1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: My name is Robert lamp and my name is Julie Douglas, 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: and we are back with our final sin in our 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: series of seven Deadly sins. I think it's fitting that 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: it's Slot. Yes, we say the best one. Well, we 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: say one of them per last, and got to it finally, yeah, finally, 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: after we sat on the couch in potato chips for months. Um, yeah, 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about slot. Let's uh, let's talk about 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: it in the context of our friend Dante. Yeah. The 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: interesting thing about slot is that, but before you really 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: get into it it youve initially think, oh, slot, laziness, 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: that's easy. But it's actually a little more uneven than that. 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: You know. It's like it depends on who's defining slot 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: exactly what it is. You go back and you look 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: at accounts of it in the medieval Christian Church, and 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: you do see it in terms of this disinclination to 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: use labor and to exert yourself in a very you know, 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: physical means. But then you also have drug of doctors 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: and saints like Thomas Aquinas who called it sadness in 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: the face of spiritual good which one has to achieve. 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: So you see it also defines to this kind of 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: spiritual or emotional apathy. Yeah, I saw it in the 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: context of a moral failing, a combination of alienation and 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: tedium with a little self contempt thrown in. And it 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: afflicted jaded monks who had tired of the cloistered life. 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: And so it was a sin because they were actually 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: turning away from their moral obligations and towards selfish pursuits. 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: It was termed buy the Discovered Magazines article. I didn't sin, 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: it was my brain as a monistic form of on. 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: We well in Dante's Inferno there and I think we 32 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: mentioned this already. There's no circle of sloth per se. 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: But as we discussed in Wrath, we we do wind 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: up on the river sticks with good old Dante and Virgil. 35 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: As we're moving across this slimy, swampy just horrible muck 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: fest that is stick, we see that there are bubbles 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: rising up to the surface. They're rising up from the bottom, 38 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: and that is where the sullen are. The river Sticks 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: has the sullen, and they have the wrathful the wrathful 40 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: are over there, biting and punching and douging it out 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: on the surface, and the sullen are submerged in the 42 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: bottom of this horrible slimy like they're down there. Yeah, 43 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: they're They're pouting, they're gargling, these mock prayers up through 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: the waters. It's the idea that it's anger expressed in 45 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: two ways. Here with the wrathful, it's anger that's it's outward, 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: it's like I hate everything, gonna punch everything in the face. 47 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: And then here it's anger that is inverted, that's pushes 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: inward on the person, crushing them under the weights. Anger. Yeah. 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna read a quick bit from a translation 50 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: of Dante and Frona, just to give you a little 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: taste of the sullen and sticks. Here, my kind master said, son, 52 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: now behold the souls of those whom Anger vanquished. And 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: I would have you believe too, as a certainty, that 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: under the water are people who are sighing, making the 55 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: water bubble at the surface. As your eye will tell 56 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: you wherever it turns fixed in the mind, or they say, 57 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: we will gloomy in the sweet air, and the sun 58 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: makes us glad, bearing within us the fumes of sullenness. 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: Now we languish in the black slime. This hymn they 60 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: gurgle in their throats, for they cannot fully form the words. 61 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: So we wound about a large arc of the filthy swamp, 62 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: between the dry bank and the wetness. Our eyes turned 63 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: on those whose swallow mud. We came to the foot 64 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: of a tower at the last. And that's from the 65 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: version of Inferno that is edited and translated by Robert M. Durling, 66 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: which I highly recommend. I think it's really cool. Translation, 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: has a lot of interesting notes that really illuminate this 68 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: fascinating text. And if you travel into Dante's purgatory, it's 69 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: a little less interesting. There is a terrace, the fourth 70 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: race of purgatory, and again purgatory is in Dante's Divine Comedy, 71 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: is this mountain that connects the earth to Heaven. And 72 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: if you're you're not bad enough for hell, but you're 73 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: not good enough for Heaven, you're gonna have to work 74 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: off your sins and polish yourself up before you can 75 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: actually walk through the doorf heaven. So on the fourth 76 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: level of Purgatory, you work off all that sloth, and 77 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: here the slothful. They were slothful in life, and now 78 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: they're showing great vigor, running around and circles on this terrace, 79 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: shouting various famous examples of slothful behavior and the opposite virtue, 80 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: which Dante definds a decisive zeal. So in life, these 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: people really didn't care about anything, and they weren't really 82 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: applying themselves. So to work it off, their shouting and 83 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: running around, and they're they're screaming all these examples of 84 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: of horrible sloth, but also examples of what they should 85 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: have been doing, which is just getting really zealous about 86 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: something important. So before they were gulping mud, and now 87 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: they're just running around like maniacs. Yeah, and real quickly, 88 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: I'm going to head east for a second and just 89 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: point out that in Buddhism, sloth or torpor is one 90 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: of the five hindrances that interfere with meditation, along with 91 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: sensual desire, ill will, restlessness, and remorse and doubt. And 92 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: according to sam KaiA, one of the six orthodox systems 93 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: of Hindu philosopy, the there are three primal qualities of matter. Okay, 94 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: the highest one is something called satva, which is illumination, 95 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: enlightened knowledge, and lightness. And then there's one called Rajas, 96 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: which is energy, passion and expansiveness. And the third is 97 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: Thomas or darkness, and this is obscurity, ignorance, and inertia. 98 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: So in this idea we see the idea of sloth 99 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: as it relates to physical reality, but then that's also 100 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: sometimes applied to our inner realities as well well. And 101 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: I think that sloth is interesting because it's one of those, 102 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: again sins that doesn't seem so bad, so you kind 103 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: of have to wonder, well, why is it such a problem. 104 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: In the church traditions especially, you see it defined as 105 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: a capital sin, meaning that it's a sin that leads 106 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: to other sins. So you start off as just being 107 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: a lazy and slothful, the next thing you know, you're 108 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: being lustful or you're you know, you're doing something worse. 109 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: It's like a gateway sin, according to some of the commentators. Well, 110 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: there's also this idea that sloft is a sin because 111 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: it contributes to the individual's failure to achieve achieve his 112 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: or her future her true self expression right sit in 113 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: this regard is really important because time is of the essence, right, 114 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: we are a time limited creature here on this earth. 115 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: We live, we die, And so the thought is that 116 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: if you're engaging in sloth all the time, then you're 117 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: wasting this precious gift or these moments in which you 118 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: could again be achieving something that sort of transcends yourself. Right, 119 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: whether you're looking at your time on Earth and your 120 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: existence here is a gift from some sort of divine 121 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: being or just an accident of evolution, there's no denying 122 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: that there is a finite amount of time in which 123 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: to achieve something. And if you put any value on 124 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: achieving anything, then at the end of the day, you've 125 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: you've got to look at yourself and say, like, Wow, 126 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: what did I actually get done today? And if the 127 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: answer is not much or nothing, then perhaps oh I 128 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: was even thinking. In the context of Lawrence Krass, like 129 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: we've talked about him and what he talks about in 130 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: terms of supernova's dying and that material spewing fourth actually 131 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: creating the Earth and how you know, the nitrogen, carbon dioxide, 132 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: all these different things that um, you know, are actually 133 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: in our own bodies are a result of the supernova's 134 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, blasting into little bits and shards, and when 135 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: you think about it, that when you're like, wow, I 136 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: am sitting here, living and breathing because of these incredible 137 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: things that have happened in the universe. Yeah, that makes 138 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: Slot feel really like, like pretty awful. Actually, it's kind 139 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: of if you were looking at the timeline someone's like, 140 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: and then a star exploded and this matter traveled across 141 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: the universe and then for a little bit there, uh, 142 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: it was embodied in this person who hate potato chips. 143 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: But but what fascinates me too about Slot is that 144 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: by some of these definitions, it's not necessarily just that 145 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: guy that's setting on the couch eaven potato chips and 146 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: doing nothing. You could have that guy who's living a 147 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: very active life, a very busy life. You know, he's 148 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: running in the morning, then he goes to his banking 149 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: job or whatever. Then he comes back more running, uh, 150 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: you know than socializing. But then at the to the day, 151 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: has he done anything emotionally or spiritually that isn't selfish? 152 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: You know? Like it's that I think we a lot 153 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: of us have that kind of realization in our lives 154 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: at different points where we're like we look at ourselves 155 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: and we wonder, am I really contributing that much that 156 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: is good to the world, Am I doing something that 157 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: is that is that is worthwhile? Or am I just 158 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: existing in the muck of my own Uh? Yeah? Well, 159 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: and it's highly subjective because one man's sloth is another 160 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: person's great productivity, right, And some people are just going 161 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: to have more empathy, more emotional attachment to various topics. 162 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: You know, like one person is going to be like, Wow, 163 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: how could you spend your whole day and not think 164 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: about the conditions on the other side of the world, 165 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: or or think about you know, people that have less 166 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: and try to give back. If you're not thinking about that, 167 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: then it's just me and you have the blinders up 168 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: to it. I mean it's okay, so um, not quite 169 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: right now. But in a little bit we are actually 170 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: going to talk about why that maybe why some people 171 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: are more aware of this and what sloth is for 172 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: some people and not for others. But let's talk about 173 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: what's going on in the old noggain. Yes, inside the 174 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: human brain. What is the science again? According to that 175 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: Discover magazine article, I didn't sin it was my brain, 176 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: the dorso lateral prefrontal cortex or the d l PFC 177 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: has an unusual pattern of activation in both dementia and depression, 178 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: so they see that its function is actually related to 179 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: inhibiting impulses and sustaining attention, which is really important when 180 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: it comes to motivation. Right, So for people who are 181 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,239 Speaker 1: experiencing depression or dementia, there is a bit of activation 182 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: in that part that may suggest that this this part 183 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: of the brain is actually a little bit weakened. I 184 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: guess you could say, for lack of a better word 185 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: there so as opposed to being this capital sin, this 186 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: sort of weak point through which all the other problems surge, me, 187 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: it's really more of a symptom of other problems in 188 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: the brain. It's a question of sustaining attention in feeling motivation, right, 189 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: because if you can't not sit down for five minutes 190 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: and try to do something in your brain wanders, especially 191 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: if you know you are experiencing depression or you do 192 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: have dementia obviously, uh, you know you're going to lead 193 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: to some sort of possible lethargy or just I don't know, 194 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: walking around the room in circles trying to lift your spirits. Right. 195 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: So conversely, activity in this air kid actually help camp 196 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: down negative emotions and some studies depression lifted with stimulation 197 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: of this part of the brain. And of course it's 198 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: the aspect of boredom, right, How engaged can one be 199 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: if there is nothing to be engaged with? Can you 200 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: die from it? Can you die of it? Yes? And 201 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: I think we've touched on this topic in the past, 202 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: and we discussed how like isolation affects an individual where 203 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: where our brains are are evolved in our our brains 204 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: function in a changing world, like we need a new 205 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: stimuli to keep it active, and if the stimuli doesn't change, 206 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: then our brain becomes hyperactive and has to pull on 207 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: stimuli that isn't necessarily there, and it can cause all 208 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: number of problems inside the mind. Yeah, and there's this 209 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: idea that boredom can't exactly lead to death, but your behavior, 210 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: which could be risky because you're seeking a way out 211 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: of boredom, could put you in a predicament that could 212 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: leak into your death certainly. Um In the can You 213 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: Dive Boredom article by Kristin Congress, she actually talks about 214 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: how boredom prone people are more likely to engage in 215 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: these high risk activities we're talking about compulsive gambling, alcoholism, 216 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: drug addiction, and eating disorders and uh in the article 217 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: also says that men are particularly susceptible, as well as 218 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: people with brain injuries or some psychotic disorders. Now, what's 219 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: interesting about that is that brings us back to the 220 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: idea of floth is a capital sin, because then if 221 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: we look at it, this idea that sloth is boredom 222 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: and tedium, then yes, it could be a catalyst for 223 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: other activities that are quote unquote more sinful but more destructive, 224 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: like you like, I mean the classic example that comes 225 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: to mind, it's like a board king. Oh he's boored. 226 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: What is he going to do with his time? Oh 227 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: he's going to eat more because he's and now he's buttonists. 228 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: Or he's going to pursue the pleasures of the flesh 229 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: and now he's lustful, or he's going to really get 230 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: into warfare, or the persecution of witches. And this leads 231 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: to all all sorts of violence against the people within 232 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: his country and those without. Yeah, the persecution of which 233 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: is things is it's a big problem here. Well, no, 234 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: but the kids hang around being bored. I'm talking about 235 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: in I've been reading a lot about witchcraft recently a well, 236 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: specifically demonology and witchcraft in the mindset of those that 237 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: end up crafting the theories of witchcraft and demonology, which 238 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: of course are the learned men of the age. And 239 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: you do have situations where they're and I don't have 240 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: to date in front of me, so I can't give 241 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: you the guy's name. You have like this one prince 242 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: who has all of this time on his hands, and 243 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: that's how he ends up occupying his time by really 244 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: getting into ideas of witchcraft theory. And it's extremely harmful 245 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: to his own people, so right, and which is you know, 246 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: it's certainly a marker of obsession to write. And what 247 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: I think is interesting about this idea of high risk 248 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: behavior and sloth or boredom is that it puts a 249 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: new skew on it, right, because normally you think about 250 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: sloth is sitting around not doing much torpor. But I 251 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: mean this kind of makes us reframe it as people 252 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: who are bored easily, who want to be engaged in 253 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: something but are just kind of running from one thing 254 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: to the other. I mean, actually, I've actually was thinking 255 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: about this in the context of neophiliacs, which we talked 256 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: about people who really just want a new experience and 257 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: actually contain the genes for this, right. They are hardwired 258 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: in a sense to seek out these new activities. And 259 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: if you have this in an imbalance, then you have 260 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: a situation where someone can't stick with something for long. 261 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: They a constantly need some sort of new stimulation to 262 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: the point where it's like, oh, today I'm a musician, 263 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: Tomorrow I'm going to be really interested in being an actor. 264 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: And you never actually pursue these to the level where 265 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: they you can actually be successful with them. Yeah, well, okay, 266 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: so I have to bring up our friend dopamine. You 267 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: knew what was coming here. It is it could be 268 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: that those people have a less dopamine in their system 269 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: than others. And let me just go over dopamine again. 270 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: This is the neurotransmitter. It triggers an emotional response in 271 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: the brain, and when we experience something like join excitement, 272 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: we get this kind of ding ding in our brains. Um. 273 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: So there's a theory that high risk, boredom prone people 274 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: may have naturally lower levels of dopamine. Okay, so they 275 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: have to reach out for it more so, it's like 276 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,119 Speaker 1: they have a hole in the wine skin of their dopamine. 277 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: It's it's possible. And then also people with damage to 278 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: the frontal cortex experience greater risk taking urges along with 279 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: boredom proneness, So there's a connection there. And the frontal 280 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: cortex is also where we perceive time, which could be 281 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: related to the feeling that time is passing so slowly 282 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: when we're really bored. That flows right into the theories 283 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: of relativity where if you're sitting there watching hey, ry, 284 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: time is gonna pass a lot slower than if you're 285 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: doing something exciting. Wasn't this Einstein's experience after he was 286 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: talking to Barelyn Monroe or something. Yes, his whole deal 287 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: was if you you're staring at a beautiful woman, time 288 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: speeds up, which I have on several times, and mentioned 289 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: that I think that could somehow be worked into a 290 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: propulsion system for spaceship, like somehow use attractive women in 291 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: a spaceship observed by elderly scientists, and that will somehow 292 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: warp our perception of time enough to facilitate faster than 293 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: light travel. So we have to be objectified in space. Two, well, 294 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: it's necessary if we're gonna exit this. We're talking about 295 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: the long term survival of the human race. I think 296 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: women can can doll up a little for that. Yeah, sure, okay, 297 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: well we'll get our makeup kits for that one. All right, 298 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: when we come back from our break, we're going to 299 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: talk about the upside of sloth. Alright, we're back, So 300 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: the upside of sloth. I was looking around a litt 301 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: On several occasions, I've I've referred to the writings of 302 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: Anton LaVey, not because he's the ultimate authority in the 303 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: sort of Virtue of Sin dialogue, but because I tend 304 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: to find the founder of the Church of Satan very 305 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: amusing from a cultural perspective. And even he didn't have 306 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: much to say about slot and his introduction to the 307 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: Satanic Bible, where he's he's generally going through all these 308 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: sins and talking about how great they are and how 309 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: they really balance each other out. He just kind of 310 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: mentioned sloth and passing. So how can sloth actually be 311 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: beneficial if even a hard working Satanist couldn't find anything 312 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: really all that's great about? Okay, all right, Well, take 313 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: a little journey with me. Okay, I'm gonna refer to 314 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: Wired article by Jonah Laire who's talking about sloth And 315 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: he talks about a study conducted by Harvard psychologist Daniel 316 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: Gilbert and Matthew A. Killingsworth, and they developed an iPhone 317 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: app that contacted twenty people volunteers at random intervals, asking 318 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: them about their current activity and their levels of happiness. 319 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: What they found, amazingly is that people were mind wandering 320 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: about forty six point nine percent of the time. Okay, 321 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: half half of our lives right there, just wandering about. Yes. 322 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: So that kind of took them down another trail, and 323 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: so they decided, well, let's look into this whole day 324 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: dreaming mind wandering thing going on, and uh, it turns 325 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: out that you could actually benefit from daydreaming a good 326 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: chunk of your time away. And let's call it something 327 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: like lucid daydreaming. You have to have the ability to 328 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: be aware that on some level that your daydreaming while 329 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: still remaining inward. Okay, so that's very similar to to 330 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: lucid dreaming, right, same concept. If you're dreaming, you're in slumber. 331 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: You kind of have to know that that you're doing 332 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: what you're doing, but also participate in whatever story that 333 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: you're weaving. So psychology Professor Johnathan's schooler found now that 334 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: there are two types of day dreamers or day dreaming, 335 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: and this was shown in a study where participants were 336 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: given a slow section of Warren Peace to read okay, 337 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: and then time how long it took before they started 338 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: thinking about something else. Uh. The first type of daydreaming 339 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: occurs when people notice that their daydreaming, but really only 340 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: when they're prodded by the one of the researchers do 341 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: they actually realize that, like and I say, hey, are 342 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: you daydreaming yet? Yeah, I'm okay. And then the second type, 343 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: or again the sort of lucid daydreamers who can self 344 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: report who are daydreaming but are really good at saying 345 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna press the button I realized right now that 346 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: I'm daydreaming. Those people score the highest on just a 347 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: variety of creativity tests because again they're able to sort 348 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: of realize that they're within this dream world, and yet 349 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: there are aspects of this dream world that they can 350 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: actually apply to. I guess you could say, whatever reality 351 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: is at this point, you know, or to more may 352 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: be practical things in their life. Well. As a writer, 353 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: as someone who who writes not only science but also 354 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: um like fiction on the side, I've spent a lot 355 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: of time daydreaming with that in mind, and I feel 356 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: like when I set out to I mean, I do 357 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: some daydream that serves no purpose at all as well, 358 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: But a lot of times I'll intentionally daydream on a 359 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: various you know, fantastic setting or plot idea or something 360 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about writing someday or I'm actively writing 361 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: now or have written in the past and may conceivably 362 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: rewrite in the future, And so I'll throw the daydreaming 363 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: into that, and I'll be like, I'm just gonna instead 364 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: of reading on the train this morning, I'm just gonna 365 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: crank up some music and think about these characters at 366 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: the setting. And you're bringing out an awareness to right, 367 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm bringing that awareness to it, and it's kind of 368 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of goal oriented because I'm thinking, if I 369 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: get this right, if I can figure out how the 370 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: flow of this works, or if something really explosive and 371 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: creative comes out of it, then that's something I can 372 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: work into a story at some point. Okay, So that's 373 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: the cognitive gold that is possibly provided to us, you know, 374 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: considering that you know, silver bronze, especially if you think 375 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: about in the context of really do we daydream half 376 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: of our lives are are waking hours away. Because if 377 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: we're doing that, maybe we should all engage in in 378 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: this sort of lucid daydreaming, which is, you know, you 379 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: don't have to be a zen master, but it does 380 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: take some effort. Certainly, meditation is helpful for that because 381 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: you become aware of your thoughts more easily. I mean, 382 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, you can think of it like brainstorming. Really right, 383 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: You know, there are no bad ideas in brainstorming. Most 384 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: of the ideas you generate in a brainstorming session for 385 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: a business or any kind of business setting, you're gonna 386 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: throw most of those away and maybe you'll get two 387 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: or three that you can actually run with. So yeah, 388 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: and think about thought experiments. So we've talked about this before, 389 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: the thought experiments. There is no point to a solution 390 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: at this point. It is just a scenario that you 391 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: put out there and you say, what if and it 392 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: could be the most ridiculous, most surreal thing. Um. The 393 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: point is not to get to some sort of logical 394 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: like and this is how you solve it. It's just 395 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: to let your mind sort of tick through the options 396 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: So there you have it, Sloth. It's not as nailed 397 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: down to some of these other sins, motivations, aspects of 398 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: the human heart, but it's certainly one that is interesting 399 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: and certainly one that fills a lot of our lives. 400 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: All right, I have just one quick listener mail, so 401 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: let's call the robot over here. All right. This one 402 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: comes to us from Joel. Joel says, Hello, Robert and Julie. 403 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: Big fan of the show. First, I want to thank 404 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: you for the podcast. You're welcome. I work a third 405 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: shift job where I'm alone for about eight hours a night, 406 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: and podcasts are how I keep myself from losing my mind. 407 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: Yours and other house stuff works podcasts are a part 408 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: of that. I just wanted to say that another podcast 409 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: I listened to, wire Tap, a CBC radio show that 410 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: mixes interviews and phone conversations and sometimes monologues and sketches 411 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: around the topic, is also doing a series on the 412 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: Seven Deadly Sins. I've been been holding off on listening 413 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: to both there and your Seven Deadly since series, and 414 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: I've been putting together a playlist of the episodes to 415 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: listen to together. All I need now is their episode 416 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: on Greed and your episode on slot ding ding Ding. 417 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really looking forward to listening to all of 418 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: them in one go, and just wanted to throw the 419 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: idea out there for any other stuff to blow your 420 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: mind listeners who also listen to podcasts in big chunks 421 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: of time. Thanks Joe, Thanks Joel. That's actually really cool. Um, 422 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: I would be very interested to get some of your 423 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: thoughts too, after you absorb all of those different seven 424 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: deadly sins from different perspectives. Yeah, and so certainly he's 425 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: in a situation to discuss this because I've also worked 426 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: I briefly worked like a factory job, but but I've 427 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: certainly worked some jokes where there there's not a lot 428 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: of thought, and I really had to put those into 429 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: my brain to keep myself saying with a monotonous taft. 430 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: So I'd be interested to hear his thoughts on slops 431 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: and how we avoid this this tedium in our lives, 432 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: you know. And I'd love to hear anybody's thoughts on 433 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: sloth how it relates to what do you do in 434 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: your daily life. If you have any thoughts on slop 435 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: and video games that would be very interesting to hear about, 436 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: Like and if you go in for a big, like 437 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: five hour session of sky Rim and your character just 438 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: buy some stuff and pick some berries and maybe kills 439 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: a wolf, does that really feel like you accomplishing him? 440 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: Does that feel kind of slothful? I don't know. But 441 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: if you have a deep sense of satisfaction does that 442 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: can you call that cloth anymore? And that's exact question. Yeah, 443 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: So much of it is in the eye of beholder, 444 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: So behold it for us and let us know. 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