WEBVTT - Karen's DUI, RHONJ 2026 return + RHOC Clique 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:05.440 Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos Kings, the. 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:07.680 King of Reality TV and one of. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:12.080 The most sought after executive producers in reality television with 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:16.160 over ten years a production experience. Twice a week from 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.880 Reality with the King, we'll sit down with my friends 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:23.360 across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:32.000 revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:35.240 Hey, rain drops. 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.640 On today's episode of Reality with the King, the girls 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:41.560 are back, Honey and the worth of ru Paul bring 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.760 back my girls. And no, I'm not talking about the 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.000 queens on Drag Race. I'm talking about the queens on 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.199 the podcast Baby. Yes, they came to my show a 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:53.640 few weeks ago, and Honey, the comments were commenting. Everyone 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.960 talked about what a great collaboration it was, and look, 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:58.440 I love these girls. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:00:59.760 They are so hilarious. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.680 Okay, if you guys like them or not, I don't 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.920 give a ship because I do, and that's all that matters. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.640 But give it up on my love from being All 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:12.000 about the Real Housewives podcast Rock Sand and Shanttan. 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:17.520 Hey, Hi, Carlos, Carlos, I'm digging your beard. I know 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.360 we have to You guys can't see it, but I 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:22.520 am loving the beard. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.800 Thank you, honey. Just call me the Black Sans. 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.400 I I I give gifts. 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.240 We're so happy to be here and this is a 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:35.720 gift to be on your podcast. 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.360 Thank you cha tell listen, everybody had a lot to 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.800 say with you two appeared on my podcast a few 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.040 weeks ago, but it was overwhelmingly positive about sexing. 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.200 I know, we got we got so many people, yeah, 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.520 reaching out to us and they were like, we love 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.120 the connection that you guys have with Carlos King. Like 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.080 they're like, you guys are so aligned and you guys 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.440 just buy really well. And I was like, yeah, we're 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.160 all from Michigan. We're all from Detroit, Like of course we. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:09.120 Did, honey, Midwest of bell Yes, look I am somebody 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.119 who do what the fuck I want to do. Let's 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.280 say that and listen. I love you girls, and I'm 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:18.359 so happy we get to have a day of hot topic. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:22.200 So we have to talk about the breaking news that 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:27.680 made me tear up a little bit. Andy Cohen recently 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:31.400 revealed that The Real Housewives of New Jersey is not 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:36.079 returning until the year twenty twenty six, and I'm like. 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:37.560 Excuse me. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:43.760 That was I like, like, what, girls, I am not 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:48.359 okay with this news. I need my girls back. What 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.280 is going on in Jersey? What intel do you ladies have? 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:52.800 And I'll tell you my insight as well. 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.919 Well. I actually wanted to ask you what didn't they 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.320 do this with Atlanta? They did? They did the exact 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.880 same thing. We're Candy was like I'm done waiting, and 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:03.040 Candy basically quit. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:03.880 Yeah. 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.240 So even Atlanta is one of the top rated they 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:11.040 did the same thing, So I mean, I guess it's 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:12.720 and look what they did was vander Pump rules, So 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:13.880 I don't It wasn't very shocked. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.720 I was shocked because they andyicupped saying you're not gonna 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:17.440 know until January. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:18.680 You're not gonna know until January. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:19.959 And then all of a sudden he droves because like 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.920 everyone does, keep asking him because everyone wants to know, 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.000 and then he came back and was like, you guys 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:26.920 are not getting it until next year, and everyone like 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.600 freaked that out, which like it's crazy. 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.680 To put these girls on such a long way. 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's crazy. So what this is 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:40.320 what's so interesting? Rock saying you are correct, Atlanta Housewives 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:44.839 suffered through a waiting period, right yeah, and because of that, 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.680 Candy Burris did say that she got tired of waiting 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.480 and she took the opportunities and ultimately. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:53.640 She quit the show. So she did quit the show. 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.920 She was asked back, she decided to say no because 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:03.080 during that waiting period she had at obligations to do 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.000 other stuff and that's what she's doing as we speak. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:12.800 So Atlanta Housewives is not coming back until twenty twenty. 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.200 Five, right, yeah, it's at the end. 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.719 So we don't know what month is coming back. We're 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.760 hearing March, that's what we're hearing. But again, we just 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.719 don't know. They did reveal a clip during the Miami 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:29.880 version of Bravo Khne with Porsche visiting her divorce attorney, 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.600 So look, we don't know what's going to happen when 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.400 it comes to Atlanta, meaning what month is going to premiere. 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.960 But you're right, it did take a long pause. I 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:40.320 am hearing great things. 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:40.640 About it though. 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.000 They have four new girls, Shmia being one of them, 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.640 Porscha's back, Cynthia's a friend of Kenya is there for 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.960 half a season, and Faith comes back two weeks before 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.400 they filming and she gets a hold to Peach. So 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.440 it's a lot of surprises there, right, so we forget 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.680 to see if it was worth the way I'm hearing 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:01.640 it is, so I can't wait for us to see it. 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:07.880 Now Jersey is significantly different, because let's let's let's have 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:14.039 a real conversation. The biggest choice they have to make 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:19.360 is who do they keep between Teresa and Melissa. 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.359 And this is no Shaye to Margaret, this is no 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.440 shade to Jennifer Aiden or Dolores. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:30.320 Right, this big pause has one hundred percent to do 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:37.839 with Teresa or Melissa. Now, with that being said, and 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:42.120 let's be real here, what do you think ultimately is 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.719 going to happen? If you guys were flies on the 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.880 wall in the decision making, I. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.280 Think that they're going to bring I just can't see 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.320 a world where they would bring Melissa over Teresa back 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.960 unless Teresa had to spin off so on less TERSA 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.880 and I still don't even think they'll bring Melissa back. 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.880 I think that they're gonna end up bringing their You know, 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.359 Dolores has been really out there, so I think obviously 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.160 we all know they're going to bring her, And I 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.040 do think they're going to bring Margaret back, even though 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:13.000 Margaret has really nothing going at least, I guess that's 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.960 what I prefer. I prefer Margaret to come back over 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:20.520 Melissa any day. But you know, they tried the Melissa 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.599 stuff this season where she's not really talking about Teresa, 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.120 but she still did, and then they tried bringing her 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.679 family into it, and it didn't click. It didn't vibe. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.560 You know, Melissa's out here trying to be an influencer, 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.640 and I feel like she can do well with that, 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.000 so like she can live that influencer era. She's reminding me, 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.480 like very much of like the Kim Kardashian thing, what 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.520 Kim Kardashian does and stuff, So I feel like she's 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.359 good doing that. You know, she's very social media heavy 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.279 and stuff. But I just can't see them ever bringing 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.440 her back. I think they just want things to settle 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:57.039 down and go from there and who knows, you know what. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:58.960 I feel like, there's a lot of great people in 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:02.839 Jersey that would be amaz like Italians would be amazing 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.599 for reality TV. So if you know, we did a 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.800 revamp in New York and it didn't work. But I 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:09.960 feel like if they did something like that in New 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.800 Jersey and it was like people who were already friends 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.679 and connected, it might work. I agree. 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.880 I think I also have to do with who they're 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.840 going to bring in New so, like I think that 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.080 that was a factor. It's like, is this person gonna 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.400 vibe with the Teresa or they're gonna vibe with the Melissa's. 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:30.600 Like I think that's what also they're gonna take in consideration. Yeah, 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.880 they've been interviewing people, Like we know a lot of 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.960 people that they've interviewed, so they they've been doing that. 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:37.920 So obviously, like at least the one thing is like, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.720 we know the show is coming back, but it is 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.800 going to be very interesting to see what they do. 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:45.560 Yeah, so that's the thing. 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:52.200 I just don't see a world where a woman who 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.480 has been the face of the show since season one, 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:55.840 not like season three. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:57.200 I'll give you a good example. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:02.840 P Porsia came on season five, right, and arguably she 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:07.520 has immersed herself to be a force multiplier on Atlanta housewise, 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.200 and she's young and she brought a very young audience 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.800 along with her and she made her mark. So it 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.280 makes sense to make Porsche of the face of a 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:23.640 rebooted Atlanta housewise, when let's be real, Herenni Leeks will 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.800 remain the face of the franchise, right But if we're 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.440 talking about a rebooted version, it does make sense for 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:34.120 Portia to do it because she's done significant iconic thing 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.360 since she's been on the show, and she is very 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.920 youthful and fresh. So when you bring on youthful and 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.280 fresh women, it makes sense that they'll be around Portsche 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.920 being the captain of this ship, right the thing. But 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:53.880 Teresa is this Teresa's relevance has never dissipated, and I 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.000 think that's the difference when you think about her and 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.720 the other ogs who's coming gone, Teresa is still very 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.800 much relevant. Teresa is still very much has so much 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:04.800 personal story. 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:06.679 I think at the end of the day, whether or 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:06.959 not you. 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:11.800 Like Louie, you can't negate the fact that there's an 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.920 interesting story there when it comes to them that I 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.440 worked for Bravo before producing all of these shows and 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.920 seasons of it, that you don't want to miss any 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:29.720 sort of story that's going to materialize with Teresa and 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:33.559 Louie and the children. It's just something is always there. 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.360 And Teresa is like Christmas Morning, She is the gift 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.839 that keeps on giving without even trying hard. And look, 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.320 I agree with you by Melissa. I've said this once. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:48.360 I'll say before. Melissa's beautiful. She's a very beautiful woman, okay, 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.520 and you cannot take that away from her. She's a 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.400 great mom. Her kids are very mannerable, they they're sweet. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.240 She's a great mom. When it comes to being the 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:05.120 face of a friend, I think she can't pull that 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:06.959 job off, right, you. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:08.360 Know what I mean? And and and. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.079 This is no disrespect to Melissa, and I'll i'll and 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.840 I'll say this and I said it to Teresa. Melissa 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.440 was once great for the show and you can't deny 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.400 what she brought to the show courtesy of the interaction 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:25.120 she had with Teresa. However, it doesn't mean she can 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:26.080 carry a show. 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.120 I just don't believe it. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:32.280 She's young, she's beautiful, and like you said, Rock Sande, 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.640 she is sort of like this Bethany Franco influencer at 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:36.120 this point. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:48.000 Right, Yeah, that was nice to you, Carlos Kan I'm 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:54.000 just saying, how okay, girl, what Kim Kardashian, What I'm 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.920 saying is like Kim Kardashian is you know, I don't 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.120 know how old. She's like, you know, mid forties, and 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.400 she's still like really wants to be and and and 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.680 she looks amazing. And I don't think, you know whatever, 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.080 she looks amazing, but she just really wants to still 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.600 be out there. She hasn't changed her brand at all. 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.040 So that's like what I mean when I'm saying Kim Kardashian, 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.600 it's like they really, you know, I don't know, they're 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:20.440 stuck in that influenced era. But in a in a 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.119 way that's not I think you're thinking. 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.240 Of her like watch what Happens Live out But recently 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.480 it was very Kim k like ty here thinking almost 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:29.160 at her nipple. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:34.080 So that's fine, I don't know. 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:39.040 Yeah, yeah, so so that's my thing. Now I'm gagging girls. 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:44.400 So you girls think that there's a possibility Mark, Yeah, 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:45.560 we'll be asked back. 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.600 Oh shit, tell me, tell me why? And what what? What? 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.320 What info? Do you have? Girls that I don't Well. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.559 No, I just think because with it, I think Margaret 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.960 shitting her pants because this is everything to her. She 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.600 wants to come back. She hasn't been, as you know, 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.319 bad on social media. She's a type who does see 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.680 everything but she's kind of smart about it. She has 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.280 brought along storylines. I mean, she's been very dirty and 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.280 vicious about it. But I do think she is someone 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:14.280 who can maybe take accountability, whereas in with Melissa, Melissa's 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:18.640 never taken accountability for anything, so and people like to say, well, 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.720 Teresa hasn't. If you rewatch season three, four and five, 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.240 Teresa's saying sorry at least one hundred times, So that's 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.080 taking accountability, where like, you know, if I did that, 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.240 I'm sorry, That's that's what taking accountability is. So I 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.600 just feel like, you know, with Atlanta, they're bringing back 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.440 some faces and then they're bringing some new people and 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.240 it actually looks like it's gonna be the biggest hit 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.200 in a long time. So I feel like they're going 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.520 to keep some people. And if they're going to keep 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.679 some people, if it's Margaret and Melissa, I do think 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.640 they're gonna end up choosing Margaret because Margaret will end 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.360 up being able to make peace or you know, even 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.200 though like her and Teresa hate each other, I can 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.920 see them moving on as long as Melissa's not there. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.199 And I think like if they Melissa back, but Teresa, 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:02.840 it's like what was the whole point of the pause, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:04.960 Like it would make no sense for it, you know, like, 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:06.079 what were we doing. 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:06.520 This whole time? 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.280 If she's if they came back, it'd be the same 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.040 show and the same thing that you just saw like 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.480 last season. So it would be silly for them to 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.480 bring both of them back. And I do think they 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.560 would bring Margaret Margaret back over. 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.040 You know, I was gonna say, how about when Andy 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.520 told or most said to Andy, you're making people Why 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.800 are you making people way about the show? And He's like, 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:29.680 I mean, it took you fifteen years to do the 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:30.600 springs Hilt. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.439 Listen, listen, listen. 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.880 Andy Cohen is iconic because at the end of the day, 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.880 he's not only smart and a great businessman, he also 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.560 is shady and I love it about him. That was 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:50.600 a fun read, and let's just transition into that. Yeah, 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.720 I don't get it. I don't listen. I try my 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:55.960 best to make sure that I don't come across as 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.240 Melissa hater like you girls, because at the end of 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.960 the day, Teresa's my sister her and she's I know, 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.720 cool with you guys, and people think I'm a. 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.920 I wish we were paid. Well, don't you hate when 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.320 people when you have a different opinion than someone, they 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.480 then say, oh, you must be getting paid. It's like, no, 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:15.600 I just watched the show. 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:20.360 Yeah, I watched the show like you do, and I 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.000 have an opinion and it's okay. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.080 But I digress. 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.000 I try my best to find the great things my 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.080 Melissa once I said it before, she's beautiful, she's a 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.600 great mom, and at one point she was a great housewife. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.600 The Sprinkle Cookies bothers me for this reason alone. You 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:41.320 complain about Teresa, you said she's dead to you. You 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:45.920 claim that you aren't in her shadows, that you're not 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.080 always a part of her storyline, and you do the 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:53.520 very thing that made you interesting when you first got 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:58.040 on the show because of what Teresa said. And and 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:02.880 for me, it's like, I don't understand why you waited 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:08.400 fifteen years to come out with a line of sprinkle cookies. 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.200 And listen, I'm not saying they're not delicious. I'm pretty 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.600 sure they are. Bethany Franco said, is good. A lot 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.760 of people she sent it to said is good. 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.040 Melissa. I'm going on my care package. 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.240 I will send it through TSA first, just to make sure. 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:22.800 It's not poisonous. I'm kidding. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.040 But Melissa said, if your care package, I'll talk about 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:31.240 it my podcast. But but I think for me it's this. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.360 If I was on Melissa's team, I would say, if 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.560 you're trying to prove to the world that you don't 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:45.120 need any sort of attachment to Teresa, then let's not 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.920 do it. Will you make money, sure, will you sell out, absolutely, 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.520 But let's think of the long game here. Let's think 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.480 of five years from now, do you know what I mean? 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:57.640 And I feel like Melissa is always doing something to 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.800 extend her fifteen minutes of fame. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:01.760 I think these sprinkle cookies are this. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.920 Sucks the point because it's like and like and how 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.320 far are you going to get with just sprinkle cookies. 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.440 It's not brand, it's not for your brand. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.920 It's a little product that you're just coming out that 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.720 that maybe like, like you said, maybe, I mean, she's 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:15.760 not baking. 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.600 It, like it's not her recipe and oh it's not. 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.040 No, it's not her recipe. So wait, she doesn't use 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.640 her name. But wait, wait, wait, wait, I didn't know this. 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:29.400 I thought she literally was in the kitchen concocting some recipe. 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:31.760 No, did she license part. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.040 A baker, like a bakery that you know she's paying 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.960 to make the cookies. And then yeah, if you and 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.040 if you look at the ingredients, it's not like someone 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.240 came up with these ingredients like there there's a. 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:46.359 Whole like like a lot of like shit in there. Yeah, 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.600 she's just using a local person, local bakery from New 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.280 Jersey to distribute the cookies. That's all that she's doing. 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.520 And she's slapping her name on it, and that's really 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:56.360 all that it is. 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:02.800 Yeah, Melissa, In the words of Kyle Richards to her 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:08.720 sister kill who talked about Lisa Renda's husband, I can't 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.480 defend you in defensive all. 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:15.880 Right, No, I know it really is. You know what though, 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.680 I will say, Melissa's PR. She has got a new 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.119 PR and they're really working it. Like they probably have 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:27.000 spent so much money because they've sent those cookies to 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.000 every influencer you can think of, every real househive that 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.439 you could think of, and then they put in the 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.560 note like we love if you can share this. So 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.920 that costs a lot of money. I mean that's not 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:41.439 that's not so they have invested so much. I do 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.120 think like it's a good gag gift, like it's something 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.040 you're gonna bring to someone's house. But then we just 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.080 found out that they're not even half of them are 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.280 not even going out by Christmas time, so that kind 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:55.840 of sucks. And what else chante. 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:01.199 Oh shad tell I need to know? 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.000 And now was like, what if you need my name 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:09.840 is poisoned them? I don't want to do that. How 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:11.880 did it look? How was the packaging? Because I heard 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:13.400 the packaging is different than what it. 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.159 Was, like it was like a pink box. There's like 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.440 a pinkin like, yeah, it's it was a pink box. 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.640 It does look nice, but like they were thirty dollars 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.639 for twelve cookies. I'll bring them on Christmas everex and 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:23.880 we'll try them, and you know, I care. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:25.160 We'll let you know, Carlos. 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:29.000 But it yeah, like it took a while though it 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.199 took me, like it took like over a week for 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.080 them to get sent too. So like to me, it's 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:34.840 just like silly, like you just go down the road, 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.240 go to like I keep saying, whole food or something, 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:38.960 then get cookies, you know, like that's what. 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.160 You would do. I just needs to gaget like everyone 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.719 loves the real Housewives, so they're like, oh my god, 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.320 I'm gonna send them to sprinkle cookies. This will be 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.520 funny on Christmas and and so I mean, like, yeah, 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.280 but I would be so embarrassed, Carlos. I think the 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.560 reason Melissa did it now is because she knows that 0:18:55.640 --> 0:19:00.720 her and Teresa are so done, So she's not embarrassed, 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.560 like she's willing to do this because I'm sure Jurisa 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.880 would be like, you're literally like I want to cut 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:07.760 up that if they were good or something, you know. 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.159 So because she knows they're done, she knows that Teresa's 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.080 not gonna like text her and be like really, bitch. 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.240 So I feel like this was like for her, perfect opportunity. 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:18.000 Plus like she's worried she's not going to come back 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.000 to the show. But she was saying, you know, like 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.240 I hope that I could create cookies, like and the 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:26.359 antonia takes over this business, And I thought that was weird. Yeah, 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:31.480 Carlos is like looking like a crazy right, it's crazy. 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:38.240 Melessa, Oh gods, my thig is this? I really? This 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:39.840 is just me big producer. 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:41.879 So one of the things about being a producer on 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.200 a reality show when you have meetings with reality stars 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:49.200 and this is maybe an exclusive for the audience. Nine 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:52.040 times out of ten the producer gave the reality star 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:53.240 business idea. 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:58.640 That's so interesting, oh, one thousand percent. 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.399 I can't tell you how many times I have suggested 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:06.159 to my reality stars, hey, you should actually do this 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:07.720 in terms of a business. 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:08.600 You should do that. 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:13.480 I cannot tell you across my resume how many reality 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:17.119 stars I have suggested business ideas too, in order for 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.479 them to have a storyline and ultimately make money, you know, 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.080 because that's what you want to do. If I was 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.359 on Melissa's team, I would say this, you are a 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:27.679 beautiful canvas. 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.480 You like clothes, You have a store called Envy. 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:35.600 Why don't you partner with she by Chera and come 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.280 out with an exclusive line? 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:39.040 Do you know what I mean? 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:39.119 Like? 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.960 Yeah, but that's what I'm like, something that really fits 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:48.960 her style, pun intended, and something that to me has 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.280 staying power. We were just talking about before we recorded, 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.959 me and Chantaba talking about how we shop online, and 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.520 Chantellba was saying, like Carlos, I hate going to stores 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.119