1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos Kings, the. 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: King of Reality TV and one of. 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: The most sought after executive producers in reality television with 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: over ten years a production experience. Twice a week from 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Reality with the King, we'll sit down with my friends 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: Hey, rain drops. 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: On today's episode of Reality with the King, the girls 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: are back, Honey and the worth of ru Paul bring 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: back my girls. And no, I'm not talking about the 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: queens on Drag Race. I'm talking about the queens on 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: the podcast Baby. Yes, they came to my show a 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and Honey, the comments were commenting. Everyone 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: talked about what a great collaboration it was, and look, 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: I love these girls. 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: They are so hilarious. 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Okay, if you guys like them or not, I don't 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: give a ship because I do, and that's all that matters. 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: But give it up on my love from being All 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: about the Real Housewives podcast Rock Sand and Shanttan. 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: Hey, Hi, Carlos, Carlos, I'm digging your beard. I know 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: we have to You guys can't see it, but I 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: am loving the beard. 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, honey. Just call me the Black Sans. 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 3: I I I give gifts. 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 4: We're so happy to be here and this is a 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: gift to be on your podcast. 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: Thank you cha tell listen, everybody had a lot to 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: say with you two appeared on my podcast a few 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: weeks ago, but it was overwhelmingly positive about sexing. 32 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: I know, we got we got so many people, yeah, 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: reaching out to us and they were like, we love 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: the connection that you guys have with Carlos King. Like 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: they're like, you guys are so aligned and you guys 36 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: just buy really well. And I was like, yeah, we're 37 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: all from Michigan. We're all from Detroit, Like of course we. 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: Did, honey, Midwest of bell Yes, look I am somebody 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: who do what the fuck I want to do. Let's 40 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: say that and listen. I love you girls, and I'm 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: so happy we get to have a day of hot topic. 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: So we have to talk about the breaking news that 43 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: made me tear up a little bit. Andy Cohen recently 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: revealed that The Real Housewives of New Jersey is not 45 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: returning until the year twenty twenty six, and I'm like. 46 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: Excuse me. 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: That was I like, like, what, girls, I am not 48 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: okay with this news. I need my girls back. What 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: is going on in Jersey? What intel do you ladies have? 50 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you my insight as well. 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: Well. I actually wanted to ask you what didn't they 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: do this with Atlanta? They did? They did the exact 53 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: same thing. We're Candy was like I'm done waiting, and 54 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: Candy basically quit. 55 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 56 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: So even Atlanta is one of the top rated they 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: did the same thing, So I mean, I guess it's 58 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: and look what they did was vander Pump rules, So 59 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: I don't It wasn't very shocked. 60 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: I was shocked because they andyicupped saying you're not gonna 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 4: know until January. 62 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: You're not gonna know until January. 63 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden he droves because like 64 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 4: everyone does, keep asking him because everyone wants to know, 65 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: and then he came back and was like, you guys 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 4: are not getting it until next year, and everyone like 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: freaked that out, which like it's crazy. 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: To put these girls on such a long way. 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's crazy. So what this is 70 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: what's so interesting? Rock saying you are correct, Atlanta Housewives 71 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: suffered through a waiting period, right yeah, and because of that, 72 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: Candy Burris did say that she got tired of waiting 73 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: and she took the opportunities and ultimately. 74 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: She quit the show. So she did quit the show. 75 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: She was asked back, she decided to say no because 76 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: during that waiting period she had at obligations to do 77 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: other stuff and that's what she's doing as we speak. 78 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: So Atlanta Housewives is not coming back until twenty twenty. 79 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: Five, right, yeah, it's at the end. 80 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: So we don't know what month is coming back. We're 81 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: hearing March, that's what we're hearing. But again, we just 82 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: don't know. They did reveal a clip during the Miami 83 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: version of Bravo Khne with Porsche visiting her divorce attorney, 84 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: So look, we don't know what's going to happen when 85 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: it comes to Atlanta, meaning what month is going to premiere. 86 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: But you're right, it did take a long pause. I 87 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: am hearing great things. 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: About it though. 89 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: They have four new girls, Shmia being one of them, 90 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: Porscha's back, Cynthia's a friend of Kenya is there for 91 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: half a season, and Faith comes back two weeks before 92 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: they filming and she gets a hold to Peach. So 93 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: it's a lot of surprises there, right, so we forget 94 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: to see if it was worth the way I'm hearing 95 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: it is, so I can't wait for us to see it. 96 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: Now Jersey is significantly different, because let's let's let's have 97 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: a real conversation. The biggest choice they have to make 98 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: is who do they keep between Teresa and Melissa. 99 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 2: And this is no Shaye to Margaret, this is no 100 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: shade to Jennifer Aiden or Dolores. 101 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Right, this big pause has one hundred percent to do 102 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: with Teresa or Melissa. Now, with that being said, and 103 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: let's be real here, what do you think ultimately is 104 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: going to happen? If you guys were flies on the 105 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: wall in the decision making, I. 106 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: Think that they're going to bring I just can't see 107 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: a world where they would bring Melissa over Teresa back 108 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: unless Teresa had to spin off so on less TERSA 109 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: and I still don't even think they'll bring Melissa back. 110 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: I think that they're gonna end up bringing their You know, 111 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 3: Dolores has been really out there, so I think obviously 112 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: we all know they're going to bring her, And I 113 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: do think they're going to bring Margaret back, even though 114 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: Margaret has really nothing going at least, I guess that's 115 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: what I prefer. I prefer Margaret to come back over 116 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: Melissa any day. But you know, they tried the Melissa 117 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 3: stuff this season where she's not really talking about Teresa, 118 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: but she still did, and then they tried bringing her 119 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 3: family into it, and it didn't click. It didn't vibe. 120 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: You know, Melissa's out here trying to be an influencer, 121 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: and I feel like she can do well with that, 122 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: so like she can live that influencer era. She's reminding me, 123 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: like very much of like the Kim Kardashian thing, what 124 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: Kim Kardashian does and stuff, So I feel like she's 125 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 3: good doing that. You know, she's very social media heavy 126 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: and stuff. But I just can't see them ever bringing 127 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: her back. I think they just want things to settle 128 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: down and go from there and who knows, you know what. 129 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: I feel like, there's a lot of great people in 130 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: Jersey that would be amaz like Italians would be amazing 131 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 3: for reality TV. So if you know, we did a 132 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: revamp in New York and it didn't work. But I 133 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: feel like if they did something like that in New 134 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: Jersey and it was like people who were already friends 135 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 3: and connected, it might work. I agree. 136 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: I think I also have to do with who they're 137 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: going to bring in New so, like I think that 138 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: that was a factor. It's like, is this person gonna 139 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: vibe with the Teresa or they're gonna vibe with the Melissa's. 140 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: Like I think that's what also they're gonna take in consideration. Yeah, 141 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: they've been interviewing people, Like we know a lot of 142 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: people that they've interviewed, so they they've been doing that. 143 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: So obviously, like at least the one thing is like, 144 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: we know the show is coming back, but it is 145 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: going to be very interesting to see what they do. 146 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the thing. 147 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: I just don't see a world where a woman who 148 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: has been the face of the show since season one, 149 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: not like season three. 150 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: I'll give you a good example. 151 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: P Porsia came on season five, right, and arguably she 152 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: has immersed herself to be a force multiplier on Atlanta housewise, 153 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: and she's young and she brought a very young audience 154 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: along with her and she made her mark. So it 155 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: makes sense to make Porsche of the face of a 156 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: rebooted Atlanta housewise, when let's be real, Herenni Leeks will 157 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: remain the face of the franchise, right But if we're 158 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: talking about a rebooted version, it does make sense for 159 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: Portia to do it because she's done significant iconic thing 160 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: since she's been on the show, and she is very 161 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: youthful and fresh. So when you bring on youthful and 162 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: fresh women, it makes sense that they'll be around Portsche 163 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: being the captain of this ship, right the thing. But 164 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: Teresa is this Teresa's relevance has never dissipated, and I 165 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: think that's the difference when you think about her and 166 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: the other ogs who's coming gone, Teresa is still very 167 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: much relevant. Teresa is still very much has so much 168 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: personal story. 169 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, whether or 170 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 2: not you. 171 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: Like Louie, you can't negate the fact that there's an 172 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: interesting story there when it comes to them that I 173 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: worked for Bravo before producing all of these shows and 174 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: seasons of it, that you don't want to miss any 175 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: sort of story that's going to materialize with Teresa and 176 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: Louie and the children. It's just something is always there. 177 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: And Teresa is like Christmas Morning, She is the gift 178 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: that keeps on giving without even trying hard. And look, 179 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: I agree with you by Melissa. I've said this once. 180 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: I'll say before. Melissa's beautiful. She's a very beautiful woman, okay, 181 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: and you cannot take that away from her. She's a 182 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: great mom. Her kids are very mannerable, they they're sweet. 183 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: She's a great mom. When it comes to being the 184 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: face of a friend, I think she can't pull that 185 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: job off, right, you. 186 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: Know what I mean? And and and. 187 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: This is no disrespect to Melissa, and I'll i'll and 188 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: I'll say this and I said it to Teresa. Melissa 189 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: was once great for the show and you can't deny 190 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: what she brought to the show courtesy of the interaction 191 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: she had with Teresa. However, it doesn't mean she can 192 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: carry a show. 193 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: I just don't believe it. 194 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: She's young, she's beautiful, and like you said, Rock Sande, 195 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: she is sort of like this Bethany Franco influencer at 196 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: this point. 197 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that was nice to you, Carlos Kan I'm 198 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: just saying, how okay, girl, what Kim Kardashian, What I'm 199 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: saying is like Kim Kardashian is you know, I don't 200 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: know how old. She's like, you know, mid forties, and 201 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: she's still like really wants to be and and and 202 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: she looks amazing. And I don't think, you know whatever, 203 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: she looks amazing, but she just really wants to still 204 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: be out there. She hasn't changed her brand at all. 205 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: So that's like what I mean when I'm saying Kim Kardashian, 206 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: it's like they really, you know, I don't know, they're 207 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 3: stuck in that influenced era. But in a in a 208 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,119 Speaker 3: way that's not I think you're thinking. 209 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: Of her like watch what Happens Live out But recently 210 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 4: it was very Kim k like ty here thinking almost 211 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: at her nipple. 212 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: So that's fine, I don't know. 213 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so so that's my thing. Now I'm gagging girls. 214 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: So you girls think that there's a possibility Mark, Yeah, 215 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: we'll be asked back. 216 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: Oh shit, tell me, tell me why? And what what? What? 217 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: What info? Do you have? Girls that I don't Well. 218 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 3: No, I just think because with it, I think Margaret 219 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: shitting her pants because this is everything to her. She 220 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: wants to come back. She hasn't been, as you know, 221 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 3: bad on social media. She's a type who does see 222 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: everything but she's kind of smart about it. She has 223 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: brought along storylines. I mean, she's been very dirty and 224 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 3: vicious about it. But I do think she is someone 225 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: who can maybe take accountability, whereas in with Melissa, Melissa's 226 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: never taken accountability for anything, so and people like to say, well, 227 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: Teresa hasn't. If you rewatch season three, four and five, 228 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: Teresa's saying sorry at least one hundred times, So that's 229 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: taking accountability, where like, you know, if I did that, 230 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, That's that's what taking accountability is. So I 231 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: just feel like, you know, with Atlanta, they're bringing back 232 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: some faces and then they're bringing some new people and 233 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: it actually looks like it's gonna be the biggest hit 234 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: in a long time. So I feel like they're going 235 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: to keep some people. And if they're going to keep 236 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 3: some people, if it's Margaret and Melissa, I do think 237 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: they're gonna end up choosing Margaret because Margaret will end 238 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: up being able to make peace or you know, even 239 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 3: though like her and Teresa hate each other, I can 240 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: see them moving on as long as Melissa's not there. 241 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 4: And I think like if they Melissa back, but Teresa, 242 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 4: it's like what was the whole point of the pause, 243 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 4: Like it would make no sense for it, you know, like, 244 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 4: what were we doing. 245 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: This whole time? 246 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: If she's if they came back, it'd be the same 247 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: show and the same thing that you just saw like 248 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 4: last season. So it would be silly for them to 249 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 4: bring both of them back. And I do think they 250 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 4: would bring Margaret Margaret back over. 251 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: You know, I was gonna say, how about when Andy 252 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: told or most said to Andy, you're making people Why 253 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: are you making people way about the show? And He's like, 254 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it took you fifteen years to do the 255 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: springs Hilt. 256 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 2: Listen, listen, listen. 257 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: Andy Cohen is iconic because at the end of the day, 258 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: he's not only smart and a great businessman, he also 259 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: is shady and I love it about him. That was 260 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: a fun read, and let's just transition into that. Yeah, 261 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't listen. I try my 262 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: best to make sure that I don't come across as 263 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: Melissa hater like you girls, because at the end of 264 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: the day, Teresa's my sister her and she's I know, 265 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: cool with you guys, and people think I'm a. 266 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: I wish we were paid. Well, don't you hate when 267 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 3: people when you have a different opinion than someone, they 268 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: then say, oh, you must be getting paid. It's like, no, 269 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: I just watched the show. 270 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched the show like you do, and I 271 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: have an opinion and it's okay. 272 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: But I digress. 273 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: I try my best to find the great things my 274 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: Melissa once I said it before, she's beautiful, she's a 275 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: great mom, and at one point she was a great housewife. 276 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: The Sprinkle Cookies bothers me for this reason alone. You 277 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: complain about Teresa, you said she's dead to you. You 278 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: claim that you aren't in her shadows, that you're not 279 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: always a part of her storyline, and you do the 280 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: very thing that made you interesting when you first got 281 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: on the show because of what Teresa said. And and 282 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: for me, it's like, I don't understand why you waited 283 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: fifteen years to come out with a line of sprinkle cookies. 284 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: And listen, I'm not saying they're not delicious. I'm pretty 285 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: sure they are. Bethany Franco said, is good. A lot 286 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: of people she sent it to said is good. 287 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: Melissa. I'm going on my care package. 288 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: I will send it through TSA first, just to make sure. 289 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: It's not poisonous. I'm kidding. 290 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: But Melissa said, if your care package, I'll talk about 291 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: it my podcast. But but I think for me it's this. 292 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: If I was on Melissa's team, I would say, if 293 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: you're trying to prove to the world that you don't 294 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: need any sort of attachment to Teresa, then let's not 295 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: do it. Will you make money, sure, will you sell out, absolutely, 296 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: But let's think of the long game here. Let's think 297 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: of five years from now, do you know what I mean? 298 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: And I feel like Melissa is always doing something to 299 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: extend her fifteen minutes of fame. 300 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: I think these sprinkle cookies are this. 301 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: Sucks the point because it's like and like and how 302 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 4: far are you going to get with just sprinkle cookies. 303 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: It's not brand, it's not for your brand. 304 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: It's a little product that you're just coming out that 305 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 4: that maybe like, like you said, maybe, I mean, she's 306 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: not baking. 307 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: It, like it's not her recipe and oh it's not. 308 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: No, it's not her recipe. So wait, she doesn't use 309 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: her name. But wait, wait, wait, wait, I didn't know this. 310 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: I thought she literally was in the kitchen concocting some recipe. 311 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: No, did she license part. 312 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: A baker, like a bakery that you know she's paying 313 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 4: to make the cookies. And then yeah, if you and 314 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 4: if you look at the ingredients, it's not like someone 315 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: came up with these ingredients like there there's a. 316 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,359 Speaker 3: Whole like like a lot of like shit in there. Yeah, 317 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: she's just using a local person, local bakery from New 318 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: Jersey to distribute the cookies. That's all that she's doing. 319 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: And she's slapping her name on it, and that's really 320 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: all that it is. 321 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, Melissa, In the words of Kyle Richards to her 322 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 5: sister kill who talked about Lisa Renda's husband, I can't 323 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 5: defend you in defensive all. 324 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 3: Right, No, I know it really is. You know what though, 325 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 3: I will say, Melissa's PR. She has got a new 326 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: PR and they're really working it. Like they probably have 327 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: spent so much money because they've sent those cookies to 328 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: every influencer you can think of, every real househive that 329 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 3: you could think of, and then they put in the 330 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: note like we love if you can share this. So 331 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: that costs a lot of money. I mean that's not 332 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 3: that's not so they have invested so much. I do 333 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 3: think like it's a good gag gift, like it's something 334 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: you're gonna bring to someone's house. But then we just 335 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: found out that they're not even half of them are 336 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: not even going out by Christmas time, so that kind 337 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: of sucks. And what else chante. 338 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: Oh shad tell I need to know? 339 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 3: And now was like, what if you need my name 340 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: is poisoned them? I don't want to do that. How 341 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 3: did it look? How was the packaging? Because I heard 342 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 3: the packaging is different than what it. 343 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 4: Was, like it was like a pink box. There's like 344 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 4: a pinkin like, yeah, it's it was a pink box. 345 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 4: It does look nice, but like they were thirty dollars 346 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: for twelve cookies. I'll bring them on Christmas everex and 347 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 4: we'll try them, and you know, I care. 348 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 3: We'll let you know, Carlos. 349 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: But it yeah, like it took a while though it 350 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 4: took me, like it took like over a week for 351 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 4: them to get sent too. So like to me, it's 352 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 4: just like silly, like you just go down the road, 353 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: go to like I keep saying, whole food or something, 354 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: then get cookies, you know, like that's what. 355 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 3: You would do. I just needs to gaget like everyone 356 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 3: loves the real Housewives, so they're like, oh my god, 357 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna send them to sprinkle cookies. This will be 358 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: funny on Christmas and and so I mean, like, yeah, 359 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: but I would be so embarrassed, Carlos. I think the 360 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: reason Melissa did it now is because she knows that 361 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: her and Teresa are so done, So she's not embarrassed, 362 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: like she's willing to do this because I'm sure Jurisa 363 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 3: would be like, you're literally like I want to cut 364 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: up that if they were good or something, you know. 365 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 3: So because she knows they're done, she knows that Teresa's 366 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: not gonna like text her and be like really, bitch. 367 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 3: So I feel like this was like for her, perfect opportunity. 368 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: Plus like she's worried she's not going to come back 369 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: to the show. But she was saying, you know, like 370 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: I hope that I could create cookies, like and the 371 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: antonia takes over this business, And I thought that was weird. Yeah, 372 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: Carlos is like looking like a crazy right, it's crazy. 373 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: Melessa, Oh gods, my thig is this? I really? This 374 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: is just me big producer. 375 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: So one of the things about being a producer on 376 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: a reality show when you have meetings with reality stars 377 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: and this is maybe an exclusive for the audience. Nine 378 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: times out of ten the producer gave the reality star 379 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: business idea. 380 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: That's so interesting, oh, one thousand percent. 381 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times I have suggested 382 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: to my reality stars, hey, you should actually do this 383 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: in terms of a business. 384 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: You should do that. 385 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you across my resume how many reality 386 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: stars I have suggested business ideas too, in order for 387 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: them to have a storyline and ultimately make money, you know, 388 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: because that's what you want to do. If I was 389 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: on Melissa's team, I would say this, you are a 390 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: beautiful canvas. 391 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: You like clothes, You have a store called Envy. 392 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: Why don't you partner with she by Chera and come 393 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: out with an exclusive line? 394 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? 395 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 3: Like? 396 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what I'm like, something that really fits 397 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: her style, pun intended, and something that to me has 398 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: staying power. We were just talking about before we recorded, 399 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: me and Chantaba talking about how we shop online, and 400 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: Chantellba was saying, like Carlos, I hate going to stores 401 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: now because a bitch like to see somebody with the 402 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: outfit on. 403 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: So imagine, imagine if. 404 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: Melissa had a TikTok shop and she was able to 405 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: try on the clothes and go live and people buying 406 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: the time for with Charay next to her, Like that's 407 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: the ship that I think. 408 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: Nothing long term and things that like are setting you 409 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 4: into that person, like we've seen you for the last 410 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: ten fifteen years talk about clothes. You got so mad 411 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 4: when a lecta from Miami said, you like Jersey had 412 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 4: the worst fashion because she thinks she has such good fashion. 413 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 4: So it's like, that's the avenue you should really like 414 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 4: straight golden. 415 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: Well curls. I have a question, does Bravo get a 416 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 3: cut from these things? 417 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: So good question? 418 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: So there is and it's only because she talks about 419 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: it all the time. The be Anthony clause is correct, 420 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: it's not. It's it's an unofficial word that is called 421 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: the Bethany clause where when you sign onto the reality show, 422 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: you do if you create a business within the season, 423 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: the network has the right to expert a cut. I 424 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: don't know if they ever exercised it, because look, and 425 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: this is this is the honest truth. 426 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: Nobody has a mask. 427 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: One hundred million dollar business like like skinny Girl, do 428 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So based on the earnings 429 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: of like what the girls make. I don't think it's 430 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: been exercised. Okay, okay, you know what I mean, because 431 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: it's sort of like, do I really want to take 432 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: your money based on your making like one hundred thousand 433 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: dollars in profit? 434 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 3: Do you know what? Yeh? 435 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but contractfully they do. 436 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: Wow, that's so interesting. 437 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 438 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 3: I mean, she said she's gonna do Valentine's Day cookies 439 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: and I don't know if it'll be just as much 440 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 3: as a hit, because again, I think with Christmas people 441 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: were like, I'm gonna bring this wrong. 442 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I think so too. I think so too. 443 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: How we are just getting started. This is reality with 444 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into 445 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: the show. So let's shift gears a little bit. The 446 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: unfortunate news that Karen Huger was found guilty of a 447 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: d UI, where she now faces up to two years 448 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: in prison. The video was released of her arrest that 449 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: broke the internet. I want to hear from you ladies 450 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: about that. I mean, I'll sell it by saying, look, 451 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: I love Karen. Karen is a great housewife, and my 452 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: thoughts in Prince go out to her and the family. 453 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: It was sad to watch. I couldn't watch all of that. 454 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: It was it was just too It was too sad 455 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: for me. But what do you ladies think about that? 456 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: Is it's something where you think Karen should have accepted 457 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: the plea deal that allegedly was offered to her. 458 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 4: I said, like, it was it's weird that she would 459 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 4: go down that route when knowing this is not her 460 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 4: first dui. Her DUIs were like earlier, like in like 461 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: two thousand and six and stuff. But on record, people 462 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 4: don't care, like the judge and people see that, so 463 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter for twenty years ago, thirty years ago, 464 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: she's had three. 465 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 3: Now this is her third one like on record, so it's. 466 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: Like, if you know that and you know how people 467 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 4: are going to feel, I would have taken a plea deal. 468 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 4: I would never have brought that into the courtroom ever, 469 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 4: and kind of knowing what the state of you know, 470 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 4: the state you're in, you're not you're not you're not 471 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 4: innocent at all in it. 472 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: So I thought it was crazy. Yeah, I was. I 473 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: was really disappointed because I thought, you know, like she 474 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: kept saying, you know, just wait, you'll see and it's 475 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 3: like we did see and watching the video was shocking. 476 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: It was uncomfortable, But it also made me mad because 477 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, you have been handling this so wrong on 478 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 3: the show. You haven't even been showing any remorse at all. 479 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: Then we see these videos and you're literally wasted and 480 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 3: the fact that you wasted people's time you went to try, 481 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 3: Like that's crazy to me when she's so guilty and 482 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 3: she said those things and there on the camera, like 483 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: it was just very very embarrassing. And I'm sure the 484 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 3: ladies are shook it by it too, But I mean 485 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: that she showed no remorse to me. I mean the 486 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: way Shannon was acting, you know, I think people could 487 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: rally behind her because she did take accountability for it, 488 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: whereas in Karen didn't at all. Like you, I really 489 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 3: thought she had a case. 490 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the footage was just it was shocking 491 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: to see that. It was just it was just shocking 492 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: to see. And and and I do agree with you 493 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: in terms of my question is did the lawyer see it? 494 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: Because what lawyer would say let's go to trial after 495 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: watching that, because I would be like, let's come up 496 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: with another plan, because this is what has been alleged, allegedly, 497 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: Cameron was offered a plea deal to where she would 498 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: have six months of house arrested and community service. Right 499 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: based on the knowledge that I have, and it's limiteds. 500 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: I'm out of an attorney. I'm not sing Kardashian, so 501 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's no quali after my last name. But 502 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: allegedly she was offered six months of house arrest in 503 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: addition to community service, and based on that alone, if 504 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: that is true, If that is true, I I don't 505 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: quite understand why that wasn't taken. It's it's we all 506 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: dealt with COVID, We all dealt with our own version 507 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: of a house arrested during the pandemic, and we sort 508 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: of made a party for ourselves. We were able to 509 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: like bring the party to us, order Uber East or 510 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: insta cart, you know, we were able to do things 511 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: to where we didn't feel so isolated. So I don't 512 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: understand that. But someone did say this, and I'm gonna 513 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: get you lady's thoughts on this. Somebody did say that 514 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: the reason they feel like Karen did not accept the 515 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: alleged plea deal is because she did not want to 516 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: face the music on the Oh. 517 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, that's exactly what I thought. Like, I 518 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: feel like the reason that she did in this because 519 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: she's like, oh my gosh, the media is gonna, you know, 520 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 3: there's gonna be headlines about how I'm on house arrest 521 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 3: and all this stuff, and I feel like she would 522 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 3: be so mortified. Then the girls would all come for 523 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 3: her for it, and I think that really has everything 524 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 3: to do with it. But then it's like, look what happened. Now, 525 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: now you're really like you're gonna have something that happens 526 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 3: that's way worse than what you could have taken. 527 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 4: So she was definitely living in delululand like I don't 528 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: know if she didn't know that, like she does have 529 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: a problem or she did have ay problem that night, 530 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 4: she was definitely I don't think she was understanding. I 531 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: don't think she like understood that she wanted to be 532 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 4: like labeled as what she's going to get labeled. 533 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 3: Now. There's no way her lawyer didn't have access to 534 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 3: that one percent. He did. 535 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild that listen. 536 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: Listen, when you are a public figure, and I tell 537 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: people this all the time, Excuse me, I tell people 538 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: this all the time. When you are a public figure. 539 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: You gotta have the right people around you. You can't 540 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: have yes people. And I'm not saying this lawyer say yes, person, yes. 541 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: What I am saying is if your lawyer did not say, look, 542 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 1: take the plea, fuck this show the storyline, deal with 543 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: that shit. If I was somebody in Karen's life, I 544 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: would say, girl, yeah, fuck. 545 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: The storyline on the show. 546 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: If anything go in, be remorseful, because my thing is 547 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: this and this is why reality stars. You guys gotta 548 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: you gotta understand that social media is not the real world, 549 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: and you got to understand that TV's TV. In some cases, 550 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: I would have said to Karen, look, apologize, be remorseful, 551 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, what can people 552 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: say to you after that? 553 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 554 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: Like, if you're saying I fucked up, it was bad, 555 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: I made a mistake. I'm going to you know, I'm 556 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: gonna do the right thing in community service whatever. I 557 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: will never drink again. I think your cast, I believe this. 558 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 1: Your cast would say, well, fuck she took accomnfortability for it. 559 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: We will look like assholes and we keep beating this 560 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: over her head. 561 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: The problem is Karen only surrounds herself with people who 562 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 3: are yes people. She I know you're saying that, but 563 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: I don't think Karen will f with you if you 564 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: have a different opinion. So I feel like people sense 565 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: that and feel that, and so it's either Karen's way 566 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: or no way, and that's just what she and that's 567 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: the only way that she'll tolerate and talk to you 568 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: and be okay with you. So I'm sure the attorney 569 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: did say I don't recommend this, and I'm sure she 570 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: was like, well, no, we're gonna do what I say. 571 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: I'm paying you. I can see that with Karen. I 572 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: don't know, because it just doesn't make sense. No lawyer. 573 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: I guess we have to look up who this attorney is, 574 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: because no attorney would ever, you know, suggest that she 575 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: has a better chance taking this a trial with videos 576 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: like that. 577 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 4: Well this better be a good reality chuck, That's all 578 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 4: I'll say, because she needs to have people put her 579 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 4: in chuck. 580 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 581 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 582 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: Once again, our thoughts in Prince got to Karen the 583 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: family and look, I'm great, fun thankful that she wasn't 584 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: hurt and that she did not hurt any and that's 585 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: and that's that's what we're grateful for But ladies, how 586 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: do you guys feel, are you grateful or not that 587 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: Alexis being that Alexis Bellino was not asked back to 588 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Orange County. 589 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 3: So, well, here's the thing. So I saw that you 590 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: did an interview with her and she says to you, Carlos, 591 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: what could I have done different? And just her asking that, 592 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: and you were like, and I think you said something 593 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: we put on all about Terry shock coam. But I 594 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 3: think you said something where you were just like constantly 595 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: defending John when you didn't need to. You said it 596 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 3: way better. But just her asking that after the fact 597 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: is why I think Brabo made the right decision, because 598 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 3: she still doesn't get it. She still doesn't understand it. 599 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: If she's asking you that question, I would have. 600 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 4: Liked to see, you know, the relationship still, like maybe 601 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 4: things might happen, or there might be a double wedding 602 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 4: with her and Jen like them planning the weddings like 603 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 4: that could have been interesting to me to see and 604 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 4: then maybe we could have seen her have a little bit. 605 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 4: Like you said, if she doesn't even know what she 606 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 4: did wrong, how could she have remorse? But maybe she 607 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 4: could have like tried a little bit with Hannan a 608 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 4: little bit more, and we could have saw that saw 609 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 4: that that would have been a great That would have 610 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 4: been a great season too. So I am kind of 611 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 4: sad that she's not asked back, even though I came 612 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 4: for her all season long because she was just she 613 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: was just wild. 614 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: But I am sad. 615 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm not shocked. I'm not shocked at all. 616 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm not shocked. I did hear from my sources that 617 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: allegedly Alexis was told to dollar down and she just 618 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: didn't listen. I was told that. Not sure if that's 619 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: true or not, but that's I was told that. But 620 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: I do think this. She gave a lot to this season, 621 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: whether you liked it or not, Like she gave a lot, 622 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: and and listen, when it comes to our job as 623 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: podcast host, what she gave is great for our job 624 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: because we can you know what I. 625 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: Mean, we get. 626 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: No swearing it. 627 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: We love it. I love it. So she gave a 628 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: lot to the show. 629 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: And what I did say to her was like, you 630 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: gotta again, it's all about having the right people in 631 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: your ear, whether not you listen to them or not, 632 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: but you have to because I would have shaken her like, girlfriend, 633 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: stop defending this man. He's not president. And if they 634 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: bring it up, change the subject. Because one thing Shannon did, 635 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: which whoever Shannon has in her life, Shannon give them 636 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: a nice Christmas gift because the way she play did 637 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: to me and and girls think about it. The first 638 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: fucking episode, the first event she approached Alexis, she said, 639 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: let's just get this over with. That that showed me 640 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: that she understood the assignment and that she said I'm 641 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: going to take control of the narrative. And Shanna Badoor again, 642 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: whether you like her or not, she was the smartest 643 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: player this season. Because you would think that everybody would 644 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: be like, oh my gosh, you have to DOUI with 645 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: You're a bad person. Whatever the case may be. She 646 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: was able to what you lady said earlier. She was 647 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: able to own it. Appolo died to be accountable and 648 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: honestly deal with in a way that you felt like, 649 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: whether or not she's gonna stop drinking is her prerogative. 650 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell her what to do. 651 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: But because she had Tamra attagonize her and I told 652 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: Tama this too. 653 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: I said, girl, you went way too hard. 654 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: To the point where I'm even looking at you sideways 655 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: and I like you, but even I'm like, damn Tamara, 656 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: like he's up over her, Like that's what she's going 657 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: through is so bad. But Alexis is just I just 658 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: don't know what else she could have done after. 659 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: The show was shocked. 660 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: I think it was like, girl, there's nothing you can do, 661 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: even a press run. 662 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 663 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 4: I think a lot of a lot of the you know, 664 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 4: the Bravo stars are like out of touch with what 665 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 4: we might actually think about what's happening. So like they 666 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 4: think we're gonna think one way and then all of 667 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 4: a sudden, and it could be the production and how 668 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 4: it's produced, but all of a sudden, like like the 669 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 4: whole Tamar and Channing situation, we are thought they all 670 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 4: thought we were gonna be on you know, Tamra's side, 671 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 4: but like everyone rallied around Shannon, So it's like no 672 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 4: one they don't really realize what we're gonna take away 673 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 4: from watching the show. And I think they think about 674 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 4: it way too much and they shouldn't. 675 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Tamara did say Tama had said She's like 676 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: I never in a million years thought the viewers were 677 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 3: gonna react to me that they've reacted, and so it's like, okay, 678 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 3: so you didn't think that, So you treated Channon worse 679 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: and worse every episode because you thought that that's what 680 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: we were gonna want to see. That's like so messed up. 681 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 3: You know, that's that was someone that you actually considered 682 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: your friend. How can you do that to someone you 683 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 3: considered your friend who is already at their lowest and 684 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 3: then you bring that man his new girlfriend to the show. 685 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 3: That's a lot on someone. 686 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, totally, totally, totally. 687 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: Speaking of friendship, Heather, Gina, Emily, Shannon, and Tamra had 688 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: a holiday bestie brunch. To the point girls, they I 689 00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: think exchanged bracelets. 690 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 3: Bracelett Yeah, grow up, how you really feel? 691 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: Go hit sister, well. 692 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 4: Grow up because you're excluding people grow up with the 693 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 4: matching bracelets, Like I just cannot like why. And then 694 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 4: like and then on top of that, like they had 695 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 4: to post it, like they posted so much about it 696 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 4: that everyone had to see. So it's like it's like 697 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 4: almost they're sending a message and like we got it, 698 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 4: we got it, okay, But it's. 699 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 3: Also like shame on us for going as hard and 700 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,479 Speaker 3: defending Shannon as hard as we did, because we sat 701 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 3: there and we all had her back, and we all, 702 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 3: you know, Shannon said, yeah, I'm not gonna forgive Tamra, 703 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 3: and it's not and you should forgive because no one 704 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 3: wants to hold on to hate, right because that that 705 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 3: does more damage to you. But the fact that you 706 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: have Shannon and Tamra faces against each other, hugging each 707 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 3: other tightly, like that's where it's like, okay, whoa you 708 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 3: know where we all just played and at this point, 709 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 3: just like with Heather, you know that one season Chantal 710 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 3: where a Tamra turned on Heather and was so shady. 711 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: We defended Heather, we had her back. We felt so bad, 712 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 3: How can I'm gonna do that to her? The next season, 713 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 3: Heather comes back and she's Shannon's best friend and or 714 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 3: Tamer's best friend, and anything Tamar did she could let go, 715 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 3: and she's not someone who lets go of things. So 716 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 3: we were like, oh, shame on us, Like we went 717 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 3: so hard to like defend her. We felt so bad 718 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 3: for her, and then we did the same thing with 719 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 3: Shannon and now Shannon. I don't know what the hell 720 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 3: Tamar has on them. I'll never know but now she's 721 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 3: like BFF and it's fine to gradually get there, but 722 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 3: for it to happen this quick that just like shows 723 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 3: you how scary it all is. Like how even Shannon 724 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 3: like we're such losers, dude, we had her back so 725 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 3: hard for what And it's funny to me. 726 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 4: Like also Gina and Emily, it's like they're so happy 727 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 4: to be in the cool girls club, Like they're so happy, 728 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 4: so it's like they're not they're not there to be, 729 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 4: like they're not there to be like hey, let's let's 730 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 4: not exclude people or whatever, because they're just excited to 731 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 4: be at the table. 732 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 3: They're like, let's go. Well they're done because they think, oh, 733 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 3: by the way, Carlos, we were the one. I think 734 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 3: someone came on your episode and we were the one 735 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 3: about the babysitter thing. 736 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: With oh yeah, listen, I'm somebody who clearly don't listen 737 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: to people who try to tell me how to do 738 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: my job. We're like, who, I should have my podcast 739 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: because you ladies the actual like nanny. 740 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah no, we had all the so we 741 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 3: had everything. We didn't release it though, because we were like, 742 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 3: we're not going to release it because that's like someone's kids. 743 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 3: We're not going to release it. But I mean, we 744 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 3: spoke directly to the nanny. We saw the pictures ourselves 745 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 3: of her. It wasn't a nanny, we keep calling it 746 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 3: to nanny. It was a babysitter. We spoke directly to 747 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 3: the babysitter who had Jaxon. We know that Emily even 748 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 3: reached out to the babysitter after going ham on her. 749 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 3: So there's exclusive going to the babysitter came back and 750 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 3: told us and it was like, you know, it was like, 751 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 3: you know, very very threatening from Emily, so uh yeah, 752 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 3: very very threatening. So and we could have made that 753 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,479 Speaker 3: a huge thing. We could have made that a huge 754 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 3: thing because that text was insane, but we didn't because 755 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 3: we're just like, all right, we're gonna just drop this 756 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 3: because there's you know, obviously it's not about the you know, 757 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 3: the kids or anything, but you know, it has an affiliation, 758 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 3: and we never want to we have morals. We're never 759 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 3: going to go that low. We don't want to go 760 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 3: low like that. So we just always think it's important 761 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 3: to hear everyone's side. And so you know, yeah, I 762 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 3: just wanted to let you know because someone was like 763 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 3: Carlo's like, brought you guys up on his podcast, but 764 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 3: I guess it wasn't even it was your guest. It 765 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 3: was your guest or something. Yeah, and he didn't say 766 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 3: who or whatever. So and he had the story like 767 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: kind of spin where he's like, we don't even know 768 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 3: if that's true. 769 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: Lie. 770 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: The babysity the ability to ask the questions and give 771 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: your opinion and allow people to talk about their experience. 772 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: So that's why all of you have to subscribe to 773 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: All About the Housewives podcast because. 774 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: It's it's a great podcast. 775 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: I love it, and they actually have like great guests 776 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: on guys, So make sure you subscribe to it. But 777 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: I've been saying this in nauseam and that's the reason 778 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: why I guess so much hate about my opinions about 779 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: these alliances. 780 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 2: I tell people all the time. 781 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: The Real Housewives, honestly, gone are the days of genuine 782 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: friendships when it comes to all of them, right, Shannon 783 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: and Tamra are that cool because they both need each other. 784 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: Tamra needs Shannon to stop the social media hate, and 785 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: Shannon needs Tamara because at the end of the day, 786 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: Tama's good television. Will they ever be back being besties. 787 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Heather needs to get in where she fits in, right. 788 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: She is the one, in my opinion, who holds the 789 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 1: most grudges because Happen's real friends make ten million dollars 790 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: plus they live in Palm Beach, do you know what 791 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: I mean? Like happens real friends are none of these 792 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: girls like like Heather's friends are like upper echelon society, 793 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, Lisa, Vanda, palm Adria, Maloop. 794 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 2: Like that's her circle. 795 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: So in order for Heather to remain on this show 796 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: and have the ladies be scared of her, she has 797 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: to be friends with them. When I was at Kathy 798 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: Hilton's party, Heather hung out all night with Gina and 799 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: Emily all night, all night, all night. 800 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 3: That's wow, That's probably mean Emily's day or her night 801 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 3: because Emily has been dying to get in Heather's good 802 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 3: grace all night. 803 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 2: And that's myself. 804 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: Heather's playing it well, like she she knows she has 805 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: to like befriend these ladies and listen, I love but 806 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: let's let's call it spade a spade. 807 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 2: They're happy to be with the cool girls. It is, 808 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 2: and it is. 809 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: I will take this with you the reason why. On 810 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,919 Speaker 1: Alexi's podcast, I said to her, but Alexis, you said 811 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: that Tamara and. 812 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 2: Heather were your real friends. 813 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: How did you feel about that scene that ended part 814 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: three reunion where they pretty much threw you and John 815 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: under the bus? She told me on her podcast they 816 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: did not give her heads up. She had to watch 817 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 1: it in real time. Her feelings were hurt. She said 818 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: that her and Tamar had lunched two days prior, and 819 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: that Tamer said nothing about it, and that her and 820 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: Heather were trying to talk about it after air, and 821 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: Heather said, well, something along the lines of like, let's 822 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: let's let's table this and talk about it later. And 823 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, have you heard from them? And she said no? 824 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: And I said, do you still think they're your real friend? 825 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: And again, this is no shame. She's like, I have 826 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: a lot to think about now. So my thing is this, 827 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 1: these ladies have to show and prove that we are 828 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: going to give you guys a show about real friendships. 829 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: Which whatever, I felt bad for Jennifer, if I'm being 830 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: completely honest, Yeah, jan really thought that Shannon at least 831 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: had her back. And I'm gonna say this and I'm 832 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: not gonna take it back. Shannon's loyalty is to her 833 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: orange and that's it. 834 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, I agree. You know what, I totally 835 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 3: agree that I think for Shannon, what you know them 836 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 3: because I guess, like Alexis said that she's so good 837 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 3: with Jennifer and Katie, so I'm assuming Shannon's upset about that. 838 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 3: But it's like Tamer and Heather were literally advocating for 839 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 3: her and saying, we're close friends with Alexis, So why 840 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 3: is that okay? Why are you able to move on? 841 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think that John and Katie had 842 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 3: this like crazy relationship with Alexis at all. I just think, 843 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 3: you know, Alexis was nice to them. They're being nice back, 844 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 3: That's what I saw on TV. So I think for 845 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 3: them to forgive certain people, are Shannon to be like, 846 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 3: you know, all of a sudden hugging Tamara when Tamer 847 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 3: was like, Alexis is my friend, and you know Tamor 848 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 3: throughout the whole season, wasn't she didn't anything Alexis did 849 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 3: it was fine in Tamra's eyes. So I don't know, 850 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 3: I just think that's super messy, and I too, I 851 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 3: do really feel bad for jhen m Katie. That was 852 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 3: so messed up. 853 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but again it goes to show you 854 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: everything they did was strategic. To me, the matching bracelets 855 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: made me barf because it was sort of like show 856 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 1: I like to watch the reality of people who are 857 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 1: being real. No woman forty plus is exchanging matching bracelets, 858 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: Like what in the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants is 859 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: going on here? It was so like it was it 860 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 1: much for social media, father and to add insult to injury, 861 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 1: they all tagged each other and invited each other as 862 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: collaborated to this post, and I was like, this shit 863 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: is so like why I saw that. 864 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 4: Like Vicky like made a comment like, oh, sorry, I 865 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 4: couldn't make it, but like I think he's just being 866 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 4: he's being funny unless you really did invited. But I 867 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 4: was like, seriously, like that's how I would say. 868 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, sorry, I couldn't make it. Yeah, if they 869 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 3: were smart, they wouldn't. They wouldn't enter a new season 870 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 3: like this. Like the fact that they are willing to 871 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 3: be villains again is crazy to me because obviously we 872 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 3: see Katie and Jen aren't there, and it's like that, 873 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 3: you know, like the the mean girl, like, oh we meet, 874 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 3: we got matching bracelets, like the Fox five stuff on 875 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 3: Very Little Hill? Is that what they were called? Fox five? Well? Yeah, 876 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 3: whatever the hell that was. That was so stupid. That 877 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 3: was the dumbest thing ever. And it's like, I feel 878 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 3: like that's kind of how they're going to enter the season, 879 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 3: is acting like they're that group, and it's like, hey, 880 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 3: you guys are going to come out on top, so 881 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 3: change your strategy seriously, I know. 882 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we see how. 883 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:54,280 Speaker 1: How far the Fox Force five relationship got in exactly. Guys, 884 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 1: Listen to me when I say the only real friendships 885 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: across all of the real housewives, and I've said this 886 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: once and I'll say it again, the only real friendships 887 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 1: is Alexis and Marisol from Miami and Giselle and Robin 888 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: from Potomac. 889 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 2: That's it. 890 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 4: And you know what, it's like they never fought and 891 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 4: like that's how you know. It's like they they'll fight 892 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 4: because like they're sisters, but they'll never like, you know, 893 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 4: betray them, like betray them. 894 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 3: Well, what about Gina and now they'll each other? 895 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: Listen, I love Listen. I'm gonna say this. I'm just 896 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:26,720 Speaker 1: being honest. 897 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,240 Speaker 2: With you. 898 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: If the cool girls out sit one of them to 899 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: the degree of like, because we all make mistakes. 900 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 2: So let me give you an example. 901 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: If Gina made a mistake that obviously we all feel like, okay, 902 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: that's the fucked up thing to do, Gina, and all 903 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 1: the girls out sit Gina. I promise you, Emily will 904 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: go with the cool girls. I promise you. It's just 905 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: to the point where they have to feel like this 906 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: is going to keep me my job and I have 907 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: to make sure that I choose my paycheck over my friendship. 908 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 3: Listen, there's a lot of pressure on them, and I 909 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 3: do feel bad for that. There is a lot of 910 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 3: pressure because they all want to come back the next 911 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 3: season and they're all, you know, really excited about the 912 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 3: money and now they're used to it, so there is 913 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 3: a lot of pressure. But maybe maybe there shouldn't be 914 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 3: as much pressure then, I don't know. I mean, you're 915 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 3: a producer, Like, what do you think about that? Because 916 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 3: I know that producers do sometimes pressure and be like 917 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 3: this is boring, come on, what are we gonna do? 918 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 3: What are we gonna do? And you're like so scared 919 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 3: that you're not going to make it to the next season. 920 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 3: So you're like, I'm about to, you know, act like 921 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 3: the biggest piece of shit for money. So what do 922 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 3: you what is your thoughts on that? 923 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's a good question. 924 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: The reason why I have great relationships with my girls 925 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: from Housewives is because I never I never produced that way. 926 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: I always follow the reality. So a good example would 927 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 1: be Ninia Cynthia. Right, they start off as friends and 928 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: then things went awry during season six when Peter and 929 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: Nini got into it New Mexico, where Nini called Peter 930 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: bitch and it sort of felt like, Okay, what is 931 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,479 Speaker 1: Cynthia supposed to do after that? When your best friend 932 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: calls her husband a bitch? And like, where do you 933 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: go from there? And Cynthia decided to, like, you know, 934 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: venture a little bit away and create a distance between. 935 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 2: Her and Nini, and Nini talked about that. 936 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,720 Speaker 1: Us producer, we were like, okay, talk about that, because 937 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: we want to be able to see you guys reconcile. 938 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 1: I love a reconciliation of friendship. I said this before. 939 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: I was very, very very adamant to Kenyan Phaedra, like, guys, 940 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: this shit is boring. You guys arguing about the same 941 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: thing on a hamster. Weell like, can you guys at 942 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: least address it to move on if you don't want 943 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: to be best friends, that's okay. I do think some 944 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: not all, but some of the newer producers who look 945 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: at social media, they do try to like create this 946 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: sort of like negative space when it comes to the friendships. 947 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: But that's why I appreciate Gazelle and Robin's friendship so much, 948 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: because even when Robin was read by all of us, 949 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: including social media, about how she handled the wand situation, 950 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:19,479 Speaker 1: I appreciate that Gizelle gave her a harsh reality check, 951 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 1: but never to the point where you felt like Gazelle 952 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: threw her under the bus. And that to me, that 953 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 1: to me is real friendships. And my last example would 954 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 1: be Teresa and Jacqueline. I did the first two seasons 955 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: of Jersey, so I was there when things were great. 956 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: But I remember Teresa calling me saying like I can't 957 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 1: believe me and Jacqueline are like about to have a 958 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: falling out. 959 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 2: And I said, oh no, no, you can't like. 960 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: Save it like that's your because I knew for. 961 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: A fact, like, no, Jacqueline loves you. 962 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: And maybe there's other things going on like whatever, And 963 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: that's why I'm happy they're back being friends, because you 964 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: gotta save the friendships and not try to tear them apart. 965 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, and I think that's what viewers want 966 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 3: to see. 967 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly. 968 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: So, oh my gosh, girls, I am obsessed with the 969 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: two of you. I said, I'll always welcome back to 970 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 1: the podcast and we can always dish and as we 971 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: sort of wait for another year to see Teresa and 972 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 1: Dolores's return. 973 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 2: See what I did. 974 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 1: There, you know, Yes, yes, I will bet the farm 975 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: on Teresa and Delora's attorney. But look, we will talk 976 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: about that when it happens and when it gets announced. 977 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, tell the rain drops where they 978 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 1: can follow you and support your chart topping successful podcast. 979 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can follow us on Instagram at All about 980 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 3: Tearage Podcast. We're also on x All about Tear Aage 981 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 3: and just on We're available on any podcast All about 982 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:05,720 Speaker 3: tear Age. So TikTok TikTok, wee hes if it doesn't 983 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 3: get banned. 984 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 2: So you'll see us there. 985 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 1: No, I will thank you ladies, happy holidays, and I'll 986 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 1: see y'all soon. 987 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 3: Thank you, bye, b. 988 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: Thank you. 989 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 2: For listening to Reality with the Kings. 990 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: New episodes drop on Tuesdays and Thursdays, Share, comment, follow, 991 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: and subscribe to Reality with the King. 992 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 2: Wherever you get your podcast. 993 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: Visit Reality withthe King dot com and be sure to 994 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 1: follow me at the Carlos King Underscore on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, 995 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 1: and Yes Baby, my YouTube channel where you can get 996 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: all of my visuals, Baby, my expressions, Yes, and don't forget. 997 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: Tweet me your thoughts and hot takes about this episode 998 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 1: using the hashtag Reality with the King. 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