1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Hello, fut around and find out family, welcome back. 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: Today. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 3: We have a very very very special guest. Two of them, 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 3: we had, Miss Jennifer a. Z and Katie five. 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: Great to be here. 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Listen, I have. 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 3: To run through these accolades. I have to run through 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: your intro. 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: So, Katie, I'm gonna start with you. 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Mine Shorter. 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: Everyone knows that you are Asy's mama. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: However, I'm gonna run through this awesome basketball intro of yours. 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 3: So acc rookie of the Year at NC State, then 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: transferred to Georgetown for three seasons where you scored sixteen 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy one points. Recently honored as a Big 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: East legend at the Big East Tournament that I had 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: the pleasure to witness as the first Georgetown Hoya. 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: To be drafted in the WNBA. Come on, oh, Katie fun. 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 3: All right, we have Miss Jennifer a Zy. Olympic gold medalist, 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: NCAA champion and Final four MVP with Stanford, two time 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: Feeble World Champion, WNBA All Star, and Women's Basketball Hall 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: of Famer. 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: Come on, Jennifer Azy WHOA. 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for joining us on the pod. 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: It is honestly on honor to host with both of you, 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun. So first things First, As is 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: named after Jennifer Azy Katie. What did Jennifer represent for 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: you that made you choose that name? 29 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: Actually, this was just in a speech that I gave 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: the other day. First, I think we run into people 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 4: when we're thinking about names that we automatic are like, 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 4: we'll never name my kid. So I wanted to do 33 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 4: it a little bit differently. There wasn't a ton of 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 4: basketball on TV growing up. I think the first thing 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: that I saw was a documentary maybe on your nineteen 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: ninety national championship team, So that was first like wow, 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 4: women's basketball on TV. And then fast forward to when 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: I was a senior in high school, they did the 39 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 4: I think it was a WBCA All American game or 40 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 4: the Nike one. I'm not sure, but it was a 41 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: doubleheatter with the women's national team. You just played China 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: and they sat us at a table. And you probably 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: don't remember this at all, but they sat us. They 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: came on the bus and said who's your favorite player 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: on the national team, and then they sat us at 46 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: a table and I was super quiet, super shy, and 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: I just sat there and watched you interact with all 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: these people you didn't know, the way that you spoke, 49 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: the character that you displayed, just like the actual, just 50 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: human that you were, on top of being a really 51 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: good basketball player. Plus, my maiden name is Smirka Duffy. 52 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: I have red hair, unique things. I just like them. 53 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 4: So it's like, that would be a really cool name 54 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: for a girl. And I just knew right then if 55 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 4: I ever had a girl, I would name Razy. I 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: thought about changing the spelling so people didn't butcher it 57 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: and do more phonetic, but then I was like, that 58 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 4: defeats the purpose, so we're not doing that. 59 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is I think naming her easy 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: has helped people pronounce my name correctly, so I appreciate it. 61 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 4: I can need to help. 62 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: This is really we're getting the real, Miss. 63 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: Jeffiface my background here, so we're all real today. 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's very real today. So okay, you and 65 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: Eyes had met, so you guys didn't know each other. 66 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: When we actually met too later my senior year, you 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: guys were practicing Colorado Springs and I was trying out, 68 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: not successfully for some USA team. It's okayed to successful, I. 69 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: Believe it or not. This is what no one ever 70 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: talks about. But you know I tried out also in 71 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: ninety two and I was cut from the team. I 72 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: was Actually my claim to fame is that I was 73 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: the last player sent home, So i've I was, you know, 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: I was sent home from there as well. 75 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: We have something there. We go. 76 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: A lot of things, a lot of things. So at 77 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: what point, Katie, did you realize that Asy would follow 78 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: in these basketball footsteps? 79 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: You know, I think when you have kids, you just 80 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 4: want them to be happy, right, You want them to 81 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 4: find their passion. And for Asy, we tried a bunch 82 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 4: of different things, and she took the basketball. I think 83 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 4: because it was more social. She really liked her teammates 84 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: and that drew her to the game and kept her 85 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: loving practices and that kind of stuff. I thought she 86 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 4: was awful when she started. Tim claims he knew she'd 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 4: be good or whatever, but like she was awful. I 88 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 4: would say. She played in a tournament when she was 89 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: in third grade, and she played. She played two years 90 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 4: up anyhow, but with a sister program, our point guard's 91 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 4: dad's program. Our team wasn't going to Nationals and his 92 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 4: team was to. We asked if he could have Asy 93 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 4: and Carly. And at that tournament, she really like just 94 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: kept stepping up in ways that I didn't know she 95 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: was capable of. And I was like, oh, well, okay, 96 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 4: she could get a free education out of this. That 97 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 4: would be phenomenal, right, And that was like the endgame 98 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 4: at that point. Didn't think anything past that, like we 99 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 4: just won't have to pay for college. 100 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: I feel you on and that that was right. Save 101 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: a bill. 102 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: So Jennifer had like, what was your reaction when you 103 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: found out that someone named their daughter after you? 104 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: Well, it's better than having a dog named after you. 105 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: The Ada at Stanford named his dog Asy. And then 106 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: at first I thought it was a joke because it's 107 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: like that's such a big deal, like that's I don't 108 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: I didn't take it lightly. It was like, wow, that 109 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 2: is that's amazing. And I think Katie, even hearing you 110 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: talk about maybe feeling like you had a sense of 111 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: me and who I was versus just you know, an 112 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: athlete on the court or something, and that makes it, 113 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: I think, feel even that much more special. And I 114 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: had the opportunity to meet Katie and Asy when I 115 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: was coaching at you and so I got to meet, 116 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: you know more, really meet you, right, like maybe we 117 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: are past cross but just seeing what a great parent 118 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: that you were with her and obviously continue to be. 119 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: But that was kind of early on in her journey. 120 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: And you know, you never know how your kids are 121 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: going to turn out. And I can totally relate to 122 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: just wanting your kids to be into something that they love, 123 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: that they're passionate about. Like I have a nine year 124 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: old son and he is all about basketball right now. 125 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: We tried tennis. He was really good at it, but 126 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: he wanted the social part too, and so it's just 127 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: fun to see. I think where your kids can go. 128 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 2: And I think, Katie, you guys have done a tremendous 129 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: job with your daughter because you know that doesn't happen 130 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: just by chance. That's your support, your love, your being 131 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: there for her and you know, giving giving her your all. 132 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: And I think when you look at successful kids like 133 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: your daughter, you have at least one parent if not 134 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: obviously too behind them believing in them, you know, more 135 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: than anything unconditionally. 136 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely takes a lot of time and effort, 137 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: but with anything, any kind of parenting takes time and effort. Yeah, 138 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: I need We're fortunate that, you know, our kids are 139 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 4: fortunate to have to involve parents. Some days probably they 140 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: think it's not so fortunate. But down the line though, 141 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: the reflecting definitely. 142 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: Jennifer. You also have a five year old daughter. Correct 143 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: did she play basketball? 144 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: So she's now getting into it. She's almost six. But 145 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: you know, I actually coached both kids soccer teams, and 146 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: that was sort of crazy because I love that. But 147 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: I had my son's group for like four years, and 148 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: I think we lost maybe two games, and it was 149 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: so much fun for me and him to go through 150 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: it together because it's not my sport, so it was 151 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: like we were really kind of doing it together. But 152 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: I got to influence him and his group of friends 153 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: with all the great things that I learned, you know, 154 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: from sports, and that taught me as a you know, 155 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: as a human being. Now, my daughter, when I started 156 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: coaching her, she was just jumping on my back and 157 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: wanted nothing to do with it, and you know, so 158 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: we'll see where she ends up. But she really has 159 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: seems to now take a liking to basketball, and you know, 160 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: we have at one point my son said, Mom, how 161 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: many hoops do we have in the house? And I 162 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I don't know, like nine, you know, 163 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: they're like hanging over the shower. But it's not just us, 164 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: it's him. He you know, wants to shoot every chance 165 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: that he gets. And so I think my daughter's seeing 166 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: all this and really how much fun we have with it, 167 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: you know, So we'll see if it if it sticks 168 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,359 Speaker 2: for her. But she also likes to dance, she likes gymnastics, 169 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: and you know, I think my job is to expose 170 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: them and find what, you know, what they really end 171 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: up liking. 172 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: Okay, if you were to name of your child, say, 173 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: if you had another one after a basketball player, who 174 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: would it be? 175 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: I mean me and probably everyone in the world, but uh, 176 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: Steph Curt I mean, you know, some more form but 177 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: like you know, uh Steph, you know one of the 178 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: step On me I'm seeing in that family. I just 179 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: I think that he is one of the greatest human 180 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: beings that I've ever met. And you know, what he's 181 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: able to do and the way that he impacts the 182 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: world is really second to Nine and obviously best shooter 183 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: of all time. 184 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 4: So I will say before we met him that we 185 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: did name our dog after him. And when was at 186 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 4: USA basketball tryouts. His mom was there with cam Bring's mom, 187 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 4: and I was like, hey, just letting you know we 188 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 4: named our dog after your family. 189 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: There we go, that's maybe I'll adopt that since I 190 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: am due to get another dog, I think pretty soon. 191 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: So yeah, I love food. 192 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: So yes, the tradition of naming pets and children after 193 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: the As name and other talented basketball players. Katie recently, 194 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: Asy just met baby As. Could you tell us more 195 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: about that? 196 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 4: So one of our former players played at University of 197 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 4: New England. After the final four last year, she sends 198 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: me a picture from Facebook saying, look what I see 199 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 4: This is one of my teammates kind of thing, and 200 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: it said Azy Alan Porter born for twenty one And 201 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 4: I was like, no way, like that is at just 202 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: another family name more, you know, there's got to be 203 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 4: some other connection. So she reached out and asked her 204 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 4: if she was actually named after a Zy and she's like, oh, 205 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: my gosh, one hundred percent. Well she's at one thousand 206 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: percent yes, And so they came over last night so 207 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: that Aisy could meet Asy. My Asy is a soup like. 208 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 4: She loves kids, loves babies, so you could pretty much 209 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 4: get her to do anything if you have a child 210 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: in front of her. And so actually, Liz the mom 211 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 4: said that the dad Jay is the one. Last a 212 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 4: year ago September, when they found out they were having 213 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 4: a girl, he's the one who suggested naming her Asy. 214 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: And then she joked around. She's like, all right, well, 215 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 4: if they win the national championship, let's do it. And 216 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: then they won and then Aisy got them op so 217 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 4: then she was like, all right, that's it. So she 218 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: was born two weeks to the day of the National 219 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 4: Championship game, and she's a cutie. 220 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 2: I love it. 221 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that's awesome. Look it started with you, Jennifer. 222 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: Now we got kids named at the easy baby Asy 223 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: gonna be super Baby, a be as. 224 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and there definitely are multiple dogs and cats named 225 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: Asian as well. 226 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: So I've definitely seen that all over socials. 227 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: Like who I will say back in the day when 228 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: I did it, I was like, yo, is she gonna 229 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 4: think like I'm stockersh. 230 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's amazing. 231 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 5: You know. 232 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 2: When she committed to Yukon, I had so many people 233 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: texting me as if she's my daughter. It was like, 234 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: you know, it's like congratulations, I'm like, wait a minute, 235 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: Like I met her once. I think she's awesome, you know, 236 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: but it's it's pretty cool to, uh, you know, think 237 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: about what this really kind of extended family feels like. 238 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: It's it's it's pretty awesome. And I know, I lost 239 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: my dad in early twenty twenty four, and he was 240 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: sort of that original girl dad, like you know, for 241 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: me growing up in the seventies and eighties when there 242 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: wasn't you know, obviously no wnba nowhere really to go. 243 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: But he saw how much I loved it, and he 244 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: put a hoop in our driveway that was slanted and 245 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: you know, he had to kind of, i'm sure, borrow 246 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: money to even get the hoop, and you know, and 247 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 2: he really was that person in my life that encouraged 248 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: me to go to Stanford, that you know, just believed 249 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 2: in me. And so I think, as this name, if 250 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: you will, continues, it's it's pretty cool for me, you know. 251 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: And I don't know where my son will, you know, 252 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 2: will end up. But my dad and I actually put 253 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 2: together his first hoop. I was coming back from a 254 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: trip from India, so we're you know, working together, putting 255 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: his little hoop together. And it's just fun to see 256 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: what basketball does. You know, it brings people together, It's 257 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: it's a really powerful sport, a great. 258 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: Beautiful And you messaged as I don't know if it 259 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 4: was when she first made the USA team or something, 260 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 4: you messaged her, emailed or something, and she's like, oh, 261 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 4: Jennifer Azy emailed me, So she thought that was super cool. 262 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: Well, I'm as proud as I can be from Afar, Like, 263 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: I just think that, you know, she has incredible character. 264 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: Her game speaks for itself. I'm sure she will be 265 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: an Olympian, which is no pressure, but you know she's 266 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: on that tack and we believe it's outstanding. 267 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's definitely her dream. I'd like to be there. So, Jennifer, 268 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 4: I have a question. 269 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: Are you an inductee of the twenty twenty six Tennessee 270 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: Sports Hall of Fame class? 271 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: Are you? 272 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: Yes? I am? 273 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: Are you? Oh my goodness, concredulations? 274 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately didn't make it there. We've got the Nines 275 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: event in Las Vegas. But yeah, it's pretty big honor 276 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: there because Tennessee sports are everything. 277 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 4: So yes, are we played in Tennessee when I was 278 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 4: in high school? Where were we? We were there? Was 279 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: a North in aalth and now I can't remember where 280 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 4: we were, of course I'm blanking, but basketball was just 281 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 4: it was amazing, Like we had good fans in our 282 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: high school. But we went to watch another game and 283 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 4: we had to park at the middle school and take 284 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: a shuttleover because it was just a pack. So that 285 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: was really cool. Then we got back to the hotel Greenville. 286 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: So as North and South Greenville we're playing each other. 287 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: We got back to our hotel and the people behind 288 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: the desk at the hotel were talking about the game, 289 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: which you know, that's like, you know, early like ninety four, 290 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 4: ninety five somewhere in there. So that was different, right, 291 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 4: You just didn't get a lot of people like that. 292 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: Weren't basketball people, just general population people talking about women's basketball. 293 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: And then I had someone come up to me that 294 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: second year that we were there and they just they 295 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 4: smirk it up, you know, and named my donald for you. 296 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: And that's why I was like, really, thank you so much. 297 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had in my high school at our state 298 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: tournament Murphy, Tennessee, we had ten thousand people. Crazy, that's crazy. 299 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: And that was back I wouldn't even say when, but 300 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: you know. 301 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 4: So then was that hard for you to leave that 302 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: go to Stanford out in like the wild basically where 303 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: there's not as much interest in women's back very hard. 304 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: I remember my first game there and I'm thinking, like, 305 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: when did the fans show up? Because you know, they 306 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: don't tell you during recruiting there's like no fans and 307 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: it wasn't when everything was broadcast at that time, and 308 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: they're like, oh, we're lucky if you know friends and 309 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: family are in town. So the team, I think before 310 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: I was part of tar Vanderver's first recruiting class, so 311 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: you know, they were building and the year before I 312 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: think the team had won three to five games or something. 313 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: You know, we were five hundred my freshman year, and 314 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: so it was scary for me and then being you know, 315 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: I still had a Southern accent. I'm from Tennessee. I 316 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: go out there, I think everybody's smarter and better and 317 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: we're terrible, and you know, and then one thing led 318 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: to another and Tar ended up, you know, recruiting some 319 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: of the best classes in the country and within you know, 320 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: three years, we won the national championship and we were 321 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: selling out Maple's pavilion. So literally went from I'm telling you, 322 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: I could count the fans on two hands from that 323 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: to eight thousand fans a gain a game at Maple's pavilion. 324 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: And I always say that Tar's a genius because she said, hey, 325 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: three is worth more than two because the three point 326 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: line came in between. You probably remember this, Kdie, but 327 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: between my freshmen and sophomore year, that's when the three 328 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: point line came in and she said, the only way 329 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna win is if we can shoot threes. So 330 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: my teammates and I lived in the gym and we 331 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: learned how to shoot threes because it just extended everything 332 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: and that's kind of how we ended up winning. But 333 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: it was hard. It was It was a really hard adjustment. 334 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 4: That is crazy. 335 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: I can't imagine a brand new like rule, a brand 336 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: new right like huge, Like literally you were playing basketball 337 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: at a really high level at the time, like one 338 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: of the highest levels. 339 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: To have something that. 340 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: Big change and be a part of the game and 341 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: now it's forever part of the game. 342 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: That is amazing. 343 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 4: That's pretty cool to say that you were in it. 344 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 4: I guess it's like if you were six on a 345 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 4: side basketball. 346 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: Although yeah, that was a little that's even more drastic, right, 347 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: But no, that was cool, And I. 348 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: Think Yukon's crazy. 349 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: Our record held for years and we start shot over 350 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: fifty percent from the floor, like we just literally shot. 351 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: And I think Yukon broke our three point record somewhere 352 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: in the like maybe twenty fifteen or sixteen, somewhere around there, 353 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: but it held for a long time. 354 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, that you. 355 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: Should get even more. 356 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: Let me go to that for sure. 357 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 3: So, Jennifer, you also are Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame finalists. 358 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: Congratulations, thank you, And I know there's an opportunity for you. 359 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: I believe you're going to get recognized or all air 360 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 3: during the final four. What does it mean to be 361 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: recognized by the Naismith Hall of Fame. 362 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not exactly recognized yet because you know, I 363 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: feel like I'm like always a bright made I've been 364 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: I've been in a timeless i don't know, a few years, 365 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: a few different times. And you know, my big thing 366 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: I think with the Nasmith Hall of Fame, and I'm 367 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: actually on one of their committees right now, is seeing 368 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: more of this you women, as you know we go 369 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: into the future, because you've now you now have all 370 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: of these generations, and you know you're going to need 371 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: a place for you know, for all the great athletes 372 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: that have you know, come, you know, not just from 373 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: my generation, but now throughout until this you know, current day. 374 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 5: I'm not competitor as if I'm in, I'm not. You know, 375 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 5: so well, we're believing, we're believing right in regardless. Yeah, 376 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 5: it's going to happen. 377 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: Is happening. 378 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: Okay, So we talked about the huge change while you 379 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 3: were playing, adding the three point line. How do you 380 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: think it's different, like the path for top women's basketball 381 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: prospects now versus when you guys were both playing. 382 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 4: I didn't. I mean, I think everything has changed so much, 383 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 4: not necessarily for the better. There's a lot, I means, 384 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 4: but I just think there's more access and visibility, and 385 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 4: I think it's easier for coaches to see who players are. 386 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: I think it's easier for players to figure out where 387 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 4: they want to go if they want to take the 388 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 4: time to find the right place for them. I know 389 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 4: for me and probably for you too. Like you're getting 390 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: recruited and you've never seen these people play, right, you 391 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 4: can't watch them on TV. You know, you have to 392 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: go there and watch a game in person, and most 393 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 4: of the time that wasn't happening. Most of our parents 394 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 4: couldn't just drop things and travel like that. So I 395 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 4: think just the visibility, and I think I don't think. 396 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 4: I mean, now you've got all the players jerseys out there, 397 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: and you see little boys wearing you know, women's jerseys, 398 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 4: which to me is a huge thing. As if we 399 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: teach boys at a young age to respect female athletes, 400 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 4: they're not going to grow up to be men that 401 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 4: tweet about getting in the kitchen. You know. 402 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm know that's right, Katie, because they can cut all 403 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 3: that out. Because when we can do all things that 404 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: man can do, do you what do you think? 405 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 2: I agree completely. I think there's more, just more access. 406 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: I always tell kids when I talk to them, if 407 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: they want to be good at anything, they have access 408 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 2: to everything. I mean, I feel like I'm more handy 409 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 2: around the house because I can just watch a YouTube video, right. 410 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: You can watch what the best athletes do now at 411 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: whatever whatever sport or whatever thing you're interested in, and 412 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: you can learn. And so I think there's just more knowledge. 413 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: Even in training. I think the way that the athletes 414 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: train now is a lot smarter, it's a lot more functional. 415 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 2: You know that I think helps just the game itself 416 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: in the way that you know, the way that people 417 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: are able to train. But I think you know, basketball 418 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: is still basketball, right. A free throw is a free 419 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: throw that has not changed in you know, since I 420 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: was playing, Katie was playing. So there are some fundamental 421 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: things that you have to do. Like my son, like 422 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 2: he'll want to go as far back as you can 423 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: and launch it, and his little it's amazing actually how 424 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: or he can shoot from. But as I've been he's 425 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 2: allowed me to kind of work with him a little bit. 426 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: Is like no master, like two feet from the basket. 427 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: Like there's some principles of getting good at this that 428 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: are that are the same. But what I noticed, and 429 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: Sue Bird said this a while ago, the ball handling, 430 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: I think is one of the things that's changed a lot. 431 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: Like we were minimal dribbles. I mean, if you you 432 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: get from A to B and you know you have 433 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: two dribbles max or whatever it is, which I still 434 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: think is good because the ball moved a lot. But 435 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: just the way that athletes now can handle the ball 436 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: I think has changed a lot. And they're bigger, strong, 437 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: like I think the athleticism is is definitely. 438 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: There more technology, more knowledge how to become a better athlete. Jennifer, 439 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: what do you see an Acy's game that feels familiar? 440 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: I think if you know, I don't know that it's 441 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: necessarily like, I mean, she can shoot the ball, like 442 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: that's a you know, that's a given. But she's she's 443 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: definitely a stronger player than I was, Like, she is 444 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 2: so physical, so strong, you know, she can play multiple positions. 445 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: And but I I would say that if there's a 446 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: common thread between us, it's it's it's the desire to win. 447 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: It's that whatever you're doing, you're going to try to win, 448 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 2: and you're going to try to get the most out 449 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: of the people around you and be that team player 450 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: and ultimately the goals to win a championship. Right, Like, 451 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: as much as she has the accolades, as much as 452 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: there's a lot going on, I see her as someone 453 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: that is a winner and that wants to win. 454 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: I know she's gonna love hearing this back. 455 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: Can you what part of your experience did you try 456 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 3: to pass down to a Z And is there anything 457 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: you wanted to go differently? 458 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 4: I think just the work ethic, right, and just put 459 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 4: in you know, I always say, consistent effort over time 460 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 4: is what we're going for, or not eight hours one 461 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: day and you know, nothing for the next two weeks. 462 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 4: So just you know, consistently do a little bit more, 463 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 4: whether it's been you know, ten minutes a day, do 464 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 4: bull handling, or shoot an extra twenty five shots after practice, 465 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 4: like those are the things we started with when she 466 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 4: started playing. And that was more just to kind of 467 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 4: teach that life lesson of hard work and persistence, whether 468 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: she was going to be good at basketball or not. 469 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 4: So I think that and I think that took maybe 470 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: a little too well. I think sometimes she needs to 471 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 4: breathe and not be so hard on herself and so 472 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 4: try to be so perfect. But you know what did 473 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 4: I want to be different? I wanted her to be 474 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 4: in an environment where women's basketball was respected. And I 475 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 4: think that's more prevalent nowadays than when I played and 476 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 4: where I played, But I think there are still some 477 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 4: some schools where you know, men's basketball football take like 478 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 4: way higher priority and the women kind of get you know, 479 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 4: left to the side a little bit. So I wanted 480 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 4: her to be somewhere where she felt valued, where she 481 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 4: felt like the work and effort that she put in 482 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 4: although she can't jump aside as the guys and don't 483 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 4: that you know that that extra time they're putting in 484 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 4: is the same, and I wanted that to. 485 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: Be realcting ladies. The ladies is dunking now. Yeah, the 486 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: ladies is dunking now. 487 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 2: You know. I feel like I should just talk to 488 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: you offline too and pick your brain more, Katie, because 489 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 2: you know, it's interesting with two things. When I was coaching, 490 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: I was head coach at USF for six years, and 491 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: I all the players told me they want to play professionally. 492 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: So I was like, well, if you're going to listen 493 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: to anyone, listen to me, because I've done it. So 494 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 2: I would say like, okay, meet me fifteen minutes before practice, 495 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: stay with me fifteen minutes after practice one or the other, 496 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 2: and I can help you get there. And it was again, 497 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: it's to your point, Katie, it's those little you know 498 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: in that fifteen minutes suddenly is like, you know, fifty 499 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 2: hours if you really you know, if you start to 500 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: add it up, and so that's I think how you 501 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: master a skill. And in my time at USF, two 502 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: players did it. So those two players ended up being 503 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 2: our most successful players, and with Maclin. With my son, now, 504 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: I'm cautious to not really try to let him kind 505 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 2: of ask me, but what I've told him is kind 506 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: of the same thing. We both wake up early in 507 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: the morning. Do you want me to rebound for you? 508 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: Because you'll get a lot out of ten or fifteen 509 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: minutes where I can just rebound for you, pass it 510 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: back to you, you know whatever. And then I heard 511 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: him bragg into his friends. My mom and I get 512 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: up and we shoot for an hour every morning, which 513 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: is not true, but I think instilling those behaviors early 514 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: without again, I'm going to call you offline because without 515 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: overdoing it right, because you know you've been successful, so 516 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 2: you know what it takes. But I guess maybe can 517 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: I ask you the question, like, where's the line that 518 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: you feel like you didn't overstep to where she would 519 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: just kind of not want to do it anymore? Or 520 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: was there a line? 521 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 522 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 4: I definitely. I can't say that it was all so easy, 523 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 4: but I do think, and so I do. I train, 524 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 4: That's what I do. So I see a lot of 525 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 4: parents come through and then like it kind of just 526 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: makes me twitchy. A little when parents are like, well, 527 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: I'm not going to force my kid to practice outside 528 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 4: of whatever, And I'm like, but you're paying for them 529 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 4: to play, you're paying for them to train, you're taking 530 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 4: time out of your day to drive them to practice, 531 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 4: to stay in the gyms all weekend on tournaments, to 532 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: pay to get in, like they owe you a little something. 533 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 4: And so you know, I said, so, if your kid 534 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 4: comes home and doesn't want to do math homework, you're 535 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 4: good with that, right, Like that's cool because we're just 536 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 4: gonna let them do what they want to do. And 537 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 4: they said, no, they got to do their math homework. 538 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 4: And so my thought is if they if they say 539 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 4: you want to play something, or you say this is 540 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 4: my goal, it's our job as parents to hold you 541 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 4: accountable until you change that goal. Right, So, if you 542 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 4: say you want to be good at basketball, we all 543 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 4: know there's days we don't want to get up and 544 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 4: do what we're supposed to do. But because we've built 545 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 4: the life habits and the discipline, we get up and 546 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 4: do it. And that's what success looks like. And so 547 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 4: I think more importantly then whether you reach your goals 548 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: or not, is building that life habit you say you 549 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 4: want you say you want to be a three point shooter. Well, 550 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 4: in order to do that, we've got to master two 551 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 4: feet in out. I was literally just talking to a 552 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 4: divisional player the other day about that. I'm like, we're 553 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: gonna make you a great shooter. You're super quick, your 554 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 4: handles are great. But in order to do that, we 555 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: shot for half an hour from like four feeting in 556 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 4: and her arm got tired. I'm like, you clearly don't 557 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 4: shoot enough if your arms tired after doing this. But 558 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 4: it's like master all the little details. Hone in on 559 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 4: every little thing in here, and as we move out 560 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 4: then we don't have those out there. But I think 561 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 4: that goes back to the access to know things and 562 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 4: to see things. These kids have its immediate gratification for everything, 563 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 4: and so you can just go on YouTube and watch something, 564 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 4: you can go on Instagram and see what you want 565 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 4: to see, watch a reel, do a TikTok boom. Everything's 566 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 4: right there and you're getting validated right there. And so 567 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 4: they go spend ten minutes on something and they think, well, okay, 568 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 4: I did ten minutes, I'm good. I should be good. 569 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 4: And the understanding of that it takes so much longer, 570 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: you know, to master that skill. And I, like you said, 571 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 4: fifteen minutes is like fifty hour. Literally, when I run clinics, 572 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 4: I tell kids, let's do a math equation. If you 573 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 4: spend ten minutes a day, six days a week, give 574 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 4: yourself one day off ten minutes a day, six days 575 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 4: a week. So that's what like ten reels. However long 576 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 4: a reel is, right, like six times a week, you know, 577 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 4: six times ten is how much sixty? And then how 578 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 4: many weeks are in a year? Fifty two? Okay, well, 579 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 4: what's that equation come out to? And yeah, it's like 580 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 4: three thy two hundred something, or it's just sixty two hours. 581 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 4: What is fifty two weeks in a year? Fifty two hours? 582 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 4: And that's ten minutes a day. Yeah, right, And you 583 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 4: can't tell me you don't have ten minutes today, and 584 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 4: if you miss one day, do twenty the next. But 585 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 4: it'll all balance out. But it's just the willingness to 586 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 4: be consistent, the willingness to say this is my goal 587 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 4: and I have to, you know, slowly work to get there. 588 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 4: It's not an immediate gratification thing. So it's funny that 589 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 4: you said at the exams like, I mean, I. 590 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: Think, I think there's just some principles, there's life principles 591 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: in order to be successful, and you know, those are 592 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: the things I want to I want to teach my 593 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: kids too. And it's funny you said that about the video, 594 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: because just because you watched it, you're not accomplishing anything 595 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: unless you take it and go do what they were 596 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: doing in the video. You know. 597 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say so with Asy, we constantly kind 598 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 4: of just checked in with her, right we were you know, 599 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 4: do you still want to do this? Do you? 600 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: You know? 601 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 4: And it's hard when you're the hardest working player in 602 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 4: your group, right, And I wouldn't. I would tell her 603 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 4: call up such and such, see if she wants to 604 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 4: come to the gym with us, And sometimes we get 605 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 4: takers and other times we wouldn't, and I'd just say, well, 606 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 4: that's why you're you, and let's go. In about eighth grade, 607 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: she called somebody to go work out and they didn't 608 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 4: want to go, and I was like, well, and she 609 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 4: looked at me and said, I know, Mom, that's why 610 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 4: I'm me. Let's go, you know. And it just but 611 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: but at that point, you know, once again, I said 612 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 4: early on, like she got good enough for us to 613 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 4: not have to pay for college, okay, great, And so 614 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 4: you know seven eighth grade, when you know the days 615 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 4: were hard and she didn't want to work out, I 616 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 4: would flat out say, if if you don't want to 617 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 4: do this and you don't want to be great like 618 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 4: you you just want to like maintain status quo, you 619 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 4: could get a divisional scholarship right now, Like you can 620 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: just stay as good as you are, you don't have 621 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 4: to get any better, and you're gonna have free education 622 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: and that's winning. That's huge. But if you do want 623 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 4: to do those things and we have to continue to push, 624 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 4: but that it's your choice. And you know she'd always 625 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 4: just say let's go. But but yeah, it wasn't. It 626 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 4: wasn't like she wasn't skipp into the gym every day. 627 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: And I believe that. I mean I think about even myself. 628 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure you as well. Like there are days where 629 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 2: I was like, well, if we're going to win, I 630 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: we got to go. 631 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's just you right your bag and let's 632 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 4: do that. 633 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: Even now, like I run every morning, there's I don't 634 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: I don't know that there's a day that I'm like, yes, 635 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: I am I can't wait to go for my run. 636 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: It's just like I know if I do it, what 637 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: my day is going to look like. And if I 638 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: don't do it, I know what my day is going 639 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: to look like. 640 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, right, discipline doing you need to do? Know 641 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: what you want to do? 642 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: All right, listeners, you heard it here first. 643 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 3: It takes a little a lot of bit of discipline, dedication, sacrifice, 644 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: and just getting up and getting it done. And that 645 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: is something you can apply to all parts of your life, 646 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: not just if you're a basketball player. Ladies, thank you 647 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 3: so much, Jennifer Azy, thank you for joining us. Katie Fud, 648 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: thank you so much for having us. I think that 649 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: that's a wrap lady. 650 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, this was wonderful. 651 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: And Katie, I am gonna you're gonna get text for me. 652 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: Hey what do I do here when he's doing? 653 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, send your send your son to Katie. Katie 654 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: has already trained people at a gem I workout. Everybody loves. 655 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: Just send them all right, you guys, that is a rap. 656 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much Jennifer and Katie for joining us 657 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: on this week's pod. 658 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 4: Thanks for having us. 659 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: Listeners. 660 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 3: Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to futt Around 661 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: and find Out wherever you get your podcasts. Futt Around 662 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: and find Out is a production of iHeart Women's Sports 663 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: and Unanimous Media. Executive producers are Jesse Katz, Eric Payton, 664 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: Charla Sumter Brugette, and Stephen Curry. 665 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: Co executive producer is Kleanor Maria Cutney. 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