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Speaker 2: down because quarterback play has not been consistent, trying to
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Speaker 2: phone calls. The Yankees quietly acquired Juan Soto from the
Speaker 2: Padres and put him in the outfield, put him with
Speaker 2: that right field wall. And a guy who is going
Speaker 2: to give you at least thirty homers might be giving
Speaker 2: you forty homers and he's only twenty five years of age.
Speaker 4: Let's see. Zach Wilson, he.
Speaker 2: Is going to get the start. He's going to get
Speaker 2: the start, and he's ready to go. Met with the
Speaker 2: media and apparently he heard a story about something that
Speaker 2: pertained to him and maybe his reluctance to play, but
Speaker 2: he did address it yesterday.
Speaker 3: Zac.
Speaker 5: There was a report I'm sure you were Monday that
Speaker 5: said you had expressed some reluctance about becoming the starter again.
Speaker 4: Is there any truth to that?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, you know, absolutely not.
Speaker 6: I love the guys in this locker room and I
Speaker 6: would do anything, and I think anytime you have an
Speaker 6: opportunity step in this field, you need to take advantage
Speaker 6: of it.
Speaker 1: Did you feel or need to address the team at
Speaker 1: all about that, because that report kind of was widespread
Speaker 1: on Monday.
Speaker 6: No, I don't think so, and I think more than anything,
Speaker 6: I've had support from those guys through this entire process.
Speaker 6: I think guys understand where we're at right now, and
Speaker 6: I've had backing, you know, since day one, and that's
Speaker 6: why I love this team so much. And you know,
Speaker 6: if they understand the struggles we've been going through, and
Speaker 6: you know, I think there can be a lot of
Speaker 6: respect shown to just keep fighting from everybody and we're
Speaker 6: all going through the same things.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he needed to address the situation because if
Speaker 2: the story is not true, then you're not validating it.
Speaker 2: But I think you're re emphasizing that it's not true.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was an offhanded comment, but I would be
Speaker 2: livid if somebody said I didn't want to play football,
Speaker 2: that I was reluctant to play. I would be angry.
Speaker 2: And it's not one of those nunnah. I didn't see
Speaker 2: a reason to No, No, you need to you need
Speaker 2: to explain how could this have possibly seen the light
Speaker 2: of day. Somebody in the organization is leaking this. You
Speaker 2: may not want to talk about that, leave that to
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers who talked about that. But this is a
Speaker 2: it's always been a dysfunctional organization. They've had their moments.
Speaker 2: But sometimes you see what happens with these teams and
Speaker 2: you go, how is this unfolding? How's it unraveling? You know,
Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers, that's a mess starting at the top,
Speaker 2: and then the infighting, backstabbing the Jets. Who would leak this?
Speaker 2: Why would you leak this? Do you really dislike Zach
Speaker 2: Wilson that much? If you really dislike him, play him,
Speaker 2: put him out there. But don't I have a smear
Speaker 2: campaign against the kid. Just if he's going to play,
Speaker 2: put him out there. Let him play the next five games? Also,
Speaker 2: why do I see this scenario happening? The Patriots continue
Speaker 2: to lose, and then they get to the last game
Speaker 2: of the season, maybe the last game of Bill Belichick's
Speaker 2: career in New England, and Bill sticks it to the
Speaker 2: organization by winning the game against the Jets and they
Speaker 2: lose out on Caleb Williams or Drake May Can you
Speaker 2: what's the draft order now with the Patriots?
Speaker 7: Right now, Bears had the number one pick from Carolina.
Speaker 7: The New England Patriots are comfortable with the number two
Speaker 7: pick in the draft. They can even afford a win,
Speaker 7: They can even afford one win. Arizona's third in the
Speaker 7: draft right now at three and ten.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just see that scenario. I don't know if
Speaker 2: New England wins another game, but then they're gonna have
Speaker 2: that final game and it'll be against the Jets, and
Speaker 2: then that would be like remember Lovey Smith when he
Speaker 2: was with the Texans, Like, whatever you do, don't screw
Speaker 2: it up, Lovey, don't win the last you won the
Speaker 2: last game. Yeah, Paul, would you.
Speaker 7: Be interested in some speculation based on nothing? I was
Speaker 7: just thinking about the Jets situation and who could have
Speaker 7: leaked that Zach Wilson was talking. Because Zach Wilson probably
Speaker 7: spends a lot of his time in the quarterback room
Speaker 7: and the meetings and so on and so forth, and
Speaker 7: there's some assistant coaches in there, and the other quarterbacks
Speaker 7: are in there. Tim Boyle just got cut. They could
Speaker 7: have easily kept him on the roster for the rest
Speaker 7: of the year. And I wonder on the way out
Speaker 7: or one of the reasons he's on the way out
Speaker 7: is was he talking to the media or after he
Speaker 7: was let go by the Jets, did he talk to
Speaker 7: the media.
Speaker 2: Because Zach Wilson didn't play well, Tim Boyle got a
Speaker 2: chance to play. If Zach Wilson plays well, Tim Boyle
Speaker 2: doesn't even get to play.
Speaker 7: Someone overheard Zach Wilson making some type of comment that they
Speaker 7: construed us I don't want to play. I don't play
Speaker 7: behind this offensive line. They're put me in danger and
Speaker 7: the most likely people are the people he's around with
Speaker 7: all day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know why Tim Boyle. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Because Zach doesn't want to play, Tim Boyle would maybe
Speaker 2: get a chance to play more. I don't understand why.
Speaker 2: You know there was a smear campaign on the kid,
Speaker 2: because he was already doing that to himself. By the
Speaker 2: way he played, that is harshmeared you a enough? Did
Speaker 2: you didn't need to go? He doesn't want to ply.
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, that is tough. Yeah, all right, get
Speaker 2: some phone calls coming up. By the way, this Jacksonville
Speaker 2: Jaguar story is pretty spicy. A financial employee is accused
Speaker 2: of stealing more than twenty two million dollars from the
Speaker 2: team over a four year period. And it's not Urban Meyer.
Speaker 2: So he manipulated the virtual credit card program, according to
Speaker 2: documents filed this week in the US District Court. According
Speaker 2: to the court filing. This gentleman is accused of stealing
Speaker 2: just over twenty two million dollars, using some of that
Speaker 2: money for purchases that included a condominium, a Tesla, cryptocurrency chartering,
Speaker 2: private jets, luxury hotel stays, a country club membership, and
Speaker 2: really really expensive watches. Did you ever think doing it
Speaker 2: on the down low here, dude? I think all of
Speaker 2: the sudden you're showing up with this and you're probably
Speaker 2: making you know, seventy two thousand dollars and you're, hey,
Speaker 2: you want to come to the country club. Oh, what
Speaker 2: time is it? Oh let me see. Oh my Panori
Speaker 2: that I have on here. Oh you got a Tesla?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Tesla, Yeah, I got that too, condominium, ponta
Speaker 2: vidrafor wow, you're killing it.
Speaker 4: And cryptocurrency yes.
Speaker 3: Ton.
Speaker 5: There was a scene in Good Fellows, which I don't
Speaker 5: believe you've seen, but Robert Denner gets all upset with
Speaker 5: his fellow gangsters because one shows up in a fancy car,
Speaker 5: the other one's girlfriend's got a big fur cod on
Speaker 5: and he pulls them over.
Speaker 3: It's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Paul, But do you think the jaguars employee.
Speaker 7: Like he starts doing this four years ago. He figures
Speaker 7: out there's a way I could take money from the Jaguars,
Speaker 7: put it in a separate account. I test it out.
Speaker 7: I put like five grand, and then ten grand, and
Speaker 7: six months later he's like, no one's noticed this, no
Speaker 7: one's caught on. You know, he probably thought himself, why stop,
Speaker 7: because I'm guilty? And is it I wonder if, like
Speaker 7: if you took a million or twenty two million, he
Speaker 7: probably just said, I'll keep going.
Speaker 4: Well, he's guilty, right, Ben, he's guilty.
Speaker 7: Error is there levels of guiltiness by how much you take?
Speaker 8: Definitely, but like let's say it.
Speaker 7: Was a million versus twenty two million, is it the same?
Speaker 7: Does he have to pay back the money?
Speaker 4: I don't know what the prison time is going to be.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he I mean, he's gonna have
Speaker 2: to sell all of this stuff that he bought. But
Speaker 2: you know, he chartered private jets and stayed in great
Speaker 2: hotels and that's not something you're gonna get bag.
Speaker 9: Yeah, don't worry, DP, I'm still flying Jet Blue. Okay,
Speaker 9: all right, I trust you?
Speaker 10: All right?
Speaker 3: Cool?
Speaker 7: Now, do you have a cover car if you're this guy.
Speaker 7: Would you have the Maserati for weekends and then you
Speaker 7: drive like a nice civic.
Speaker 4: Well he had a Tesla.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, and that's.
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that that's affordable.
Speaker 2: Yeah yes, okay, yeah, yeah yeah, so that's that's not
Speaker 2: something that's you know, it can be high end.
Speaker 4: I'm sure he had four teslas.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like, at some point, how do you
Speaker 2: get away with, you know, putting or hiding or maybe
Speaker 2: not hiding twenty two million dollars. It's not like you went,
Speaker 2: oh man, he was siphoning and it's like fifteen hundred dollars. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's twenty two million dollars. Does anybody come in to
Speaker 2: oversee what he's doing. I'm guessing they will now, But man,
Speaker 2: twenty two million dollars.
Speaker 9: Yeah, smart, that's why the Jaguars couldn't afford a cart.
Speaker 9: Oh happened to that cart? Money?
Speaker 2: I brought this up when I'm watching Trevor Lawrence wins
Speaker 2: in pain limp off the field and then he has
Speaker 2: to walk up the ramp to get to the locker room.
Speaker 2: I'm like, where is the golf cart? This is your franchise.
Speaker 2: Unless they didn't have any money for a golf cart
Speaker 2: because this guy spend it on other things. Here's Trevor
Speaker 2: Lawrence on declining to take the cart to the locker room.
Speaker 11: We talked about getting a cart, and I was going
Speaker 11: to get a car, and then I'm standing there and
Speaker 11: you know, I'm already on the sideline at that point,
Speaker 11: the tunnels right there. I just wanted to get off
Speaker 11: the field, get out of there. I didn't know what
Speaker 11: was going on with my ankle, and I felt like
Speaker 11: I could get off. You're good, just don't bring it out.
Speaker 11: I'm going in. And then once I got in there,
Speaker 11: I'm like, this is a pretty long walk, you know.
Speaker 11: But I was already there, and they asked again if
Speaker 11: I wanted a cart. I'm like, no, we're gonna make
Speaker 11: it the whole way there. I didn't know there was
Speaker 11: cameras in the tunnel, you know, so that's kind of
Speaker 11: everywhere exactly so. But no, it's of course we have
Speaker 11: carts and we have everything we need. And I was
Speaker 11: the one that didn't choose to take one, you know,
Speaker 11: So I guess put that on me, and maybe that
Speaker 11: was dumb. Maybe I should have taken one.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 8: That's where the coach goes no, get in the cart. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 8: that's where there is no. I guess that one's on
Speaker 8: me because there's staff there. That's like, buddy, we're telling
Speaker 8: you put your ass on the cart and take the
Speaker 8: right in.
Speaker 2: You're not walking, yes, yes, he's win singing paint. We
Speaker 2: need those legs to be healthy, Bud. Just sit okay, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I mean I get it. You don't want to be
Speaker 2: carted off if you're a player. But once you walk
Speaker 2: off the field, then you can get on the cart.
Speaker 2: And even if there's cameras like, Okay, I'm gonna swallow
Speaker 2: my pride because this really hurts and who knows if
Speaker 2: you're doing any further damage to it. Get in the cart,
Speaker 2: wave to the audience and go to the locker room.
Speaker 2: Don't do fife and drum bugle corps where you're dragging
Speaker 2: yourself up there. There's no need to do that. Pull
Speaker 2: question for hour two is gonna be watched heat No connor.
Speaker 8: It's the whole Jaguars thing is kind of like office
Speaker 8: space where they so he just to be to that
Speaker 8: where they in the movie office space. They devise this
Speaker 8: system where it sort of rounds off like fractions of
Speaker 8: a penny, and they're like, over year's worth, we're gonna
Speaker 8: have a bunch of money, but nobody notices fractions of
Speaker 8: a penny. And then these idiots, because the movie is
Speaker 8: basically these dudes are a bunch of idiots. They must
Speaker 8: have gotten a decimal point wrong or something. Overnight they
Speaker 8: stole hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So this guy from the Jaguars, if you read
Speaker 7: more about the account, he was making legitimate purchases for
Speaker 7: the team, but inflating the cost of the purchases and
Speaker 7: keeping the money in a separate account. Or he was
Speaker 7: purchasing something with the scene. Let's say he was buying
Speaker 7: Let's say he was buying equipment for the team. Hypothetically
Speaker 7: that was a legitimate purchase. He would he would buy
Speaker 7: a Tesla right and say it's equipment. He was a
Speaker 7: guy writing down the expense reports and approving the expense
Speaker 7: reports so he could put whatever he wanted for what
Speaker 7: the expense was, and no one's checking you, bick, oh,
Speaker 7: we're buying a new turf system for.
Speaker 4: Two hundred and forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: He's accused of duplicating legitimate expenses in an electronic ledger,
Speaker 2: inflating amounts of legitimate transactions, entering fictitious transactions, and then
Speaker 2: using the money for personal purchases. What kind of jail
Speaker 2: time do you get for something like that?
Speaker 7: What if he has to continue working for the Jaguars
Speaker 7: as the funny Golly.
Speaker 2: He's held various titles during his tenure with the Jaguars,
Speaker 2: and most recently manager financial Planning Analysts. He was the
Speaker 2: sole overseer of the program, the virtual credit card program.
Speaker 2: Uh wow, I'm at Patel is charged with wire fraud
Speaker 2: and illegal monetary transactions.
Speaker 7: I'd love to see the video, like or when he
Speaker 7: was told he was busted. Did they walk in at
Speaker 7: work the HR people? Have I talked a little bit.
Speaker 4: Wirefrugul gets you twenty years? Yeah?
Speaker 8: Dang, that is not worth a tesla. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2: I don't know, well, I don't know private private jets,
Speaker 2: country club tesla, four years, scholarship, four.
Speaker 8: Great years versus twenty years in jail. No, No, I'm good. Okay,
Speaker 8: pay the fifty bucks to upgrade at United for the
Speaker 8: little extra leg room.
Speaker 2: Okay, how many years in jail for the trade off
Speaker 2: to spend twenty two million dollars. If I said you
Speaker 2: had to spend three years in jail.
Speaker 8: And when you got out you get twenty two million dollars. No, no,
Speaker 8: you already spent your twenty two million. Oh no, no, no, Marvin,
Speaker 8: any jail time for twenty two million.
Speaker 9: I was in the holding cell for three hours once, No,
Speaker 9: not a minute.
Speaker 4: Did you cry when you were in the holding cell?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 12: I was.
Speaker 3: I was on the cusp. I was like, damn, this
Speaker 3: is it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to see you again. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: you're finally going to get that prison body you've been
Speaker 2: working on.
Speaker 3: I'm no, I don't want there.
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Speaker 2: goes to the Yankees.
Speaker 4: That's one of those.
Speaker 2: Oh by the way, Oh that's right, there are other
Speaker 2: free agents who are available. We'll take a break. We're
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Speaker 2: There are reports that John Ram is going to join
Speaker 2: the Live Tour. Now this has been there for a while.
Speaker 2: The Telegraph reported Tuesday the deal between John Ram and
Speaker 2: the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund who's leading the negotiations.
Speaker 2: He is imminent, maybe announced in the coming days. John Rahm,
Speaker 2: the defending champ at the American Express is not among
Speaker 2: the early commitments to that field in Palm Springs in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. He's twenty nine years of age. Previously
Speaker 2: shot down rumors that he was headed to Live toour.
Speaker 2: I've seen anywhere from four hundred to six hundred million
Speaker 2: dollars for John Rahm. I'll go back to February of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. This is my official, my one and
Speaker 2: only time I'll talk about this where I'm officially declaring
Speaker 2: my love for the PGA Tour. I'm a pack member.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of belief in the Commissioner J
Speaker 2: Monahan and the product that they are going to give
Speaker 2: us in the future. He talked about this speculation for
Speaker 2: the Live Tour, and he backed the tour again in
Speaker 2: June of twenty twenty two. He's interested in the history
Speaker 2: and legacy with the PGA Tour. My heart is with
Speaker 2: the PGA Tour. That's all I can say. So those
Speaker 2: are some of the comments that he's had. And I'm
Speaker 2: curious with the Live Tour, do you need to spend
Speaker 2: this money if there's eventually going to be a merger. Now,
Speaker 2: if I'm John Rahm and I can pick up four
Speaker 2: hundred five hundred million dollars and eventually I'm going to
Speaker 2: be able to still play on the PGA Tour events,
Speaker 2: play in the majors. Hard money to pass up and
Speaker 2: less blowback. Now, if Rory did it, he's the one guy.
Speaker 2: Tiger and Rory would never be able to do it.
Speaker 2: And not that they would, but they would never be
Speaker 2: able to do it. Okay, But if you're the Live Tour,
Speaker 2: do you need to spend this money on John Rong?
Speaker 2: How long are you getting him for? And if if
Speaker 2: eventually they're going to merge, which they're going to have to,
Speaker 2: I get it. If I'm John Rohm, be tough to
Speaker 2: turn down that kind of money. How long are you
Speaker 2: going to be on the Live Tour? Do you get
Speaker 2: to play in the majors? Okay, you don't get to
Speaker 2: do Ryder Cup or whatever. You know, they're going to
Speaker 2: have stipulations in their requirements points that you're gonna need
Speaker 2: to qualify to get into certain things. But if you're
Speaker 2: John Ram you got a chance to pick up that
Speaker 2: kind of money. I certainly understand it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Paul, it's a confusing story because, like you said,
Speaker 7: I wonder if rom and it's people were like, this
Speaker 7: offer is still out there at this juncture, why do
Speaker 7: you need to pay Let's say it's three hundred million
Speaker 7: for me for a year and a half of work.
Speaker 7: But you know, the vitual against it isn't there right now.
Speaker 7: There's a very little reaction of the story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been there for a little while because he
Speaker 2: has been backing out of things, and I think that's
Speaker 2: where people started to notice that maybe there's some bread
Speaker 2: crumbs he's putting down that he's going to go.
Speaker 4: To the Live Tour.
Speaker 2: You know, Livetur's got to eventually get to play four
Speaker 2: rounds of golf. That's the only real hang up I
Speaker 2: have as far as you know, the events they have
Speaker 2: play four rounds. You don't need to do three. Okay,
Speaker 2: you have loud music, and you have some funny team names,
Speaker 2: and you get to wear shorts. Okay, nobody cares. I mean,
Speaker 2: you're going to be gone. You may not be forgotten,
Speaker 2: but they're I mean, you're still watching an event. If
Speaker 2: you're watching Pebble Beach, you're watching Pebble Beach because it's
Speaker 2: at Pebble Beach. Whoever's playing, it's nice to have those
Speaker 2: great players but I don't miss Phil Micholson.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: I loved watching him, but I'm fine at no point
Speaker 2: in the last couple of weeks that I go, Man,
Speaker 2: I sure wouldn't like to have Phil Micholson out there.
Speaker 4: I don't care.
Speaker 3: That's what happened.
Speaker 4: Like Bubba Watson, love Bubba, I don't miss him.
Speaker 10: Is that okay? All right?
Speaker 4: I mean that's what happens.
Speaker 2: Somebody else will come in, and somebody else will win
Speaker 2: a tournament or win a couple of tournaments. Here. John
Speaker 2: Rahm's a wonderful player, you know he'll he was a
Speaker 2: great guest with us. But I don't know if people
Speaker 2: are going to be going not watching John Ram's not
Speaker 2: in there. When he's in there, great when he's not,
Speaker 2: I'm still watching. So live tour, whatever the plan is.
Speaker 2: It feels like they eventually have to merge.
Speaker 7: But are they aware they're merging?
Speaker 4: Do the people who call the job. I have no
Speaker 4: idea they where.
Speaker 8: I don't How do you leave the PGA for a
Speaker 8: live tour at this point when they're merging in like
Speaker 8: eighteen months, unless.
Speaker 4: Well there's no penalty.
Speaker 2: I mean, if they're merging, take the money and then
Speaker 2: you're eventually going to be the PGA Tour. I mean,
Speaker 2: people may go, I can't believe you left for you know,
Speaker 2: fourteen months, but yes.
Speaker 8: Is this a sign that really PGA was acquired by
Speaker 8: livgofwel and maybe not merged.
Speaker 2: Well, that's still trying to figure out, you know, who
Speaker 2: are the power players in this, because it feels like
Speaker 2: the Live Tour is guiding the PGA Tour.
Speaker 4: By the way.
Speaker 8: I kind of feel like everybody's statements pre j Monahan
Speaker 8: uh doing what he did, you know, should be almost
Speaker 8: like wiped clean because everybody they thought that they had
Speaker 8: they thought they were backing the PGA and PGA was
Speaker 8: backing them, and it turns out they backed PGA and
Speaker 8: PGA cut a deal out from under them. Yeah, that's garbage.
Speaker 8: And I don't really think that John Rahm or Rory
Speaker 8: McElroy or anybody else should be.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, I thought you weren't going and now you are.
Speaker 8: Well, that whole thing changed once PGA decided to cut
Speaker 8: a deal without telling them.
Speaker 3: That's fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think there's a lot of golfers who
Speaker 2: feel like that that they they they pledge their allegiance
Speaker 2: to the PGA tour.
Speaker 8: The PGA Tour wasn't pledging its allegiance to its player.
Speaker 8: John Rahm said he was betrayed. There's a huge sense
Speaker 8: of betrayal. Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: You want to make that money, you want to take
Speaker 2: the money. Maybe it's two years down the road, you're
Speaker 2: back on PGA, you know, on the tour, whatever the
Speaker 2: tour is. I mean, they got to figure this out,
Speaker 2: got to figure it out soon. But I as far
Speaker 2: as those who were going to defect, John Rahm was
Speaker 2: the last name. It felt like he was going to
Speaker 2: do that. So if he takes the money, maybe you
Speaker 2: will see him. Maybe we'll see him in just majors,
Speaker 2: depending on if they allow him in.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: That's a big blow. Yeah, if you're a diehard golfer,
Speaker 2: that's a big blow. But the casual golf fan, you
Speaker 2: just watch a lot of times. You watch for the
Speaker 2: scenery of it, like it's always at a great place,
Speaker 2: weather's always great, well, everybody looks great, having a good time,
Speaker 2: and it just feels like that's what you tune in
Speaker 2: with that sport. There's no Tiger, there's no there's no Tiger.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're holding on to you know, a banged up,
Speaker 2: broken down Tiger right now. But as far as and Rory,
Speaker 2: we keep waiting for Rory to be consistently great, or
Speaker 2: Jordan Spieth or Justin Thomas. But it you know, that's
Speaker 2: that it almost magnifies how great Tiger was. That he's
Speaker 2: winning I think like one every four tournaments at one
Speaker 2: point in his career. We're not going to have that now.
Speaker 2: They're going to do the rollbacks with the golf balls
Speaker 2: in a few years where they're trying to take away distance.
Speaker 2: And what what's going to happen is people are going
Speaker 2: to be going out and buying you know, title is
Speaker 2: pro vs and stockpiling them because you know, once once
Speaker 2: they get to whatever twenty twenty nine or something to
Speaker 2: twenty eight, they're going to take away those golf balls
Speaker 2: because these dudes are playing with whiffle balls now that
Speaker 2: they want to take away like fifteen to twenty yards
Speaker 2: from golfers, well, the average golfer is going to be
Speaker 2: affected as well. But they said, wow, it's only going
Speaker 2: to be like five yards or so, Hey, I'll take
Speaker 2: that far. I need that five yards here. Rory doesn't
Speaker 2: need an extra fifteen Yeah, pul Yeah.
Speaker 7: The USGA and the RNA announced on Wednesday, capping five
Speaker 7: years of study on this topic, that golf balls are
Speaker 7: going farther.
Speaker 3: That's a deep study.
Speaker 4: Who saw that one coming.
Speaker 7: I'm going to say it with some money that over
Speaker 7: the past twenty five years, t shots are traveling thirty
Speaker 7: yards further.
Speaker 4: It's detrimental of the game.
Speaker 7: They're saying it's hurting local courses distance, it's hurting the
Speaker 7: pro courses for like how they'd make it par So
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty eight, there'll be like a governor on
Speaker 7: the golf ball where they can't make golf balls that
Speaker 7: have a certain distance metric and for recreational golfers twenty thirty.
Speaker 3: So get it in now.
Speaker 2: It brought this up years that I thought Augusta was
Speaker 2: going to create their own golf ball. They're just going
Speaker 2: to say you play an our tournament because you can't
Speaker 2: expand at Augusta. You know, they bought some adjoining land
Speaker 2: to try to make I think thirteen tea a little
Speaker 2: bit longer, but they don't have any room. And that's
Speaker 2: what I worried about, is these great courses that have
Speaker 2: been around for centuries that I don't want them to
Speaker 2: be obsolete. I want people to play that course the
Speaker 2: way that course is meant to be played. And then
Speaker 2: it became just about power. It was just hit it.
Speaker 2: As far as Michelson said years ago on this show, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'd rather pound it and maybe maybe in a little
Speaker 2: bit of trouble in the rough. But I'm hitting an
Speaker 2: eight iron and then somebody else is hitting a six iron.
Speaker 2: I mean that's the philosophy that you have. But golf
Speaker 2: moving forward is moving back in some ways with the
Speaker 2: golf ball there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, poem, Yeah, this new golf ball that they tested
Speaker 7: that they are probably going to roll out. It goes
Speaker 7: with a big hitter on the tour. They estimate fifteen
Speaker 7: yards shorter on a monster drive. Yeah, and people have.
Speaker 7: Rory McRoy said he loves it. It'll make golf, it'll
Speaker 7: bring back like the short game, the mid range game.
Speaker 2: Well, if I'm Rory, I love it because I still
Speaker 2: hit it further than everybody. I'm still going to be
Speaker 2: fifteen yards further than everybody else. Now, you know, it's
Speaker 2: just you got more shot making, And really golf is
Speaker 2: not necessarily about shot making anymore, because if you're a guy,
Speaker 2: you know, there's golfers who just didn't hit it, you know,
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty, two hundred and sixty, two undred
Speaker 2: and seventy yards. You're getting crushed out there. Those guys
Speaker 2: are playing a completely different game. They're hitting the ball
Speaker 2: three thirty. You're hitting two seventy, so sixty yards. I
Speaker 2: might put a wedge in your hand and you're hitting
Speaker 2: an eight iron. The difference with a wedge and an
Speaker 2: eight iron with those guys, I mean, it's such such
Speaker 2: a disadvantage for these guys who don't hit it as far,
Speaker 2: but they can be great golfers. A lot of times
Speaker 2: you'll see golfers even when you're out playing the weekend
Speaker 2: and you got somebody who doesn't hit it very far,
Speaker 2: but he hits it right down the middle, and then
Speaker 2: he'll hit it right up to the green and then
Speaker 2: it'll get up and down like That's what some of
Speaker 2: these guys on tour will. Maybe they can come back
Speaker 2: to and have those players be able to get in
Speaker 2: the mix.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Paul.
Speaker 7: So you've got to stay on air for five more years,
Speaker 7: dan four more years, because there's gonna be a story
Speaker 7: that some mid level golfer on the corn Ferry tour
Speaker 7: was sneaking in bootleg golf balls to hit it further.
Speaker 4: Well, they check your balls before the run.
Speaker 2: Oh okay there, Yeah, I might take up golf now. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Interesting, interesting time for golf. Interesting time.
Speaker 2: But then the golf ball thing and I like, you know,
Speaker 2: the weekend guy like, how dare they is somebody gonna
Speaker 2: check the golf balls that we have in five years?
Speaker 2: You start stockpiling some of these pro v You're like,
Speaker 2: is that legit?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Of course it is. Is there gonna be like
Speaker 4: a designation there?
Speaker 2: I guess there going to be a blue light that
Speaker 2: you put it under and you go, okay, that's legitimate here.
Speaker 4: But you're gonna have bootleg.
Speaker 2: You're gonna guys selling golf balls out of the trunk
Speaker 2: of their car when you get to the golf course.
Speaker 5: Yes, Tom, is it gonna be like that fishing story
Speaker 5: where they blow up the balls to see if somebody's
Speaker 5: putting little pellets in.
Speaker 3: There or what the feather is? What's in there?
Speaker 2: A couple of phone calls in here, Chris in Brooklyn,
Speaker 2: Good morning Chris, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10: Good morning fellows?
Speaker 4: How you doing good?
Speaker 14: Good on the in season tournament. I was just going
Speaker 14: to say, it will be funny if the Pacers win.
Speaker 14: You know, they have this like running gun offense. They
Speaker 14: have the highest points per game in NBA history right now,
Speaker 14: also giving up the most points in the league.
Speaker 10: But if they win the tournament this like they'll act
Speaker 10: like it's uh, you know, the takes will be is
Speaker 10: this the future of basketball? Because they want to see
Speaker 10: the tournament, Whereas in the couple of years it would
Speaker 10: have been a couple months in the Pacers are scoring
Speaker 10: a lot of points. But now this would create some
Speaker 10: sort of like justification or talking point about this. You know,
Speaker 10: it's not a new offense. It's happened before, but they're
Speaker 10: just doing it to a really extreme level.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just remember when it would be on
Speaker 2: rare occasion you'd have a game in the one thirties
Speaker 2: or one forties. Now that seems like a nightly occurrence.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: It's not a big deal where you go, oh, they
Speaker 2: scored one hundred and forty five points, one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty points. But this is the you know, the advent
Speaker 2: of the three where everybody gets to shoot it.
Speaker 9: Yes, and also can we get away from this? Basketball
Speaker 9: is better in the nineties because I watched the game
Speaker 9: on game It was terrible on NBA TV, and it
Speaker 9: was like Knicks Pacers and it was eighty seven eighty four.
Speaker 9: They brought in the three point line because they wanted
Speaker 9: to up the scoring because guys couldn't shoot except Reggie
Speaker 9: and Glenn Rice and Mark Price. You know, it's about
Speaker 9: three guys in the league that could really shoot, and
Speaker 9: they brought into three point line by about three feet.
Speaker 3: In the nineties, it was bad.
Speaker 4: It was bad.
Speaker 2: It was Greco Roman wrestling and first team to ninety
Speaker 2: usually would win a game. And some of the biggest
Speaker 2: guilty parties were Mike Frittello and pat Riley when Ryle's
Speaker 2: was with the Knicks and for Tello with the Calves.
Speaker 2: It was physical, physical basketball, and why you would think
Speaker 2: that you would want that with these great athletes and
Speaker 2: you know, transition basketball.
Speaker 4: They're like, no, we like that tough foul.
Speaker 2: And imagine some of those guys who played in the
Speaker 2: eighties and nineties if they got to play today, you
Speaker 2: know what their numbers would look like.
Speaker 9: They would have made the roster. No, he said, man,
Speaker 9: he could really punch him in the face. But he
Speaker 9: can't hit an eighteen footer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you wouldn't need Charles Oakley, you wouldn't need
Speaker 2: Rick Mahorn, you wouldn't need the intimidators, like your physical
Speaker 2: guy is a nuisance, like Dylan Brooks, Draymond Green.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: Won a guy who is hey, why is he out
Speaker 2: there in case things get out of hand.
Speaker 3: Yes, they're not intimidators. They're just annoying.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, back then what they intimidated. Yeah, it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: if you do something to him, you got to go
Speaker 2: through me. All right, I'm not going to do anything
Speaker 2: to him. Yeah, pumm.
Speaker 7: I agree that scoring was not that much fun back
Speaker 7: then though, sixty eight seventy two that was awful. But
Speaker 7: there was a lot more tension in games. There's a
Speaker 7: lot more physicality and not get off my lawn, but
Speaker 7: the physicality is completely missing now. It's like it's gone
Speaker 7: so extreme the other way. It's two where there's not
Speaker 7: some compromise where I like one hundred and forty two points,
Speaker 7: but I like to see something besides three pointers taken.
Speaker 2: And that's all it is. I mean, the percentage of
Speaker 2: three point shots is crazy. But if you're going to
Speaker 2: score one hundred and forty two points. All you have
Speaker 2: to do is make sure you don't give up one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty three points. Yes, see, first half triple double
Speaker 2: is crazy. Yeah, Yeahluas Luca had that last night. Yes, yes, Marv.
Speaker 9: I'm with Pauline from this standpoint, everyone takes three pointers
Speaker 9: in the NBA.
Speaker 3: It's like whoa, whoa, who told you you could shoot?
Speaker 3: You know, eighth guy off the bench.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, see.
Speaker 8: We were just talking about the Yukon big man Donovan
Speaker 8: Donovan Klingham being like a dinosaur because he's only a
Speaker 8: big guy. He can't shoot threes.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And Zach Edie, the player of the year. We don't
Speaker 2: even know if he can play in the NBA.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 2: Garza from Iowa was the Big ten Player of the
Speaker 2: Year a couple of years ago.
Speaker 8: Is a dude from Kansas that can shoot though, Oh
Speaker 8: Dickerson who transferred from Michigan.
Speaker 4: He can shoot.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's gigantic, he can shoot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But that's what you have to do.
Speaker 2: There's so many guys that they wouldn't be able to
Speaker 2: play in today's NBA. But you know, you look at
Speaker 2: the Plumbley brothers, Well they may be still playing in
Speaker 2: the NBA. But you have to be able to do
Speaker 2: something yet, you know, offense, it feels like you can't
Speaker 2: be that.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll just let him have the ball, you know.
Speaker 2: And it just feels like these guys who these big
Speaker 2: men who would normally have been able to make the
Speaker 2: transition to go into the NBA. There, they need to
Speaker 2: develop their skills. They need to be able to shoot
Speaker 2: at least an eighteen footer.
Speaker 4: Yem.
Speaker 9: Now, it's a bunch of three and D guys. Yeah,
Speaker 9: that's six ten guy. That would have been a power
Speaker 9: forward in nineteen ninety five. No, no, no, no, just play
Speaker 9: real hard defense and make this open corner three.
Speaker 3: All right, that's it.
Speaker 4: That's what the NBA is. It's three in D.
Speaker 10: Like.
Speaker 3: What's a post like? What's a post play? What's a
Speaker 3: post move?
Speaker 9: There's no Kevin McHale post moves, Carmelo post moved anymore.
Speaker 2: No no dream shake. He's gonna stay on the perimeter. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, let me take a break. We'll come back.
Speaker 2: More phone calls and uh the show. Heyo Tani story
Speaker 2: got really really quiet yesterday. We'll talk about that as well.
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Speaker 3: Case.
Speaker 2: You're wondering the Thursday night prop bets, Bailey Zappy over
Speaker 2: under passing yards?
Speaker 4: Who wants to guess?
Speaker 2: Bailey ZAPPI the Patriots against the Steelers in Pittsburgh tonight.
Speaker 4: Paul one's sixty eight All right, Marvin.
Speaker 2: One's seventy nine, Seaton one seven, Todd one eighty two
Speaker 2: and a half, one fifty six and a half, Mitchell
Speaker 2: Trubisky over under.
Speaker 4: Passing yards tonight, Marvin two oh four, Seatan two twenty four, godd.
Speaker 7: One sixty six and a half, Paul five hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2: Wow, you really have a lot of confidence one hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty and a half passing yards tonight. They're not
Speaker 2: gonna light it up tonight, I don't think. But the
Speaker 2: over under. I think somewhere around eighty percent of the
Speaker 2: bets are on the under, which always makes me nervous.
Speaker 2: Maybe an accidental maybe a defensive touchdown for the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Maybe a close game here that's six points, so you know,
Speaker 2: maybe it's a twenty to fourteen game something like that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, mar is This where Mike Tomlins seek gets real
Speaker 9: hot in Patriots.
Speaker 2: This is this is a must win situation. You have
Speaker 2: to win this game. WHOA yeah the Steelers. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying Mike Tomlin's future. I'm talking about Steelers must
Speaker 2: win this game. Must They're seven and five, must win.
Speaker 2: kJ in Georgia, Hey kJ, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8: Hey?
Speaker 2: Dan uh?
Speaker 10: First time, long time m HM. I just had a comment.
Speaker 12: About the college football playoffs. I was just thinking that
Speaker 12: if they're going you know, the compses are going away
Speaker 12: from the divisions like the East, West or whatever, So
Speaker 12: you're going to have this top two teams for the
Speaker 12: conference championship each year, won't a lot of the NCAA
Speaker 12: just go to eight compasses. You'll have the top two
Speaker 12: teams playing for the championship. That'll be the first round
Speaker 12: of the playoffs. Basically, you'll have a sixteen team playoff
Speaker 12: and then the champions will get seated after that and
Speaker 12: then you don't have to worry about this. Well, they
Speaker 12: do they earn their way?
Speaker 10: Do they?
Speaker 12: You know, do they deserve to be in the playoffs?
Speaker 2: You know, anything that simplifies at kJ, I'm in favor of,
Speaker 2: but we're eventually going to get to this where there's
Speaker 2: going to be x number of teams that are going
Speaker 2: to be able to play for the national championship. That'll
Speaker 2: be sixty schools, fifty schools, forty schools, and then they'll
Speaker 2: divide them up geographically sort of what you know, like
Speaker 2: you have in the NFL. Colleges are going to pay
Speaker 2: the players. I mean, this is all going to happen.
Speaker 2: The question is when does it happen? Yeah, pum, I
Speaker 2: disagree with this caller.
Speaker 7: If college football makes their playoffs too regimented and too automatic,
Speaker 7: that ruins What college football is all about is debates,
Speaker 7: and even though it's ugly and messy, Like if you
Speaker 7: had five Power five conferences and each winner got in
Speaker 7: and then the other what eight spots or it'd be
Speaker 7: seven spots, right, seven spots are up for grabs, then
Speaker 7: there's a lot of debate about those other seven at
Speaker 7: large teams, which is what college football is all about.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but see that's right there. There's already another problem.
Speaker 8: We have to stop with Power five. It either has
Speaker 8: to be Power four or Power six. As soon as
Speaker 8: you do an odd number, things are messed up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but do we want messed up?
Speaker 8: Oh my god, this is the most circular conversation ever.
Speaker 2: It feels like we don't want it when it doesn't
Speaker 2: suit what we what it turns out to be.
Speaker 8: Do we want chaos or do we want to figure
Speaker 8: out who the best teams are? I don't understand what
Speaker 8: the point of all of this is.
Speaker 2: I know it's like we're trying to out smarter ourselves,
Speaker 2: like let's just simplify it and that and that way.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't I don't want to devalue the
Speaker 2: regular season. I want to make sure that those games
Speaker 2: in November are more important than they have been. And
Speaker 2: there's some things that are at stake as far as
Speaker 2: seating goes.
Speaker 4: I mean, they could make this great.
Speaker 2: It just feels like that they've been kind of banging
Speaker 2: into an iceberg here for a long long time, and
Speaker 2: you know, now they're sinking. Now we got to figure
Speaker 2: out now we have the twelve team playoff. But it
Speaker 2: just feels like we're trying so hard when it feels
Speaker 2: like it's right there in front of us where it
Speaker 2: should be simplified, not amplified. Rory and Florida, Hi, Rory, Hello, Hey, Ry, Hey.
Speaker 15: Good morning, guys. I hear everyone debate, and is that
Speaker 15: you saying. I just want to bring a few facts
Speaker 15: to the table here, and could they beat this team
Speaker 15: or that team? I absolutely believe they could beat Alabama.
Speaker 15: Alabama struggled against USN, Alabama had to hail Mary to
Speaker 15: beat a team and got smoked by New Mexico State
Speaker 15: with their quarterback the second string guy. He'll be back
Speaker 15: by the time that the thing was going to happen
Speaker 15: in anyway, So I don't understand. Here's another thub FSU
Speaker 15: has outpassed Michigan in the three games that they've had
Speaker 15: their backup since.
Speaker 2: Well, Michigan is not a passing team. Michigan is a
Speaker 2: running team. Michigan against Penn State, what they do throw
Speaker 2: four passes. They ran the ball the entire time. That's
Speaker 2: what they do. They're not a lighted up offense. Got
Speaker 2: a really good running back. And this is Jim Harball's model.
Speaker 2: That's what he wants to do. Physical, run the football. Yes,
Speaker 2: could Florida State, Yes they could. They beat Alabama. I'm
Speaker 2: sure they could. But this is where it's open to
Speaker 2: interpretation of who are the best teams right now? Are
Speaker 2: you going to keep Alabama out after they beat Georgia.
Speaker 2: I mean Georgia is the one who has a gripe
Speaker 2: because if any of these teams in the final four,
Speaker 2: if I said who would be favored against Georgia, Nobody's
Speaker 2: going to be favored against Georgia. Does that make Georgia
Speaker 2: one of the best four teams? That's where it's subjective.
Speaker 4: I feel bad.
Speaker 2: Florida State did everything they're supposed to do, but the committee,
Speaker 2: it's made up of people, they have an opinion. It's subjective.
Speaker 2: The eye test and the bottom line money