1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of The Clay Travis 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show is here. Friends. Thank you for 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: joining us from all across the country for our podcast. 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Listen from all over the world. Senator Dan Sullivan of 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: Alaska here. He was recently with some members of a 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: convoy I believe up in Alaska play it. I do 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: not believe that the federal government, and particularly the President 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: of the United States, has the power to look at 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: American citizens and say either you get vaccinated or you 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: get fired for your job. He doesn't have that power. 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Senator Sullivan was up there at a trucker protest in 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: Alaska and he is with us now. Senator Dan Sullivan, 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: good to have you on, sir. Hey, Clay Buck, good 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: to be on the show. Thanks great to have you. 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: So what's going on? I mean a lot of US 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: stateside and in the lower forty eight in particular, but 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: certainly up in Alaska. I know people are talking about 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: this too. I wondering is there going to be a 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: trucker protest a trucker convoy similar to what's happened in Alaska. 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry in Canada. What's going on up in your 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: state in Alaska? Tell us about it. Well, look, people 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: are very motivated to support not just the truckers, but 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: this whole issue of this illegal, unconstitutional vaccine mandate. I 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: think you know the rally that I was at back 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: home over the weekend. This is bringing out people who 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: don't always protest. This is bringing about average Alaskans, average Americans, 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: because people are tired of this. And I will tell 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: you the one thing that I tried to emphasize in 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: my remarks is a lot of people are right now 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: have amnesia. Think about it. You guys, the truckers and 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: other frontline workers during the pandemic two years ago, when 33 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: things were just hitting our country, you know, they were 34 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: telling everybody, hey, you gotta tell a work. Well, guess what, 35 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people in America who couldn't tell 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: a work. The people who are keeping are the shelves 37 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: and our stores full, the people who are producing oil 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: and gas, the frontline police and first responders are military. 39 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: So I was saying, hey, it's not just the truckers 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: who we want to support, but we got to remember 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: these are the people who kept us going during the pandemic, 42 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: and now they're being forgotten or being told they're going 43 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: to be fired if they don't get a vaccine. It's outrageous. 44 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: What are you hearing, Center Sullivan? I appreciate you coming 45 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: on with us. What are you hearing from your constituents 46 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: about supply chain issues all over Alaska? I would imagine 47 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: maybe even more pronounced than in many other parts of 48 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: the country, given how difficult it can be to ship 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: things and move things around. And what are you hearing 50 00:02:54,160 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: about this massive? I feel like outpouring against COVID restrictions 51 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: in general. I know Alaska has got a great affinity 52 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: for freedom. What are your constituents telling you in the 53 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: state about both those issues? Well, they're interrelated, and it's 54 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: a great question because, as you mentioned, you know, we 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: and all ask are very vulnerable to supply chains, and 56 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: a lot of what the Canadians say is their policies 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: directly impact us. I was talking to a trucker at 58 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: that rally who said, for you know, months and months 59 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: he was driving through Canada to deliver supplies to Alaskans, 60 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: he had actually gotten a vaccination, but now he said, 61 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: up being required to get a booster, And I can't 62 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: supply the people of Alaska. I mean literally one of 63 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: the guys at the rally who I was talking to, 64 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: so to me, they are very interconnected. But again I 65 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: will say that my constituents are just tired of this 66 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: federal overreach. Here's something that I think was really important 67 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: and it hasn't and discuss lot when we put together 68 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: the Cares Act, and look, nobody knew what was really 69 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: going to happen. That was the first big relief bill. 70 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: The overriding principle that we put in that bill, Democrats 71 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: and Republicans, the Trump administration, all of us working together, 72 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: was if you're a business or an airline or something 73 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: that's getting federal aid, you actually have to keep your workers. 74 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: You have to keep them. The whole point of the 75 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: Cares Act was keeping people together, keeping people working. Joe 76 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: Biden comes in, you guys and takes a sledgehammer to 77 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: that principle and flips it on his head and says 78 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: to employers, if people don't get vaccinated, you gotta go 79 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: fire the very people who were keeping us safe when 80 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: there was no vaccine. Think about the illogical nature of that. 81 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: And so I think the average Alaskan is viewing the 82 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: these mandates as something that Nay, we're just not tired of, 83 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: but that the government, the federal government, has no right 84 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: to an act. And the one thing I said at 85 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: the rally that I think a lot of people wanted 86 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: to hear was that we're actually winning. We are winning 87 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: when these unconstitutional and illegal vaccination mandates have been challenged. 88 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: We wanted almost every court, including the US Supreme Court, 89 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: and you guys may have seen it. We put forward. 90 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: I was a lead co sponsor of a Congressional Review 91 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: Act resolution. That's a resolution that has the force of law. 92 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: In the Senate, it passed with bipartisan numbers of senators. 93 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: Democrats voted for it too, to overturn Biden's illegal mandates. 94 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: So we're winning, and I think the people are behind us, 95 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: and I think there's just a weariness here, but also 96 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: a sense that the government has gotten way out of 97 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: its lane in terms of its constitutional and illegal authorities. 98 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: It's interesting to that Senator Simn like, like me, you 99 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: met your wife in law school. I believe you were 100 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: at Georgetown, and I believe I've got all that correct. 101 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think about the uproar surrounding Ilia Shapiro, 102 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: who is a Georgetown professor as an alum, and certainly 103 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: you're going to be enmeshed in the decision of who 104 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: the next Supreme Court justice is. What did you think 105 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: of that freakas that controversy and how does it play 106 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: into the larger context in which a Supreme Court justice 107 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: will soon be considered on Capitol Hill. You're an alumb 108 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: of Georgetown, I'm curious what you think. Well, look, what 109 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: I've been saying on the Supreme Court nominee is that 110 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna do what I think every Senator should 111 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: do is meet with the nominee, go over his or 112 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: her record, and importantly treat him or her and the 113 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: office with the respect and dignity that it requires. Okay, 114 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: this is a very very important position no matter who's nominated. 115 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: But what I'm not going to do is take part 116 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: in any kind of fiasco circus that you saw with 117 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: Brett Kavanaugh. Right, that was a low point in my 118 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: view of how this is supposed to be done. And 119 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: I don't anticipate on the Republican side any kind of 120 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: those antics. We're gonna be focused on the record and 121 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: on the judicial philosophy. What I do with every single 122 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: Supreme Court nominee that I have vetted and met with. 123 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm not on the Judiciary Committee, but I take it 124 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: very seriously because, as you guys probably know, there are 125 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: many federal court decisions that only relate to Alaska, federal 126 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: laws that only relate to Alaska. And what I do 127 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: with all the justices or judges who want to be 128 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: justices and come before me, I try to educate them 129 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: on those whether I'm going to vote for him or not. Hey, 130 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: are you aware of this? Are you aware of I 131 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: also grill them on the Second Amendment, very very very 132 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: important to my constituents. A lot of judges aren't fully 133 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: up to speed on the hell Or decision. That's the 134 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: Scalia decision that said for the first time in American 135 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: history that the Second Amendment is an individual right that 136 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: is not related to your service in a militia, gigantic 137 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: issue for the great State of Alaska and my constituents. 138 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: So I do it with respect, but also grill them 139 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: on things that matter to the people I represent, and 140 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: then get to judicial philosophy. What what is your view 141 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: of your role on the court. Senator Sullivan We've only 142 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: got about a way the way Kavanaugh was treated. Yeah, 143 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: it was horrible, rageous, and we can't we can't go 144 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: there again. Were we're speaking of Senator Dan Sullivan of Alaska. Sir, 145 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: just before we let you go, I wanted to know 146 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: you were an infantry officer and a colonel in the 147 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: United States Marine Corps. Thank you for your service. There 148 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: have been members of the military who have been fired 149 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: from their jobs, who have been kicked out for the 150 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: vaccine mandate issue in recent days. What do you think 151 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: could be done should be done at the government level? 152 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: I mean, assuming, let's say even maybe Republicans take control 153 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: of the House and the Senate in this mid term, 154 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: how do we make amends for that? Because I think 155 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: that's a stain on the honor of this country that 156 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: we would kick out men and women for not getting 157 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: a shot that, as we all saw, didn't stop the 158 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: spread in the first place. What should be done? Well, look, 159 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm actually still serving. I'm a colonel in the reserves. 160 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: I just spent ten days out on Indo Paycom theater 161 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: part of an exercise operation or Exercise Keen Edge, with 162 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: a bilateral exercise with the Japanese military, so I'm still 163 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: very involved and on the Armed Services Committee. Look, I 164 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: think the one thing that has to happen is the 165 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: exemption process that's going on through the military has to 166 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: be taken serious. You know, in the military, you go 167 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: through and you get all kinds of vaccines when you're 168 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: first in, when you're when you're going through the boot 169 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: camp or officer candid school. I do think it's a 170 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: little different from the average citizen given that history. But 171 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: what I've been concerned about right now is up until 172 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: now you're reading about services that haven't provided any exemptions 173 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: for anything. And I think that that, even for the military, 174 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: is under the law, and it's something that we need 175 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: to look hard at with regard to keeping our force ready, lethal, strong, 176 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: but also making sure they're abiden by the rules that 177 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: relate to these kind of vaccines. Senator Sullivan, appreciate you 178 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: joining us, keep us updated on the Alaskan truckers joining 179 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: alongside of the Canadian truckers, and we look forward to 180 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: talking to you again soon. Great clay Buck, thanks very 181 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: much and look forward to getting back on the show. 182 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: Thank you for sure. 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You know, we used to look to Europe 210 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: in the early days of COVID as a sort of 211 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: guidepost for what might be coming or what we should do. 212 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe the caller we had earlier 213 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: in the second hour to finish the show was right Buck. 214 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: Maybe Joe Biden is going to go for a grand 215 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: pronouncement at his State of the Union address, which is 216 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: suspiciously late, and as we get close to the spring. 217 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: Usually the State of the Union is in January, and 218 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: now it is pushed all the way back to March, 219 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: and so maybe Joe Biden is going to make some 220 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: grand pronouncement about COVID at that point in time. But 221 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: listen to what Boris Johnson has done now in England. Obviously, 222 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: Boris Johnson under fire for a variety of parties for 223 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily following his government, following the restrictions that he 224 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: put in place for other people. But listen to what's 225 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: happening right now in England. And this is also, by 226 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: the way, happening in Ireland, Denmark, Finland, Sweden and many 227 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: other European countries where they're effectively saying, hey, COVID is 228 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: over here, no more restrictions at all. That's what England 229 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: is doing. Listen, missus peak. I can tell the House 230 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: today that it is my intention to return on the 231 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: first day after the halftime recess to present our strategy 232 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: for living with COVID. Provided the current encouraging trends in 233 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: the data continue, it is my expectation that we will 234 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: be able to end the last domestic restrictions, including the 235 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: legal requirement to self isolate if you test positive a 236 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: full month earlier. Ah, it's kind of a big deal, 237 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: kind of a big deal, Clay. It's interesting how these 238 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: other countries have also been much more willing to release 239 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: children from the grips of their mask and otherwise COVID 240 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: lockdown induced hysteria. And this needs to be happening all 241 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: over the place. Look, it's all it's all coming here. Too, 242 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: because the virus is receding very rapidly. Right now, it's down. 243 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: The fourteen day change according to the New York Times website, 244 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: which is just CDC data reflected through the Times website, 245 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: is down sixty three percent in two weeks. Okay, the 246 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: virus is cratering. What'll be what's fascinating is, as you 247 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: see in an analysis of it, it'll be the same mask, 248 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: no mask, you know, different areas of the country that 249 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: are near each other, whether these policies are in place 250 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: or not. It's just coming down everywhere because we're past 251 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: the respiratory virus season peak. Just like last year. Isn't 252 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: an amazing play? Just like last year in the middle 253 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: of January lit January worst COVID case numbers this year, 254 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: same thing despite the vaccinations, and be very same in 255 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: the depths right now the fourteen day change on that 256 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: as deaths are actually up nine percent. Now, that's because 257 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: deaths are a lagging indicator. Also people also, people often 258 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: spend you know, a week ten days in the hospital 259 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: fighting COVID and then sometimes obviously tragically unsuccessfully. But twenty 260 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: five hundred deaths a day is what they're counting right now. 261 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: That's a lot of people considering what we've been told 262 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: about the incredible efficacy of the of the vaccine against 263 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: hospitalization and death. I know they had been saying it 264 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: was ninety nine percent unvaccinated people. You're going to see 265 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: that number folks drop and drop and drop. In fact, 266 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: it's kind of vanished that argument. Remember that we started 267 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: off the winner with Joe Biden putting out the official 268 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: statement that it was going to be a winter of 269 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: death for the unvaccinated. You've really even started to see 270 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: the White House back away from the argument that this 271 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: is a pandemic of the of the unvaccinated, because the data, 272 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: at least if you'd look at Israel, which is far 273 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: more reliable than the data that we have here, reflects 274 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: as a Alex Barnson told us last week that the 275 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: COVID shot, the COVID vaccine, whatever you want to call it, 276 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: which is making Feiser, by the way, fifty billion dollars, 277 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of a monster deal. That we have mandated a 278 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: for profit corporations product to be used by almost everyone 279 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: in the United States on some level, and that they're 280 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: going to end up making fifty billion dollars buck and oh, 281 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: by the way. Remember they also have protection against any lawsuits. 282 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: So that's a pretty good business to be in if 283 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: you are in the drug business, to be able to 284 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: get hooked up like that, And so it is going 285 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: to be pretty wild to see how this continues to 286 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: shake out. But again England, Ireland, Denmark, Finland, Sweden among 287 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: other countries effectively saying COVID is over, we are ending 288 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: all restrictions. And I gotta say I feel like Biden 289 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: may try to make a grand pronouncement at the State 290 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: of the Union as we get close to the spring 291 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: and buck we predicted on this show right around January 292 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: fourteenth or January fifteenth was going to be the peak 293 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: in cases. We nailed that, and then we said, hey, 294 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: you know this trails by three or four weeks the 295 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: overall death rate before it starts to come down. Now, 296 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: remember a lot of these people who are dying are 297 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: dying with COVID, not dying of COVID. So it got 298 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: so common elmcron did that a lot of people are 299 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: just testing positive. And I think Berenson's point is a 300 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: good one that many of the unvaccinated people are dying 301 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: are so ill that they're not actually being vaccinated at 302 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: all because they are not healthy enough, which is pretty significant. 303 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: Also pretty significant as we break down and continue to 304 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: roll through this program, how about Relief Factor making a 305 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: big difference. 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That's exactly what 324 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: we're talking about here. They work in red states and 325 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: they work in blue states. We know they saved lives. 326 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: They help connect people to treatment and recovery, and they 327 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: were endorsed this week by a bipartist in commission co 328 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: chaired by Senator Tom Cotton that examined steps we must 329 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: take to address the devastating toll of overdoses. So what 330 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: I would say is, this is not a game. This 331 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: is not a political game. This is an epidemic that 332 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: is taking the life of an American every five minutes, 333 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: and we need to work in a bipartisan way to 334 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: address it. We want to address opioid overdoses in this country. 335 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: One of the biggest ways to do harm reduction would 336 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: be securing our southern border to the greatest extent possible. 337 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Clay and back the White House now 338 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: drilling down on the issue of overdoses. Two out of 339 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: three overdose deaths last year were from opioids. Over one 340 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: hundred thousand Americans died. Now there's been a commission, the 341 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: US Commission on Combating Synthetic opioid trafficking. Just published a 342 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: report yesterday that you had a million people, a million 343 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: Americans died from opioid overdose from nineteen ninety nine to present, 344 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: and the numbers keep going up year over year in 345 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: recent years, such that we actually have reductions in average 346 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: American life expectancy for people in the mid range of 347 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: life let's say twenty five to fifty or so because 348 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: of the massive and below twenty eighteen to fifty because 349 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: of the massive increases in the amount of people who 350 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: are dying from this. Now, this is She's correct on 351 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: some points, an absolutely essential cause, Clay. I mean, to 352 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: stop the discourge of opioid overses in this country is 353 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: a national This is a true emergency. This isn't climate change, Oh, 354 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: in fifty years or one hundred years we think of 355 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: This is right now. This is people listening to this 356 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: who have lost loved ones, have lost family members, friends, colleagues, 357 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, coaches, teammates, you name it to drug overdoses. 358 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: Two out of three of these overdoses are opioids. And 359 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: here's the part of it, though, that they are not 360 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: going to focus in on. This is coming across our 361 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: border from Mexican drug cartels. The Mexican drug cartels use 362 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: the human trafficking flow to bog down border patrol members 363 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: so that they are processing, bringing sandwiches and water and 364 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: doing you know, COVID testing or not doing COVID testing 365 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: as the case may be. They're they're bringing people, they're 366 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: bringing people resources, and that means that the border is 367 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: then wide open, and the cartels, I've seen this in 368 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: real time, then then they'll just run a pickup truck 369 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: or they'll they'll run people on foot where they know 370 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: there's not going to be any coverage because there's such 371 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: human a huge human trafficking flow. And then there's also 372 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: the China component of this, which I'll get into it 373 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: in a moment. But Clay, if they're going to be 374 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: serious about dealing with the drug overdose scourage in this country, 375 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: they have to look at the poorous border and make changes, 376 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: and they won't. So they're identifying a problem. But once again, 377 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: the Democrats aren't serious about the solution. Giving out crack 378 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: pipes is not going to do it well. It's unfortunate, 379 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: there's no doubt. And also I think this is directly 380 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: connected not only with the border, but with the shutdown 381 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: and lockdown policy, because there's no surprise that the overall 382 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: number of opioid depths skyrocketed when suddenly you weren't allowing 383 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: people to be surrounded by their support structures, whether it's 384 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: going to addict meetings, whether it's going to church, whether 385 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: it's being able to interact with their friends and family. 386 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: And this is an important detail. As we have set 387 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 1: a high, I mean, that's a crazy, unbelievable, awful number 388 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: buck a million people since nineteen ninety nine, we also 389 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: have to think about years of life that are lost. 390 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: And this is something that I've continued to hammer throughout 391 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: the course of all of this COVID madness. The average 392 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: person who is dying of COVID or with COVID more accurately, 393 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: is typically older than the average age of death in 394 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: the United States. That is, it's awful, but the people 395 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: who are dying with COVID are approaching the age at 396 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: which most people die of all causes. When somebody in 397 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: their twenties or thirties or forties dies Buck, they are 398 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: losing forty years or fifty years, or sometimes sixty years 399 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: of life. And so this is why and and and 400 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: it's everybody out there understands it. It's why when you 401 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: go to a funeral for someone who is younger that 402 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: has died, it is such an awful feeling compared to 403 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: when you go to a role for someone who's eighty 404 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: five or ninety and it's a celebration of their life. 405 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: What we are doing is destroying young people's lives by 406 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: not protecting our border, by not fighting against all of 407 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: all of these drugs that are coming in, and then 408 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: by not allowing people to live their normal life, we 409 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: have stacked up tens of thousands of additional debts that 410 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: would otherwise not have occurred if we had never done lockdowns. 411 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: So they agree, This White House agrees that there is 412 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: a massive problem, and the numbers, the numbers show that 413 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: beyond any doubt whatsoever, and they're getting worse. This is 414 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: one of the areas in public life, just like crime 415 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: has been getting a lot worse recently. And you can't 416 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: avoid those numbers. The opio we sent an all time 417 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: record last year. And let's work backwards from the ground 418 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: zero of the problem, if you will, all the way 419 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: back to the supply chain of these lethal these lethal 420 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: substances you mentioned the lockdowns. Clay absolutely a huge component 421 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: of this. People were in despair, They were separated from 422 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: friends and family and aspects of the community that would 423 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: have been necessary would have been very helpful for them, 424 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: especially during the enhanced anxiety of the early days of 425 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: the pandemic. So that was and who pushed the lockdowns, Now, 426 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: just put that question out there for they who pushed 427 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: the lockdowns and who was saying we need openness, we 428 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: need people to be able to Now you step up 429 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: and then you step back a little bit. Where are 430 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: the drugs coming from? So we know what's happening when 431 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: people get the drugs there. And there was already I 432 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: think about ninety thousand overdose stats a year roughly before 433 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: the pandemic. Pandemic kicked it above one hundred thousands, So 434 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: that's made it worse. Where the drugs coming from. The 435 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: come across the overwhelmingly the US Mexico border, and the 436 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: Biden administration's refusal to get serious about border security and 437 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: having control of the border, the lawlessness they've allowed has 438 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: made the cartels much richer, much more powerful, much more 439 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: influential than they have likely ever been, and they are 440 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: flooding our streets with these drugs, and then you can 441 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: step back even further than that to China because the 442 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: Chinese Community Party is refusing to crack down on the 443 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: precursor chemicals. It's really only like a three or four 444 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: step process. And now we're getting kind of breaking bad here, 445 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: but it is. It's a three or four step process 446 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: to make these compounds, to make the fentanyl and the 447 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: car fentrol and these things, and the precursor chemicals clay 448 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: are being shipped to the Mexican drug cartels in massive 449 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: vats by the Chinese Communist Party. So you're seeing here 450 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: how this whole system works. The Biden administration to address 451 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: this is doing what exactly, trying to give out clean 452 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: needle programs and pipes, trying to increase funding for substance 453 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: abuse centers. By the way, substance abuse centers. It's good, 454 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that those aren't things that might 455 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: have some effect, But if you want to get to 456 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: core baseline how we stop the flood on our streets 457 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: and stop people from dying from this, you need a 458 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: Democrat party that is much more serious about the dare 459 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: I say root causes and origins of the pipeline of 460 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: these illegal drugs. What would happen if we had a 461 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: trucker convoy. I like the idea of them being in Washington, DC. 462 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: What would happen if they went to the southern border? Buck, 463 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: Would people cover it? We got we've got an issue 464 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: right now in the northern border, and all of a sudden, 465 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm hearing about the Ambassador Bridge and people can't get across. 466 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: If truckers went to our southern border, would the media 467 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: be forced to travel down there and cover it? It It 468 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: would be fascinating, Clay, because they what you're seeing now 469 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: with Trudeau saying they're Nazis, they're racist, they's Confederate flags. 470 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: It would be that times a hundred from our own media. 471 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: If truckers just went down to the border and said, 472 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: we need a secure border, we need our brothers and 473 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: sisters in America to not have ready access to the 474 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: illegal fentonel that's flooding the streets from the drug cartels 475 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: across the southern border. They would just say they're all racist. 476 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: That's what would happened. They would say they're all racist. 477 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's horrifying, but I think that that is 478 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: the reality. It would be interest. I think you're right, 479 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: because anytime you make a strong argument, they don't engage 480 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: in the argument itself. They just immediately go to the 481 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: politics of personal destruction and say you're racist, you're sexist, 482 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: you're transphobic, whatever it is. That's the number one attack 483 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: right now. We mentioned, you know, the upin swimming issue. 484 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: How dare you be so transphobic? 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I was kind of curious because 517 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm out in La, how aggressively they would be in 518 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: fort seeing the vaccine mandates out here, and I've only 519 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: been asked one time to go anywhere about whether or 520 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: not I had a vaccine proofcard or whatever you want 521 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: to call it, and I feel like this is crumbling. 522 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 1: I was just talking with you off air our friend 523 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: Ian Miller, who wrote a book about the failure of 524 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: the masking. Yeah, Unmasked did a great job. We had 525 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: him on the show recently. I was just looking at 526 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 1: during the commercial break. Arizona and California have had the 527 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: exact same trajectory of COVID, even though California mandated masks 528 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: basically everywhere on December fifteenth and Arizona did not. And 529 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: they're just so many of these, and I think it 530 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: becomes readily apparent when you see it from a graphical perspective. 531 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: Buck how insane it is for anyone to still be 532 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: arguing for these restrictions when you just overlay them and 533 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: look at them on a side by side base. There's 534 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: no legitimacy to support it at all. Arizona, obviously a 535 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: neighboring state with California, one state does one thing. We've 536 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: seen it in Orange County versus La County We've seen 537 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: it even in the Northeast, for New York City as 538 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: opposed to other surrounding communities that haven't had vaccine mandates 539 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: and passports. And certainly in my hometown of Nashville, Davidson 540 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: County compared to Williamson County in school. And you were 541 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: making a good point, and maybe we need to request 542 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: that he do this the next time doctor Fouci testifies 543 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. I would love for someone to print 544 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: up big graphical examples of these of these results and 545 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: just point to them in the hearing and say, doctor Fouci, 546 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: how do you explain if your restrictive measures actually work. 547 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: The fact that these graphs are identical, whether masks are 548 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: mandated or not, whether kids or mandate did to wear 549 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: masks or not. A layman, a non scientist, looking at 550 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: these identical graphs would say that masks have zero impact whatsoever. 551 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: I would just the love for him to get grilled 552 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: on how to justify any restrictions over the last couple 553 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: of years. It would because he would pull his mask 554 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: down to answer that. It would go something like that. 555 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: He would start talking and say, first of all, science, 556 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: that's me. Second of all, you'll address me a science 557 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: third of all mitigation measures in different places, in different 558 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: locations at time. He's mastered the art of just bureaucrash 559 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: him with not actually ever really saying anything. We look 560 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: at the data and we make determinations based on science. 561 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: He never answers, Okay, well, how the heck does Arizona 562 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: and California have the same curve? You imbecile if one 563 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: did the thing you said really works well and the 564 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: other didn't, and then it's just the same thing. It's 565 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: like you have a little remember those those dolls they 566 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: had ba you'd like pull the like's they say like 567 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: three or four things. Yeah, they said three or four things. 568 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: That's Fouci, dimminution, mitigation, droplets, masks, vaccines, this is it's 569 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: the same crap from the sky every day. Do you 570 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: agree with me? Earlier in the show, as I think 571 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: about how this is going to play out, Fouci's gonna 572 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: retire in the summer and claim victory when the virus 573 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: naturally declines right in advance of the mid terms, and 574 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: then he doesn't look like he's running and hiding from 575 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: the House and the Senate when they turned back to 576 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: Republican control. That's the exit for him. Right in the summer, 577 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: we won, I can now declare victory. I'm going to 578 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: ride off into the sunset. It doesn't look like I'm 579 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: running from whatever the results of the mid terms are. 580 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: And it allows Democrats, even if it's not true, to 581 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: share just same way they're saying, Like, you see what 582 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: Biden's saying. Now, Oh, I've brought back six point seven 583 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: million jobs or whatever, you don't get credit for. We're 584 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: still nowhere near the employment level that we were in 585 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 1: February and March before the lockdowns. You don't get credit 586 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: for bringing back jobs that were already there. We haven't 587 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: gotten anywhere near back to full employment. Imagine if I 588 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: barged into your house, folks, and you were cooking a 589 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: delicious steak dinner. Actually made a pretty good stak last night. 590 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: I love cooking red meat, but I barged himself by 591 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: the way you cooking. I just like to practice so 592 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: that you know on game night, Clay, you know, man's 593 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: gotta have coming up soon. You know what I mean. 594 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta be ready. You gotta have that 595 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: reverse seared solo steak. Cook is a little bit of 596 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: a I've never done that. Oh my man. I mean, 597 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: you know you've been married for like almost twenty years, right, 598 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,959 Speaker 1: so you gotta if you're a solo man, you gotta 599 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: be able to rock that steak and anyway. But imagine 600 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: I barged into someone's house and they're cooking their steak 601 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: and I just turned off their oven and I'm like, 602 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna wait for an hour because I say so, 603 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: And then I turned their oven back on. I said, see, 604 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm a great chef. That is Joe Biden with the jobs, 605 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: all you did is stop what was there and then 606 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 1: claim that you fixed it when you stopped stopping it. 607 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: So I think we all see what's going on. I 608 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: think there are a lot of people who are going 609 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: to try to convince the American public that Joe Biden's 610 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: doing a great job with the economy, and the way 611 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: that they're going to try to do it is by 612 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: pointing to this job's recovery, when really it's just letting 613 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: people go back to work. I also want to tell everybody, 614 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: all you Sue Vied meat cookers out there, you keep 615 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: that here. I'm a reverse here guy. You can keep 616 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: I always get all these emails you gotta use the 617 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: Sue vied Buck. I like the reverse here, all right, 618 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: I've got my way and that's how I roll. Keith 619 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: in Hermosa Beach, California, an aerospace engineer tell us about this. Yeah, 620 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: hey guys, good to be with you. Hey, Clay, welcome 621 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: to La Hermosa Beach. Is fantastic place there in the 622 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: South Bay, by the way, for people who haven't been 623 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: so Romosa Beach. And it was very nice. Yeah at 624 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: eighty one degrees right now. It's not the norm, but yeah, 625 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: we got a beautiful day here. It just got off 626 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: my bike, rode through Venice all the way up to 627 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: will Rogers and back. I'd normally do that a couple 628 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: times a week. And sure enough, there are no homeless 629 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: in Venice. They are absolutely gone. The left they got 630 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: called for the Super Bowl, right, Yeah, that's what I heard. Name, 631 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: Mike Keith, you got thirty seconds to explain airliner filtration 632 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: to us, Buddy, you got it. I'm a retired airspace engineer. 633 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 1: The average seven thirty seven. There's different lengths of the cabins, 634 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: but the cabin air gets replaced every hundred and eighty seconds. 635 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: Every three minutes. There is a complete air exchange inside 636 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: the cabin, one minute inside the cocktail. Every aircraft is 637 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: equipped with a HEPA filter which filters down to the 638 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: level of the backs of the virus or bapper. All right, 639 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: key that worked. That was not nominal fleet. Travis and 640 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton on the front lines of t