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Speaker 2: Said, baking soda another ingredient, and a lot of toothpaste

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Speaker 2: that we'll see on the shelves and whatnot. This makes

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Speaker 2: me think about something else that a lot of people

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Speaker 2: think about when it comes to their teeth, and obviously

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Speaker 2: that's keeping them white or making them whiter. So for

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Speaker 2: someone that may be using some of these conventional products,

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Speaker 2: whether they be something like a white strip or these

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Speaker 2: whitening toothpastes, what should we be keeping in mind on

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Speaker 2: that front.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question. So so many products, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: are not ideal for our oral microbiomes, especially some of

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Speaker 1: the big brand toothpaste and rinses. You need to be

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Speaker 1: very careful. So personally, I think less is more. We

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Speaker 1: really want to preserve this delicate microbiome. We've all been

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Speaker 1: conditioned to disinfect the mouth, and we're just overdoing it

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Speaker 1: because we're killing our healthy bacteria two. And what that

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Speaker 1: does is it actually makes.

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Speaker 4: Us more prone to disease.

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Speaker 1: So being very careful of things like sodium, laurel, sulfate, emulsifiers, factants,

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Speaker 1: certainly food you know, any food dyes that are in there,

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Speaker 1: heavy alcohols or stringents, and even essential oils because they

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Speaker 1: are not specific. So they're yes, they're targeting and killing

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Speaker 1: our bad bacteria, but they're also damaging our healthy bacteria too,

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Speaker 1: So just buy or beware. And I have a lot

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Speaker 1: more information on you know, my social pages too because

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Speaker 1: this we could dive deep into this. So you have

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Speaker 1: to be careful with some bleaching agents because they do

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Speaker 1: have a lot of additives in them that can affect

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Speaker 1: the microbiome. It can disrupt our oral mucosa caused sensitivity.

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Speaker 1: So I like, honestly baking soda that can really help.

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Speaker 1: Or I like oil pulling too with coconut oil, And

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Speaker 1: for those that are unfamiliar with that, that's when you

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Speaker 1: take like a little tablespoon of ideally raw organic coconut

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Speaker 1: oil and you put it in your mouth and you

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Speaker 1: swish with it for a few minutes, and you'll see

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Speaker 1: a whitening effect with that. And it's one of those

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Speaker 1: things don'tkno it till you try it. But that really

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Speaker 1: can help support oral health too, And it's an aravatic

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Speaker 1: practice that's been used, you know, forever and ever. But

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Speaker 1: I'm a big proponent of oil pulling a few times

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Speaker 1: a week. What else, O Luminu is a brand I

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Speaker 1: really like of white strips. They're a little less caustic

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Speaker 1: and toxic. You can put that in the show notes too.

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Speaker 1: But also hydroxy appetite toothpaste can help whiten also because

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Speaker 1: what it's doing is it's filling in microporosities or irregularities

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Speaker 1: in your enamel surface. And so if you can create

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Speaker 1: a smoother enamel surface, when light reflects off from that,

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Speaker 1: it's going to look brighter and whiter and more shiny.

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Speaker 1: So those are some more I guess holistic if you

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Speaker 1: will waiyte to whiten your teeth, if you really want

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Speaker 1: like that Hollywood bright white look, you'll probably need to

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Speaker 1: go see an esthetic dentist and kind of get some

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Speaker 1: more in office bleaching done. But those are some great

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Speaker 1: take homes for home.

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Speaker 2: I mentally just added organic coconut oil to my Amazon

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Speaker 2: shopping cart just how you Also, in the listing of

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Speaker 2: these great alternatives and products, you said something that stuck

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Speaker 2: with me, which is it doesn't know how to differentiate

547
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Speaker 2: between the good bacteria and the bad bacteria, which my

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Speaker 2: mind then went to charcoal because I know that in

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Speaker 2: some of my health reporting that is one of those

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Speaker 2: things that can be one of those ingredients of you

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Speaker 2: will that can be a little bit controversial because it

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Speaker 2: can have the same effect.

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Speaker 3: I know that we see charcoal a lot lately in these.

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Speaker 2: Different buzzy whitening tooth products as well, So any input

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Speaker 2: on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have mixed feelings about charcoal. I don't love

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Speaker 1: it long term, but I think it's one of those

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Speaker 1: things if you want to do it for maintenance like

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Speaker 1: here and there, I think it's fine. But just making

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Speaker 1: sure you're finding a product that you know is maybe

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Speaker 1: third party test and that the charcoals from a quality

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Speaker 1: source to because a lot of these things like bentonite

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Speaker 1: clay and charcoal, they can be contaminated with heavy metals

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Speaker 1: and just different things to do. So just find a

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Speaker 1: brand that you really like that's reputable. But I don't

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Speaker 1: like charcoal being used every day because it can be

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Speaker 1: a little abrasive to it actually can be damaging your

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Speaker 1: enamel a little bit, So I would use that pretty periodically.

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Speaker 2: Would you say that there are any quote unquote healthy

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Speaker 2: practices that we have been conventionally sold via the dentists

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Speaker 2: that maybe aren't actually that good for us after all?

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Speaker 1: I would say the top one that pops into my

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Speaker 1: mind is oral rinses. I am not a big fan

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Speaker 1: of oral rinses because most are stripping.

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Speaker 4: The oral microbiome.

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Speaker 1: You know, what you do an oral rins usually because

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Speaker 1: you're trying to kill ninety nine point nine percent of germs.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we just need to get out of that

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Speaker 1: mentality that like germ theory mentality. We really instead, I think,

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Speaker 1: need to have a mind shift, set shift, and really

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Speaker 1: be supporting the healthy microbes rather than trying to kill

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Speaker 1: the negative microbes. If you focus on supporting the healthy

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Speaker 1: microbes in your body, whether it's your mouth, your gut,

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Speaker 1: wherever it is, you're going to crowd out the bad guys,

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Speaker 1: you know. So it's just it's almost a more positive approach,

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Speaker 1: like just let's support those beneficial bacteria in our body.

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Speaker 3: Got it? Got it?

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Speaker 2: And the next area to focus on here would be

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Speaker 2: perhaps the things we talked about the benefit of nutrition,

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Speaker 2: maybe other things that we are consciously or unconsciously putting

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Speaker 2: in our mouth throughout the day, whether that could be

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Speaker 2: chewing gum or seltzers or mints. I think that there

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Speaker 2: are some pretty frequently ingested items that might not be

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Speaker 2: doing our teeth the best service.

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Speaker 3: Any highlights on that front.

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Speaker 1: Great segue. I love it so Yeah. Something that many

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Speaker 1: people don't realize is every time you put anything in

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Speaker 1: your mouth besides water, you are altering the pH of

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Speaker 1: your mouth to be one of more acidic in nature.

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Speaker 1: So our mouth starts our digestive process. Enzymes come in

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Speaker 1: to break things down. So if you're sipping, snacking, chewing

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Speaker 1: here and there all day, we call.

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Speaker 4: It like grazing.

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Speaker 1: Your mouth is staying in this constant state of acidity,

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Speaker 1: and so you are really setting yourself up for potential issues.

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Speaker 1: We really like to see all humans kids are adults

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Speaker 1: eating more on a schedule, you know. So like you

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Speaker 1: have breakfast at eight, maybe you have a snack at

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Speaker 1: ten am where you sit, you're mindfully eating it in

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Speaker 1: one sitting, You chew it, maybe you drink.

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Speaker 4: Some water and then that's it. You move on.

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Speaker 1: Lunch is at noon. We're such a society on the go.

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Speaker 1: We're grabbing, we're nibbling, we're snacking, we're sipping like something

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Speaker 1: always in our mouths, and that is affecting our or micromyown.

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Speaker 1: So really trying to eat more in a schedule. Be

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Speaker 1: very mindful about your drinks too. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people don't realize. As you mentioned, seltzer water, soda waters, kombucha.

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Speaker 1: While some of these are healthier alternatives and they and

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Speaker 1: some have health benefits, like kombucha, they will alter the

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Speaker 1: pH of your mouth and they are acidic, and you know,

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Speaker 1: kombucha has a lot of sugar in it too, So

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Speaker 1: just be careful with things like that. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: don't ever drink them, but just be aware of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a big soda water fan. I try

625
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Speaker 1: to make sure I'm drinking it with a meal because

626
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Speaker 1: if as I'm chewing my food, I'm increasing my saliva,

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Speaker 1: it helps rinse off some of those acids from my

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Speaker 1: teeth and then I'll drink water after. Or if you

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Speaker 1: want to be really an overachiever, you could rinse with

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Speaker 1: some baking soda after because that will help neutralize.

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Speaker 2: And is it the carbonation in the soda water that

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Speaker 2: something for us to be concerned of. I know I

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Speaker 2: have a girlfriend who she herself is obsessed with soda water,

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Speaker 2: and funnily enough, funnily enough, comically enough, her son, who

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Speaker 2: is two years old now, also loves soda water.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I like it as an alternative

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Speaker 1: to soda obviously, but yes, the carbonation does it is

638
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Speaker 1: what lowers the pH got it got. It affects the

639
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Speaker 1: microbiome too, so it's a little damaging. And it can

640
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Speaker 1: damage your enamel a little bit too, So you know,

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Speaker 1: again trying not to sip on that all day long.

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Speaker 1: A perfect world, I wish people were just drinking water,

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Speaker 1: but you know that's not realistic all the time for everyone.

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Speaker 1: I will say something I like people to add to

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Speaker 1: their water when they are drinking it is our trace minerals.

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Speaker 1: So we are associating a lot of dental disease, including

647
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Speaker 1: undermineralized teeth, which we're seeing an increase in children being

648
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: born with their teeth already susceptible. They're like modeled, they're fragile,

649
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Speaker 1: they just didn't develop ideally. We're associating that a lot

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Speaker 1: with trace mineral deficiency. We know that we are. Our

651
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Speaker 1: top soil is very depleted of minerals. Our foods are

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Speaker 1: depleted of minerals, particularly magnesium. But I like people adding

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Speaker 1: a little trace minerals into their water too, so obviously,

654
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Speaker 1: work with your doctor. I also really like people knowing

655
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: their vitamin D levels. It's incredibly important, and low vitamin

656
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: D is correlated with increased cavity risk and increased oral

657
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Speaker 1: disease as well as in all kinds of downstream health

658
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Speaker 1: issues systemically too.

659
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Speaker 2: So you and I were You and I were rapping

660
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 2: about our love for Athletic Greens before the show started,

661
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: And the good thing about Athletic Greens right now is

662
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 2: that if you buy it, you get a year's supply

663
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Speaker 2: of vitamin D and travel packs with your purchase right

664
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Speaker 2: off the bat. So for me, I've been and this

665
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Speaker 2: is something else we'll have to talk about in just

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Speaker 2: a second. I put one to two you know, droppers

667
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: drops of the vitamin D into my morning coffee and

668
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, this is just something great that I

669
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Speaker 2: can do for myself totally.

670
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Speaker 1: And what I really like about their vitamin D is

671
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Speaker 1: they've paired it with K two, So in D three,

672
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Speaker 1: K two is critical. It's really important for dental development.

673
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: K two essentially is like a traffic cop It tells

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Speaker 1: calcium where to go and it helps facilitate vitamin D

675
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: as well. So we associate a lot of dental issues

676
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: with K two deficiency. Also, Western Price was a dentist

677
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: in the early nineteen hundreds and like the thirties and

678
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Speaker 1: the forties, who really was ahead of his time, and

679
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: he traveled around the world and he was analyzing and

680
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: assessing and observing ancestral humans and ancestral.

681
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Speaker 4: Diets, and he noticed how beautiful their teeth were. Many

682
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: people don't.

683
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Speaker 1: Know this, but cavities are very new to humans. About

684
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: ten twelve thousand years ago, we did not have cabin

685
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: If you look at at skulls.

686
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 4: There were zero cavities.

687
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Speaker 1: It was not until the agricultural and the industrialized revolutions

688
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Speaker 1: where we started milling grains, making flowers, packaging foods, increasing

689
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: sugars in our foods, that we started having this rampant decay.

690
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Speaker 1: If you really think about it, like cavities, I don't

691
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: want to be fear mongering, but they're the hardest our

692
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: teeth or our hardest substance in our body. And so

693
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: a cavity is when that substance is dissolving. So that

694
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Speaker 1: really doesn't mean there's some sort of imbalance happening in

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Speaker 1: your body. And I think so often we've been taught,

696
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: you know, cavities are just cavities. This is just we

697
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Speaker 1: just get them and we'll just you know, deal with

698
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: it at the dentists, but really trying to think, wow,

699
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 1: this might be something. There might be other things going

700
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: on in my body if I'm really prone to cavities

701
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: and working with ideally like a functional dentists or holistic

702
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: dentists or just an open minded traditional dentists that can

703
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Speaker 1: help you get to root causes and maybe assess for

704
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: nutritional deficiencies, like Western Price was pointing out, and he

705
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Speaker 1: was the one that really said K two. WHOA, like,

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00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: we are K two deficient in our society. You know,

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Speaker 1: our gut it does create some K two for us,

708
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: but so many of us have gut issues now that

709
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: we're maybe not synthesizing enough K two. And so we

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Speaker 1: get K two from fermented foods and from hard cheeses

711
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: and various other animal products, but they're not very common

712
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: or plentiful in our modern diet. So the D three

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Speaker 1: K two by athletic greens. I'm a fan of good diet.

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Speaker 3: That's the advice.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned the buzzword of coffee, another buzzword for many,

717
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: or phrase perhaps red wine. Let's talk about what drinking

718
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: these quote unquote staining drinks does to you our mouth.

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00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, you will maybe be increased risk

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Speaker 1: for staining. And we're all a little bit more societ.

721
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: Some are really susceptible disdaining and some aren't. And that

722
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Speaker 1: does have to do with the quality of your enamel.

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Speaker 1: You know, coffee's pretty acidic. Wine can be too, but

724
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: you do have to live life. That's my most important message,

725
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: is like it's all about finding balance. And you know,

726
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Speaker 1: if you believe in the eighty twenty rule, I'm a

727
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Speaker 1: pretty big proponent of that. You know, if you're really

728
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Speaker 1: if you want to be really cautious, I would rinse

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Speaker 1: with water after you consume beverages like that, just plain

730
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Speaker 1: water or again baking soda rinses.

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Speaker 4: It can really help a lot.

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Speaker 2: I remember I went to an event once and the

733
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Speaker 2: dentist was like saying that he drinks his stuff through straw.

734
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Speaker 3: Does that do anything?

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Speaker 1: It can help, Yeah, especially like a lot of people

736
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Speaker 1: drink warm lemon water in the morning. I do too,

737
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: and lemon can be very damaging to your enamel, especially

738
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Speaker 1: if you're sipping on it all day long, so I

739
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Speaker 1: prefer you know, again, this can be a little much

740
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Speaker 1: for people, but if you can drink it.

741
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Speaker 4: Out of a straw.

742
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: That's cool at the very least, just try to drink

743
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: it in one sitting kind of quickly and then rents

744
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: with water. But I wouldn't extend it over an hour

745
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Speaker 1: or so.

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Speaker 2: And I love what you said about the eighty twenty

747
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: rule because, as with any habit, really it's like the

748
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: things that you're going to stick with, the things that

749
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: you're going to upkeep, are things that feel doable for you. Right, So,

750
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Speaker 2: rather than setting all of these brand new dental goals

751
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: immediately after listening to this podcast, do an honest audit

752
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: with yourself about like, what's within my power. That's something

753
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 2: I can do tomorrow that will make me one percent

754
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 2: better And maybe then there's another habit a few days

755
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: or weeks later that you can integrate to get one

756
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: percent better again.

757
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.

758
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean the easy ones, the low hanging through, drink

759
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: more water, work on your flossing, And I would say

760
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: if you are mouth breathing, I would really try to

761
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: get that addressed because I there are long term systemic

762
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: issues associated with that, particularly cardiovascular issues and mental health

763
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: issues too, like Alzheimer's and things.

764
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 2: So I feel like we've seen on social media since

765
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: that book came out, like a lot of people going

766
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: to bed and like taping their mouths lip taper.

767
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: Oh are you a paper every night?

768
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

769
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: Wow?

770
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: Oh it is life changing. It's a danger.

771
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have my aura ring and if I

772
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: don't do it, my sleep is a disaster.

773
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: And I can I ask your personal question please?

774
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: Of course?

775
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: Are you single?

776
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: No? My husband?

777
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love you.

778
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 4: My husband liptapes too. Just listen.

779
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: Sleep is the most important thing for your body.

780
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 4: It really is.

781
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: It's foundational. I don't care how many hit workouts you do.

782
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: I don't care how well you eat.

783
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 4: I don't care whatever you're doing.

784
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: If you are not sleeping while if you're not getting

785
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: in deep restorative sleep, and that a lot has to

786
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: do with mouth breathing, you will not be healthy. I mean,

787
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: you really will have a shortened life expectancy. It's a

788
00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: kind of a big deal.

789
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, so funny.

790
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember I interviewed Ritual not that long

791
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 2: ago for GQ, and he sleeps in a tent outside

792
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: of his home so him and his wife don't share

793
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 2: the same bed, And I.

794
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: Asked him a personal question.

795
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: I was like, do you feel like this infects your intimacy,

796
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: which is just kind of like the same gut reaction

797
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: that I felt when I was like, do you have

798
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: a partner that sleeps next to you while your mouth

799
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: is taped when you go to bed?

800
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean you pick and choose the knight to

801
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 4: do it right?

802
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: So oh man, another podcast for another time.

803
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 4: When you're at that level of comfort with one another,

804
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 4: you know.

805
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: For you, you know what I strive for a personal

806
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: relationship where I feel as though I can a just

807
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: sleep next to someone regularly and be do it while

808
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: taping my mouth.

809
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 4: He like tapes down too. I finally gotten to do it.

810
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 2: So okay, So I mean you addressed again the low

811
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: hanging fruit. I would say one that you probably want

812
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: to add to that. Make sure that you get an

813
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: appointment with a dentist on your calendar. Make sure that

814
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: it is in your immediate future if you haven't done

815
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 2: it specifically for sure over the last eighteen twenty months.

816
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: As I raise my hand, I am certainly guilty of.

817
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: Is there anything else that we haven't addressed here that's

818
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: really important for us to touch before I let you go.

819
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: When it comes to best practices for our gental health.

820
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just say another one I didn't mention

821
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: it was tongue scraping. That's another aravatic practice. It's one

822
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: of those things. Don't knock it till you try it.

823
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: But I'm a big proponent of tongue scraping for oral

824
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: microbiome support and balance. And not only will you just

825
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: clean your tongue and help lower your bacterial load in

826
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: your mouth, but you'll actually taste better. Food will taste

827
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: better because you're removing like trace amounts of food and things,

828
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: which sounds going to gross, But anyway, I'm a big proponent.

829
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Speaker 4: Check it out.

830
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: I think you'll be pleasantly surprised what you feel like

831
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: after you do it.

832
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to have you send me a bunch of

833
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: links to all the things that you mentioned here so

834
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: that I can make sure that I include all of

835
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: them in the show notes. So if you have a

836
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: go to tongue scraper, the hurdlers are ready.

837
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: To buy it.

838
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 4: All right, I'm in, I got it.

839
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Speaker 3: I love it. I am so grateful for your time today, Stacy.

840
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, do let me know how

841
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: do the hurdlers follow along with you? You mentioned you

842
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: have a book coming out. Give us the details on

843
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: all this stuff so we can keep up with you

844
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: going forward.

845
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.

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00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm mostly on Instagram. My handles doctor Underscore

847
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: Stacey and that's Docto R Underscore Staci and I have

848
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: all kinds of additional information there. I have a lot

849
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: of new guides coming out of courses coming out.

850
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 4: My book.

851
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm still working with my publisher, so it's a long process,

852
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: but I'm hoping that comes out next year. I have

853
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: a cookbook I'm working on. I do have a website,

854
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: Doctor Stacy dot com. If you're in the Pacific Northwest,

855
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: you can come see me at my office. It's called

856
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: No Poe Kids Dentistry. That's n PO. It stands for

857
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: North Portland where we do take a whole body approach

858
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: to your child's health.

859
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 4: But also part of whole.

860
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: Body health to me is environmental health and sustainability. And

861
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: I have launched it's in pre sales. It's an investor

862
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: around but something called happy Floss and Happy Floss is

863
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: the first completely compostable sustainable floss pic.

864
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 4: It's made of paper.

865
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: And so if you out there, hurdlers know any investors,

866
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 1: Angel investors, vcs, anyone that wants to help me get

867
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: this off the ground, I'd really appreciate it. But you

868
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: can check more about happy Floss at happyfloss dot com

869
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: and it's it's happy with an I H A P

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Speaker 1: p ifloss dot com.

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Speaker 3: You never know who's listening. We have a very well

872
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 3: connected corrector.

873
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 4: No, you never know. It just takes that one person.

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Speaker 2: I love it well again, thank you so much. I'm

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Speaker 2: over at Hurdle Podcasts and at Emily a Body. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to go buy some floss right now. Another heard,

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Speaker 2: all conquered. Catch you guys next time.