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Speaker 1: What up y'all? This your main man, Memphis Bleak right here.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and

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Speaker 2: the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over

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Speaker 2: at Drink Champs.

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Speaker 3: You should nobody know.

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Speaker 1: You should nobody know. Yeah, y'all, you already know what

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 2: Yours truly am Greasy myth Bleak back with another exclusive

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Speaker 2: episode of Rock Solid, And this one is special because

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Speaker 2: I got two of my favorite guys from my favorite city.

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Speaker 1: You hearn me, New Orleans. Baby, when they talk that

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Speaker 1: shit get dirty, baby.

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Speaker 2: You know they showed me love when I touch down, baby,

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Speaker 2: you know, let's welcome the legends to the building.

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Speaker 1: Many fresh juvie, my guys. What's up? My brothers? How

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Speaker 1: you doing that? My god? What's up?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: A few times?

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Speaker 3: Yo?

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Speaker 1: I love it, y'all, I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 2: I got some people's out there, like my sister, the Liing,

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Speaker 2: the Shynese.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of.

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Speaker 2: My sisters, I call her my sister. I met them.

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Speaker 2: You know, New Orleans. They show you so much love,

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Speaker 2: so you just become family. She got ordained, so you

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Speaker 2: know she out there praying for me. You know what

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Speaker 2: I mean that my other sister, Shayne. She she first

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Speaker 2: line stepping every day. Yeah, it's front of the first line,

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Speaker 2: which I call the second line.

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Speaker 1: The second line is the band. The second line she

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Speaker 1: on every line.

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Speaker 2: She didn't even cracking. She ain't she outside with it.

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Speaker 2: But yo, I wanted to know, right because I'm a fan.

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Speaker 2: So let's start from the beginning. Man, New Orleans, the

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Speaker 2: bounce coachre here come cash Money, all the money in

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Speaker 2: the world, stunting on the world, showing niggas. Hey, we

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Speaker 2: got that flash too. What was it like for y'all

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Speaker 2: in that era?

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Speaker 4: Well, rewind a little bit. Cash Money started out as

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Speaker 4: a bounced label. Yeah, so, so the first generation of

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Speaker 4: cash Money was bounce artists.

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Speaker 3: It's changed when he did.

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Speaker 4: BG Elbow Chopper City. What the changed the whole format

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Speaker 4: of what it was like. And then from that it

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Speaker 4: was on and popping, like you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: but that ain't But they ain't answer your question.

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Speaker 5: I gotta correct him a little bit though, because that

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Speaker 5: God damn U n l V Uptime for Life album.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, beats yeah.

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Speaker 1: Bro, you had me, That's that's what.

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Speaker 4: But U n l V is considered a bounce group bounce,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, But they had some different

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Speaker 4: beats because I was on some other ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and y'all always been on that bounce wave, especially

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Speaker 2: even when you was doing the you know, the many

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Speaker 2: fresh and fucking baby albums. Y'all had that bounce where

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Speaker 2: you're still incorporated in there. But what would some of

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Speaker 2: your motivation even get into the producing world?

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Speaker 4: Ship bro, My dad my dad was a DJ, so

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Speaker 4: so i'm you know, crazy ship in the world. My

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Speaker 4: dad actually knew Juvie before I know way my dad

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Speaker 4: used to let him rock the mic when my dad

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Speaker 4: was DJ. So my DNA was already that when you

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Speaker 4: really look at my ship is cycle. And it's kind

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Speaker 4: of because when you go to like baby pitchures, I

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Speaker 4: got records and ship, I got keyboards there, like.

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Speaker 5: I got no baby Yeah, I got no baby rats

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Speaker 5: I got I got I have.

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Speaker 4: Records, I have instrumental turntables. That was my motherfucking yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was my that was my baby toys like saying,

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Speaker 4: So the ship was kind of written into my DNA,

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Speaker 4: like so it was already there for me, like you know,

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Speaker 4: and just meeting some cool ass people that put the

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Speaker 4: pieces to the puzzle.

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Speaker 1: That's a fact. Yeah, that's dope. Man.

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Speaker 2: When you first started working together, like y'all too at

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Speaker 2: Cash Money, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: You said your pops introduced new him first.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: What made the creative chemistry like just click so quickly.

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Speaker 5: The fact that we were so rebellious against each other.

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Speaker 5: I'm coming from the whole other, a whole other group

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Speaker 5: of people, you know what I'm saying that did beats

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Speaker 5: and did things a certain way, and I was so

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Speaker 5: enshrined and want.

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Speaker 1: To do with the big boy record cast was.

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Speaker 5: I was like, even though he didn't know, one of

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Speaker 5: the main reasons I wanted to be a Cash Money

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Speaker 5: was because of him.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, But I want him to.

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Speaker 5: Make me another kind of beat. And he was like, well,

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Speaker 5: you know, I may hits. He was in the talking

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Speaker 5: shift to me. So it went from being the rapper,

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Speaker 5: you know, like normally the rapping and producer always lock in.

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Speaker 1: We locked in. But it was competitive. It was like, Nah, this.

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Speaker 5: Nigga won't be He's trying to beat me out what

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Speaker 5: I mean, So I gotta So. He made me go

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Speaker 5: even harder on my songs, especially with the creativity part,

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Speaker 5: because I was more enshrined than I don't care. I

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Speaker 5: ain't so much as shrine with being the best rapper.

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Speaker 5: I just want to say this ship so I can't

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Speaker 5: believe that Nigga said that ship that.

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Speaker 2: Like, that's one thing. A lot of people think that

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Speaker 2: we had. Rockefeller had in the house producers like just

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Speaker 2: Blaze and Kanye.

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Speaker 1: They were in house, but they were more in house

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Speaker 1: for Jack. You had to we got.

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Speaker 2: We got the pass downs, like you said, the hand

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Speaker 2: me downs from Big Bro. Yeah, oh yeah, we got those.

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Speaker 5: With the beat sneaking too big Yeah, get that beat.

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Speaker 5: Oh said this beat they fit? Let me get that

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Speaker 5: one man. Yeah, That's how we had to do it. Like,

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Speaker 5: at what point creating all this music New Orleans, y'all

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Speaker 5: know y'all got the bounce waves. The West Coast is

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Speaker 5: making noise, East Coast, you know, making noise. When did

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Speaker 5: y'all know y'all had that formula to compete?

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, man.

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Speaker 5: When we dropped my album, the Soldier Rag Album, we

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Speaker 5: started breaking so many barriers. And the crazy part about

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Speaker 5: the Soldier album and the album when we went in

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Speaker 5: the studio recording, we didn't know who the songs was

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Speaker 5: gonna be for because Cash Money. The way we recorded,

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Speaker 5: they never told us nothing. We was like, all right,

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Speaker 5: you do a solo, you do a solo, you do one.

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Speaker 5: I'm right, We're gonna record a group like five or

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Speaker 5: six group song. So you're sitting there saying, Okay, where

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Speaker 5: these songs going at?

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Speaker 1: What album there going? So whoever next? Ez it's who

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Speaker 1: the album of who the song is going to? So

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Speaker 1: here I'm sitting here, I'm next up after BG.

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Speaker 5: So I got something BG songs, I got someone Wayne

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Speaker 5: songs try.

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Speaker 1: I got a little bit of everything on my album.

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Speaker 5: So that always paid the way for us to have,

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Speaker 5: you know, some of the greatest fans and seeing us together.

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Speaker 5: So it was always cool when we showed up together.

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Speaker 5: As you seeing one person, you wanted to see everybody.

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Speaker 1: That's dope, man.

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Speaker 2: And that's how we moved as a unit, like you know,

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Speaker 2: the movement was stronger than one person. And it's weird

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Speaker 2: to hear you say you came after BG, because up

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Speaker 2: here in New York East we you.

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Speaker 1: The first one from Cash Money. We know when was

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Speaker 1: the blueprint? Bro?

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Speaker 5: No bge of this happened, damn crazy. He created the

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Speaker 5: folk the first like the crazes for us.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: I got on one song on BG album with bun B,

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Speaker 5: and I ain't even know who bund was.

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Speaker 1: But.

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Speaker 5: Two days with this dude, and I said, he said,

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Speaker 5: they say bun I said Bun. I said, bun B,

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Speaker 5: the kicking the humble trail niggas. Yeah, he said, yeah,

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Speaker 5: he said, you ain't knowing who I was. That's what

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Speaker 5: man is fucked up, I said, I get. I started

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Speaker 2: Shout out bun B. He's fucking killing them with them

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Speaker 2: trail burgers. Bro Yo, yo, my nigga, that might be

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Speaker 2: one of the best burgers on the street right now.

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Speaker 1: And I told him that you got some ship, my guy.

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Speaker 1: So but four.

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Speaker 2: Hundred degrees dropped, first high drop, then four hundred four

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Speaker 2: hundred degrees dropped and boom, cash money exploded on the

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Speaker 2: motherfucking sing yeah voices everywhere.

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Speaker 1: What was life like then? How did it shift for y'all? Then?

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Speaker 5: It really didn't shift for us because before we got

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Speaker 5: that then we was really like we was. We was lavish,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: So when when when the world got a chance to

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Speaker 5: see us, man, we was already like ferraris and beans

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Speaker 5: and big houses, and we already had all that ship,

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Speaker 5: so they we we the they didn't look at us

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Speaker 5: like they looked at us like this can't be real.

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Speaker 5: We were like, nah, bro, it's really real. You know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, It's really real. And the fans went crazy.

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Speaker 4: It was a shifting, you know, even how people look

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Speaker 4: at business, you know, because we had this ship together,

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Speaker 4: like you know, when Folks was going, we want to

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Speaker 4: sign y'all to a major, you know, and we was like,

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Speaker 4: we don't really need it. We really didn't, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because that much ship was happening, like

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and it's and it's kind

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Speaker 4: of like what he said. Juvie was the glue that

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Speaker 4: that that made it go crazy. But really, you know,

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Speaker 4: you had fuck. This is when we invented the Big Timers.

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Speaker 4: And this was before the world heard it. But in

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Speaker 4: our region kicked.

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Speaker 1: Out the group that she was in Big Time.

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Speaker 3: He was, he was.

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Speaker 1: You listen to the first of it, The only one

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Speaker 1: said they kicked me out kind of way, but we

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Speaker 1: got the record, got cut ship time.

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Speaker 4: If you listen to the first Big Times Bun beat

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Speaker 4: all over.

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Speaker 3: We were like, you know what, come to me, come

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Speaker 3: to the met this ship.

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Speaker 1: The nigga told us to our face they ain't cutting,

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Speaker 1: no coning.

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Speaker 5: Y'all got everything else bron something, yeah, kick us out

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Speaker 5: the group.

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Speaker 1: At least they kept it real, y'all. Let let's get something.

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Speaker 4: Thank y'all for y'all lyrics and thank y'all for y'all contribution.

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Speaker 3: But we won't be needing.

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Speaker 5: Y'all with that Big Time y'all all don't want to

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Speaker 5: let us in the high boys group, yo yo, but

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Speaker 5: let's let's fast for a little bit because Big.

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Speaker 1: Time had the mark of their own.

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Speaker 2: That's one thing I can honestly say about cash Money.

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Speaker 1: Y'all have different entities from.

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Speaker 2: The one commodity like it's it's cash money as the group.

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Speaker 2: But then all of y'all individually, did youall thing? Then

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Speaker 2: you got the Big Timers, you.

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Speaker 1: Got hot boys like that ship had to be madness.

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Speaker 2: I know, did you ever leave the studio or did.

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Speaker 3: Time brow bro?

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Speaker 1: We turned, We really turned the studio.

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Speaker 4: That was that was home the glover I remixed, go ahead,

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Speaker 4: tell his nigga turn the studios in the club.

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Speaker 1: He then cocoxic get this, and we about to go

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Speaker 5: Heven went to this white boy boy and.

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Speaker 4: That made me my own fucking ship, like you know

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: That's now it's time to get the work.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy to have the chicks over there and all that,

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Speaker 2: because that's what that's what fucked us up when we

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Speaker 3: But then we were with the Circle House. Well, I

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Speaker 2: Shout out, Bill, motherfucking brownies, ruined lives.

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Speaker 5: You went there thinking you're gonna record who's the chef?

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Speaker 1: Circle House was bad man? Yes. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So now like it's a lot of artists come up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So for you to build that it takes time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That don't work like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So artists today, a lot of these guys grow up together,

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Speaker 2: What advice would you give them, guys to different from

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Speaker 4: The numbers don't lie. We've heard that before. When let

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Speaker 4: me explain it to you. To me, the most successful

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Speaker 3: All had that. They had that one producer.

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Speaker 4: Even if they stepped outside of that, somebody picked the

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Speaker 4: that one is cool, you should do that one that

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Rockefeller, You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You think of Suave, It wasn't like that.

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Speaker 3: But let me tell you.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you why all kinds of.

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Speaker 4: Why y'all Jay made some people bigger than you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying that.

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Speaker 3: For for instance, just.

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Speaker 4: Blades, we we if Just Blade did it, we didn't

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Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: We were just like, well, ship just blazes and you

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Speaker 4: know it's fire. When Kanye did it, we were just like,

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: For you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: There's things where it's a marriage where if you get

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Speaker 4: the right people aligned, that ship gonna happen. And in

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Speaker 4: hip hop, the most successful things were people aligned.

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Speaker 1: That's a fact.

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Speaker 2: Like being older now, all the success we all accomplished

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Speaker 2: in this game, how is it for you seeing little

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Speaker 2: wa come from this little shorty to where he at?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 5: Hey man, it's one of the most thrilling things in

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Speaker 5: life because it gives me bragging points. I know, if

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Speaker 5: you ask you this question, who you think the greatest

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Speaker 5: app of all time is, you're gonna say, oh.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 5: And it's part biasing. Is how you feel in your

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Speaker 5: heart right, you got to ride with home too, And

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Speaker 5: that's how I am by Wayne. I'm like, hey man,

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Speaker 5: I put my money up on Wayne. If you know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I know what I'm talking about about

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Speaker 5: a little broke and I know I know what he

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Speaker 5: been through and I know what we did well us

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Speaker 1: We torned him down. You torn them down, and.

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Speaker 5: I think it worked out for the good, because hey,

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Speaker 5: they only created a monster. You know a lot of

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Speaker 5: stuff that he held in when he got his opportunity

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Speaker 5: to let it.

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Speaker 1: Go, Like god damn man.

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Speaker 2: That's why I asked, did y'all ever leave the studio,

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Speaker 2: because that's one nigga, who don't you want to link

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Speaker 2: ain't linking up. What you trying to tell you? We

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Speaker 5: You know, that's part of the thing that he got

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Speaker 5: instilled in him. We all had that because we was

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Speaker 5: like that in the beginning.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that was different about him. And

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Speaker 4: he could tell you this if you fucking missed the slot.

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Speaker 3: Oh he was there, so like you know, somebody was

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Speaker 3: late and and they didn't.

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Speaker 1: Show up here.

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Speaker 3: He was quiet. Boy, I got it, I got parts

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Speaker 3: all of that.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. I feel like that that's right.

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Speaker 3: He was in that motherfucker like, Wayne, ain't leave that studio.

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Speaker 1: When we've done back that ass up, he stood there.

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Speaker 3: Everybody got tired, and yeah, everyone was still waiting for

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Speaker 1: Out and after backing up and he had to be

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Speaker 5: He had a whole verse he didn't want. He wanted

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Speaker 5: me to take a verse off and he didn't want

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Speaker 5: to man on it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, boy, man, yeah, that's what I wanted to know,

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Speaker 2: asking about that song back that did y'all know y'all

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Speaker 2: was making the culture classic that was gonna last.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let him ask it. Come on, bro, that story.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to be respected as MC want.

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Speaker 5: That's why I was. So that's to me him. He

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Speaker 5: was hopping on it from day one.

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Speaker 1: Like this is the joke.

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Speaker 5: He kept changing the beat like because I was killing

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Speaker 5: that motherfucker. So he changed the beat and we get

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Speaker 5: the Nashville and I'm like, say, Bro, I go in

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Speaker 5: the room with Slim. I said, he just paid me

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Speaker 5: the beat. He said, I sound I said, it's awesome.

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Speaker 5: But and he what I wrapped to Bro? I don't

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Speaker 5: I sound like I wrapped into another beat.

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Speaker 1: You gotta let me do something, do something else. He

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Speaker 1: walked in the door. The nigga came here, winding nigga

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Speaker 1: busting the door and he winded like a bitch.

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Speaker 5: Yea chill, said, Bro, come on, b let me man

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Speaker 5: look at him fresh, letting that nigga come on, but

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Speaker 5: let him go get one shot at it.

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Speaker 1: I go in that bitch. I ain't got nothing, nigga,

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Speaker 1: you ain't even thinking now you're just talking. Ship.

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Speaker 5: I get that bitch.

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Speaker 1: I'm there. I see this nigga that said, damn, that's crazy. Man,

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Speaker 1: give me anothering mine.

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Speaker 5: I walk outside and start drinking and ship, I get

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Speaker 5: drunk as some motherfucker. I come back in that bitch,

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Speaker 5: bounce it up. I got one word I said, because

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Speaker 5: you're working. What's some man said your fans j I'm

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Speaker 5: just winning that one word. Yeah, I got yelled everything

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Speaker 5: that nigga come out the bitch, he can open the door.

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Speaker 1: See that's what the funk I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: That ship going.

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Speaker 1: Don't change this word.

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Speaker 2: That's bro, that shouldn't. And then in every movie now

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Speaker 2: like that is insane. Bro, like that record is insane.

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Speaker 2: Then you got bling bling Come on, man.

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Speaker 5: I tell people laying a lot of our songs, that's

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Speaker 5: that's hits. It's either he.

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Speaker 1: Came in there with the hook already, you know, put

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Speaker 1: the guy him.

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Speaker 5: It's Johnny on the spot and I'm drinking alcohol and

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Speaker 5: I'm just talking ship the best songs.

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Speaker 1: That's the best songs, bro, just ship.

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Speaker 4: I woke up out my sleep I wrote Blink Blink

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Speaker 4: in my fucking sleep, and and it just kept. I

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Speaker 4: was like, if I don't record this, motherfucker.

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Speaker 3: We ain't gonna remember it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, if we don't,

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Speaker 4: if I don't record this right now, we ain't gonna

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Speaker 4: remember that.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So when they came in the studio, I had already

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Speaker 4: laid the hook and all of that ship. I was like, bro,

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Speaker 4: just one of them, you know what I'm saying. And

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Speaker 4: you get that like, yeah, it's one of them.

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Speaker 1: Argument, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think this guy ultimate classics, Like bro, we we

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Speaker 2: we took from y'all, like hearing cash Money is a man.

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Speaker 1: He had the Navy member Jay say that same ship.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Bro, There's so many times he has made like, you know,

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Speaker 4: like some ship that's from cash Money, where I'm just like.

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Speaker 3: That, lets you know that your ears is to the street.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, I'm like, damn, and not just our shit,

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Speaker 4: just references from songs where you like damn, you know

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Speaker 4: all the down South classics and you know what.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Yeah, telling we was up here, gat up

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Speaker 2: bootes with the piped out get you to my g all,

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Speaker 2: that ship was rocking up here like I remember Rest

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Speaker 2: in Peace, IRV Gotti. Man, Yeah, her first time I

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Speaker 2: did Summer Jam, Earth was on us, Bro, Yo, he

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Speaker 2: was on this the first time y'all did Summer Jam.

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Speaker 2: They announced cash money at Summer Jam, Juvenile y'all headline

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Speaker 2: and all that.

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Speaker 1: Right, we was in the office, We was in.

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Speaker 2: The studio, matter of fact, and how video was playing,

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Speaker 2: and that nigga looked at me.

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Speaker 1: We all in the studio.

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Speaker 2: Nigga said, Yo, if this nigga come on that stage,

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Speaker 2: that same rag gold teeth, looking like he straight off

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Speaker 2: the block.

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Speaker 1: He's like, Bro, they taking over. Yeah, we gonna. He

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Speaker 1: looked at us like, Yo, We're gonna have a fucking problem.

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Speaker 2: And y'all niggas came out there and did exactly that,

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Speaker 2: and we looked like, oh ship, these guys is head

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Speaker 2: they arrived, Like was that a thing for down South

442
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 2: to be accepted in New York?

443
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: Did you just fell out? Yeah?

444
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 3: You let him tell you the tunnel story, nigga.

445
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 1: It meant the world of me.

446
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 5: Bro, the tunnel, especially me because I watched Crush Groove

447
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 5: and so I knew about the tunnel, but it scared

448
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 5: me to death because you know, one of the main

449
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 5: things everybody told me was, Bro, if you could rock

450
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 5: the tunnel, you made it. That's and the last person

451
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 5: when I came out and they said, man, and this

452
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 5: ninety ninety ninety dass cat to rock the tunnel from

453
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 5: from how the state was Snoop Dogg. They like shy damn.

454
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 5: And I'm thinking of all the artists, the damn he

455
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 5: like bro, Snoop dog he came and shut it.

456
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: Damn.

457
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 5: That's the only person. And they told me a couple

458
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 5: of weeks ago, rough Riders came through and shut it down. Yeah,

459
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 5: and they said, man, they had so they had like

460
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 5: five murders and.

461
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 1: Something like that.

462
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: I was like, what shut it down?

463
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: The ship that bitch down. They're making me. They scaring

464
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: me with the ship now.

465
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, it's the one thing when you get on

466
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 5: standing uh huh, don't sing nothing else, sing high.

467
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 1: That's it. Man. We got on that motherfucker. We turned.

468
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 5: Banked up my shirt off ship rocking and we tried

469
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 5: to play something else.

470
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. It was not working.

471
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: I think it was like Tuesday and Thursdays. It was

472
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 3: like it was like, man, cut that bitch run.

473
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: It was like five times it was happy. I remember,

474
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: y'all in the tunnel. Is the bottle that was flowing

475
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: through the crowd.

476
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 5: Don't trying to get my barges. Funny ship was my pop.

477
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 5: You know, my pop was in the back. You know,

478
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 5: it's like a train station. My pops in the back.

479
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 5: You're looking at the roof for ship.

480
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 3: He said, damn, yeah, he's small.

481
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: Ash fucking roof is right right there. Yeah right. He said,

482
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: you know what so fun about this whole situation? I

483
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: said what he said, I'm so fucking drunk, fight breakout.

484
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: I can't do nothing for my.

485
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 5: That was a.

486
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: He said, I want to get out of here. This

487
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: is roof making me this.

488
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 4: This Pops kept saying, you know, this bitch is not

489
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 4: built right, And I was like, man, you fucking.

490
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 5: With us because he was because because he didn't know

491
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 5: that old last building.

492
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: Bro like yo, like, do y'all feel like when it

493
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 2: comes down to the Southern movement? Of course you had

494
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: no limit, but y'all pushed it a little further, I

495
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: feel like y'all, like No Limit came out that that

496
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 2: army gangster. Yeah, we we putting New Orleans on the map,

497
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: but y'all came out where. I feel like how Biggie

498
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: and Jay changed New York. Y'all made it fly.

499
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: We get money where we bosses do.

500
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: Y'all feel like y'all influenced that way with the southern

501
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: Southern hip hop.

502
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the gift in the curse. For me, it is,

503
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 4: and it's a giffer in the curse. And on some

504
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: shit was good about me and Julie. We might disagree

505
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 4: about something, but it's the gift in the curse. And

506
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 4: let me explain it. The thing was, I was looking

507
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 4: for a category that wasn't done yet.

508
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: The superfly.

509
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying. We got fly, fuck fly

510
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: this superfly. You gotta fucking Cadillac. I got a space

511
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 4: shutter on some other shit.

512
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: You know what. You was pushing an envelope.

513
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: So I'm like, we need a category. That's now. The

514
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: curse of it is this for a long time, that's

515
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 3: all hip hop has been since that. That was our shit.

516
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: We didn't mean for anybody to take our ship and

517
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 4: now y'all think that's what hip hop is. That was

518
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 4: our ship, and we also proved we was way more

519
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 4: you know, creative than that.

520
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: That was me and baby shit.

521
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 4: That wasn't Jeweviy, that wasn't the hot boys, That wasn't

522
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 4: you know when we got together. We might have did

523
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 4: some crazy ass songs, but we still had lyrical, we

524
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 4: still had the streets, We still had you know. And

525
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: but but the curse, like I said, was that shit

526
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 4: made everybody feel like this is what hip hop is

527
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 4: supposed to be.

528
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: Now y'all definitely was Waving Man. And then for a moment, you.

529
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: Know, at one time both of you stepped away from

530
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: cash money, you know what I'm saying.

531
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: Like, and then now both of you, I love to

532
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: see you know what I mean.

533
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 2: We all go through our ups downs, and I love

534
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 2: to see us come around that corner and anybody ever

535
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: to make amends and get.

536
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: Back to it. But what was that like going off

537
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: on your own?

538
00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 3: Like yeah, like somebody that.

539
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 5: You got, you put all your trust in your love

540
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 5: and you expect, you know, expect paperwork and things to

541
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 5: be right because you think that they not only your friends,

542
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 5: they are.

543
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: Your lawyers and they run your business affairs and everything

544
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: like that.

545
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 5: And what it does is it creates an NBA animosity

546
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 5: with somebody.

547
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: That you really got a lot of love for.

548
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 5: And instead of you just walking away and saying, man,

549
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 5: you know, I'm gonna do it this way, you got

550
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 5: an attitude about it now. And instead of you doing

551
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 5: it the business way, now you're jumping on songs and

552
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 5: saying I'm gonna do this person that, I'm gonna do

553
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 5: this person this, And at the at.

554
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: The end of the day, you know you don't want

555
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: to do none of that, that's right. And then you

556
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: find out that a he ain't know what he was

557
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: doing either, you know. So while you you're building up.

558
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 5: All this hate towards somebody, you gotta realize what they

559
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 5: was going through too.

560
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: So you know, for me, it's like, man, I learned

561
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: to live and that lived after so many too many.

562
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 5: Years past, and you keep on crying and whining about

563
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 5: something that you know you ain't gonna get.

564
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Why hoping on that man?

565
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Go have a go have

566
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 5: that conversation with that man and let him know how

567
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 5: you really feel and see where that takes It might

568
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 5: take you back to friendship like me.

569
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it might take you to like I fuck him,

570
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: I still hate them, you know what I mean? That

571
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: shoot with me. I can't hold hate my heart. I can't.

572
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: I can't like Oh yeah, I feel like I'm blocking

573
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: my blessing and it really is. It holds you back, man,

574
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It set you back just

575
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: sitting there harboring hate for no reason, like you know

576
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like the game, I feel like we

577
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: all grew together and learned this together. It was no course,

578
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: there was no schools, some class that taught us this shit.

579
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: So a lot of us learn faster than others, and

580
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 2: a lot of like in school, you know what I mean,

581
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: a lot of us learn slower than others. But I

582
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: feel like when you friends and you from the same

583
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: neighborhood and y'all really love each other, money can't change that,

584
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: you know what I meantime had.

585
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: A home and un man, damn, I just looked out

586
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: for this.

587
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 5: He do some bullshit, But you bro still steal your

588
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 5: because you ain't about to let that That exactly We're

589
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 5: gonna fall out.

590
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: Some ship that ain't gonna be with it exactly what

591
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's how I feel.

592
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 4: I think the most misunderstood thing about hip hop, you know,

593
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 4: to the world and other cultures is it's the fucking

594
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 4: cousin to street business. Because it's the cousin because a

595
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 4: lot of us came from street ship and we stepped

596
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: into the arena that that's all we know is street ship.

597
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: That's what we was trained to.

598
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we operate that way until we learn better,

599
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So no other genre of

600
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 4: music gonna understand that this ship is built off we're

601
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 4: the cousin.

602
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: To street ship.

603
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 4: Like you said that, Like country music, Yeah, they ain't

604
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 4: gonna get that. They didn't have to go through that.

605
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 4: They don't, you know, No, no motherfucker and country ever

606
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: you know was a dude that was a drug dealer

607
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: that puts somebody on and started the.

608
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: Record was probably was out there time.

609
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying, Isa.

610
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: And roping rope nigs this week twelve Hondred, you don't

611
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: know why.

612
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 4: Who the fuck all of us got somebody who my

613
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: homeboy Keith, you know, Keith was the drug dealers out there,

614
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: middler that you know, but that he tried to put

615
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 4: money back into doing.

616
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: Some righteous ship.

617
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yo, that's crazy to say that, because Jay,

618
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: we used to call when we used to get booked

619
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: by promoters that we knew was drug dealers that trying

620
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: to clean their money get some We used to call

621
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: them gt P, gangster's term promoter. So niggas used to

622
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: be like, Yo, we know this's gonna be one of

623
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: those wild nights.

624
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: And gt P all take a picture with my daughter,

625
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: my nephew too. That's right, my mom's here toobody who

626
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: came there with him. All't got it? He got.

627
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: And that's what I mean.

628
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 4: Soon seven for both of y'all said that that shit

629
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 4: don't happen at other jobs.

630
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: You gotta be crushing.

631
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 4: Well, you like, you better take a picture with this

632
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: nigga because he might go crazy tonight and we need

633
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 4: to get our money and get the fuck out of here.

634
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 5: No, that's them niggas got them tools, yo, nigga said

635
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 5: Milwaukee and the walk, Yeah, Milwaukee. Them niggas is ain't

636
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 5: born with a penscol By Gene Kennedy. It's like got

637
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 5: they say, white men born with a jump shot. Black

638
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 5: niggas born with a dribble them niggas in fucking Milwaukee,

639
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 5: shit car.

640
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: They ball with a pistol, but they ain't you bugget yo.

641
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: But like one thing I love like a lot I'm

642
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: watching a lot of us are the legends everybody. You know,

643
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: we transition into media, you know, becoming bigger personalities than.

644
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: We were on the music. How has that been for

645
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: y'all stepping in with the you know, still four hundred degrees.

646
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 5: It's a different kind of animal. Bro's Texas pretty nice, but.

647
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: Uh, talk about it, talk about.

648
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 5: Hey man, I think it's great for us, you know,

649
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 5: as allist man, to give, to give the people that

650
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 5: other side of us. Sure, you know we locked in

651
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,239
Speaker 5: the box. We all open minded, we do it right.

652
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 5: We have fun size we got, we got bad size

653
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 5: we got. You know what I'm saying. We're human just

654
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 5: like them. A lot of people really want to know that.

655
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 5: They want to know if you live the same life

656
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 5: and have the same struggles like they do, how.

657
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 3: You feel about that the same ship?

658
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I just people want to know that you

659
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 4: go through the same ship they go through. That's right,

660
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 4: you know, to be successful, you gotta you gotta actually

661
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 4: say that they're going to be good days and bad

662
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: days and accept that ship. It don't matter what you got,

663
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 4: they're going to be good days and bad days. And

664
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: it's so much easier when you actually saying to somebody.

665
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: That that happens, broke, she.

666
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: She don't know, she'll respect, she'll respect part time.

667
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I get it. I get it.

668
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

669
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 4: So when you say to somebody like, listen, my life

670
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: is just like yours. I got things going on, good

671
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 4: and bad.

672
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's right there. That's a prime example. Yeah,

673
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: yeah all the time. Bro.

674
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: Like, I'm a firm believer in good days and bad days,

675
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: and success is how you measure it. You know, a

676
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: lot of people think money is success. Me I'm a

677
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: firm believer health and wealth is success.

678
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

679
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 2: Health first, because to make money and be laid up

680
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: in the bed is asonized pointless, you know what I mean.

681
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 4: So when you think about your your happiest time in life,

682
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 4: some of them it didn't cost you nothing. It might

683
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: have just been at a picnic when you was with

684
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 4: your family and your friends, your closest friends, and y'all

685
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: had a good time and you you and you realize

686
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 4: when you get older like that ship really didn't cost nothing.

687
00:32:59,240 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

688
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 5: Success is like running in a marathon, right and don't

689
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 5: don't don't be the person to win it, but still

690
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 5: across the finish line, that's right.

691
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: You're in it to see that, you know what.

692
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 5: I'm right, man, So the goals with successful to me

693
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 5: is setting the goal and accomplishing there.

694
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: That's right, man, that's dope.

695
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: Man.

696
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: Being from where y'all from, we all, like I said,

697
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: we all got the same story from beginning, but we

698
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: all didn't walk the same path. So knowing the struggle,

699
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: the you know what I mean, the burden of being

700
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: from the South, not from the.

701
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: New York or you know, up in the East.

702
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: It's a little easier to get a record deal, So

703
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: what you had to go through the breakthrough to do

704
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: what y'all.

705
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: Did and accomplish so much.

706
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: Man, I know y'all got to sit there some days

707
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: and just be in the crib like yo, man, Yeah,

708
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: Julie whatever, Yo.

709
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: You know we them niggas right, Oh, I do that

710
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: all the time.

711
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 4: I'm a speech guy. I'm a speech guy. I'm like, bro,

712
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: I don't give a funk about what's going on.

713
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: Nigga super over, that's right. That's right.

714
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 5: Thinking about where I came from, the King of the

715
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 5: food stamp Yo book king say, I'm the king of

716
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 5: the yo. I used to yo bro. You know, if

717
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 5: you've seen the shorter you liked in the.

718
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: Story, you had that book, you wait for a quarter.

719
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: No, I waited outside just shorty left. I wanted to

720
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: see the white note.

721
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: I needed them green.

722
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: Looking at you like, hey, on that left, we got

723
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: these greens. So where I was from, you had to

724
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 2: hide that white book.

725
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: What not?

726
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: Where I'm from, I would shoot you like talking nor

727
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: sixty It's sixty five dollar, you know what I'm saying.

728
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: So I'm from the project. So we never had that.

729
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: Everybody had dirty shoes and ain't getting it for Christmas?

730
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 5: Ye you little red fox said when Christmas came around

731
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 5: about we went balls.

732
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: We would have nothing to play with. Yeah, you figured

733
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: out you If we wasn't boys, we had none to

734
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: play with. Real ship.

735
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 2: So when people talk about hip hop, where does many

736
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: fresh and juvenile chapter sit in that history?

737
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: The greats right? I used to be crying about this ship.

738
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: I think I'm that man to to that.

739
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: I used to be quiet and modest.

740
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 4: But you know, I feel like that shit, don't get

741
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 4: you nowhere. If you don't like me, fuck you. I'm

742
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 4: a bad motherfucker. I've done some incredible ship.

743
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: And they're like, you need to know, you need to know.

744
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 5: And as far as me, I feel like I'm still

745
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 5: right my script. Bro, I'm one of them niggas died.

746
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 5: I ain't settling it.

747
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm looking at you how I look at whole How

748
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: the fuck you niggas still got balls?

749
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: Because that ship with Meghan is like, my man, you

750
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: still spitting?

751
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: Then you be in dropping joints, just ride around, cruising

752
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: through the city like I got a little virtual for

753
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: these and spend liva still like.

754
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: Man, that's you know what, You get to the point

755
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: to where it's fun to do it. That's and that's

756
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: what it is.

757
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 5: I'm just getting the kickout doing it. Really like the

758
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 5: youngsters saying, I ain't gonna lie you. I get I

759
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 5: get text. I got a text from from John Queek's

760
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 5: ride FO nine and I see you.

761
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: You don't need to fing throat. That's what that's what

762
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: it is, and I love that man.

763
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: So speaking like that, what you want the next chapter

764
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: of artists to learn from your era to help them on.

765
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: Their path you can write your own script.

766
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 5: Man. They making rules, They trying to make the rules

767
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 5: and make rules. You don't see no rules and no

768
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 5: other genre rap. So I think we should do like

769
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 5: these these colleges and these these these big institutions are doing.

770
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 5: Get that money, man, any I l money to see

771
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 5: these casts. Get get it all, you know, figure out

772
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 5: a way to incorporate business with with what you're doing.

773
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 5: And don't don't look at it as you know, just

774
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: rapping right, look at look at us rapping to open

775
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 5: up all these other doors for you, to create all

776
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 5: this revenue stream for not only you, for your family.

777
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: It's right man, businesses man. So that's one thing I

778
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: talk about investing, because we can't wrap forever.

779
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: You can't you That would be me cross your t's

780
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 3: and dot your eyes.

781
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 4: Sort out early, you know if we already told you,

782
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: like every genre of something goes through something to make

783
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 4: it better, you know what I'm saying. So we did

784
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 4: homeboy business for you not to do it. You know

785
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 4: what I'm saying about it, for you not to do it.

786
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

787
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: We did homeboy business. You do it.

788
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: That's in the gym, bro. We did that ship for

789
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: you not to do it.

790
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, ship, because that ship.

791
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: Don't work out, you know.

792
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 4: And we love our people, we love our brothers, but

793
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 4: when you're not trained to do something, you're not gonna

794
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 4: make it work to its best ability. I can't let

795
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: my dude, Killer Kevin be my manager because I want

796
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 4: to take him off the streets. That nigga don't know

797
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 4: nothing about managing.

798
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 6: Now killing ship, they gonna get you a CA and

799
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 6: that moving me out of another Killer Kevin production bitch,

800
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 6: and I'm like camp Now we gotta fight again.

801
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: Getting no corporate gigs.

802
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: Just keep on yelling another killer.

803
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 2: N We gotta tell cam Chill Calf, We're gonna corporate

804
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 2: Calf calve.

805
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to kill a.

806
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: So besides still foe honey, you know what I mean?

807
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: What's next for my old gs man? What's next? What

808
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: people could expect from the from Yeah?

809
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 5: Well, for me, my album is coming out on my

810
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 5: birthday to twenty six the balling point, Okay, say twenty

811
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 5: sixth of March, Yeah, March.

812
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about, my ge, That's what I'm saying.

813
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 5: We're still chasing, We're still right yeah, yeah, I got

814
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 5: that coming out, and my corgnak is getting ready to

815
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 5: drop my yack.

816
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 3: That's right.

817
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 5: Two months what's the name, what's the name it's called yet?

818
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 5: Why see I kept my yack.

819
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what.

820
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: That's fine.

821
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: I like that.

822
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

823
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 5: And uh my other my other thing that I got

824
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 5: going on is I'm going on to a April second.

825
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 5: They got five dates, so God bless dope man more bags.

826
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just disturbing the peace out here. Bro, I'm

827
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: jaying all over the country, bar misfoots, barbecues.

828
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: Anybody who got that bag and is there, and now

829
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: you gotta put a helmet on.

830
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: They're giving out one hundred and fifty thousand to get

831
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: you a helmet. Wet. They got the mouse, they got

832
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: the other. We gotta find me, yeah help.

833
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm killing calf managing Many Fresh only with

834
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 2: the helmet on the No Bow Corporate production.

835
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, the helmet.

836
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 5: Were gonna give up a danger mouse helmet something word

837
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 5: gonna create a.

838
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 3: Whole other so get Yeah.

839
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 4: So I got I got a reckless weekend that I'm doing.

840
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 4: And what reckless weekend is? I like, I reach out

841
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: to artists who want to do it, and we got

842
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 4: from Monday Friday morning to Monday morning to do songs

843
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 4: and whatever.

844
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: We do, we put it out and we split it

845
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty. There is no middle man.

846
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 4: There is no you know, nobody that that no script

847
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: that somebody could tell you don't do the fucking song

848
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: that way or whatever, and all of that.

849
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: You start on Friday morning, we ind on Monday morning.

850
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 3: I need a reckless recrest weekend, reckless weekend, reckless week

851
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 3: You see my daughter calling me on this.

852
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: She reckless every weekend, So we need a reckless weekend.

853
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: Let's get it, man.

854
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all pulling up. Man, it's an honor to

855
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: being the presence of your legends. Like I said, I'm

856
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: a fan first. And you know, we had a relationship

857
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: behind the scenes with the Yeah That Man. Y'all continue

858
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: to stay blessed, healthy, key winning man.

859
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: Much love to both of y'all.

860
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: March twenty sixth, the album Yeah Reckless Weekend bleak dropping

861
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: on there.

862
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: We don't care.

863
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: We all solo highlight at us. The money is in

864
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: the bag towards it everything. It's rock solid man, many

865
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: fresh juwe you know what it is. Legends. For more

866
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Speaker 2: podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or

867
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Speaker 2: wherever you listen to your favorite shows app and you

868
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: can follow me on any social media platform under the

869
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: name Memphis Bleak.

870
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Speaker 1: You see anybody fraud in flagging