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Speaker 6: Stamp it maybe December twenty third, two days before Christmas,
Speaker 6: but I'm going to wish each of you a happy
Speaker 6: New Year. Thank you on this edition of mix Shots.
Speaker 1: Before Merry Christmas.
Speaker 4: Before Merry Christmas. It's happy New Year. The new year
Speaker 4: started about three thirty yesterday afternoon.
Speaker 6: And let me tell you, if this football team plays
Speaker 6: like they did on Sunday night, every single game, then
Speaker 6: no one should have any complaints.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: And if they continue, they may finish nine and eight.
Speaker 4: That's right. They might have the twentieth pick of the draft.
Speaker 1: I just want to point out that we may be
Speaker 1: the only ones that picked the game correctly.
Speaker 4: We almost got it exactly right.
Speaker 1: We had twenty seven four.
Speaker 3: And well, you know, I think we all go with
Speaker 3: the same thing. First of all, because we don't really
Speaker 3: score over twenty plus points. So that's why we always.
Speaker 5: Stay in that whole area. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But also the good thing defensively, we don't give up
Speaker 3: really more than twenty four to twenty five points in
Speaker 3: these last what five games?
Speaker 4: Yep, I saw one four out of five.
Speaker 1: As the game was progressing, I'm going.
Speaker 4: Four, it was gonna be it was gonna be hard
Speaker 4: to get to twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well if they quick kicking field goals scored me
Speaker 1: a touchdown.
Speaker 6: Once they got to twenty six, I figured they weren't
Speaker 6: getting to twenty seven.
Speaker 1: And I'll I think you're pick to click wins Duran Blend.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it took until the last play of the
Speaker 6: game basically, but.
Speaker 4: No, I know what you're where you're going.
Speaker 1: Mike Evans did not score a touchdown. He had like
Speaker 1: five catches for sixty yards. You could live with that,
Speaker 1: and he was predominantly following him.
Speaker 6: And he he didn't have a pick.
Speaker 1: He did not.
Speaker 4: He might as well have had.
Speaker 6: In the last play he picked the pocket.
Speaker 5: That was huge because.
Speaker 1: You know, almost as huge as Lewis's interception. How does
Speaker 1: he do that? Lewis?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was nice. Huh. I told you that's
Speaker 5: my stud, that's my guy. I'm sorry he is.
Speaker 3: You know, he's shown it all year long. I don't
Speaker 3: know why I didn't see it last year. I think
Speaker 3: because you know, our secondary was just so weird. But
Speaker 3: he has always shown that toughness and I kind of
Speaker 3: missed it last year.
Speaker 1: This year, well, he was back from that foot injury, remember.
Speaker 3: But you know he's shown toughness before that foot injury,
Speaker 3: and I missed it. And to see just how he's
Speaker 3: it's like he's mad at somebody out there. Really, he
Speaker 3: is upset at somebody doing the game. It's like he
Speaker 3: tries to find someone for his motivation, uh, to be
Speaker 3: to go all out and just try and embarrass.
Speaker 1: A week or two ago, someone asked him where he
Speaker 1: got that that attitude he plays with that fight he
Speaker 1: goes because I was always the smallest guy on the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and when you when you look at how he
Speaker 3: dopes not jump up.
Speaker 4: On all that guys.
Speaker 3: Sing his moments of short people. But uh no, I
Speaker 3: just enjoyed how he tracked the ball. He caught it
Speaker 3: quickly because at first he was just looking at the
Speaker 3: wide receiver. But once the ball, once he turned around,
Speaker 3: he immediately saw it and he saw it going into
Speaker 3: uh the receiver's hands, and he was not going to
Speaker 3: let him have it. I don't think he was really
Speaker 3: going for the interception, No he was. I think he
Speaker 3: was just going to strip it out.
Speaker 5: But there it is the ball.
Speaker 1: Jerry called it the best interception he's ever seen.
Speaker 5: A hell of an interception.
Speaker 6: And there may be another reason why he was he
Speaker 6: played like that this year because he's on a one
Speaker 6: year deal. Well, but no, he was on a three
Speaker 6: year I was just looking at his contract history. He
Speaker 6: was on a three year, thirteen and a half million
Speaker 6: dollar deal up until this year, averaging four and a
Speaker 6: half million a year, and then this year, on the
Speaker 6: heels of having the injury of year or so prior,
Speaker 6: his market was one year, two point eight million dollars,
Speaker 6: which is good money. But it's a one year deal
Speaker 6: at age twenty nine, and so he knows that that'll
Speaker 6: make you play when you have his years of service
Speaker 6: and what he means to the team, you'll play perturbed.
Speaker 5: And I think also.
Speaker 3: Because of how this defense has been going, I think
Speaker 3: he has seen it as an opportunity to be a leader,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 5: I don't think he just kind of stumbled into.
Speaker 3: This and I'm just playing hard, playing hard, and now
Speaker 3: I'm just going to make you play. I think by
Speaker 3: design he knows that he is one of the leaders
Speaker 3: on this team.
Speaker 1: But he's pretty outspoken to That's good.
Speaker 5: That's good he I think he has accepted that. Whether
Speaker 5: we want to call him a.
Speaker 3: Leader or not, he is a leader on this team.
Speaker 4: So there's another priority in the off Lewis side.
Speaker 1: There's a whole bunch of them to the side whoever
Speaker 1: else we've been. You know, he's kind of Golston's kind
Speaker 1: of in that boat where Dorin's Armstrong was this past year.
Speaker 6: Now he does well, he doesn't have the sack total
Speaker 6: right that Armstrong, But but what he's meant to this team,
Speaker 6: I mean he's not He's not a guy that's going
Speaker 6: to have eight sacks, but.
Speaker 5: He as a.
Speaker 1: Inside outside guy, versatility.
Speaker 5: The leaders full of them, and they need them.
Speaker 1: And it just showed this year that you need him. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's do this pull back the curtain. Did you
Speaker 1: watched the whole Washington Philadelphia game.
Speaker 4: I didn't watch the whole game, but I watched what
Speaker 4: I needed to watch, all.
Speaker 1: Right, And when it was over, your thoughts, I sa
Speaker 1: I was like, I think I'll just write my story
Speaker 1: for both.
Speaker 5: I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yesterday, just the way it turned out, I had.
Speaker 6: It on the whole time, and I wasn't focused on
Speaker 6: every play, but I was focused enough to know what happened,
Speaker 6: and I went straight to the gym.
Speaker 3: Think about it.
Speaker 1: They just need Philadelphia to do what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: They have been doing for tenth straight games.
Speaker 1: Like with nine minutes left in the first quarter, Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts goes out with a concussion, right, And I didn't
Speaker 1: realize this when Pickett came in that afterwards. I looked
Speaker 1: it up. He had only attempted three passes all year,
Speaker 1: he had only played seven snaps.
Speaker 3: Not surprised, And I'm going.
Speaker 1: You know them football CODs that have been punishing the
Speaker 1: Cowboys all year, here's another one.
Speaker 3: Which is gonna.
Speaker 5: A one that's exactly here.
Speaker 1: We go right here, and as Sweat goes.
Speaker 6: Out well and as greg Olsen in regards to the
Speaker 6: Hurts injury, as greg Olsen pointed out earlier in the game,
Speaker 6: the importance of Hurts on that offense. It's like every
Speaker 6: in the advantage he gives on that offense with the
Speaker 6: whole tush push and all that stuff. It's like first
Speaker 6: and nine instead of first and ten. Every time they
Speaker 6: have the football.
Speaker 1: And how many times did they end up in like
Speaker 1: third and short or fourth and short and they're trying to.
Speaker 4: Throw that's right now, totally different.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so that's why at the end of the
Speaker 6: game they have to kick field goals.
Speaker 4: Rather than run out the clock. Exactly at the end
Speaker 4: of the game.
Speaker 3: Is well, if you didn't know, he's extremely important.
Speaker 1: And then Slay goes out. Then Gardner Johnson gets a
Speaker 1: did for his second personal file and I'm going, this
Speaker 1: isn't this is unreal, this, this ain't happening, right.
Speaker 3: We saw, we saw it. We saw Philadelphia do something
Speaker 3: that we hadn't seen him do before. And that's just panic.
Speaker 3: They just, you know, they gave it up like we
Speaker 3: would give it.
Speaker 4: You know what I think happened.
Speaker 6: I think somebody told the Philadelphia team about midway the
Speaker 6: third quarter, they said, if you lose this game, the
Speaker 6: Cowboys will be eliminated for the playoffs, and so they
Speaker 6: they I just I think they decided they would rather
Speaker 6: that happen than them still be in the hunt for a.
Speaker 1: First round You think The take was on when DeVante
Speaker 1: Smith is going to catch a first down pass, maybe
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass to seal the game. Not only does
Speaker 1: he drop it, he drops it twice because he's gonna
Speaker 1: double clutch again.
Speaker 6: And some of the wide open receivers that the Commanders
Speaker 6: And I'm just sitting there going, someone's told the Eagles
Speaker 6: that this will eliminate the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It was just unbelievable.
Speaker 5: You think just made the call?
Speaker 6: It's right, Okay, Hey guys, I just found this out.
Speaker 6: I mean, we lose this game, the Cowboys are eliminated,
Speaker 6: and I'm.
Speaker 1: Just sitting going, we got to cover three more games.
Speaker 4: We got to cover.
Speaker 1: Talk three more weeks or three two more weeks against
Speaker 1: games that don't meant anything, all right?
Speaker 6: But but fast forward yes to eleven o'clock last night,
Speaker 6: and how did you feel about covering two more games?
Speaker 1: It was nine and eight, let's go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly right. I felt the same thing.
Speaker 3: You know what, I felt better just watching how they played. Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, that game is pretty much what I've been
Speaker 3: looking for with them. Not a lot of penalties offensively,
Speaker 3: didn't see a lot that really hurt us.
Speaker 5: In certain situations.
Speaker 3: We made some mistakes, but that the way we played
Speaker 3: as a unit, you know, defensively, we complimented our offense
Speaker 3: very well and vice versa. I really enjoy watching that game.
Speaker 5: Down to the end.
Speaker 3: It got kind of tight, but I still had a
Speaker 3: little confidence that will be okay.
Speaker 1: You know I had. I had Basically after watching that game,
Speaker 1: I said, well, this game doesn't matter. I had half
Speaker 1: my column written before the game started explaining everything, and
Speaker 1: then the way it turned out, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: throw that away. We got to start again because what
Speaker 1: they did. And by the way, you did you guys
Speaker 1: do a pregame show yesterday morning them, but not at
Speaker 1: the not at the stadium.
Speaker 4: Not the stadium. Now, when I.
Speaker 1: Drove into the stadium, I got there about three hours
Speaker 1: before kickoff, and there was no traffic, and I'm going,
Speaker 1: all these people they're not even covering down right, Well,
Speaker 1: the place filled up. They're getting ready for the kickoff,
Speaker 1: and all these people are up waving their towels and
Speaker 1: I'm going, don't they know what just happened? Right?
Speaker 4: What percentage do you think knew that they were eliminated?
Speaker 1: Have no idea?
Speaker 6: Maybe the thought occurred to me, I bet eighty percent
Speaker 6: of the fans in there had no clue.
Speaker 4: You think so, well, I know, Okay, this is the
Speaker 4: reason I say that.
Speaker 6: I know my daughter and her family were there, and
Speaker 6: I guarantee you nobody in that family knew or cared.
Speaker 6: They're just going for the experience and going to a game.
Speaker 6: We've got some other friends whose kids are at the game.
Speaker 6: Those kids don't care. They're just going for the experience
Speaker 6: of going to a game. They want to see their
Speaker 6: team win.
Speaker 5: That I think.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 6: We're in the minority here any people that are listening
Speaker 6: to these podcasts, okay, in that there are a bunch
Speaker 6: of fans who can't go on a regular basis, and
Speaker 6: they're casual fans. They liked the Cowboys, but they're casual fans.
Speaker 6: But when they go, they want to see their team
Speaker 6: win and it doesn't matter whether they're in the playoff
Speaker 6: hunt or not.
Speaker 3: Well, and I would agree with you on that, but
Speaker 3: I would say, and the based on the way you
Speaker 3: described it, these were not season ticket holders. These were
Speaker 3: the These are the people that you know fix my pool.
Speaker 6: And I and I know the five people or seven
Speaker 6: people that I just described.
Speaker 4: They are not season ticket overs.
Speaker 6: They got tickets from somebody else, and so they're going
Speaker 6: for they're going for a.
Speaker 3: Good time, for the value of the for the at
Speaker 3: and T Cowboy Spell.
Speaker 6: And the kids going remember that, like I remember going
Speaker 6: with my dad to go watch the.
Speaker 3: Still think that they knew what was going on.
Speaker 1: I still think and we can vouch for fifty people
Speaker 1: because after we finished our Star Sports Tour presentation, they
Speaker 1: all knew what was up. So there was fifty people
Speaker 1: there that by god, you.
Speaker 3: Say that for the most part, you're gonna you had casual,
Speaker 3: uh football fans.
Speaker 1: But they stayed to the end, and they gave that
Speaker 1: team a standing ovation at the end, and they were
Speaker 1: kneeling down good. It was unbelievable that that it turned
Speaker 1: out that way.
Speaker 6: So they weren't like a cynics who say, what about
Speaker 6: the draft.
Speaker 4: What about that top ten draft? Bell four spots in
Speaker 4: the draft.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I got the feeling that and I
Speaker 1: think they a long time. And you tell me, if
Speaker 1: if you're a player, you're not sitting there watching that
Speaker 1: game on pins and needles and getting emotional because you
Speaker 1: know you got to play and you don't want to
Speaker 1: waste your energy, right, So a lot of those guys.
Speaker 1: Like I talked to Cooper Bbie and I said, did
Speaker 1: you know what happened beforehand? And he goes, I found
Speaker 1: out on the bus ride in. So he didn't watch
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: I doctor Nick Vigil and was like, so what.
Speaker 3: Was the actually what happened to him? Where did he
Speaker 3: come from?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: That's reserving gazes.
Speaker 1: It was his third start in three years. Wow, and
Speaker 1: he had played He played sixty nine snaps in the game.
Speaker 1: I think he played maybe.
Speaker 5: All, but he was the leading tackler in the game.
Speaker 1: He had ten tackles.
Speaker 5: I thought I was like thirteen.
Speaker 1: So when I was looking, he had he had sixty
Speaker 1: nine or seventy two snaps prior to that. This year
Speaker 1: he had fifty I think it was fifty six total
Speaker 1: snaps in fourteen games. So he had thirteen more snaps
Speaker 1: than he had all seasons. Yeah, and played his ass off.
Speaker 6: He should, but in his career, I mean he's a
Speaker 6: former third round draft pick out of Utah State, and
Speaker 6: earlier in his career now in twenty three, he only
Speaker 6: played and blessed you eight games with Minnesota last year.
Speaker 6: He's now thirty one years old and four games two
Speaker 6: starts with Arizona and twenty two, so he's been battling
Speaker 6: injuries the last couple of years. Prior to that, he
Speaker 6: was a twelve game starter with Minnesota in twenty twenty
Speaker 6: one and with the Chargers for a year, and then
Speaker 6: he started his career with Cincinnati, where he made a
Speaker 6: total of thirty seven starts. Is for yeah, thirty seven
Speaker 6: starts his first four years in the league. So he's
Speaker 6: been a starter in this league and now he's now
Speaker 6: he's a journeyman, veteran guy. And he was signed because
Speaker 6: he was familiar had played for Zimmer in twenty twenty
Speaker 6: one in Minnesota. He's familiar with the system and in
Speaker 6: case Eric Kendricks ever went down with injuries, that he
Speaker 6: would be there in reserve, and they gave him a shot,
Speaker 6: and that's what he did.
Speaker 1: I mean you you basically, I'm not going to, you know,
Speaker 1: totally consider Lea File a backup linebacker, but in their
Speaker 1: nickel formation it was overshown. And now he's got a start.
Speaker 1: So you had two backups starting at linebacker, a backup
Speaker 1: at defensive end for sure, maybe the third backup or
Speaker 1: second back up, and then a back up at cornerback
Speaker 1: and then he goes out. Thank god, it was only
Speaker 1: one snap. When I saw Booth coming in, I'm going
Speaker 1: maybe they'll put C. J. Goodwin in. At least he
Speaker 1: knows what's going on.
Speaker 6: Right, Well, there was a wide open receiver on that play. Yes, yes,
Speaker 6: I didn't look to see who is at fault on it.
Speaker 6: But all I know is there was a wide There
Speaker 6: wasn't another defender in the vicinity like we always have.
Speaker 1: Actually, actually it was bland In Jordan Lewis on that side.
Speaker 1: Somebody was supposed to.
Speaker 3: Go, I need to stop to the middle because that
Speaker 3: was the same.
Speaker 1: Now this was the opposite. It was the slant guy
Speaker 1: that didn't get the sot guy didn't get covered, but
Speaker 1: they both were looking at the wide guy. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so all these guys, I don't think, and McCarthy did
Speaker 1: a good job I think of reading the room because
Speaker 1: he was asked, did you have to talk to the
Speaker 1: guys about Okay, we understand, he goes, I was watching
Speaker 1: and no one was talking about it because no one
Speaker 1: was saying anything. He goes, Now, there might have been
Speaker 1: one on one conversations about Washington winning and US being eliminated.
Speaker 1: He said, so I decided to just ghost. We're going
Speaker 1: to win, you know, we're going to play. And he
Speaker 1: said the only adjustment he made when they had their
Speaker 1: Friday or Saturday meeting on how they were going to
Speaker 1: conduct the game. They were going to defer if they
Speaker 1: won the coin toss, and he goes, when we want
Speaker 1: the coin toss? And I saw what was going on.
Speaker 1: I said, we're taking the ball, by God, Yes, take.
Speaker 5: The ball we talked about last night.
Speaker 1: Yes, and just drive down and get some momentum and
Speaker 1: get the miss going.
Speaker 6: Drive that thirty yards down the field field goal?
Speaker 1: By god? Is that guy unbelievable by the way.
Speaker 3: Whimps or something. Man, we're just trying to get three points, bro.
Speaker 3: He making it sound like we're just.
Speaker 5: You know, you know what.
Speaker 6: They had three They had three field goal drives in
Speaker 6: the first half that were all exactly thirty yards, and
Speaker 6: it was a fifty eight yarder or whatever, a forty
Speaker 6: something yarder, and then another.
Speaker 1: Forty nine yard of fifty that's.
Speaker 6: Right, and then another fifty eight yard thirty yards for
Speaker 6: some records.
Speaker 3: Think about that.
Speaker 1: He's turned in like the fifty yarders or the new forties.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's like he has I think as much
Speaker 3: of more than any other kicker a fifty plus yard.
Speaker 1: For a single season fourteen fourteen, So he now has
Speaker 1: the NFL.
Speaker 5: Record, he does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was thirteen Fairburn.
Speaker 5: Fair or wherever?
Speaker 1: How do you say fair Bear? Yeah, but it's brn Barn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had it at thirteen. So now he passed him
Speaker 1: with two games to go, right, But and he's another one.
Speaker 1: He he had a they gave him I guess it
Speaker 1: was NBC after the game. They gave him like a
Speaker 1: laminated ball. You know, I don't know if it said
Speaker 1: player of the Game or whatever, but he's got the ball.
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, you got one of those those
Speaker 1: ball I meant the fifty yarders. It was like, no,
Speaker 1: it was the after game ball. And he was putting
Speaker 1: in his backpack like this was a really big deal.
Speaker 5: It is. I mean, they gave it to him, but I.
Speaker 1: Don't know if they did it like a presentation on
Speaker 1: the field. But he was like he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: he goes, if we had to play a game, you're
Speaker 1: not going to go out there not try to win, right,
Speaker 1: And and that was the attitude through the whole bunch,
Speaker 1: And you know, God bless him, because I tell you
Speaker 1: I was down and out. I was just like, I
Speaker 1: started to text you guys and go, well, yep, it's
Speaker 1: been a good one.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 5: That's that's it.
Speaker 1: And and but they came out and played and well.
Speaker 6: Most of the guys playing in the game are playing
Speaker 6: for next year too.
Speaker 1: Oh exactly, you know that's why. And I heard it.
Speaker 1: I had to change the station. I heard it on
Speaker 1: the radio. Well, they're just messing up that draft choice,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's like, no, these are human beings
Speaker 1: you're dealing with. You're not dealing with trading stock, right.
Speaker 3: Well, there's no media looks at it sometimes as well.
Speaker 1: They're always the entertainers.
Speaker 6: Okay, next segment, we'll discuss more about the game, and
Speaker 6: at some point I want to pose the question who
Speaker 6: should be the starting quarterback again Philadelphia?
Speaker 4: Okay, because I've got it.
Speaker 6: I've got a thought on that, and we may do
Speaker 6: it in the last segment, because I know you got
Speaker 6: a notebook full of things from last night's game you
Speaker 6: want to get to probably first, but okay, mix shots
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Speaker 6: on Sunday. The game has been flexed to a noon
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Speaker 1: I gotta behave myself Slaturday.
Speaker 4: Right, it's an early call for you.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what happens. Yeah when they get to
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, all.
Speaker 6: Right, So where do you want to start on your
Speaker 6: legal pad?
Speaker 1: Trying to think of what I thought was important.
Speaker 3: Afterwards, I tell you what's important, and I guess we
Speaker 3: could have continued from the last segment. The team has
Speaker 3: not given up on themselves, right, that part right there,
Speaker 3: to me, that gives us the incentive. I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 3: just not about you know, let's go ahead, and you know,
Speaker 3: as we were going to talk about stop putting in
Speaker 3: some replacement players. I want us to ruin other people's chances.
Speaker 3: I want us to go in and say, Okay, this
Speaker 3: is a meaningful game to us.
Speaker 5: Whatever way you want.
Speaker 3: To think of it, it is meaningful even though it's
Speaker 3: not going to send us to the playoffs. It's meaningful
Speaker 3: because I want to stop them from beating us and
Speaker 3: for enjoying themselves again going to the playoffs. I want
Speaker 3: to be a factor for the end of this year.
Speaker 3: And if my team is playing for me the way
Speaker 3: this team is playing for their coach right now, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to interrupt that.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to interrupt that.
Speaker 3: If guys want to play for next year and another contract,
Speaker 3: that's great. Show me what you can do now, show
Speaker 3: somebody else what you can do now, but play for
Speaker 3: this team until this season's over.
Speaker 1: So I was gonna point this out. Bill's got his Oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't bring no, I don't have it. What did
Speaker 1: Washington and Philly do? There are two games they've played,
Speaker 1: all right, hold on, and I will let you know,
Speaker 1: because think about this.
Speaker 6: If Washington, Washington won yesterday, right.
Speaker 1: Would they do? That's what I meant the first time.
Speaker 6: Around and first time around, and Ganders they Philly won
Speaker 6: twenty six to nineteen the first time around twenty six
Speaker 6: eighteen on November fourteenth, So they have split.
Speaker 1: Okay, And if I can find this real quick, their
Speaker 1: division records right now, Philly's three and one in Washington's
Speaker 1: three and two. So I was thinking, if the Cowboys beat.
Speaker 6: Philadelphia, it would drop them to twelve and four overall.
Speaker 1: And Washington three two in the Atlanta they would move
Speaker 1: to eleven and five. They'd be one game back.
Speaker 4: Don't go there. You know who the Eagles play the
Speaker 4: last game?
Speaker 10: The Giants?
Speaker 6: The Giants, all right, looking at never mind, it's a
Speaker 6: good thought.
Speaker 1: It would be pretty cool, right.
Speaker 4: It's a good thought.
Speaker 1: So what would I was just thinking?
Speaker 6: So if they wound up, if the Eagles lost their
Speaker 6: last two, they could wind up twelve and five. And
Speaker 6: if Washington it's last two, you're suggesting the Cowboy should
Speaker 6: just throw that game just to screw the Eagles.
Speaker 4: Screwed them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get back at you.
Speaker 3: Wait, all those notes over there that you took, that's
Speaker 3: what you came up with?
Speaker 5: Occurred to me.
Speaker 6: It occurred to me, and that would in the division record.
Speaker 6: Then the Commanders would be would be four and two
Speaker 6: in the division and the Eagles would be three and three.
Speaker 6: So if that happened, Washington could win the NFC East
Speaker 6: get a home game, but the Giants had that the
Speaker 6: Giants would have to be.
Speaker 3: When would we know about Jalen Hurt's situation.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, a concussion protocol means a lot of times,
Speaker 6: it takes a week.
Speaker 5: You don't.
Speaker 6: So you're telling me there's a chance he was trying
Speaker 6: to jump back in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 11: See it when he was giving the three thumbs up
Speaker 11: like I'm good like and he's looking at his eyes,
Speaker 11: probably going no, you're not. You go back in the ten,
Speaker 11: because he went back in the second time, and that's
Speaker 11: when they they.
Speaker 3: And he's not a demonstrative person, so you know, you
Speaker 3: would think they were working through his favorite but obviously
Speaker 3: it didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what a crazy game that was. Barkley ran
Speaker 1: for one hundred and twenty three yards the first half,
Speaker 1: the first half.
Speaker 5: And I recall when he ran for that that yeah
Speaker 5: sixty eight.
Speaker 3: I was thinking, you know, they're really feeling good about themselves.
Speaker 5: Right now.
Speaker 3: But I could see that all going to hell. For
Speaker 3: some reason, they just seemed like they were a little
Speaker 3: bit too confident after he ran that touchdown, and I
Speaker 3: could see them losing that game, even with the efforts
Speaker 3: of Saquon Barkley. And sure enough, that's what happened.
Speaker 1: When when they converted, was it up fourth and eleven
Speaker 1: and Washington win for it and Daniels ran for twenty
Speaker 1: nine yards, I'm going, okay, this is about to change.
Speaker 1: And sure enough, because you can't get that turned the
Speaker 1: ball over six times in one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because he threw five toutdowns first time.
Speaker 1: Did you see that stat? No, that's that's the either
Speaker 1: the first time since or the most since Mark Ripping
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one for one of their quarterbacks to
Speaker 1: throw that many touchdown passes and.
Speaker 3: The first rookie quarterback to what for like.
Speaker 6: Comeback whatever it was, and it was five turnovers, five turn.
Speaker 5: Turnover five touchdowns. Yeah, but he was Yeah, he came.
Speaker 3: He's the first like rookie quarterback to come back, make
Speaker 3: two comebacks in the same season or something like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I think is happening with these quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that are scrambling and running. People are scared to hit
Speaker 1: them because they think they're gonna slide and we're gonna
Speaker 1: hit him late.
Speaker 3: Well that's fine, but that's fine when it comes to
Speaker 3: the offensive lineman and maybe I'm sorry the d lineman
Speaker 3: and the linebackers. But in the secondary, you got to
Speaker 3: stay with your man, right. That has never changed. You know,
Speaker 3: you practice that drill all the time. You have to
Speaker 3: stay with your man on the scramble. And the problem
Speaker 3: with it is it's like they're playing basketball. Bad dB
Speaker 3: is a lot like playing basketball, but the difference is
Speaker 3: when you're playing football, you have to also know where
Speaker 3: the damn football is.
Speaker 5: You can't just be in.
Speaker 3: The secondary looking at him, waiting on him to look. No,
Speaker 3: it's time for you also to figure out where that
Speaker 3: quarterback is and where the danger points are, especially priority wise,
Speaker 3: what's the most dangerous plays and throws that he can
Speaker 3: make on me right now? From whether he's here or
Speaker 3: whether he's scrambled all the way back over here. You
Speaker 3: have to change your approach on how you cover your man,
Speaker 3: but you still have to know where the quarterback is
Speaker 3: and they're not right.
Speaker 5: That's why it makes it looks.
Speaker 1: So good, all right, What was your question?
Speaker 4: You want to get to it now? Sure you want
Speaker 4: to go to a break and then come back with it.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's already.
Speaker 4: Let's uh okay, I'm going to pose the question.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: I'll wait until after the break before I asked the
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Speaker 6: Okay, I got two questions to pose in this final
Speaker 6: segment here. Okay, the first one which we don't need
Speaker 6: to spend a lot of time on, but I do
Speaker 6: want to know the answer to this Mickey. On the pregame,
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy told Brad Sham that Chuma Idoga and Tyler
Speaker 6: Geyton would split the reps at left tackle in the
Speaker 6: game and then and that Tyler had maybe his best
Speaker 6: week of practice.
Speaker 4: Okay, but he in.
Speaker 6: The game, Chuma had fifty three snaps and Tyler had
Speaker 6: seven snaps.
Speaker 4: What happened?
Speaker 1: Tuma started right.
Speaker 4: Tuma started and he was the.
Speaker 6: First possessions, yes, and then Guy was a three and
Speaker 6: out possession and uh, because I had to go back.
Speaker 4: I was so busy at work last night.
Speaker 6: I had to watch the game again after I got home,
Speaker 6: and I saw the possession in the first half when
Speaker 6: he went in.
Speaker 1: Oh, the third play, well, the first play was a
Speaker 1: false start by Steele one first in fifteen. Uh, they
Speaker 1: got a ten yard run, No, a dump off t
Speaker 1: Rico for ten. It was second and five at the
Speaker 1: twenty five and David Dighton just whift on him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it was a three yard loss of doubts. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 6: and then it was incomplete behind ferguson first play of
Speaker 6: the second quarter, and then next came back, came back
Speaker 6: the next possession whatever. I don't I'm not sure where
Speaker 6: God went back in for four snaps later.
Speaker 1: Where I don't know if I wrote it down seeing
Speaker 1: him in there or not.
Speaker 4: But they but okay, kind of changed.
Speaker 6: So there wasn't an injury involved in this with Guy,
Speaker 6: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: So do you think the thirty yards rushing had anything
Speaker 3: to do with Gen not coming back in?
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think. I mean, I don't pay any better.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, gotten seven snaps dog fifty three. They
Speaker 4: decided to.
Speaker 6: Go with idoga, and not like they they did a
Speaker 6: good job pass protection.
Speaker 3: They just did.
Speaker 1: You know what, Tampa Bay I think made the bet,
Speaker 1: you're not going to beat us running the ball. If
Speaker 1: you can beat us throwing it, so be it. Because
Speaker 1: they were they were all over the line of scrip.
Speaker 6: I think they did they didn't want to take a
Speaker 6: chance on making a change there because they were getting
Speaker 6: decent enough pass protection.
Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I think and I think
Speaker 1: use the long handed the Cowboys they were going to have.
Speaker 1: I mean, think of what they did the first three
Speaker 1: plays of the game, past, past, pass right. So he
Speaker 1: was thinking, Okay, I don't know how we're going to
Speaker 1: handle Vita Vea and they're crowd in the lineups.
Speaker 6: And before the game the coach doesn't know how his
Speaker 6: team's going to play, right, and so if Guyton was prepared,
Speaker 6: if the game flips and goes the other way, they
Speaker 6: might have split reps. But as it turned out, they were,
Speaker 6: they had the lead, they were things are going well,
Speaker 6: so why switch it up now?
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're five of their first six plays
Speaker 1: were passes right, six of their seventh plays were passing.
Speaker 3: Must have been on an extremely short leash. Yeah, for
Speaker 3: them to just say, okay, first drive, we didn't do
Speaker 3: much because he was practicing.
Speaker 4: I mean, and they do that by and of course
Speaker 4: they do that by series.
Speaker 6: And so Adoga went the first two which were uh,
Speaker 6: and then third series, Guidon came in, so Adoga came
Speaker 6: in for the fourth series, and then the fifth series
Speaker 6: was with four minutes left in the second quarter, and
Speaker 6: now you're getting into two minutes into the half.
Speaker 4: So anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 6: All right, Now, here's the other question I have, because
Speaker 6: the question is now going to be who should start
Speaker 6: at quarterback for the Cowboys at Philadelphia at noon Sunday.
Speaker 4: And then at home against Washington.
Speaker 6: My larger question that I have, and it relates to
Speaker 6: the last two games of this season. Who's going to
Speaker 6: be the backup quarterback for this team next year?
Speaker 1: And you can put that in that little bucket we
Speaker 1: have of priority signings.
Speaker 6: And are they having that conversation today because you've got
Speaker 6: two backup quarterbacks right now in Cooper Rush and Trey
Speaker 6: Lance that their contract is up, so a decision has
Speaker 6: to be made between now in March seventeenth or whatever,
Speaker 6: who your backup quarterback is going to be? And so
Speaker 6: if you have that conversation with the coaches, with the
Speaker 6: other part of this is who's going to be coaching
Speaker 6: the team, but you have if Jerry has this conversation
Speaker 6: with his coaches today, is that a question that he poses,
Speaker 6: who's going to be the starting quarterback next year? And
Speaker 6: how many starts does Cooper Rush have in his career?
Speaker 4: By ron A dozen?
Speaker 6: I haven't looked at up, but yeah, ten, twelve, whatever
Speaker 6: it is. Cooper Rush needs reps. Would you say, if
Speaker 6: he's going to be your backup quarterback next year, doesn't
Speaker 6: it behoove you to get him as much playing time
Speaker 6: as possible. If the same situation arises next year and
Speaker 6: you are actually in first place in your division and
Speaker 6: you need that quarterback to come in, I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's just well well to me with Cooper Rush as
Speaker 3: far as I'm concerned, if you want to keep him
Speaker 3: and get him his reps, he can get his reps
Speaker 3: next next training camp, you can get his reps next preseason.
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about Cooper Rush right now because he's
Speaker 3: doing pretty well. The fact that Cooper Rush is winning
Speaker 3: games for us again, even though it started off slowly,
Speaker 3: He's winning games for us again. If it wasn't for
Speaker 3: you know, what was going on with other teams, we
Speaker 3: could very well be talking about still got a chance
Speaker 3: to be in the playoffs. We could very well be
Speaker 3: still talking about that. With Cooper Rush doing a very
Speaker 3: decent job. I'm not putting a young boy in right now. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm just not putting him in. I'm just not putting
Speaker 3: him in. If once again, we can fight this out
Speaker 3: in training camp next year, if we don't already have
Speaker 3: an idea what we want to do, I'm worried about.
Speaker 3: First of all, I was starting quarterback. I don't know
Speaker 3: what the heck's going to be, what he's going to
Speaker 3: be like.
Speaker 6: And and that's the other thing is you need to
Speaker 6: have a dependable backup quarterback because now with Dak at
Speaker 6: his age, coming off Hamstream threejuries and if you look
Speaker 6: over the last three or four years, the number of
Speaker 6: injuries that he's had, number of games, injuries right that
Speaker 6: put him out for half a season or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Russia's thirteenth career.
Speaker 6: Thirteenth career start and so anyway, I mean the knee
Speaker 6: jerk is oh, play the young guy.
Speaker 4: Whatever. You also factor in you're going to Philadelphia.
Speaker 5: But I mean, to me, is playing right now?
Speaker 1: I don't think you throw him in there to say
Speaker 1: I want to see you kind of got to know
Speaker 1: after all this.
Speaker 3: I think they do know, right, That's the thing.
Speaker 1: They do know exactly, that's right.
Speaker 4: And I think they would have been working him in.
Speaker 3: If they would have seen that what you're doing and
Speaker 3: if they yeah, well he is is guiding right now
Speaker 3: because if you see in training camp in the preseason game,
Speaker 3: you know that was his chance to show what he
Speaker 3: could do, and he showed us just whether he is
Speaker 3: right now and I don't think we're again he was.
Speaker 3: We're not in the business of trying to develop him
Speaker 3: right now, not right now. We could if we're going
Speaker 3: to develop, and then we're gonna be we're gonna start
Speaker 3: in the off season if we're going to.
Speaker 1: Keep him, see it. And he's got no market values exactly,
Speaker 1: So if you want to resign him as the third
Speaker 1: guy again, okay, fine.
Speaker 6: And he's twenty four years old, which is the same
Speaker 6: age as Michael Pennix and Bo Nicks.
Speaker 4: Rookies.
Speaker 5: She's not too late for him. That's what that right.
Speaker 1: Wait, played well, didn't he Atlanta?
Speaker 5: He did?
Speaker 1: He did, He started his that was his first start, Penix.
Speaker 4: There were no touchdown passes. They had two pick sixes
Speaker 4: in that game. Will helped the.
Speaker 6: Matter, okay, and the one interception that he did have
Speaker 6: went right through the hands of Kyle Pitts down they
Speaker 6: go over.
Speaker 5: He did well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, exactly what you want him to do.
Speaker 6: Even though he didn't throw a touchdown pass, it's fine.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, if you think about it. So
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, Romo was out. He was hurt. They
Speaker 1: weren't sure of him the next year, and that's when
Speaker 1: they started Kellen Moore like maybe it was the last
Speaker 1: game of the season to see what he had, and
Speaker 1: it kind of convinced him that twenty sixteen he could
Speaker 1: be the backup quarterback, right, and then.
Speaker 4: Also convinced them they needed to draft a quarterback.
Speaker 6: And needed to draft a quarterback who turned out to
Speaker 6: be your starter for then.
Speaker 4: Eventually would become I has paid player at NFL.
Speaker 1: Kellen gets hurt with training camp. That gets hurt, I mean,
Speaker 1: uh more gets hurt in training camp, right, and then
Speaker 1: it's like, well, okay, I guess we got this guy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, uh yeah, I don't think it. I just
Speaker 1: don't see the value of experimenting.
Speaker 3: Well, now, others would say they want to qualify, they want.
Speaker 5: To see what he looks like.
Speaker 3: Play him now, since he has no value, right, that
Speaker 3: would be the account to your argument. He has he
Speaker 3: has no value because you won't play him, So why
Speaker 3: don't you play him and then find out what kind
Speaker 3: of value you can get for him, see if he
Speaker 3: can raise his value.
Speaker 6: Well, you're not getting anything for him because he's becoming
Speaker 6: a free agent, but you're just finding out what he's
Speaker 6: got and whether you want to resign him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, you remember what happened to you guys?
Speaker 1: Was it eighty six the last game of the season.
Speaker 1: I want to say they started, Oh I forgot his name.
Speaker 1: They started the quarterback from Southern Mississippi, Reggie Collier. I
Speaker 1: think he played two series that It was like, get
Speaker 1: him out of there. He doesn't even know the place.
Speaker 3: Tom never did try to coach him that well, he
Speaker 3: never tried to really, no, he didn't try to coach
Speaker 3: him because he has such athletic ability.
Speaker 1: Or maybe it wasn't eighty that that's eighty six was
Speaker 1: I forgot what year it was because I remember him
Speaker 1: playing in a Bowl game.
Speaker 6: Eighty Reggie Collier played started one game nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 1: It was eighty six, Okay.
Speaker 3: I think it was against the Bears or somebody.
Speaker 1: Last game of the season.
Speaker 6: The last game of the season was against the Bears.
Speaker 6: It was a twenty four to ten loss, and Reggie
Speaker 6: call Your went. Doug Flutie started for the Steve Palure
Speaker 6: went fourteen out of twenty eight. Reggie Caller four for
Speaker 6: nine for forty four yards and two interceptions.
Speaker 3: I don't know if somebody.
Speaker 1: Told me they had to help them with the play calls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if that's no. Tom never tried that.
Speaker 3: He never tried.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, that was the I don't think that was Tom.
Speaker 3: That was the icy Tom signing. It was just okay,
Speaker 3: and yeah, you can say what you want. Tom Lander
Speaker 3: used to try to make examples of certain situations.
Speaker 1: As most that he wasn't a favorite.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh, they just they just played better
Speaker 3: than us.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, your game plan was it was.
Speaker 6: Set up for that, and Caller may have this was
Speaker 6: the ice age where they we don't have the play
Speaker 6: by play uh on Pro Football Reference, but uh pore
Speaker 6: hit Mike Rentfro for the final touchdown of the game
Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter, which tells me, Reggie call, You're
Speaker 6: probably started that game through two picks.
Speaker 5: And then came oh, I thought you that. That's why
Speaker 5: I was just trying to confirm it. Yeah, so okay,
Speaker 5: when did it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: All right, well that does it for.
Speaker 6: We're back tomorrow, right tomorrow, y'all are y'all, y'all are
Speaker 6: back tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We're back tomorrow.
Speaker 4: You got the family excused absence?
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, so you you have an excuse.
Speaker 4: It is the only time my daughter can do it.
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Speaker 6: everyone else will see you tomorrow Christmas Eve Go Cowboys.
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