1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: As training camp wraps up, it's clear and clear to 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: everyone locally sure, but nationally especially, pieces are in place 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: to have a successful season. God Zach Gershman with me 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: Bert Gang one last time from Cards Camp and what 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: a way to finish NFL Networks. Ian Rapaport joins the show. 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: We'll get his thoughts on Bonnie and JG going into 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: your three Kyler going into year seven, the edition of 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Josh Wett plus where Ian sees the Cardinals place within 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: the NFC West. Also, we give you our big takeaways 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: after two weeks here at State Farm Stadium. It's Cardinals 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode nine to twelve, and it starts now. 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: Buda Baker, what heart one rent? This guy's unbelievable. 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azy 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: Cardinals dot com slash podcast. 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: He said, a ten half of five pays it again 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: some more hurry magic. Whow here's Craig Graeler and that's 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: a wrap. Twelve practices, ten of them opened, five of 20 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: them and heads. We made it, Zach, We made it 21 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: through another Cards camp and. 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 3: This is when the round of applause sound effect that 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 3: I just did by myself comes into play. 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: That was decent. Okay, look we've we've made it. 25 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: I know Johnathan again and he jokingly talked about in 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: his opening press conference on Thursday, I believe that is today. Yeah, 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: today is Thursday. All the days track of days, with 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: all the days mushed together. Uh, he said, Hey, training 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: camp's not over. It's just over here at State Farm Stadium. 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 3: So kudos to the Bird gang. As we spoke about 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: on a previous episode of Cardinals Cover or two about 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: you know, being in attendance, they were out in full force, 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: which was definitely awesome to see. But also kudos to 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: this Cardinals team because they you could see the improvement 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: that Johnathangannon discussed early on during the training camp process. 36 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: JG sided the team. At least he believes the team 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: is closer than when they started at training camp. The 38 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: competition has ramped up. They're competing talking about the players 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: at a high level. Roles are beginning to be defined, 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: and then he added, we stayed fairly healthy. 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: Now. 42 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: The big injury was Darling Thomas, losing him for the season. 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: With the knee injury, which is unfortunate the other and 44 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: you want to talk about it now or you want 45 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: to wait until after night. Let's because the news of 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: the day at least roster wise, and there's a lot 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: of excitement. But Will Hernandez is back something that had 48 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: been discussed, talked about, debated the fact that his number 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: seventy six was not issued to another player. Will is 50 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: back back wearing number seventy six side a one year 51 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: deal placed on the active physically unable to perform list, 52 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: And it's simple, Bird Gang. Yes he's cleared from his 53 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: acal surgery, but now he needs to get into playing 54 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: shape and how long that takes No one seems. 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: To which are two totally different sort of recovery processes 56 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: and two different sort of practices because they're rehabbing on 57 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: your knee is very different than getting ready to go 58 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: up across from Dalvin Tomlinson are getting ready to face 59 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: off against Koalas Campbell. So Will Hernandez is gonna need 60 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: to get back into football shape. And yes he is cleared, 61 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: but they're gonna put him on the active pupp list 62 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: to start off to his duration in his second stint. 63 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: Now at the Arizona Cardinals. But look, it's definitely very exciting. 64 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 3: It's a decision that both Jonathan Gannon and Will Hernandez 65 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: have been in discussions about. And I could say this, 66 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: Will Hernandez has been a round the valley. He has 67 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: not left. I've seen him in Scottsdale Fashion Square Mall. 68 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: He's been around. And you also still see the connection 69 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: that he has with the guys because Paris Johnson Junior 70 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: is doing his press conference and he's wearing a Will 71 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: Hernandez brand shirt MIHO things. So it's definitely exciting that 72 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: Will is back. And again though John Degannon confirmed one 73 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: thing that I think we all knew that we all 74 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: knew was going to be the case if Will came back. 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: Isaiah Adams is your starter. And yes, it is exciting 76 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: that you have that depth piece when Will Hernandez is healthy. 77 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: But it is Isaiah Adams's job. It was his job 78 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: to lose heading into training camp, he solidified that with 79 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: Will Hernandez now being back in the building, it is 80 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: still his job to lose. 81 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: Will hurt his knee back in Week five in San 82 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: Francisco and that derailed a season in which again the 83 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: previous year, he had started all seventeen games, and as 84 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: JG described him, mean and nasty. And I think the 85 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: rest of the offensive line and the rest of the 86 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: offense takes on that identity because as nice of a 87 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: person Will Is off the field, between the white lines 88 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: sees a much different player, And I think everyone likes that. 89 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: You want that physicality, you want that nastiness along the 90 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: offensive line. But you brought up what JG said, Isaiah 91 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: Adams is your starting right guardan Brown as you're starting 92 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: left guard. So right now, will one get into shape 93 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: playing shape and then compete with a Royce Newman, Jake Kerhan, 94 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: Nick Leverett, Hayden Connor to be that third guard or 95 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: fourth guard. However, many reserve offensive line and this team 96 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: decides to keep. But right now it's will Is on 97 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: the outside looking at. 98 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: Can we go back in time and just think about 99 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: if Will Hernandez was healthy and just start to I 100 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: know John Agaanna doesn't like hypotheticals, but with the more 101 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: friction that JG discussed, you saw that mean streak in 102 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: between the white lines, as you alluded to plenty of 103 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: times in previous training camps. Now with back to back 104 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 3: days and pads on. I would have loved to have 105 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: seen what would have came out of that if Will 106 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: Hernandez was healthy. But at the end of the day, 107 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 3: this is a decision I think is a good decision 108 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: for the organization. Maybe not right now on August seventh, 109 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: you're going to understand the impact of it, but down 110 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 3: the line, as JG said, when Will Hernandez was in 111 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: the room, the guys list to him. He's a big guys. 112 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: He's still a player that the guys love to rally 113 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 3: around and love to be with. When he went down 114 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: with his injury, that room was devastated because he was 115 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: a core part of it. But when he's going to 116 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: be back in the room, I think that that's going 117 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: to be something that can still be beneficial for Isaiah 118 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: Adams because with him being a starter now he still 119 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: has Will Hernandez in his corner just like he did 120 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: last year. Now they're going to be competing, but he 121 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: still has him in his corner, and that's something that's exciting. 122 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: I will say, though we could go back to after 123 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: free agency, it seemed like this was still something that 124 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 3: was destined because you will get the numbers and whose 125 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: number was never taken in the offseason, and it was 126 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 3: number seventy six Will Hernandez Kaizer White's number seven went 127 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: to Jacoby Brissett. All the different guys had their numbers filled, 128 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: Will Hernandez was the one that was not filled. So 129 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: it seems like it was destined to be. 130 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: The resigning makes the Arizona Cardinals a better team right 131 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: now on paper. Now on the field, we'll have to 132 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: wait and see again. We'll has to get into playing 133 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: shape and that is why he is starting on the 134 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: active pup list. But he is back in the building 135 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: and hopefully sooner rather than later, we'll get a chance 136 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: to hear from the man himself and be good to 137 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: have him back in the building, back in that old 138 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: line room. All right, speaking of things that have made 139 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals better, how about we make this Cardinals 140 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: cover two better. As I mentioned off the top, Ian 141 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: Rappaport NFL Network, Very fortunate that you and Isaac we 142 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to speak with Ian while the NFL 143 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: Network and their Inside training camp was being broadcast on Wednesday. 144 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: Ian gave us some time. Very appreciative of that. Right now, 145 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: how about we hear from the NFL Networks lead newsbreaker 146 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: Ian rapaport here on Cardinals Cover two. So your final 147 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: stop on what has probably been multiple stops. How many stops? 148 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: How many different cities have you been to? 149 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 4: I actually haven't counted. I think it's fifteen teams in 150 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 4: fourteen days, but I might be sixteen. I'm not sure. 151 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 4: I don't really want to count, because what's the point. 152 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 4: But it's been fun. I mean it's you know, I've 153 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 4: done laundry and weird places. I've eaten a lot of 154 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: airport meals. I've met a lot of really, really good people. 155 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 4: I've seen some really good football teams and a couple 156 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: not so good. It's one of my favorite things that 157 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: we do. But yet it has now come to an end, 158 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: and I'm looking forward to being home. 159 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: So you come to Arizona to see the Cardinals. What 160 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: do you hope to learn coming out of this? Based 161 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: off what this team has done in the offseason free agency, 162 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: the drafts, and the new pieces, the new faces they've added. 163 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a couple of things. 164 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: For me. 165 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 4: I'm not really looking to learn anything because nobody knows anything, right. 166 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 4: What I'm looking to do is a couple of things. 167 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 4: Familiarize myself with the team and I think this is 168 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: going to be a good team this year. Familiarize myself 169 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: with the team, Remind myself all the deals that happened 170 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: in the offseason, who they brought in, who are some 171 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: of the new faith, and just leave here with an 172 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: understanding of like what direction it's going right? Like I 173 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 4: was just in in Las Vegas, and I feel like 174 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 4: I got a really good feel from talking to older people, 175 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: like what that's been, like what the addition of Pete 176 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: Carroll has been, Like how they're rolling right. And that's 177 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: kind of what I want to get out of this. 178 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: And then you know, the other thing for me is 179 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: the Cardinals have a couple of really good young coaches 180 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: who are really well respected, and you know, a couple 181 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 4: of guys who who might be head coaches and Drew 182 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 4: pett Saying and Nick Ralis, and so I'd like to 183 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: talk to them, and I've done it before, I've met 184 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 4: them each several times. But you know, more information is 185 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 4: better as as you again understand why this team is 186 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 4: going to be where I think they're going to be, 187 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 4: and you know, if those guys end up as head 188 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: coaching candidates, I cover a lot of that, so you 189 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 4: want to be able to explain to people who they are. 190 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: You mentioned the off season acquisitions and refamiliarizing yourself with them. 191 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: The biggest off season moving for the Cardinals, at least 192 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: on paper, is Josh Sweat in his addition to the 193 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: to the outside linebackers room. Why do you think he 194 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: could fit well or do you think he could fit 195 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: well here with John Agannon and Nick Rows knowing their 196 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: familiarity from their time in Philadelphia, you know. 197 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: There are plenty of ways to make mistakes in free agency, 198 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: and I think the best way is to spend a 199 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 4: lot of money on a player who's not quite good 200 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: enough and put him in a system that he's not 201 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: quite familiar with. The best way to be successful is 202 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 4: to take a guy you know very well and put 203 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: him in a system that he knows very well and 204 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: paying what he's worth. I don't think it's I mean, 205 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: everyone overspends a free agent, but I thought it was good. 206 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 4: I don't think it was crazy like some of the 207 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 4: other deals. Maybe to me, this is an easy one 208 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 4: because it's not a projection, right, like if you take 209 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 4: someone who's been a backup for their career, and played 210 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: a couple of games, you say, this is now my starter, right, Like, 211 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 4: let's say that the Chiefs did that for their left 212 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 4: tackle Jalen Moore, who's actually because they drafted Josh Simmons, 213 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 4: He's not going to start it tackle. But it doesn't matter, 214 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 4: like that was kind of the plan. That's a risk, 215 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 4: and you don't know. I don't view Josh Wet as 216 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 4: a risk at all. I think he's really good. I 217 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: think he's somehow gotten better each year. That's what it 218 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 4: feels like to me, And I thought this was kind 219 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: of a no brainer honestly. 220 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: Offensively, they are basically running it back as far as 221 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: personnel wise, and it starts. Everyone talks about it nationally. 222 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: It's a big story locally. It certainly is with Kyler 223 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: Murray and Marvin Harrison junior. But when you see an 224 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: offense not add much, basically, it's some depth. I mean, 225 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: to me, the biggest offseason move of the offseason offensively 226 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: was Jacoby Brissett, someone we hope to never see this 227 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: year because Kyler's playing all seventeen games. But where do 228 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: you see the next step for this offense? In particular, 229 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: because there's so much attention on the quarterback. 230 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: Right, And I mean, and that's okay, and that's good. 231 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 4: And you know, the reason you have a guy like Kyler, 232 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 4: the reason you spend the money, which the Cardinals did, 233 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: or you spend the capitol at draft pick, which the 234 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 4: Cardinals did, is because you know when a team is 235 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 4: read and I feel like, and I'll learn a little 236 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: more as I kind of get through this visit, but 237 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 4: I feel like this team is ready to win. 238 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: I really do. 239 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 4: I feel like personnel wise, they are kind of where 240 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 4: Monte Austin Ford hoped they would be. I think this 241 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 4: is a team ready to win, and so what you 242 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: need is the quarterback to take you there. I'm a 243 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: Kyler fan. You know, there's not a lot of guys 244 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 4: like him, and he's such a challenge to defend that 245 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: you can sort of see why he presents the problems 246 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 4: that he does. 247 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: But he's got to. 248 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: Take you there. Like, if this team is going to 249 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 4: get to the playoffs, and I think the roster is 250 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 4: good enough to do it, he needs to take them there. 251 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 4: So you ask, like, what's you know, what's sort of 252 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 4: the next iteration of this offense. It's for Kyler to 253 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 4: take the next step and take this team where it 254 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 4: should go. 255 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: And he probably needs to continue that connection and grow 256 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: it further with Marvin Harrison Junior. I know a lot 257 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: was made of Marvin's first season eight hundred and eighty 258 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: five yard sixty two receptions, eight touchdowns, which is the 259 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: rookie franchise record, Yet it still seemed like it might 260 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: have been a little bit underwhelming. Feels like that, what 261 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: were your takes on last season? Because some people, I 262 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: get it, the rookie CLASSI wide receiver was very good, 263 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: so maybe Marvin fell a little bit down the ladder 264 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 3: in that regard, But what were your takes on his 265 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: last season? 266 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, compare him to you know, 267 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: Mileague Neighbors or you know, any of the other really 268 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: good young receivers, and it's like, well, you know, maybe 269 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 4: he wasn't as productive. I So I think he's really good. 270 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 4: I think his obviously bloodlines are really good. He seems 271 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 4: to have worked incredibly hard in the off season. I 272 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 4: am not a huge fan of judging everything after the 273 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: first year because we went not years, but really decades 274 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: of not expecting rookie receivers to contribute it all, and 275 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: then you get guys like Jamar Chase who kind of 276 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 4: screws it up for everyone because he's so good right 277 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 4: off the bat. And that's not normal, right, It's really not. 278 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: Now you know, there's a couple others, but it's not normal. 279 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: It's a very hard position, you know, and even for him, 280 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 4: like you know, he's not the fastest guy on earth. 281 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: He's not a burner. And there's gonna be time when 282 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 4: maybe you say, like, is he open and you need 283 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: a quarterback to be like, all right, this is Marvin Harrison. 284 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: He's always open. Like there's things like that. You know, 285 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 4: that trust about report, that trust needs. 286 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: To be built. 287 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: I think it's he's gonna have a good year. I 288 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 4: don't know where the ceiling is, but to me, it 289 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 4: should be better than last year. And you know, I 290 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: think you're going to see that pick up a little bit. 291 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: You said this team is ready to win, which is 292 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: great to hear. We all believe that as well. If 293 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: this team does win and takes that next step. You 294 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: brought up two young coordinators in Nick Rollis and Drew Petsing. 295 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: It's a good problem to have to lose coaches to 296 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: the next step. Yeah, but what in your talks with 297 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: people around the league. What has set Drew and Nick 298 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: apart from maybe or put them has elevated their names 299 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: to maybe some of the top of those head coaching lists. 300 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think if the Cardinals win, I 301 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 4: think both those guys would get looks. Nick Ralis is young, 302 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: but JG has done a really nice job of being 303 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 4: like this is the guy when you ask him about 304 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 4: defensive innovation, it's more like, well that's Rales, you know. 305 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: And you don't hear that a lot because usually guys 306 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 4: are like, let me hold on to my dudes, like 307 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 4: I don't want them to leave. But I think you 308 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 4: know from where Gannon comes from, the people he's been with, 309 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: Like he's been in some places where they say, like 310 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: losing coaches to promotions is good. It's not bad. It's good. 311 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: First of all forces you to reinvent yourself. Second of all, 312 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: forces you to do interviews, learn about yourself, get information 313 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 4: and hire someone new or hire someone good or both. 314 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 4: And so like, I think all this is good. So 315 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 4: Ralis is an interesting name. You know, he got this 316 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 4: this job in a way that I think a lot 317 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: of people are like, he's way too young. Turns out 318 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: he's not too young. He's very good. And you know, 319 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: and I think Drew Pettsing is similar. You know, I 320 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: would say, you know where the Cardinals are, like, I don't. 321 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 4: I don't know who would be the next if Drew 322 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: Petsing ends up getting a job. But it's a really 323 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 4: good pass game coordinator. And there's a really good quarterbacks 324 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: coach who I think would be probably in the mix there. 325 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 4: But these are really good problems happening. Because you're talking 326 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 4: about these guys being head coach candidates, then it means 327 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 4: the Cardinals probably went to the playoffs well. 328 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: To kind of expand on that, because when Nick Rowles 329 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: came in, it was his age that was the number 330 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: one storyline. And still, I mean, you bring in handful 331 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: of players Kalas Campbell exactly. Kalais Campbell is, you know, 332 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: a decade older than his defensive line coach. Have you 333 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: that's fair? Have you learned? Have you learned what the 334 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: benefits are of having such a young coaching staff? What 335 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: are they What ways do they do they stand out? 336 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: Because it seems like the guys relate a little bit 337 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: more to their coaches. They seem to rally around them 338 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: a little bit more. 339 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: Now, I've thought about this a lot, and I don't 340 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: really know that it matters because there's a couple of 341 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 4: old dudes who are like cool guys who players like. 342 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 4: I think it's more just like can you engage them? 343 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: I mean, Nick Ralis happens to be young, Drew Petson 344 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 4: happens to be young. I think there's you know, but 345 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 4: the Cardinals have had success with an older coaching staff, 346 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 4: and ba's coaching staff was pretty old. So I just 347 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 4: think it's like, fine, really smart guys who engage the players, like, yes, 348 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 4: like you know, they're definitely players who probably think Rales 349 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 4: is cool. But I think if you're an old dude 350 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 4: and puts him in a position to win each rep, like, 351 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: that's probably just as good. I just think the more 352 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 4: thing to me is like, because he's so young, don't 353 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 4: overlook him, be like we doesn't have the experience, Like 354 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 4: sometimes the best way to have experience is to do it. 355 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: So I just I liked the higher because he was 356 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: clearly the best guy, regardless off I young. 357 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: He was within the NFC West, and there's question marks 358 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles with Matthew Stafford. When we speak here, 359 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: this Wednesday. You report earlier on Wednesday about his back 360 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: and what the next step for him. How do you 361 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: see this division right now? You mentioned earlier that no 362 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: one knows anything, but do you have a feeling or 363 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: a sense on how this division could shake out? 364 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: You know, I would say for Stafford first, I think 365 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 4: he is going to be okay. I really do. I 366 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 4: think he's gonna be okay. I believe that his his 367 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 4: aggravated disc is something that they can overcome and have 368 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: been managing. And the way you do it is your 369 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: strengthen the area around it. Right he's thirty seven, you know, 370 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: I'm forty five and my back hurts all the time, 371 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 4: So I get it. But I think he's going to 372 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 4: be fine. If he's fine, that team is really good. 373 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 4: I think that team is really good. I saw him 374 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 4: yesterday we're talking Wednesday, saw him on Tuesday against the 375 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 4: Cowboys and joint practice. I think they're really good. I 376 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 4: just I mean other than that, though, like I really 377 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: it feels pretty open to me, and like talk about 378 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 4: the Cardinals, like, I don't you look at the roster, 379 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 4: look at the level the coaching, the infrastructure. To me, 380 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 4: the Cardinals should be able to play with those guys. 381 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 4: That is what I think. 382 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: So in your eyes, a successful season is is it 383 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: postseason or bust for this team? 384 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: Do you think I. 385 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: Don't know what bust is because you know you can 386 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: win ten games and I'll make the postseasons like, well 387 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: that did that season? Was that a failure? It's like, well, 388 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 4: I don't know, sort of, but not really. I'm just 389 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 4: saying I think this is the team that Monte Austin for. 390 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 4: It has been trying to build and I think Cardinals 391 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 4: fanship probably be pretty excited about it. 392 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: It's a good way to wrap up this interview. You've 393 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: been very gracious with your time. We know you've got 394 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: a busy day ahead here on this Wednesday, but appreciate it. 395 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: And I'll just say personally, I enjoy the insiders and 396 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: now Zach. We have had two of the three on cartoon. 397 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: We had Tom Pellisero come in yesterday last year. 398 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 4: Hair's doing having a rough time for Tray to get it. 399 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 4: Otherwise he's a good guy. 400 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. 401 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: In thanks guys. 402 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: Again, can't thank Ian enough for joining us. I know 403 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: his time is limited, especially when you're bouncing from one 404 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: team to another and one city to another. He mentioned 405 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: us to us off are he had a red eye 406 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: flight leaving Arizona to head back to New York as 407 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: Inside Training Camp wrapped up its coverage on Wednesday from 408 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: the number of different cities from around the thirty two 409 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: NFL teams. But always good to get that outside perspective, 410 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: the national perspective, and validate a lot of what we 411 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: feel about this Arizona Cardinals team in twenty twenty. 412 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 3: Five when we had Tom pelsarrow on last year in 413 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 3: the training camp portion, Tom was not shy to say 414 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: that this could be a team that's better, but they're 415 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: not gonna be going anywhere further. As he described it 416 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, it's these insiders don't get paid 417 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: to sugarcoat the truth. They get paid to be honest 418 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 3: about things. And there's a reason why they get paid 419 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 3: as much as they do. And we got to see 420 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: it in full force because even while we were interviewing Ian, 421 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: his phone was going off, that Apple Watch was buzzing, 422 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 3: everything was going on. So there's a reason why these 423 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 3: guys are in the position. But for him to say 424 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: that the Cardinals aren't ready to win, they're in a 425 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: position to win it's exciting, it's encouraging. He's gone on 426 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: to so many different stops. We talked to him, we 427 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 3: were breaking down the schedule. He said, We told him 428 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 3: about the joint practices in Denver, and he goes, Denver's 429 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: a good team. That's gonna be a good test for 430 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: this Arizona Cardinals roster. But it is definitely encouraging to 431 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 3: hear from a guy like Ian Rappaport. To hear from 432 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: Raps about how this team has improved, the additions that 433 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 3: they have made. It's exciting, it's exciting, and to get 434 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 3: that respect on a national levels definitely I think validating 435 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: for john to gain in Manti Austin Ford. 436 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: It's been a three year process for Monti Austin Fort 437 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: to get the roster to where he believes it needs 438 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: to be and to give the talent to Jonathan Gannon. 439 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: Now it's the owners is on the players themselves. We 440 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: brought you in here for a reason. Now go perform, 441 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: and we'll start to begin to see that on Saturday 442 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: in the preseason opener against the Kansas City Chiefs, which 443 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: kind of officially quote unquote ends training camp here at State 444 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium, and before we get to Saturday. Any questions 445 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: that you got answered over these last couple of weeks 446 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: or top observations takeaways from what was As I mentioned 447 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: twelve training camp practices. 448 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 3: We can I flip this back to you. What questions 449 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 3: do we still have that are unanswered? 450 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: The biggest question going in I'll give you two, which 451 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: because and I wrote them down. The two biggest questions. 452 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: One was, all right, who's the quarterback of the defense? 453 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: Who's calling the defense? And we got that I think 454 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: day one or day two. Mac Wilson Senior said, no, 455 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm the Mike linebacker. I got the green dot. 456 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: I'll be relaying the signals from Nick Rowlis to the 457 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: rest of the team. And the question mark I had 458 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: on offense was right guard. Yeah and yeah, Will Hernanez 459 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: is back in the building. But Isaiah Adams has had 460 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: a tremendous training camp, maybe arguably the best training camp 461 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: of anyone as far as players that you wanted to 462 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: see take that step that year one to year two 463 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: jump and really solidify what I had in pencil writing 464 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: in his name at right guard. Now for me, it's 465 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: firmly in ink and permanent marker until you see otherwise 466 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: because he has stood up well in the one on 467 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: one drills against defensive lineman and has held his own 468 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: overall in eleven on eleven. 469 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 3: And I think that's my point. The questions that we 470 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: had we had entering training camp, we've all had answered. 471 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: We don't go into this preseason game against the Kansas 472 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: City Chase with more questions than answers. 473 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: We don't come. 474 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 3: We go into it with more of a it's less 475 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: of a prediction and more of like as you said, 476 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 3: less and pencil more and pen a lot more in 477 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 3: in because you got to pick up on so many things. 478 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: The questions I still have are gonna be what are 479 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: you doing with the back end of the defensive line room, 480 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: what are you doing with your you know, fourth and 481 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: fifth wide receivers who are going to fill those roles? 482 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: I think the biggest takeaways I've had in terms of 483 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 3: questions that were answered, definitely the two that you mentioned. 484 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 3: Seeing what happened at cornerback with Starlink Thomas obviously he 485 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: goes out, so now you have more of an idea 486 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 3: of what Will Johnson's role is going to be with that, 487 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: with that stacked defensive room, those are the things that 488 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: that I'm gonna be uh looking at in terms of 489 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: when you're looking at the roster configuration, how that's gonna look. 490 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: But we've seen a lot so far. We've seen that 491 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: Jonah Williams has been healthy enough to participate in eleven 492 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: on eleven's that's crucial. You've seen Josh sweat out there 493 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: with this team. He's still being a leader. You still 494 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: see that Buddha Baker is the guy on defense, and 495 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: he's still the heartbeat. So I go into this with 496 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 3: a lot less questions. The biggest question I have going 497 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: into Saturday is who's going to stand out when you're 498 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: going up against another team. And I'm very excited to 499 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: see will Johnson there on the outside when they're gonna 500 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: be in nickel packages and they slide Garrett Williams from 501 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: the outside, move him to the inside, and being that 502 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 3: nickel cornerback, I'm excited to see him lining up with 503 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes on the other side. The Chiefs wide receiver 504 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: corps is not healthy right now, so that's not how 505 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 3: it's gonna look for Week one for the Kansas State Chiefs. 506 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: But Patrick Mahomes is the best of the best of 507 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon said, so he's gonna. I'm excited to see 508 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: how the rookie performs. 509 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: In terms of questions, I think the biggest questions got 510 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: answered into your point. Now, the questions are, okay, the 511 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: rest of the fifty three man roster, filling it out exactly, 512 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: your second team, your third team, those reserves, and then 513 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: further defining roles. As far as takeaways or observations. For me, 514 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: Garrett Williams playing a lot more outside cornerback. That was 515 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: even before the Starlinge Thomas injury. How many times have 516 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: we discussed this on Wednesday's Cardinals covered two The number 517 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: of times we've seen the three safety look, meaning Mac 518 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: Wilson is by himself as far as inside linebackers. So 519 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: those are the big observations. And then what we talked 520 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: about all offseason, the depth and the talent along the 521 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: defensive line look great on paper, it looks even better 522 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: I think on the football. 523 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: Field it definitely does. And the rotation is quite remarkable 524 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: because you go from having your starting three defensive linemen 525 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: in that three to four package, and that three to 526 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: four base with Kalayis Dalvin Tomlinson on the middle is 527 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: kind of that zero tech one I tech for that 528 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: kind of that nose guard, and then you have Darius Robinson. 529 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: Those are your three down defensive linemen. Then you rotate 530 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: that out and you've had Dante's Dills, You've had LJ. Coyllier, 531 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: you had Justin Jones at points when he was healthy. 532 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: He has yet to be on the practice field in 533 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: the previous weeks, so we haven't seen much of number 534 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: ninety eight out there, but the depth in the rotation 535 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: is quite remarkable out there. You knew what you were 536 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: going to be getting with an improved defensive line. To 537 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: see the rotation is still quite incredible. And then, oh wait, 538 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: your first rounder, Walter Nolan the third is still recovering 539 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: and he is still in the wings, so you don't 540 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 3: know what you have from him. But this coaching staff 541 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: has spoken very bolishly about Walter and when he does return, 542 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 3: the impact he's going to make disappointed. 543 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: We didn't get to see Walter on the field here 544 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium, but you got Darius Robinson healthy. 545 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: And then just overall that defensive line room is not 546 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: like you need Walt right now. I mean, he becomes 547 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: a great piece to that puzzle. But he's not the 548 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: main piece of the puzzle. 549 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 3: Which is why I caution people because people have already 550 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: made comments about it. When you look at the depth 551 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 3: chart and you see Walter Nolan the third as the 552 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: third stringer, He's not a third stringer on this roster. 553 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: He's just injured right now. So the unofficial depth chart 554 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: is just going to kind of led him into that role. 555 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 3: We're not going to see him out there for much 556 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: of the preseason from what the reporting has been. There 557 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: are hopes about him potentially being there for the season 558 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 3: opener against the New Orleans Saints because of the cash 559 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: strain injury. Ian Rapaport on NFL Network was discussing it, 560 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: saying that it's about a six to eight week injury. 561 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: We don't know exactly when it occurred. We just know 562 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: it occurred before training camp began. When when Walt gets 563 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: out there, because they're going to be very careful. They've 564 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: warned a lot from Darius Robinson's calf injury from the 565 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: season prior. They're going to be careful and selective about 566 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 3: when they ultimately want to put him out on the 567 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: field and pads in a helmet. But when it does happen. 568 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: It's going to be a sight to see number ninety 569 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 3: seven out there. 570 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: Without Walt on the field. All of the attention as 571 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: far as the star of the rookie class shifted to 572 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: Will Johnson, and yeah, he is ready, whether he is 573 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: CB one, two or three, whether he starts, he is 574 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: in that three cornerback rotation and looks very, very solid. 575 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: I think might have had the play of cards camp 576 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: at the Red and White practice, stepping in front, jumping 577 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: the route on a Kyler Murray pass intended for Jay Jones, 578 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: not only securing the football, but getting both feet in 579 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: bounds in what was a late game situation and getting 580 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: the offense off the field. 581 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: And that's when Nick defensive coordinator Nick Rowis doubled down 582 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: on the fact of him saying that Will Johnson and 583 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: even cornerback Denzel Burke, the fifth round pick, they don't 584 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 3: practice or play in practices like their rookies. They have 585 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: the brain, they have the IQ. So when it was 586 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 3: asked to Nick Rolis about that interception that you're talking about, 587 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 3: he said, it's a credit to Will Johnson's brain and 588 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: his IQ of knowing what's actually going to be taking 589 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 3: place on the football field when you're lining up across 590 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: from a wide receiver. Granted, this is training camp when 591 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: the Cardinals are lining up against the Cardinals, so they 592 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: know their teammates, they know everybody's instincts and techniques, but 593 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: still there are levels to this. And with Will Johnson 594 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 3: being able to scope out Zay Jones' route and to 595 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: jump in front of it and still manage to get 596 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: two feet down after being in college when you only 597 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: needed one foot down, to manage to get both feet 598 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: down was a special play that definitely went viral on 599 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: social media and the Cardinals have posted it on their 600 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: account at easy Cardinals, So definitely check it out if 601 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: you haven't, or you could just go to State Farm 602 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 3: Stadium on Saturday to watch it happen against Patrick Mahomes. 603 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: Anything else as far as just the Cards camp, the 604 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: practices overall, or they think we pretty much all covered it. 605 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean Zay Jones, Yeah, good to have him available, 606 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: and because that was a question mark wasn't a question mark. 607 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: We knew at the end of training camp that Zay 608 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: was not going to be around for those first five games, 609 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: missed the first six, but he's someone that is now 610 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: available to certainly looks like he has become that third 611 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver to be able to play all three spots. 612 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: My observations are this, if you're a fantasy football drafter, 613 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: you look at drafting trade McBride very early because Marvin 614 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: me because Kyler Murray went after him a lot. And 615 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 3: you've also seen just how folks they were on making 616 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: sure the connection is there between Marvin and Kyler Murray 617 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: because Kyler Murray has targeted him quite a bit. And 618 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 3: then what's interesting with Zay Jones. Yes, you assume that 619 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 3: Michael Wilson is going to be that wide receiver two, 620 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: but I think Jay Jones is giving him a run 621 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 3: for his money as a number two target because we've 622 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: seen in so many different drills Kyler has managed to 623 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 3: find number seventeen on different crossing routes and slants and 624 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 3: even going downfield for day. But that's not to say 625 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: Michael Wilson's not the wide receiver too. I believe that 626 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 3: he is, but he's giving him a run for his 627 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 3: Money's a Jones is. 628 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: It's been a lot of fun here at State Farm Stadium. 629 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Saturday for the preseason opener the 630 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals in Kansas City Chiefs. Five o'clock is the kickoff 631 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: one thirty. Pre game covers begins on the Arizona Cardinals 632 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: Radio network, and then it's back to Tempe and kind 633 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: of almost a regular schedule, although next week road trip 634 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: to Denver, a joint practice on Thursday, and then the 635 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: final preseason game here at State Farm Stadium against the 636 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders, and then two weeks later it's Week 637 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: one in New Orleans. So we are we are off 638 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: and running. 639 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: We're off and running definitely. You know, check us out 640 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: on the radio, TV broadcast. Craig's gonna even be played 641 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: by play for one of the games, which is gonna 642 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: be so exciting when he gets to join a Q 643 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: Shipley in the booth. Look, this is the the preseason 644 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 3: for a reason. There's gonna be a lot of trial 645 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: and error, with a lot of errors in the preseason. 646 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: You want to see what's working out there. But come 647 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: week one, this looks like a Cardinals team that's gonna 648 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 3: be ready to go. And I could say from a 649 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: content perspective, we're already in mid season. 650 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: Four Azycardinals dot Com for all of the articles. Great work, 651 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: Zach and always It's a lot of work but a 652 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: lot of fun during Cards Camp. Now we just kind 653 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: of shift things back to Tempe. And on that note, 654 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals 655 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: Cover two presented by Hyundai, partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 656 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Amhunre, 657 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: our associate producer Cody Fincher. For Zach Gershman, I'm Craig 658 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: Rayal Lou. We'll talk to you next time here on 659 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. H