Well, most people come in

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01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: with me, I've already been vivid's some traumatic event. They're

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Speaker 1: already in some kind of cognit behavioral therapy or talk therapy,

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Speaker 1: which I find very slow to progress. It takes forever,

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Speaker 1: it's expensive, it's a lot of time. I'm coming and

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01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: nothing moves. So you know me, I have more about

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01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: being more dramatic in the shifts. So I'll have them

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01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: look for ways to reset the subconscious, ways to reset

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01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: that pattern with stuff you mentioned earlier, like if you

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01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 1: can find someone who does a psychedelic journey and and

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01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of it, there's like there's psychiatrists doing

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01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: that now they are, but it's all underground. Wow, But

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Speaker 1: do you think we're gonna see a big shift in that?

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01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 1: And then we're just talking about like the people talk about.

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01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: It's the data and the research and the papers like

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01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, so strong that I think and pray

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01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: and I know it psilocybin will become the next marijuana

1384
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: or will they'll start approving it for X y Z

1385
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: conditions and then we'll see it snowball into other things.

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01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 1: That's gonna happen. It's too strong, it's too powerful. So

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Speaker 1: that's that's thing. That's one way meditations the other UM,

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01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: a lot of it's a lot of self work, Like

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01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of self work. But sometimes it's

1390
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: so deep and hard and ingrained in your heart that

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01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: you have to shake it up a little bit by

1392
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:19,759
Speaker 1: something dramatic like that. So then there's this supplementation bucket,

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01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, magnesium at night and all the other things

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01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: that we were talking about. I know that the supplement

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01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 1: market is very crowded and then a lot of it's junk.

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Speaker 1: How do you recommend people begin to navigate it? And

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01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: how do people find trusted sources of of things that

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Speaker 1: are actually going to be good for their bodies and

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01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: not gimmicky exactly because you don't know what you're getting

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Speaker 1: out there. Sometimes, UM, I use nutraceutical companies. Nutraceuticals are

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01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: like pharmaceutical grade nutrients. So that's so that's all I

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01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: ever used with patients because I know it's pure, it's checked,

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01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: it's like the real deal, and you're getting what it

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01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: says on the label. So if someone wants to get supplement,

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01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,959
Speaker 1: they should check to make sure it's a neutral sutical.

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01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 1: So yeah, there are nutraceutical companies out there and you

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01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 1: can google list of them. But there's stuff like Designs

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01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: for Health here, encapsulations or FU Molecular Metagenics, microbiome Labs.

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01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 1: There's all kinds of companies that are amazing that are

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01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: because I use their stuff and you see it, yeah,

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01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: you see it get but you see you'll get better,

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01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: so you know it's working. You don't want to go

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01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: by low quality stuff. And sometimes Amazon, you're getting supplements

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01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: that you don't even know what that is, Like it

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01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: says it's this product, but it's not a little scary,

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01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,839
Speaker 1: so I don't know it's it's it's not a regulated industry,

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01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: so that's why it's a little dicey. And you know

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01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: where you're getting it from. So we'll we'll we'll put

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Speaker 1: up a couple of your resources in the stories on

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Speaker 1: this episode for listeners as well, because you don't you

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01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: don't want to spend money on something that isn't good

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01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: for you, and you don't want to get duped either.

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01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 1: But there's like half a dozen, maybe a dozen nutraceutical

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01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: companies are good life extensions another thing when it came

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01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: to mind, But you want to use that stuff because

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01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: it's good stuff. You know it works in the body. Okay,

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01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: So if you want to go into like what I

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01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 1: think someone should be taking at a minimum multi vitamin okay.

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01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: I love kirk Uman human because it's an anti inflammatory.

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01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,600
Speaker 1: It's my favorite. If you could pick one thing on

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01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: the earth, that's my favorite. Anti cancer. It's anti inflammatory,

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01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: lowers cholesterol, fights diabetes, it's antifungal, antibacterial, anti viral. It's amazing.

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01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: So Kuruman multi vitamin, vitamin D. I love products that

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01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: support the liver to help you detoxify. I love liver

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01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: g I D talx by par encapsulations for that fish

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01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 1: soil is amazing and an adapted in some type of

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01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: ashwaganda rodeola. Those are the basics that you kind of

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01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: need to kind of keep the systems going and good

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01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 1: starting point. Yeah, and is there any can you just

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01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: take all of those with breakfast? Do they have to

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01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: be taken at different times of day? There are different

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Speaker 1: types of day. Like usually most supplements you take need

1443
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: to be taken twice a day. Sometimes at once. It's

1444
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: too much and the body just eliminates the overloads. You

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01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 1: kind of wanna take half and half all in you.

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01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like you kind of said all the

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01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: different boockets asn't good way to look at it. Where

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01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: you have your it is all about what are you eating,

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01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: what are you drinking? Are you sleeping? How do you

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01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: manage stress? Are you exercising stress? Like I want to

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Speaker 1: talk one more thing about that is that's what's gonna

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01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: get us all. It's we don't handle stress? What all?

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01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: Life is so stressful? But if you think about stresses

1454
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: of perception. We talked about this earlier, like what color

1455
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 1: is stress? Go get me a bucket of it and

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01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: bring it back and show me what it looks like.

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01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: You can't do that. It's your reaction to life. It's

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01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: how you're reacting to an event or something. So one

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01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 1: of the rules I want to tell people to do

1460
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: in the office is called a one month rule, where

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Speaker 1: if you're pissed, stressed, worried, anxious about something, stop, ask yourself,

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Speaker 1: am I gonna feel like this in a month from

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01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: now about this issue or not? If you say yes,

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01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: that's legit, it's legit worry. But if you say, actually, no,

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01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going to care about that email or that

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01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 1: argument with my husband or that guy cut me off.

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01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: Might to go or or got jacked up. You're not

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Speaker 1: going to care about stuff like that, so let it go.

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01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: Why hurt your body if that stress response? So learn

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01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 1: to forget stuff. But the one month rule is something

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Speaker 1: I really teach people because they're like, oh yeah, they

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Speaker 1: come back in. I'm doing that one month thing, and

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Speaker 1: it's really helping me not stress out. You know, meditate

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Speaker 1: every day, take breaks every day. So those are the pillars.

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Speaker 1: I think diet, exercise, sleep, stress response supplements, com meditation

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Speaker 1: and spirituality work on you, m hm, and give yourself

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Speaker 1: a break. This is a this is habit creation. This

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Speaker 1: does take work. It's not going to change overnight. But

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Speaker 1: when you think about that one month roll, I think

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Speaker 1: if if we all committed to a ten minute meditation

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Speaker 1: in the morning and a handful of supplements, I bet

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Speaker 1: in thirty days we'd feel different. By far meditation is

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Speaker 1: the bomb that makes me feel very hopeful. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: So I ask everybody who comes here. The title of

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Speaker 1: the podcast is called work in progress, And when you

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Speaker 1: hear that, what comes to mind as a work in

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Speaker 1: progress in your life? Myself, I think we're all working progress,

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Speaker 1: all of us. That you leave this earth, you gotta

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Speaker 1: keep working on yourself in a mind, body, spirit way.

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Speaker 1: But to me, it's more the mind and spirituality part.

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Speaker 1: That's my work in progress right now, and so I

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Speaker 1: think that's where I'm going with that is going to

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Speaker 1: take me to another level and healing people and helping people.

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Speaker 1: That's that's my what I feel, let my heart and gut.

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Speaker 1: That's so sciting. We're excited to be along for the ride,

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Speaker 1: do it. Thanks for coming. Welcome. This show is executive

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Speaker 1: produced by Me, Sophia Bush, and sim Sarna. Our supervising

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Speaker 1: producer is Alison Bresnick. Our associate producer is Kate Linley.

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Speaker 1: Our editors are Josh Wendish and Matt Sasaki, and our

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Speaker 1: music was written by Jack Garrett and produced by Mark Foster.

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