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Speaker 1: this is Rashan McDonald and you're listening to Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: Each Money Making Conversation radio show podcast is about entrepreneurship

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Speaker 1: She's an actress, author, philanthropists and executive producer of Hallmark

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Speaker 1: Movies and mysteries A Family Christmas Gift. Please work with

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Speaker 1: But good morning, how are you doing? First of all,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're in California. No, I'm actually in New York.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, so you really perky for a reason. You

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Speaker 1: A Family Christmas Gift, which is going to premiere Mber

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Speaker 1: twenty two on Hallmark Moves in Mysteries nine pm Eastern

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Speaker 1: that I want to It was the one design care

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Speaker 1: Gaylor the Holly rod Foundation, hosted by you and your

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Speaker 1: this to get me bookings at other clubs. They went, oh, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: We've never had anybody to do this before. I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm this is how I've been trained from my BM.

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Speaker 1: You do a job, you give, evaluate, evaluated by, and

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Speaker 1: people will pay you based on your evaluation and just

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Speaker 1: hearing your logic. It's all in the same place. It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: me take this severance pay But you also know there's

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Speaker 1: no guaranteed. But you also know that hey, you you

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Speaker 1: where people start falling off. M Yeah, there's been so

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Speaker 1: many comics that I know that I've tried to transition,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, I knew I needed to be in someplace,

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Speaker 1: were like, well, you know, I saved up enough money

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Speaker 1: six months and I'm gonna make it. And it's like, dude,

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Speaker 1: I tell anybody, no matter what type of transition you're

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Speaker 1: And there's nothing I think people feel like, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: wrong to me. Nothing's wrong with having a security net.

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Speaker 1: I knew that if it didn't work, I could always

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Speaker 1: do something else. I could teach after that. And that's

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Speaker 1: another thing. And you have your plan, but also having

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Speaker 1: like a little backup plan. And the backup plan doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that you're gonna fails. To me, it's just something

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Speaker 1: in your subconscious that you know will be all right,

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Speaker 1: you know, instead of having nothing at all, you know

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Speaker 1: make this. I made it announcement in your credits about

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Speaker 1: hosting Essence music festivals called Essence Festival now and walking

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Speaker 1: your family members are question you will how are you

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Speaker 1: where's the regular check at Now? You you're leaving something

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Speaker 1: A lot of that doubt that they that they that

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Speaker 1: they sincerely, they're they're trying to act like they're sincere

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Speaker 1: and they're worrying and caring about you is their own

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Speaker 1: fear is that they don't believe that you can do

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Speaker 1: what you say you're out to do. UM. So I

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Speaker 1: That just doesn't come overnight. I've been in this for

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Speaker 1: And you stay true to who you are. Keep winning. Okay,

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Speaker 1: talk show. Podcast is about entrepreneurship and entertainment. I get

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Speaker 1: and how to lead a balanced life. And that's balance

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Speaker 1: maintaining time for yourself. That's really important in the whole

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Speaker 1: process of this. My next guy, I got two two

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Speaker 1: people on the phone, so you know I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: fun to a one male, one female. I know I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have fun because I got six sisters and two brothers,

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Speaker 1: so I'm used to talk to a bunch of people

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Speaker 1: at one time. My next guest. You can watch their

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Speaker 1: cooking show on the Aspired network. There there are their

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Speaker 1: creators of Butter and Brown. They showcase creative ways to

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Speaker 1: prepare fantastic food and tasty cocktails. That's that's the word

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Speaker 1: for drinks liquor. You know they drink and eat at

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Speaker 1: the same time with popular ingredients viewers are likely to

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Speaker 1: have on hand. Please walk for the money. Make conversations

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Speaker 1: first time the creators and hosts a budded Butter and Brown,

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Speaker 1: set Brundo and Leslie on too Off Good morning. Let's

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Speaker 1: got the last name right? That they get the last

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Speaker 1: name right, because I don't want to get you mad.

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Speaker 1: I've seen you on TV. I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: I get that right because you know you you're dealing

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Speaker 1: with knives. First of all, how did you two get together?

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Speaker 1: Lesson it, saith. Let's talk about the beginning. How did

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Speaker 1: you guys come together as a dynamic cooking duel? Sure, Um,

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Speaker 1: Seth and I both grew up in Los Angeles and

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Speaker 1: we also went away to college. I was to Howard

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Speaker 1: University in Sethman Tomorrow House Um and so right right, yes,

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Speaker 1: so Man in DC. Um and so when we were

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Speaker 1: when you leave away from home and you come back,

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Speaker 1: things are a little different and sometimes you you know,

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Speaker 1: you hang out with the new crowd. Um. And so

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Speaker 1: we were introduced to a mutual friend of ours and

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Speaker 1: we just kind of bonded over our love of you know, food, fashion.

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Speaker 1: We're both gone to black colleges, but we had a

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Speaker 1: lot in coming and we just you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: became friends fairly quickly. Okay said that was really short story,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I know she could talk, so can

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Speaker 1: you add some stuff that she missed out? Seth, please,

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Speaker 1: thank you, sir man. So um, we actually if you

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Speaker 1: don't know why, I don't know why she acted like

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Speaker 1: she can't talk on my show. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: footage on the floor where she just keeps talking and said,

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Speaker 1: I'll be looking at your brother. You know you look

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Speaker 1: you look at the screen sometime. Can I just say

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Speaker 1: three words? How are you? Can I say? She come

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Speaker 1: on my show? She gave us anopsis of one minute.

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Speaker 1: That's our whole relationship. He went right, what we had on. Well,

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Speaker 1: he want to know where we ate, So we we've

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Speaker 1: about that a little bit more so we met, we

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Speaker 1: actually met for the first time. We always tell people

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Speaker 1: this story. We met for the first time at a

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Speaker 1: taco Tuesday. L A and I don't remember that time,

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Speaker 1: but it was me in my full you know, twentysomething

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Speaker 1: year old um self. I used to walk around with

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Speaker 1: like a king's crown on. You know, my style has

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Speaker 1: always been like very bold, very bright, very buoyant. Um.

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Speaker 1: So she thought I was like obnoxious at first, um

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Speaker 1: and which I'm sure like it's not too far off

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Speaker 1: then the following time we met with that a mutual

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Speaker 1: a corner together, and you know, we were just vibing

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Speaker 1: on all of our life experiences and all of our

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Speaker 1: interests and things like that, you know, from food to

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Speaker 1: the only ones in our group of friends who attended HBCUs.

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Speaker 1: And from there we just hit it off. We were

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Speaker 1: you know, every other day. We were you know, going

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Speaker 1: to kickbacks when the parties hanging out, like we were

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Speaker 1: like family like instantly. Um So, you know from the

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Speaker 1: friendship grew you know this this amazing television show, um

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Speaker 1: everything happened was really naturally. Leslie and I are two

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Speaker 1: So when we would have these Friday night white and

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Speaker 1: Like I remember I was driving down the One Time Freeway.

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Speaker 1: and it was it was just a no brainer for um.

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Speaker 1: Um So, you know, like I don't think either one

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Speaker 1: of us ever considered that we would enjoy the success

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Speaker 1: you know, it was just something that was birth naturally

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Speaker 1: out of our friendship dynamics, out of our love for food,

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Speaker 1: out of our love for comedy. You know, if you've

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Speaker 1: watched Butter and Brown once or twice, you know that

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Speaker 1: we always infused sketch comedy into our show because that's

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Speaker 1: a very important aspect of our friends shop. We love

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Speaker 1: to laugh, you know, laughing at you right right right now,

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Speaker 1: right now, y'all silly. That's that's a couple. You know,

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Speaker 1: It's a big part of our friendship, and we really

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Speaker 1: wanted to you know, the other thing that we've that's

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Speaker 1: been validated by fans of the show is we really

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Speaker 1: wanted to create a cooking show that was for everybody.

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Speaker 1: You know, not everybody is a fan of cooking, especially

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Speaker 1: not everybody body is a fan of um cooking shows.

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Speaker 1: But we make the show that you know, people who

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Speaker 1: are not interested at all you want to watch because

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Speaker 1: it's just like hanging out with your friends and laughing,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and you have to get

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Speaker 1: like a cocktail and some good food. That's the key

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Speaker 1: because I watched a lot of shows of cooking shows,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you some people are always wanting

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Speaker 1: to do a cooking show of some making show. It's

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Speaker 1: a gift. And you too have that gift. In other words,

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Speaker 1: when you're cooking and you're and you're and you're making things,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's like an extension of your hand and

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Speaker 1: extension of your conversation. And that's what's jarvb or about

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Speaker 1: the whole process. When I watch YouTube are on TV

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Speaker 1: so effortless, and it's so and and and and the

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Speaker 1: fact of the matter, it's just like, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: like a brother and a sister in the kitchen together

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Speaker 1: to me, okay, and and and so and so and so,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who I'm gonna go per episode. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who I'm gonna get though, you know, because

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Speaker 1: you know, Leslie just don't know what to do with

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Speaker 1: her hair. Okay, yeah, you know she's a beautiful woman.

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Speaker 1: One day she got the hair down her back, next

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Speaker 1: thing is cut off. When that changes us up, so

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Speaker 1: that's pardon the next time you gotta have the beauty.

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Speaker 1: That's the beauty of black woman. I know, I know

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Speaker 1: that I got six sisters, I got sexcession can literally

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Speaker 1: do anything, literally, But that's a beauty of it. Though.

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Speaker 1: It's that, but it's never been done in the kitchen though,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen that. And this is this is a

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Speaker 1: good thing because that's a person reality, and I worries.

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Speaker 1: This is a very complimentary statement that I'm making to

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Speaker 1: both of you guys, like something, you have your little

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Speaker 1: hat on, you know, your little brim on. Who wears

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Speaker 1: a brom in the kitchen? Your boy, I'm saying, who

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Speaker 1: wears a broom in the kitchen? But you said you

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Speaker 1: the entertainer or somebody in the cooking you right, right,

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Speaker 1: right right? You know, we always I mean you just

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Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head. We always want to

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Speaker 1: give people something refreshing. If you turn on a butter

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Speaker 1: and brown week to week and you're get in the

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Speaker 1: same format, the same clothes, the same hair, the same

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Speaker 1: you know, instructions, the same ingredients and things like that,

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Speaker 1: like nobody's gonna want to watch after a couple of episodes.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's just very much the style stuff

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Speaker 1: is very much reflective. Again, like of our personalities about

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Speaker 1: them is really love fashion about stuff is really love

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Speaker 1: getting dressed and you know, buying new clothes and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. So it's it's absolutely an authentic reflection of us.

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Speaker 1: It's the beauty of our First of all, thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on my show, and thank you for a

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Speaker 1: lot of promote and just get a little background of

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Speaker 1: where I am. I am a foodie. I think are

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Speaker 1: Rushawn Each where I I promote popular restaurants that I

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Speaker 1: go in and die, I don't want to people recommend.

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Speaker 1: And I have a baker Spotlight website where I promote baking,

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Speaker 1: and then on my on my Facebook like eight hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand followers where I always promote good cooking, good good

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Speaker 1: recipes and if you don't mind, team I like, I

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Speaker 1: love this relationship I have created. I feel on the phone.

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Speaker 1: I love to promote some of your recipes and then

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Speaker 1: drive people to watch you on TV. If you go

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Speaker 1: to Rushane McDonald you'll see on Sunday, on Monday's, on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

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Speaker 1: I always promote food a miss everything else I do

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Speaker 1: motivational Mondays and my my podcast of course gets promoted.

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Speaker 1: But food Cares a lot of weight. Uh, I say

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Speaker 1: seventy of my followers or female okay and uh and

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Speaker 1: so I love the really help showcase and help build

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Speaker 1: that you guys have out there and drive traffic to

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Speaker 1: your TV network. That's my offer to you because I

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Speaker 1: feel that the kinship you like a little brothers and

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Speaker 1: little British sister to me on this phone today. I

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Speaker 1: just want to make sure that you'll understand who Sean is.

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Speaker 1: That's why I created money making Conversation. I got a

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Speaker 1: lot of cool tentacles that I've created over the years,

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Speaker 1: and that's just the general purpose. There's not no money

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Speaker 1: involved here, just about relationships. And I've been successful because

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Speaker 1: I understand the value of relationships. We love that. Love

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Speaker 1: love love that. Thank you. That's awesome. UM. You can

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Speaker 1: find all of our recipes actually the cider dot tv

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Speaker 1: on our page. We haven't populated them all just because

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Speaker 1: back to aspiring they're able to find them there. Absolutely absolutely,

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Speaker 1: you know, well you're well, that's the whole thing. That's

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Speaker 1: the whole thing, because I know that you know, you

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Speaker 1: I enjoy I actually enjoy watching you guys. That's why

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Speaker 1: But also I respect the talent the talents there. But

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Speaker 1: not find me here, find me on my social media,

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Speaker 1: not find me and find me on YouTube. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I created money making conversations. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: uh used little Saturday or Sunday, I post some food,

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Speaker 1: some food items. On Sunday, I'm always posted some fiature

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Speaker 1: to see new talent, brand new talent and like you too,

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Speaker 1: and be able to help new talent like you grow.

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Speaker 1: It's part of my dream, it's part of my process.

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Speaker 1: And I just wanted to let you know that. How

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Speaker 1: everybody know where they can find the television show so

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Speaker 1: you can find me at hot Mommy. That's my personal Instagram,

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Speaker 1: and my brand it's h A U T M O

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Speaker 1: listening to Money Making Conversations. I always tell everybody welcome,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Money Making Conversation. Each money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation radio talk show, our podcast is about entrepreneurship

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Speaker 1: and entertainment. I provide the consumer and business owner access

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Speaker 1: the CEO, celebrities, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. We in turn,

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Speaker 1: as guests on my show, delivered information about we're planning,

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Speaker 1: the motivation, financial literature, and how they leave a balanced

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Speaker 1: life which leads to the secrets to success. My next

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Speaker 1: guest is on the phone. I'm excited enjoy talking to

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Speaker 1: young entrepreneurs, you know. That's that's why I started to

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Speaker 1: show Money Making Conversations, not only just passing my advice

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Speaker 1: to young entrepreneurs, but people want to break into business

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Speaker 1: and get information. So I always tell people there is

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Speaker 1: not an age you should you should stop chasing your dreams,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people do put time limits on

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Speaker 1: would have. It's like what will I do? What? What

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Speaker 1: I want to do? Those are the sentences that lead

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Speaker 1: my life on a daily basis. By the time my

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Speaker 1: next guest was fourteen years old, he had a full beard.

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Speaker 1: The last time he was clean shaving was for high

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Speaker 1: school graduation. Today he is the CEO of Rugged Evolution

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Speaker 1: A Beard a Beard Carolina Products. Please welcome back to

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Speaker 1: money making conversation. Hadn't hadn't had him on in a

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Speaker 1: long time, very good friend of mine, Arrington Gavin a

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Speaker 1: long time time. But you still look good. You still

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Speaker 1: look good. Let's let's thank you. Let's talk about you know,

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Speaker 1: just talking about a little bit of personal experience, because

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Speaker 1: you know, we all know that. Uh you know when

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Speaker 1: when you when you look different and you talk different

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Speaker 1: and you act different, people tend to treat you different. Now,

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Speaker 1: in in my intro I talked about you had a

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Speaker 1: four teens? Were you tease by that when that was happening, No,

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Speaker 1: I was, it was Actually it made me more possible. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I mean man, So I enjoyed it. I loved it. Um.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day. I attended private school,

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Speaker 1: was a downfall, but I love it. Well, it's probably

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Speaker 1: good that you went to that type of school. Stopped

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Speaker 1: all the madness. That's fun. That's Fun's fun. So let's

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Speaker 1: let's let's talk about you know, being a person who

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Speaker 1: who got face your hair at such an early age.

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Speaker 1: What were the challenges for you or who did your

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Speaker 1: turn for advice or information at that at that state,

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Speaker 1: Even though you didn't carry your round because your your

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00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: school uh made you cut cut it you do you could,

851
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: you had to deal with the issues are shaving. I'm

852
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: much you're daily shaving or least shaving because over times

853
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: a week. How did you deal with that? And who

854
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: did you turn for advice? Well? I actually turned I

855
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: went to a Derman Talegest because I could never really shave.

856
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: I never used a straight razor on my face because

857
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: it used to irritate my skin, and that was a

858
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: reason why I went to the dermantlogist. So I went

859
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: to my Derman Talegest for the advice. Um also the

860
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: doctor's note to give to my school so I wouldn't

861
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: have to really shave too much. Just keep it a

862
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: little you know, closer, but you know, so they wonn't

863
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: really you know, notice it. But uh, the best that

864
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: would be the person who I I attend to for advice. First,

865
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: I had to go on the medical side. I'm like,

866
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: wait a minute, this is I don't want to continue

867
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: to you know, mess up my skin. So once uh,

868
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: once graduation came uh and I was I was a

869
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: freeman from high school. I embraced that here, I know,

870
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: because I have the same problem, Like if you put

871
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: a razor on my face, I would break out, you know.

872
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: I I used an electric raiser all my life, you know,

873
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: because that's the only way I can actually shave around

874
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: my neckline with which you know, when you have a beard,

875
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: that's where you shave, and that's where there's a general

876
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: tendency to bump up although your neckline and things of

877
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: that nature. So I know that I know you're having

878
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: to deal with That was a pretty frustrating period for

879
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: me to admit that this is how I have to

880
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: deal with my my hair facial hair conditions, because so

881
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: many people don't. They just look at facial hair and

882
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: think it's just a simple process, and it's really a

883
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: lot more complicated than that. Correct, Oh yeah, sir. And

884
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: on top of that, I'm still in the stage of

885
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: almost puberty. I mean fourteen, the ages were between maybe

886
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: elevenists to fourteen fifteen, So I have you know, had

887
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: acne also in high school. So with sad on the

888
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: top of this, I'm like, no, no, I can't, I

889
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: can't do this. I can I can't. I can't. Right,

890
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: And so so as you, as you, as you go

891
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: through life, you you you, you dealt with this through

892
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: high school. Now it's on the college and like, so

893
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: you have a full beard. When did the entrepreneurs side

894
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: of you started to develop out of this? Well? I

895
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: always as a kid watching my parents, who are both entrepreneurs,

896
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: I've always had that in my blood. Never knew what

897
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: journey was gonna take me. But fast forward once I'm

898
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: in college. Um, I had a beard. As a college sophomore,

899
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: had a beard. I love my beard, and I wanted to,

900
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, find out how much how how can I

901
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: maintain it? So I started purchasing a lot of beer

902
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: care products. Some were okay, a lot weren't okay. And um,

903
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm spending my money months to month on beercare products.

904
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: Money that was, that was that was my weekend money.

905
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: That was. That was my turn. I turned on money.

906
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: So I'm like, wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait

907
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: a minute. So I did my own research on various

908
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: essential oils, utters and all natural products. And I also

909
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: had you know, close excuse me close friends that were

910
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: new to the beard community, so they were kind of

911
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: like my testers. So I started to make, you know,

912
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: whip it up in the kitchen and um made it

913
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: for myself as well as my friends, and got great reviews.

914
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: And for me, I'm like, okay, I got great reviews. Okay,

915
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: that's good. That's that. Then I'm walking around campus. Uh

916
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, I look in all different directions north, south, east, west,

917
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: and I realized I'm looking at guys with beard, gotees mustaches.

918
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: So right then and there, I knew it was a

919
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: market for it. And that's pretty much where I said, okay,

920
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: let me write down my business plan. And from there

921
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: on until graduation came, I took the lease of faith

922
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: in Mons online store November of Wow. Congratulations, By the way,

923
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: first of all, let's let's let's go back to this.

924
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm in the kitchen, just whipping something up. I get

925
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: a lot of guests who come on my show with

926
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: that same philosopher, you know what, they because you know,

927
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: because your degree was in what your degree was h

928
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: what my degree was in health and wellness, health and

929
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: once I wanted to pursue athletic training. So I've always

930
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: had a passion for the human body. So I had

931
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: to take because I'm trying to I'm trying to get

932
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: to this, I'm trying to get to this part in

933
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: the kitchen, just whipping this up. You know what? You

934
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: know what, what were you whipping up? Man? Were you

935
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: I got me some baby all over here? I got

936
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: me some Jergins, I got me him. You know what

937
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: were you whipping up in the kitchen? Man? They got

938
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: to this point, not trying to give away your trade secrets,

939
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: but definitely just to say you whipped up something and

940
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: then you just slapped in on your face and you

941
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: started smile, and then everybody starts smiling with you. What

942
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: because it wasn't sticky? You know, you know, because I

943
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: use your product, it doesn't it's not sticky. It's you know,

944
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: it's shines and you know I can put things, you know,

945
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: it's really a really, really great product. So let's talk

946
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: about the early stages of you and in the kitchen

947
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: whipping stuff up. Okay, well, various butters and all that,

948
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: all natural essential oils. That's that's that was my main

949
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: ingrediments I was opening up. I can't you know, I

950
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: can't give any sense out, but uh, but things like

951
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: bees wax. I was researching things that were good for

952
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: hair textures and good for our skin. Make sure it

953
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: had all the right vitamins that can help nourish and

954
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: help help take care of our beers. Right now, let's

955
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: talk about your product. You have it. How could your

956
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: product help men in the bearded community, because you know,

957
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, James James Harden, you know it's really

958
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: NBA the beer, which I really I don't know that

959
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: excites you because that means the bears are being more

960
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: and more popular and the board beers are not just

961
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: tied to any particular ethnic group either, and so so

962
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: so the branding of the beer is just like Michael

963
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: Jordan's came along in the eighties and they made the

964
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: ball head popular, and now James Beard, James James Harden

965
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: is making the beer popular in the NBA and and

966
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: that that's hitting that millennial market share that you want,

967
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: because I always tell people you get your customers earlier

968
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: to stay with you forever. And so how would the

969
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: question back to us, how would your product help men

970
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: in the bear of the community. We'll help all around

971
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: first with cleansinginess. It will keep it nice and clean,

972
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: a great very moisturized and all around maintained because I

973
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 1: always tell people, remember, a clean beard is a healthy beard,

974
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 1: and that will that will prevent because our facial hair

975
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: is the magnetsu bacteria and greasely. You want to help

976
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: maintain that because if you don't, material will sometimes will

977
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: lead to irritation to the skin and might lead to infection.

978
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: And right, it's little things like that that that you

979
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: don't even realize they the overall. You know, if you're

980
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: lazy with you know, it can go back to your

981
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: facial hair. Just if you don't have facial hair, you know,

982
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: just not washing your face. Now you got hair on

983
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: the face, which means that's a double because you have

984
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: to worry about your skin drying underneath your beard. And

985
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: so talk about your product in general, how you you

986
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: know got I got because I've gotten several kids from you,

987
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: and I bought a couple of kids where they have

988
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: the brush, they have the comb, they have certain oils,

989
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: they have certain sometimes talk about the whole process of

990
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: putting together the brand. I'm talking to, Uh having excuse me.

991
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: Arrington Gavin, who's the CEO of Rugged Evolution, is a

992
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: bearded bearded hair Caroline and he were talking about the

993
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: whole process of in Seen, he launched an online store.

994
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: I am a user of his products. I'm a believer

995
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: of his products. Uh. If you go online, you see

996
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: the quality of the art work, You see the quality

997
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: of the website, which is always really key when people

998
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: launched their brands because that's the first line of experience.

999
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: When you start to put your brand out. How does

1000
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: it look online? How does it look on your smartphone?

1001
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: How does it look on your large scream laptop or desktop.

1002
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: So now we'ret the point now where you have a

1003
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: product out there, how do you start developing the lines

1004
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: within your product? Well, first, first what I did made

1005
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: sure I had my business plan out on paper, and

1006
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: then I h made sure that there first was a

1007
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: market for it. And this is this is all that

1008
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: for them. While I was in college, made sure it

1009
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: was a market spard then of course building on UH,

1010
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: building on a great excuse me, a marketing team that

1011
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: can help with the marketing and the finances. The H

1012
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: TO main companon on its incorporated and being trademarked UH,

1013
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: and the to the two different UH for anybody that's

1014
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: not too familiar with it. Being incorporated will help you

1015
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: in your state, They'll protect your name within your state.

1016
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: Being trademark will help you around the country. So that

1017
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: was my main focus as far as building building that

1018
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: brand UM. But but given building that side UH, as

1019
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: far as within my UH, within Rugged evolution, I wanted

1020
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: to first have the quota that UH you can whether

1021
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: you're a man of UH, whether you're a labor worker

1022
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: or work in corporate America, you can still be a

1023
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: man of distinction and rocket well groomed beers. Your brand

1024
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: can be built by itself. You know, it has to

1025
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 1: be UH. You know, it has to be the customers

1026
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: that you have, the employees that you bring on board,

1027
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: You're inner circle. They all have to think forward and

1028
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: be forward thinking about what you're trying to do with

1029
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: your brand. Again, I'm so happy for you. Samantha is

1030
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: gonna contact you. We're gonna do that Cyber Monday with

1031
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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald Cyber Monday. I want to drop yours right

1032
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1033
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1034
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Arrington Gavin, the CEO a Rugged Evolution Incorporated,

1035
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: My man again. Congratulations. Our relationship will continue to grow

1036
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1037
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