1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast am on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 2: Were you on the phone? Is that how it happened? 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 3: I was sitting on a landline in the in the bedroom, 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 3: on the side of the bed, with the phone on 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 3: my knee holding it to my ear. Lightning came down 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 3: the phone line. It went in the side of my head, 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 3: It went down my spine. It welded the nails of 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 3: the heels of the shoes of my of my shoes, 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: of my the nails and the heels of my shoes 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 3: to the floor, threw me out of my shoes, suspended 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: me in the air, and threw me back down on 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 3: the bed. 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: Who for that part? You were? You? You were awake 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: for that. 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: Yet when that lightning went down, you cannot understand what 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: it's like to burn every single all the nerves. The 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: phone melted and ran. Never hurt my hand, but it 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: melted and ran out of my hand. It was a 19 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: glob and. 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: I couldn't sorry, you go ahead, sir. 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: I couldn't move. I couldn't move, and I could and 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: see rich and I'm blinded because of the ball of 23 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: fire that came to the room. And I'm on fire. 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: It's like battery acid, and I don't know what to do. 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: I can't move, I don't I can't put it. What 26 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: had happened to me? My mind couldn't put it. And 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: the next thing, I'm out of my body. 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: Now, what's sound like you? Do you feel yourself shoot out? 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: Do you feel tethered at all to the earth by 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: a string? Like? What's that feel like? 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 4: For me? 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: Exultation? It was an exultation. I could see I wasn't 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: on fire, I could move, I could observe, and I 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: was free from that body and I was free from it. 35 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: So no matter where I was at that moment, it 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: was better than where I had just left. 37 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: Is there part of you that feels like you're Can 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: you see the fried body below you and think, well, 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: that guy's in trouble. Do you realize it's you? 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: I would tell you exactly how I realized it was me. 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: And this is funny, but this is what I said, 42 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 3: And I just tell what I'm telling people, Rich is 43 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: the truth. You know, I'm telling the truth. And I've 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: been at this fifty years. We're at the place where 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: the near death experience it has its golden anniversary. In 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: this time period, right now. It has been here fifty years. 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: So what is the cultural legacy of the near death 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 3: experience in its fiftieth anniversary and the massive impact, like 49 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: you said, it's had on the United States and the 50 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 3: world as an alternative viewpoint to all the other things 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: that religions and institutions and governments drive down your throat 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: to make you think it's reality. And because people are 53 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: waking up, and to everybody out there on this night, 54 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: Happy Equinox, everybody, welcome to the spring. Let it do 55 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: this moment that your heart's open up again and you 56 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: rebirth so many things, and to start planning and planting 57 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 3: and planning what you're going to do with your life, 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: and use the lunar cycle that's been taken away from 59 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: us rich to reorganize our lives. So the near death 60 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: experience is now an active phenomena. It's not some oddball thing. 61 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: It's happening all the time. And why is it freaking 62 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: happening Because of cardio pulmonary resuscitation techniques, the ability to 63 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: maintain the heart and how it's working, and knowing the 64 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: three basic proteins that control the kidneys so you don't 65 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: go into renal failure, and people are being resuscitated by 66 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: science and the stories that come back from these people 67 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: of every walk of life, some of them are a 68 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: little far out there, but the stories that are coming 69 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: back have common threads, and in those common threads, the 70 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: alternatives to what could possibly be as to what we're 71 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: being told and taught is an element that has brought 72 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: forth so much awakening and understanding for people in this 73 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: last fifty years. And I'm glad that I've been a 74 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 3: part of this. I mean, I spent twenty years with Raymond. 75 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: I watched this unfold, and I did everything in my 76 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 3: power to push this piece of information because I didn't 77 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: believe any of this. This was nonsense to me, nonsense, 78 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: and I always say it like this. One day I 79 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: never believed any of this. The next day I was dead, 80 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: and the day after God to realizing that I was 81 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: a spiritual being. 82 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: Would know where to go, mean know where to go. 83 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: You couldn't turn the light out and not know it. You you, 84 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: You couldn't wake up in the day with your back 85 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: hurting and your and your head hurting from the lightning, 86 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: which was just went on for years. This went on 87 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: for years. It wasn't a week. I didn't bump my 88 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: head or scratch. I mean I lay in a bed 89 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: waiting to die. I mean it was giving me six 90 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: months every six months. So when when a harst time 91 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: I was, they said I was. They said I was 92 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 3: dead for twenty eight minutes, and that. 93 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: Was I mean, well, I've I've heard like a minute 94 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: or two, but I don't know that I've heard over 95 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: half an hour or close to half of. 96 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy five, right in nineteen seventy five, if 97 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: you don't have ortygen to your brain for five minutes, 98 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: that that's it. That's what was the rules. Okay, Well 99 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: I didn't have oxygen to my brain. And when they 100 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: brought me into the emergency room, what the admission paper says, 101 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 3: patient unconscious, patient not breathing, no EKG. Now, if you 102 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: have a patient unconscious and he's not breathing and he 103 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: has no EKG, no heartbeat, no EKG, what is he dead? 104 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: So will you tag him? You push him into a 105 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: room and wait for him to come, get him to 106 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: go to the morgue. A doctor has to sign off 107 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 3: on that piece of paper. Okay, doctor has to sign 108 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: off on that piece of paper. I wasn't there for 109 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 3: any of this. Rich I wasn't there, but my father 110 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: and my brother and two of my best friends were there. 111 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 3: Three of my best friends were there through that whole night. 112 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 3: And this is the story they told me because I 113 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: remember being that, I remember being in the ambulance. 114 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 5: And I know you're going to want some them after 115 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 5: hearing this. This is an amazing story. 116 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand. 117 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 5: I understand that Malachi, who's eight almost nine years old now, 118 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 5: was suffering with not just one or two warts, but 119 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 5: I mean as significant outbreak of warts all over his body, 120 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 5: so significant it impacted his ability to really function. 121 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 122 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to 123 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 6: Righti's book. 124 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: Actually, that got me thinking about it. 125 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. It is an amazing immuno modulator, and 126 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: so I can see that it would work. 127 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 5: And so at what point did you see that there 128 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 5: was actually improvement it's really going to work. 129 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 6: Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks. 130 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 6: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller 131 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 6: and then going down to with just little red monks. 132 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 6: The whole things are gone and we're talking about what's 133 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 6: you know one the size of the wanner, I thought, 134 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 6: no way, that's gonna wow, that's just ian miraculous. To 135 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 6: see him get into a pair of shoes. 136 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 5: Yes, how wonderful. 137 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: It's great to see. I'm so happy and. 138 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 5: Yestid absolutely wonderful. 139 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: Friendstead have seen it? That is blown away? TI? 140 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: This is awesome. 141 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is awesome. 142 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 7: Another amazing story. Why we're talking about Carnivora. 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She was fixing dinner. 152 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: The last thing I heard was when that lightning hit. 153 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: The last thing I heard was her say, while that 154 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: was close, she was right, I'm telling you. And then 155 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: I watched her come down the hall. I watched the 156 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: people working on me, and I was amazed at how 157 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: the distance between where I was in the ceiling, knowing 158 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: how tall the ceiling was, but my vanished point of 159 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: what I was looking at was far superior. It would 160 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: appear that I was further away from the from the 161 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: events that I truly was based on the ceiling, which 162 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: is something that would bother me. Okay, and I'm watching it, 163 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: and when the when the guy on the headsets talking 164 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: to the doctor, he because they were trying to get 165 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: me to the university medical place. He said, he's gone, 166 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: He's gone. And I remember, and this is the truth. 167 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: I remember looking over his shoulder and looking down at 168 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: me and thinking that I'd always thought I was better 169 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: looking than that. It's like an ego, this is a 170 00:09:58,880 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: this is true though. 171 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: You're a great dresser too well. 172 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: But but when I saw me there, when I looked 173 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: and I saw me, the nature of dagging, you know, 174 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: that personality was still active, it was still observing. And 175 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: that's when the tunnel, that's when this series of sounds, 176 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: these seven tones. I could hear these tones, and I 177 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 3: could see the energetic pattern of everything moving toward over 178 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: my left shoulder, moving over my left shoulder, and I 179 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 3: feel and it's like if you were peeling an onion. 180 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: You know, each layer is coming off, and I'm using that. 181 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: It's not what happens, but it's the best thing I 182 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: can say. And these layers of me were peeling away 183 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: as I started down this tunnel from my left, and 184 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: then I came into this place and it was right 185 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: but not to hurt my eyes. It had a silvery 186 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: blue glow to it, you know, it had this tent 187 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: to it, and I was comfortable. 188 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: I was do you have the choice of walking into 189 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: this tunnel or you're just out of your body and 190 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: it just is moving through on its own. You don't 191 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: have control over. 192 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: That, Okay. So remember, as you talked to me, Rich, 193 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 3: I have been through three of these, and I have 194 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 3: been dead. I take two of them and put them 195 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: together as one. Because I had to be clinically resuscitated twice. 196 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: In twenty eighteen. When they brought me out of the 197 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 3: final one in open heart surgery for the second time, 198 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: they didn't give me three months. They didn't give me 199 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: three months because they had to clinically necessitate me after 200 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 3: the surgery, and then I went into cardiac arrest a 201 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: couple of light times, and then they have to then 202 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: on a Sunday morning at two am, I went into 203 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 3: cardiac arrest and had to be clinically resuscitated twice. So 204 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: I lumped those into one because that was about a 205 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 3: forty five minute run in my life where I never 206 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 3: I just stayed beside the body. I wasn't going anywhere, 207 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: and I would come out and stay beside the body, 208 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: and I was able to tell them who was working 209 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: on me, who was working on me. When they one 210 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: nurse got tired the other, I could tell them which 211 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: nurse had changed to go to work on me. I 212 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: could tell them who the cardiologist was, and the woman 213 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: standing next to me was the was the leader, and 214 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: each time I would come out of my body, I 215 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: would be next to her. So they said, you're adding 216 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 3: eight minutes I'm gone resuscitating. And another one was the 217 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: night six minutes. But all that happened in about a 218 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: thirty or forty five minute period to stabilize me. So 219 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: I just put that as one because the same thing 220 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: happened up in both times. But it's still I have 221 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: no pulse, I have no heartbeat. 222 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: So the first person I know that's got like a 223 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: fast pass to the gates of heaven. I go Danians 224 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: here again. Put the angels to talk to him last night. 225 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 3: But maybe I have two things I say about that. 226 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: But people who know my personality, they always say, Danian, 227 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: why do you keep coming back? It's so wonderful over there. 228 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 3: And I said, what you got to do is remember 229 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: the pay. I said, what's the deal. You listen to 230 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: the deal, because when you enter this realm, you have 231 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: something called free will, which is the greatest, most powerful thing. 232 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 3: When you realize you're a spiritual being and the power 233 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 3: you possess in free will, it's a staggering moment in existence, 234 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: you know, it's staggering. And so I always say, they said, well, 235 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: what kind of deal would you make? I said, well, 236 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: this is I'm an old marine and I'm a tough guy. 237 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: And I said, well, if they promised me that I 238 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: could go to Hell and that I could have, the 239 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 3: last thing I could remember is that I have my 240 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: hands around the enemy of my God. And I said, 241 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: I know he has many names, Lucifer and Satan and 242 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: Devil and all that stuff. I said, but all the 243 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: ways I see that you can go to Hell, I 244 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: don't want to do any of those to achieve that. 245 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: But if there's a way that I could get to 246 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: Hell to hunt if my God, as I believe in 247 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: the divine force of a spiritual being who's had multiple 248 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: near death experiences, has been a hospice volunteer for forty 249 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: eight years. I mean, with two thousand and seventeen people 250 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: going from this world to the next world and three 251 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: and three hundred and fifty eight taking their last breath. 252 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: I built the largest end of life care volunteer program 253 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: for dying veterans in American history, and I co wrote 254 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: the standard end of life care model that is presently 255 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: today used by the Veterans Administration as this patiative and 256 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: end of life care. This was my commitment to understanding 257 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: when I saw myself and who I was. When you 258 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: have what's called the panoramic life review or the life 259 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: experience or the book of knowledge. 260 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: When you have that, no. 261 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: Matter what anybody thinks, as they listen to us Rich, 262 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: they will all have a life review. 263 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 264 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: one am Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot 265 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: com for more