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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt we were just talking off

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Speaker 2: the air about Miami losing to Tennessee last night in

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Speaker 2: a game in which Miami had a defensive touchdown, an

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Speaker 2: odd one, a big man touchdown, big man touchdown, and

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Speaker 2: then Tennessee handed them the ball deep in their own

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Speaker 2: territory twice in the final like nine minutes and they

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Speaker 2: and they still lost the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and as.

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Speaker 2: A thirteen point favorite at home.

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Speaker 3: I know everyone listening thinks the Patriot and Cardinal loss

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Speaker 3: is back to back or the worst thing that's happened

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Speaker 3: in the league all year, and it's not good. I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying that, but this by point spread was the

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Speaker 3: worst loss of the whole year by any team, you know,

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Speaker 3: And it's a team people look at like they might

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Speaker 3: be the one seed. They're the best offense in the league.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, Tyreek got hurt and they were falling like

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Speaker 3: flies there for a while, but they gotta be pretty

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Speaker 3: unhappy of themselves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was a fourteen point lead with

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Speaker 2: like four minutes left. Yeah, and you lost. Yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 2: and lostder whether you had Tyreek or not. The defense

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Speaker 2: scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: He was back by then, and yeah he was maybe

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Speaker 3: not himself, but but your.

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Speaker 2: Defense got you a touchdown, and you got gift rep

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Speaker 2: two other touchdowns and you couldn't be the Titan and

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Speaker 2: you couldn't hold off. You let the Titans walk right

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Speaker 2: down the field on you twice in the closing minute.

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Speaker 3: It's a brutal loss because now, I mean, I still

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Speaker 3: think they win the division. Although Tyreek's day to day

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Speaker 3: or whatever, they're a different team if he misses any time,

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Speaker 3: of course. Yeah, I mean, I don't much more to

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Speaker 3: say about. It's a horrible loss by Miami.

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Speaker 2: What it really does now is Miami still has to

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Speaker 2: play Dallas, they still have to play the Ravens, and

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Speaker 2: they still have to play Buffalo Buffalo at the end

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Speaker 2: of the year. So for the Ravens who played Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: this week, if they beat Jacksonville, even if they lose

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Speaker 2: to the forty nine ers out in San Francisco, it's

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Speaker 2: an NFC game. But then they then they then come

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Speaker 2: back and beat Miami in the head the head matchup.

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Speaker 2: Their Week eighteen game could be completely meaningless against the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: They could have the number one seed wrapped up in

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Speaker 2: the AFC.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Miami would have to run the table in

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Speaker 3: your scenario for them not to have it correct, you know,

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Speaker 3: So we want Baltimore to win.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's you're not going to catch them. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if anybody's going to catch them at this point.

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Speaker 2: They have to lose all four games and that's not

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Speaker 2: going to happen.

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Speaker 3: They're thrilled with what happened last night, absolutely yeah, and

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Speaker 3: that could benefit the Steelers in Week eighteen. I mean,

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Speaker 3: why would you, I know, the Steeler rivalry and all

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Speaker 3: that stuff. He don't play the Lamar if you're going

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Speaker 3: even if you have a bombing.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. So in two thousand and three.

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Speaker 3: This has happened before, This has happened before.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens had the division title wrapped up. They were

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Speaker 2: they were nine and six going into the game. The

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Speaker 2: Bengals finished eight and eight that year. The Steelers were

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Speaker 2: six and ten. Nick Browns with the Browns yeah and

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Speaker 2: not relevant, not relevant. So the Ravens couldn't. They couldn't

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Speaker 2: improve their their season ending standings.

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Speaker 3: They could from three to four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were going to be there. They were going

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Speaker 2: to be the division winner. They were going to play

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Speaker 2: wild card weekend no matter what. What they didn't know

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Speaker 2: was when they were going to play wild card weekend. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the only thing they were hosting a game. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: knew they were hosting a game. So that they go

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Speaker 2: into the game against the Steelers in the season finale.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers at that point are six and nine.

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Speaker 3: They're out of playoffs.

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Speaker 2: They have no playoff chances, but the Ravens had Brian

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Speaker 2: or Brian Billick decided that they needed to get Jamal

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Speaker 2: Lue was his two thousand rushing guy. Okay remember that year,

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Speaker 2: and he decided to play his dudes, so he played everybody.

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Speaker 2: The game goes to overtime, so.

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Speaker 3: They end up playing Battle.

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Speaker 2: It takes rose games. It ends up sixteen I think

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Speaker 3: But the Steelers get to go home and rest for

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Speaker 2: The Ravens come through. They win the football game. The

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Speaker 2: next week they go and they lose their because they

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Speaker 2: end up playing on Saturday, so they one fewer days

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Speaker 2: rest and they played an overtime against the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers and.

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Speaker 2: They lose twenty to seventeen in the first round of

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. The Steelers, meanwhile, remember this is two thousand

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Speaker 2: and three, go to the eleventh pick in the draft

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Speaker 2: as opposed to being thirteen or fourteen, and they get Ben.

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Speaker 3: Roethis so quite the turn of events on that decision.

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Speaker 2: All because of Brian Billick decided to play his guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't imagine hardball, would I mean, at least Lamar.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you're not playing Lamar.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's insanity because the Steelers are something to

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Speaker 3: play for and maybe they won't who knows.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but you're gonna win these next two to

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Speaker 2: have something to play for. But I just can't imagine it.

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Speaker 2: The rivalry again that the two teams, they have a

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Speaker 2: the rivalry between the Ravens and Steelers is different than

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Speaker 2: the rivalries between the Bengals and Browns, and the Steelers agreed,

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Speaker 2: there's a there's a much greater respect involved between the

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Speaker 2: Ravens and Steelers because they've both accomplished quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: I think they've gone about their business in similar manners. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: draft you know, working from within, the star powers, the toughness.

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Speaker 3: I think that they're kind of they mirror each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean more so than since you're Cleveland for sure.

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Speaker 3: Over the years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I really think that that's kind of even

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Speaker 2: morphed even more so down the road between Tomlin and Harbaugh. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Billick and Cower hated each other. They were not.

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Speaker 2: Billick would poke all the time, O good stuff.

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Speaker 3: So then they weren't ever going to go they were.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they were buddies.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I've made this joke or I kind of

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Speaker 3: mean it, like there should be a thirty for thirty

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Speaker 3: or a football life of either Kevin Colbert and Ozzie

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Speaker 3: Knew some fishing on a boat, just talking about you know,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you snagged this guy. And I was

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Speaker 3: about to take him or invite the two coaches or

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Speaker 3: the four of them, or the you know, just Harbaugh

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Speaker 3: and Tomlin shooting this, you know, the stuff together.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought about that, you know, when the Ravens

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Speaker 2: were here earlier this season, and I walked into the

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Speaker 2: there was Ozzie and he's washing his hands and I'm

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Speaker 2: washing my hands, and I wanted to say to them,

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Speaker 2: you know, Ozzie, I was just we've been talking about this.

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Speaker 2: You needed thirty for thirty with you and Kevin.

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Speaker 3: You and Kevin, right. I mean, now those two are

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Speaker 3: both they're not as busy every day. Obviously, they're not

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Speaker 3: head coaches, you know, like those two. But there's gold there.

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Speaker 3: It could be a three piece series. Fine, Yeah, would

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Speaker 3: be great. I mean just talking about ray Lewis stops

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Speaker 3: by for ten minutes or whatever. You know, there's Irons

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm with you. I don't think Hardball would

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Speaker 2: play his guys in that scenario. No, I don't think.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully it gets to that, I don't think would play.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Ronnie Stanley plays at left tackle. I

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Speaker 2: don't think the right tackle plays. Probably not Moses, Moses,

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Speaker 3: Backham.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't play Beckham. I wouldn't play Humphrey.

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Speaker 3: There's no chance Andrews is back by then, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they said maybe he gets back in time for

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Speaker 2: the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: That's what I thought.

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Speaker 2: In the playoffs. Yeah, that ain't happening.

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Speaker 3: No, that could benefit the Steelers. I mean we're getting ahead.

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Speaker 3: That helps the game last night helped the Steelers in

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Speaker 2: Then yeah. Yeah, so, but you have to win. That's

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Speaker 2: the you know, that's the one small caveat here. You

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Speaker 2: can't lose these games. You got to win them.

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Speaker 3: You have to win them. And Baltimore also has something

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Speaker 3: to say about it too. I mean, they don't got

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Speaker 3: a Laxonville and yeah, I mean those aren't easy games.

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Speaker 3: And who knows, Lamar gets hurt, like any people are

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Speaker 3: falling left right in the league. Yeah, interesting though, But

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Speaker 3: I was shocked to see the Giants and especially the

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Speaker 3: strongly considering going strong on the Dolphins and didn't and didn't.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, that's a big number. But I think they're

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Speaker 3: just gonna run all I mean, just light it up.

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Speaker 3: In some ways. They look good, but not enough.

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Speaker 2: They haven't beat anybody, not a single team that that's

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Speaker 2: even reasonably good. And now you look at them, you know,

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Speaker 2: are are they that much better than the seven and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know that they are.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, my love affair of the Bills.

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Speaker 3: I think Buffalo is better than they are.

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Speaker 2: I think they are too. I mean Miami has the

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Speaker 2: better record, sure, but again, but somebody could go in there.

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Speaker 2: Their strength to schedules four oh two.

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Speaker 3: Really four oh two, that's not their wins, that's their.

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Speaker 2: Well, their strength of victory somehow has jumped completely up

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Speaker 2: down of five twenty five. I think week. I think

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Speaker 2: some of the teams that they beat early in the season,

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Speaker 2: those teams are getting better, Like Denver for example, I've

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Speaker 2: gotten better each week because it's not when you played

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Speaker 2: three yeah, three weeks ago, we're talking about this and

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Speaker 2: they're in the two hundreds.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's unbelievable. I said, Okay, that makes sense. I

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Speaker 3: guess if you beat a team that's oh and one,

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Speaker 3: you shouldn't get zero.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. If they go to the strength of victory changes

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Speaker 2: every week based on you know who your victories have

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Speaker 2: come against. But their strength to schedule hasn't changed. It's

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Speaker 2: still four oh two, which is easily the worst of

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Speaker 2: any of the teams currently in the AFC playoffs. Wow,

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Speaker 2: actually it's the worst. It's the worst in the conference

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Speaker 2: is really yeah, by a lot. Like the next closest

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Speaker 2: in the AFC is wow, Houston, Houston at four seventy nine.

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Speaker 3: And then the Colts are right behind them. Yeah from

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Speaker 3: what I'm.

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Speaker 2: But Miami's at four oh two. There's a big gap

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Speaker 2: there between four oh two and four seventy nine.

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Speaker 3: So this site is called sumer Sports. They do it

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Speaker 3: by EPA, so same thing though. I mean, like the Saints, Falcons,

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Speaker 3: Cowboys had the easiest three schedules up until this minute.

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Speaker 3: Dolphins are four. I mean that's number one in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Houston and Indie are right behind them, and actually the

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Speaker 3: quickly for the Ravens because strength of schedule after the

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Speaker 3: Eagles have the easiest. The Colts actually have a very

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Speaker 3: easy path after this, but Miami has the hardest strength

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Speaker 2: They've scored their points against the really bad defenses, against

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Speaker 2: it's not you know, oh that's this greatest show on

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Speaker 3: No, No, I mean, in any stat is going to

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Speaker 2: They tried to run the clock out last right, and

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Speaker 3: Lead, but they could use a two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that thirty four to thirteen game,

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Speaker 3: Could be that would maybe like four or five weeks ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a Tim Boyle game. He goets sick

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Speaker 3: probably not great. I mean, Levis was fine last night.

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Speaker 2: This I mean here. So they played the Chargers in

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Speaker 2: Week one. We know the Chargers. Now they won that

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Speaker 3: the playoff. Yah, these are two great teams, you know, Right.

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Speaker 2: Then they played New England Denver. That was seventy to

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Speaker 2: Then they beat the Bills or lost of the Bills

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Speaker 3: They got to be bad by the Bill.

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Speaker 3: Okay, which nobody really bad than I at but that

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Speaker 2: Lost to the Chiefs twenty one to fourteen. So we're

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Speaker 2: fourteen points against Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, beat the Raiders twenty to thirteen. Beat the Jets

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Speaker 2: touchdown and there saying that was something like, yeah, they

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Speaker 2: And then they lose to Titans twenty eight twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they're a good team or not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. There's no win on there.

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Speaker 3: It's like, wow, okay, that was good about that one.

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Speaker 2: The three times they Charger went yeah, the three times

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Speaker 3: At who you're saying with that, that's that's Buffalo, Philly.

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Speaker 2: Philly, and Kansas City. They've lost all three of them.

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Speaker 3: They've lost all three. Yeah, and in addition to last

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Speaker 3: I mean, again, I don't know what their injury situation was,

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Speaker 3: I still think they'll win division.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's a team that again one

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, okay, yeah, I mean, no playoff matchup is going.

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Speaker 2: To be rosy. But right, yeah, I mean none of

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Speaker 3: No, No, I wouldn't think. So what was I gonna

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Speaker 2: So it's not there's nothing new, there's no there's no.

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Speaker 3: off season, and people probably steal that from them. But

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Speaker 3: They're very comfortable right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Miami, but their schedule is hard. Miami second at

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna I don't think they'll get challenged

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville fourth at eight and five.

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Speaker 3: Okay, do you think any chance Houston catches them?

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so either.

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Speaker 2: They're only a game behind and they split in the

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Speaker 2: Houston's one and two.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and they play again Jacksonville, they've already played twice. Okay.

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Speaker 3: I said that Jacksonville certainly could lose to Baltimore this week.

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Speaker 3: I don't, I think you. I don't even know who

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville still has a game left within the division at

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I do think Stroud's gonna play. I

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Speaker 2: It's there's an old gambling mantra that you always bet

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Speaker 2: It makes no sense, even though he's fine, just don't

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Speaker 3: It's a smidge of fogginess when it matters by milliseconds.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about just a little bit with the football.

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Speaker 2: know the Jets pass defense is good, but maybe they

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Speaker 3: They absolutely did so. I don't know if Houston's a

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Speaker 2: I would say so. Miami to me is probably the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because Buffalo could catch them, and Buffalo could win out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean that little bit figured out. That

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Speaker 3: Cleveland's pretty comfortable too. Yeah, just having that one game

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Speaker 2: That's a sneaky little game.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Bears are scary. I would not want to I

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Speaker 3: I just would. I think the Bears are rolling. They're

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Speaker 3: after they traded for a sweat. The defense is starting

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Speaker 2: There'll be the two best offensive skill players in that game.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean yeah.

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Speaker 2: They just will be.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: So you know, Cleveland still has the Bears. Then they

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Speaker 3: So it's not awful, but I doubt they sweep them. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: They're away schedule with you know, leaving away from this

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Speaker 3: It's huge for them. I mean, you win that one,

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but if you lose that one, now you

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Speaker 3: So I don't know this week's schedule super well, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I went through that earlier, and there's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the two as like Denver has to go to Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Say, Denver is a tough one. It matters a lot,

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Speaker 2: But those teams all do play each other down the stretches.

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Speaker 2: One like the NFL schedule maker when they put this

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Speaker 2: but they couldn't have scheduled it any bet.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of consequential games.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, because there's so many teams, they are still

442
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Speaker 2: in it. I mean you're talking eleven teams. I'm not

443
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Speaker 2: counting the Chargers of the ratings either. They're not eliminated,

444
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Speaker 2: but they're out of it.

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Speaker 3: Plus Herbert was announced he's not playing out of game

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 2: But you look at the you know, those eleven teams

448
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Speaker 2: in the a f C, and then you look at

449
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 2: the NFC and you've basically got ten teams. They're still

450
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Speaker 2: the six and seven are better. Yeah, now their group.

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Speaker 3: I mean that that's six and seven as opposed to

452
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Speaker 3: seven and six, And I do think their group is

453
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Speaker 3: noticeably weaker, like Minnesota is you know, their quarterback, the

454
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Speaker 3: poor Rams. I think the Rams are maybe one of

455
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Speaker 3: the best.

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Speaker 2: Of that Seattle's lost four in a row.

457
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Speaker 3: Yeah, against awful good teams, and I think they have

458
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Speaker 3: one more tough one or maybe they're done with that stretch,

459
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Speaker 3: but they just because has been their last five awful Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, they get the Eagles.

461
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Speaker 3: This week, okay, and then the lightens up.

462
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Speaker 2: Then they get the Titans, and they get the Steelers

463
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Speaker 2: and the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but then I mean you're gonna lose, probably gonna

465
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Speaker 3: lose five in a row.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ticked off Eagles team, Like right right, they're definitely

467
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Speaker 2: big dogs in that and Gino may still might not

468
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Speaker 2: be playing, like he's dealing with a groin injury.

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Speaker 3: I don't trust the Vikes at all. No, Jefferson's out

470
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Speaker 3: now and the quarterback situation. Flora's going to do so

471
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Speaker 3: much with that defense.

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Speaker 2: But right now they're sitting in there.

473
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Speaker 3: You got it the weird things.

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Speaker 2: You got the Eagles now at ten and three in

475
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Speaker 2: a wild card spot.

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Speaker 3: So my co host on the podcast brought it up

477
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Speaker 3: because somebody asked him about it. That being the number

478
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Speaker 3: one wild card in the NFC, you don't get home games,

479
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Speaker 3: but you get to go to Atlanta or Tampa. I mean,

480
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 3: like it's a really nice path.

481
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Speaker 2: Yeah in week in week one, but then you got to.

482
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Speaker 3: Go to San Francisco. You got to go to San Francisco,

483
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Speaker 3: right right right? Yeah, unless another wildcard team now, but.

484
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Speaker 2: You can hope that, Hey, san Francisco coming off of

485
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Speaker 2: a you know, a couple of weeks off. Yeah, maybe

486
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Speaker 2: they were. They takes them a while to get their

487
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Speaker 2: feet under. I mean, you just played a playoff game

488
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Speaker 2: and won it.

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Speaker 3: You would think the number one wildcard team, it's pretty

490
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Speaker 3: much guarantee the divisional round. Yeah, you know, which is

491
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Speaker 3: pretty nice yea, because right now the fourth seed is Tampa, yeah, exactly,

492
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 3: might turn into Atlanta or New Orleans. Yeah, yeah, you're

493
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Speaker 3: definitely favored on the road there. Yeah, maybe by a touchdown,

494
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Speaker 3: maybe heavily. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so interesting. We're gonna get to a break. He

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolli and you're

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Speaker 2: listening to the Drive here on Steeler's Nation Radio and

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Speaker 2: the big news today coming out of Steeler Land. Both

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Speaker 2: Alex high Smith and TJ. Watt limited in practice today, right,

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Speaker 2: and regular listeners to our show that limited coming out

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Speaker 2: of concussion protocol is a good sign.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we were hoping for yesterday. We told

515
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Speaker 3: you guys, hopefully we'll get limited tomorrow meeting today and

516
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Speaker 3: then hopefully there's no ramifications after today and they'll be

517
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Speaker 3: on the path to both playing. And you mentioned their

518
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Speaker 3: left tackle Raymond who was second year player, had a

519
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Speaker 3: long day this past week against Hendrickson Yea.

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Speaker 2: He gave up two sacks. I think it was like

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Speaker 2: five pressures, a couple of quarterback hits, and had four penalties.

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Speaker 3: Four penalties four penalties. Wow, and Hendrickson's good. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't think Smith's a big step below them at all.

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Speaker 2: He's no slouch.

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Speaker 3: No slouch.

526
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Speaker 2: Don't understand yourself, You're an incredible slouch.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of incredible slouches. They have a backup right tackle

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Speaker 3: down there was free Lan's's name, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Rookie a nice prospect in terms of you know, athletic Yeah, yeah, yeah,

530
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Speaker 2: but he wasn't ready to play no.

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Speaker 3: So he's most likely get TJ. So that's a nice

532
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Speaker 3: advantage for this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean they're going to have to help him

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Speaker 2: out on that side. So it's you're going to see

535
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Speaker 2: a lot of and which is what you saw with

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Speaker 2: the Bengals. They just told Bernard Raymond, hey, you got him.

537
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Speaker 2: You got to do your job over there, because we

538
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Speaker 2: got to help the kid out over here.

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned something off the air too that the

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Speaker 3: Bengals did that worked out well was they would put

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Speaker 3: one of their defensive tackles in between Nelson, who ever

542
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Speaker 3: one knows the good left card and their center and

543
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Speaker 3: try to draw double teams by attacking that. Get that

544
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Speaker 3: gap a gap, and if you could take even if

545
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Speaker 3: it's Cam. If Cam could take their center and Nelson.

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Speaker 2: Off, he'sa because Nelson in the center might be their

547
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Speaker 2: two best guys. Yeah, Kelly Kelly the center.

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Speaker 3: Definitely, Yeah, and Kelly's been around for a while.

549
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Speaker 2: So if you could put Cam and force the double

550
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Speaker 2: team there now you now you're definitely getting a one

551
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Speaker 2: on one with for high Smith and the right guard.

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Speaker 2: Friese is just a guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean if he's got Benton or Ogan, Jobi or

554
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Speaker 3: whomever that's favors of Steeler.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and so you know that that would

556
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Speaker 2: be that was They did that several times. This can't

557
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Speaker 2: be just a coincidence that I keep seeing Nelson go

558
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Speaker 2: to help double with with the center and.

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Speaker 3: If you could draw something similar, and Heyward's a better

560
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Speaker 3: player than any of the Bengals de tackles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were helping with hal backups and didn't matter

562
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Speaker 2: who it was, they were just putting them over there.

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Speaker 3: They know their protection rules well enough to say we

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Speaker 3: can dictate it.

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Speaker 2: Looking at the rest of the Steelers practice report, obviously

566
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Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett did not practice, uh nausea. Harris with that

567
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Speaker 2: knee didn't practice, but that's was expected. Running back, Yeah,

568
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Speaker 2: same thing with Land and Roberts. Obviously he's taking it,

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Speaker 2: and give him an extra day arrest here. And then

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Speaker 2: Isaac Sayamalu. All those guys played in the game last

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Speaker 2: Thursday despite their injuries. You give them the day off today,

572
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Speaker 2: just the reste Kz with an ankle was limited. James

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Speaker 2: Pierre with the shoulder injury was a full participant.

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Speaker 3: He didn't play last week.

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Speaker 2: He did not play last week. And then Keanu Benton

576
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Speaker 2: and then Cam Hayward with the oblique and then the

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Speaker 2: groin both limited today.

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Speaker 3: But any Benton concerns, No, those guys are both.

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Speaker 2: I expect them both to play.

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Speaker 3: So today's really a Wednesday, right, Yeah, okay, yeah, you

581
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Speaker 3: explained that yesterday. But it's when people that weren't listening.

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Speaker 2: First practice of the week they play Saturday.

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Speaker 3: This is like a Wednesday practice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. On the other side of things, they get again

585
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Speaker 2: some interesting dudes here there. They conducted a walk through Tuesday,

586
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Speaker 2: so this this wasn't even like a real practice for them.

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Speaker 2: Uh So Braydon Smith, who starting right tackle, didn't practice with.

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Speaker 3: A knee okay, didn't play last week.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor with the thumb, he's he's not going to

590
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Speaker 2: play this week.

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Speaker 3: I mean there was some speculation or some fantasy sites

592
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Speaker 3: when it happened he might miss only two games. Nobody

593
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Speaker 3: really thought that.

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Speaker 2: No, No, that that thumb injury. And it's exactly what

595
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Speaker 2: I thought it was. It's that tendon and the thumb.

596
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Speaker 2: When you have that, they got to reattach the tendon.

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Speaker 2: You're not coming back after three weeks from that. People

598
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Speaker 2: are gonna yank on your hand. They're gonna pull on

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Speaker 2: it like I. I have that injury. I heard it

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Speaker 2: my senior year in high school and toward the leg

601
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Speaker 2: I know, you like, your thumb still doesn't. My thumb

602
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: doesn't work right on you know, it's just the ligament

603
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: is not there. I can just twist and turn it.

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Speaker 2: My wife did that when but my one of my

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Speaker 2: my younger son when he was little, was roller skating

606
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Speaker 2: and skated underneath her and she almost fell, or she

607
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: did fall, but instead of falling on him, she reached

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Speaker 2: back behind her and toward the same ligament in her thumb.

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Speaker 2: She had the surgery. It was six weeks.

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Speaker 3: Is it like a hyper extension.

611
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Speaker 2: It's like it's like popping it back and you pull,

612
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: you bust that ligament that keeps it from bending all

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Speaker 2: the way back. And so they got to Reattach that

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Speaker 2: it's a ligament You're you're not coming back from a

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Speaker 2: ligament tearing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that the Colts did. He mainly miss a game

617
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Speaker 3: or two. He was like, no chance, so real quick,

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Speaker 3: I dug this up. But we both like Zach Moss.

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Speaker 3: But he's not Jonathan Taylor obviously, and I think he's

620
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Speaker 3: hitting a bit of a wall too. I mean, he's

621
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Speaker 3: had a lot of wear in.

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Speaker 2: The first time in his career he's carried the ball

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Speaker 2: this much in the.

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Speaker 3: NFL, and he played fifty four of sixty four snaps

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Speaker 3: last week, so he's playing a lot. He was stuffed

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Speaker 3: for no gain on three carries, took a loss on

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Speaker 3: three more. He had three carries in the game with

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Speaker 3: over three yards. It's like there are all threes for

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Speaker 3: some reason. Ye, Trey Sermon got a carry, but he

630
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Speaker 3: was the only other back that even saw any action,

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Speaker 3: and he's average. Moss has averaged two point seven yards

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Speaker 3: per carry or less in three of his last four games,

633
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Speaker 3: and since he's been the starter those two games, seventy

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Speaker 3: nine rushing yards on thirty two carries here's.

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Speaker 2: The problem that I that I saw watching the Bengals

636
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Speaker 2: game for him, because we know the Bengals don't have

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Speaker 2: a good run.

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Speaker 3: No, no, right, I say, it's not a great rundown.

639
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Speaker 2: It's very similar to what was happening at the end

640
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: of Ben Roethlisberger's career ball. The ball's coming out so quickly.

641
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: Everything's wide receiver screens and quick outs and things, and.

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Speaker 3: The Pittman's are Deontayeh.

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Speaker 2: He's just getting a lot of bodies at the line

644
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: of scrimmage. Everybody's within you know, six yards of the

645
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. There's nowhere to run.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense. That's actually a really good comparison. More,

647
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: I think about their offense, because the Steelers did take

648
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: shots back then, but it's usually was just a sideline bomb.

649
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't a real creator, which is kind

650
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Speaker 3: of what the Colts do. Pierce is that guy where okay,

651
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: you kind of know it's coming. They max protect. It's

652
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: throwing up for grabs on the sideline and if he

653
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Speaker 3: comes down with the great but it's a low percentage

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00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: play and Pittman's the one getting all the action.

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Speaker 2: I mean, again, we talk about every week during the

656
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Speaker 2: fantasy Like, he gets nine catches every game, every game.

657
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's nine catches for sixty yards, you know, if

658
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: he breaks a tackle, because again it's a lot of

659
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: wide receiver screens, there's a lot of stuff, you know, quickly, yeah,

660
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: quick slants.

661
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: He's a strong guy, and he can shrug off a tackle.

662
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: You know, he's good to getting open. He's a really

663
00:29:59,680 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: good one.

664
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: To me. One of the keys in this game is

665
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: tackling out, you know, tackling the catch. Don't let them

666
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: get those. You know. He catches it three yards beyond

667
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and gets.

668
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: Twelve, and I guarantee Porter is going to fall away. Yeah,

669
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: you know. And not only does he do that, no

670
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: matter what. Now, that's the perfect kind of guy for

671
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: him to do battle. Yeah, it's not the little quick guy.

672
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: I mean it's not.

673
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not anymoss. You beat them in the change

674
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: directions on you. I'm going to try to play three battle. Yeah,

675
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 2: they're going to battle.

676
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: And both their dads played in the league, and I

677
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: just like to put it out there, they're both tough guys.

678
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: Both tough guys. Yeah, and other things kind of weird

679
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: about their offense. They I want to say, they don't

680
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: have a tight end, but they play four of them

681
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: like all equal snaps. Like I've never seen such a

682
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: thing like that. You're turning to go out interesting.

683
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: This week against the Steelers because you would assume the

684
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: tight end's going to have to help out a bit

685
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: on TJ. Watt.

686
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they'll just play their best blocker because you

687
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: would think the way that I just described that they

688
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: play a lot of twelve, but they're always in eleven. Yeah,

689
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: I mean they are always the three receivers. So maybe

690
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: they just throw that. Maybe there's a big tell there

691
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: that I haven't noticed, like if this tight end's out there,

692
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: they're run the ball.

693
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just haven't watched enough tape for them to

694
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: figure that out. Is their past protector tight end or

695
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: you know, if we were on an NFL coaching staff, right,

696
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: watch a lot of those tendons.

697
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: Maybe those four really tell you something.

698
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I look at that. I mean

699
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: I think that you know, with those two tackles, and again,

700
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: Raymond's a quality tackle.

701
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems like he had a much better year

702
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: than his rookie season.

703
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: But I'll take my chances with Alex high Smith one

704
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 2: on one with him.

705
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: Even Golden Yeah, and her Big and those guys. You know,

706
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: I mean, if high Smith and Watt play seventy percent

707
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: of the stabs instead.

708
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: Of eighty five, do you have four quality.

709
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: Guys for this game that should do well? Yeah, I

710
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: mean against Freeland and Raymond, so uh yeah, those those are.

711
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: Two of the injuries. Cornerback Jalen Jones is dealing with

712
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: an ankle. He was listed as a limited participant. Again

713
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: this is a walkthrough, yeah, yeah, and then full participation

714
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: was Juju Brents the cornerback. Yeah, he used to be

715
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: we talked. Now he's Juju. Yeah, he's got a quadricep.

716
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: The Forrest Buckner dealing with a backsh You will Mallory

717
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: with a rib and EJ Speed with knees.

718
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: But again, this is a walk through today, and Buckner's

719
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: their best defensive player. Their d line is talented with

720
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: a lot of first round picks, and the Quiddy Pays

721
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 3: of the world are coming around.

722
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: This is.

723
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: This is a short week for them. Yeah, that's a

724
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: nice advantage too.

725
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know your Steelers are a little more

726
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: well obviously rested. Some of these guys are dealing with

727
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: some stuff here and they got to turn around today's

728
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: practice for them. It was kind of like the Steelers

729
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: had all all, you know, between their their Sunday and

730
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: Thursday game less. We were get out there, you're on

731
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: You're on the field practicing, but it's a walk through.

732
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're doing mental reps more than anything. Stretch

733
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: your legs a little bit kind of thing and walk

734
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 3: through the whole thing. I bet tomorrow is not a real.

735
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: Physical hope, they may not go anything kind of real

736
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: full speed until Thursday.

737
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I think this is a

738
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: good matchup for the Steelers the more I look into it,

739
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: They're they're defensive line and passed for worries me. I

740
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: think only two teams have more sacks. Yeah, but teams

741
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: are really running the ball in these right down their throats,

742
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: right down their throats. I think it's the last eight

743
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: games they give up one hundred and forty seven yards

744
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: a game. I mean, so against good running attacks, bad

745
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: running attacks, and so teams just aren't throwing it that much.

746
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: You know, they're not making their guys protect.

747
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, because why would you if you could do again

748
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 2: at this point in the season, you stick with what works.

749
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: And it also keeps their offense off the field. And

750
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: as we just said, I don't think they got to

751
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: catch up what kind of offense?

752
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: No, I think they have a ball control you know,

753
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: and guess what they are? Yeah, and minshew, it's kind

754
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: of a fun player. He reminds me so much of

755
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: like Ryan Fitzpatrick that he'll play for one hundred teams

756
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: and he'll start a lot of games, but he'll never

757
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: be the answer and he just is a risk taker

758
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: and that could be good and bad. Yeah, you know

759
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: what I mean. You know, there's good days. He makes

760
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: plays and sometimes he makes you scratch your head.

761
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: The other reason, you know, the other reason why I

762
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: think you can run against them. Their base defense is

763
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: a four to three. Both their ends are two hundred

764
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: and forty five pounds.

765
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all pass rush types. Yeah, yeah, they're good

766
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: commedy type.

767
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: Buckter and Grover Stewart in the middle players a quality player.

768
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: But if you can control those two guys.

769
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: Who do they call the starters? Is it pay and

770
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: pay in ecubomb? Okay, they both have handful of sacks

771
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: of each other. They're good players, but they're right, they're light. Yeah,

772
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: they're speed dudes.

773
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. When the Steelers go to that four man front

774
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 2: like that, it's the pass rush.

775
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 3: No, it's nickel dime.

776
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know if it's first or second down and

777
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: you're probably gonna run the ball. They've got a five

778
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: basically a five man front out there. So you're light

779
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: at the ends, but you've got three big guys out.

780
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: There right right, right right, they've got two in the

781
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: end all the time line up further away from the

782
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: ball then yeah, right.

783
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: They've got to all the time. And even the linebackers

784
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: aren't big dudes.

785
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: No, No, they're running hit dome players. Yeah, you know,

786
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: right right. So who do they listed? Who are the

787
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: starting linebackers?

788
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: Speed? EJ. Speeds or Franklin and y Cameron mcgrooon.

789
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Speed and Franklin the ones that don't really leave

790
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 3: the field. Yeah, Franklin's a big reason why le It's gone.

791
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: So you know, yeah, I mean I don't think their

792
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: secondary is great either.

793
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. The defensive line, the defensive front is good against

794
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: the pass. It is they'll get after it a little bit,

795
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: but they don't.

796
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, the run defense is getting worse and worse.

797
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: I just wonder how many of those sacks that they've

798
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: racked up over the course of the season is because

799
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 2: they've played really bad teams.

800
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, they none last week, so

801
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: they're third in the league in sacks after having zero

802
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: last week.

803
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: Because you know, in recent weeks again, no sacks last

804
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: week against the Bengals. Before that, they played the Titans, Buccaneers, Patriots, Panthers.

805
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if they racked them up against those

806
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 3: guys or not.

807
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: They've also played well the Titans again earlier in the year,

808
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: the Browns in that game that they beat, the loss

809
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: of the Browns thirty nine to thirty eight the Saints.

810
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: It's I mean, not terrible.

811
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: But no, no, ye, by all, I think they're having

812
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: a good Yeah. I mean, especially because you picked fourth

813
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: in the draft. You invested in Richardson, and if he

814
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: told me before the season he would play here and

815
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 3: there over the course of four games, I'd be like, Oh,

816
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: the Colts might be picking the top five again, you know.

817
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: I mean, not that he's a superstar, but they're built

818
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: to build around him. So I do think they found

819
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 3: themselves a coach and Minshew's a quality borderline starter, and

820
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: the old line is much better than it was a

821
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: year ago.

822
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: It was really bad last year. Awful.

823
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: Awful was why they were picking so high. So I

824
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 3: think they're finding things, but I keep saying they're kind

825
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: of playing with house money too, Like they they all

826
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: kick their coverage a little bit.

827
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: But if they have to roll out that right side

828
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: of the offensive line this week with Will Fryes and

829
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: Blake Freeland on the right side.

830
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah good luck with that. Better yet is their backup

831
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: center French? I love when he lines up next to Fryes.

832
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: It makes me.

833
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 2: You are always into that kind of stuff.

834
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean you can get that once in

835
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: a while. That just makes my day. Back words was

836
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: next to French and something I saw right made the

837
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: switch spots.

838
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 2: Even like their their backup defensive tackles, it's at a

839
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: bare who's an undersized No, they're built for speed and Tavan.

840
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: Bryan Taven Brian right, he's another combine guy. So I

841
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: should have said this. I mean, if you look at

842
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: their draft class really the last couple of years, but

843
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 3: especially this past year, with the exception of Josh Downs,

844
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: because they didn't have a slot at all.

845
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: They needed a slot.

846
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: They thought that'd be a very Richardson friendly target, which

847
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: he will be. And but their whole draft class and

848
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: really this whole regime, they want length and they want

849
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: combine guys. You know, like Brian. They didn't draft them,

850
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: but he was the first round pick because he's long

851
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: and he's a combined guy, you know, like all their

852
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 3: dudes that look great coming off the bus, and they're

853
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: going to test incredibly well in coincidentally Indianapolis. But that's

854
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: not why.

855
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: Of course you've got a good chance to see them

856
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: run on your field. There you go.

857
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: But they're built that way. I mean, all their dudes

858
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: are pretty and long and fast. Now does that translate

859
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: to being good football players? That's what their coaches are being.

860
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: That's they're still figuring out. Yeah, we're gonna get to

861
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie.

862
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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive. You're on Steelers Nation Radio.

863
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Speaker 1: He is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

865
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

867
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lollie. He is the Matt

868
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Speaker 2: Williams's only long and Matt get some a little bit

869
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: of quarterback news here, and of course there are some

870
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: other injury news coming out of Lastsay's game. Yeah, but

871
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 2: justin Herbert out the remainder of the season with the down, Yeah.

872
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure that came from ownership, you know, Like he

873
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 3: has a broken middle finger on his passing hand, Like

874
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: I bet if they were in the race and he

875
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 3: could tape it up or miss a game or whatever,

876
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: And I'm sure the coach in front office would be like,

877
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 3: why don't we play the quarterback and maybe win a

878
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: few and maybe save our jobs. But I think that

879
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: ship has sailed.

880
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're done at the end of the year. Yeah.

881
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: And I think you mentioned this the other day. If

882
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 3: Kellen Moore was this hot shot, you know, they probably

883
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: would have given him the job already. And I just

884
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: think they just want to right.

885
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just working.

886
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want any of this.

887
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

888
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: Side note, I know you know this, but I went

889
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: through it on my podcast today. Their salary cap for

890
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: next year is unbelievable. I Mean they have cap hits

891
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: for like Eric Kendricks and Pimpkins at like ten million,

892
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: and all the way up to Khalil Mack at like

893
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: thirty six million. You know, Bosa and Mac cost like

894
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: seventy million dollars between the two.

895
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: It's nice to have the quarterback in place. Yeah, I

896
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: don't know if that's going to be a super attractive job.

897
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 3: No, I mean that part is, but you're not gonna

898
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 3: be able to get anything. You'll probably have a pretty

899
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: nice pick and one one, yeah exactly. That's not gonna

900
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: do a second round pick.

901
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: That you might get. Okay, we got a decent second

902
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: round pick, but man, those guys better hit. They better hit.

903
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so both the edge guys are crazy expensive,

904
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: and Williams and Keenan Allen are like keep five million

905
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 3: between the two of them.

906
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: So it'll be able to keep either one of them.

907
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: Right, I don't know if all four are there, you know.

908
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 3: So it's not great right.

909
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: Now, No, not at all. Got a quarterback change in Minnesota,

910
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: did the Nick Mullins will be the starter over Josh Dobbs.

911
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: The Dobbs thing was a wonderful story every stop of

912
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 3: the way. And hey, we're rooting for him, but there's

913
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: a reason. There's what his fourth team in the in

914
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: the calendar year. Yeah, might be fifth. I think seventh overall,

915
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: seventh overall, but in the last three and sixty I

916
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: mean in twenty twenty three, I think he's been on

917
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: four teams. Yeah, you know, if you're a starting quarterback,

918
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: that doesn't happen.

919
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: Not only did the Miami Dolphins, who's Tyreek Hill last

920
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 2: night and he is considered day to day. They're starting

921
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: center Connor Williams is out for the season with the

922
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: torn ACL.

923
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 3: They're really happy with him.

924
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was He's probably outside of Armstead, who plays sporadically,

925
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: their best offensive line. Absolutely.

926
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: I mean, for people don't know, he was a good

927
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 3: guard with the Cowboys and they signed him two years

928
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: ago to a nice deal moved him to center. I

929
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: don't know what his background at center was, but he's

930
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: fitting extremely well. And I think what they did last

931
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 3: night was moved Eikenberg from guard to center. Yeah, so

932
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: they're shuffling everything around, and I kind of liked Eikenberg

933
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: coming out another Dame.

934
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: I like to be put in the center, though I

935
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: don't think he's any of the above.

936
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: Like, one of the things I liked about him was

937
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 3: he played a lot of tackle there maybe he's a center,

938
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: maybe he's a guard. He might be none, he might

939
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: be a six man. So losing your center is always

940
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: a big deal.

941
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: That's huge. Yeah, the Browns day one. Jones placed on

942
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: injury reserve. Jedrick Willis also underwent arthroscopic knee surgery. He'll

943
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: miss arrest the twenty twenty three season, and Conklin's and

944
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: Conkland's be not. So they're down to their fourth and

945
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: fifth tackles the rest of the season.

946
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: So Flaco better read it out quick. He's played well

947
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: and he's processing well and all that stuff, but he's

948
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 3: gonna get hit.

949
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:14,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

950
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 3: I'm kind of rooting for Flacco. I'm kind of not.

951
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a cool story. I hope

952
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: you when, but I don't want the Browns to do well.

953
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 3: But my worry for him tackle stuff aside is he's

954
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 3: old and playing two games is fine. Playing one games fine?

955
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: How about five?

956
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: About six? You know, I mean we wonder if he's

957
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: gonna be this sharp a month from now.

958
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it starts to hit, start to add up,

959
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: and you don't cover quite as well.

960
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 3: Monday is not as much fun as he.

961
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: Hasn't played a stretch of games in a long time.

962
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: In a long time, he would have space starts here

963
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: and there. Yeah, right right, but the start, Yeah, nothing

964
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: where he was Okay, you're the starter for the next

965
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: five games.

966
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if he ever did that with

967
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 3: the Jets. I mean I think it was the last time,

968
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: which was Lamar's a year right before you got bench

969
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 3: for Lamar halfway through the year, so it was four

970
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: years ago, five years ago.

971
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that worries me. You're one misstep away

972
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: from I.

973
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: Just think everything's gonna hurt Monday mornings. I mean, I

974
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: got hurt throwing darts.

975
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: So well, you are finally tuned down.

976
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: I have a bad knee from mowing the lawn.

977
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: The Ravens sign Malik Huntingham off Stranger the practice squad

978
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: of the Patriots.

979
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 3: He certainly fits their style. I'm not sure they've had

980
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: their eye on him for a while. But the timing's weird.

981
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: It's a strange.

982
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and you keep thinking the Patriots are going

983
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: to bump them up and have all these plans for them,

984
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: but they don't.

985
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was my understanding the Patriots had a red

986
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: zone package.

987
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 3: For him for the Steeler.

988
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: Game and the game before that, but they did, they

989
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: elevated him, but they didn't keep him on the Yeah. Yeah,

990
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: so I don't know. I mean, maybe they're setting themselves

991
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: up here so down the road that they won him

992
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 2: in place now in case somebody goes down, in case

993
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: something happens, because they've seen that and guess yeah, coach

994
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: him up now, and if wild Card weekend Lamar's on

995
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: are available, he'll be ready to be her two at

996
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 2: the very least. When you you know, if you sit

997
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: Lamar in Week eight team, which we talked about the

998
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: open the show, now you bump him up and he's

999
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: number two.

1000
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe even play him to see what we can too.

1001
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see how that's a guy.

1002
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 3: It's not a great passer.

1003
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, according to Shane Steichen, who folks, is the

1004
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: head coach of the Indianapolis Colts, I wouldn't surprise you,

1005
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: surprise me if everybody didn't know Jonathan Taylor expected to

1006
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: play a game at some point this season. That sounds well,

1007
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: that doesn't sound like he's playing this week against the Steelers. Yeah,

1008
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: at some point this season, Hunter long you saw that

1009
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 2: if you watch the game with the Rams and the Ravens.

1010
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: Uh he tours a c L in that game. He's

1011
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: been placed on injurms tight end. Yeah. They also placed

1012
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: their long snapper on injury preserve.

1013
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: Really okay, I mean one takeaway that I think we

1014
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 3: talked about this with the Rams was the Ravens had

1015
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: that walk off punt return. Great, great play, you know,

1016
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: great way to win. But the Rams are bad on

1017
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 3: special teams because they don't have any Maddick King Brews.

1018
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 3: They can't afford it. They don't have any of those

1019
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: pure special teams dudes. You know, and I know a

1020
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 3: long snapper isn't a needle moving thing. But they lost

1021
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: another guy that they're kind of counting on for that day.

1022
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: Now you got to bring in another one and they

1023
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: both count against your salary cap. How about this that

1024
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: you mentioned the Killer brew his four since he came

1025
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 2: here in twenty twenty one four block punts.

1026
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, in two and a half years a little over.

1027
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: That's tied for the second most in the league if

1028
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: you just looked at teams.

1029
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: Oh really, he has as many as any team total. Wow.

1030
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: And the Colts had two two weeks ago.

1031
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1032
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: Wow. I mean, it's it's worth your money.

1033
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: People who are killing Danny Danny Smith. He that's a skill. Oh,

1034
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: that's a skill, and he is walking kicks and it's huge. Yeah.

1035
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: Like people used talk about what a legend Ed Reid

1036
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: was as a kick blocker, Like there's nobody like him.

1037
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 3: Patrick Peterson has a history. Yeah. I mean, like, these

1038
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: guys are skills and they're some of them are elite athletes.

1039
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you also have to scheme it up to

1040
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: make like the one that they got the other day,

1041
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: that wasn't a scheme. That wasn't something that was schemed up.

1042
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: That was just Killer Brew beating beating his guy. I

1043
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: think it was Montgomery that wasn't think it was time

1044
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: Montgomery around the edge. That's their fault for putting a

1045
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: little a little guy on the edge.

1046
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: Like that receiver running back.

1047
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: But at the same time, the Steelers recognize that to

1048
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: put their best guy because Killer Bruce typically rushes from

1049
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: the inside, they put him out on the edge.

1050
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: So that is scheming. Yeah, this guy, it's just a matchup,

1051
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: you like, same way as putting Cam over you know whatever.

1052
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: Because you know who your best kick blocker is. I

1053
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: don't even like he just I think he blocked it

1054
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: with his body.

1055
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 3: Was it a forearm or yeah, hands stretched like you

1056
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 3: usually do, fingertips.

1057
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: He beat him so badly, he got his whole body

1058
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: on the punt.

1059
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 3: So he had those three special teams penalties. I hope

1060
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: that doesn't disqualify him from a Pro Bowl. I mean

1061
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: as as the pure special team or I mean it

1062
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: probably will because there's not much to go off of.

1063
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: But I mean, I think that's one of the best

1064
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 3: ones in.

1065
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: The league with which you know, you might win the

1066
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: player vote, but you don't win the fan vote. Well,

1067
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: the fans don't know who he is.

1068
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: Don't put Slater in again, right, That's where makes it

1069
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: every day, Yeah, because they know he is. I know

1070
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 3: if he's still in the league.

1071
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: The Patriots special teams have not been good the last

1072
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: time year. He's part of it.

1073
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: He's their top special he's especially captain. Yeah.

1074
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyways, but killer brew has value.

1075
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 3: Folks like Rams don't have a killer Brew.

1076
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: We're going to get to another break that's going to

1077
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: do it for our number one, Matt, and now will

1078
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: be back for our number two. Right after this. You're

1079
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: listening to the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.