WEBVTT - Hour 3 - David Cone, NBA Rumors 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.559 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.000 Sports Radio Final Hour. 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:08.719 In this Thursday, Dan and the Dan That's Dan Patrick Show, 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:13.280 come on in stay awhile, talk some football last hour, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.720 talk some baseball this hour. David Cohne, five time World 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:20.520 Series champ, and he's an analyst for the Yankees. After 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:24.360 the no hitter last night by the Yankees Domingo Herman, 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.360 a perfect game against the Oakland A's whole question for 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.800 the final hour is going to be what seat O'Connor. 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.960 By the way, we got a source telling us that 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:38.320 Victor Wan Bayama's official height without shoes on is seven 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.800 foot three and a half. Don't know if you were 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:44.360 waiting for that, but I would round up. I'd round 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.159 up to seven to four. I'm more interested in how 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.640 much he weighs, not how tall he is. All right, Seaton, 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:50.240 Final Hour? 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:50.680 What do we have? 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.560 Well, we've got still from the first hour. Perfect game 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:54.760 is more skill or luck? 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:55.120 Right now? 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.040 It's sixty four percent saying luck? 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.040 Okay, which is really interesting. 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.560 Well, I asked David Cohne, because he threw a perfect game, 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.840 how much is luck and how much is skill? 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:05.680 It feels like it's exactly backwards. It's got to be 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.039 at least seventy percent skill and it's some luck. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.959 I would say, it's well, you know what, I'm not 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:12.679 going to give my number yet. I'm going to bring 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.520 in David Cone ask him since he threw a perfect game. David, 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:17.760 thanks for joining us. If we were going to go 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:22.200 the percentage of skill and luck and throw throwing a 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.039 perfect game, what would you say that percentage would be? 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:31.279 Well, it's an interesting point because not every pitch thrown 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:33.920 in a perfect game is a perfect pitch. So when 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.680 you do make a mistake, the hitters have to cooperate 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.040 right and miss it or pop it up, and certainly 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.600 there were a few of those last night for Domingo Herman. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.160 But I will say this, there's much more stress in 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.600 a perfect game. Every time you get to three ball count, 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.040 you know you can blow it with a walk, whereas 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:50.840 you know if you walk somebody in a no hitter, 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:52.840 you still have the no hitter. So we've seen no 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.960 hitters thrown with four, five, six, seven, eight walks sometimes, 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.920 but that's different in a perfect game, much more pressure, so, 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:01.760 I would say, and the skills more important in a 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.400 perfect game because of the pressure than a no hitter 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.280 where you have margin for air if you walk a guy. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.639 I'm wondering more pressure is felt by the picture in 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.680 a perfect game or his teammates in a perfect game. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.560 That's a great question, Dan. I know. I watched David 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.240 Wells throw his perfect game the year before mine. We 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:22.200 went back to back years, nineteen ninety eight, nineteen ninety nine, 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.880 and I was a wreck watching his perfect game at 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.280 the dugout. I mean, I was just a nervous wreck. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.120 When you're actually participating, when you're the picture in a 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.399 perfect game, you are just desperate to maintain your focus. 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:39.639 Nobody wants to talk to you. Your anxiety ridden when 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.920 you're the picture in that game. So maintaining your emotions 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.560 is a full time job. Whereas actually watching it you 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.920 allow all those negative thoughts to creep into your mind. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.240 You know, what if he blows it, what if something happens? 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:52.799 You know, you have more time to think if you're 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:53.720 actually watching. 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.800 It as a picture. When you take the mound? Is 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:58.840 your goal to throw a perfect game every time you 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.080 take the mount? I mean to have that mindset when 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:01.800 you go out there. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.880 Well, yeah, I think your goal is to win every 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.600 pitch Your goal is to not walk anybody. Your goal 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.840 is to consistently get ahead in the count to maintain 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:13.080 count leverage. So yeah, in that sense, I guess you know, 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.720 you certainly want to win every bat. You want to 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:17.880 get everybody out that you can, and then when you 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.639 do give up hits, you you know, you kind of 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:21.920 brush it off because that's to be expected. But yeah, 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.919 your mentality is sort of going in strike one, I'm 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:26.400 going to get this guy out. I'm going to get 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.239 ahead of him and then get him out and stay 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:29.840 on top of stay on top of the hitters all 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:30.280 day long. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.720 What do you remember about your perfect game? It came 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.800 against the Montreal Expos. Who was in the lineup that 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.240 day that you worried about. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.000 Well, Vladimir Guerrero was in that lineup. A Hall of 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.360 Famer Jose Vidro, a really good player and All Star 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:44.920 second baseman, was in that lineup. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:46.800 So those guys, those. 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.480 Two really worried me more than anything. And Vladimir Guerrero 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.640 presented an interesting problem because he could hit everything. He 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.240 was the best bad ball hitter since Yogi Berra you know, 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.960 Yoga get hit everything over his head, you know, almost 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.360 one hop it we saw Vladimir Garrera, I'll get a 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.840 hit when the ball actually bounced one time. So no 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:04.880 matter what, you know, which pitch I threw. He was 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:06.760 the guy I worried about because he could hit anything. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.720 Did you use stick him stuff or sticky stuff back then? 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:12.400 Not a lot. 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.280 Really. Occasionally, on a cool night, I would grab the 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.520 rosin bag that was in the batter's box circle because 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.440 it had a little pine tar on it. So yeah, 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.120 I mean, I guess you could say, yeah, I did 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.400 at times use a little bit of pine tar with 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.000 rosin mixed on a cold night, but we didn't realize 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:30.960 how much it could help your spin rate. We didn't 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.080 know anything about spin rates back then, or if we did, 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.680 we didn't know how to measure them. So certainly I 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.720 was worried about blisters too. If you use too much 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:39.720 stick them, is that going to rip the pads off 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.720 my fingers? I was more worried about, you know, worried 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.840 about messing up my fingertips and getting blisters than anything 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:46.839 else with sticky stuff. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.279 I'm wondering why baseball doesn't come out with their own 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.760 products that these are the only products you can use, 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.520 and that's it. This is going to be approved by hitters, 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.440 this will be approved by pitchers, and anything after that 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.479 going to face a really long suspension. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:03.479 Yeah. 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.039 I think Major League Baseball feels like they kind of 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.280 have done that with just the Rosin bags that are 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.480 on the mound itself, and that's what they're policing this year. 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.600 You can't have your own Rosin bag in your locker. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.120 You can only use the one on the mound. You 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.600 can't weaponize the Rosin if it gets too sticky, We're 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.839 going to bang you for that too. The problem with 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.640 Major League Baseball is they're obsessed with strikeout rates. The 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.719 strikeout rates are so high in the game today that 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.799 if they present a new product or a sticky baseball 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.520 like the one they have in Japan, a pre treated baseball, 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:33.600 that the pitchers are going to take advantage of that 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.880 and increase the strikeout rates. So I think that's why 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.839 Major League Baseball was reluctant to do exactly what you said, 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.920 Dan and sort of come up with a universal product 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.840 that works. They're worried about pitchers weaponizing whatever they introduce 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.320 into the game and increasing the strikeout rates. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:47.560 Yeah. 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.359 I'm wondering about that because there's no shame in striking 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.120 out anymore. You know, it's not a big deal. 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:53.640 It used to be. 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.640 It was like, you know, hitters would hang their heads 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.120 as they walk back to the dugout. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:05:59.840 When did it change that. 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.480 It's not an embarrassment to strike out one hundred and 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:03.560 fifty times. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.120 Yeah, it's sort of a perfect storm of things, you know. 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.240 I think the underrated facet is the strike zone itself. 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.920 Back in the nineties and eighties, it was more of 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.040 an east and west strike zone, and if you threw 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.360 a pitch right down the middle and the catcher caught 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.200 it at his mask, that was an automatic ball, much 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.440 less high curve balls that were up that way that 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.080 are called strikes nowadays. So it's more of a north 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.160 and south strike zone. We don't get those pitches off 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.159 the edges like we used to. I mean, Greg Maddox 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.360 and John Smoltz and Tom Glavin and myself, we all 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.600 lived off the edge of high high off the outside corner, 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.640 that was where the margin was. We got pitches called 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.600 off the plate strikes, but we never got the high 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.880 strike called. So that's the difference. The power pitchers are 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.640 throwing harder than ever before. The strike zone is higher 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.240 than it's ever been before. Really, you have to go 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.960 back to Jim Palmer, back with the outside chess protectors, 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.560 remember the bubble chess protectors, lee wire, those old umpires. 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.800 That was a higher strike zone. Back then, in the 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:01.520 sixties and seventies, the pitchers didn't throw as hard as 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.640 they do nowadays. So every reliever throws ninety five miles 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.640 an hour, plus a lot of them one hundred miles 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:08.960 an hour. That coupled with a high strike zone, has 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.880 led to a higher strikeout rate along with hitters trying 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.520 to drive the ball. The power is premium power. Hitting 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.760 power pitching equals more strikeouts. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:21.320 I'm talking to David Cohne, the Yes Yankee analyst joining 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.320 us on the program. You were a Yankee, you were 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.440 a Met, if you were a Met fan, can you 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.320 can you say let's be patient? 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:28.920 If you know? 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.560 Steve Cohen said, Hey, I'm not going to act like 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:33.840 you want me to. I'm not firing anybody. We're not 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:37.280 doing anything crazy here. How do you preach patients with 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.920 a team that's got a payroll as large as the Mets? 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:42.360 Really hard to do right now. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.760 They're you know, the Atlanta Braves are a juggernaut running 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.760 away with the East. You're eight and a half games 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.840 out of the final wildcard spot if you're the Mets 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.679 right now. So if you're looking at the very final 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.720 wildcard spot, like the Philadelphia Phillies did last year and 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.120 rode all the way to the World Series. They won 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.560 eighty six games and still got to the World Series, 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.560 that's a long shot for the Mets right now. They have, 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:08.280 according to betting nods or predictive odds, that are out there, 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:12.080 like less than a five percent chance right now just 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.560 to make the playoffs. So that is in and of 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.880 itself daunting. They really need to look at this trade 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.000 deadline as sort of reconfiguring their roster, in my opinion, 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:26.000 sort of what pieces don't fit together, what pieces are 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.040 kind of aging. They have some pretty good young players 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.160 that have come up and helped, whether it's Brett Beady 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.679 at third base or Alvarez at the catching position. They 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.199 have a couple of others that are on the way 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.800 as well. That's the future for them. They sort of 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.160 need to reconfigure their roster. They probably need to look 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.000 for trade partners. I wouldn't be surprised to see even 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.200 the Yankees and the Mets hook up in this trade 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:50.200 deadline because Billy Eppler used to work for Brian Cashman. 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.959 Steve Cohen, the owner of the Mets, doesn't care where 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:56.200 the trades come from. He doesn't have this sort of mentality, 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.680 this anti Yankee mentality. He's a businessman. So the days 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.800 of the zoning the Mets and not trading with the 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.040 Yankees are kind of over in my mind. So there 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.319 could be a match there. If the Yankees need an outfielder, 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.080 do they match up with somebody like a Starley Marte 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.600 or something like that. You know, I think those are 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.320 the type of the deals, the type of deals the 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.079 Mets need to look for at this trade line. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.280 I'm wondering if fifteen years from now we look back 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:22.000 on show Hey Otani and what he kind of birthed, 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.640 that you will have these two way players that you know, 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:29.040 in high school, your shortstop is your pitcher and usually 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:30.640 batting third in the lineup there. 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:32.000 And I don't know if you were. 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.400 Like that, but it feels like these guys grow up 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.960 being hitters and being pitchers. Are we going to have 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.920 not a wave, but at least a few of these 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:43.840 two way players in Major League baseball. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.120 It's a great question, Dan, I think yes. I think 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:52.280 sho heey Otani is inspirational in that regard. He's a trailblazer. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.360 He's showing the way. And there's certainly we saw kids 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.040 in the College World Series this year there are two 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.000 way players that are throwing the ball in the upper nineties, 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.760 you know, the left hand for Florida that started that 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.160 final game as one of those kids as well. So yes, 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.680 my answer is, yes, we're going to see kids that 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.800 try to do it, organizations that will bring them along 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.040 in the minor leagues and kind of experiment with it 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.880 and allow them to explore whether they can handle both 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.000 or not. But why not you know, show hey Otani's 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:23.839 the MVP because he plays such an important role on 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.880 their team on both sides of the ball. So why 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.199 wouldn't you want that? Why wouldn't you want that double 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.760 value if you can develop that neuron system. 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.840 Should he get two salaries? Interesting? 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.760 Well, you know what he should get is probably equity 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.920 in the team that signs him. You know, at this point, 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:40.840 I mean, if you're trying to sign show Hey Otani 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.640 and you're you're the Anaheim Angels, you know, how do 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:44.480 you entice him. 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.120 Well, what would you do with the trade deadline if 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:52.400 if they haven't agreed to anything contract extension. Not much 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.080 has been made public here, but at some point the 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.760 Angels have to have something in return if show Hey 0:10:58.080 --> 0:10:59.040 doesn't want to stay. 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:04.080 Yes, I believe that they need him to stay so 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.560 badly that they need to hold onto him and hope 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.960 they get into the playoffs and hope he becomes a 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.240 postseason hero for them at least get them in a 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:14.040 position to win a wild card spot in the West, 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.520 which they currently are very much in the running for. 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.280 So yes, you let that play out, because your best 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.120 chance to sign show Hey Otani back is a long 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.719 and deep postseason run with him in my trout, that 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.800 kind of shows him, Hey, you should stay right here. 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.160 We're on the right we're on the right move here, 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.960 we're moving in the right direction. So you know, with 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.280 that being said, there might be a blockbuster trade out there, Dan, 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.160 You're right, I mean you have to listen. You have 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.920 to listen. If there's a blockbuster trade where you can 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.920 really get an incredible value back, then you have to 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.800 consider it. But I still believe they want to keep him, 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:48.760 and the best way to keep him is to get 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.480 the postseason and show him what it's like to have 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:52.880 postseason ball at the. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.199 Big A great to talk to you as always, David, 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:56.079 thanks for joining us. 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:57.360 My pleasure Dan. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:58.920 Anytime it's David Cohne. 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.160 Five time Worlds. There's Champion. He's an analyst for the Yankees, 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.360 Yes Network. He threw his perfect game at Yankee Stadium 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:09.960 against the Exposing back in nineteen ninety nine. Ellen in 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.760 Wisconsin leads us off this hour. Good morning, Ellen, what's 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:13.280 on your mind? 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:18.280 I just wanted to say what a great topic. Baseball 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:23.040 gets a bad rind, you know, but the mental toughness 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:28.120 and concentration that it requires is often overlooked. I'm a 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.680 bigger sports fan than my husband. I raised my kids 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.959 telling him. Everything you need to learn about life, you 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:39.480 learn in baseball. Sometimes you have to sacrifice for the team. 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.600 You know, the shortstop might hate the second basement, but 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.160 they still have to work together to turn a double play. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:50.000 And even when greatness happens, you know, when a pitcher 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.760 throws a no hitter, he turns around and banks his fielders. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.040 So that's all I got. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.600 All right, Well, thank you Ellen, Thank you Ellen. 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:04.320 Yeah, you earn life through Baseball Jeremy in Indianapolish Jeremy. 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:09.880 Hey, damn, how's it going great? Awesome? Hey, I just 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.120 was listening to the podcast from me yesterday's so and 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.520 you guys were talking about show Hey Athani, and with 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.720 the trade deadline coming up, I was just kind of thinking, 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.360 would it incentivize the Angels to try to convince him 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.760 to just focus on hitting. I mean, I would think 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.400 he could make a run at seventy three at Barry 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.920 Bonds and that would be well worth paying him, you know, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:36.760 the six hundred million dollar contract. 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:41.120 Well, he's focused on hitting and he's focused on pitching. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.360 And if I'm the Angels, I want show Hey to 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.760 do what he wants to do. It's not like he's 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.640 missing batting practice. Therefore he's not putting in the time 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.240 when he goes to the plate, and judging from those 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.920 home runs, he's done pretty well. I wouldn't mess with 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:57.640 anything here. 0:13:58.520 --> 0:13:59.600 I went back. 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.160 I go back to what I said yesterday. You know, 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.200 we have this species known as pitchers, and we treat 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.760 them differently than any other athlete and any other sports. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.880 Like, oh my god, did you get your your long 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.720 toss in today? Did you get your stretching. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.960 In today, and when you think about it, sho, Hey, 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:21.480 Utani is showing that, hey, I can still do this. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.240 You know, I can have a regular day. His day 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.560 job is a hitter. His weekend job is a pitcher. 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.920 So one one day out of the week, I got 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:34.440 to concentrate on pitching. The other days, I just I'm 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.440 a baseball player. You know, you go through the routine. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.600 You know it's going to be infield practice, there's going 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.280 to be batting practice. They'll be stretching, running, you know 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:48.320 all those things. But for the most part, you should 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.560 be able to do both. If you're really good at 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.120 a high level, you're a great pitcher and a great hitter, 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:56.280 then why do you have to choose? 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:57.880 If you're able to do it. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.560 Plus, he could be changing the dynamic of the sport, 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.960 because trust me, most of your great pitchers are also 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.920 shortstops growing up and batting third in the lineup. 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.840 They grew up being a hitter. Nobody grows up to say, hey, 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.120 I just want to pitch. I don't want to hit. 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.960 You grow up you want to hit, and you're gonna 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.000 have the best arm. You're the shortstop and you're going 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:26.160 to be the pitcher. Shohyutani is proving that you can 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.440 do both and do both at a very high level. 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.960 How many players can do that? I think in fifteen 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.240 years from now, we'll look back on this moment and 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.240 we'll say, wow, look at the number of players. You 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.240 might have a second baseman who's a middle relief pitcher 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.760 or capable of doing that. Bring him in for an 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:48.440 inning maybe. And pitchers are only going five innings for 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.880 the most part. That's a quality start. You're not asking 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.520 them to go nine, go five, maybe go six. 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.080 Oh my god, he won six. How many pitches? You 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.560 could still be a hit hitter, every day hitter, and 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:02.520 you could be a pitcher. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.560 And what it does, you know, the excitement that it 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.960 brings when you go out, always going to pitch and hit. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:10.400 It's pretty cool. 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.400 Let's take a break, get some more phone calls coming 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:20.040 up back after this. Sleep Number. Every great day starts 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:24.080 the night before, sure does thank you, Todd, trouble falling asleep, 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.560 and maybe you sleep two hot or too cold. Your 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:30.120 partner's stores, like Seatan's wife, they have thought of everything 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:34.480 at Sleep Number. These smart beds they learn how you sleep, 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.840 and then you get to learn how to sleep better 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:41.160 and you feel more alert. 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Be 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.879 sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:30.240 noon eastern sixty nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.680 you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:40.520 or stream us live on the Peacock appre Mare going 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.560 to have the actor Adam Divine on the program tomorrow 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.760 he's in the Gemstones, isn't he sure is? 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:48.200 Yeah? 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.399 Thank you, Todd, and uh I believe Will Ferrell was 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.679 calling in to let us know if he's going to join. 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:55.159 Us in Dublin. 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.399 That's a very funny show right there. Yes, yes, it 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.800 is very funny guys, Yes, Adam. 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:05.000 Divine it has a funny face. Or I'm trying to 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.439 figure out how to phrase this, like he's not funny looking, 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:12.280 but when you see him you laugh, like he just 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.280 he's a scene stealer. Yes, So can you say, is 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.879 it a compliment to say you got a funny face? 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.760 Hmm, yes, Tod. 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.479 I think a better way to pose it is, you know, 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.840 when you look at you like you're anticipating something funny, 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:27.600 it's gonna come out of his mouth. You're like ready 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:28.439 to lay h But that. 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.040 That doesn't like just slip off the tongue here. I'm 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:32.080 trying to but it's better. 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:33.520 Than someone saying that what is saying I got a 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:37.400 funny face? I'm funny looking? What does that mean? Even 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.159