1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Every Thursday night 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: we bring you the General, John McClane. Is it the 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Saggy General tonight? Or are you staying dry? John? How 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm doing great. I spend four hours 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: in a store and then I was able to make 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: it home, and I hope everybody's safe, even though I 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: know most people aren't dry. It's just amazing the way 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: this happens to Houston, isn't it. It's incredible. I mean, 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: the storm. You want to talk about the scouting report 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: being inaccurate. This thing should be in Tulsa by now, 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: but it's hanging around, unwelcomed guests just sticking around and 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: dumping all sorts of rain on Houston. And it's a 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: we won't have to worry about home Sunday, that's right. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: Although John Harris tells me that we're talking about temperature 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: in the upper eighties for this one, so maybe all 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: that outdoor practice is going to be good for the Texans. 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: I think that if it's in opper eighties, it's still 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: la And I'm really fired up about seeing this stadium 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: and markup in my forty three years of covering the NFL, 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: I think that the smallest capacity I've seen was probably, oh, 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: fifty thousand, and now we've got twenty seven thousand, and 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: people talk about La. No, it's not in LA. It's Carson. 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: It's south of LA and I'm excited about seeing it. 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: I talked to Jilillade for a column I'm doing on 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: Friday about playing there, and he said, surprisingly, it's a 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: good atmosphere, fans are right on top of the players, 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: and of course there's gonna be a lot of traveling 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: Texans there. Well, I heard the media is gonna love 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: it more than just about any place they've been because 30 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: they're so close. And I think it'll be the smallest 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: crowd the Texans will have played in front of since 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game in two thousand and two. 33 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: That was Fawcett Stadium at the time and pretty small. So, oh, 34 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: you're right, I forgot all about the stadium in ken 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: That would be the smallest capacity I've seen. Yeah, but 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: those games don't count, so it's not the same kind 37 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: of deal. I mean. This is this is a team 38 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: that could potentially host a playoff game in that building, 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: which is amazing. But that's the way it isn't. John. 40 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to go historic right off the bat, 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: but I'm going to anyway. I wrote a piece about 42 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: the history between these two teams, and there's a lot 43 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: of history when you go back to the AFL because 44 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: the Chargers started in LA and they played the Oilers 45 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: in the very first AFL Championship game in Houston because 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: it was supposed to be in the Coliseum, but the 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: executives felt, hey, there's just too many empty seat possibility 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: shots and they didn't want to show those on TV, 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: so they moved it to Houston, and obviously the Oilers 50 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: wanted But man, what a history between these two franchises. 51 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: In the seventy nine game, I know you were a 52 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: part of that. They go away back, said Gilman was 53 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: the coach. Said Gilman eventually ended up with the Oilers 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: about eleven years later, had the worst team in the league, 55 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: made some trades, hired a former defensive coach at San 56 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: Diego named Phillips come in and turn around the franchise, 57 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: and that worked out quite well first time. Most people 58 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: had heard him Phillips around the country. No really well 59 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: down here, of course, because he coached so much of 60 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: his career in Southeast Texas and that great playoff win 61 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: in seventy nine over Dan Vouts and Eric cor Yale 62 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: when they were twenty point underdogs, or Old Campbell, Dan 63 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: Pastorini and Kenny Burrow were all out. That's still the 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: biggest upset I've ever seen. John AFC South tonight before 65 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: we get to the Texans situation. This is the immediate 66 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: NFL action to discuss the Titans and the Jaguars as 67 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: they will face off in North Florida. And just a 68 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: bizarre set of circumstances with Jacksonville. You know about the 69 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: backup quarterback he was just here, Gardner Minshew and the 70 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: jail and Ramsey story, all of the stuff hovering around Jacksonville. 71 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: Just a strange deal. And I thought it wasn't a 72 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: huge upset that the Cults beat the Titans in Nashville. 73 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: But I thought it wasn't upset considering everything they had 74 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: going on in Nashville prior to the game and coming 75 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: in riding high after a win over the Browns. Your 76 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: thoughts of the whole situation. That was a decisive win 77 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: over the Browns in Cleveland, and it was a day 78 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: in which the Jerseys were retired for two of the 79 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 1: greatest players en franchise history, Eddie George and Steve McNair. 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: Both of them started their careers with the Oilers here 81 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: and I thought they'd be a little more motivated and 82 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: they lost it. They've lost. Like I think, they're two 83 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: and sixteen against the Colts, Andrew Luck was eleven and 84 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: oh against the Titans. They just can't beat the Colts. 85 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: A game last year, last game in Nashville, Titans win, 86 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: They're in the playoffs. The Colts won decisively, and then 87 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: of course came here and beat the Texans, and you 88 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: think they would have had proper motivation to get a 89 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: little inge for that loss that kept them out of 90 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: the playoffs. But no, you know, they get beat and 91 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariot to play terrible. Everybody's clamoring for Ryan Tannehill. 92 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: And as far as the Jaguars, you know, they played 93 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: as well as they could play. Great play by Justin 94 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: Reed to stop Leonard Fournette on that two point conversion. 95 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: I thought menshow played very well for rookie making his 96 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: first start. And then Jalen Ramsey wants out. Everybody acts 97 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: like they're gonna trade accommodate him immediately. And boyd, if 98 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: these guys keep saying they want to be traded and 99 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: they get traded immediately, that's setting a bad president. If 100 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm Jacksonville, I'm keeping them. I'm saying, you just play 101 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: your tail off. We'll talk to you about an extension 102 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: after this season. And there's a good chance, of course 103 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: Doug Moron's going to be fired and maybe Tom Coughlin. 104 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: And I saw some report today Mark that said Ramsey's 105 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't have an issue with Morone, He's got it 106 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: with Conflint. If that's the case, then you know what 107 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: it's about. It's about money, money, money. Well he showed 108 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: up in a Brinks truck right to training camp, So 109 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: that's a little bit of a statement right there, a 110 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: little bit of a sign right there. All right, So, John, 111 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: the running game for the Texans, I think that other 112 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: than relative health here for the team, that is the 113 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: most positive development is that they can run the football, 114 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,559 Speaker 1: especially considering they just got these running backs. They didn't 115 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: begin camp with them, and with Hide they didn't even 116 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: happen for a preseason game. So I think that's a 117 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: pretty good development for this football team moving forward. One 118 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight yards of game five point eighty 119 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: carry one and fifty game five point eighty carry. And 120 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: let's be honest, offensive line has done a tremendous job 121 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: of run blocking in both games. When I go back 122 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: and watch them, I see holes. Carlos Hode's done well, 123 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: Johnson has done well. But I tell you what run 124 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: blocking is been good. Yeah, And I think that maybe 125 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: not a big enough deal has been made out of that. 126 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: But I get it. You only score thirteen points. They're 127 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: probably not going to do many national stories or whatever. 128 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 1: People still look at the sack totals, but what about 129 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: the improvement in the passing game? What are you see 130 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: in there or what are you hoping for there? As 131 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: they move into LA. It always bothers me when people 132 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: are going to be critical and then they don't try 133 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: to find out why something happen. In the last game. Clearly, 134 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson created two sacks. One when he had a 135 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: lot of time to throw, couldn't find a receiver, ran 136 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: out of bounds zero yards. But it's a sack. The 137 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: other time Nick Martin snapped it, he wasn't ready fell 138 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: on the ball. That's a sack. That's not poor pass protection. 139 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: I think Roderick Johnson gave up one on a blitz. 140 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: But on the other hand, it was tough because two 141 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: guys were coming. He had to pick one, and he 142 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: picked one that didn't get the quarterback. And so I 143 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: think the lines improve. I think it's gonna keep getting better. 144 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: The run blocking has been good from the get go. 145 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: Darren Fells has helped it, and I think it's gonna 146 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: keep getting better and better. The key is when are 147 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: we going to see the line with the same five 148 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: players two games in a row. Yeah, two games in 149 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: a row would be huge, and it sounds ridiculous to 150 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: say that, but it would be. At this point. They 151 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: need to get some continuity brewing there. Now the other 152 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: side of the football, john they did well against Fournette, obviously, 153 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: and you pointed out the goal line stand or the 154 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: two yards stop on the two point conversion. That was 155 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: good to see. Now they go to LA and face 156 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: the Chargers. What about matching up with this offense. Last 157 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: time they played the Chargers, Philip Rivers through three touchdown passes, 158 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: brock Oswylder through three interceptions, they got beat. Now they 159 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about Oswylder. I found a couple 160 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: of stats that were very interesting. Deshaun Watson did not 161 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: have a touchdown pass in the victory over Jacksonville. In 162 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: each of his first two seasons, he had one game 163 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: when he didn't have a touchdown pass. So that means 164 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: if that tradition continues, he's gonna throw a touchdown pass 165 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: in every game the rest of the year. People panicking 166 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: about J. J. Watt Waite hadn't had a sack in 167 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: the first two games since twenty fifteen. Last year, he 168 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: didn't have any in the first two games. He ended 169 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: up with sixteen, So everybody's worried about him needs to 170 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: take a chill pill. And I think they know what 171 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: they're up against. Philip Rivers. He's got his receivers, he's 172 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: got Keenan Allen, Mike Williams who played with Deshaun Watson. 173 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: He's got running back by committee. It's working well. And 174 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: of course their defense is good, their pass rush, they're 175 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: They're coming off as bad a game as you could play. Offensively. 176 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: The Chargers are in Detroit two touchdowns called back Rivers 177 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: thrown interception end zone when they're trying to win fumble 178 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: at the one yard line. You know the Texans would 179 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,599 Speaker 1: love for them to continue that kind of performance, but 180 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: go odds are marked. They got it out of their system. 181 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: Both teams, the Texans and the Chargers, have played two 182 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: close games and they're both one and one, and I 183 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: expect this will be more of than the same two 184 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: close games settled at the end. John Philip Rivers is 185 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: the last man standing from that two thousand and four 186 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: draft class when you have Roethlisberger and Eli Manning. Now 187 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: Manning could come back, Roethlisberger could come back. River is 188 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: still going. But I think it says a lot about 189 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: these guys. And then you're throwing Drew Brees from the 190 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: class of old one says a lot about these guys 191 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: that they've been playing for so long. Are we seeing 192 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: that change of the guard finally here at the quarterback position. 193 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: We have so many good young ones in the league, 194 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: and maybe some of the older guys are getting ready 195 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: to end their careers. Those old guys want to play 196 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: in the forties. One old guys playing in his forty 197 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: two and he's team is the best in the league 198 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: and breezes to be back. They say in November, he's 199 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: forty and we saw he played against the Texans not 200 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: going away soon. Riflesburger said he'll be back better than 201 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: ever next year. Eli Manning's in the last year of 202 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: his contract, so he's going to have a new zip 203 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: code next year. I think there's so much money to 204 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: be made. The rules are made to protect them. They're 205 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: in such better shape. I don't think these guys are 206 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: going away anytime soon. I think Philip Rivers will play 207 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: into his forties. Aaron Rodgers, but you do have my 208 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: Homes and Watson and Lamar Jackson and young quarterbacks stepping up, 209 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: and that they should. It's a passing era because of 210 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: the rules that they are today. You know when in 211 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: the seventies it is all about running backs, and in 212 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: this year, in this decade and moving forward, it's going 213 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: to be about the quarterback. There's some great ones, and 214 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: the Texans, of course, I'm glad they got theirs. John 215 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: before the season began, refresh my memory. Were you on Pittsburgh, 216 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland or Baltimore in the AFC North. I picked Cleveland. 217 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: I jumped on that band like everybody else, picked them 218 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: to win the division. And I picked Pittsburgh I think 219 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: to be a wild card. No, I did not I 220 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: had the Texans as a wild card, and I had 221 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: the Chargers as a wild card. Okay, Steelers now without 222 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, but the Ravens are off to a good start. However, 223 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: the degree of difficulty in competition doesn't appear to be 224 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: that high. Would the Texans like to play Miami in 225 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: Arizona in the first two games? And Lamar Jackson asked 226 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: from the ball very well, But everybody's acting like he's 227 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: the next My Homes. Let's see what he does in 228 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City against my Homes. Then if he continues to 229 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: play like that and he's hey, he's a legitimate big 230 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: time player already, as Patrick Mahomes is, as Deshaun Watson is. 231 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: I love watching these guys play, and to me, Lamar 232 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: Jackson being as accurate as he is throwing the ball 233 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: down the field is the biggest single story in the 234 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: league as far as players, not counting teams, but just play. 235 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: And I should say positive story, yeah, positive stories, because 236 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: the negative one is the Dolphins looking so horrible and 237 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: just trading away virtually everybody that's meaningful to them. Zavian 238 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: Howard's still there obviously, and the Jets not looking good. 239 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: Quarterback injuries have a great deal to do with that, 240 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: but just bizarre when you have a player with mono, 241 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: when does that happen? And then the backup Trevor Simeon 242 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: gets hurt in the Monday night game. You know, Adam 243 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: Gays hadn't reached out to the Brockster yet, and he 244 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: had him in Miami last year. He knows the system. 245 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: But I hope Oswalder is not waiting by his phone 246 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: because it's not raining from Adam Jays. Yeah, not exactly. 247 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 1: All right, John, what do you have going on to 248 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: the Chronicle? I am writing for Friday about Jalil Day 249 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: going back and playing for the team that cut him, 250 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: and what it was like playing for the San Diego 251 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: and now playing in Carson, and what it was like 252 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: for the team and the players, and how much they 253 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: respected him there. He was there leading to clearing the playoffs. 254 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: Last year, they cut him, they drafted in the Siratterly, 255 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: he's third team Derwin James, a great rookie. He's hurt, 256 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: so you know they wished they had Julilla die again. John, 257 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for joining us. Thank you very much. Mark. 258 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: Always fun to have the general line and the opening 259 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: segment on Thursday's one Gigantic Hot Read brought to you 260 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: by Geigo Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or 261 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: more on Carr and Shirts coming up, John Harris steps 262 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: into the studio while I want and complain about things 263 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: going on around the league, and he tries to set 264 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: me straight. Let's get into it on Texans Radio, trying 265 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: to stay dry here at NRG Stadium and the Hunday 266 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: Texans Radio studio across the hall from the locker room. 267 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermyer, John Harris with you all right, Johnny. We 268 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: had the general line a little abbreviated visit today because hey, 269 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: the media wasn't here today. They they didn't make it 270 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: in because the roads were pretty bad and understandably so. 271 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: And the assistant coaches, the coordinator conference calls were held 272 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: as ference calls instead of media gatherings in front of everybody. 273 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: So here we are. Although Tim Kelly said everyone was 274 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: focused and had good energy today, so that's positive. Well, 275 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: that's good. I mean, look, there's certain things that are 276 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: out of your They're out of your power in some sense. 277 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: You can't can't stop the rain. I mean you can 278 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: and I will say having just all afternoon, just refresh, refresh, refresh, 279 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: and it was counterproductive. There's nothing you can do. I mean, 280 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: we were inside, we're dry, we were okay. I keep 281 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: looking at that radar and this is the worst scouting 282 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: report I've ever seen. I mean, it's bad. It felt 283 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: like today. I remember before I went to bed last night, 284 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: I checked it again and it essentially was well the 285 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: final day, nothing much, but you know, keep an eye 286 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: on line, keep an eye on a line of these 287 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: storms that are coming from the northwest. And I was like, man, 288 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't seem right. That doesn't seem right. It didn't 289 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: seem right. This storm should have been in Tulsa twelve 290 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: hours ago. What it, dude, go back up and then 291 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: come back down. It was bizarre, got these weird bands 292 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: and moisture coming in from behind it. It was like, well, 293 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: this storm has fans, has clouds that really adore it 294 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: and are just sticking to it and continuing to rain. 295 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: It's been awful, and I hope I know that somebody 296 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: are affected by it. I mean, it's really turned into 297 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: something a lot greater than we ever anticipated, which Harvey 298 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: itself was. By the way, I remember a couple of 299 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: days before it hit was I don't know or three 300 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: days maybe I remember because we were on the broadcast 301 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: and talking about it with the ABC thirteen people and 302 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: we all thought, this is probably a lot of rain, 303 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: but not that much rain. And it obviously turned into 304 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: a big deal, a huge deal, maybe the biggest, one 305 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: of the biggest in the history of this city. So anyway, 306 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: they practiced, they're getting ready to go out to LA 307 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: and wait, by the way, weather report for La it's 308 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: gonna be pretty salty. Salty what do you mean by that? 309 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean I've seen La asighs eighty nine, Carson as 310 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: high as eighty s. But it's a dry yeah, I know, 311 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: to dry heat. But of all the weeks to have 312 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: this significant rain, the Texas could not get outside. I've 313 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: been saying that from the beginning, looking at the schedule, 314 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: the only outdoor game you have for a few weeks 315 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: is this one. You wanted to be able to get 316 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: out on your grass and work out on your grass 317 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: and work out outside and get a good sweat going outside, 318 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna get that, but you are going 319 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: to get one when you get to La. Now in 320 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: training camp, they know what it's all about you didn't 321 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: you didn't lose all of that, so you gotta go 322 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: out to LA and not making about the weather. But 323 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: I do remember when we went to New England in 324 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: week three of twenty seventeen. Yeah, that was hot. That 325 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: was really that's the hottest. I had been on the 326 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: sidelines for a game because obviously we play inside here 327 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 1: and we had not really had a game where we 328 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: started outside that in September where you really worry about it. 329 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: And then we went to New England. New England Week 330 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: three won't be that bad. We got on the turf 331 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, it's hot. It's the first time 332 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: I didn't wear I usually wear a pull over on 333 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: the sideline and I couldn't wear it. I was already 334 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: sweat and through all my stuff. Coach O'Brien was wearing 335 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: a T shirt, like kind of a dry fit shirt, 336 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: and you know he always has a pullover. I mean, 337 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: it was it was that. It was that steaming. So 338 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: that was week three, two years in a row in 339 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: New England sixteen and seventeen. Yep, weekend sixteen was the 340 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: Thursday night? Or was that cooler? Was that cool? It 341 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: was cooler? Yeah, it was cool. I don't remember it. 342 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: I remember I went for a run that morning of 343 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: that game and it was more than pleasant, more than pleasant. 344 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: But then last year when we started the year off, 345 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: it was like sixty five. It was actually sorted chilly 346 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: down on the sideline. It was kind of bizarre. New 347 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: England and September. You have no idea, LA can sometimes 348 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: be a mixed bag this time of year. I guess 349 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: you know you're in September still so, but Sonny and 350 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: eighty yeah, eighty something. I'll take it now. I've heard 351 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: Johnny that the stadium that we're gonna love it. You know, 352 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: we talked about it was McClean a little bit. Yes 353 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: that anybody who's in the media, fans going, well, think 354 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: about it. If you're actually lucky enough to be at 355 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: an NFL stadium, there you are. It's twenty seven thousand seats. 356 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: There's not a bad seat in the house. It's a 357 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: soccer stadium. I'm really eager to see it. I've heard 358 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: for broadcasters it is the best place to go because 359 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: it is close and you can hear stuff that you 360 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: wouldn't normally hear. It's not a roar, it's a cheer. 361 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: Although I like the roar, don't get me wrong, but 362 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: I want to hear our war roar. So on the road, 363 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: no roar is fine. I'm good. You know, if we 364 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: have even three thousand Texans fans there, they can make 365 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: a lot of noise. Yeah, that's don't make a lot 366 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: of noise anywhere. Actually, yeah, And I would imagine they'll 367 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: be some traveling Texans going to this game. I've only 368 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: been out to LA for regular season games one of 369 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: the time, that was two years ago, twenty seventeen to 370 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: take on the Rams, and those are dropping the bucket 371 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: in one hundred thousand seats stadium. This you get three 372 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: thousand and thirty five hundred traveling Texans out there. Yeah. 373 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: And by the way, I saw earlier in the week 374 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: somebody asked Drew about wearing colors and Drew was like, 375 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: all capital letters blue. I'm like, no, we're d Yeah, 376 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: well he wear red. See. He was literally answering and 377 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: not gen z literally definition, you know, like my kid 378 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: says literally and he doesn't. In fact, I mean literally 379 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: for literally everything he means figuratively says literally exactly. But 380 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: Drew is literally answering the question what color are they 381 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: wearing they wear blue on the road. I get it good, 382 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: the Texans wear blue. But the guy's asking the question 383 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: in order to find out what he should be wearing 384 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: as a fan. And the answer is all usually, unless 385 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: you're playing the Falcons on the road or the Cardinals, 386 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna wear the battle red as a traveling Texan. 387 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: And we were at food Ruckers the other night and 388 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: Deepie was backing up through like, Oh, he's just he's 389 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: answering the question. Yeah, I know he was answered the question, 390 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: but that the question had a lot of layers to it, 391 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: and the most important one was what jersey should I 392 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: bring to the game if I'm going out to LA 393 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: to watch the tests. And the answer is red. Red. 394 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: You gotta go with red because the Chargers have navy 395 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 1: blue in their history the Fouts era. By the way, 396 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: next segment we're talking about that. Okay, we're gonna go. 397 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna go the Vandamer Reality Tour in the world 398 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: of professional football for a little bit. Anyway, you gotta 399 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: wear a battle right if you're going to the game. 400 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: I know this doesn't apply to many people listening right now, 401 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: but we just thought we'd throw that out there. Johnny 402 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. So I was watching some game tape. I 403 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: was going full on John Harris here and watching some 404 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: game tape. And he can still zip the ball around 405 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: pretty darn well. And in fact, last week, you know, 406 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: I know he threw the pick at the end of 407 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: the game. But they had two missed field goals, they 408 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: had a fumble at the goal line, I mean the 409 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: goal line. If they're successful on two of those four 410 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: possessions and still miss a field goal, will have a turnover. 411 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: They're winning that game by at least a touchdown. So 412 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: what do you make of it? What do you make 413 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: of them? It's hard because it feels like the Chargers 414 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: are kind of that team that you never know what 415 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna get, and they're the proverbio forrest Gump box 416 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: of chocolates. You have no idea what's going to happen 417 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: with them, because they can go to Kansas City on 418 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: a Thursday night on a short week, go for two 419 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: points and beat them twenty nine twenty eight. Same team 420 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: could lose to the Cleveland Browns a couple of years 421 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: ago when the Browns were one in fifteen and the 422 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: Charges were the one, and you just you just never know. 423 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: And I find it baffling because Philip Rivers is a 424 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: guy no first preparation, known for his consistency as a quarterback, 425 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: seemingly and yet there they can be kind of all 426 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: over the place, and that that's scary because they've got 427 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: a lot of talent. Now, they've got a lot of 428 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: talent missing in this game. Left tackle Russell Okum is 429 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: not gonna play Melvin Gordon unless something happens at the 430 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: twenty twenty third hour. He's out. Now. That doesn't change 431 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: what they've got with Aust Eckler and Justin Jackson. They're 432 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: pretty good running back duo. But you're without Russell Okung, 433 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: you're OFTENSI live was not that great to begin with. 434 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: You got Mike pouncing and a bunch of guys, so 435 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: you've got an opportunity there. Now. The receivers are very good, 436 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: but if you're getting pressure, then you've got decent opportunity 437 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: in this one. And on the defensive side, you can't 438 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: let Boson Ingram rerect the game. That's clear, and Bill 439 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: Abron talks about that all the time. We talked with 440 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: Bill about that. Don't let those guys, he said, don't 441 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: let von Miller wreck the game. Don't let Khalil mac 442 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: wreck the game. Don't let Boson Ingram reck the game. 443 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: So they've got to handle those guys. But they're given 444 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: up nearly one hundred fifty yards on the ground and 445 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: the Cult gashed them for two hundred and three. So 446 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: they shorted up a little bit last week against Detroit. 447 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: But you keep pounding the rock, pounding the rock, you're 448 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: gonna have some inexperience at safety. Think about this way, Derwin, James, 449 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: Adrian Phillips, Jalilla Die. Where they're three starting safe. They're 450 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: three main safeties last year, two starters, and then you know, 451 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: depending on what they were starting in they almost all 452 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: three of them starting the playoff game. Right, those those 453 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: are three guys were starters. James I. Rum, Adrian Phillips 454 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: just got put on IR and Jalia Dies playing for US. 455 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: So they could potentially have an undrafted rookie starting Roger 456 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: Teamer at safety. Sign me up for that. And the 457 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: corner opposite Casey Hayward. It could be Branded Facon who 458 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: got picked on the last couple of weeks. It could 459 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: be Michael Scott. Well, the best thing you said in 460 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: all of that was running the football, and I'll give 461 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: you another one opponent quarterback rating one hundred. So I 462 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: like that. I always look at that number and say, okay, 463 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: opponents are completing seventy five percent of their passes against 464 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: the Chargers. So, you know, it reminds me of the 465 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: Eagles the Eagles last year because the Eagles had such 466 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: a great front seven, especially the front four, but the 467 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: secondary everybody was banged up, everybody was out, and teams 468 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: were just picking on the secondary. So from that perspective, 469 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: kind of remind me the Eagles a little bit because 470 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: the front's pretty good now. Linebacker wise, they've got some 471 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: some inexperience, but Denzel Perraman should be back a little bit. 472 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: But the secondary is just beat to you know what, 473 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: and that that was the way the Eagles were last year. 474 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: And we had a lot of success throwing the ball 475 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: against the Eagles, and so hopefully we're able to do that. 476 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: But I don't know that this offense we're facing definitely 477 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: does not have the offensive line the Eagles have. They 478 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: don't have Sprolls, and I don't know that receiver wise, 479 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: that it's all the way there. They do have Keen Allen, 480 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: and that's a really matchup. He is tremendous coming up 481 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 1: your thoughts on tonight's matchup, plus my thoughts on this 482 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: week's opponent. And you know, a certain era of their 483 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: history is a major reason why I fell in love 484 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: with professional football, so we'll discuss that among other things. 485 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: And the fact that the Texans score two or more 486 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: touchdowns in the game is big. They weren't able to 487 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: do it last Sunday, but when they do it, you 488 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: head to your closest jack in the box the next 489 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: day for your free Texans jumbo jack with a large 490 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: Drake purchase. Just hit him up for that. Let's hope 491 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: they get two or more touchdowns on Sunday, many many touchdowns. 492 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio keeping your company. It's Thursday night and 493 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: we're trying to stay dry here in the Hunday Texans 494 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: Radio studio. We hope you're safe. I know a lot 495 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: of people are dealing with a lot of problems right now. 496 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: Hopefully we can be a diversion, keep you some company 497 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: here leading you into the Titans and the Jaguars tonight. 498 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermarin, John Harris here in the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. Okay, 499 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 1: so you have the Jaguars playing tonight with Jalen Ramsey presumably, 500 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: and the Titans coming off the stinging loss to the Colts. 501 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: We talked about it with the general earlier, how they 502 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: just can't seem to beat Indian no matter what the 503 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: situation is, and the Jaguars their nemesis, the Titans in town. Here, 504 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: this is going to be interesting tonight. This is a 505 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: circle of wagons game for the Jags, if there is 506 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: such a thing. Yeah, circle wagons. Texans fans should root 507 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: for Jacksonville, right, Yeah? I think so. I had a 508 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: hard time last week with Colts Titans. I was like, 509 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: I never really came to grips with who I wanted 510 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: to win. Yeah, I know, you just take it and 511 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: then later on root for the other team or whatever, yeah, 512 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: or whoever you need. Yeah, but too early really for 513 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: all this. But we kind of play the game, don't we. 514 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: It would be nice because I mean, the best, the 515 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: best case scenario would be Jags win, knocked the Titans 516 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: to one and two. Jags go to one and two, 517 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: but they go to one and two. Everybody goes to 518 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: one in two or those two go to one and two, 519 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: and the Falcons beat the Cults on Sunday. Falcons beat 520 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: the Colts, and that gives you some insurance, so you 521 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: could end up with a one in two division. Everybody 522 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,239 Speaker 1: one in two. Yeah, boy, that's gonna look ugly. It is, 523 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: But I will stand by this. It's a tougher than 524 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: you think division. As I say that, then you're gonna 525 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: lose to the Falcons at home. Really Colts, well, I 526 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: think the Colts. I mean, look, the Falcons beat the 527 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: Eagles the other night and Sunday night television and Sunday Football. 528 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the Falcons have got some That game could 529 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: have easily gone either way. There was a time there 530 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter where I said, oh, the Eagles 531 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: have this. But that Julio Jones catching run, my goodness, 532 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: was tremendous. I mean, great black by Jake Matthews on 533 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: the tunnel screen and he flattened the guy. I mean 534 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: it was it was he did. Uh of the lineman 535 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: just went crazy when they saw that, as well they should. 536 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: When you see one of your own go out there 537 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: and pancake and guy like that, it springs Julio. But 538 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: can I go bitter here? Sure? Can? I'd be bitter. Mark. 539 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: Of course Mark is bitter. I'm going third person here 540 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: about the Patriots living in the AFC East, where they 541 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: have for a decade and a half, where every other 542 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: team preach is under five hundred overall during the Brady 543 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: Belichick era, not just in the division. So yeah, the 544 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: Patriots have something to do with it, but overall, Jets, Dolphins, 545 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: Buffalo all under five hundred individually collectively, no matter how 546 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: you slice it. Now, good for the Bills to be 547 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: off to a two and other start, but the Patriots 548 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: have four free wins there with the Jets twice and 549 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: the Dolphins twice. Maybe the Jets can be a little 550 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: bit better whence Donald gets over Mono and gets back 551 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: in action. But the Jets will be in New England 552 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: this weekend and the Patriots are favored by seventy five 553 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: points or something like that. Now, the good news in 554 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: the a FC East is maybe there's something bruining Buffalo. 555 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go over the top because the Bills 556 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 1: did come from behind to meet the Jets with Darnald 557 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: and then they put a pretty good spanking on the Giants. 558 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: So the Giants are abysmal, but they got two wins 559 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: in the Metal lands on the road. They go two 560 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: and on the road. But the second year quarterback, how 561 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: about that, you're two and on something on the road. 562 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: We saw that defense last year. Yeah, they're pretty good. 563 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: They're a really good defense. And I think Josh is 564 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: still Josh Allen. Quarterbacks still got a little ways to go. 565 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: But I texted Sala Salar report of Sacapaccio. He and 566 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: I've got the nor each other. And I watched that 567 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: Bills the end of the Bills Jets game, and Josh 568 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: Allen brought him back. They were down sixteen to three. 569 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: He brought him back two touchdowns through one to Smoke 570 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: Brown and then got one in the end zone at 571 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: the end. And I just said, you know, Josh Allen 572 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: isn't pretty. But they're finding a way now. They're not 573 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots. But if the Bills can just get to 574 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: a point where going into Buffalo for New England gets 575 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: to be tough, that I'd be Awesome'd be awesome. What's 576 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: not awesome, though, is the fact that the Dolphins finished 577 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: second in the division last year. Yeah, and who finished 578 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: second in art division? Colts? So the Colts get essentially 579 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: a free win against the Dagum Dolphins, and we were 580 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: counting on them going into Pittsburgh and having to deal 581 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: with Roethlisberger and how they have to deal with Mason Rudolph. Right, 582 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: and well, if there's any good news in that, it's 583 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: like and Drew Brees is out, but they don't play 584 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: Drew Brees ntil late in year and also the Titans 585 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: don't play them to late in the years. So only 586 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: one team will catch the Saints, presumably without Drew Brees, 587 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: and that's the Jackson. So here's my here's my perfect 588 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: scenario this weekend. My perfect scenario. Jags win, right, yeah, 589 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: ugly seven six, yeah, whatever, Jags win Friday. Jalen Ramsey's 590 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: traded to Philly, Seattle, Minnesota, any of those. But the 591 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: word is Kansas City. I don't. I don't like the word. Yeah, 592 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to like, well, that's that's 593 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: a word I read. I don't want I don't want to. 594 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't like that word. I don't want that to 595 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: NFC please na, Yeah, the least going nuts right now 596 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: with all this stuff. This is a weird time, really, 597 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: is it it. I've seen, you know, some people say 598 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: it's you know, the NBA come to the NFL sort 599 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: of thing, and I mean, I guess, I think, I 600 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: think stuff is also a lot of free agent movements 601 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: right right, and this it's it's been different. I mean, 602 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: obviously Antonio Brown's thing is just a whole different Yeah, 603 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: that's a whole different stratosphere. But you know, Jalen, Jalen 604 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: said something in his press conference, and I listened to 605 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: the whole thing, and if you do listen to it, 606 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: by the way, if you don't like bad language, then 607 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: don't listen. Don't listen because Jalen live is all the 608 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: way live, and he's but I loved I loved Jalen. 609 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: He just you know who he is, you know what 610 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: he is, and he balls he balls out. I don't. 611 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, so Jalen said, and he was very demonstrave 612 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: about this. He said, we told the team we did 613 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: not want this to get it out. We told the 614 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: team we did not want this to get out, which 615 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: made me think, are there other players that have done 616 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: that and asked for a trade or asked to be 617 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: moved and it never gets out and it never gets 618 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: out and nobody and nobody does. So well, well, let's 619 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: just put it this way. I think a lot of 620 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: NFL leagues are agents, and look if they told the team. 621 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: If the agent is part of telling the team not 622 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: to let it get out, I'll take the agent's word 623 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: for it or Jalen's word for it. But often members 624 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 1: within an organization might be a league as well. You know, 625 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: it's not just the GM who might know about it. 626 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: It's other people, right, and they leak it out. So 627 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: who knows how this all caught out? Anyway, The Jags Titans, 628 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 1: they'll get together tonight Thursday Night Football. A lot of 629 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: weird stuff going on in the NFL at this time 630 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: of year. It's so early it's hard to draw conclusions 631 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: about anything. I will say this though, I am excited 632 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: about seeing the Chargers and the Texans get it on 633 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: in l And you know, I brought it up with 634 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: the general nineteen sixty AFL Championship Chargers and Oilers. Oilers 635 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: won that game and then were the larger They were 636 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: the LA Chargers for the first year of existence before 637 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: moving to San Diego. Now, Johnny, I know that McLean 638 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: and everybody in Houston always talks about that seventy nine 639 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: Divisional playoff game with the Oilers and everybody banged up 640 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: and going into San Diego and Vernon Perry intercepting Dan 641 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: Fouts four times. But I gotta tell you, I became 642 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: a fan of professional football in the early eighties, and 643 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: the team that caught my fancy more than any other 644 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: because I would watch all the squads and I really 645 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: didn't have a dog in any fight. You know. I 646 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: was going to school in Boston, but the Patriots were 647 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: terrible and I didn't care. And the team that really 648 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: caught my fancy was the San Diego Superchargers. I'm telling you, 649 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: Dan Fouts, Kellen Winslow, Chuck Mutzie, James Brooks, Weston Chandler, 650 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: earlier John Jefferson, but by the time I got into them, 651 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: it was west Chandler, Charlie Joyner. They were fun to watch. 652 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: You know. Fast was the first quarterback in the NFL 653 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: there really routinely put up three hundred yard games. Yeah, 654 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: I mean at one point he went four consecutive three 655 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: hundred yard games. At the time, that was are you kidding? 656 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: This is insane? What is happening to our league? They're 657 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: going nuts? And the rules had changed, you know, at 658 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, it was that the year It was 659 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: seventy years so he used to be able to basically 660 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: tackle a receiver anytime you wanted or something like that. 661 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: They called them mel Blunt rule because mel Blunt was 662 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 1: such a physical specimen at six two to ten playing corner. 663 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: He would just mall guys at the line of streamers 664 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: and were like, whoa, whoa, whoa we gotta And ironically, 665 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: what team did that help? More Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh opened 666 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: up their passing game to Lyn Swann and John Stalworth 667 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: in seventy eight and beyond, so it actually helped Pittsburgh. 668 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: But it was Don Corriell coming in and bringing air 669 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: corrielle as they called it, and it was. It was revolutionary. 670 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: I remember as a kid watching it just thinking, Wow, 671 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: they're fun to watch. I mean, Luca, this guy making 672 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: one hand catches. I mean, John Jefferson was one of 673 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: my favorite receivers to watch. And then he was holding 674 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: out for a contract later became a Packer right exactly. 675 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. I was lying on the couch and 676 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: they I wanted to say. They announced them Monday at 677 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: football and said John Jefferson has been traded the Packers 678 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: and I went Bizerk that had James Lofton. They now 679 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: had John Jefferson, had tight End Buddy and Paul Coffin 680 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: and Lynde Dickey. That offense could score some points. Oh yeah, 681 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: couldn't stop anybody, but that oftenest eventually, But that was 682 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: it was bart Star up until Bart Star. That might 683 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: have been Bart coaching those teams up until I think 684 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: eighty forty five, and then I think Lindi and Fante 685 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: took over for a little bit. Um, I think Forrest Gregg, 686 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: then Lindy and Fante. Uh, and then Mike Holman came 687 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: after that and obviously turned the whole thing around with 688 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: Brett fa Corell. By the way, I gotta look this, 689 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: but he might be. He's certainly one of the only, 690 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: if not the only, coach to win one hundred games 691 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: plus at the college level and one hundred games plus 692 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 1: at the pro level because he was Saint Louis Cardinals. 693 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: That's right, folks, that's right. Children. The Cardinals once played 694 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis in the NFL, and he was the Chargers, 695 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: and he was also at San Diego State before that. Yeah, 696 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: I mean that's awesome. I always love seeing guys. You know, 697 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: like Jack Party went from University Houston to the Houston Cougars, 698 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: and you know, uh, Don Krio go from San Diego 699 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: State eventually to San Diego Chargers. I mean, I thought 700 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: that was awesome. I hated the fact that they never 701 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: got to the Super Bowl won a Super Bowl because 702 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people that invalidated 703 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: in some sense Dan Fouts's career and that those Chargers 704 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: teams and Don Corrielle, because well they didn't when the AFC, 705 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: they didn't even get to the super Bowl. They went. 706 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: They went to two AFC Championship games. It's funny because 707 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: the Oilers go in seventy eight, seventy nine, and then 708 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: the Chargers go in eighty and eighty one and then 709 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: Divisional around in eighty two. That was a strike shortened 710 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: season in a sixteen team playoff format that year. It 711 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: was weird, and they were unable to beat Miami. That year, 712 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: Miami ends up going to the Super Bowl beating the 713 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: Jets in the AC Championship game. Boy, I know all 714 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: this stuff. It's kind of weird. And that year the 715 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 1: Redskins won the Super Bowl defeating Miami, and they knocked 716 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: off Gary Hogan, Boom and the Cowboys in the Nation's Capital. Absolutely, 717 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: Darryl Grant would pick six. That was a big how 718 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: about us coming up with this stuff? Anyway? I thought 719 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: I'd just go through that because that was a fun 720 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: time for me. And I don't like San Diego any 721 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like the Chargers anymore. Yeah, I 722 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: just like that era, and I think that's just part 723 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: of it, you know. I was kind of a Mercenary 724 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: fan at that point. Johnny, thanks a lot. Thank Okay, 725 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: not to make the show all about me, but I'm 726 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: going to ask our next guest, who's part of Houston 727 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: Methodist Minutes, about a personal injury situation I'm having right now. 728 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: It's doctor Corus Steffarni up of Houston Methodist West. Doctor, 729 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: how's it going fantastic? Thank you very much. All right, 730 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: let's talk about elbow injuries and Ben Roethlisberger, and the 731 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: speculation immediately went to the ulner collateral ligament. And I 732 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: know a lot of people suffer from injuries to this. 733 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: So what happens when you injure this ligament? Okay, let's 734 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: start with the anatomy. It's basically a ligament on the 735 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: inside of the elbow, the owner cloud ligament. The structure 736 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: is critical for elbow stability because it's on the inside 737 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: where the ligament the most. And these injuries can range 738 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: from a mouth stretch to full terror. And it's really 739 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: a result of sports injuries in this population that involves 740 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: repetitive overuse and forceful motions such as that scene in 741 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: throwers and in particular pictures, but of course we're talking 742 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: about throwers here in general. Okay, So if you need 743 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: it surgically repaired, obviously they're going to put it back together. 744 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: What is done in this case, So for surgery in 745 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: this population, it's more of a chronic injuries aute care 746 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: from an elbow dislocation or something along those lines. It's 747 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: more of an a cute repetitive overuse. So there's no 748 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: good tissue to repair per se. So we do insurgeries. 749 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: We do a reconstruction where we take a tendon from 750 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: another part of the body and for formal reconstruction of 751 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: the ligament, we basically take that chronic disease ligament out 752 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: and we put a new tendon in its place. I 753 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: was reading that Drew Brees might have an ulnar collateral 754 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: ligament injury with his thumb situation. So how is that possible? 755 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: There's another one down there, yes, sir, So that's a 756 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: little it's a little different ligament than the one in 757 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: the elbow. This is more so for the basis of 758 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: thumb for gripping such it's just driven the ball for 759 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: as a quarterback, and it's the ligament that's on the 760 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: inside party of thumb when you gripp and that's a 761 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: very important for stability of the hand when gripping large items. 762 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: All right, So for the first time I'm going to 763 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: bring my own personal situation into Houston Methodist minutes. My 764 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: left elbow kind of hurts when I do push ups, 765 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: but I can do a curl no problem. So what 766 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: might that be? Okay, So when you're talking about doing 767 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: push ups, you're using the triceps and the capsuler and 768 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: ligaments structures around the outside and back part of the joint. 769 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: And when you're doing curls, you're using most of the 770 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: biceps to the inside the front part of the joint. 771 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: So there's two different anatomic areas. I see. So I 772 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: just have some soreness or something like that, probably or 773 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: you may have you know what the beginnings of a 774 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: ligament issue are and such as with Ben Roethlisberger with 775 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: the elbow ligament injuries, they start out of springs and 776 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: then they progressed to full terrors. You know, it's a 777 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: grade one spring, Grade two sprain, and then grade three 778 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: sprains a full terror. So you may have the beginnings 779 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: of an issue along the outside capsuler portions of your 780 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: elbow or possibly your muscle, and it's around the elbow. 781 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: I love the on air diagnosis or part of it anyway. 782 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: And Roethlisberger, by the way, reportedly had complaints of inflammation 783 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: before this took place, so that would back up what 784 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: you're saying. And I think that's key to note that 785 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: there were reports that he having the elbow pain, holding 786 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: his elbot and practicing, and that's that's really important if 787 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: that happens for throwers, in particular overhead throwers, to stop, rest, 788 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: take a look, you know, maybe get an MRI and 789 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: sit to the endamage to you already, because if you 790 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: can catch this as a grade one, which is no 791 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 1: stretch aligament and just really pain and as a strain, 792 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: you can rehab this quite easily, and even as a 793 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: great two sprain can be rehabbed as well. I think 794 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer had a great two sprain in the past 795 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: of the same ligament and they just didn't rehab he 796 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,959 Speaker 1: didn't have sursure, and he came back and throwing again. 797 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: But then I think three to four months. Great information, Doctor, 798 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. Pleasure Doctor Chorus. Jaffarni 799 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: of Houston Methodist West Houston Methodist Orthopedics and Sports Medicine 800 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 1: is hosting sports injury clinics Saturdays for student athletes across 801 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 1: Greater Houston. They can get diagnosed, be evaluated by a physician, 802 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: have X rays or other imaging as needed. 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