WEBVTT - Conversations About Urban Street Colloquialisms Pt. 2 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.360 Watch up and welcome back to another episode and no 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.480 Seillers podcast with your host. Now funk that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:14.680 low classes, Malone. This is my point. To be a 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:17.639 real American, you have to be born here. You have 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.680 to go through a fucking strenuous process. They don't just 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.880 put seven Americans around you and they beat you up 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:29.680 for ninety seconds and you're an American. So this time 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:33.680 before we start, we're gonna say this first, no ceilings. 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:40.559 G L my boy Peter back once again my favorite 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:45.239 sports podcast, Hoops and Bruise the Homy t p J Pavvy. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.320 Feel me, we had to circle back on this conversation 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.479 because like I got, like I don't know, probably I 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:56.400 can hunt. I never got as much um engagement on 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.760 the podcast, you know what I mean. And it was 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:03.080 the hilarity of it. It was so like left and 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.800 right and how people felt it was. It made people 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.399 like super emotional and that was just something that I 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:16.200 really wasn't I hadn't seen that, and I felt like 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.959 it was a question mark Pete Knight. So I gotta 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:23.720 ask just real quick, so of all the things we've 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:28.200 discussed and as much as you could get wound up, 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:34.280 man triggers were colloquialism. So that's what set off our audience. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.399 Colloquial We talked about colloquialisms that to me is crazy. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.479 I'm sorry. I've listened to every episode and I don't 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.959 even retrew them all on Twitter. I don't put them 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.200 all on Instagram, Like I've got past that of Like, 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.600 you know, I get it as a promotional piece, but 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:53.600 it was so diverse, I thought it would just cause confusion. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:58.560 And so one of the first things I got and 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.440 I wanted to kind of just think. We didn't elaborate further. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.000 So God willing we get it done with this the 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:11.040 sequel to the same conversation. But so the first thing 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.000 I remember because it was a guy that talked like 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:17.560 he messaged me every day to have this conversation every day, 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:21.040 and he was like, well, why is it gangster? Why 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.639 is it gangster? Gotta be negative? Like or why do 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.000 you why do you have to be a criminal to 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.840 be a gangster? And I'm just thinking to myself, like, 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.359 because that's what the game is. I mean, do you 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:37.000 want to argue with me? Or webster? Why do you 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:43.079 have to fish? And And so I think I get 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:47.240 this point He felt like urban people, right, people that 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:53.080 come from our backgrounds couldnnect to these titles because that 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.800 is the most popular thing within said culture. Right, so 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:02.440 they like, Okay, we should have access, you know, we 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:08.320 should have access to these titles without having to fall 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:13.280 in line with the definition. He was like, yeah, why 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.680 can't gangster be you know, me doing the right thing 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:17.960 by the community. And I'm like, well, that will make 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.120 you a community leader. That would be like me growing 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.640 up a white guy in Newport and calling myself a 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:34.000 golfer and not golfing because the community golfs. But bro, 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.760 what I tell you p He was serious. He was 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:41.320 serious as hell, and so I had a couple of 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.240 thoughts and I wanted to share him, right because I 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.480 think Tim kind of felt you know, the most as 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:53.160 far as like the perspectives that he presented. Right, I 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:58.640 get why, right, people want to redefine what being a 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.520 gangster is. This ain't dude, Why can't raising your kid 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.120 the gangster? And I'm like, because that's being a father. 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.920 But I realize when you live your life as a square, right, 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.760 minus the negative connotations, you're just a law biding citizen. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.920 So we'll stop using the term square currently and say 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.360 a law bodying citizen. When you're a law bodying citizen, 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:23.560 bro raising your kids, you getting no credit for that. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:27.320 That's actually like it comes with the car. It stopped, 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.239 you feel me. It's like it's like bragging about power 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:34.040 windows in two thousand and twenty two. Now when you're 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.960 in the community, right and you have said, interesting, you 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.239 know the niggadum, the niggam that we call the street life, 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:46.120 whether it's independent or within the community, that's the gang, right, 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:50.560 being a father becomes more of a challenge because you know, 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:52.960 you you're get in trouble, more like your time is 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.080 in trouble. You know, your time is jeopardy, right you 0:04:55.080 --> 0:05:00.359 you you jeopardize in your time, whether it's you know, crime, prison, jail, 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:05.719 death or whatever. Um. So being a father carries more 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:10.839 value within our community of this street urban life, you 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.560 know what I mean, because that's something special. Most of us, 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:17.960 a lot of us didn't grow up with dad's from 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.680 that background because our dads was partaken in that lifestyle. 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.880 But if you were there that you like, you would 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.840 get a trophy, you know what I mean, a dad 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:34.640 from where we're like, that's like a doctor a father. 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:40.960 So what I think I realized was bringing it down. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:45.479 People are like, Okay, I don't want to commit too 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:51.159 said lifestyle that actually earns me that title, right, because 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.039 I don't want to deal with the repercussions. But I 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:58.960 still want the same credit of being a father that 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:05.280 somebody from my community would get. And I wanted to 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:10.960 define it as this. Now I don't get it, but 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.360 I do get it again. If you're a law body citizen, 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:18.039 being a father is just not an accomplishment. I wouldn't 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.520 say it's not an accomplishment. It's not. I wouldn't say that. No, 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.279 I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:27.719 because you have a lot of I wouldn't. I wouldn't. 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.960 I wouldn't say that because you have a lot of 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.080 people who are lawed by the citizen, but they still weren't. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.840 In like, the kid lives, especially in our community, is 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.280 regardless of what you do. So I wouldn't say it's 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.080 ou an accomplishment. It's not. Though, if you're just a 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.320 local mechanic and you're doing just fine and you just 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:48.000 don't want to go across town to see your kid, yes, 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.760 but there are derogatory terms for that. That's not neutral. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.800 Now you're on the other side of zero. That's not 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.240 what we're talking about. That's not That's why I said 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.320 and and that's the and path. That's the point. Like, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:04.960 it's not an accomplishment, it's only accomplishment in our community 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:11.160 because the lifestyle jeopardizes your time. It ain't like, you know, 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.200 work eight hours, you come home, you might be in prison, 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.680 you might go to jail, you might get shot, you 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.600 might be in a hospital, you might die. If you're 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.640 living a law abiding lifestyle, why the funk would you 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:32.320 not be a father? Yes? What some people are so 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:42.720 at all accomplishment, But I still think you deserve some 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:49.040 credit for that, some credit. No, they're get no trophy, 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.680 no fifth trade. See that's the thing about living right, 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:59.120 uh uh a law abiding lifestyle. You don't get credit 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.559 for being a father. It's like you don't get credit 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.080 for paying your taxes. You get penalized for not exactly 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:09.400 Like these are standard things. Again, like I said, there 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.120 is a first place trophy when you get when your 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.920 father in our community based off of the lifestyle you 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.360 know and choices. So if you made that work, that's 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.800 pretty damn special. You're a special guy, feel me to 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:26.160 some degree. But when you're living a law abiding lifestyle, 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.360 you feel me A father, a father in our community, 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.920 like I said, is a doctor, is a lawyer in 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.680 this community? Right, It's it's a how did you make 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.080 that happen? How did you make that work? But when 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.400 you live in your life, there is higher titles, like 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.160 he telling me, oh, so I can't be a real 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.920 nigga because I take care of my family. I'm like, 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:51.160 what's wrong with being a real man? And why do you? 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.240 Why would you want to be something that people created 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.760 because they because the life they was living, it was 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:03.520 tough to attain. Law abiding you know, law abiding titles. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.320 I feel you, and I feel you. I don't, like 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:12.880 I said, like I told you last time, I don't 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.640 necessarily I don't know. I don't personally walk around calling 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.560 myself a gangster for any reason, to be honest, because 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.760 I'm not a gangster. So like, I just think it's 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.720 just people wanted to just be a part of something 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.520 bigger than themselves. And I think that's just people in general. 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:31.080 It's just people in general. And like I could, I 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:35.680 could understand where he's coming from. But at the same time, 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.480 it's like, why would you even want to be that, 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.240 Like I've never, I've never, I've no, I'm just being honest, 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.200 Like I'll come, I come like I come from a 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.440 family of gangsters. It could be very easily. I could 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:51.920 very easy to be like, yo, I'm a gang member, dad, 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:53.240 as I could be like, yo, I'm a I'm a 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.240 this something of that, I'm from this. I know. I 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.880 know all the gangs in Chicago. I could easily claim 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.240 one of them. And because my family is don't know, 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:01.640 I could be like, yeah, this is who I am. 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.680 But like, I never in my life wanted to be 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.439 referred to as a gangster. I was trying to make 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.360 some money and like get the funk out the hood. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:11.240 Like I personally didn't need to identify with the people 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.600 that was around me in order and try to like assimilate. 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.320 And I've never been in assimilation type of person. Now 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.600 that might be to my detriment, but I personally don't 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:20.920 feel it is. But a lot of people like to 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.960 assimilate and be like others. I've never been that type 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:27.120 of person. So I never in my life called myself 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.920 a gangster. I never in my life called myself a thug. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.000 I make music, I wrap. I never rap about killing 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.800 motherfucker's or being like a thug or selling drugs. I 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.880 don't need to be cause like I'm just could be 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.880 myself and that's cool with me. Like I'm perfectly secure 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.080 with being myself, and a lot of people aren't secure 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.880 within themselves. And that's not saying that bro is insecure 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.719 or whatever, because I also understand it. Like I'll put 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.000 it this way, like I grew up in a family 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:53.720 where like where you know, you know, like you know, 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.679 where my older cousins they come from a generation with 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.920 them calling you gay and all kind of other crazy ship. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.200 It was like a commonplace amongst like the way everybody 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.000 talked to each other, how motherfucker's this ship like that. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.679 I never personally solve value in it because I had 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.400 a cousin that was gay and everybody knew he was gay, 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.800 but everybody was too embarrassed to like be open and 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.880 be himself because of the way that my family talked 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.440 about him and other gay people. So even as a 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.199 young kid, I could have made them we don't listen, 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:23.839 let me finish. Even as a young kid, I could 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.960 have made the decision to do the same ship that 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.560 they was doing him and embarrass him and den'tigrate him 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.480 because it was the it was commonplace amongst the culture 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.520 and my family. But that ship was never cool to 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.360 me because I saw how fucked up he was and 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.440 that ship happened. So I just I'm just not a 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.640 person that's like always been like, yo, let me go 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.160 with the flow, Like that's just not my personal ship. 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.240 And I get it if that's your ship, but like 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.840 that's your ship, and you gotta take personal accountability for that, 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:50.600 and don't be mad at somebody to be like, Yo, 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.320 you're not a gangster, You're just a father, You're just 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:56.079 You're just a mechanic who likes to listen to against 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.080 rap music. That doesn't make you a thug or a 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.679 gang banger or a criminal. You're a billion and it's 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:06.760 nothing wrong with being a civilian. That's you couldn't say 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:11.240 no better than me. H, wait a minute, peple, what 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.680 do we miss for before I get it? For unpacked? 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.320 What I'm about to unpack? What would I miss? You said? 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.160 You said you said it last week and we didn't 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:23.480 hear you. You said, people know why people like to 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:28.960 do that? Why because sexy. It's sexy cashe for free 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:38.560 for women under twenty five years old, sometimes voted, sometimes older. No, No, 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:43.120 nobody fakes like they have a nice union janitor job 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.680 at the club, but they're fake like they're a gangster 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:51.280 at the club. Yes, it only goes one way. So 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:55.120 are we blaming women? I don't know if I'm blaming 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.120 when I am not, I am not. I'm I am not. 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.280 I'm not blaming women for the taste. I don't blame anybody. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.480 That's the same way as like when women complain, how 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:07.080 come a man doesn't want me because of blank? Assimilate 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.920 to the market demand. If you can identify that the 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:13.800 market demand is whatever, you're gonna assimilate to that market demand. 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.360 Women trying to assimilate to a market demand doesn't exist 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.000 to any complain about it. At least men are real 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.880 about it in their in their fakeness. I mean, I 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.160 think I think we've seen that through a lot of 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.600 the changing beauty standards and and even a lot of 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.760 the cultural standards standards in the world, like they've been 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.320 trying to assimilate. But I'm not gonna blame women for 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.120 I'm not gonna blame women for men's in security, because 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.640 I don't hear any women walking around being like, yo, 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.880 I'm a gangster. Yo, I'm a thug. Yo, I'm a 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:44.000 real nig. But they'll walk around no, I'm a bitch 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.480 with ask some sweetheart. We know that's not yours. That 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.199 But but even Patty, what you're gonna say is an anomaly. 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.800 It's gonna be an anomaly versus no. But but I'm 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.720 gonna tell you the difference though women. Men do everything 0:13:55.800 --> 0:14:01.520 for women. Women do everything for women. I still do. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.320 I still don't really really buy that. All the way 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.920 I know they do. They don't do it for themselves. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.080 The lie they tell is they do it for themselves. 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.960 They don't do it the life they tell us that 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.599 they do it for other way. I never heard a 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.600 woman saying I do it for other women I heard 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.400 all the time. I never in my life heard it. 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.160 I've always heard not dressing up for a man. I'm 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.440 dressing up. I'm dressing up from other girls to see 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.440 me whatever you're not because those girls are gonna buy 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.280 you a dress. That is Muslim woman to tell you, 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:32.640 I never I have heard that before as well. Pete, 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.800 and I've always been like, all, are you buying your 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.720 own drinks tonight? I've literally everyone would tell me I 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:43.320 did this for myself. Facts tell us. I hear both 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.080 they I totally hear it out a lot here both 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.680 and I also occur I'm dressing I dressed up for 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.640 my girlfriends tonight, Like all right, so so just tell 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.480 me you didn't want to Actually would make sense if 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.120 they told me, oh, yeah, we're all doing this, I 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.280 would actually be like, Okay, that makes sense. That's y'all. 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:04.240 You a form, okay, uniform tonight. I'm cool. But at 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.280 least at least you'll organized. And I'm cool for that 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:12.160 as long as there's some sensible thing. So, but look 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.880 to rewind, right, and this is dope because we could 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:19.680 get into that, right, We could get into that, right, Yeah, 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:24.360 we get into that. So like when people in our community, right, 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:29.600 the Urbis street community will call people gay, right, what 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:34.640 they were implicating was you were soft. Yeah, so but 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.280 this is something that bothers me. Yeah, but gay doesn't 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:41.280 mean soft. I'm gonna tell you why you're wrong. The 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:49.200 literal definite term this. Yeah, we're talking about cultural things. 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:53.840 That's weird. I literally saw a dude with a beard 0:15:55.200 --> 0:16:00.480 and a weave and he's singing these Patti LaBelle songs. 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.600 Was he in Los Angeles? Was he at the Louisiana 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:13.080 checking out them? People? Different? This person is from Atlanta. Different. 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:17.000 I mean, yeah, that's like a capital, the capital, the 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:23.400 capital of urban homosexuality as far as a cultural thing 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:27.520 like that, Like that impact is unbelievable, like I've never 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.680 seen Like that's to me, the epicenter of how every 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.800 if Like so if you're gonna talk about urban homosexuality, 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:39.160 all everything culture related, style related come from there. Like them, 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.640 they up on it. So I'm telling you because this 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.400 is why I first start seeing some of the ship 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.320 in Groves. So look, so he's singing these patting the 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:50.960 bell songs and it irritates men. I'm thinking to myself, like, bro, 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:55.080 why can't you just be gay? Why it always got 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:59.080 to be some weird ship? Why it always got to 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.440 be you gotta do contrast ship? You feel me like 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:04.680 it's like crypt that were bloods, I'd be like, bro, 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:10.119 why like crimps that we're in, Like why what is 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.000 the point of the contrast? Like okay, are you setting 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.400 somebody up like you like you want somebody to come 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:19.680 ask you like, Hey, where are you from? You feel me? 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.920 So you could like get the jump on them or 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:26.080 are you like you're like, I'm the baddest nick I 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.720 just wear what I want to wear, Like what is 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.040 the purpose? So okay, now now see this is my 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.400 only issue with this part of this conversation because now 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:39.560 we're talking about stuff that you can physically see versus 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:43.760 what ideologically or in terms of people's ego is making 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.960 is like reflecting in the insecurities because like you can 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.200 call yourself a gangster on the internet, that don't mean 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.920 you portray that lifestyle in the in the real life. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.520 Right what you're talking about is like real life ship, 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.880 and that's also apparent ship. Also, we know, like somebody 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.480 could make a statement in terms of anything about anybody's 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.480 appearance and be like, Yo, why you make that decision? 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.280 But that's my But that's my point though, right, Like, 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:09.879 like people could look at the met Gallen ask a 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.159 lot of people about a lot of decisions that was 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.480 made about a lot of that difference that point the 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.040 point of that day. What really makes that different though 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:22.920 if because the event, the event is built around being outlandish. Yeah, 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:24.760 but what if every day of their life is built 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.520 around being outlandish. Well that's the point. That's why people 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:31.600 don't wear met Galla outfits on Tuesday just to the 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:36.040 liquor store. And if you do, I'm looking at you like, 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.600 this is not the appropriate event for such apperil. But 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.560 let me get back to the point. So like so 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:48.680 when you say the Grammys, I definitely did. But that's 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.959 not the point. Listen, dickies, this is the whole us. 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.639 So we get to that actor. So so yes, I 0:18:56.440 --> 0:19:00.720 yea itself does has nothing to do where your outfit. 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:06.600 Gay has nothing to do with your mannerisms. Yay literally 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:12.120 means you are a man attracted to the same sex, right, 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:17.080 that's gay. Right, But why the fuck does it feel 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:21.359 like they always have to be a girl? Well, I 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:25.239 have a hypothesis on one element of this um and 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.159 half of them I think feel. I think it's probably 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.520 by the nature of a little bit of role relationship 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.520 kind of stuff within the dating dynamic in the community. 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:36.960 You know, you tend to see kind of like with lesbians, 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.480 to see a feminal stud together a lot, so you 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.080 may get a similar dynamic on the male side. See, 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.320 that's my point. Even even in that ship, if you 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:52.439 are a lesbian woman. Why the fuck is there a 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:57.440 deal though? In the fucking bedroom that's a mystery for 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:02.840 all meant to wonder. And the other day we're gonna 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.240 impact that the other day, like they unpack that motherfucker 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:13.520 when they show up. And like you said, like you said, right, um, 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:18.679 because of the relationship, right that there in right, So 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.000 let's say if one is softer, or one is the 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:25.919 bottom or kind of the girl, if it's the girl, 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:30.439 if it's the after one, this void it starts to 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:35.080 avoid the conversation more and more every day. To me, 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.879 that's the only person in all of homosexuality being on 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.960 the male or female side, The only person that to 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:47.320 me makes any sense practically mechanic like mechanically speaking, is 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:52.840 like the bottom gay man, because everything else that's going 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.919 on there you can get in the normal conventional relationship. 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.120 I don't think the bottom gay man is the most 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:01.400 normal one. I think the top, you know, I think 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.800 it's the most explicable, it's the most rational because you 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.560 can go a woman, the most rational. No, because you 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:10.800 can suck a woman doggy style the same way. You 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.080 cannot get fucked in the same way by a woman 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.000 that they bought a man can buy a man, So 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:21.800 mechanically that's the most sensible, uh, at least to me. Yeah, 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.639 but but that also but that that's a confusion to me. 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:34.160 And we're getting off points. Another episode. You're not gonna 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:35.480 have one of my I'm not gotta have one of 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.359 my gay partners on, so I could really pick his 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:40.679 brains and really see what the funk he was thinking, 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:42.760 because if some of this ship just stupid. But my 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:44.560 only point in all of it is to bring it 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:47.639 back to what I was saying that we took it 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:49.919 on a tangent, even we took it on tangent, right, 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.520 So my point in all of it was is its 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:57.639 behavioral is behavioral patterns of a zimilar I'm sorry of 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:01.639 assimilation that you either fall into or you don't. And 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:05.159 I think where our community comes from, right, being gay, 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:09.080 or being a square, or or being a nice person 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.120 has always been looked at as being a bad thing. 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.840 It's never something where like people appreciated you for being 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:19.240 the nicest guy in the neighborhood, Like that's not that's 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:23.880 not a thing in our community, but has always been true. Well, 0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:28.360 watching the mask be a thing in our community because 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:33.040 that's what we've done when we've taken the broken, shattered 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:36.520 pieces of whatever American culture we've built over the past 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:40.040 four hundred years and cobbled it together into this thing 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.600 that where it's only four pillars. So like hip hop 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:47.960 is not monolithic, but it's pretty close. So you and 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:50.560 you either following it in the lines of yeah, but 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:52.639 you said, but you're the same person where we have 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:56.479 where we frequently have arguments about stuff being streaked and 0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.119 stuff being not and you telling me that certain people 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:00.800 are in hip hop because you don't view them as 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:04.360 being from the streets. So it's not it's not it's 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:08.439 not saying that they don't have a street. Now you're 0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:10.280 saying how you feel about what I'm saying. You're not 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.520 saying that that's what you've been saying. Because what I 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:17.440 am saying, hip listen. Hip hop is a representation, right, 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:21.520 It's it's in reference to street urban culture. It's the 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:26.000 lifestyle of people that grew up in street urban culture. 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.760 It's not about people being streaked. You don't have to 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.800 be streaked to grow up in the urban street culture. 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.119 Like you're not a street person. That don't change. You 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.920 grew up in urban street culture. You're aware of every 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.720 last thing in South Soude, Chicago that motherfucker's do in 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:45.080 urban street culture. You grew up in it, but you 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:49.280 don't have to be street. Yeah, but you're you're telling 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.640 a whole another class so they can't be a part 0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:57.520 of the cool kids. It's not cool. It's not it's 0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:01.520 cool crowd and marketed to you every fucking day. Bro, 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:05.200