WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, August 20

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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday, August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and

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<v Speaker 1>now a guy who's imminent trade rumors were completely fabricated

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<v Speaker 1>for the amusement of others. J Pece shit Rick, and

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<v Speaker 1>boy was it hilarious. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, j P.

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<v Speaker 1>Shadrick with Jaguars analyst Jeff Lockman. Jeff, Good afternoon, Bud.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on all right? Good afternoon, j P. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a good day. The Jaguars got a good practice in

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, all seems to be well and football seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be going on. So far, so good, right, so far,

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<v Speaker 1>so good. Let's continue that trend and get to the

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<v Speaker 1>season and get through the season. That's a long way

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<v Speaker 1>down the road, so we got a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>time before we get that far. Here's what's coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on the show today. Well, you heard the intro there

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<v Speaker 1>about the rumors in go Quay. Was the topic of

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<v Speaker 1>those rumors yesterday. We'll hear from Dave Caldwell coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll quash those rumors. Important stretch of camp coming up

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<v Speaker 1>this week. This is really the heart of camp right now,

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what this team is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Defensive line, we've discussed some of the changes there over

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of weeks, and what's the head offensive

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<v Speaker 1>installation continues. It was a good day for the wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers and we'll go around the National Football League. Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Boselli joins US at four thirty yesterday, Michael Lombardi of

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<v Speaker 1>the Athletic tweeted to the trade of Unique and Gottway

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<v Speaker 1>was imminent and could come yesterday or today. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't happened, and today g M. Dave Caldwell visited was

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<v Speaker 1>serious XM radio after practice today and he shut down

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<v Speaker 1>those reports of an imminent trade of Unique and Gotway.

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<v Speaker 1>The unsubstantiated report really kind of caught me off guard. Two.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know where it came from or who

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<v Speaker 1>it came for him, but if he's being traded, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish somebody would let me know. Um. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we've had discussions with teams, but there's uh as

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<v Speaker 1>of one o'clock today, Uh there, that report was pretty erroneous,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess there's a couple of others that filed

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<v Speaker 1>up on that. So I don't know the person uh

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<v Speaker 1>that tweeted that, but obviously he didn't pay very close

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<v Speaker 1>touch in detail. Um, you know, obviously we're working with

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<v Speaker 1>the player and his agents, his new agents, and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to come to a good resolution for everybody. Well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Caldwell bringing a little bit of heat today on

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<v Speaker 1>Serious Exit Radio. Erroneus reports slugs. What's new. Well, I look,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everybody's gonna try to throw something and up

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall and see if it sticks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just because it is a topic, and it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a topic until one or two things happened, either and

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<v Speaker 1>Gay has traded or he reports to camp and he

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<v Speaker 1>plays for the Jaguars. But I think the interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>for me that I took away from what called Well

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<v Speaker 1>said is that we've talked to teams, or that we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking to teams. I mean, look, that's the reality. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that thinks that the Jaguars aren't talking to teams

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy, because they're gonna talk to everybody and anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that's willing to offer them something for in gock Way

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<v Speaker 1>because of the impact that they have with the player.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh so, I don't think it's anything news breaking.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's anything earth shattering. The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>about the that was erroneous about the report was that

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<v Speaker 1>something was imminent. I mean, it's looks something may happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It may not happen for another week, it may not

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<v Speaker 1>happen at all. We don't know. But still those things

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna exist until those one of two things happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He either is in camp with the Jaguars and signs

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<v Speaker 1>as franchise tender, or he has traded and that part

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<v Speaker 1>of him being in camp, you know, maybe the clouds

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<v Speaker 1>have lifted little nobody has been able to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Unique to to figure out his mindset. But he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a new agent, a new representative. Now, um, maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>clears the air and things can come back down to normal.

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<v Speaker 1>There's at least a chance of that happening with maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the new representation lies well. I think there's always a

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<v Speaker 1>chance of that when you change agents, because you can

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<v Speaker 1>lay a lot of blame on the previous agent for

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<v Speaker 1>not directing you in a proper way. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was the best thing that he could have possibly done

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<v Speaker 1>was to fire his previous agent. The way that that

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing was kind of came about with John's comments

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, John's comments on in a public form. All

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<v Speaker 1>of those things were not the way that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to conduct your business, even if you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else, because a lot of the things that John did,

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<v Speaker 1>actually I thought could have taken away from his value

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<v Speaker 1>and his tradability. So smartly was a smart guy. Smartly

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<v Speaker 1>to fire his agent. And now he's got new representation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the reputation of his new agent, but

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<v Speaker 1>anything has to be better than the previous one. And

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully at some point there can be some type of

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<v Speaker 1>resolution to this, whether he's here or whether he's somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>else in the Jaguars get some type of good trade

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<v Speaker 1>value for him. Well, as of today at four oh

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<v Speaker 1>five pm Eastern time, it's status quo and the Uniquan

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<v Speaker 1>got way front, even after all the news quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>air quotes of the last day or so. Now as

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to training campus heating up. You know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is an important stretch for this Jags team. Six consecutive

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<v Speaker 1>practices starting today, and head coach Doug Marone knows this

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<v Speaker 1>stretch is vital for his football team. We are getting

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<v Speaker 1>into a week where, uh you know, now we go

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<v Speaker 1>six straight days until um until the next day off.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, there's a lot of work ahead of us

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<v Speaker 1>this week, and it's a big week. You know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a week that we've got to get you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of situational work in. We've got to get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of high contact in um. You know. So it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit of a push this week as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you know, each and every day of getting better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>looks this is this is where the rubber hits the road,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will. And camp, they've had the ramp up

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<v Speaker 1>period and pads, but at some point you gotta start

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<v Speaker 1>putting in those situations. Today was really red zone heavy.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I were both out there watching that, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was a situation. Last year this team really struggled.

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<v Speaker 1>They finished thirty one in the league and red zone

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<v Speaker 1>efficiency and they made it an emphasis today. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that anybody that's claiming that this is the tough stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably going a little bit too far.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, training camp, if you compare this to training

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<v Speaker 1>camps of Vold. And I'm not trying to be one

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<v Speaker 1>of those old guys saying that, Hey, look way back

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<v Speaker 1>when when I played, it was so much harder. But

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<v Speaker 1>training camps, certainly especially with COVID and the effect that

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<v Speaker 1>that's had on training camp. This is a a much

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<v Speaker 1>more milder training camp, So to say that six days

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<v Speaker 1>in a row is demanding, I wouldn't quite say that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's gone that far now. The training camps certainly

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<v Speaker 1>are much more than what they are. The practice have

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<v Speaker 1>been certainly much more than what they've been over the

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<v Speaker 1>last two weeks, and that they've ramped it up there

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<v Speaker 1>and pads they're going a little bit longer, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they're on the field for ballpark, you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half hour and forty five minutes and

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<v Speaker 1>that's about it. And it's only one day on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think players should be able to stay fresh,

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<v Speaker 1>and players should be able to avoid any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>soft tissue muscle injury. I think a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>the pounding that you take from the old training camps

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<v Speaker 1>are not going to be there. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great set up. It's a great situation. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>that the training camps had been like this for a

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<v Speaker 1>longer period of time, And I think the players should

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that they have every chance to show what

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<v Speaker 1>their best is because they're not demanding a lot out

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys. As far as two day practices and

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<v Speaker 1>full pads and everything else. So I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable pace, but yet it's a pace that I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we'll get them ready for the regular season. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as today's practice, you know, yes, we were

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<v Speaker 1>both out there today. I thought that today's practice was

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<v Speaker 1>just okay. I think this team, but what you would expect, though,

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<v Speaker 1>JP and what we expect, this team has a long

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<v Speaker 1>way to go. This is a young football team that

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of unsettled positions and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>positions that have maybe even bigger question marks after the

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<v Speaker 1>past week of events. So this team needs the reps

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<v Speaker 1>and they need to take advantage of every rep that

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<v Speaker 1>they're allowed to have between the agreement between the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>and the nfl p A, Are you trying to say,

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<v Speaker 1>logs that you used to walk to training camp uphill

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<v Speaker 1>both ways and the snow? Is that what you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say? No, I used to walk to training camp

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<v Speaker 1>both ways uphill and like the Sahara Desert it was

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fifty degrees, didn't have shade, didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a water bottle. But I mean, come on, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these these practices that they're having now, I mean there

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got you've got eighty guys. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>you have eighty guys for a practice that is ballpark

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour and a half, and I mean hour

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<v Speaker 1>and a half now, and a lot of that hour

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<v Speaker 1>and a half is a lot of individual period, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stretching, it's a lot of kind of

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<v Speaker 1>walk through coaching type stuff. So, uh, this is I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say that this is a highly demanding training camp

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<v Speaker 1>or a highly demanding camp of any nature. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think it's just right though. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>of the opinion JP and and I've been saying this

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<v Speaker 1>for years that the training camps will bold. We're just archaic,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't do anything to get teams, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got them ready for a season, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it also it detracted away from the player's health

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<v Speaker 1>going into the season. I think that this is the

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<v Speaker 1>way to do it, I think all the time. And

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that they can adopt some of the rules

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<v Speaker 1>in changes going forward after this year, because I like

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<v Speaker 1>some of the rules that Day have instituted this year.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned a moment ago that this team does have

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<v Speaker 1>a long way to go, and I think I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you on that one. But there were some bright

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<v Speaker 1>spots of practice today, and for me, it was the

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver position. Now, there were a couple of defensive

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<v Speaker 1>backs out today. C. J. Henderson was under the weather

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<v Speaker 1>with an illness. He was out Ronnie Harrison's and the

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<v Speaker 1>concussion protocol now he was not available on the field today.

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<v Speaker 1>But that said, there was some spectacular play by this

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguars wide receiver corps today. Most notably and as you

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<v Speaker 1>would expect, d J. Chark. He made a few great

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<v Speaker 1>catches today, lives in traffic against the boundary, one on

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline, one handed, another in the back of the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone for a touchdown in red zone. And he

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<v Speaker 1>just showed you what he can do. But there were

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<v Speaker 1>other guys that really stepped up to today in that

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver corps. I thought that was a positive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that it was. It was a really good

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<v Speaker 1>performance by the wide receivers that I think doing large

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<v Speaker 1>part because the play of the quarterbacks wasn't great today.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought there were some balls that weren't very accurate

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<v Speaker 1>and the and the receiver has really had to go

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<v Speaker 1>and get it and make spectacular plays because the placement

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball wasn't particularly good. You mentioned d J Chark.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dj is continuing to look marvelous. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's having a tremendous training camp and it's about what

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<v Speaker 1>you would expect out of d J. Chark. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>one play that you're talking about where he was in

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone, he probably got away with a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a push off on that play, but nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>the officials aren't out there, it wasn't called. But Colin

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson I thought also had a really productive day. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about a drafted rookie that has a tremendous size.

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<v Speaker 1>He's what six ft six two plus pounds, and so

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about a wide receiver of that stature,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get to the red zone, you expect him

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<v Speaker 1>to excel, to be able to take advantage of the

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<v Speaker 1>size advantage that he presents and matchups, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he did just that today. And that's what the Jaguars,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're expecting when they drafted him. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he had a really strong day. China continues to have

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<v Speaker 1>think he will really shine when the pads come on

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<v Speaker 1>because he's so physical and he's one of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>after the catch. But yeah, I think overall, very productive

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<v Speaker 1>day for the wide receivers. But on the flip side

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<v Speaker 1>of that, JP very concerned about the tight end position though. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of changes there logs. Of course, effort's

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<v Speaker 1>out there, but Oliver has done for the year. He's

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<v Speaker 1>put on injured reserve. Today, O'Shaughnessy's coming off a knee injury.

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<v Speaker 1>He still has the brace running around out there, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not what it was. Just really only a few

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<v Speaker 1>days ago when they had, for the first time in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time their full compliment of tight ends. That's

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<v Speaker 1>no long under the case. Yeah, losing Josh Oliver to

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<v Speaker 1>I R. I mean, look, any time you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a broken foot or a broken bone in the foot,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the hardest things. I think an injury

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<v Speaker 1>of the foot is very difficult to overcome because how

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<v Speaker 1>do you how do you rest it? I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you get off your feet to allow things to heal?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you've got to work your way back slowly

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't, like put only ten percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>weight on the foot. I mean, like if you're rehabing

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<v Speaker 1>an arm. Okay, okay, we're gonna start out at ten percent. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when you step on your feet, you're carrying your full

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<v Speaker 1>body weight. So it's hard to recover from a foot injury.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a tremendous loss. And Tyler Eiffort is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who they got in free agency, and we all

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<v Speaker 1>know that he has a history of I'm not being

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<v Speaker 1>able to stay healthy, even though last year he was

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<v Speaker 1>able to stay healthy, but that's one of the few

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<v Speaker 1>years that he's been able to do that in recent memory.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now you look at the depth that the

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguars have at the tight end position. Okay, well, how

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<v Speaker 1>about James O'Shaughnessy. Well, he's coming back from an a

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<v Speaker 1>c L. And there were a couple of points in

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<v Speaker 1>practice today that I really saw James O'Shaughnessy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say limping, but he was favoring that leg

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<v Speaker 1>and not wanting to use it in a power position,

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<v Speaker 1>which is typical guys that are coming back from an

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<v Speaker 1>A c L. That takes time for them to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to being a dent and I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take him even more time. And there were some drills

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<v Speaker 1>that he just chose not to participate in or just said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I need a break here from the look of things.

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<v Speaker 1>And then once you get past him, now you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about just a couple of guys that are are young.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Jones is the second year tight end that they

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<v Speaker 1>like his blocking ability, and then you're talking about two rookies,

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<v Speaker 1>one from Georgia Tech, a draft pick, and another rookie

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<v Speaker 1>that this seems to be a little bit more athletic out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Central Florida. So I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a young group and it's a group that has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of questions. And then even with just one injury,

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you gotta have guys that are willing

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<v Speaker 1>great job of setting a tone for this team. And

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<v Speaker 1>and these guys have come in and uh, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>and Jacksonville at Jaguars on Social and Jaguars dot Com. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know logs. This it's an interesting dynamic here. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this before, but it's worth noting again

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<v Speaker 1>it's a new offense. They haven't been on the field

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<v Speaker 1>at all in the off season, and they've come to

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<v Speaker 1>camp with a ramp up period. They truly have eleven

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<v Speaker 1>full padded practices lengthwise, right, they've had fourteen on the schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a ramp up and I think the ramp

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<v Speaker 1>up ended today. They start the full time tomorrow, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's all they have to really install this offense. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's has to be a limit to what you get in.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the most important things in first, right, That's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of that's how you have to approach this thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the meat and potatoes and JP. I mean when you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Jay Gruden talking about them being in diapers,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're still in diapers. Were still learning about

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<v Speaker 1>this football team. And you know, here's my little little

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<v Speaker 1>depth chart that I put together every year, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so in diapers that I talked about Ben Ellison and

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<v Speaker 1>had the tight end one of the rookies is being

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<v Speaker 1>from Central Florida. I cannot, I cannot go let that slide.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a North Dakota State guy. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>North Dakota State guys out there that would take great

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<v Speaker 1>offense if I didn't get that right. But so we're

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<v Speaker 1>learning the football team, the players are learning the offensive system.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all part of the ramp up period. But the

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<v Speaker 1>amazing thing is is that if the if this were

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<v Speaker 1>a normal year, we would have been past the first

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<v Speaker 1>preseason game already, and it's just kind of odd that

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't seen anything even close to that or a

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<v Speaker 1>scrimmage so far in training camp. Well, the offensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Gruden will have to lean on a second year

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback in Gardner Minshew, who they're trying to develop all

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time into a guy that can be

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<v Speaker 1>a franchise type guy. That's the plan at least. Well

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<v Speaker 1>Gardner Minshew today met with Sirius XM Radio, and not

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<v Speaker 1>only is Gruden here, but Ben McAdoo is here now

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<v Speaker 1>as well, the former head coach of the New York Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the quarterbacks coach now for the Jacksonville Jaguars. He's

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<v Speaker 1>working with Minshew every day. And of course Gardner also

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<v Speaker 1>spent some time down in Naples this offseason. Coach mcadoer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been awesome. Man. He's he's been out of the

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<v Speaker 1>game for a little bit, so he's so excited to

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<v Speaker 1>get back. And I was so excited to work for

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<v Speaker 1>him and learn from him. Um. You know, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>around some great guys and I love just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of picking his brain. He's he's gonna help help

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot, you know, whether it's footboard decision making,

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<v Speaker 1>ball security, all that. He brings a lot of great

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<v Speaker 1>experience to our room. Uh. And then with coach Ombrello

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<v Speaker 1>down in Naples, UM and something, I go doing the

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<v Speaker 1>off season with Michael Walker, one of our receivers here. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>we go down and train with him. First off, getting

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<v Speaker 1>faster with him. I think he's one of the great,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, better speed guys I've ever worked with. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And then doing it whatever I can to give my

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<v Speaker 1>arm as strong as possible. Um. You know, I realized

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never probably gonna have a plus arm in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's things that can do to get better, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have this offseason, gardnerments you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Garden are doing the right things in the offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>going down to his side coach down there to get

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<v Speaker 1>some things right, you know. And it's interesting that the

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<v Speaker 1>in there he talked about, you know, he may not

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<v Speaker 1>have a plus arm in this league, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>things he can do. What can he do to improve

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<v Speaker 1>that arm strength? Well, I think I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things he can do. And I think when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to Gardener, because he doesn't have that quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote plus arm or great arm, the anticipation has to

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<v Speaker 1>be there. The thorough understanding of the offense has to

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<v Speaker 1>be there, and a great understanding of defense so that

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<v Speaker 1>that allows you to have that anticipation. You know. Chad

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<v Speaker 1>Pennington had a very successful career in the National Football

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<v Speaker 1>League for quite some time, and he might have had

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<v Speaker 1>the worst arm in the NFL in half a century.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not joking now, I mean his arm. We used

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<v Speaker 1>to call him the lollipop guy because literally when he

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<v Speaker 1>would throw the ball had so much arc on. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like traveling around the circle of a lollipop. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he was that weak. So if he can have success

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<v Speaker 1>in this league, then Gardner Minshew can have success because

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<v Speaker 1>his arm isn't like that. It's better than that. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's definitely some things that he's gonna have to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to be good at. You know, his height gives

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<v Speaker 1>him a little bit of a disadvantage, so he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to function in the pocket, find

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<v Speaker 1>open windows, to find the vision, to anticipate routes, to

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<v Speaker 1>anticipate changes in defense. You know, Tom Brady is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the goat, and he's the greatest of all time, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that makes him great is his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>When Tom Brady gets to the line of scrimmage and

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a progression of let's say five guys JP,

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<v Speaker 1>when by the time he gets the snap, he has

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<v Speaker 1>already gone through his first and second progression when the

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<v Speaker 1>all hits his hand under center, and then he's already

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<v Speaker 1>working to number three, four and five one once he's

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<v Speaker 1>got the ball in his hands, and that allows him

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<v Speaker 1>to have great decision making. So Gardner Minshew needs to

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to have the mental aspect of the

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<v Speaker 1>game down to allow maybe some shortcomings that he has

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<v Speaker 1>physically but allowed to cover up for them, and to

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<v Speaker 1>allow this offense to function at the best of its ability.

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<v Speaker 1>Like today, for example, JP, we watched them today. He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't extremely sharp today. Some of the placements, the ball

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 1>placements of the balls. If you don't have a great arm,

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<v Speaker 1>okay that you can wing it in there, then you

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<v Speaker 1>need to be able to put it in the position

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<v Speaker 1>so that your offensive receiver can catch the ball and

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<v Speaker 1>then get his body turned heading north and south as

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 1>quickly as possible, something that he could have done a

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 1>better job of today. Also the accuracy thing. So all

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<v Speaker 1>of those things are things that he's going to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to work on. And it's very early in training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not down on him whatsoever. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>that he's just like a lot of the other players

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<v Speaker 1>on this roster. He's young and he's got things to

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<v Speaker 1>more of a NFL player, you know, last year I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of felt like I was kind of in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of you know, thoughts and mindset. Thank you too much,

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, not thinking too much about certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>And and now is I'm seeing information and I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 1>what play we in and why they call that play,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I get to react on that. So just

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<v Speaker 1>starting to learn the game a lot more. Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 1>today on sirius x M NFL Radio or thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>those guys for the audio, and welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lockman. Tony Basselli joins us from

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<v Speaker 1>another undisclosed location. You are on a streak of undisclosed locations, Tony,

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<v Speaker 1>where is this one? It's none of your business, JP. No,

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually I'm at I'm at home right now, so

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting at the house. Oh well, it's nice to Uh,

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's not as exciting as the closed site

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that I was at last week All White roof last time. Yeahs,

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<v Speaker 1>last Monday, we had Tony in an undisclosed location. Is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those c I a things where you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see anything on the walls, and but all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>here comes the waitress in to bring him a cup

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>of coffee in the middle of the show. What in

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>the world. It was a nice It was a nice

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>on this low site, the nicest I've ever heard of.

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<v Speaker 1>We just heard from Josh Allen there, of course, and

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>you gotta love his mindset. Um, Los, you and I

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 1>were at practice today just talking about how he looks.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, he looks a little different than last year,

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>just to the eye. But here in him, Tony, you know,

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>this guy's locked a yeah, a lot, right, Um, Tony,

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>this guy is locked in, and he's a guy you

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>can really build around on the defensive side. Well, I

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>think as you look at this defense, in this whole team,

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>actually you kind of want to ask yourself, where are

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the playmakers? Where are the difference makers who can take

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 1>over a game? And I think Josh Allen is one

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>of those. I mean, watching the game tape work, I

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<v Speaker 1>should say, the practice, they kind of going through some

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff that they've been doing some one ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching some team drills and everything else. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he does look different, Um, he actually looks much more

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<v Speaker 1>polished already early Jeff in his pass rush moves and

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing some one arm presses, using his hands,

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<v Speaker 1>getting on the edge. Uh, and even watching him in

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<v Speaker 1>the uh run drills, the team run drills that they're having. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a powerful guy. I mean, I think he has

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<v Speaker 1>all the components to be a great player. I mean, like,

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>not just a guy who can rest the pastor and

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>get double dugit sacks, which he's already proven, but literally

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys that you don't want off the field,

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that's every down player, UM, that can change the game. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And Uh, I think we thought that we had that

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>last year when we drafted him, and then after his

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>rookie year where he really only played about four five

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>of the staffs maybe fifty and put up the numbers

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>he did. Um, I'm looking for a big year out

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>of Josh Allen. Yeah, he's uh an absolute stud. And

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<v Speaker 1>had a conversation with him today and was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>some of his pass rush moves because I thought last year,

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, he got double digit sacks, but he got

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<v Speaker 1>most of them just by being an athlete. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's very apparent that he's learning how to

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<v Speaker 1>be a pass rusher and he's refined his body. For example,

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>last year he probably weighed close to to seventy This

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>year he's down around two d fifty pounds. He looks great,

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>he said, he feels great, he feels fast, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you he looks fast and he looks great.

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<v Speaker 1>And then tonight, JP just a little plug here on

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguars All Access, our first TV show of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>going to the film room and actually going to be

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<v Speaker 1>breaking down some of these pass rush moves that Josh

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Allen has discovered, and we'll look back on some of

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the one on one pass rushes that he had from

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<v Speaker 1>Monday and Tuesday this week and shows some of the

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>folks how his moves have become a little top level.

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>And Tony, you remember probably growing up watching the great

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Ricky Jackson, who was he's a Hall of Famer, played

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>for the New Orleans Saints. He was a left side

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>out left outside pass rusher. Pat Swilling was on the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite side, and Ricky had this power inside arm move

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and he could just take a plus pound offensive tackle

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>back into the lap of the quarterback. Josh has found

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that he did that the Juwan Taylor on Tuesday. What

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was tremendous. I mean, what a great rush.

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>So looking forward tonight's first Jaguars all access and then

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<v Speaker 1>also looking forward to watching a great player this year

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 1>and Josh Allen. Now the question around him, there's many

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>of them and and that's that's a cause for a

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of concern. JP. Let me pick up on that

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 1>real quick. What Box you said is is because if

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to be a great pass rusher and put

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>up the big numbers that we're talking about, Jeff, you

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 1>have to get second along a third and long and

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I think the unknown where the question it's gonna be

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see is Candice team stopped to run. Can

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>they create those long down down and distances situations? And

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that allowed Josh Allen to highlight who he is. Yeah,

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the all the changes in the interior this defensive line

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of weeks. You know there's still the

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>frontline guys there, Avery, Taven, Brian, those kind of names

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna see. But you know they like to

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 1>to rotate those guys in and you know that at

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:24.879
<v Speaker 1>least so far, it's just a little, not a little,

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot unknown right now. Who those guys are

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna be in the next couple of weeks. Well, let

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>me let me kind of circle back on your comment there,

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and you said, hey, the front line guys are still there,

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and Avery Jones and Tavin Bryan, I would argue that

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>they weren't going to be the front line guys. I

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>think we have a nose tackle that opted out that

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>probably was gonna be your best nose tackle. You had

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Rodney Gunner, who because of a heart condition has had

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>to walk away from the game, and they gave an

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>eighteen million dollar contract to That tells me that he

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.399
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be your guy. And I think his level

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>of perform it's what the Cardinals last year was better

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>than that of what Tavin Bryan was able to produce

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>for the Jaguar. So, you know, when you're talking about

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 1>taking away frontline guys, and I understand that. Look, you know,

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 1>you've got some depth with Tavin and you've got some

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>depth with Avery. But look, I mean last year with

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>those guys, you had an issue stopping the run, you know.

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's why they went out and they looked and

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>tried to find a couple of guys to fortify that

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 1>defensive front. So it definitely hurts this football team by

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 1>losing a couple of guys of that stature of case.

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>So now the question is what do you have that's next?

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 1>What do you have that's available step up? Looking I

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>like the acquisition of Timmy Journegan. I think he's a

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>good football player, but it would have been nice to

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 1>have him on top of, you know, some other guys

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that you were able to acquire. And I think when

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.280
<v Speaker 1>you start to look at depth at the other defensive

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.320
<v Speaker 1>end position, I think Smoot is a good football player.

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>He's been depth in the past. Now he's expected to

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>be that guy. Well, what do you have next? Is

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 1>God's disabled to step up? You know? I mean right now,

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 1>from what I'm seeing out of Gods, this is he

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>s he's a guy or I see a guy that

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that looks like he's kind of carrying a bad knee.

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of questions with this defensive front,

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's going to continue on until we

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>get to the regular season where we can actually see

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>some answers. Yeah, it's it's going to continue. Certainly. The

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>next week will be key to see who emerges from

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.760
<v Speaker 1>that group. You know, today we're staying on the defensive

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 1>line here. Caleb and Chase on had his first day

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>on the field. He was off to the side at

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the start of camp with the hamstring ailment, but he

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>started to work his way back in today. Uh quickly lives.

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 1>What did you see at a Caleb on today first

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:48.800
<v Speaker 1>day out? Well, first and foremost the eye test. I

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>was looking at him. I was going, wow, look how

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>big his legs are. I mean, he literally his legs

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>look big. And I remember watching his tape at l

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 1>s U. I didn't see that big of a guy.

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if he may be gained a

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>little bit of weight or something, but he's a little

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>bit more heavy, heavy at the bottom end, but he's sudden,

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>he looks powerful. I think he's gonna give them some

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>great depth to go with Josh on base downs, and

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 1>then also going to give them a really nice outside

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>rusher opposite of Josh, obviously, unless the Angoquay situation is

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.359
<v Speaker 1>able to be rectified. So I like him. I liked

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:28.320
<v Speaker 1>this college tape. I think it's a great acquisition. But

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's a young guy that needs these reps

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's missed some time already and he needs to

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>make up for some lost time. Yeah, and Jeffy, if

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you if you watched him at L s U as

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I know you did and I did, is while he

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:44.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't look as big as he looked on the field

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:46.919
<v Speaker 1>of day, I just saw the videos and I watched

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the practice dape later tonight. Is he was a powerful

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 1>individual if you watched him play and how the physicality

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>played with an L s U running around over the

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>plates and he was actually pretty good at stack at

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 1>the end of the line of scream inch and I

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 1>think what he gives you. And if you look at

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 1>the body type of Josh Allen, we talked about him

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and not taking an shots and goquay because in Gockway

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 1>is a great pass rusher. I mean we all know that. Um.

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>The question is he's also a smaller individual, especially on

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:15.959
<v Speaker 1>the lower half, and he has to kind of play

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>make you miss in the run game to be effective.

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Which guys will be able to do that. If you

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:24.839
<v Speaker 1>look at chayse On, he's another guy that you feel

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 1>real comfortable lining up and be either on the open

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>end and be able to stack that tackle, play physical

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>through the tackle's neck and definitely against the tight end.

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he is a powerful human being that is

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 1>stick some thickness to him. Um, that's gonna be able

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 1>to play the run game effectively as well. Alright, guys,

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 1>let's stay in the trenches here and for a few minutes. Tony,

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>you're with us obviously, so let's talk offensive line here,

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>tug moron, thank you. And in case you're joining us

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 1>for the first time, Tony was Ellie is a noted

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 1>left tackle in league history. Just ask, he'll tell you.

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>So I've done marone today. I talked about the offensive

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>life and how and you know he doesn't want to

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>heat praise yet, but he kind of did today again

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 1>on this group as a whole, talking about how they've

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:24.439
<v Speaker 1>improved their strength, their athleticism. Technically, they're a little better

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.280
<v Speaker 1>at least in the early parts of camp. Here, Tony,

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I know you've watched some of the tape so far.

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I know it's you know, pajamas a lot of the time,

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and pad's only a few parts here. But they're confident

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 1>in this group up front. Um, yeah, I heard the comment.

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>He says they looked better than they did at the

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 1>end of last year. Um, and now he's watching the

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:49.320
<v Speaker 1>tape closer than I am, and he's seen him throughout

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:52.760
<v Speaker 1>the entire time of the tape. I've seen. It didn't

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>stand out to me like I didn't turn on the

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 1>tape and in eleven on eleven drills and see like

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 1>in the run game within just dominating. UM. Do I

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 1>see some good stuff some bad stuff? Yeah, But I

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>think that's consistent what we saw seen in the past,

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Jeff during training camp, especially early, so I think it's

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>way too early. I mean, I listen, I love that

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>you have a head coach who's pumping his guys up

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and is trying to get the most out of him

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and being positive. There's no reason not to be this

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 1>time of year. But for me, man, the proof is

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna be in the pudding. I want to see. You know,

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be really UM an unproven commodity across the

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>board for this team until you get to opening day

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 1>because with no preseason and no live action UM to

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>speak of. Uh, it's gonna be interesting to me. And listen,

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten it wrong in the past, Jeff and I

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>got it wrong in seventeen where we thought this was

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>an offensive line that was gonna struggle and they ended

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.399
<v Speaker 1>up leading the league and rushing um and I thought

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 1>they'd be better than they were last year, and they

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:55.880
<v Speaker 1>struggled quite a bit. So it'll be really interesting to

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 1>watch and see. Um, you know, it's pretty much not

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.919
<v Speaker 1>pretty much. It is the same group that we saw

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 1>all of last year. And so what you're hoping is

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that what Doug is saying is accurate that they've gotten stronger.

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how you get more athletic if you

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>get older, um, but maybe you get stronger. But the technique,

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>especially for some of the guys, and I'll speak directly

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.879
<v Speaker 1>to Cam Robinson, um with his footwork, I did watch

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 1>him in one on one. It does look like he's

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 1>worked on it and there is some improvement. Uh, And

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:29.839
<v Speaker 1>so I'm hopeful, but we'll have to wait and see. Yeah,

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that's one of those where you gotta go see it

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 1>under the lights to to really check it out against

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 1>another opponent. Well, let me add this first off. This

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>team needs the offensive line to take a step up.

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, because you're talking about a defense that's going

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.800
<v Speaker 1>through a lot of changes, you're talking about a young quarterback.

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's probably the most important position group for

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 1>this football team this year. I think. You know. The

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 1>interesting thing too, is that I don't know if you

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 1>guys saw on the video stuff that we're watching these

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 1>guys and a lot of people are probably wondering and

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 1>looking at the video and what is that the players

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that most of the the offensive linemen are wearing. It.

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 1>It's like a padded exterior to the helmet that they wear.

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:14.280
<v Speaker 1>And if you go back to the uh great Buffalo

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Bills teams when they went to four Super Bowls and

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 1>they weren't able to win one of them, they had

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>a safety slash special teamer by the name of Mark Kelso.

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 1>There was also a couple other players in the league.

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 1>There was a lineman for the San Francisco forty Niners

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:30.320
<v Speaker 1>that were it was it's like a pad on the

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 1>exterior of the helmet and the offensive lineman, a lot

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 1>of them are wearing this in practice, and I guess

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:39.320
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to cut down on concussions or the the

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>pounding that these guys take. But it's kind of interesting

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>watching the video footage and you see these guys and

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:48.840
<v Speaker 1>for all you Flintstone fans out there, they look like Kazoo,

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, the pig that makes their heads look like

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 1>they're giant, you know, kind of out of proportion there

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Well, I we'll say it is part

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:02.240
<v Speaker 1>of a league case study there working on two different

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 1>types of these outer padded shell things for helmets to

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 1>for the for the low impact contact. So it's it's

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 1>a continuation of a study that's been going on off

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:14.959
<v Speaker 1>the field. Now they're bringing it onto the practice field.

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>At least it will not be used in games this year. Um,

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>But the way I understand it, they're just trying it

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 1>out a couple of different models here, and I don't

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 1>think this is the only team doing it. There are

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>some other teams trying them out as well. So a

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 1>good time to to try that out is always would

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 1>you would you wear one? Jeff Me? Uh? When I

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 1>was in my early twenties, no, But when I wear

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 1>one now, yeah, yeah I don't think I would. I mean,

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you know me, I had the small pads. I like

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 1>to wear as little as possible on the football field,

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:51.719
<v Speaker 1>but enough as it was already yeah my head, I

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.880
<v Speaker 1>had a huge helmet pick skull. Um, I think I

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:58.800
<v Speaker 1>would have been Okay, they would need a custom size

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>for Tony. Let's come back we'll touch on some penalty talk.

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.959
<v Speaker 1>Doug Moron asked about that earlier today. We'll go around

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:10.240
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<v Speaker 1>the officials aren't doing really that that type of training

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 1>or on the field, so I keep telling the players,

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:46.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm really concerned about that, uh that, and I want

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>to make sure And now, because of the tears on

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.400
<v Speaker 1>what we can have here. We used to always have

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the officials at practice, you know, where we can keep

0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:57.240
<v Speaker 1>an eye on that. Well, we don't have them because

0:48:57.640 --> 0:48:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, we can't afford to bring in Tier one people.

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, they just they're gonna do practice. So, um,

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 1>we have coaches have been on it, you know, quite

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a bit. Head coach Doug Marone earlier today before practice

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 1>asking about penalties and the approach this season in training camp.

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Wellcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman,

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:24.879
<v Speaker 1>Tony Baselli, and that we all know that this team

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 1>was penalized a good bit last year, certainly on the

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:31.240
<v Speaker 1>offensive line. So you know, he made the point today

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Tony that sometimes good teams get penalized a lot. I

0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 1>can go to the Super Bowl and but they are

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 1>good enough in different areas to overcome penalties. If you

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 1>have to really work to overcome the penalties and then

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:47.439
<v Speaker 1>you can't, that's when it can pile up on top

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:49.719
<v Speaker 1>of you. Not that you want the penalties to begin with.

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 1>They get that, the technique and everything has to be right,

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 1>so you avoid some of those. But that's a big difference,

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 1>especially for a young Jaguars football team. Like this one.

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be forge to overcome a lot of those penalties. Yeah,

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 1>there's not always a direct core correlation between penalties and

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the teams that make the playoffs from missed the playoffs,

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:10.560
<v Speaker 1>that's for sure. I think that's what you're alluding to, JP,

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and you're right. Um, However, I don't think this team

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:17.480
<v Speaker 1>is explosive enough on the offense to overcome Uh. It's

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 1>more difficult for them to overcome long down and distance

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 1>or the thing if they get behind the chains. Um,

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 1>they need things to be They need to be working

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 1>downhill meaning positive down a distance, which penalties really take

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:33.799
<v Speaker 1>you out of. UM. And defensively, listen, you know, giving

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 1>up easy artage when it's a team that hasn't made

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 1>a ton of changes defensively if you really look at

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean they added Joe Showber to that front seven.

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Other than that is it in Chason it's a lot

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:50.200
<v Speaker 1>of the same people, um, and actually losing Calais and

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Marcel Darius who was there for the first half. And

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:55.839
<v Speaker 1>this is a defensive struggle to stop to run last

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:58.440
<v Speaker 1>year and they gave up chunkyardage and they gave up

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a big play. So so what I'm saying their margin

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.879
<v Speaker 1>for air is really a lot smaller than other team

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and so you can't impact that and help other teams

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 1>out and be a highly penalized team. I think penalties

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:16.040
<v Speaker 1>are are first of all, you've got to kind of

0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:18.600
<v Speaker 1>break them into two different categories to sit there and say, okay,

0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 1>well we got to eliminate this these types, and we

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 1>gotta make sure that we are aware of these other types.

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:28.560
<v Speaker 1>The mental penalties you gotta eliminate, whether that be false starts,

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:31.759
<v Speaker 1>delay of games, things that you can control with just

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.919
<v Speaker 1>your mind. The physical penalties, Hey, look, if you grab

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.279
<v Speaker 1>a guy's face mask when you're flying a hundred miles

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:39.319
<v Speaker 1>an hour and trying to make a tackle in your

0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:42.759
<v Speaker 1>hand gets his face mask by accident, that happens, you know.

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:45.239
<v Speaker 1>So I think as a as a coach, I'm sure

0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 1>that Doug wants to eliminate all those ones that you

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 1>call the mental penalties and the aggressive penalties. Look, you

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 1>just try to have a little bit more awareness and

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:56.320
<v Speaker 1>try to prevent them, but definitely as an offense, and

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:58.560
<v Speaker 1>those are the mental penalty. I think you talked a

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 1>lot about now defense, it's mental penalty. A perfect example

0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:04.560
<v Speaker 1>that might be lining up in the neutral zone if

0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 1>you're a defensive lineman or if you're a cornerback, but offensively,

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:09.839
<v Speaker 1>you've got to make sure that you don't have any

0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:11.560
<v Speaker 1>of those mental bus because that, to me, that's what

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 1>they are. They're mental bus Y're not just penalties. Are mental?

0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Where would you categorize like late hits, personal fouls, that

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 1>type of thing that's totally unaware. Yeah, yeah, I mean

0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:32.000
<v Speaker 1>that's there's no excuse for that. I mean that that's

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:35.400
<v Speaker 1>a mental penalty, but it goes beyond it. You know,

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 1>there was a great running back who played for the

0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Seattle Seahawks. It used to say, hey, look, you got

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to take care of your mentals. Well you could apply

0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 1>that to penalties when it comes to football, because you

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 1>gotta take care of all. Right, we'll see if the

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:53.479
<v Speaker 1>Jaguars can get that going. We'll hear from Doug Moron

0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 1>coming up in just a few minutes on the Doug

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Moron Show as well. Let's go around the National Football League, gentlemen,

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and start off with of the mandate coming down this

0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 1>week that there will be no sideline reporters or pregame

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.800
<v Speaker 1>TV reporters allowed on the field in not only that

0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:12.359
<v Speaker 1>no cheerleaders, no mascots allowed on the field either. They'll

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:14.759
<v Speaker 1>likely be in a different area of the stadium, first

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:17.759
<v Speaker 1>few rows of the stands most likely. And Tony, that's

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a big change, certainly for you. I mean, you're on

0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the sidelines on Thursday night. How's that going to change

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 1>your role? Actually, I'm not on the sidelines Thursday night.

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:27.399
<v Speaker 1>I've been in the booth from about the last four years.

0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:29.439
<v Speaker 1>But thank you, I'm on the sideline for the Super Bowl,

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 1>so that'll be interesting to see what they do there. Um,

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 1>so it's not gonna change my role at all. It

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:39.480
<v Speaker 1>will change Logs and Eyes prep though, because we usually

0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>prep and do a lot of work pre game on

0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:46.959
<v Speaker 1>the field, talking to players and coaches, seeing the injuries. Um, guys,

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 1>who are game time decisions. I know Thursday nights, especially

0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>when I don't I don't spend as much time with

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the teams. I go down on the field before the game,

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:56.839
<v Speaker 1>interact with guys. That's not gonna happen anymore. I mean

0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Logs and I to figure out the heck we do

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:00.400
<v Speaker 1>for an hour and a half that you used to

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:01.919
<v Speaker 1>spend on the field, because I don't think they're gonna

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:08.520
<v Speaker 1>let us out there anymore. Yeah, that's a no surprise there.

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you want to go ahead and protect

0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:13.640
<v Speaker 1>your players, you've got to absolutely limit any kind of

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 1>access to them in any way fashion that you can't.

0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 1>And so it just makes sense. Uh, there's a lot

0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of other limitations that are are going on and then

0:54:23.960 --> 0:54:26.440
<v Speaker 1>have already gone on, Like, for example, like right now

0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:30.719
<v Speaker 1>says that broadcasters I could have a conversation with a

0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen like today, but I mean we were doing

0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:36.120
<v Speaker 1>it from you know, ten plus feet apart, you know,

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'll just say, hey, make sure you stay there

0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:40.759
<v Speaker 1>and I stay here. But you don't want to end

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:44.400
<v Speaker 1>up getting any kind of space violations. And and I

0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:46.719
<v Speaker 1>think the league and the teams are very aware that

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 1>any kind of possibility of having a player get COVID

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>nineteen from some other chance exposure, they're gonna try to

0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:01.800
<v Speaker 1>eliminate as many of those possibilities as they can, and

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:05.200
<v Speaker 1>as they should. The league and the players Association, I

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 1>think has done a great job of coming together and

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 1>putting plans together and trying to make a map or

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 1>or or some type of system to follow. And I

0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:16.440
<v Speaker 1>think each team has done a pretty good job of

0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 1>executing it, because you have to try to keep the

0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 1>players safe and if the games are gonna be played

0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 1>without an interruption, as we've seen baseball, there's been a

0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:28.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of interruption. You've got to make sure that you

0:55:28.880 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 1>do everything within your power to make sure that there

0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:36.839
<v Speaker 1>is no blow up with COVID nineteen in the league. Jeff,

0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:43.640
<v Speaker 1>what are we gonna do? Well, I can tell you this.

0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna be hanging around a bunch of other

0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 1>people in the press box and eat press box food

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:53.040
<v Speaker 1>for me. Uh, It's it's true. You know, I'm gonna

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:54.759
<v Speaker 1>try to stay six ft away from you. But I

0:55:54.800 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 1>guess you know what, since you've already had it, maybe, Yeah. Interesting,

0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:05.919
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sorry for the demotion there, Tony. I didn't

0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the reassignment. Let's say Brown's cornerback Kevin Johnson had another

0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:15.920
<v Speaker 1>player land on top of him at practice yesterday. No

0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:18.319
<v Speaker 1>big deal, right, Well, he went to the he had

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 1>an abdomen injury. Yeah, it is a big deal because

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:24.120
<v Speaker 1>they sent him to the hospital as a precaution, where

0:56:24.200 --> 0:56:28.680
<v Speaker 1>tests revealed that he had a laceration to his liver. Tony,

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:31.759
<v Speaker 1>what in the world that is a crazy one? Oh,

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:35.240
<v Speaker 1>that's a scary one because you start getting internal bleeding.

0:56:35.440 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a number of years ago. It

0:56:37.840 --> 0:56:42.560
<v Speaker 1>was Chris Sims who actually lacerated his spleen and they

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:44.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't catch her right away and he, you know, could

0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 1>have died. Um, you said that. I remember on the

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Lebotard show, Tony you said, you said to Chris Simms,

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:54.200
<v Speaker 1>that was one of the coolest things he did play

0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:57.080
<v Speaker 1>in football. Actually, to get the quote right, I said,

0:56:57.120 --> 0:56:58.400
<v Speaker 1>it's the only cool thing he ever did on a

0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:03.200
<v Speaker 1>football field. Um, yeah, it's not very nice, but maybe true.

0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, that's Uh, it's one of those things. It's

0:57:06.520 --> 0:57:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a freak, a freak accident or freak injury that you

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:11.479
<v Speaker 1>just can't plan for and you don't see it very often.

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:16.080
<v Speaker 1>And kudos to the medical staff and the leaders in

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 1>there on the medical of the medical organization to take

0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:21.360
<v Speaker 1>the crushing to go the extra step make sure the

0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:24.320
<v Speaker 1>young man I'm safe, because if that's something you miss,

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:26.919
<v Speaker 1>goes to bed at night, goes back to his room.

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:29.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, you worry man what happens in the morning.

0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And so, uh, you know, thank god they caught it

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully will be Okay, let's move along. Now, Tyreek

0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Hill left practice early today for the Kansas City Chiefs

0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:46.240
<v Speaker 1>after catching a long pass from our good friend Chad Heading.

0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:48.640
<v Speaker 1>He walked to the sideline and talk to the training

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 1>staff and then walked under his own power inside did

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:55.120
<v Speaker 1>not return. Um. He's under his own power, though, Logs.

0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:59.000
<v Speaker 1>That's the good sign for Kansas City. Yeah, he is.

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:02.760
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, he's the most dynamic playmaker that there

0:58:02.920 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 1>is in the league. And uh and obviously he's a

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:09.440
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl champ. So anything that happens to a Super

0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Bowl champion player that is of that magnitude is it

0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 1>makes big news, you know, and it's it's amazing to

0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:18.040
<v Speaker 1>me because you know, when I when I saw that

0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:22.800
<v Speaker 1>about Tyree Kill, it reminded me about the story about

0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Ramsey criticizing him a little bit because he said

0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:29.720
<v Speaker 1>he was just a kick returner. Oh. I don't know

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:31.680
<v Speaker 1>about that, Jalen. I think he's a little bit more

0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:36.960
<v Speaker 1>than a kick returner. I would agree if the quote

0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:40.040
<v Speaker 1>was yeah, yeah, there's no doubt about that. He was

0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:44.240
<v Speaker 1>a pro bowler as a kick returner. That's what he said. Um. Finally,

0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the final thought here, Alex Smith practicing with the Washington

0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:51.280
<v Speaker 1>football team competing for the gig? How real can this be?

0:58:51.440 --> 0:58:54.959
<v Speaker 1>Tony Well, I mean, listen, I give the guy credit.

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 1>We talked about it Monday night. I mean I watched

0:58:56.880 --> 0:58:58.640
<v Speaker 1>him and just saw some tape of it. It still

0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:01.160
<v Speaker 1>looks like he has a little bit of a draw foot. Um.

0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:03.640
<v Speaker 1>We saw Janalen Smith, the Cowboys linebacker coming to the

0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:05.640
<v Speaker 1>league and actually have that drop foot and played the

0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:07.440
<v Speaker 1>first year or so before it all came all the

0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:10.400
<v Speaker 1>way back, So there's bracing that you can use, um

0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:12.520
<v Speaker 1>to handle that. I mean, that was just me visually

0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:14.240
<v Speaker 1>what looking at it. It was what it looked like.

0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:17.400
<v Speaker 1>But it's a it's a tremendous story. He almost lost

0:59:17.480 --> 0:59:19.400
<v Speaker 1>his leg. Um. I'd give him all the credit in

0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the world. A boy, I'd still be careful because he's

0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:25.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to protect yourself out there. Tony, we'll

0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:28.200
<v Speaker 1>talk to you again next week. Logs stick around The

0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Doug Morone Show is coming up. Thank you for listening

0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and watching. This has been Jaguars Happy Hour on the

0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Jaguars Digital Network. M