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Speaker 1: Hey friends, Hey step brothers. Good to see you both.

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Speaker 1: Guess what Todfather.

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: Right off the jump here you get to have one

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Speaker 1: up your friend. We spoke yesterday about how Kratz doesn't

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Speaker 1: get invited to certain events. Are another event that Kratz

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Speaker 1: is not invited to. Yeah, called krats is Invited Fest.

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Speaker 1: It's called Kratz Is Not Invited Fest, and it's coming

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Speaker 1: to a farm in Pennsylvania near you. I kid about

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Speaker 1: the location, but the fest is real. It's actually Reds Fest,

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Speaker 1: which is still Kratz is not Invited Fest because he

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Speaker 1: didn't play for the Reds. So we're excited to announce

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Speaker 1: that we'll be making a little stop by you. Todd Father, Me,

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Speaker 1: Danny Graves and not Eric Kratz will be in Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: for a couple of days, January seventeenth and January eighth, eighteenth.

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Speaker 1: We'll play a poker tournament on the seventeenth that's part

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Speaker 1: of Reds Fest that Todd actually won years back, and

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Speaker 1: anyone can entry. You can find out more details. We'll

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Speaker 1: share that soon and then also we'll have a little

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Speaker 1: Q and a panel where I'll ask questions to Todd

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Speaker 1: Father and Danny about the current Reds team and stuff

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Speaker 1: from the past, as well as fan questions.

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Speaker 2: Nice, yeah, no, this Reds f Scott Scott. First off,

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Speaker 2: have you ever been to a fan fest before?

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Speaker 1: I definitely have. I'm just trying to remember which one

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Speaker 1: it was besides the A's fan Fest, which was put

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Speaker 1: on by the A's fans and not by the A's Insanely,

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Speaker 1: that one was incredible. I've been to one other. But

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Speaker 1: they're really good. I mean, they put together a nice show,

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Speaker 1: right they do.

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Speaker 2: Unbelieva' you're gonna be This place is one of the biggest.

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Speaker 2: They just rebuilt the center. I forget what it's called.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, but they just rebuilt it. So it's been

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Speaker 2: two years in the making. They get over twenty thousand

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Speaker 2: people coming to this for these two days, and it's

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Speaker 2: absolutely incredible. You're gonna see past and present players. I

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Speaker 2: mean all the present players should be there, ninety you know,

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Speaker 2: I would say eighty to ninety percent of them. Then

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Speaker 2: you'll get about ten to fifteen older players you know

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Speaker 2: that played there, that people really enjoy. It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: absolutely mayhem. It's a really fun time. I want a

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Speaker 2: poker tournament there. Kratzy over eight eight. Well, Scott, Scott

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Speaker 2: didn't actually bost me up to what really happened. I

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Speaker 2: went in there just to have fun, and all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden winter winter I think it was over eight

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Speaker 2: hundred people there and next thing, so they have a

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Speaker 2: quick break and all the players can you know, if

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Speaker 2: you don't want to do it, you can just get

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Speaker 2: up and leave. I'm like, I'll play a little more.

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Speaker 2: Firsthand it was I had pocket aces, guy had pocket jacks,

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Speaker 2: pocket tens. I'll never forget it. We went all in

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Speaker 2: on the first hand and I had a good him out.

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Speaker 2: I forget what it was. Uh Jack came up eight

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Speaker 2: something else, so he's I'm like, oh whatever. On the

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Speaker 2: turn acerony game over. My stack was here, everybody's there.

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Speaker 2: They were willing me to win, and end up winning

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Speaker 2: on Queen ten. It was pretty magical. I didn't get

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Speaker 2: to keep the money, of course, but it was it

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Speaker 2: was a dream come true. Something I have over you

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Speaker 2: over eight hundred. You've never done that.

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Speaker 3: Confidence is confidence is quietness or quietness is confidence?

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Speaker 1: Online poker trophy every trophies, damn too.

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Speaker 4: Sorry.

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Speaker 2: One day I'm gonna play against you. I'm gonna read

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Speaker 2: you like a darned book. If I have nothing going on,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be incredible. I'm gonna everyone always have something

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Speaker 2: going on.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you got pee wee football, you got

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Speaker 3: pee wee basketball. Facial here today I know I got.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you gave us two hours of your life.

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Speaker 2: I'm ft I gotta leave it three fifteen. I got

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Speaker 2: a gymnastics and that is in New Jersey.

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Speaker 4: We're jumping, we're going.

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Speaker 1: You're doing gymnastics. Now, that's your next career.

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Speaker 2: No, my my daughter's doing gymnastics. She's a meat. I

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Speaker 2: give her a little I give her a little pep

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Speaker 2: talk before I said, listen, lock in lok in.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. She's like, she looks over

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Speaker 4: at your wife and she's like, she does do that.

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Speaker 4: I don't listen to it.

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Speaker 2: She does, but but I know inside I said, listen,

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Speaker 2: you got my blood.

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Speaker 4: Lock it in.

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Speaker 3: So I tell her this is Todd. This is Todd

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Speaker 3: at every gymnastics met Yo. You know I'm you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to get this. No, no, no, I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to get that deal done.

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Speaker 4: It's fine, it's fine, it's fine, You're good. Good job, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: what you say. What did you say?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: No, no, I'm talking on the phone. Yeah what Oh okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'll get a picture. I'll goot pictures.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Scott, he's saying that because I just made a

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Speaker 2: deal down hereteen minutes ago. That's why you're saying every day. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. You just should

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Speaker 4: I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the mayor of Tom's River and maybe one day

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Speaker 1: the mayor or the governor of New Jersey. Who knows

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Speaker 1: this guy knows how a swinging deal. Yeah, Now, don't

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Speaker 1: don't want that, you don't.

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Speaker 2: Want somebody's gonna put a comment up there. I've seen

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Speaker 2: I've seen some athletes trying to be governors.

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Speaker 4: It's really hard to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you. We're not invited,

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Speaker 1: but we love you. But Krats, I'll let you talk

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Speaker 1: first on our first topic.

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Speaker 5: Let's hit it charge.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised to see this, Kratz? I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: a big fan of Michael King, and it's a good

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Speaker 1: the past year is signing him back, So that's good.

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Speaker 1: It just seemed like the Padres were going to have

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Speaker 1: This is awesome if you're Padres fan, Michael king when

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Speaker 1: he's feeling right can pitch game one of a postseason

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Speaker 1: appearance for you. So I think three years, seventy five

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Speaker 3: He might have a larger upside, you know, based on

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Speaker 3: the fact it's not that long of a contract you're

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Speaker 3: re establish his value and it's something that he can

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Speaker 3: he can do that opt out and go get paid again.

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Speaker 3: But this is you know, who's pissed about this signing

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Speaker 3: We're trying to stay under budget. We've heard that from

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Speaker 3: the Padres they have a significant ownership change, a significant

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Speaker 3: is not sure what's going to happen. They couldn't re

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Speaker 3: twenty five million dollar contract. Like you if if all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, everyone's crying poor and the Padres do this,

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Speaker 4: I wonder what's gonna happen to them later, really feel

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Speaker 4: bad for him. This is bad.

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Speaker 3: This is great for baseball, This is bad for everybody

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Speaker 3: who else. It says, we're just really strapped for cash

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Speaker 3: because the Padres, we've heard they've had to do. They

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Speaker 3: have to get rid of Tatist. No, it's not happening, Machado. No,

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Speaker 3: it's not happening. You know, they're looking to quote dump

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Speaker 3: say twenty five million a year because that's what this

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Speaker 3: contract is. Assuming what I assume is gonna happen. Michael King,

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Speaker 2: Then I I was so sad when he left the

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Speaker 2: New York Yankees. I absolutely loved him I love the

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Speaker 4: I love his aura. I love the way he threw

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Speaker 2: His ball moves left and right. He's got a nasty pitch.

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Speaker 4: He holds it.

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Speaker 2: He's got that kind of you know. He reminds me

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Speaker 2: think he's an absolutely fantastic pitcher. I hope he stays healthy.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about his injuries. This is a really good

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Speaker 2: signing for him, and I give san Diego kudos. Man,

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Speaker 2: what the injuries you have still to come back and

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Speaker 2: get this type of deal for you know, Michael king

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Speaker 2: I think this is fantastic. Again, like this, When he

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Speaker 2: he was a top ten pitcher. When he is going,

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Speaker 2: he's cooking. I absolutely love this guy and I think

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Speaker 2: he's a really really good pitcher. Just stay healthy for me,

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Speaker 2: That's all I ask hard to.

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Speaker 4: Do for me.

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Speaker 3: When you talk about him being like the late Roy Holliday, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I caught both of them. Yeah, I caught Kinger when

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Speaker 4: Oh, what do you got? What do you got?

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Speaker 3: He is so locked into what he needed to do,

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Speaker 3: but then he also was like, Hey, what do you

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Speaker 3: see here? And that's what That's what I kept going

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Speaker 3: back to him about how he kind of has that

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Speaker 4: He's more of a.

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Speaker 3: What I would call a horizontal pitcher. That slider goes left,

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Speaker 3: the sinker goes right, and he throws them off and

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Speaker 3: then he was able to start elevating and commanding that

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Speaker 4: And he has stayed true to who he is.

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Speaker 3: He's so meticulous about his scattering reports and all the

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Speaker 3: stuff that he does. That's where I equate him closest

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Speaker 3: to Roy Holliday, to the fact that he knows what

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Speaker 3: do in certain areas to certain hitters and in the

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Speaker 3: minor leagues. That was that was awesome, and I saw

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Speaker 3: it then translate to the big LEAs. One of the

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Speaker 3: things I remember about Kinger I was in Triple A

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Speaker 3: with him and I would get on the mic and

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Speaker 3: I would, you know, I would talk smack to dudes,

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Speaker 3: and and it was time to call Michael King up,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, Kinger, I got more. I got

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Speaker 3: more big league strikeouts than you because I had I

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Speaker 4: But it was more of one of those things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't know he's gonna make twenty five million dollars,

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Speaker 3: But this dude, he's got it.

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Speaker 4: He's got that. I think it's the difference.

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Speaker 3: He's got one of the largest differences in his sinker

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Speaker 3: and his slider or sweeper whatever they call it now

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Speaker 3: it's horizontal whatever differentiation.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the word is. But you're right,

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Speaker 4: and he's legit.

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Speaker 2: You know when I said Rohaldy, his mannerisms, the way

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Speaker 2: he pitches, you know, Row, there's exceptional picture, right right,

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Speaker 3: Games for you, because right now Paveta's starting Game one,

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Speaker 2: Huge, and and just to finish that off, like if

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Speaker 1: And for the Padres, they now have three playoff starters

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Speaker 1: senior insider, Ken, can you tell us what you know.

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Speaker 5: The Tampa Bay Rays have been very busy today, but

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 5: The Rays are in the middle of two of these deals,

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Speaker 5: And the bigger trade, the more interesting one in some

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Speaker 5: the Astros. That's one in which the Pirates are getting

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Speaker 5: Mike Burrows, starting pitcher with six years of control. I'm

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Speaker 5: sorry the Astros are getting Burrows. The Pirates are getting

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, so the three team trade.

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Speaker 3: Obviously the Pirates get a major upgrade here, they lose

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Speaker 3: When was the first time you started hearing about this?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm not going to exactly explain how we found

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Speaker 5: not that this is that's serious. It's baseball. It's not

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Speaker 4: But regardless of.

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Speaker 5: Derek, these things are difficult to complete, and teams will

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Speaker 5: The Rays in some ways are the most interesting here

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Speaker 5: the extent of conversations that we've witnessed here, ultimately, that

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Speaker 2: Shane Boss I love the guy to death, played with

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Speaker 5: what else they did. This is a much more representative,

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Speaker 5: aggressive team. We're seeing. They've really improved the offense with

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Speaker 5: Ward and Alonso, and they've also improve the pitching really

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Speaker 5: top to bottom with Baz and the Hellsley and Kittridge.

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Speaker 5: So they're interesting right now, and I don't expect that

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Speaker 5: they're done yet.

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Speaker 3: Isn't this just Grayson Rodriguez from the race, Like, didn't

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Speaker 3: they have Grace Ronriguez.

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Speaker 4: I know they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Now they have Taylor Ward and essentially getting Grayson Rodriguez

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Speaker 3: back with Shane Boz. But is this also signifying the

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Speaker 3: end for getting starting pitching for the Orioles.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that. That's my question right now, Eric,

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Speaker 5: and that's when I plan to ask today. I don't

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Speaker 5: expect that it is, but certainly this gives them now

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Speaker 5: what teams often call a floor to go forward. They

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Speaker 5: have pieces in place. They're in a pretty good spot.

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Speaker 5: If they got one more, all the better. Let's say

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Speaker 5: they got fromer Valdez. I'm not saying they will, but

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Speaker 5: my gosh, if they got him on top of Baz

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Speaker 5: and all the other things that they've done, that would

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Speaker 5: be a mammoth off season. Now you ask about Grayson Rodriguez.

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Speaker 5: The difference between Shane Baz and Grayson Rodriguez is that

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Speaker 5: Shane bas was healthy last year thirty one star TJ

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Speaker 5: September twenty twenty two, missed all of twenty three, came

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Speaker 5: back in twenty four, and then last year was his

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Speaker 5: first full season back. So he is someone that they

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Speaker 5: feel they can rely on from a health standpoint, and

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Speaker 5: Grayson Rodriguez was not. Grayson Rodriguez, as we all know,

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Speaker 5: has the potential to be a top of the rotation guy,

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Speaker 5: but he has to be healthy with the Angels for

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Speaker 5: that to happen, and we haven't seen that happen for

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Speaker 5: him in a while.

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Speaker 1: And ken last thing on boz here, I mean projected

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Speaker 1: to make three million dollars this year, So if you're

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Speaker 1: an Orioles fan, you should be excited by the fact

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Speaker 1: that they didn't really spend much on a guy who

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Speaker 1: should be in the rotation. I don't want to say

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Speaker 1: they're buying low, but the RA number was high this

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Speaker 1: past season. Your colleague, you know, Cyrus among others, have

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Speaker 1: pointed out some elite stuff plus pitch numbers, etc. That

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Speaker 1: there's high upside here, but they should have the room.

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Speaker 1: You would figure if they planned on spending pretty big

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Speaker 1: on pitching. They really didn't spend much on this guy

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Speaker 1: besides prospects No.

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Speaker 5: The prospect return was big, and there's no question about that.

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Speaker 5: And we've seen that too with the other trade today,

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Speaker 5: the Mike Burrows trade. Ultimately there were a lot of

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Speaker 5: prospects or a lot of players going back to Pittsburgh

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Speaker 5: for him. So yes, for starting pitching, controllable starting pitching,

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Speaker 5: you're going to pay a premium. One thing about Boz

484
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Speaker 5: that Andy Costka of the Baltimore Banner pointed out on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: His numbers away from Steinbrenner Field last year were much

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Speaker 5: better than they were in that makeshift environment for the

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Speaker 5: Tampa Bay Rays. So that's something for the Oils to

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Speaker 5: look forward to. And I imagine because he was the

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Speaker 5: twelfth pick in the draft and Mike Elias at that time,

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Speaker 5: I believe, was still running the draft for the Astros.

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Speaker 5: I'm guessing Mike Elias liked him out of the draft

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Speaker 5: and always remembered that. And now if that's the case,

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Speaker 5: he gets his man.

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Speaker 3: How about the Matt Strom trade for Jonathan Boland to

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Speaker 3: the Royals. Strom had been with the Royals and now

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Speaker 3: he's going back. I have a hard time believing that

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Speaker 3: the Phillies didn't think Matt Strom was a good piece

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Speaker 3: to have in their bullpen. Was there more to this

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Speaker 3: in the sense of, like, well, we have Tanner Banks

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Speaker 3: and we have Jose Alvarado this year, so we have

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Speaker 3: two lefties. But was there more to this than just, oh,

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Speaker 3: we got to get some money off of the table

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Speaker 3: for the Phillies or was it really a desire to

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Speaker 3: have Jonathan Bolan.

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Speaker 4: Join their team.

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Speaker 5: Well, the Athletics back gel reported today that there was

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Speaker 5: some friction between Strom and some of the Phillies people

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Speaker 5: coaching staff, whoever might be. Matt Strom is a guy

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Speaker 5: with strong opinions. He's really smart, he's really good too,

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Speaker 5: so that perhaps contributed to it. But he was a

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Speaker 5: name that we were hearing and reporting was going to

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Speaker 5: be possibly moved from the start of the offseason. They

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Speaker 5: feel pretty comfortable, as you mentioned, with their left handed

514
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Speaker 5: depth in the bullpen. And yes, they cleared the money.

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Speaker 5: It's about a seven million dollars savings that will help

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Speaker 5: them in other pursuits should they care to pursue some

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Speaker 5: other things. What was more interesting from this trades perspective

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Speaker 5: was the Royals taking on that money because I've heard

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Speaker 5: that they were kind of almost at their limit, and

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Speaker 5: I would expect that there are going to be other

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Speaker 5: moves that they make, perhaps shedding some payroll to get

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Speaker 5: to where they want to be.

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Speaker 1: From that perspective, Ken, good stuff and what a day

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Speaker 1: so far. Three trades. We'll take it, Winter meetings whenever

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Speaker 1: it wants to happen with the quasi what holiday deadline

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Speaker 1: coming up? Here will be glued to what you're putting

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Speaker 1: out there in the athletic and on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Ken, Thanks guys.

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Speaker 6: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Pond's from Baseball America joining us right now, and

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Speaker 1: I mean we called the bat phone to bring them

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Speaker 1: on because of all the trade action here and it's

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Speaker 1: been happening during the show. So Jeff, let's get to it.

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Speaker 1: And let's start with the Shane boge strade because apparently

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Speaker 1: there were quite a few teams in on trying to

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Speaker 1: trade for him, and the winning bid goes to the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Orioles. So how did they do with what they

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Speaker 1: gave up and with what the Tampa Bay Rays were

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Speaker 1: able to haul in?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's it's such a contrast to see

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Speaker 6: that four years of Grayson Rodriguez moved for you know,

542
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Speaker 6: a year of Taylor Ward and three years of sa

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Speaker 6: Shane Boz, who you can argue has maybe had less

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Speaker 6: major league success than than Rodriguez. Kind of depends on

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Speaker 6: how you view that. Obviously the injury, but it's not

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Speaker 6: like Boz has been, you know, the picture of health

547
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Speaker 6: throughout his professional career either. But they this is a

548
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Speaker 6: pretty sizable return back to the Raids Michael Farrett. You know,

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Speaker 6: this is a system that has i'll say maybe less

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Speaker 6: brand name pitching pictures that maybe have a little bit

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Speaker 6: less pedigree than some of the guys are the top

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Speaker 6: of the top one hundred list, But Michael Farrett, pound

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Speaker 6: for pound, is one of the most underrated pitchers I

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Speaker 6: think in the minors the guys like six or seven

555
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Speaker 6: pitch shapes. Has got like two different change up grips,

556
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Speaker 6: really mixes it up, throws a lot of strikes. I

557
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Speaker 6: thought was a really nice scouting find by the Orioles.

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Speaker 6: So he's a guy that you get him into into,

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Speaker 6: you know, the raised pitching development. They developed strike throwers

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Speaker 6: I think as well as anybody in the game, and

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Speaker 6: just knowing how to zone different pitch shapes and kind

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Speaker 6: of utilize deep arsenals. It'd be really interesting to come

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Speaker 6: back to this in a year and see what Frett is.

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Speaker 6: And then they add a high upside, you know, first

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Speaker 6: round type of talent from this most recent draft in

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Speaker 6: Slator to Brunn Kaden Bodine, who was probably one of

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Speaker 6: the best defensive catchers in the draft. The guy I

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Speaker 6: think is going to stick behind the plate offensively. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's it's maybe more of like a contact overpower profile.

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Speaker 6: He's not necessarily somebody's going to hit for big power,

571
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Speaker 6: but a switch hitting catcher that makes a ton of contact,

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Speaker 6: it's a pretty valuable piece. Then you add Austin Overn

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Speaker 6: who you know, really good athlete, follow him during his

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Speaker 6: time at USC and then when he was down here

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Speaker 6: on the Cape. I think he actually played for your team,

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Speaker 6: the Chatham as Scott But I mean a guy that

577
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Speaker 6: can play all three outfield positions, pretty athletics, speedy, makes

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Speaker 6: a fair amount of contact. The power is starting to

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Speaker 6: climb a little bit over the last couple of years.

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Speaker 6: He's making a little bit more impact. That's a really

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Speaker 6: interesting profile. And then a competitive balanced you know pick

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Speaker 6: on top of it, like that's a lot of prospect

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Speaker 6: capital because you also kind of have that mystery box

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Speaker 6: at the end it's like, oh, yeah, by the way,

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Speaker 6: this is going to tip it over the scales. Now,

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Speaker 6: I understand why the Orioles did this. They have surplus,

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Speaker 6: it's a deep system. Again, they've done a good job

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Speaker 6: of targeting players in the draft using you know, the

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Speaker 6: prospect or draft capital they've had from some of the

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Speaker 6: guys that have walked over the last couple of years

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Speaker 6: to kind of rebuild this farm system. But same time,

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Speaker 6: this is this is a pretty sizable payment for a

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Speaker 6: guy in Shane Boss, who I think still has some

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Speaker 6: question marks as to how effective he's going to be

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Speaker 6: as kind of that mid rotation kind of arm that

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Speaker 6: the Oriole are looking for.

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Speaker 4: But they didn't dig deep into the Orioles.

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Speaker 3: The Orioles high picks or I mean the Orioles high prospects.

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Speaker 4: So does this really make a dent or is it

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Speaker 4: just maybe like.

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Speaker 3: A flesh wound to the system Because it was so

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Speaker 3: many it's like, well, I hope one of these guys

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Speaker 3: pans out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think if you're the Orioles, you're doing this

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Speaker 6: ten times out of ten. If you're an Orioles fan,

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Speaker 6: you're also happy about this trade, you know, I think,

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Speaker 6: you know, just into the contrast with the Grayson thing

608
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Speaker 6: is really what I was saying more but it's it's

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Speaker 6: it's a fair amount of pieces. Is it gonna hurt

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Speaker 6: the Orioles long term?

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Speaker 2: Probably not.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that in a year, even if a

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Speaker 6: couple of these guys like Fret or Debrun end up

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Speaker 6: popping and turning into above average big leaguers, that you're

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Speaker 6: going to regret this trade, unless Shane Boss is really bad.

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Speaker 6: I don't anticipate that being the case. And frankly, this

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Speaker 6: is the kind of trade that I know, Scott, when

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Speaker 6: we talk about Orioles rebuild, we've kind of been banging

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Speaker 6: the drum of like, go out there and acquire some pitching.

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Speaker 6: They acquire a young pitcher who's got al East experience.

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Speaker 6: He's pitched in some of those big games. You know,

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Speaker 6: was in the playoffs as a rookie. People kind of

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Speaker 6: forget that prior to his injuries. So, you know, I

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Speaker 6: think there's a lot of good here. Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you regret this trader for the Orioles,

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Speaker 6: or that it's going to be more than, as you said,

627
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Speaker 6: a flesh wound.

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Speaker 2: There's another big trade that went on a three team,

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Speaker 2: or we call it the Sizzler. Scooter just told me

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Speaker 2: talk about the Rays and who they picked up. We

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Speaker 2: talked about outfielder Jacob Melton, how he's probably a little

632
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Speaker 2: bit closer of getting to the big leagues than Anderson Brito.

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Speaker 2: But talk a little bit about both of those guys

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Speaker 2: and where you see them stack up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm glad we just turned it into our

636
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Speaker 6: prospect handbook and this trade happened after the transaction deadline.

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Speaker 6: I read the Astros and it's not the most talented system,

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Speaker 6: so I would have been really digging for twenty ninth

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Speaker 6: and thirtieth prospects. So good job guys and getting this

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Speaker 6: one in when you did. But one of the teams

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Speaker 6: that I so I talk to teams outside the organization

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Speaker 6: with any of the four hand book chapters that I write,

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Speaker 6: because we're trying to get that sort of global perspective

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Speaker 6: from scouts of like how do you view these players?

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Speaker 6: I don't just want to hear what the team thinks

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Speaker 6: of their own players, and we know that you know,

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Speaker 6: teams don't always fully tell the truth. The Rays were

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Speaker 6: one of the teams I talked to. I can tell

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Speaker 6: you that they actually had Brito as the top prospect

650
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Speaker 6: in the race system, so excuse me, in the astro system.

651
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 6: So this isn't a shock that he was included. They'd

652
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 6: like him quite a bit. He pops on all their

653
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 6: stuff models. It was kind of a three player conversation

654
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 6: at the top. Brito ends up being three. Melton was

655
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 6: the one. But some of the feedback I got on Brito,

656
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 6: I mean, outside of him being undersized, he's listed at

657
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 6: five to eleven. Whether he's actually five eleven or not,

658
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 6: we'll see once he gets up with the big leagues.

659
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 6: But I mean it is plus fastball, low release height,

660
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 6: big vert, really unique plane, and it's sitting ninety five

661
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 6: to ninety seven miles an hour, maybe tops out ninety nine.

662
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 6: I don't think he's hit triple digits yet, but it's it.

663
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 6: I mean, it's filthy stuff, and he's thrown it for strikes,

664
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 6: like really understands the pitchability element of it. It's a

665
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 6: good change up, it's a good curveball. He's got a

666
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 6: couple of different slider shapes. He's a really interesting one

667
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 6: that we could look back and this could be the

668
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 6: biggest acquisition that they made today. Now, Melton probably a

669
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 6: guy that can plug and play right away. I think

670
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 6: an upgrade from Jank Meghum. I mean, not any knock

671
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 6: to Jank Meghum at all, you know, Mississippi State legend,

672
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 6: but more power with Melton. Just as much speed, maybe

673
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 6: more applicable speed as a base runner than we even

674
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 6: got with Mengham. And he can play all three outfield

675
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 6: positions at an above average level. Not a high walk guy,

676
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 6: a little bit more of an aggressive approach, but it's

677
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 6: good bats of ball skills. And I mean he's always

678
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 6: hit dating back to when he was at Oregon State.

679
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 6: Should be a plug and play every day guy for

680
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 6: the Rays right away.

681
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: Jeff, you don't plan you don't plan to travel to

682
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: South Carolina, dude, because you cannot speak like that about

683
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 3: Jake Magnum.

684
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 6: Okay, I drove, I drove on the alls during the

685
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 6: going down to the All Star Game. But I'm up

686
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 6: here in the Northeast, so I think I think I'm guarded.

687
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: But sure, put the tint. Put the tint through when

688
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: you go through South Carolina. If you do that again,

689
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: if you say stuff like that, I want to talk

690
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: about the Brito when they trade for a guy like

691
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 3: this and in the land of stuff plus in the

692
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: land of all these things, and you have a five

693
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: ten I think is generous, and you're talking he's below

694
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: one sixty five, maybe even in the waight category. When

695
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: you talk about that and you see a guy that

696
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 3: the Rays pick up that had forty nine innings, is

697
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: that a concern for the team picking them up? The

698
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: fact that he has no workload even though he's twenty

699
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 3: like the way you're talking about him, the way you're

700
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: replacing Brandon Law, who has you know, up there in

701
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: a franchise home run leader for the Rays. Ever you're

702
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: replacing this guy, is it more of the hope we

703
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 3: get two years out of him that are an elite

704
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: level or is it the we can create something out

705
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: of a very unique body type that we'd rarely see

706
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 3: have success in the big leagues.

707
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you know, there's an element of risk here,

708
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 6: just simply because we've seen so many of these guys.

709
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 6: And I mean, I don't care how good your stuff is.

710
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 6: I mean even guys who are a little bit bigger,

711
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 6: like a Jake excuse me, Jack Lighter right, who had

712
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 6: big stuff like this, similar attributes on the fastball. He's

713
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 6: probably six feet six 't one, so he's probably a

714
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 6: few inches taller than Brito, and it's just it's hard

715
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 6: to bank on those guys consistently staying healthy. It was

716
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 6: a shoulder injury too that cost him some time this year,

717
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 6: so that's you have a concern. And he's a guy

718
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 6: that signed for ten thousand dollars in November of twenty

719
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 6: twenty three. At the time of signing, he was like

720
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 6: low nineties and by the next spring was popping ninety

721
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 6: nine one hundred miles an hour on the backfield, so

722
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 6: there was a huge jump in terms of stuff. He's strong,

723
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 6: but it is a smaller body. You do worry how that,

724
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 6: how that holds up. So you know, I kind of

725
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 6: said it is it's like you got your your Pedro Martinez,

726
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 6: like a wicket high upside, like small right hander, and

727
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 6: then you also got your your Davy Garcia, who's like, yeah,

728
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 6: the stuff was really really good. He was a highly

729
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 6: ranked prospect, and then you know, the body started to

730
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 6: back up and he was just never kind of able

731
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 6: to regain that athleticism and movement that he had previously.

732
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 6: That's a big part of it is you know, so

733
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 6: much of these guys, you know, physical frames has to

734
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 6: go into generating that velocity that it's tough to kind

735
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 6: of be that you know, six foot four, easy cheese

736
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 6: guy like a Mitch Keller or somebody who just looks

737
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 6: he's he's playing catch out there and you know, slapping

738
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 6: the mid at ninety five and ninety seven like that.

739
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 6: You just you don't see an undersized guy like that,

740
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 6: and Brito certainly doesn't fit to that. So yeah, there's

741
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 6: a ton of risk in that sense. But I think that,

742
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 6: you know, the Rays are probably willing to take on

743
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 6: some pitching risk, and we've seen that with them kind

744
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 6: of throughout their history.

745
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about this. Who was it in? Was

746
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: it Luis Patino? I'm forgetting the name? Remember Padres?

747
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that was one.

748
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know where he's at. Yeah, all right,

749
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: he might be in Mexico now, Yeah, but I mean, man,

750
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: we were talking him up big in the past. All right,

751
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: last one for you, Jeff before we jump, because it

752
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: sounds like Murkkammy is going to sign this weekend. I

753
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: know that's not necessarily totally your game, but in terms

754
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: of what you're studying on a day to day basis.

755
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: But just while we have you and our fans have

756
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: been asking about it all show, and it's just been

757
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: so busy with trades and news and all of that.

758
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: So they have any thoughts either from you know, what

759
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: you've viewed yourself or from what you've read from your

760
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: colleagues about what could shake down really this weekend with Murakami.

761
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the market's going to be very interesting.

762
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: I could see him signing with a team that usually

763
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: doesn't sign a Japanese talent. It just seems like there's

764
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: so much dissension across the industry about him specifically. The

765
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: other guys have a little more time to sign. Murakami

766
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: has to sign by Monday night.

767
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, and actually I am the right guy because I

768
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 6: do all of our NPB and kb O repoorts, so

769
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 6: have done some work, have talked to some scouts over there,

770
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 6: have talked to some front office people about Murakami, have

771
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 6: talked to some agents out there over the last week

772
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 6: about Murakami. It seems like the market is a lot

773
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 6: softer than I think Mourakami or his representation had necessarily

774
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 6: expected when he came over. Teams are really really suspect

775
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 6: of the lack of plate skills there, how the bats

776
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 6: of all ability is going to translate, and how frequently

777
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 6: he's going to be able to get to that power.

778
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 6: I think that, you know, we've heard that there's kind

779
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 6: of this Kyle Schwarber esque sort of upside, and I

780
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 6: think like from a raw power perspective, certainly there is

781
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 6: from like a lack of a defensive position perspective, that's

782
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 6: probably a pretty good comp But I don't know if

783
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 6: he's ever going to hit like Kyle Schwarber. Frankly, you know,

784
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 6: I don't know if the hit tool was there. It

785
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 6: was a lot of swing and miss. It's bottom one

786
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 6: percent in NPB. We'll see how that translates to the

787
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 6: United States. It is good swing decisions. He's, you know,

788
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 6: a three true outcome kind of a hitter. But you

789
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 6: could be talking about a guy his first year here

790
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 6: who hits you know, two twenty or lowered like a

791
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 6: buck ninety with maybe a ten or eleven percent walk

792
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 6: rate and some power that has stretches that are really

793
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 6: really good and then other stretches that are a little

794
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 6: bit worse, and then you have questions about you probably

795
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 6: can't play him at third base. He's not a very

796
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 6: good first basement, so you're kind of locking your self

797
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 6: in the air with a low contact, low batting average

798
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 6: DH and I think teams, though they value impact and

799
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 6: they value power hitting, they do still value contact. They

800
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 6: still value you not being an absolute hole in the

801
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 6: lineup for long stretches, and I think that's what the

802
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 6: concern is with Murakami. I believe that the Padres have

803
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 6: had some meetings. I don't know, if you know, the

804
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 6: song signing from Korea today maybe offsets that a little bit.

805
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 6: He's a first base, third base, second base guy, so

806
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 6: kind of fits a similar role. It might have just

807
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 6: been a matter of them kicking the tires because he

808
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 6: was affordable. So it'll be really really interesting to see

809
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 6: where Murakami ends up. I don't think he's gonna end

810
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 6: up getting long term the year's long term or the

811
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 6: big dollars that a lot of people were anticipating when

812
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 6: you know it was announced that he would probably be

813
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 6: posted back in twenty three twenty four.

814
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the way you're describing it almost sounds like he

815
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: comes over here and signs a deal that enables him

816
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: to hit free agency again. Since he's still very young.

817
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: Prove himself in the bigs, and then you can cash

818
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: out and for a GM out there, they're either going

819
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: to look really good or really really bat and on

820
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: something like this because of how different it could look

821
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: when it comes over to the major leagues. Yeah, maybe Crats,

822
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: maybe maybe DH.

823
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: For the Pirates.

824
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 5: We got a job.

825
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: But Jeff, here's the thing, we're gonna talk more. I

826
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: think Jeff's gonna be on with us on Monday, So

827
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: if you are, then we'll be all over this because

828
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: we'll know where Murder Comedy signs. At that point we

829
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 1: can talk more about song and everything else. So Jeff,

830
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: thanks for popping on with us last minute. Have a

831
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: great weekend, and maybe talk to you next week on

832
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: Monday for Hot Sheet.

833
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 6: Probably Yeah, well I'll be there.

834
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: Text JJ tell him I want you on that we

835
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: want to chat. So okay, it sounds good. Thank you, Jeff,

836
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: appreciate you.

837
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 5: Man.

838
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: All right, so let's hit end a show, let's flappands.

839
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: Let me rip through some news here. We'll start with

840
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: Sam Blum breaking news that there is officially a settlement

841
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: in the Skags Angels wrongful death trial. This case was

842
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: filed four and a half years ago. Tyler Skaggs died

843
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: six and a half years ago. This trial lasted three months.

844
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: Sam said a motion in the courtroom as the plaintiffs

845
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: signed the deal. Terms not disclosed, and maybe next week

846
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: we can get more information on what it ended up

847
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: happening there. I've been following this case as closely as

848
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: possible from a public standpoint of seeing what Sam puts

849
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: out there, and it sounded like the jury was asking

850
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: for more info on how much money they could assign.

851
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: It like it almost sounded like the jury was hinting

852
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: that they were going to go the skag side. And

853
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: so maybe that leads to this settlement that pops up here.

854
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: But I'm speculating we'll get to more next week. Next up,

855
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: John means from you guys, if you want to just

856
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: give him a wish you well, since he's going to

857
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: go through some tough rehab now with a ruptured achilles.

858
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: He really has not been able to get back on

859
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: the field consistently. So he had successful surgery and now

860
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: he's going to make another run to try and get

861
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: back and Todd father Zach Britain had that the rupture

862
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: achilles member man, I think it was either the year

863
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: or the year after the bangor season and then he

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Speaker 1: goes down. So you can recover from that, but it

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Speaker 1: just sucks. John Means dealt with a lot and.

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Speaker 2: He was supposed to sign a deal too. I think

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Speaker 2: that's the hardest part. He had everything set in stone,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's the tough part that from training.

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Speaker 2: Ah man. Yeah, that's gonna hurt every which way. Man.

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for the guy, wish him well, and

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Speaker 2: I hope the speedy recovery. You can get back on

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Speaker 2: the hump there and find another team man for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean this is why you understand that your career

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Speaker 3: is short. It's fine, it's not. It's like you put

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Speaker 3: everything you have into it because stuff like this happens.

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Speaker 3: He was ready to go, healthiest offseason that he's had

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Speaker 3: in a long time, and another setback. But he's resilient.

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Speaker 3: He clearly has his priorities in order, and you hope

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Speaker 3: that he gets back and he's better than he was before,

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Speaker 3: because that's tough. That's tough, especially when this kind of

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Speaker 3: stuff happens around Christmas Thanksgiving. You're sitting there like, ah man,

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Speaker 3: I put all this into it, and your family's around,

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Speaker 3: hopefully they're there to support him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Orioles fans love him. Just super likable guy.

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Speaker 1: So we'll try and get him on at some point

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Speaker 1: like we do. And then on the way out, just

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Speaker 1: one more reminder with where we started off the two

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Speaker 1: hour journey today, since I felt like we went in

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Speaker 1: a million directions, Todd Father, if there's one thing you

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Speaker 1: learned today, I just want you to know this. You're

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Speaker 1: going to Cincinnati. Aircrafts is not Danny Graves is going.

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Speaker 1: We're hitting up Reds Fest. We're partying, we're chatting with

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Speaker 1: the fans, we're playing poker, and we're doing a little

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Speaker 1: qat Q and a on Sunday in a litld meat

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Speaker 1: and greet there in January. I'm bringing it up now,

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Speaker 1: a few weeks in advance in case anybody's trying to

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Speaker 1: make some plans and they want to hang out with us.

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Speaker 1: So just remind him red Legs, Yes, mister red leg

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Speaker 1: not Krats. But we'll see you both on Monday