1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Now let's move on to your other work, The Secret 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Lost Diary of Admiral Richard D. Bird. Of course, he 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: was a Navy officer and flew apparently into what could 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: be the Hollow Earth through what the South Pole. There 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: are conflicting stories with that. The book The Lost Diaries 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: of Admiral Bird surfaced first probably in the late nineteen 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: fifties early nineteen sixties. That it was a what was 9 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: called samosat where people would copy the version that they 10 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: have and then send it on to somebody else. And 11 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: in this it allegedly was the notes that that Bird 12 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: and his some pilot had recorded during a Bennett yes, yes, 13 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: exactly during a North Pole flight over uh, you know, 14 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: over the Arctic in nineteen four forty seven. But the 15 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: thing about that is, and this is something that I 16 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: covered in my book everal Birds, uh Dirty over the 17 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: over the Poles, was that at that same time Bird 18 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: was actually in Antarctica in a government expedition called Operation 19 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: High Jump. So it's, uh, it's it's a fascinating story 20 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: that you know, it involves so much that it's the 21 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: book that the book that I put together in subsequent 22 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: articles of that I have written, really gets into the 23 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: idea that possibly the book The Diary of Admiral Bird 24 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: may have been a misdirection over what actually was going 25 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: on in Antarctica with Operation High Jump. Now, the Diary 26 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: of Bird recounts that that Bird allegedly ran into UFOs, 27 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: which escorted him through the Northern polar opening. The saw 28 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: strange animals and everything else. Strange animals, a civilization. He 29 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: met with people who lived in the Hollow Earth and 30 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: up quotation marks around around that, and they they gave 31 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: him a story very much like the cond Ufo contacts 32 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties, that the people in the Service 33 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: world were I'm going to blow everything up with their 34 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: atomic weapons, and that the people the Inner Earth they 35 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: weren't going to have it, and that unless we stopped, 36 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: they were going to come out and intervene. And uh 37 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: and then and then he was sent back. Were were 38 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: these episodes recorded in his diaries or was it just hearsaying? 39 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: For years? His diary from this time UM had been lost. 40 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: Now I guess, oh, it's been about five or six 41 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: years ago. It actually resurfaced and Um and it has 42 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: now been um now kept to the University in uh 43 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: I think in Ohio. I don't know. It could be 44 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: um it could be in Virginia where you know, he 45 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: was born in Virginia, and it had nothing to do 46 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: with the alleged diaries of his journey over indeed North whole. 47 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: Now people have researchers have looked at the one that 48 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: popped up in the early nineteen sixties and said that 49 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: it is consistent with the types of notes that him 50 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: and his pilots, you know, we're taking at the time. 51 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: While his supposedly his authenticated diary is more polished, like 52 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: it was written after the fact, while the first one 53 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: was basically just bare bones, you know, the type of 54 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: material that you would write while you were actually on airplane, 55 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: you know, rather than at your desk years later. Why 56 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: would somebody tim make up the story of Richard Byrd 57 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: going into the hollow Earth. Well, I don't think it's 58 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: a coincidence that the the timeline allegedly when he was 59 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: flying over the North Pole, when in collectuality he was 60 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: at in Antarctica in nineteen forty seven with Operation High Jump. 61 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: I think that that something happened during the High Jump 62 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: expedition in Antarctica, that something classified, something classified very classified. 63 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: And I think that possibly the Lost Diaries ramal Bird 64 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: was put out as kind of a misdirection, as disinformation. 65 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: You put out something that is so outrageous that you know, 66 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: people are like, oh well, this is definitely you know, 67 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: this is definitely fake. This definitely holds. And then that 68 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, that lends that air of doubt about than 69 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: anything that would come out. So if any information about 70 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: what happened in Operation High Jump leaked people with that 71 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: associated Lost Diaries with this unique information and be like, 72 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: oh well, that's differ in space. Lost Diaries. Tuesdays on 73 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: the CW, from the executive producer of The Vampire Diaries 74 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: and The Originals, comes the incredible story about making Contact. 75 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: Get ready for the highly anticipated arrival of the new 76 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: series Roswell, New Mexico. 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Yeah, they were 95 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: more believable in those days, very much so. And you 96 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: know now we are constantly barded with news and information. 97 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you have the twenty four hour 98 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: news channels on cable television, you have the Internet, and 99 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: you can find practically every little bit of information in 100 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: every viewpoint, no matter you know, how normal or how crazy. 101 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: Over the Internet, so uh. You know, in the days 102 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 1: you only had several sources of news, and of course 103 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: then these sources will put this news out. They worked 104 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: very hard to make sure that they were as accurate 105 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: as possible. Um. You know that a lot of money 106 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: was spent sending the reporters to to locations. You know. 107 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: Now a reporter will you know, call on the phone 108 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: or you know or skype uh to get the information. 109 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: You know, when before it was travel, it was travel. Yes, yeah, 110 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: those days are gone, and it's and it's unfortunate, you know, 111 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: it really is. And because of the twenty four hour 112 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: news cycle, uh, you get that information out as quickly 113 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: as possible without the proper vetting or verification. The attitude 114 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: is that we'll put this out now, you know, so 115 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: we'll be the first and if there are any mistakes, well, 116 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: you know, we have time to correct it later. That's 117 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: why the evening television news now these days, tim is 118 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: so outmoded because by the time they're on the air 119 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: in you know, six o'clock, whatever the market time is 120 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: for any particular city, everybody knows the stories already. Yes, 121 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate because, you know, George, because of my 122 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: background in journalism. I have a soft spot you know 123 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: for you know, television news me too, me too, yea, 124 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: and things like that. And I mean that is they're 125 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: really kind of the last bastion of the of the 126 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: credible news reporting. What markets were you in, Well, I've 127 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: mostly in regional markets in the Midwest. I was in Detroit, Minneapolis, 128 00:09:53,840 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: and Saint Louis. Yes, I was in say, like Indianapolis, Indiana, Dayton, Ohio. Okay, 129 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: but then you know the station I worked with in 130 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: Indianapolis also uh let me out to international um reporters 131 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: that would come into the area. Uh, you were a 132 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: primarily producer videographer then, right, that's correct. Yes, Well, you 133 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: know there's still some dedicated, hard working young people and 134 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: older people in local news. Local news is so important 135 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: and and there it's really it's it's being crowded out. 136 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: The budgets aren't there anymore for local news. And you 137 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: look at local news, local newspapers, and they've been bought 138 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: by you know, larger and larger companies, and the local 139 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: news has basically disappeared to be replaced with wire services. Well, 140 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: look how thin the newspapers are these days, so very 141 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: much so it's really sad to see that. So, in 142 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: your opinion, the Admiral birds see something or not. I 143 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: think so, but not at the North Pole. I think 144 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: that something unusual happened during Operation High Jump. They you know, 145 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: first of all, you're talking about a an almost military 146 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: type of operation that took place after the end of 147 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: World War Two. I mean we're talking about they had 148 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: over forty seven hundred men, thirteen ships, thirty three aircraft. 149 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: This was a highly unusual situation just to go and say, 150 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: explore a section of Antarctica, or to train personnel on 151 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: how to operate in cold conditions, you know, because of 152 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: the Cold War, especially when you had say like Canada 153 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: or Alaska, that was a lot closer and a lot 154 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: easier and cheaper to get to. So the you know, 155 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: the reasons allegedly that they went to Antarctica are still classified, 156 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: They're still unknown. Wouldn't it be great to know, though, 157 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: that he went into the center of the Earth and 158 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: saw extraterrestrials and all kinds of things. What a great story. 159 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: I love. I love that story, you know, I always 160 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: always have. I mean, since I was a kid, I 161 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: always enjoyed reading about these seal theories. About the hollow 162 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: Earth and everything like that. You know, I'm still not 163 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: entirely convinced that there aren't, you know, like giant tunnels 164 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: and in caverns underneath. Well, I'm sure there are, or 165 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: if they're inhabited, I don't know exactly exactly. You know, 166 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: the hopies call them aunt people. Well, you know South America, 167 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: you know there there are still a tunnel being discovered 168 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: today that we're built who knows, I mean, you know 169 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: thousands of years ago. You know, the locals know all 170 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: about them, and you know, archeologists are now just just 171 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: discovering them. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every 172 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: weeknight at one am Eastern, and go to Coast to 173 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: Coast am dot com for more