WEBVTT - Luke Sent Muffins (S4 E3 "The Hobbit, the Sofa, and Digger Stiles”) 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:17.279 I am all in. Oh, that's just you. I am 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:21.520 all in with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Everybody, 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.959 Scott Patterson, I'm all on podcast. I'm joining with my 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:28.640 intrepid team. Daniel Romo terror Suit. Amy Sugarman has arrived, 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:33.040 and we may all begin. We may all begin, And Amy, 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:35.240 I see you are in your rumpus room in your house. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:38.320 I love that you called it a rumpus room because 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.080 that shows how old we are. But it's my I'm 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:46.720 in my garage. I love a rumpus room. A rumpus 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.440 room is so epic. I actually picture uh Rory and 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.320 Lorela like loving a rumpus room. I think they would. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.480 I think I think they would. Um. Alright, so who's 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:00.120 gonna Who's gonna take us away with our sin? Is 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:04.039 going to synopsize? Is that Danielle? Yeah? This is season four, 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:08.399 episode three, The Hobbit, the Sofa and Digger Styles Air date, 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:13.160 air date October seven, two thousand three, and the synopsis 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:16.360 is classes are starting at Yale and Rory is eager 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.320 to show up early. The first party is also being 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.640 held on Rory's floor, and Paris wants to make sure 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.720 it goes perfectly Emily and Richard go into business with 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.960 someone unexpected, and Suki and Lori like hater a Lord 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.880 of the Rings kids party where Suki has second thoughts 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:35.600 on becoming a mother. Well well well well well well 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:39.240 well well well were you in it? I think you 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.080 weren't in it. I don't think I was in it. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.880 I don't think so either. Yea, yeah, So that's I mean, 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.800 if we're going to judge it by you know, one 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.760 to ten dorm rooms, what are we giving it. I'm 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.560 knocking off a dorm room. It's already starting at a nine. Okay, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.800 even if it's like the greatest episode ever. There was 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:01.600 a reference to uh giving Rory what that muffins? Yeah? Yeah, 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.920 Suki sent the cookies and Luke sent the muffins, and 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.040 believe it or not, for that, I did receive a 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:15.839 full paycheck. Yeah. Yes, that is an interesting question, Like 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.240 if you're a regular, they have an episode that you're 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.840 not in, Like the week before that, Melissa wasn't in 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:27.560 all episodes produced. It's called all episodes cool, so nice? 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:32.399 So what do you think? What do you guys think? Um, 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:37.320 I'll let you guys start. Danielle, what do you think? Oh, 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:41.880 okay um. I thought it was great. I there's a 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:43.840 couple of things as a as a new person watching, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.760 I'm like, who's this digger styles guy gonna be? Who's 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:51.640 the naked guy on the floor d and and Suki 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.119 being a mom. I think she's gonna be the best 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.280 moment ever. But there's a lot of things here that 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.560 are new as the first time watcher that I'm like, 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:59.799 I wonder who these people are going to be. Are 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.320 they to be really important people? I don't know yet, 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:06.240 but you know, it's exciting to meet new people. Oh. 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.640 I love that take on it. I just think it 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.200 introduces like the new dynamic on the show because now 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:17.279 you're getting these other characters in, You're getting Rory's roommates, 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.760 the other students, and then there's more between Laura, Lee 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.880 and Suki now because Rory's gone. So I think it's 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.800 just a fun It was a fun episode for the 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:31.280 new dynamic. I love it. For me, this episode was 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:33.639 I felt like it was ten minutes. I'm like, what 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.440 but so fast? And I love the technique of using 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.920 the telephone to be able to have the interaction between 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.960 these characters we love. So we saw great phone calls 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:49.200 between Rory and Loraa Lae. That felt almost like they 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.760 were in the same room. Super fast banter, and I 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.080 loved how they used parents calling Laura Lee to get 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.680 that interaction and then the to me that was a 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.720 game changer. From there, we felt like we were missing 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:09.080 some of these interactions, and Paris called her interesting, interesting, interesting, interesting. I, however, 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:13.720 am going to take a different view. Um. You know, 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:19.800 I kept watching and wondering who was missing. I kept 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:24.640 missing Stars Hollow as the Town, I missed everybody in 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:28.320 the cast that wasn't in this. I saw that Suki 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:33.400 had replaced Rory I had. I saw that Paris had 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:37.960 replaced Laureli. Uh. So now we're we're dealing with a 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:43.400 new environment in the dorm room. Yale New Haven has 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.200 not been established. I don't, you know, I don't know 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.719 what it looks like. All I am and is inside 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.400 this dorm room. I'm not even really on the campus 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.600 very much. I'm not in a classroom, I'm not anywhere. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:59.760 So it's basically just Rory Um acting like she doesn't 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.920 want to interact with her new classmates, she doesn't want 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:08.560 to throw a party. Um and I saw these characters 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.720 in a in a way that I've never seen them 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:15.479 before in an environment that is brand new. So it's 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.800 three years established as stars Hollow and Babette and Miss 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.320 Patty and Kirk and Taylor and did And it's like 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:27.280 the humor for me really pops as commentary off of 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.120 all of these other characters and the zanies zane nous 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.760 and the and the beauty and the communal nature of 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:36.160 that town. That's what makes it warm and fuzzy. And 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.440 I found all of that missing, and I had a 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:45.520 very difficult time grasping or staying along with the ride. Um, 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.320 I think you're making a great point. It is missing 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:54.240 for me. I'm okay with this change. For me, it's 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:58.279 like giving it uh sort of a kick in the pants. 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.120 I'm not mad at the chain age. You're right, it's 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:09.760 definitely missing, but I'm enjoying what's happening. Well, Um, yeah, 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.919 I mean I made a whole list of like, you know, 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:15.520 Pairs is now a regular right now, She's gonna be 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:19.279 with Rory. Isn't that you know, strange bedfellows. We haven't 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.480 seen that before. We don't we don't see we don't 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.240 see mom and daughter together anymore. And this is the 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.440 core of the show, holding it together. That's the center 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.760 of the show. Everything else sort of revolves around that. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.200 That's the universe. That's the sun. Now the Sun has 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:38.239 broken asunder and all of the other planets are missing, 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.680 and we've got these new moons we're dealing with all that. 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.120 So it's a whole new universe. It's a whole new 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:48.200 galaxy that we're exploring. And it felt, you know, kind 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.360 of flat to me. It's like I was, I don't know, 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.520 I didn't want to leave the spaceship. I like the 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:55.760 ship I'm on. You know what I'm saying. That's a 0:06:55.839 --> 0:07:00.840 really good analogy. Analogy and say that her. I like 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.560 the ship we're on. So I think that's the thing. 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.520 Now there could be an element that I know the 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.320 ship and there are things coming that I love so much. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.600 So maybe I'm just comfortable because I've already been there before. 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.880 Were you? And Danielle, you're like a little bit more 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.240 jarred by it. Yeah, I'm a little jarred by how 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:24.040 Rory is already struggling, how she's already anti social, how 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:28.480 she's got these odd ball roommates, um and you know, 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.720 the Paris flip out, Get Out, Get out, get out 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.680 of this thing. And Rory just says, well, because she 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.520 was happy, she wanted to, she was stoked, and she 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.680 didn't have to. Look like here she is making all 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:42.520 these new friends and then her her whacko roommate flips 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:46.080 out on everybody and kicks everybody out. She's not worried 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.480 about her reputation. You know, it's like she didn't have 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:54.240 to do it. She was like skilled by association, right, No, 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:59.960 they're like that woman's crazy, that gal's crazy. Whatever's granddaughter. 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:07.680 So she had so she can get away. D a 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.080 are all the way, man, I can do anything. Well 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.640 discusses maybe a little bit later, but I feel like 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.480 Rory just had the reason why we're kind of like, oh, 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.600 what's going on with her? She's being anti social. I 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.880 think she just hasn't found her person yet. Like in 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.320 Stars Hollow, that was Laine, that's her mom, and in 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.160 Yale she doesn't have that, you know, like these people 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.640 that are trying to be friends with her or people 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:32.560 that she's not like, she's not going to go to 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:36.000 college and suddenly be different. That is who Rory is. 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.520 She loves her books. She's just showing us that, like 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.200 she loves being alone in her room reading her books. 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.679 So she's being pretty consistent that she's trying. And Paris 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:48.280 same thing. Paris is crazy, and I love that she 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.559 was just Paris. But we felt that she was safe 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.640 and that she was going to be successful while she 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.880 was in her home with her mother in her bedroom 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.360 reading her book, with all this crazy stuff happening around her, 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.080 with the miss Patties and the tailor's and the chesses 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:08.120 and all the stuff. Right, you, she always had a 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.480 heart to come home to and she was always going 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.559 to be protected. She doesn't have that protection anymore. I 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:16.360 mean she does with her grandmother with her with her mother, sure, 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.320 but she's on her own now and it's it's a 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.240 little I don't know, it's a little scared. I think 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.520 that's why Laurel I was like, maybe you should open 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:28.840 your door for the party, like out there, and that's 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:32.000 why like that second, sorry we're jumping around, but when 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.000 she like opens the book and she's like, no, I 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:35.880 shouldn't be doing this and she goes back out on 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:39.520 the party, she's like she's listening to Laurel. Yeah, and 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.040 she's trying, and I love it. And Paris tried for 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.240 one episode to be a kind normal person with her 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.719 life coach, and now she's back because she's like, I'm 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:53.600 not having fun. They're just not there yet. I like, yeah, 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:58.600 they agreed to one candle before we dig in. I 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.720 want to know what Scott and Dan, you'll think of 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:08.720 two people, Marty and Digger? Go ahead? Yeah? All right? 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:14.559 Um Marty, I was like, whatever, okay, Um, obviously there's 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:19.360 there might be something you know, uh, awaiting Rory in 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:24.640 the future for potential love interest there um and Digger? 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:30.320 What did I think? You know what I thought about Digger? Right? Well, 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.280 I didn't think about Digger, but I thought about Richard. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.600 I thought, why is Richard so blind? And Emily has 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.439 a point, and I understand why Emily popped at him. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.679 Why are you getting involved with somebody's son who has 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.480 a revenge game going? Aren't you smarter than that? Don't 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.760 you see that this is never going to be successful? 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.120 And why would you do this? And aren't you sensitive 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.240 to what we've been going through with our own daughter, 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:59.320 who's you know, seeking revenge on us? Yeah? But it's like, 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.439 why didn't just see the shot? Is he so blinded 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.920 by his own need for revenge that he's gonna get 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.280 involved with Digger and do this thing, which you know 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:09.920 in the middle of it, Digger is going to go 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:11.560 you know, I think I've made a mistake. I'm gonna 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.120 go back to my family. I mean, it's like Digger 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.800 gave him a solid pitch. I I just I was 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.440 surprised that Richard fell for it, you know, because it 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.040 felt to me like a setup. It felt to me 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.440 like there's going to be more pain for Richard coming, Like, 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:27.720 how are you trusting the son of the man who 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.240 fired you after you gave your heart and soul for 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:34.480 thirty five years or forty years to that firm. Interesting point, 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.480 and Richard's doing so well on his own. He didn't 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:40.280 really mean Digger, but I think he also Richard wants 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.240 to win, and he wants to beat the guy that 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.400 fired him, Diggers. Diggers the Trojan horse, and he led 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:55.199 him in. I mean, it's just boy. Yeah. So Christopher Aigman, 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.400 I don't want to say his name wrong plays Digger. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.600 The one thing I will say is I feel like 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:03.400 an he's also on Masal. He knows how to do 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:09.360 that Gilmore script, because I felt like right away he 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.360 was nailing it. He was. He had the jokes, he 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:16.600 had the rhythm, so I felt very comfortable with him immediately. Yeah, 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.800 he's very waspy in that character. He's very waspy, right, 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:24.640 So he's upper krusty, waspy guy, Harvard Grad and uh 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.080 and I haven't seen Myzelle and I haven't seen him 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.640 in it. He's got a small part, but he's great. 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:34.600 Like he you know, he's he just immediately to me, 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.319 fits in in the rhythm. Yeah, without without question. But 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.760 I am surprised that Richard fell for it so quickly. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.880 I mean, this was an obvious trojan horse to me. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:44.800 And we'll see how it develops. I don't know how 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.320 it develops, but we'll send you anyway. Um, so let's 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.800 break it down, you know. That's that's that's what my 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:56.480 overall initial impression was. After finishing the episode, I was, 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.160 I don't know, I was I was thinking, you know, like, 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.719 did this show just jumped the shark? What's going on here? 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.360 We got to get it back to stars Hallow. We 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.920 got to get back in the space capsule and get 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.160 back to the planet stars Hollow. You know, So I 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.480 like where you're that you're bringing that up, But to me, 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.600 I was just as happy. When we segue a scene 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.319 back to heart to Yale, I'm like, this is great. 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.760 I love it here. I don't know, I don't know. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.840 I like Yale. I think it's because like also, like 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.160 like I said, how the graduation episode kind of closed 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.360 that chapter. I think that now, like when you're so 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.800 comfortable being and start, it's like Rory, she was so 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:37.559 comfortable and now you're like, oh my god, where is 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.200 this place? I don't know? Where's that bad? Where's this fatty? 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:41.880 Like you don't know where all these places are. But 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.640 I think it's just like we're growing up with her. 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.040 I think that's yeah. I agree. And then it makes 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.199 it because obviously, like Rory is going to go back 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.280 to Stars Hollow at some point, you know what I mean. 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.920 And so it makes me look forward to those scenes 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.920 where she is back. It's, you know, um, like distance 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.480 makes the heart grow fonder, Like I make sited for 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:04.640 when when we will have those episodes where Rory is uh, 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.559 you know, goes back to Josie's market, goes back to 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.720 the diner. Like I'm excited for that, but I'm also 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:14.840 enjoying Yale at the time. Being. I wonder, Scott if sorry, 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.800 I wonder I have a question for you. I wonder 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.840 if they hadn't pretended she just didn't go to Yale 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.120 and she went to like the Stars all of college? 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:27.320 Whatever would you be? Would you be watching it? And 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.920 would you be would you be bored? Maybe the change 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.360 is like jarring for you. But I wonder if they 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.880 made a great call, because this show is not monotonous. 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.640 I feel like, here we are in season four, firing 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:45.840 on all cylinders top of the Gilmore game. I'm not bored. 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.560 It's not a typical season four where you're like, it's 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.400 just the same old, same old modern family, you know. Whatever. 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:57.040 What I'm doing is I'm questioning the wisdom of getting 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:01.640 her off to college after only three seasons, and was 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.920 thinking this should have been dragged out for six or 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.120 seven seasons, keep her in high school for six or 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.960 seven seasons, and then ship her off to college, because 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.840 once you leave that Stars hollow, that's a tough sledding. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.240 And I know the fans still love it, and I 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:22.440 know it's a very very loyal fan base, but for 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.160 me personally watching this show as a fan, discovering it 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.480 for the first time, I want to be in Stars. Hum, 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.400 I don't want to be a Yale. Yes, people agree 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.120 with you. Yeah, I'm sure I want to. I mean 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.880 they could have you know, milked you know one what 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.040 was she going as a junior or software? She wanted 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.400 to Chilton as a sophomore. Okay, so that's three three 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:49.920 years you've got there. You can do two seasons per year, right, 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:52.760 people agree with you. You can do what you can 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.440 do two seasons per year. You can do it. Want 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:59.040 to be in the summer seven years and done with Chilton. 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.920 I'm done with Childen. Done what they but but you 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:03.960 could but you could have done it because you know, 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.440 Alexis looked so young anyway. I mean Lane was twenty 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.680 seven and playing high school. But like Chicken, Madeline Louise, 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.120 I don't need to you know what I mean. Like, 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:16.160 they're fine, cool, they showed up great, like oh, you know, applause, applause, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.000 and you know that's that's that's another point. You're not 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.960 only out of Stars Hollow, you're out of Chilton. We 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.040 got to know all those people, those whether we love 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:26.920 them or hate and we want to bring their next 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.440 or we want to be friends with them. We were 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.080 familiar with them, we know them. They give us comfort 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:37.920 familiarly like change, let's let's really, let's not on this show. Yeah, 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.160 because I love the change. I love that we went 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.040 from Dean to jail. I love that I know Logan. 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.600 So wait a minute. So they go from a fancy, tony, 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.640 expensive private school, which Chilton is. We see the interiors, 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.640 we get a sense of it, we can smell it, 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:55.960 we see all the uniforms, we see everything that's going 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:57.680 on the teachers, and then we get to we get 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.920 to Yale, there's none of that, and Yale is one 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.600 the most regal universities in the world. You're just mad 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.000 that we're only filming in the dorm. Yes, it's it's 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.080 like it's boring. It's like, get out of the dorm 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.639 show us. I don't know you're gonna send her to Yale. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.159 Go film it Yale or one class at Whale. And 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:18.600 I didn't feel that whe when they went to empty table. Yeah, 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:23.160 she showed up so early and Marty to but also 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.720 this is day one, Like this is day on one 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:31.600 of I feel like I'm fighting for stars because there 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.120 I will say that, like the episode that we're in, 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.720 like she's it's school has barely started yet, like she 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.400 is trying to get comfortable on campus in her dorm. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.679 So we haven't even gotten to like the nitty gritties 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.480 of her classes, her teachers and so on. Okay, but 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.000 the creators have to know and the network has to 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.159 know that we are leaving Chilton, which we love as 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.520 an audience. We are we've established all the those locations 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.359 and all those teachers and and the headmaster. We haven't 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:04.080 met anybody at Yale. We haven't met that. Yeah, we've 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.159 met the roommates and we've met Marty. I don't care 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:11.879 about the dean. Okay, we've met a couple of girls 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.240 in a in an outdoor corridor, but we haven't seen 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.000 the campus. We haven't care. We don't get a sense. 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.160 I'm not getting a sense of it. But I haven't 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.080 established Yale for me. Respect to you, but I don't care. 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:27.520 And also I don't care about children. I'm done with children. 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.159 You know who I care about, Rory. That's who I 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.960 care about, Rory. So I don't care about Chiltern. Goodbye Chiltern. 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.320 I was bored by you. Now here we go like 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.080 I am bored by you and your static photo every 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:43.280 time we went to Chiltern. I'm ready for Rory. I 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:51.200 don't really for me, I thought me conversations, we're also good. 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:55.480 It just I loved this. I thought it moves. Wait 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.600 a minute, you didn't think that the Suki freak out 0:18:57.640 --> 0:18:59.159 about get it out of me, get it out of me, 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.800 get it out of me? Was bizarre. No, I loved 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.600 every second of it because it's also this. I wrote 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.800 this down. One of my very favorite scenes ever on 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.919 Sex in the City is when Carrie Bradshaw puts on 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:15.639 her wedding dress and she literally realizes I can't get married, 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:17.639 and she says, get it off, get it off, and 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.360 they're like literally ripping it off of her and it's 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:25.439 hilarious and emotional. And I felt the same way about this. 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.960 I thought that scene between Lauren and Melissa Suki and 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.760 lor la was one of their best scenes in the 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.639 whole run of the series. It was so well done. 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:38.520 Melissa McCarthy, to me, won this episode, won the episode 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:42.200 because we got to see her be different than just pratfalls. 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:49.520 I was like, Wow, she's amazing. Mm hmmm, yeah, Okay, 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.160 go back to the beginning. So what do you think 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.239 that obviously we opened up in the dorm room. We've 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.160 got the rug, we've got the this, we've got the muffins, 0:19:56.200 --> 0:20:00.200 we got the cookies. And Laura Lyne knows my there 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:05.040 was here. She can smell her guilt and Chanelle number five, 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.720 this is this is another issue I have. It's like, 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:12.840 just take the gift, you know, be grateful the grandmother care. 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.240 She furnished the place, and they're trying to create all 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:20.320 this drama and all these issues about something that they 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.440 should be thanking her for. In my opinion, they can 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:27.720 be thanking her issue. The place wasn't furnished. There was 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:30.840 no new new furniture. Yet this is the opening where 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:34.720 Lorelai knows that Emily has been there ahead and sorry, 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:39.679 it's okay, that's okay, you're fired. Okay, you're fired. So 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:44.560 we have the hint there because I thought to myself, 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:48.199 was Emily, there is Emily there? Like I knew Lorelai 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:52.680 was probably right for sure, you don't have that scene 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:56.119 and not have Emily later, you know. So then we 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.040 have the scene in class where we first see Marty, 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.680 so we basically lee what I took aways, like Rory 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:07.080 showed up literally so early and so did this other guy. 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:11.080 Oh my god, they're they're kindred souls. And then the 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:14.400 t A is like, you idiot freshman. I like how 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.359 Laurel I was like every year you try to convince 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:22.040 me that the teacher wants me, Like, no teacher wants 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:25.439 to meet at six thirty. That just shows who she is. 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:28.159 And like I like that she had another another person 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:30.520 in the class with her, like, oh I'm not the 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.880 only one. Yeah, that's cute. Yeah. So we're look, we're 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:37.080 meeting Marty and that's a big deal, like, okay, here 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:45.480 here he is. No, Scott's just you didn't like it. No, 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.960 I'm I'm listening. I'm listening. You know. It didn't impact 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.080 me in any way. Really, it was just like whatever. 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.320 So then we go back and we're in Suki Suki's 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.640 kitchen and Jackson's doing his bit with the baby monitor, 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:00.680 and we kind of and that they want to have 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:06.040 a catering job. Also awful, like your sound system in 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.440 your house hooked up to the baby monitor. That would 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:14.199 drive me bonkers. That was pretty funny though, Um you 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:17.119 know we I almost did that. We had monitors upstairs 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:23.040 and we had paranoid dad. Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:25.720 it was very protective. You relate to Jackson in that 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:29.080 oh yeah, big time, big time. Yeah, I mean, and 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:32.840 in that regard, yes, I had that house sort of 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:36.440 bugged and there was video everywhere. I mean, that kid, 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.639 that kid couldn't make a move or a poop or 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:42.800 a fart without me knowing about it, Like there he 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:46.320 goes again. So I think that that's cute then that 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.879 Jackson is that way for me. One of the questions 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.640 I have throughout this whole episode is how did they 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:55.520 get permission to use all those Lord of the Rings things? 0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:59.320 Is Lord of the Rings Warner Brothers? I believe, I believe, 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.920 I believe that. I believe that it is a Warner 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:07.240 Brothers thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that's the only way, 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:11.520 because it was pretty extensive, wasn't. It wasn't like one reference, 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:15.920 it was it was major. It was it's Warner Brothers. 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:20.320 And yeah that was even Yeah, they even played like 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:25.000