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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lowie Das Williamson. It

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Speaker 2: is a Thursday. We're heading into week two here. Week

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Speaker 2: two actually kicks off tonight in the NFL Eagles and

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Speaker 2: the Vikings. But Matt, the Steelers and Brown's practicing for

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Speaker 2: their Monday night game at Akroscher Stadium, and I can't

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Speaker 2: get past you know, I know the Steelers won't have

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Speaker 2: Cam Hayward for this game and for the near future,

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Speaker 2: foreseeable future. Here we'll see when he is able to

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Speaker 2: come back. Here's a little stat for you, okay, since

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Speaker 2: he has joined the Cleveland Browns seven games now, Yes,

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Speaker 2: deshaum And has a forty point seven completion percentage when

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Speaker 2: under pressure.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw that. That's horrific.

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Speaker 2: Only Zach Wilson, who's about the worst Taylor Heineke, have

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Speaker 2: worse completion percentages than Watson went under pressure since twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two minimum of fifty attempts. Yeah, Watson last week

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Speaker 2: against Cincinnati was four for eleven for sixty eight yards

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Speaker 2: in an interception. That's a twenty point three passer rating

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Speaker 2: when he was under pressure. The Steelers, despite playing as

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Speaker 2: poorly as they did last week, had a forty point

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Speaker 2: six quarterback pressure percentage against the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 3: I think that was like fifth or sixth in the league.

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Speaker 2: I was tied for ninth highest ninth.

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Speaker 3: I knew it was impressive, and obviously Watt had a

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Speaker 3: lot to do with it, but it wasn't alone. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Watt had a great game, but they did rush the

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Speaker 3: passer pretty well in that game, even with Hayward sidelined

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Speaker 3: more than half the game. I can't remember exactly when

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Speaker 3: he got.

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Speaker 2: Hurt, but it was in the first half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the first half. He tried to come

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Speaker 3: back briefly. Briefly. Yeah, I think that's a huge key

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Speaker 3: to it. And Watson isn't as dangerous late in the

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Speaker 3: down as he used to be, or at least hasn't

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Speaker 3: proven to be. It's probably still in him somewhere. His

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Speaker 3: accuracy wanes under pressure. He was never super accurate to

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Speaker 3: begin with. He invites chaos more than he should from

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Speaker 3: holding the football trying to be the best athlete on

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Speaker 3: the field. Like he's still at Clemson, and I think

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Speaker 3: that's a huge key. I mean, so we've been doing

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Speaker 3: this a long time and I didn't we didn't discuss

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Speaker 3: this beforehand, but I'm betting your next question or comment is,

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Speaker 3: do you think the Steelers blitz like crazy in this game? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of thinking without Cam.

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Speaker 2: You know, if without CAM, you gotta generate if you got.

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Speaker 3: To generate that pressure no matter what.

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Speaker 2: So if you look at what they did last year

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Speaker 2: when they didn't have TJ. Watt, when they did have

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Speaker 2: what they played basically a four man rush.

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Speaker 3: Because they could, because they could blitzberg don't exists if

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Speaker 3: you needed to know, right.

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Speaker 2: When they didn't have what, they blitzed more. They tried

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Speaker 2: to generate that pressure in different ways. So yeah, I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's one way to do it. And I

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Speaker 2: want to put somebody into Sean Watson's face at all

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Speaker 2: times every time he drops back to throw the ball,

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Speaker 2: because he doesn't handle it. Well.

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Speaker 3: No, that's a great point, and again this is fresh

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Speaker 3: on my noodle. So the more I'm thinking about this,

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Speaker 3: I think I want to be a land In Roberts because,

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Speaker 3: as you mentioned earlier, we trust high Smith and Watt

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Speaker 3: to get to do the edge stuff themselves, or if

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Speaker 3: I can get Watson rolling out of the pocket. Either direction,

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Speaker 3: especially to his feet is probably advantageous, you know, considering

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Speaker 3: your edge advantages. But if I can bring an extra

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Speaker 3: guy through the a gaps, and I think Roberts is

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Speaker 3: really good at that. Plus he's more of the run

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Speaker 3: thumper anyway, right, you know, I mean against the chubb

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Speaker 3: and taking on guards and traditional stuff. Maybe he's the

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Speaker 3: guy for that job. Maybe not Loan, but I think

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Speaker 3: maybe he's the guy for that job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know I would attack.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I would not sit back and you say we're going

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Speaker 2: to get there with their four rush and Watton and

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Speaker 2: high Smith are better than their offensive tackles, which they are.

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Speaker 3: They are they are. That's your best advantage, that's your.

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Speaker 2: Biggest advantage on defense. I would do that and allow

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Speaker 2: Minka to kind of roam that middle.

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Speaker 3: He can kind of clean the middle up. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: if something does break down, you hope he's the last

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Speaker 3: layer of defense. I always call him the goalie. I

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Speaker 3: also wouldn't hate him walking down near the line scrimmage

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Speaker 3: once in a while too and being that blitzer. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: or maybe a defensive back blitz here.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I say the one time he did blitz last week,

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Speaker 2: he had a clean shot at brock Purty and kind

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Speaker 3: I feel like that that play happened one hundred times

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Speaker 3: he would got a sack ninety nine of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just it was that day. You know, it's just like

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Speaker 3: bad mojo across the board, like he flowed out look bad,

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Speaker 3: like he never looks bad, you know it athletically bad.

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Speaker 3: He looked weird in space and confused, and like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: this isn't their day. If Minca is going to look

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Speaker 3: that way, one play the free shot. But no, I

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Speaker 3: think that's a great point. Like if it means leaving

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Speaker 3: Porter Wallace, Peterson, whomever w on one on Amari and

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Speaker 3: Watson beats you with his arm and his processing, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I mean I think you need to hit him, and

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Speaker 3: you need the pressure him even more importantly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that has to happen here because Watson. Again,

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Speaker 2: it's only a seven game sample size, but it's a

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Speaker 2: seven game sample size.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a million years ago. But I wonder,

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Speaker 3: and the analytics weren't even good back then. How was

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Speaker 3: he under pressure with the Texans versus not. I mean

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Speaker 3: compared to the rest of the league. Just curious. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure it's not tremendous. He's not my homes of a

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Speaker 2: I want to get after him. I want to make him.

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Speaker 2: It goes back to you know what we talked about

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Speaker 2: earlier in the week. You know, maybe I play a

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Speaker 2: little bit of my Ravens type defense against these guys

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Speaker 3: Okay, extra hit on him, no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to do. You want to try to

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Speaker 2: run your quarterback?

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Speaker 3: Have that?

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Speaker 4: Have at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's not a big slide, run out

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Speaker 3: of bounced type of guy anyway. Yeah, I mean maybe

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Speaker 3: running bounce here and there. But I'm all for it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's take advantage of what they give you.

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Speaker 3: not saying anybody needs to sympathize with him one bit,

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Speaker 3: but if you can get in his head a little

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Speaker 3: in America is on him in Monday night football, and

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Speaker 3: you know, you get him thinking and make them see ghosts,

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Speaker 3: make them see ghosts, make them press and hurt them

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Speaker 3: a little bit. I mean, like hit him a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean put a big body on him. I'm all

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see if that's what the Steelers tend to

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Speaker 2: difference between this team and what Baltimore does with that.

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Speaker 2: You know, basically when the Steelers do that against the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: they allow the running backs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I always think of the Cam Newton McCaffrey game.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a lot of mesh. Should in the

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks reading Watt or high Smith or whatever. Should I

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Speaker 3: pull it? Or should I not? And the Steelers just

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Speaker 3: don't care. They're just gonna you're allowed.

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Speaker 2: To hit the quarterback because you're gonna do this RPO

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Speaker 2: stuff and do some of it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And McCaffrey or Dobbins or whoever had a long scan.

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Speaker 2: And they average five yards of carry and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: the running backs average five yards of carry. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: the quarterback through for one hundred and twenty.

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Speaker 3: Four yards and he's limping around and doesn't want to

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Speaker 3: quicker in the fourth quarter because things don't feel as good.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean there's the ramifications that aren't in

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Speaker 3: the statue. Yeah, that's a great call. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Conversely, looking at how the looking at how the Browns

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Speaker 2: defended Cincinnati, they were almost in a nickel, like almost

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Speaker 2: it was like ninety plus percent in that game. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't expect to steal. Steelers aren't going to play

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Speaker 2: a much eleven. No, yeah, they live in it.

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Speaker 3: However, the Browns didn't go to dime. I mean some

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Speaker 3: people dime against the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I want to when I want to run

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Speaker 2: the football, I want to get them in their nickel.

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Speaker 2: When I want to throw the football, I want them

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So that means guys like Washington catching pass, Hayward,

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Speaker 3: Hayward catching pass. Yeah, they're great ones doing all the above,

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Speaker 3: you know, without question. And I would think, especially because

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Speaker 3: you know, I would think Washington plays a lot of snaps.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna have to do that when you

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Speaker 2: know when it's when it's third and seven or third

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Speaker 3: Three receivers, Jabinson and Austin out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't want that to be my my

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Speaker 2: base offensive package in this game. I want to come

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Speaker 3: Now, hear you. And I wouldn't mind to your Hayward

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Speaker 3: point rotating those three tight ends or those two tight ends.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't even mind seeing at some points in this

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Speaker 2: game where Hayward's the only runner in the game. They

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Speaker 2: showed that, They showed that some in the preseason, because

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Speaker 2: I want to see what Cleveland does to combat that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not to the Watson level, because we

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Speaker 3: mentioned this during the week. The Cleveland they'll have five

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Speaker 3: to ten plays with no running back on the field.

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Speaker 3: But and Watson acts as the running back. But Pickett's

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Speaker 3: not a stiff either, you know, Like, even if you

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Speaker 3: went empty with Hayward as your only quote running back,

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean he can't do a quarterback draw.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think you can't have to do things

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Speaker 2: a little bit differently without Deontay Johnson in the lineup, just.

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Speaker 3: Like without Hayward in the line. I mean, what's conversation.

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Speaker 2: This is according to Pro Football Focus, so you take

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Speaker 2: this for what it's worth. According to them, Uh, the

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Speaker 2: forty nine Ers only played like six five dump sorry

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Speaker 2: five snaps of mand a man defense last week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where the Browns were the total opposite.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They played heavy man, heavy blitz against the Bengals. So

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Speaker 3: how do the Browns do that? You know, can they

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Speaker 3: do they mimic the Niners or do they mimic what

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Speaker 3: they did?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's interesting, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because and I think Johnson last week was the highest

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Speaker 2: receiver in the league against number one, number one. Now

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Speaker 2: you only he had three targets. Two of them were catches,

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Speaker 2: one of them including the one that he got hurt on.

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Speaker 2: But then you'll double whichever side Pickens is on.

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Speaker 2: The way, and that might be a situation that might

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Speaker 2: If you see general on the field some in those

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they throw their bodies around. They're gonna get

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Speaker 3: No, they're all built for speed.

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Speaker 2: why not do some of that stuff. We saw them

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Speaker 3: That's a good point. And even Hayward and Washington and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're going to try to maybe dictate

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Speaker 3: No, not at all. I'm stopping them. They didn't get

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Speaker 2: They didn't, you know, they they were. And some of

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Speaker 3: Do what you do. I mean, enough with the nonsense.

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Speaker 3: Just to be a physical, high volume, downhill running team

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Speaker 2: Do you want to play with any pace in this game?

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Speaker 3: Well, when you get the eleven on your side versus

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Speaker 3: Or wow, they should be a nickel. But they're in

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Speaker 3: I don't Frankly, I just don't know. Is Kenny to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be interesting to see as well. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: joined now by our esteemed guest here, the Lord of

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Speaker 2: Living in his fears, the Dean of doom and gloom.

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Speaker 2: That would be Bob Labriola, Editor of Steelers Digesteelers dot

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Speaker 2: Com team historian. Anything else that I missed you on that, Bob, No.

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Speaker 4: I like the gloom and doom and the living in

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Speaker 4: my fears thing.

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Speaker 2: All around swell guy, all around, swell guy, the Lord

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Speaker 2: of living in his fears. That's in his lordly manner.

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Speaker 3: What's the doom meter on right now? Labs? After that fiasco?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, if you want to look

447
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Speaker 4: at the statistics, it's a slaughter and at the bank

448
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Speaker 4: the Browns are coming off a win over the Bengals

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Speaker 4: and Steelers got smashed by the forty nine ers. So

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Speaker 4: any kind of league rankings or statistics or any of

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Speaker 4: that stuff it looks ugly. You put Cam Heyward on

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Speaker 4: i R today Uh, Deontay Johnson is not gonna play

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Speaker 4: and gloomy. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else

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Speaker 4: you could say about it. If you look at it

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Speaker 4: that way. Well, we'll see what happens on Monday night.

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Speaker 4: I think the Steelers are going to be a little

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Speaker 4: bit uh more button down in terms of what they

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Speaker 4: want to do, who they want to do with, do

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Speaker 4: it with. I mean, hopefully they play better, because if

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Speaker 4: you play like that, it really doesn't matter, nothing else

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Speaker 4: really matters.

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Speaker 3: Would you expect an early dedication to the running game

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Speaker 3: no matter what?

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Speaker 4: Uh, this is my opinion.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have a dedication to anything early that wasn't

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Speaker 4: working because I you know, saying we're going to run

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Speaker 4: the ball on them. You go three and out three

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Speaker 4: times in a row, you're gonna keep running it. I'm

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Speaker 4: not a complete die. So that's what I mean by

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Speaker 4: I'm not said when I'm saying, I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: be committed to anything early if it's not working at all.

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Speaker 2: Well, we were just talking in the previous segment about

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Speaker 2: just some some you know, you don't have Deontae Johnson

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Speaker 2: going into this game. That's not going to change. I

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Speaker 2: think you have to if you were the Steelers, look

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Speaker 2: at how you're going to attack this and say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we got to get our best eligibles on the field.

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Speaker 2: And and you know, whether that be playing more twelve

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Speaker 2: personnel and maybe using Connor Heyward in some situations or

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Speaker 2: or Darnell Washington in some situations. Uh, just try to

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Speaker 2: dictate to Cleveland what packages they put on the field,

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Speaker 2: because I think I think Cleveland's best package might be

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Speaker 2: its nickel, because the three corners are all pretty good. Uh,

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Speaker 2: and you know you're you're without your best receiver, right.

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Speaker 4: That would be a very valid approach. But you've got

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Speaker 4: to convert some shirt downs, right. I mean, Kenny Pikett

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Speaker 4: needs to be a much better version of himself. Pass

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Speaker 4: protection has to be much better. And I agree with

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Speaker 4: you deal, you've got to look with some maybe personal

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Speaker 4: groupings to combat their personal groupings. But that's gonna make plays.

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Speaker 4: They have to win match up. There are gonna be

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Speaker 4: times when Alvin Loaston or Alan Dickens gonna have to

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Speaker 4: line up on Denzel Ward to break through some and

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Speaker 4: win that matchup. Because you can scheme so much of it.

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Speaker 4: But I believe comes down to the guys on the field,

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Speaker 4: how they performed glad.

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Speaker 3: As you mentioned Kenny, and there's no way around it.

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Speaker 3: He played a very poor game. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: not to speak for you, but I have faith that

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Speaker 3: he will rebound. He's going to be a good NFL player,

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Speaker 3: a good starter, but you're not going to be good

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Speaker 3: teams with your quarterback playing at that level no matter

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Speaker 3: what I mean, whether it's Joe Burrow last week or

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Speaker 3: some Browns or Kenny versus nine Ers, I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: it's on. It's too up uphill of the climb.

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Speaker 4: Right Unlet's you hit one of those unbelievably freaking games

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Speaker 4: like last year's opening in Cincinnati. When you're defensive, scoring

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Speaker 4: touchdowns are just yeah, backing quarterbacks and taking the ball

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Speaker 4: away ridiculous numbers of time. That happens very very rarely.

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Speaker 4: But you are absolutely right about there's a there's kind

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Speaker 4: of a mendo the line or quarterback playing in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: and we were below it last week last Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I know everybody is quick to point point fingers at

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Speaker 2: Matt Canada again, and hey, I'm not here to defend him,

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Speaker 2: but when your quarterback plays like that, and missus open

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Speaker 2: receivers and and you know, basically couldn't hit a throw

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Speaker 2: early in that game, and then the next thing you do,

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Speaker 2: you look up and it's twenty to nothing.

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Speaker 3: I don't care, Bill Walsh, I mean, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Putting that on the offensive coordinator. How about defensively, Bill

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Speaker 2: Bob Without Cam Hayward out there, we saw t J.

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Speaker 2: Watt have a t J Watt game. If you would

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Speaker 2: have told me before that game started that Nick Bosa

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have a sack, but TJ. Watt had three and

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Speaker 2: two forced fumbles. I'm telling you right now that the

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Speaker 2: Steelers won the game.

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Speaker 4: Gotta start Nick Chubb, yeah, or at least a reasonable

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Speaker 4: fact cinemy of it, because if Mick Chubb controls the

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Speaker 4: game with his physical style of running, that, I mean,

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Speaker 4: that just creates too many problems for the Steelers and

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Speaker 4: creates too many opportunities for the Browns. You have a

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Speaker 4: situation where he did last Sunday, where the offense is

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Speaker 4: doing whatever it wants. And so you know, with with

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Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers, it was more about brock party

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Speaker 4: and how the kind of orchestrated things with the Browns,

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Speaker 4: that's handleballed in Nick Chubb and we're going to pound

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Speaker 4: you with it. And if that is allowed to be successful,

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Speaker 4: we'll get to the other things when we get to them,

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Speaker 4: and it'll probably be pretty successful.

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Speaker 3: Lives, I want to get back to the offense real quick.

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Speaker 3: Is just what's your impression where are you at right

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Speaker 3: now in the Steelers O line? I mean judging their

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Speaker 3: run blocking in that game? This is too small sample

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Speaker 3: size for me. I thought, Solamal, who had a rough game,

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Speaker 3: I expect that to change. Is it a plus?

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Are they an advantage or a disadvantage of the team

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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean there's no unit on that team that

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Speaker 4: if you look at the way they performed against the

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers, you were great. Your performances a plus?

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Speaker 4: So there mind after the everybody's gonna mind it. I

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Speaker 4: really don't know what you could possibly say was a plus.

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Speaker 4: I mean might if you did watch individual performance, but

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't label to pass Rester plus. Not over the

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Speaker 4: course of the whole game, run over the too many

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Speaker 4: situations were hurt. Party had time to do what you

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Speaker 4: need to do.

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Speaker 3: I guess the better question for me would have been

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Speaker 3: to do faith in this offensive line?

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Speaker 6: To be a plus if they don't have to play

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Speaker 6: the forty nine ers every week, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 6: that's not so much of this.

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Speaker 4: I think that what we're making a mistake doing right

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Speaker 4: now is looking at the Steelers as a versus a

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Speaker 4: standard player performance and are they better than that? Uh huh?

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Speaker 4: It's what are you? Who you playing that week? And

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Speaker 4: are you better than them that week? So can the

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Speaker 4: Steelers defensive line deal with the Browns and they're running attack?

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Speaker 4: Some guys are gonna have to play pretty good, and

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Speaker 4: they're gonna have to play as a group really well.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's gonna be in a gaps, you know, all those

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Speaker 4: cloth coaching cliches, and they're at the tackle. I think

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Speaker 4: that this team has some clent. I believe that. Again,

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Speaker 4: in the first game, the plan and the execution of it,

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Speaker 4: the preparation based on what we saw in the game

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Speaker 4: was all below the lines. Is that the way it's

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Speaker 4: going to be every week? I don't know. I didn't

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Speaker 4: think I saw that a training camp during the preseason. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna find out, though, Bob.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of the Steelers winning streak at

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Speaker 2: home on Monday Night football? Is? Is there something to

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Speaker 2: that or is it just.

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Speaker 4: Fluky fluky lucky uh? And I also think that this team,

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Speaker 4: the Steelers traditionally have gotten themselves up for event performances

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Speaker 4: as well. I'll refer to it Joe greens Jersey retirement,

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Speaker 4: you know, Ben's last game, all those kinds of events,

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Speaker 4: you know, the game where they memorialize the game where

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Speaker 4: they you know, that's frank O Harris's memorial kind of situation.

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Speaker 4: So the Steelers play well in those situations. Plus you know,

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Speaker 4: some luck. And I did kind of think that they

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Speaker 4: get up.

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Speaker 3: They like the lights so lab as you mentioned lack

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Speaker 3: of bright spots on Sunday and that's apparent obviously. One

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Speaker 3: I'm really excited about, though, is the rookie out of Wisconsin,

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Speaker 3: Keanu Benton. And nobody wants Cam Hayward not to be

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Speaker 3: on the field, of course, and I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 3: gonna Wally pip him or anything like that, but I

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Speaker 3: do think it opens the door for a very impressive

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Speaker 3: rookie to show that he's a long term answer possibly there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, and I think that in general,

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Speaker 4: the way the Steelers are looking at things, we made

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Speaker 4: some good moves over the office, drafted some nice free

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Speaker 4: agency additions, and so now we need them. This is

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Speaker 4: what we're gonna do. We're gonna develop these guys, prepare them,

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Speaker 4: and play them, and hopefully that you know, they become

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Speaker 4: what we're talking about and and what we thought they

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Speaker 4: were all through the process. They're not gonna go out

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Speaker 4: and try to sign somebody. I mean that fans they

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Speaker 4: go there all the time. As soon as something happened,

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Speaker 4: they want of those shops. So I don't think that

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Speaker 4: that's what they're gonna do. I don't think that that's

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Speaker 4: what they should supposed to do. And I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: Keanu benn is one of those guys that I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: be interested incying how he plays, uh, Prepare him for

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Speaker 4: a more complete role, practice him as he's going to

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Speaker 4: play a lot, and then let's see what we got.

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Speaker 2: Our guest is Bob Lariola, the editor of Steelers Digested

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Speaker 2: Steelers dot com. And of course, Bob, but one of

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Speaker 2: your big features that you do uh on Steelers dot

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Speaker 2: com is asked an answer. We're having our own little

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Speaker 2: asked and answered the party here right now. I can

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Speaker 2: only imagine what the asked and answer questions were like this,

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Speaker 2: how was the tone this week?

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Speaker 4: You next to me in the frail ball half time

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Speaker 4: to that game? I was getting them.

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Speaker 2: I was too busy listening to you muttering under your

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Speaker 2: breath the entire game.

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Speaker 4: I've seen some ugliness, but this is up there, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was a complete uh defeat, let me

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Speaker 4: use that word.

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Speaker 2: But what I've seen, the the things thrown around them,

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Speaker 2: we're Steelers defeat and home history and all the all

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Speaker 2: the like opener history and like you've covered game, you

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Speaker 2: covered fifty one nothing game. You covered the thirty seven

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Speaker 2: to seven game in ninety seven again, as did I

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Speaker 2: against the Cowboys. Like both of those teams rebounded and

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Speaker 2: made the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: You do get to play sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got more games after this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know there were some trips to Jacksonville too, the.

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Speaker 2: World absolutely, I mean it was you know how many

645
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Speaker 2: trips they made over the years and just getting crushed.

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Speaker 4: Steelers have been in business for more than ninety years,

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Speaker 4: so the worst when you talk about what is the worst,

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Speaker 4: there's probably a pretty good list you want to come

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Speaker 4: up with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because the first forty or so of those years

651
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Speaker 2: were not good, and then there was a lot of

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Speaker 2: good for the other.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, that's that's what makes the world go on.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back to the rookie class a little bit.

655
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Speaker 3: I mean, Joey Porter Junior played under ten snaps. It

656
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: was either nine or seven.

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Speaker 2: I forget whateven.

658
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Speaker 3: Seven. You don't think that's a reflection of their concerned

659
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: about him or he's not ready. I mean, I think

660
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Speaker 3: that was a little bit situational on who they play

661
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Speaker 3: and if the Browns are going to throw the ball

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Speaker 3: a little more, you know, more three receiver sets. I

663
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Speaker 3: think Porter's roll jumps up heavily this week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the last week was his first

665
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Speaker 4: game of his rookie season. They had a plan for him,

666
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Speaker 4: a package for him that they thought they were going

667
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Speaker 4: to get to. They never did, so he never he

668
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: didn't play. And I don't think though, you just throw

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Speaker 4: him in there without being able to play what you

670
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Speaker 4: prepared him for, as he practiced.

671
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Speaker 2: For so in there just to see what he can do.

672
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Speaker 4: God, I hate that. But this week, I firmly believe

673
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: that they'll prepare it differently, he'll practice differently, and he'll

674
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Speaker 4: play more. And I think He's pretty good in terms

675
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Speaker 4: of where he is at this point of what he is,

676
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Speaker 4: which is a rookie cornerback in the National Football League.

677
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Speaker 4: This is and I'm gonna say this one thing about

678
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Speaker 4: Joey Porter Jr. And I love him to death, but

679
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Speaker 4: they're gonna call him with the hand stuff quite crazy

680
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 4: early in this regular season. They're gonna call it whether

681
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Speaker 4: he does it or not. They're gonna call it whether

682
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Speaker 4: they see it or not. Uh, that's welcome to the NFL.

683
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Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I guess there's a question both you might

684
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Speaker 3: we see King sooner than later. I love that better.

685
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean at some point. I mean, you know,

686
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: it's he's a veteran, ye would Yeah, you signed him

687
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: for a reason, and he should be able to get

688
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 2: up to speed pretty quickly.

689
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: I would think I would think there's a chance he

690
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: plays this week, right.

691
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, So you know, I think it's it's gonna

692
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: be interesting to see how they reac act to these

693
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: two pretty major injuries that you know, but you know, yeah,

694
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: nobody's talking about I'm looking here at Houston or I'm sorry,

695
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: Cleveland's injury report today, Bob, and we already know they're

696
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: gonna be without their right tackle, Jack Conklin. They get

697
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: three defensive tackles that didn't practice today, including the starters.

698
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: So I mean it's not like they came out of

699
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: the last week's game unscathed.

700
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, But I don't think that. Then the

701
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 4: situations the Steelers are in with Heyward Deontay John.

702
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: No, that's different. Yeah.

703
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 4: I understand right, the caliber and who they are and

704
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Speaker 4: that they're out because when you look at the Browns

705
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: and injury report, they have the three veterans days off,

706
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: but Tonio, Amari, Coop Cooper and Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 3: Then there's an ester day. I'm sorry, Then there is

708
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: an extra day this week, right, and there's.

709
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Speaker 4: An extra day this week. Yeah, it's a good point

710
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 4: by you.

711
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Speaker 2: So, Bob, what's your what's your overall feeling heading into

712
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: this game? Are we feeling? Are we feeling like that

713
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: the Steelers are going to bounce back or are we

714
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: looking at this through a more negative lens?

715
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Speaker 4: Well, I think they're gonna play better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so good.

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a much more representative performance

718
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 4: top to bottom. Oh, whether that's good enough to win?

719
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Speaker 4: You know, Chris the Browns, they're not that bad. Like

720
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Speaker 4: I said, if you allow Nick Chubb to do his

721
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Speaker 4: thing and for them to do it do their thing

722
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 4: based on his thing, they could be tough to be

723
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: well that the.

724
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Speaker 3: More I think about this, it's it comes down exactly

725
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 3: to that. I mean, he's the best ball carrier in

726
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Speaker 3: the league in my opinion. And if Chubb goes off,

727
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: they're gonna get beat bad. If they contain them, they'll

728
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Speaker 3: be in it.

729
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Speaker 5: I love that they'll be be bad if they can't

730
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 5: contain him, but they will lose. Yeah, And then to me,

731
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Speaker 5: it really doesn't matter to the uh yeah, oh and

732
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 5: two would be I'm not gonna say it's a deal breaker,

733
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Speaker 5: a season ender or any of that kind of stuff,

734
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 5: but it's bad.

735
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly would be.

736
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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Bob Labriella has been our guest here from Steelers Dies

738
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: Steelers dot Com and of course a team historian. Bob's

739
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: going to be joining us on Thursdays throughout the throughout

740
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: the season, hopefully next week. Bob love a little more,

741
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: a little less dooming gloom, and you're maybe a little

742
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: more maybe be a little brighter. But we're going to

743
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Speaker 2: get to a break here. He is Matt Williamson. I

744
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745
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747
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755
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Speaker 2: trying to get through all that and you just.

756
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Speaker 3: Know what happens. Man.

757
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have the Steelers injury report here. He is

758
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lally.

759
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: So treat this like a Wednesday report.

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00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: This is more like the Wednesday report. So for the Steelers,

761
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: no surpriser. Deontae Johnson with the hamstring did not practice.

762
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: He will not play this week. Anthony McFarlane with a

763
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: knee did not practice. Yeah, Chucks, the corps fourth the

764
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: concussion was limited today. That's actually a step in the

765
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Speaker 2: right direction.

766
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Speaker 3: Step one, step one. That ball rolling.

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00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: Ye, James Daniels with an ankle, we didn't know what

768
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: that was, but that is he finished the game though, Yeah,

769
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: he finished the game. He was limited today. Pat Friarmouth

770
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Speaker 2: with the chest was limited today. Not surprising there, and

771
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Speaker 2: then Larry Oguin Joby with the foot was limited today.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean that's as good as you can hope for.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't know about Daniels or McFarlane until today,

774
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Speaker 3: but that doesn't sound like my hunches. It's a Wednesday

775
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: precautionary thing. Give him a little bit of a day

776
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Speaker 3: off and Chukes moving in the right direction, that's great.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine Dan Moore's taking snaps at left tackle,

778
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Speaker 3: not right. I don't know exactly how you'd handle that

779
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Speaker 3: as a coaching staff, you.

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00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, I think, I mean, somebody has to play right.

781
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Speaker 2: The idea is that is that you leave Dan Moore

782
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Speaker 2: if you know, if you think that Chukes a corps

783
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Speaker 2: for is going to play, you leave Dan Moore at

784
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Speaker 2: left tackle.

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Speaker 3: I would assume, Yeah, Wednesday, Thursday practice.

786
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Speaker 2: There's an opportunity to maybe to get Roderick Jones some

787
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: snaps at right tackle.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't mess with him, though, if he's only played

789
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Speaker 3: left I don't remember him taking any snaps of right camp.

790
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: He didn't. But if you're just trying to okay, just

791
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: let's see what he gives you a chance to see

792
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: what looks like.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you're you're making a beautiful painting there.

794
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Speaker 3: Don't go Bob ross in it and throw somebody funny

795
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Speaker 3: little bit well cook, I guess or Anderson for practice

796
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Speaker 3: at least until Jukes is ready.

797
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Speaker 2: But then I hear Jones isn't getting any you know,

798
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Speaker 2: he's and then he's sitting around.

799
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Speaker 4: But I hear.

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Speaker 2: On the brown side of things, this is worthy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: As Bob mentioned, there were three guys who did not

802
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Speaker 2: play early in the game or did not participate in

803
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Speaker 2: practice because non injury related stuff. That was Joel Botonio,

804
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Speaker 2: Amari Cooper, Miles Garrett, Miles Garrett already getting the vet

805
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Speaker 2: veteran stuff. Yeah, TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt, I assume you just think he's important.

807
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: I guess. Uh, here's where it gets interesting for them.

808
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: Defensive tackle Shelby Harris did not participate in practice. He's

809
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Speaker 2: got an Achilles's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Bob said. He's not Cam Hayward, right.

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Speaker 2: H Maury's Hurst one of their other defensive tackles with

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Speaker 2: the hamstring did not practice, and then h Siakika. There

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00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: are rookie defensive tackle they drafted their Is he their

814
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Speaker 2: first draft pick?

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Speaker 3: No? Their first pick was Tillman.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Uh, he did not practice because of a

817
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: foot issue. There's a lot of weight on that foot.

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00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: They did sign a defensive tackle earlier this week, so there.

819
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Speaker 2: It tells me they're preparing to be without at least

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Speaker 2: one of those guys and maybe multiple.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Juan Thornhill one of their big off season additions at

823
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Speaker 2: the safety position. He did not practice because of a

824
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Speaker 2: calf injury.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Then you got linebacker. Was Walker's first name, Anthony Anthony Walker.

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Speaker 2: He did not practice for a non injury related issue.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that would be.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And then of course I think he was hurt last

831
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Speaker 2: year year this one. Jedrick Willis, their left tackle with

832
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Speaker 2: a foot issue, was limited.

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Speaker 3: Wow, so he would be replaced by Hudson. Hudson, who

834
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Speaker 3: they use as a sixth guy. Kind of liked them

835
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Speaker 3: coming out of Cincinnati. But he's never really wall good athlete,

836
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: not real power player. But Will's is not a great

837
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: player on his own right. And if what was his injury,

838
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 3: if he's a little slow moving out of his stance

839
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Speaker 3: or changing directions, I mean, he doesn't have a lot

840
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: of room for error in that necessarily. I don't get

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00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: back to the d tackles though, I mean to me,

842
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: that's the story is Again, they have an extra day

843
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 3: to heel and all that. But if you activated one,

844
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: teams tell you, yeah, Tomlinson's their best defensive tackle. They're

845
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: not going to kick Zadarias Smith down on a regular.

846
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Speaker 2: Basis their base.

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Speaker 3: That's a package thing.

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Speaker 4: You know.

849
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Speaker 2: What we talked about it. I want those guys on

850
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Speaker 2: the field if there are if any of those guys play,

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00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: Shelby Harris plays with the sore achilles, all right, I

852
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: want him on the field.

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00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, So Tomlinson, I'd have to study it. Would

854
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: he be on? Is he out there? And Nickel I'm

855
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: sure he would be now with injuries has Yeah, we

856
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: think he has to be Ideally, probably wouldn't be, but

857
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: he gave him a of money and he's okay. But

858
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 3: definitely your third corner is way better than these guys

859
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: were talking about as second defensive tackles. So I hear you.

860
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 3: I mean I think more often than not, I'm really

861
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: warming up to the idea and it sounds like you're

862
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: already there. You know I'm there, baby, Yeah, I mean

863
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 3: just big offensive personnel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just looking here. So that would that would

865
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Speaker 2: leave them with Dalvin Tomlinson and Jordan Elliott are really

866
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Speaker 2: the only two healthy defensive tackles on there. They only

867
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Speaker 2: have five.

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Speaker 3: Elliott hasn't made a splash in the league yet either,

869
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 3: Like he's listed as the starter.

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Speaker 2: The other three guys that we just mentioned are all

871
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: listed as backups. I'm not sure they would be backups

872
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 2: if they're not hurt right now.

873
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: Harris has been around the block. He's a decent player,

874
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 3: where Elliott hasn't done much of anything to this point.

875
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: Tomlinson's their best guy, and then there's a bunch of

876
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 3: piecing things together. But if you're without a couple of

877
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: those pieces. Did you know the name of who they

878
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: called up or whatever? Doubt it matters. I mean, he's

879
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: worse than those dudes obviously, right, I can't remember who

880
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: who would whoever it is is probably.

881
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: The Browns are that's from when they signed Shelby Harris.

882
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 3: Then Shelby Harris hasn't been with them super long either.

883
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's they signed him August tenth, where he's hurst.

884
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: That was one year. That was on March fifteenth.

885
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: I'm not nobody do.

886
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: Apparently it's not anybody that is because somebody else their practicing. Yeah,

887
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: I just Google, like, Okay, you're gonna sign a practice

888
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: squad defensive tackle and bring him up like he's not

889
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: he's so new, he's not even on this. I'll bet

890
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: our lads has him.

891
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet they do. And frankly, from what I've understood,

892
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: they're not real thrilled with Eca either. I mean, he's

893
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: a big, power, slow footed, nose type guy that's, you know,

894
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: taller than the Casey Hampton's and Will Forks of the world.

895
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: But I'm almost certain he was inactive. Maybe that was

896
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: also somewhat injury related, but he's not. If he if

897
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: he's one of the starters, I think you're happy about it.

898
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: Maybe they signed one to their practice squad now because

899
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: he's not listening on our lads either. On their depth

900
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: chart they got they have five defensive tackles on their

901
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: depth chart here and three of them. Three of them

902
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 2: did not practice today.

903
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 3: Okay, well, let's definitely monitor that tomorrow because tomorrow is

904
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: a real telling time for this week.

905
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely so again, if I if I can keep

906
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: them in that base package and force those guys to play.

907
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even on third and three, third and four.

908
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 3: And it doesn't mean you can't be out the big

909
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 3: Washington and Friarmooth and you know Hayward or any of.

910
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: Those guys, stay big and lean on those guys because

911
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: I just you know, Dalvin Tomlins is one guy you

912
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: can double him. Yeah, and he's not in the run

913
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: game and player move him out of there.

914
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. He's a good player. He's not a super sorry

915
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: he's not. He's more of a pocket pusher than a

916
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: pass rusher. I thought they overpaid for him, but it

917
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: was a huge need and he makes them better.

918
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely So We'll see how it goes here and

919
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: we continues to go on, but that's gonna do it

920
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: for our number one here on the drive, we'd like

921
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Speaker 2: to thank Bob Labriola for stopping by. We'll be back

922
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: with our number two on the drive right after this

923
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Speaker 2: will kick off. Kick things off here with a little

924
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: face nay football focus when we come back. He is

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00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,480
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