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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George

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Speaker 1: and Ori with you. Let me tell you about Joe

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Speaker 1: Diamond and made me look like just a normal guy.

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Speaker 1: But he has turned his fascination for the strange and

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Speaker 1: world record holder for solving the world's largest corn maze.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you about that in a second blindfolded. He

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Speaker 1: even hacked the pentagon on live radio. Ask him about that, huh.

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Speaker 1: He's the longest artist in residence at the Dole Mansion

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Speaker 1: in Crystal Lake, Illinois. He's the official mind reader at

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Speaker 1: the very luxurious Maxwell Mansion and Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, and

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Speaker 1: both of those places are indeed haunted. Joe, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the program. I'm looking forward to this. Thank you very much, George.

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Speaker 1: This is a dream come true to be on Coast

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Speaker 1: to Coast. I appreciate the invite and can't wait to

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Speaker 1: dive into it tonight. I came to find out that

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Speaker 1: you were highly recommended by a guest of Bars. Will

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Speaker 1: be on next week Varla Venturas. She thinks the world

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Speaker 1: of you, and I've been getting emails all day today,

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Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to this. Thank you. Yeah, vas

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Speaker 1: Varla's a sweetheart. I invited her to be on. I

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Speaker 1: I invited her to come on and we instantly hit

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Speaker 1: it off. And it was one of those it was

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Speaker 1: to a t Well, go ahead, before you even get

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Speaker 1: into you got interested in the paranormal. Tell me about

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Speaker 1: this world largest corn maze? Where was it? And explain

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Speaker 1: what our corn maze is to folks. So it's in

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Speaker 1: the Midwest. It is in Spring Grove, Illinois. If anyone

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Speaker 1: has seen the movie Groundhog Day with Bill Murray, that

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Speaker 1: to that. So they have the claimed the fame for

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Speaker 1: having the world's largest corn maze. Every year. It's a

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Speaker 1: But my time was two hours and fifty minutes. In

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Speaker 1: So technically my record is for solving it whether I

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Speaker 1: to read her mind through helstruism also known as contact

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Speaker 1: How in the world, Jerosoph, did you get through this blindfolding?

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Speaker 1: How do you do this? So? Contact mind reading is

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