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Speaker 1: This this one Bill's Live, presented by Callida Health. All right,

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Speaker 1: how is everybody Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here

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Speaker 1: on this Wednesday, April second, all the April fool chokes

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Speaker 1: are out of the way because they were coming fast

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Speaker 1: and furious yesterday. Hopefully you weren't fooled. But here too, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it happens. Happens to the best of us.

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Speaker 1: It happens to the best of us. But we've got

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Speaker 1: some Bill's News to jump right into today. On another

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Speaker 1: dreary day. Uh here in western New York, we are

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Speaker 1: waiting for the weather to break. Even Brandon Bean was

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Speaker 1: asking us if we could do something about the weather.

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Speaker 2: He's my My standard answer is tax Day.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we know, that's the turning point for you.

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Speaker 2: Kind of count on having a bunch of good days,

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Speaker 2: you know, good days in a row instead of just

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Speaker 2: this twelve hour period we get once in a while, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, and then back to the gray. So I'm yeah,

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Speaker 2: another couple weeks.

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Speaker 1: There are also uh Bill's players trickling in as we

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Speaker 1: inch closer to the start of the off season conditioning program.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, we've seen a handful of players here, some

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Speaker 1: of them have been here a week already, just doing

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Speaker 1: their training here. Others are kind of trickling in h

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Speaker 1: So we're seeing more and more of them with each

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Speaker 1: passing day. More of the younger players, you know, guy

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Speaker 1: entering their second year, those kinds of guys want to

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Speaker 1: off season as a pro. And I think they know

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Speaker 1: as well as anybody that after you've been through that

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of them are looking to

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Speaker 2: Also, I remember seeing it from young players and feeling

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Speaker 2: it as a young player. It's, you know, the season

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Speaker 2: happens then all of a sudden, you know first and

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Speaker 2: a lot of them and my case as well. You

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Speaker 2: Although it's different now with nil these guys are kind

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Speaker 2: but they've got it's your first time away from the

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Speaker 2: like wow, you know, it's it's kind of cool to

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Speaker 2: can reconnect with your teammates, all that stuff. It's you know,

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like first day of school coming back

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Speaker 2: and like, hey, you know, except you get to work

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Speaker 2: other stuff. You get a lot of free time in

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Speaker 2: the you know you snow curfew and all that. That's

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Speaker 1: Not yet anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So and the second year players come back and

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Speaker 2: because there're you still feel like you're getting the hang

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Speaker 2: there plenty early, get settled, get you know, how's it

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Speaker 2: going to be. What happens when all these guys show up.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just a little uncertainty still until you

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Speaker 1: I kind of wonder if a lot of those guys

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Speaker 1: I mean by that is last year, at this time,

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Speaker 1: they're on the pre draft banquet circuit, just trying to

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Speaker 1: the Bills. You know, brush up on the scheme, maybe

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Speaker 2: As well, right right, You just want to Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: don't want to be show up and like what what's

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Speaker 2: And also it starts to this time of year when everybody,

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Speaker 2: and you say, man, they're going to they may hire somebody.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough realization for some of these guys, and

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Speaker 1: The biggest news though here at One Bill's Drive today

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Speaker 1: is it is now official. Christian Benford has signed this

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Speaker 1: four year contract extension after flying into town today. We'll

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Speaker 1: have him here in studio in a bit on today's show,

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Speaker 1: so we look forward to that conversation. I think it's

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Speaker 1: the first time we're going to have him on set

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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, so looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: ESPN is reporting that Texas wide receiver Isaiah Bond is

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Speaker 1: scheduled for a pre Draft thirty visit with the Browns, Packers, Chiefs, Bills,

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Speaker 1: and Titans starting next week. He also has a local

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Speaker 1: Draft thirty visits, according to ESPN. So we'll have to

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Speaker 1: what comes of it, but without further ado, we welcome

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Speaker 1: to the set Bill's cornerback, newly minted with a contract extension,

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Speaker 1: Christian Benford Christian, Yeah, congratulations man, really happy.

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Speaker 3: For you bring here.

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Speaker 1: Sure, absolutely happy to have you going on these days.

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Speaker 1: It was funny at your press conference a little bit

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Speaker 1: earlier you were joking about how much your hand was

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Speaker 1: hurting signing your name that many times. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I had to use my left hand for

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Speaker 1: Wait, you can write with both hands? Are you ambied?

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Speaker 3: Extras like that?

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Speaker 1: How did you do that in school? Like your hand

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Speaker 1: get tired, you flip over the other side?

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, oh yeah, well you just flipped it over, No,

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Speaker 1: Is your penmanship just as good one side with the.

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Speaker 3: on what I'm doing. Like if I got like curse you,

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Speaker 3: I was better where like my left Okay, my penmanship

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Speaker 1: Okay? Better cursive writer on the left side.

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Speaker 7: That's break that down for trivia question at some point.

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Speaker 1: That is a good one. I'm gonna file that one away.

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Speaker 1: So congrats, I mean, it's this great news. Really happy

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Speaker 1: for you. Did this kind of in your estimation, not

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Speaker 1: that you've been through a free agent process, but we're

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Speaker 1: not even a free agent but a contract extension process before.

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Speaker 1: Was your was your agent kind of keeping you informed

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Speaker 3: A little bit booth because I don't really want to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because then you're thinking about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, But I did have some thoughts I like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I don't really want to hear like what it

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Speaker 3: like when it's time to get put pin the paper,

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Speaker 3: like all right, let me know what's the verdict. You

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Speaker 3: it's like all right, then we could talk if it's

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Speaker 3: just like maybe this, maybe that, like to.

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Speaker 1: Get to a point where it's it's when it's not

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Speaker 1: a smart move.

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Speaker 7: It's a smart movie.

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Speaker 2: And I've been through that because you you you start out,

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Speaker 2: they're always far apart, and that's disheartening when you kind

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Speaker 2: of man, you feel like it's never gonna get done.

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Speaker 7: But if you just say, listen, call me when it's close.

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Speaker 2: We'll call me when it's when you're ready to sign,

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Speaker 2: and then then I'll listen to that's a smart move

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Speaker 2: because it keeps the emotions.

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Speaker 7: Out of it.

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Speaker 2: And now you can give brand being a hug and.

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Speaker 7: So who is the first person you called.

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Speaker 3: Uh when I found out?

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Speaker 7: What's the first teammate you called when you found out

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Speaker 1: Or more importantly, what was the first teammate that reached

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Speaker 3: And probably was like it was the same ones that

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Speaker 3: like I've been talking to you out like this whole season,

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Speaker 3: that I've been talking to you pretty much, like right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's nice.

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Speaker 3: So they they reached out to me, my Doss, Saraan,

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Speaker 3: They all like we we just because we've been all

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Speaker 3: but the first inson I talked to was uh my

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Speaker 3: called my right hand man, Deshon. I called him Smoke,

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Speaker 3: my folks kind of you already. So like I had

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Speaker 3: the people I called with Mantre and my God helping you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is it a little weird to know that maybe

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Speaker 1: aside from Taran and Dane who's coming back and has

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Speaker 1: You're one of the guys that maybe some younger people

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Speaker 1: are going to be looking to pretty soon for how

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Speaker 1: to do this the right way and do it for

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Speaker 1: a long time. Because I think I think it's safe

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Speaker 1: to say you're more of a lead by example guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, just talking to other guys. They're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that's just not his nature and they're cool with it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you're a lead by example guy. But

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Speaker 3: Uh, we all like we all know what it feels like,

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Speaker 3: It's I feel louitude from God that gave me the

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Speaker 3: Uh, it's because started Safaris The Adventure of Being You.

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Speaker 3: that person, and the person that he could he can

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Speaker 3: impact somebody else. Now it's like a domino effect. Now

438
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Speaker 3: you continuously impacting somebody for sound.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot like the culture in the Bill's locker room,

440
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Speaker 2: the Sean McDermott PREI you, that's fine, but you got

441
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Speaker 2: to be the best you, right, And that's kind of

442
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Speaker 2: what it's all about in this culture. I mean that

443
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Speaker 2: it seems to you can understand why you thrived in

444
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Speaker 2: McDermott's culture. Here they don't care if you're a quiet

445
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Speaker 2: lead by example guy, or or Jordan Phillips guy waving

446
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Speaker 2: his arms on the line of script. You know what

447
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Speaker 2: I mean, It's okay to be you and we're gonna

448
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Speaker 2: help you be the best. Is that kind of part

449
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Speaker 2: of the reason you just signed a new contract, part

450
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Speaker 2: of the reason you went from where you began your

451
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Speaker 2: career as a six n late round draft pick to

452
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Speaker 2: starting on opening day of your rookie year, and and

453
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Speaker 2: and and even going beyond that.

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Speaker 7: It's that same kind of attitude.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, just wanted to continue being part of culture,

456
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Speaker 3: the loving culture, the family like culture, the open arms

457
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Speaker 3: like culture, to be you and no judgment type of culture,

458
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Speaker 3: and yeah, you're right McDermott. Being the hard point being

459
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Speaker 3: the best version of you no matter who you are,

460
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Speaker 3: they just want to see the best of you. You

461
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. They're not trying to make you

462
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Speaker 3: a craft, you into this type of person to fit

463
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Speaker 3: the team. Now, whatever you are, bring this part of

464
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Speaker 3: the team. Then they going to make you the best

465
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Speaker 3: version of you and to help you be the best

466
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Speaker 3: version of you my bad. And that's the culture that

467
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Speaker 3: you want to be a part of that allows you

468
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Speaker 3: to be you.

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Speaker 1: Another best version of you was looking pretty good right now? Contract,

470
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Speaker 1: you got a book coming out?

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Speaker 2: How important was that in this product? How do you

472
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Speaker 2: tell your agent? I mean, you tell us now that

473
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Speaker 2: it's all signed and done, can you say, listen, I want.

474
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Speaker 4: To be here.

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Speaker 7: This is kind of where I've thrived. They they've given

476
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Speaker 7: me this. How much of that was in it? Because

477
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Speaker 7: when push comes to shove, you got to look out

478
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Speaker 7: for your family.

479
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know the Bills thought the world of

480
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Speaker 2: you and they wanted to bring back. Obviously the contract

481
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Speaker 2: says that, But how much did you tell your agent

482
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Speaker 2: on a personal levels, like, Hey, if we can make

483
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Speaker 2: this work, I really want to stay.

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Speaker 3: Here mmm a lot. Uh. Now, I ain't talk too

485
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Speaker 3: much about that. I'mna cue the but realistically I did say,

486
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Speaker 3: like I do want to be here, you know what

487
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Speaker 3: I'm saying. I ain't really say it like every day

488
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, or all the time it's

489
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Speaker 3: here that no, no, But I was just like telling them, like, yeah,

490
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Speaker 3: I do want to be a party here, like I

491
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Speaker 3: like your mom. The guys are great and the love

492
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Speaker 3: is genuine. Like I told him, I do want to

493
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Speaker 3: be a party here for like the next two years

494
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Speaker 3: of my life. You know what I'm saying. I want

495
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Speaker 3: to continue to grow here. I want to continue to

496
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Speaker 3: win here, Super Bowls here, I come out and continue

497
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Speaker 3: to build relationships here with you guys here and whoever

498
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Speaker 3: else to come to the part of this culture. You

499
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I did communicate with that

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Speaker 3: with them.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations again on the contract. On the book, which is

502
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Speaker 1: called Stylish Safari The Adventures of Being You. You got Benny,

503
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Speaker 1: the bobcad in there, whole bunch of animals. It's Christian's

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Speaker 1: uh first children's book and uh it'll be I know.

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Speaker 1: You can get it on bookshop dot org. Beginning April

506
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Speaker 1: twenty second, but they do have a pre order tab

507
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: there as well, so if you want to pre order

508
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Speaker 1: the book before it's even out, go to bookshop dot Org.

509
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Speaker 1: I know they've got it there. Stylish Safari the title

510
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Speaker 1: of Christian's book. All the best of you, man. We're

511
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Speaker 1: getting ramped up. We'll stay out there on the field

512
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Speaker 1: real soon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Christian Benford joining us. Stylish Safari is the book.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a break. Be back with more here on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalidah Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

518
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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Good conversation there with Christian Benford. Congrats to

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Speaker 1: him again on his new contract extension which became official

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Speaker 1: today as he flew into town signed it, and he'll

521
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Speaker 1: be heading back out again. They turn right around and

522
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Speaker 1: leave if I have to be here for a couple

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Speaker 1: more weeks. And you know, he's got his trainer back

524
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Speaker 1: home in Baltimore, so he's doing his own thing down there,

525
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Speaker 1: and then he'll get here when you know, the conditioning

526
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Speaker 1: program starts in a couple of weeks, so he's good

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Speaker 1: for him.

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Speaker 2: He's been around the block a few times, so he

529
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Speaker 2: knows well right how it works.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was good to hear that he's, you know,

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Speaker 1: good to go, because I know to your point, and

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Speaker 1: that's why he asked him. You know, the last time

533
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Speaker 1: we saw him, he was getting cartered off the field

534
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Speaker 1: with his second concussion in as many weeks. So nice

535
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Speaker 1: to see him good to go now, So that was

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Speaker 1: good to hear, good to see so just happy for

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Speaker 1: him overall. It's nice when you see guys that have

538
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Speaker 1: a dedicated mindset, nose to the grindstone type approach to

539
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Speaker 1: the game get rewarded like that. And I think we

540
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Speaker 1: all kind of knew that the Bills wanted him back

541
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Speaker 1: in the fold for the long term, so nice to

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Speaker 1: see that come to fruition.

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Speaker 2: He also gives you a glimpse into how much these

544
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Speaker 2: guys care, how you know, how close of friends all

545
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Speaker 2: these players are to each other. You talk about, you know,

546
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Speaker 2: DeMar Hamlin and Christian Benford to come in together, and

547
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Speaker 2: they they're sitting back there in the walkthrough, is talking

548
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Speaker 2: about what they do, how you play this and what

549
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Speaker 2: and then says some day it's going to be us.

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Speaker 2: And then that day comes all too soon. Then DeMar

551
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Speaker 2: goes through what he went through, and what a heroic

552
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Speaker 2: story it was. And Christian, one of his close friends,

553
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Speaker 2: is there with him, you know. Uh, and now he's

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Speaker 2: back on the field with him. That's pretty significant life event.

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00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So the two of them, you know, and

556
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Speaker 2: and others on the field too, you know, poor Year

557
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Speaker 2: and High and all those guys. I mean, they got

558
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Speaker 2: you know, it's uh, it's it's means something to these guys.

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Speaker 2: And I thought, I'm glad he gave us a little

560
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Speaker 2: glimpse into how you know what the locker room does

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Speaker 2: mean to him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean him and tomorrow Hamlin. We're running with

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Speaker 1: the twos when they first got here, and now you know,

564
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Speaker 1: this past year they were running as fellow starters. So

565
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Speaker 1: all those reps they got back in the day when

566
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Speaker 1: they were second teamers, you know, it helps, it helps.

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Speaker 1: So just happy for him overall. Got to go around

568
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Speaker 1: the end now though, which is brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. Patriots

570
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Speaker 1: have their long term franchise quarterback in the fold. That's

571
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Speaker 1: Drake May, but they also drafted a second quarterback last

572
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Speaker 1: year Tennessee's Joe Milton, and after his Week eighteen performance

573
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Speaker 1: against the Bills backups last season, there are teams interested

574
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Speaker 1: in acquiring the soon to be second year signal caller.

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Speaker 1: Milton is obviously hopefully he can go to a team

576
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Speaker 1: where he can compete for the starting job, but it's

577
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Speaker 1: really not his choice. Last month, ESPN reported that the

578
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Speaker 1: Cowboys were interested in Milton as a backup to Dak Prescott.

579
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Speaker 1: The Giants and Browns are still seeking a long term

580
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Speaker 1: answer at the position, so we'll see if something develops

581
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Speaker 1: come draft weekend, possibly sooner. Milton went twenty two for

582
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Speaker 1: twenty nine for two hundred and forty one yards and

583
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Speaker 1: a passing touchdown in Week eighteen against the Bills backups.

584
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Speaker 1: Also ran one in for a touchdown in that game.

585
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Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, Steve just being there seeing

586
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Speaker 1: him throw it, He's got an arm like he is

587
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Speaker 1: every bit the physical specimen that Josh Allen is. He

588
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Speaker 1: is that big.

589
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Speaker 2: He's a big dude.

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Speaker 1: So I'm that can be enticing for some teams that

591
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Speaker 1: are desperate, beyond desperate for an answer at the position.

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Speaker 2: And also, he just spent twelve months behind a guy

593
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Speaker 2: who's getting it done, you know, watching and then he

594
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Speaker 2: got a chance to put it on the field in

595
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Speaker 2: live action, certainly against you know, it wasn't against you know,

596
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Speaker 2: Josh and the and the guys, but.

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Speaker 6: You know.

598
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Speaker 2: He played well at the NFL level. None of these

599
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Speaker 2: guys that are going to get drafted in two weeks

600
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Speaker 2: or three weeks I can say that. Yeah, I absolutely

601
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: there's some you can't afford not to kick the tires.

602
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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a hot name. I

603
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Speaker 1: think so too if he's not moved before, he is

604
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Speaker 1: going to be a hot name draft week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's not going to play in New England

606
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Speaker 2: and New England. If you're trying to build a team,

607
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Speaker 2: get something for him. Well.

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Speaker 1: And not only that, Yes, you've only seen glimpses, but

609
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Speaker 1: at least you have seen him in an NFL setting,

610
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Speaker 1: on an NFL game field. You can't say that about

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Speaker 1: anybody else in the draft class.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't preseason, right, so.

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Speaker 1: Might have been half a step up from that though

614
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Speaker 1: still because the Bills didn't need the game, as we know.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I get all that, but it's not about him

616
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: playing against You still.

617
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Speaker 1: Have to go out and perform. Yeah, and he did that,

618
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Speaker 1: and he did with not much to work with in

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Speaker 1: New England. Let's not forget a bad offensive line and

620
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: a less than stellar receiving corps and he still was productive.

621
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Speaker 2: And he's toolty. I mean that says it all. The

622
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: guy's got some he's.

623
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Speaker 1: Six six with a rocket arm and he can run around.

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Speaker 2: That's right. That guy's he's gonna be around for a while.

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Speaker 1: I would think, yeah, you know, I think one of

626
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: these teams should bring him in and have him compete

627
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Speaker 1: against somebody else and let the cream rise to the top.

628
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Speaker 1: And even if he's not your starter, do a lot

629
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Speaker 1: worse at backup quarterback than that kid.

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Speaker 2: I agree. He you know, yeah, he's perfect and plus

631
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Speaker 2: and for him you couldn't imagine because he wasn't a

632
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Speaker 2: high draft you know, he wasn't one of those he's

633
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Speaker 2: one of those guys that he's a proud he's one

634
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Speaker 2: of these finger quote project guys. Right, perfect landing spot

635
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Speaker 2: for him to go to New England, particularly with Drake

636
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Speaker 2: May playing well because he never got thrown in. He

637
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Speaker 2: got a chance to sit do everything, to watch, watch

638
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Speaker 2: how it's done, got a chance to go out and say, Okay,

639
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: let's see what you got Joe and he and he

640
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Speaker 2: killed it. It's perfect start to his career because now

641
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Speaker 2: he's got some credibility and some knowledge to go with it,

642
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: and a little bit of he's been around.

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Speaker 1: The block ones and that helps man In a non

644
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Speaker 1: ballyhooed quarterback class, I think he might be viewed by

645
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Speaker 1: some teams as a better option than anything that's on

646
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Speaker 1: the board. So I think he's going to be a

647
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Speaker 1: hot name draft week if he's not move before then.

648
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Speaker 1: Speaking of potential trades, the rumors continue to swirl that

649
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Speaker 1: the Eagles will move veteran tight end Dallas Goddard. When

650
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni was asked about that possibility

651
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: at the owners meetings, he said, quote, right now, he's

652
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Speaker 1: on our team, and obviously Dallas Goddard has meant a

653
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: lot to us. We'll see how that plays out. He's

654
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: a heck of a football player, heck of a leader.

655
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: Want to be able to have back as many guys

656
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: as you possibly can, but that's not the reality of

657
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. End quote. I don't know if I would

658
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: necessarily call that a ringing endorsement that he's there to stay. Yeah,

659
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: the door is clearly open.

660
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: Well, Sirianni's I mean he was barking at the Philly

661
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: fans during the Super Bowl rear, right, so he doesn't

662
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: say all the things the coach speaks stuff. All you

663
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 2: got to say there is Yeah, we want him back.

664
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: He's a great player, great leader. Of course we do.

665
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, it's just a I'd love to have

666
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: him back, but I don't think he's gonna be That's.

667
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: What he's the reality of the NFL.

668
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was like, okay, right, like, yeah, that's true.

669
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: But okay, I mean, and look, what if he does

670
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: come back.

671
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: Now, we can't dismiss the finances either, because trading him

672
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: would lead to a cap hit for the Eagles. But

673
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: there is strong conviction among the Philadelphia media that he

674
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: is going to be moved off the roster. The Eagles

675
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: did sign a pair of tight ends in free agency already,

676
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: and Harrison Bryant who came over from New England and

677
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Kylon Grantson who came from Indy, so it's not like

678
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: they're short numbers there. I think they have five tight

679
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: ends on the roster right now. They might be moving

680
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 1: on from their most expensive one. We'll see just because

681
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: he's expensive.

682
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: He's not earning that contract.

683
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,239
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend to know the ins and

684
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: outs of all of it.

685
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: I imagine that they feel like they can win without an

686
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: expensive tight end.

687
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: Probably yeah, And maybe the money they're paying him doesn't

688
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: fit the role of the tight end in the offense.

689
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: I think there might be something to be said for that.

690
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: But he turns thirty one. At the end of this

691
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: coming season. His production was the lowest it has been

692
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: for the Eagles. He only played ten games, but it's

693
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: the lowest it has been in four seasons. So I

694
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: think the Eagles might be subscribing to are we getting

695
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: the value for the money we're paying number one? And

696
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: number two? Are we best served to Pard Ways a

697
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: year earlier rather than a year later. Some teams subscribe

698
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: to that. The Bill's notwithstanding, they moved on from Diggs

699
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: probably a year earlier than maybe some people thought they should,

700
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: and that ended up working out pretty well.

701
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: If there's a durability concern, I mean, Bills fans can

702
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: can commiserate with this, you know, in the case of

703
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: a guy like Matt Mulano. Love the guy wan Wold

704
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: play and when he's out there, he's a difference makers

705
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: that hasn't been out there enough of late, and the

706
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: Bills reworked his contract. So you know, unless Philly, you know,

707
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: tears up the deal, which maybe Dallas Goddard says, no way,

708
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: you know, not tearing my deal up, then you got

709
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: a different, different animal there. But you know, we can

710
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: kind of commiserate with that kind of problem when you've

711
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: got a guy that you love but can't stay on

712
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: the field.

713
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens there too. That perhaps could

714
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: be a draft day trade and does Howie Roseman now

715
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: move up the board again by trading a player instead

716
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: of picks. So something to just bear in mind and

717
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: keep an eye on as we get closer. We're quickly

718
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: finding out why Aaron Rodgers is still dawdling this offseason

719
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: on decision on where to play this fall. It appears

720
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: to be down to the Vikings and the Steelers. Clearly

721
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Rodgers would prefer to play for Minnesota. He and head

722
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: coach Kevin O'Connell have had multiple conversations. What's causing the

723
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: hold up, apparently, is a progress report on JJ McCarthy.

724
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: There soon to be second year quarterback and his recovery

725
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: from knee surgery which cost him all of last year.

726
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: When the team returns for offseason workouts in a couple

727
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: of weeks, an assessment will be made on McCarthy's progress,

728
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: and it's believed that if the club isn't encouraged about

729
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: that progress, that Rogers would become a more viable signing

730
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: for the Vikings. So apparently that is what Rogers is

731
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: waiting on. McCarthy. If he is on schedule, they probably

732
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: pass on Rogers and then he'll only have Pittsburgh as

733
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: a place to land, So right, that seems to be

734
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: how this is all getting weighted out, So a little

735
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 1: more waiting to do. We'll see.

736
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

737
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: Thirty nine year old Kaleaiis Campbell Steve has signed with

738
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, agreeing to a one year deal for

739
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: five and a half million. Campbell was a second round

740
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: pick of the Cardinals all the way back in the

741
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight draft, played his first nine seasons

742
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: for Arizona before moving on. He returns to play for

743
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: the Cardinals for the first time since twenty sixteen. Steve,

744
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: I know you've said it a long time if you

745
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: were six six and three hundred pounds, you'd still be

746
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: playing well. Kaleius Campbell is proving you right in many

747
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: many ways.

748
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: I read an interesting thing about Kalais. He's in the

749
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: league in twenty twenty five. He played or was a

750
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 2: teammate with.

751
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: He was with the Dolphins last year.

752
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was also also back early in his career.

753
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: He was a teammate I think of Steve Young or

754
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 2: was he was in the league with Steve Young. Steve

755
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: Young was also in the league when Steve Bono, the

756
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: quarterback was in the league. So Steve Young was a

757
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: teammate or played against a guy in night that was

758
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: in the league in nineteen eighty five and with a

759
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: guy who's in the league in twenty twenty five. Dear lord,

760
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: that is a long stretch to have a connections.

761
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: Longevity with a kle l that.

762
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kalais Campbell is and he's still productive. Yeah, he's

763
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: a good player. He's a Hall of Fame caliber player.

764
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: I think he was second on the Dolphins in sacks.

765
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: Last I think that. Yeah. I say this all the

766
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: time and people, and I don't know how people. It

767
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: lands with people. But playing a long time in the

768
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: NFL is the old trump card for respect for players

769
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: once you're out of the league. Playing a long time

770
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: is really an unbelievable tip of the cap.

771
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean, for a thirty nine year old that's not

772
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: playing quarterback or kicking to still be going.

773
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: And subtly up front, I'll bet you he's got more

774
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: people interested in just the Arizona Cardinals too. He can

775
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: still play. Just a tremendous a tremendous player for a

776
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 2: second round pick. He's, like you said, when he walks

777
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: into a room, it's like, Wow, I wonder what team

778
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: he plays for, because he's a professional football player. I mean,

779
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: he stands out in a card, but.

780
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: He's doubting it.

781
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a big dude.

782
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay head coach Todd Bowle said he's hoping wide

783
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: receiver Chris Godwin will be able to play Week one.

784
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: He said, quote, I'll have more to know about that

785
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: after this month goes on. See how he feels when

786
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: he gets running and practicing and everything else. He's working

787
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: his way back from a dislocated ankle that he suffered

788
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: in Week seven last season. Did not return, so getting

789
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: in back in the fold will be big for the Bucks,

790
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: who decided to run it back with both Godwin and

791
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: Mike Evans who resigned, so the top two guys in

792
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: their receiving corps will remain there, at least for this

793
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: coming season. Forty nine Ers owner Jed York, when asked

794
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: about when a contract extension will be completed with quarterback

795
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: proc Perty, said quote, when he's ready, we'll sit down

796
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: and finish.

797
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 8: It.

798
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be that hard to do. Is this an indication

799
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: of an owner that's not one hundred percent familiar with

800
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: how Limny twists and turns these contract negotiations?

801
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 2: If I mean that hard to do?

802
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 5: Right?

803
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: Done right? If I'm the player and the player's agent,

804
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: I'm raking that GM over the coals now, because if

805
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: the owner's sitting there going just get it done, he's saying, Hey, money,

806
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: no object, Let's go give me the money.

807
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the money.

808
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: Who's making the most? Oh yeah, now it's us? Yeah,

809
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: And that's all yet because that's it. Yeah, the guy

810
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: writes check says, get it done. Can't be that hard? Yeah,

811
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: you're right.

812
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, head coach Kyle Shanahan mentioned he hopes Purty wouldn't

813
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: hold out of offseason workouts if a new deal wasn't completed.

814
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: The general tenor of contract negotiations for Purty is that

815
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: it will get done, though there are some that believe

816
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: it is not advanced as quickly as the party camp

817
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: would have preferred. So there's that, and then finally Steve.

818
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: This one's interesting. With the NFL schedule for twenty twenty

819
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: five due to be released next month, word comes that

820
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs have already put a request into

821
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: the league that the NFL make them an annual fixture

822
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: on their Christmas Day slate, similar to the way that

823
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: Detroit and Dallas are fixtures on Thanksgiving. The Chiefs played

824
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: on Christmas Day last season. This season, Christmas is on

825
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: a Thursday, and I believe there's a triple header that's

826
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: supposed to take place there.

827
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: The only question is when are the Bills going to

828
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: play on Christmas Day? Because they gonna play on Christmas Day?

829
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: Do you think that's happening this year?

830
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: There is right, it will get the hammer and chisel out.

831
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: I will tattoo that on my arm.

832
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: I would tend to agree that. Okay, now that that

833
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: I want to put on the white tattoo I'm not

834
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: getting a tattooed playing on Christmas.

835
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: That's how confident I am that the Bills will play.

836
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: I would tend to lean in favor of your supposition, because, uh,

837
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 1: not only do the Bills have an enormously attractive home

838
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: schedule as it pertains to the television networks Baltimore, the Saints,

839
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: the Bucks, the Chiefs, the Eagles, the Bengals. I mean,

840
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: my god, you have a lot to pick from just

841
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: on the home slate alone.

842
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: The whole games are phenomenon.

843
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: That gives me hope that if the Bills do in

844
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: fact play on Christmas, it will hopefully be at home.

845
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: Let's throw in the fact that there is a all

846
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: Mark movie featuring the Bills for Christmas season. And oh,

847
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: by the way, you have an NFL MVP that you

848
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: can unwrap, so and oh you got another one.

849
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna snow.

850
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: Well that too.

851
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: They love it, but networks a little, they do love it.

852
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna get We're gonna say there is four o'clock

853
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: Thursday game on Christmas, the four o'clock there's gonna be.

854
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: You've got it down, there's going to start time.

855
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: Seventy five million people tuned in to the four o'clock

856
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: Christmas Day game with Josh Allen facing Lamar Jackson or

857
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes or Jalen Hurts for Joe Burrow.

858
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: Not to mention last year in the stadium, right, let

859
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: me throw that on top of the fire too and

860
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: get the U log rolling because.

861
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: And that will be like two weeks before the end

862
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: of the regular season. And yeah, maybe I'm right there

863
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: with you.

864
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: I would surmise there is a greater than ninety percent chance.

865
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: And I'm just guessing. I don't know anything.

866
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm not getting it, but I'm not getting a

867
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: tattoo in my arm just for a ninety percent chance.

868
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: It's it's happening. Yeah, it is.

869
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: Because when you have the Chiefs, the Eagles, the Ravens,

870
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: the Bengals, and the Bucks all playoff teams at the

871
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: exception of Cincinnati on your home schedule, They're gonna find

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Speaker 1: a way to put one of those on Christmas, right, Yeah. Yeah,

873
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Speaker 1: And you have the NFL MVP and the defending MVP

874
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Speaker 1: and the possibility of snow and you got.

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Speaker 2: A two time you got a two time MVP and

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00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: Lamar who's a possibility? You got it? Is it Pat

877
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: multiple or just one MV? He's got multiple, all right,

878
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Speaker 2: so Pat's up multiple MVP. You got Jalen Hurts and

879
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles defending world champions coming in depending on

880
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: how their seasons going or all that. I mean, come on,

881
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: and you got to you gotta make the schedule in

882
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Speaker 2: a month.

883
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Speaker 1: It makes too much sense to not happen.

884
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Speaker 2: So it's just questionable they will time.

885
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Speaker 1: In all likelihood, I would anticipate a Christmas.

886
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Speaker 2: Day game, which time slots are gonna be? That's all

887
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Speaker 2: there is to it. Yeah, is it gonna be a

888
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 2: snow game? And let's o'clock night, you know, seven o'clock

889
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Speaker 2: kickkick kickoff, eight twenty whatever it is, or the four

890
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: to thirty game or the one o'clock game. Yeah, that's

891
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Speaker 2: that's the only question that there is.

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Speaker 1: Christmas on a Thursday for this football season. We got

893
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Speaker 1: to take a break here, but when we come back,

894
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Speaker 1: we're gonna set the table on our topic of discussion today,

895
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Speaker 1: in the wake of the Christian Benford contract extension signing,

896
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Speaker 1: would you put more emphasis on the Bill's pass rush

897
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Speaker 1: or coverage in the draft concerning their defense? You lean

898
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: towards pass rush or do you lean towards coverage when

899
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Speaker 1: the Bills reach the draft, you let us know at

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Speaker 1: eighth three zero five fifty one eight eight eight five

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00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty the numbers to get on board.

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Speaker 1: We're back with your phone calls. Next here on one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Collide of Health. It's Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: Radio heading into the draft. Would you put more emphasis

905
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: on the Bill's pass rush or the Bill's coverage? It's

906
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: been an on going debate. We want to get to

907
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Speaker 1: the bottom of it today at eight oh three zero

908
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Speaker 1: five fifty one eighty eight five point fifty two five

909
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: fifty whether to address the defensive front line or the

910
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: defensive back line. Yes, Christian Benford's in the fold for

911
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: the next four years, and that's all well and good.

912
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: But that position is thin. And that's a description that

913
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: even Brandon Bean used to describe the cornerback spot. So

914
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: we know that position is light on numbers. So two

915
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: is defensive tackle. I mean they have some players there.

916
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: We know they added Joy Jody Joey Bosa at defensive

917
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: end and Larry Ogan Joby at defensive tackle, though he

918
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Speaker 1: won't be ready for the first six games. He'll be

919
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: out on suspension. But where are you placing greater emphasis?

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00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: For example, you know the Bills have ten picks. Let's

921
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Speaker 1: say they come out of the draft with eight. Do

922
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: you want three defensive linemen and a corner or do

923
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: you want a couple of corners and a defensive tackle

924
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: and you'll be happy. Where are you putting the emphasis

925
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: for Buffalo's defense on the pass rush or on the coverage?

926
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Speaker 1: Eight oh three oh five fifty? Hard?

927
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's hard to look at the Bills roster

928
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Speaker 2: and where they're at with their linebacker rotation to say

929
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Speaker 2: you're gonna you know, even if you put all your

930
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: picks into defense, you may you're not gonna take a

931
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Speaker 2: stand up linebacker. You know you're gonna take D Lineman

932
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: and dbs. You might take safeties and corners, yep, But

933
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Speaker 2: man oh man, and maybe there is a stand up

934
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: guy off the ball where you can put with Dorian

935
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Speaker 2: Williams and you know, Terrell Bernard Milano that crew. Maybe

936
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Speaker 2: there is another guy, Joe Andresen. Maybe there is a

937
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: guy you want to throw in there. Maybe I don't know,

938
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Speaker 2: but right now, you draft D Lineman, you draft corners,

939
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 2: You draft safeties, that's it.

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Speaker 1: At least you have numbers at the linebacker position. Inspector too,

941
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: that's right. So at least you have numbers at the

942
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: linebacker position. You can't really say you do at corner,

943
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: not enough number anyway. And safety I think could use

944
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: a little jolt, even though you re sign Damar and

945
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: you sign Derek Forrest, the free agent from Washington, So

946
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 1: your numbers are a little better there, you know, knowing

947
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: that you still have Taylor rap Cole, Bishop cam Lewis.

948
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Speaker 1: But corner, you can't say it. You need more people there.

949
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Speaker 1: So eight h three zero five fifty one eighty eight

950
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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty got open lines for you there.

951
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Speaker 1: And look, I'll be the first to tell you, Steve,

952
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: and I understand that the draft doesn't work this way

953
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Speaker 1: where you say, well, I want to come out of

954
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Speaker 1: the draft with three defensive linemen and two corners and

955
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Speaker 1: the rest. I don't really give a wood. As long

956
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Speaker 1: as we address though, we realize the draft doesn't work

957
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: that way, especially when you're picking as late in the

958
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Speaker 1: round as the Bills are. A lot is going to

959
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: happen in front of them that is going to kind

960
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: of steer their direction to some degree from a value perspective.

961
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Speaker 1: But all that being said, these are positions that have

962
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Speaker 1: to be addressed.

963
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: You get in this draft and even you know, on

964
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 2: one of the big boards where they drank every player

965
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 2: artists of their position, who's going to be the best

966
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Speaker 2: pro And they try and do it all the way

967
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: down through the first guy that pops up at a

968
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Speaker 2: corners at number seventeen, and then you get a safety

969
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 2: at nineteen. The rest of them is edge, defensive line,

970
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: edge defensive line. You know, a couple of wide receivers

971
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: you get, you know, then you get another safety. So

972
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a chance at thirty, even if the

973
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Speaker 2: Bills do pick thirty, which they are not going to.

974
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: Even if they do pick at thirty, they're gonna get

975
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 2: a chance at a really good player at one of

976
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: those spots, at corner, at safety, at D line. Who's

977
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 2: it going to be? And then you got you got

978
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: the fifty six and the sixty two pick as well.

979
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: You know, I'm how do you want those three picks

980
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: to look when it comes down to.

981
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Speaker 1: It, where do you put your emphasis? Eighth three zero

982
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five

983
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: point fifty the numbers to get on board, and we

984
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: are wide open for phone calls in the second and

985
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: a half of the show because we had Christian Benford

986
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: on in our opening segment he of the new contract extension.

987
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Speaker 1: But let's crack open the tweets sheet here for now

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Speaker 1: while the calls come in in terms of whether you'd

989
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: put more emphasis on the Bill's pass rush or the

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Speaker 1: Bill's coverage in the draft Defensively tweet sheet brought to

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, and Jeremy says, pass rush. Yes,

993
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: our secondary isn't the strongest, but no one can cover

994
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: forever if there's zero pressure up front, right, And I

995
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: would say I would tend to want to put the

996
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: emphasis on the defensive front as well, because if you

997
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: have a good pass rush, your coverage group doesn't have

998
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: to be uber talent.

999
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: They work hand in hand, no question about it. But

1000
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: the simple fact of the matters is that, yes, every

1001
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: team would want a front four that can get home

1002
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: in a second and a half. Somewhere one of the

1003
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: four it's you just can't get there. Certainly, you get

1004
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: into a game like they did in the Super Bowl

1005
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: with the Eagles, and all of a sudden it shows

1006
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: up where you've got a team that's a little bit

1007
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: less than sharp at their offensive line or their tackles,

1008
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: whatever you want to say, and you you're hitting on

1009
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: all cylinders and you're in a big game and all

1010
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: of a sudden it shows up. It's the same thing

1011
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: and happened to Peyton Manning and a Super Bowl back

1012
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 2: in with the Broncos when they hung. He had fifty

1013
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: six throwing touchdowns on the season and got crushed in

1014
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl because because forty yeah to six, I

1015
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: think they have because the pressure got there. Now every

1016
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: single time he dropped back, the pressure was in his face.

1017
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: It's a magic elixir. The problem is you see it

1018
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: like once every twenty years from some random team. Yeah,

1019
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: you can't do it. You can't. You're not going to

1020
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 2: put it all in one off season. You're not gonna

1021
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: build that kind of dominance. The Eagles didn't do it

1022
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: in one off season, and it'll be interesting to see

1023
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: how long they can hold it together.

1024
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: They've already had some free agent losses. I mean, yeah,

1025
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: so so to say Joey Bosa is awesome he's a

1026
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: great player and he's gonna help, you know, with Rousseau

1027
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: on the other side, all that stuff.

1028
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: It's all going on. But even so, you're not gonna

1029
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 2: build a dominant pass rush in one off season. He's

1030
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: not gonna do it. Even if you draft a guy

1031
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: like Abdual Carter, he'll be good. He may he may

1032
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: even get double digit sacks, but that's not enough. Look

1033
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: at the Cincinnati Bengals had a guy with seventeen and

1034
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: a half sacks. Their defense was horrible. So you defense.

1035
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: The reason I'm saying all this defensive line, dominant pass rushes,

1036
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: you don't build him in one off season. The Bills

1037
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: are gonna they can get better. We all agree they

1038
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 2: need to get better. They've made steps towards getting better.

1039
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: Do you want him to continue to do that in

1040
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: this draft or you say, let's let's let's put some

1041
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 2: attention to the back end as well. We need you know,

1042
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: I mean, certainly we all feel like their defense needs help.

1043
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: Their offense was gangbusters this last this last season. The

1044
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: defense is what is begging for some people.

1045
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: Break time for us here, we're at the top of

1046
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: the hour, but we will hit the phones when we return,

1047
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: We'll lead off with Steven Syracuse and others holding at

1048
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty, big long segment coming up,

1049
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: so we'll get to everybody when we return. Here on

1050
00:51:18,520 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Collide Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1051
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 2: This the One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: Pur number two here on Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Taskier

1053
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: on defense? Would you put more emphasis on the Bill's

1054
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: pass rush or Bill's coverage in the draft? Bill's have

1055
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: ten picks at their disposal. You tell us where the

1056
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: emphasis should lie in refortifying a defense that needs to

1057
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: improve after finishing twenty ninth and third down defense last year,

1058
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: eighteenth in sacks with thirty seven and middle of the

1059
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: pack in run defense eight oh three five p fifty

1060
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: the number to get on board one eight eight eight

1061
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: five point fifty two five point fifty. As promised, we

1062
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Speaker 1: lead off with Steve in Syracuse. What do you got

1063
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Speaker 1: for Steve? You're on One Bill's Live.

1064
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 6: No question defense first, no question about it. Not even

1065
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 6: close corners you can get later in a draft or

1066
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 6: a diamond dozen. I don't care what you say. We

1067
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 6: picked before, but it wasn't the same wasn't good. But

1068
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 6: we need at least two, maybe three defensive tackles and

1069
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 6: an edge rusher because the ones we have now didn't

1070
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 6: do the job either. They may be some of them

1071
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 6: might be replaced, like Oliver per Chains, they might trade

1072
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 6: him or something, but they got to stick with the defense.

1073
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 6: Look at the schedule we got next year at home.

1074
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 6: It's brutal. It's brutal. You got you better have a

1075
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 6: strong defensive line. And if a defensive line and an

1076
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 6: edge rusher will make the corners, even average corner look

1077
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 6: better because they're going to get to the cornerback quarterback,

1078
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 6: we don't have time to throw the ball. But the

1079
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 6: opposite way, your corners are going to have to be

1080
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 6: all pro because they're going to pass us to death.

1081
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Speaker 6: Back there. No, you gotta have the defense pass rush,

1082
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Speaker 6: no question about it. Please. I'm tired of hearing the

1083
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 6: people calling in the first choice a corner, corner, corner

1084
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 6: blown a corner. If you need a corner, yes, but

1085
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 6: not this year. We got first time in years that

1086
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 6: we're gonna have a lot of people to pick from

1087
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 6: and a defensive line. We never had that luxury before,

1088
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 6: even late in the draft We're going to be fine

1089
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 6: if we play strict that defen get that line in there,

1090
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 6: because next year, year after you might not have a

1091
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 6: luxury having all these good defensive linemen in there. May

1092
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 6: be the apposite next year it's the corners. Corners are better, sure,

1093
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 6: no question about it. But we got to build up

1094
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 6: that defensive line first. You gotta do it. We got

1095
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 6: a brutal schedule at home next year. They could lose

1096
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 6: four games next year at home. They're not careful. And

1097
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 6: I think Bean and Ben McDermot, Brandon Bean is a

1098
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 6: great guy. He's smart enough to be caught in that

1099
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 6: trap where get the corners first. No, to just really disagree,

1100
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 6: all right, thanks to you.

1101
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean does say you can never have enough defensive lineman,

1102
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: and he has said that before.

1103
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 2: So I can't disagree with Steve. I get it. Yeah,

1104
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how well you're gonna do with with

1105
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: picks thirty.

1106
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: Fifty six, six sixty two, but I'm with you. I

1107
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: would say. The only counter argument, so what Steve said

1108
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: is the proliferation of the quick game in passing offenses

1109
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: league wide. You could have all world pass rushers out

1110
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: there and the quarterbacks getting it out in one and

1111
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: a half to two seconds. There's nobody in the league

1112
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: that gets to the quarterback that far.

1113
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: I'll say this though, the Bills have good success against

1114
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins because they run that the ball has

1115
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: to get out of to his hands quick and the

1116
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 2: Bills are really good at shutting down his first read.

1117
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 2: You think back at about some of the you know,

1118
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: the monumental games the Bills have played against the Dolphins.

1119
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: They have forced the Dolphins either to Tua to pump

1120
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 2: fake it because he can't the ball's not there. They've

1121
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: got it shut off and then to start looking to

1122
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 2: his second option, or he drops back and has to

1123
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: go over the top.

1124
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: But what did they do very effectively in the second

1125
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: meeting when it took a sixty one yard field goal

1126
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: from Tyler Bass to win the game. They threw it

1127
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 1: to devon a Chan in the flat like fifteen times

1128
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: and there was no answer for that.

1129
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: You got course, but just got to tackle. You gotta

1130
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 2: have a plan to take away those first quick reads.

1131
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: But you're right. If you can't do that, yeah, teams

1132
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 2: are gonna light you up. Corners are only can only

1133
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 2: cover for so long. But there's just too much space

1134
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: back there in the athletes in the NFL are just

1135
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: too good to cover up. So yeah, that I would

1136
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: agree with Steve. I'm I'm all about it. The defensive

1137
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: line is awesome and hopefully you get a guy that

1138
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: outperforms a thirtieth pick in the draft. Spot.

1139
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah to Mark in Jersey City, next, what's up? Mark?

1140
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 9: Good afing and gentlemen, thanks for taking my call. It's

1141
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,959
Speaker 9: gotta be sure. I gott to just reiterate defensive line.

1142
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 9: I mean, you look at their biggest failings and being says,

1143
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 9: you know, it's always when you lost it, it leaves

1144
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 9: you what you need to do. And if you look

1145
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 9: at where when they've lost in the playoffs, it was

1146
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 9: just a lack of pass rush nonexistent. And then it

1147
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 9: gets more frustrating when you watch like a preceding team

1148
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 9: just destroy. You know, whether it's k c and the

1149
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 9: Super Bowl twice or you know Houston, you know, not

1150
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 9: being able to get Watson on the ground and kneel

1151
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 9: and a lot of run into each other, and you know,

1152
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 9: it's just every time it's the lack of where Burrow

1153
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 9: just stands back there and throws five yard routes with

1154
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 9: the receivers, you know, getting no push. It's just it's unfortunate.

1155
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 9: But they have a great class lined up. I think,

1156
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 9: you know, with these suspensions, it almost say it forces

1157
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 9: their hand, but it almost forces their hand. But I

1158
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 9: think the class lines up, the need lines up, and

1159
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 9: I think we see probably three defensive linemen, two defensive tackles,

1160
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 9: an edge or I think it's perfect. I think they can.

1161
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 9: There's so many different variations.

1162
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 10: They can go body types, a plugger, and like the

1163
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 10: previous caller just said, there it's a gauntlet. I mean,

1164
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 10: you're assuming everybody's going to be healthy and everybody's going

1165
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 10: to line up with their best twenty two. But that's

1166
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 10: not always the way the NFL works. But thanks for

1167
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 10: taking my.

1168
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. Yeah, that's a good, good point, Mark. Yeah,

1169
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: the homes, the schedule is what it is. No question,

1170
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: you're trying to build your team with the best players

1171
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: you can. And I don't have a problem, like you said,

1172
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: at this point, when it's all theoretical, give me two

1173
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: edges and a tackle or two tackles on an edge

1174
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 2: in those first three picks, and then get some athletes

1175
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: at the back end like you did. You have done

1176
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: in the past, showing the great ability to do Taron Johnson,

1177
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: Christian Benford, Matt Mulano. Give me some athletes in the

1178
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: later rounds. There's a ton of them, so you know,

1179
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: the guys who are genetically different tend to filter to

1180
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: the top of these draft boards. This year, it seems

1181
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: like there's gonna be a lot of them and get.

1182
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: Some not for nothing. The big guys tend to go sooner,

1183
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: So if you want to get in on that party,

1184
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have to lean towards d Lion sooner

1185
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: rather than later to get some of the best of

1186
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: the crop. Let's go to Orca in West Seneca. A

1187
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: good day to be an Orca. It is pouring here.

1188
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 5: It's just scoring over here too. Guys. Hey, Steve, good luck.

1189
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 5: I hope you'll make it before my lifetime is over with.

1190
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 5: Chris Craig's out on the radio. I just got one.

1191
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: Question, Okay, go ahead.

1192
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 5: Oh how did run did Brandon Bean get fleeced on

1193
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 5: these two big tackles that he signed not knowing that

1194
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 5: they had uh suspensions coming up?

1195
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: One bet, Yeah, Mike Hoyt. They did know. They liked

1196
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: the player a lot, and they didn't mind the six

1197
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: game suspension. They were willing to live with that, and

1198
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: that's why they signed him to a three year deal.

1199
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't just a one year deal. They signed with

1200
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: three a lot. Ogan Joby. Uh, they didn't know, and

1201
00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean was like, you know, they might not have

1202
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: done it. And in fact, i'm they may have adjusted

1203
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: the numbers on the contract when they found because to

1204
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: his credit, ogin Joby told him before he signed the deal,

1205
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: they say, hey, you're going to you know this came

1206
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: out and they I get the feeling they might have

1207
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: adjusted the cut numbers right before his own.

1208
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: Originally it was reported to be a one year deal

1209
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: for eight point three million. Knowing the guy is going

1210
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: to miss six games on suspension, it's not unreasonable to

1211
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: think that they amended the terms a little bit. And yeah,

1212
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: Steve is right. Brandon Bean even said in his press conference,

1213
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: he said, look, I was willing to take on one

1214
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: player that I knew was serving as suspension, and you

1215
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: know I would not have done too, but the circumstances

1216
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: were this. Ogin Joby agrees to terms. En route to

1217
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: flying to Buffalo to sign the contract, he learns that

1218
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: he was flagged for a PED violation on a on

1219
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: a test. Being up front, he tells Brandon Bean before

1220
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: he signs the contract, Hey, I want to be upfront

1221
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: with you. I just got noticed notified that I got

1222
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: flagged for a PD violation, first time in my eight

1223
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: year career. I don't know how, but that's what it is.

1224
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: Brandon calls the league. The league didn't even know yet

1225
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: that Larry Ogunjobi was flagged for a PD violation because

1226
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: the players notified first, then the league, then the club

1227
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: they belonged to. So it was all very unexpected based

1228
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: on Ogunjobi's history, and he said, Brandon said, the reason

1229
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: we signed him anyway was because in that allotted amount

1230
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: of time from the time they agreed to terms with

1231
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: Ogunjobi to the time he flew into town and told

1232
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: them of his positive PED test, other considerations at the

1233
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: defensive tackle position were already off the market, and signed

1234
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: Ogunjobi was the best option they had left at the position,

1235
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: and so that's why they signed him anyway. Really, to

1236
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: be honest, Brandon Bean just got caught between a rock

1237
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: and a heart place without any other good alternative options.

1238
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: So this is how they have to ride it. Out

1239
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: through the first six weeks of the season unfortunately. But

1240
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: to our previous college point, Steve, it almost it almost

1241
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: raises the level of urgency to add defensive lineman knowing

1242
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have Ogan, Joby or Hoyt for the

1243
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: first six games of the season.

1244
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: That's right. So that's how it happened.

1245
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to Doc and Williamsville next.

1246
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 6: What's up, Doc, Well, I got to tell.

1247
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 11: You that your question should be based on philosophy. You're

1248
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 11: going to defend the pass or you're going to rush

1249
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 11: the passer. I don't think you can do both. I

1250
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 11: don't think there's enough talent available under the cap to.

1251
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: Do both, not even in the not even in the

1252
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: draft this year.

1253
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 11: Doc, it's hard to say. It's hard to say drafts

1254
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 11: or crapshoot. The only thing I can say about the draft,

1255
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 11: and I heard it on your show, don't mess, don't

1256
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 11: pass up talent for need. Take the best player available

1257
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 11: and make them, make them fit into your your your philosophy.

1258
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 11: And again, are you going to defend the pass that

1259
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 11: means you need rushers you don't have them, or the

1260
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 11: other way around. If you're rushing, you don't need defenders.

1261
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 11: So you've got to come up with a philosophy here,

1262
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 11: and it should be when you're picking players.

1263
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. Yeah, Doc, that's that's a great point.

1264
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 2: And I've said it too. That's kind of you go with.

1265
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: You get the best players you can, whether they're DBS

1266
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: or DT's right, and then you find your recipe for

1267
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: the way you're going to win. You know, week to week,

1268
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: how are you gonna beat Are you gonna beat the

1269
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: Eagles the same way you beat the Bengals? Probably not,

1270
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: But you find you get your players and you get

1271
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: the best ones you can. So if you're looking at

1272
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: the board. The problem is with that is this You're

1273
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: sitting here looking at your roster and the best player

1274
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 2: on the board is now a running back. Well, now

1275
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: what you're gonna pass up a great running back because

1276
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 2: you need a defensive player. That's what you run into

1277
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: when it's best player on the board.

1278
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: When you're picking. As late as the Bills are too.

1279
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 2: That's right where you're picking. They left. That's that's the issue.

1280
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 2: That's the issue. And you go do that. All of

1281
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 2: a sudden, you got a draft like this draft that

1282
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 2: we're coming up on now you were talking, we need

1283
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 2: defensive backs, we need safeties, we need defensive tackle, we

1284
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 2: need edge guys. And there are all these guys in

1285
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 2: the draft, saw some but by the time you pick

1286
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: all that's left or tight ends and running backs, Now

1287
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? Now? What are you gonna back?

1288
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: You got three guards that are gonna be all pro guards.

1289
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 2: Now you're now what are you gonna do? Now you're

1290
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: gonna That's what you're looking at. That's a problem and

1291
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: that's what invariably it runs into with these draft and

1292
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: the draft boards.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I will say the chances are better

1294
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: this year that they're going to be able to find

1295
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: defensive line help when they're on the clock. There's a

1296
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: greater chance of it happening because the defensive tackle class

1297
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: is so deep. Just to quote one person, Daniel Jeremiah

1298
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: from NFL Network who was on our show at the combine,

1299
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: and he said, normally he has twelve defensive tackles over

1300
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 1: the course of the top ninety or so picks, which

1301
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Speaker 1: is essentially day one and day two. And he says

1302
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: this year he has double that. He has twenty four

1303
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: defensive tackles in his top ninety, so that at least

1304
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: enhances the chances that when the Bills are on the clock,

1305
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: they'll find a defensive tackle whose grade matches where they're

1306
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: picking on the board. So hopefully that happenstance comes to pass.

1307
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to carl In Pittsford next. What you got

1308
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: for us?

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01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 8: Carl, Hey, Chris, I got a hand it to you

1310
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 8: for saying what's up? Doc without laughing like that.

1311
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: I didn't even crack those of us old enough to

1312
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: remember bugs bunny.

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Speaker 8: Of it, So I gotta say a lot like Josh Allen,

1314
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 8: I'd like to play with the mock draft simulators, and

1315
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 8: what I'm finding is that if you get to the

1316
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 8: second round, you you're out of the top cornerbacks, and

1317
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 8: there's still good defensive linemen there. But it's like what

1318
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 8: you're just talking about, supply and demand. So I'd go,

1319
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 8: I'd go a defensive back first round, and then then

1320
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 8: start loading up second round and beyond, and then also

1321
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 8: pull up, pull up Christian Benford, and pull up pull

1322
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 8: a good a good potential uh dB in the in

1323
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Speaker 8: the late rounds.

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01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:33,959
Speaker 12: So that's what I got.

1325
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a valid point, Carl.

1326
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: You know supply and demand. I just told you the

1327
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: defensive tackle is uncommonly deep this year. Cornerback class is okay,

1328
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: but it's not as deep. And and we got to

1329
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: remember this too, Steve. Right now, as the roster currently stands,

1330
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: you can make the argument you need a day one

1331
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: starter at the cornerback position opposite Christian Benford.

1332
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need a day one guy like starting on

1333
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: day one because they don't result isn't here, So you're

1334
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 2: gonna end up with either Dane Jackson over there or

1335
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 2: who Cam Lewis, JaMarcus ing JaMarcus Ingram. So yeah, that's

1336
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: you need a day one starter then, at least right

1337
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 2: now you do.

1338
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you may have to take that guy early

1339
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: just because of the hole you have to fill, right

1340
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: because you have day Kwon Jones and Ed Oliver to

1341
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: play defensive tackle in your starting lineup. You have Joey

1342
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: Bosa who can line up at edge opposite Greg Russ.

1343
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: So you have starters that at least to give you

1344
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: some degree of comfort.

1345
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 2: Solomon, you got guys, I don't know if you can

1346
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 2: say that at the other corner opposite Benford. Right, know

1347
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: that there's guys like that. So I'm I'm kind of

1348
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 2: with you on that. I'm but like I said, and

1349
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: he says, corners, there's no gonna be high level corners left.

1350
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 2: Christian Benford was not considered a high level corner. You

1351
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: can find guys with traits and a bill and you

1352
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 2: get them in your system. And this. You don't hear

1353
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: him say this too much, but I know there's got

1354
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: to be an attitude in this building. They're like, listen,

1355
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: we get that guy. He's gonna be way better for us,

1356
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: particularly maybe at that end of the defense. They've they've

1357
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 2: done it consistently, They've gone done it consistently. I mean,

1358
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 2: you've got guys like Taron Johnson and Christian Benford out

1359
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 2: there tearing it up. I just think, plus, you're gonna

1360
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 2: get there's more guys with elite traits in the defensive

1361
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 2: backfield industry than there are than there are guys with

1362
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: elite traits in the defensive line industry, just because big,

1363
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 2: huge athletic guys are rare. Normal sized guys anybody six

1364
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: two or less, six three or less who are elite athletes, Dude,

1365
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 2: there's a hundred of them in this draft.

1366
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:07,919
Speaker 1: Literally, So they don't all play cornerback, though some play receivers.

1367
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 1: You play safety.

1368
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 2: My point stands. My point stand, they're not unusual. Yes,

1369
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 2: there's prove it. You got guys sitting in the stands

1370
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 2: watching who are athletes. Know, Oh god, they're everywhere. I'm

1371
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,839
Speaker 2: I'm hyperbole. I get Yes, they're on every street corner

1372
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: in every major city. You got guys at the wreck

1373
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 2: thing that are better athletes than anybody in the building.

1374
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 2: That kind of stuff. I'm just My point is, there

1375
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 2: are way way more guys to take flyers on late

1376
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 2: in the draft at positions that don't require you to

1377
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 2: be genetically different. So get the guys who are rare

1378
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 2: just because of who they are and what they are physically,

1379
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,799
Speaker 2: get it. Get them higher in the draft. Don't panic

1380
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 2: that you can't get a sauce gardener at the top

1381
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: of the graphic draftic corner. There's a lot of guys

1382
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 2: that come after him that are just as good, are

1383
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 2: going to be, maybe even better in your system. So

1384
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 2: I get the I get the thing about corners. Maybe

1385
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 2: you want to take a corner high because you know

1386
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 2: those of the pool.

1387
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: Isn't the pool isn't as deep? No, No, you got

1388
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: hoppy Cock, says to Pop. Yes, yes, it's all blasphem.

1389
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: I'm almost yes, I'm almost as sure about that as

1390
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 2: I am about the Bills playing on Christmas this year.

1391
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: All right, So let's go to Bill and ken More next.

1392
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: What's up Bill?

1393
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 12: Yeah, thanks for saving and Carl. Get back to the

1394
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 12: defensive tackle. Grant is the guy from Michigan at Harbury.

1395
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 12: You know, he brought him in and I'm looking at

1396
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 12: the teams that are ahead of Buffalo, maybe started at

1397
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 12: seventeen with since he the Chargers, Harborough's team at twenty two,

1398
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 12: and the Rams at twenty six to seven. Of course

1399
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 12: you're going to get Kansas City down there, you know,

1400
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 12: past Buffalo. But what would it take for Buffaloes, say,

1401
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 12: move up to like twenty two or twenty one, first

1402
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 12: or second or fourth or what? What would be the

1403
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 12: combination of numbers?

1404
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually that much. Yeah, it's took a look

1405
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: at this Bill and we were looking at pick twenty

1406
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: four that goes to the Vikings. The Vikings only have

1407
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,879
Speaker 1: four picks in this entire draft. They might be interested

1408
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 1: in sliding back six spots and picking up a couple

1409
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: of picks. You can get up to Minnesota's pick from

1410
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: thirty to twenty four. With your first at thirty one

1411
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: of your twos and your two lower fifth round picks,

1412
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 1: that's enough of a package. So you have three fives

1413
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: right now. You take your two lower fives, you're high two,

1414
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: which is at fifty six along with thirty, and you

1415
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: can get up to twenty four. So if you're willing

1416
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: to do that, you can get to twenty four. It

1417
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: would take even a little more to get up to

1418
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,839
Speaker 1: twenty three or twenty two, but your point is well taken.

1419
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: You can make a case for a lot of these teams.

1420
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,799
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh at twenty one. They need help on the defensive interior.

1421
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: Cameron Hayward's not playing forever and they just lost Ogun

1422
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: Joby to the Bills. Chargers need help on the defensive line.

1423
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: Bay just lost their defense starting defensive tackle TJ. Slayton

1424
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: in free agency to Cincinnati. They have a defensive line need.

1425
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: Minnesota has a defensive line need. Houston could use some

1426
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: help there. The Rams are the only team that doesn't

1427
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: need defensive line hope, because they've drafted them all in

1428
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 1: the last two years. And you can even say Baltimore

1429
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: would take a defensive tackle. So that's the concern for me.

1430
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a run on D line talent, and

1431
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm worried the cupboard's gonna be bare by the time

1432
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 1: we get to thirty. And then you may have to

1433
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: pivot and take a corner because you got the third

1434
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: best corner in the draft. Stare and yet in the face.

1435
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, or maybe the top safety in the draft. All

1436
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 2: of that stuff's in the mix. You really could, because

1437
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 2: here's the thing. If if all this quirky stuff happens,

1438
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 2: teams start trading around, jumping around, hopping around, and a

1439
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 2: guy drops and drops and drops, and all of a sudden,

1440
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: you pick it, you trade, you don't trade, You pick

1441
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 2: it thirty and the top player at some position group

1442
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: falls to you. You know, well, that's hard. It's hard

1443
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 2: to walk away from a guy who is projected to

1444
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 2: be an All Pro caliber player, All Pro, not Pro Bowl,

1445
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: all Pro. That's a difference. You've got to think long

1446
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: and hard about whether you pass that guy. I don't

1447
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: know if you do, no matter what position he plays,

1448
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, that's that's a player that's gonna

1449
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: make your team better. But if you know, like I said,

1450
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 2: a minute ago. What are you gonna do if it's

1451
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 2: a guard or running.

1452
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: Back, you're trading out, you know, Yeah, you might trade

1453
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: out of that, trading out.

1454
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: That not that the guy. You don't think the guy

1455
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: is great, but he's not gonna help you enough in

1456
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 2: the right way.

1457
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 1: Yep.

1458
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yes, the Bills could move up or down,

1459
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 2: and I anticipate they will, so we just have to

1460
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 2: wait and see. I think they're gonna jump up and

1461
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: get a guy they like. I think we're gonna probably

1462
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 2: get an inkling of who it might be, whether it's

1463
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 2: a you know, Walter Nolan or you know Harmon from Oregon,

1464
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 2: one of those guys. Kenneth Grant has been mocked to

1465
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 2: the Bills fifty times so far. I don't know that

1466
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna be there.

1467
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have to see. We are up against the

1468
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: break here, but Kevin and Hamburg, Johnny and Buffalo will

1469
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: get to you when we return. As we are asking you,

1470
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: would you put more emphasis on the Bill's pass rush

1471
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: or the Bill's coverage team in the draft later this month?

1472
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: You let us know at eight h three h five

1473
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

1474
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: the numbers to get on board. Here on One Bill's Live,

1475
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: presented by Kilide Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. Back here

1476
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown Steve Taskier asking you today,

1477
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: where do you put the emphasis in the Bills draft?

1478
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,799
Speaker 1: More on their pass rush or more on their coverage.

1479
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 1: We're expecting it to be a defensive heavy draft. Where

1480
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: does your emphasis lie if you were making these picks

1481
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: for Buffalo. Back to the phones, we go at eight

1482
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: oh three zero five fifty one eight eight five point

1483
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty into Kevin in Hamburg. What's up, Kevin?

1484
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, how are you doing? Thanks for taking my call.

1485
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,799
Speaker 4: I want to bring up about I like the idea

1486
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 4: of secondary because I mean, even though the defensive mine

1487
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 4: is important, if a quarterback is worried about throwing on

1488
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 4: a secondary, then even the defensive rush don't get there.

1489
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,520
Speaker 4: They know you're still worried about throwing on a secondary

1490
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 4: if you get good secondary guys. Now, give me an

1491
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 4: example I was talking about. Take for example, just an

1492
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 4: example of the Niners when they were great. They knew

1493
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 4: opposing quarterbacks did not want to throw on Ronnie Lotts

1494
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 4: or people like that, so we if the rush didn't

1495
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 4: get there, it was gonna get there because you did

1496
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 4: not want to throw on those type of people. If

1497
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 4: they're good enough to make a quarterback throw, I'm not

1498
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 4: gonna throw on that guy. You know what I'm trying

1499
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 4: to say?

1500
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it.

1501
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: Shut down corners and stuff, Yeah, I get it.

1502
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: I think most teams are willing to live with a

1503
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 2: pass rush that forces the quarterback to at least get

1504
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 2: it out on time, right or hurry his throw right.

1505
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 2: So the very the baseline is that the guy's got

1506
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 2: to drop back and if he's supposed to be throwing it,

1507
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: he's got to throw it or he's gonna go down.

1508
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 2: Most teams can live with a pass rush like that,

1509
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 2: and that's kind of where the Bills have been living

1510
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 2: existing for you know, five or six years now. So

1511
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 2: that means your DB's got to cover for the you know,

1512
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 2: one point two you know, second and a half or

1513
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 2: two and a half seconds, whatever the number is. And

1514
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: if the ball's out, the quarterback doesn't want to throw

1515
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 2: it and he goes down or he's got to run around.

1516
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 2: So if you can live with a pass rush that's

1517
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 2: at that level, yeah, your dbs can thrive in that,

1518
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 2: and that's when it kind of works hand in hand.

1519
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: And then also when you when you're living like that,

1520
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 2: you can see it, you can see it. Then the

1521
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 2: coach has got to have a handle on what they're

1522
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: gonna do out of this formation, on this personnel. You

1523
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 2: got to be on it because then they say, listen,

1524
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: they're gonna do this or this. When they're in this

1525
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 2: personnel grouping and this formation, this down and distance, they're

1526
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 2: either gonna throw it here or they're gonna throw it here.

1527
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 2: And then you teach your guys to be ready for that,

1528
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 2: and then you win games like that. That's when your

1529
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: pass rush is working, your dbs are working, and then

1530
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: you're when you've got just enough, your coaches have to

1531
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 2: be on it and give them the tools to win

1532
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 2: because you know, nobody's beating anybody physically in that scenario.

1533
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 2: And then you know, so all of those things got

1534
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: to be in place. It's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot.

1535
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 2: And if you can just get one game wrecker to

1536
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: make the quarterback have to hurry it, Okay, that changes everything.

1537
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, I get it. Uh, you know, the DB's

1538
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,759
Speaker 2: can help out. They can cover these guys up quarterbacks

1539
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 2: back there patting the ball and then you know, the

1540
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 2: rush makes him move around, then the play comes apart.

1541
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: I get all of that, but the man, the absolute

1542
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: bare minimum you can live with is the ball's got

1543
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 2: to come out at least on time, right. I don't

1544
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 2: know that we've been there enough.

1545
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: Last year you would say you were not. Yeah, let's

1546
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: get back to the phones and to Johnny and Buffalo next.

1547
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:38,759
Speaker 1: What's up Johnny?

1548
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, thanks, you're taking my call. You know, I

1549
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 13: kind of agree with the point on taking a guy

1550
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 13: in the secondary. I mean, we've invested just countless assets

1551
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 13: in the defensive line over the past five years, you know,

1552
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 13: whether it's you know, at Oliver, Greg Russo, a Jpinett,

1553
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 13: and then you're you know, signing Don Miller and now

1554
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 13: Joey and you know you've signed the two free agents

1555
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 13: yet to suspended. But you've extended Oliver too. So I

1556
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 13: don't I can't see how we can't just plug and

1557
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 13: play for the first six games until those other guys

1558
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 13: come back. If anybody's good at plug and playing, it's Vicdermott.

1559
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 13: That's what he drives, That is getting the most out

1560
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 13: of whoever he's putting on the field, and to put

1561
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:25,480
Speaker 13: more assets into this defensive line without trading up significantly

1562
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 13: to get you know, one of the best guys there,

1563
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 13: I think would be a mistake. And you know, we

1564
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 13: have to address that secondary. It is awful, you know,

1565
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 13: with the exception of Benford, uh, you know, I think

1566
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 13: we definitely need to help. You know, hopefully Bishop takes

1567
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 13: that next step at safety. But opposite Benford, you know,

1568
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 13: obviously Tron Johnson's great as well. But what do we

1569
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 13: got there? And you know, to your guys point, if

1570
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 13: the best player available is a guard or a running

1571
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 13: back or something along those lines, I know you said,

1572
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 13: you know, you might have to trade back or something.

1573
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 13: But if you've got a guy you're looking at, you've

1574
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 13: got him graded as you know, one of the top

1575
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 13: ten guys in the draft, that on your board, and

1576
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 13: you're looking at him a pick thirty or you can

1577
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 13: trade up to get him. I don't see how you

1578
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 13: don't do it, especially with a guy like Josh Allen.

1579
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 13: I mean, look at what he did last year with

1580
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 13: what many people called preseason perhaps the worst talent on

1581
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 13: the offensive side of the ball. Yes, James Cook did well,

1582
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 13: but we still didn't get a ton out of key

1583
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 13: On Coleman. Last year as a rookie, we got some flashes,

1584
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 13: Shakir did well, kincaid, we're still waiting to pop. But

1585
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 13: other than that, we still don't have that elite talent

1586
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 13: on the offensive side of the ball. We're hoping josh

1587
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 13: Palmer does well, but let's add weapons, and I can't

1588
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 13: see us just investing more assets in that defensive line.

1589
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 13: It would just drive me crazy. So thank you guys,

1590
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 13: and have a good day, all right.

1591
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 1: But I get it, Johnny, I mean, to your point,

1592
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: they have made a lot of early draft investments in

1593
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: defensive linemen with mixed rates of success. I can't get

1594
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: on your train for offense as an emphasis over any

1595
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: of these defensive positions, though, because all you have to

1596
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 1: do is look at the numbers from last season. I mean,

1597
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: the Bills after the playoffs were over, led the league

1598
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: in points scored with the crew they had last year

1599
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: and made some similar type acquisitions with Joshua Palmer and

1600
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 1: Leviiska Chaneau who you know. You could argue Joshua Palmer

1601
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: is a bigger playmaker than Matt Collins, at least over

1602
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 1: his career he has been Leviiska Chaneau is probably here

1603
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: more for special teams than receiver, but it's another guy

1604
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: in the mix, and I think they believe a healthy

1605
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid will add something to the offensive side of

1606
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 1: the ball this year. After playing most of last year

1607
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: on two bad wheels. Your defense was twenty ninth and

1608
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 1: third down defense, they were in the bottom third of

1609
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: the league. In red zone defense, they were middle the

1610
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: pack as a run defense, and completion percentage against and

1611
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: passer rating against was in the bottom third of the

1612
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 1: league as well. All of that has to get better

1613
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 1: in short order, especially with the caliber offenses you got

1614
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: coming in here next year Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Baltimore.

1615
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you better load your defense up with some

1616
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: talent that you can put on the field sooner rather

1617
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: than later, or you're gonna be in a lot of

1618
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: shootouts and that's not where you want to live. So

1619
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: I can't get behind looking for more weapons when the

1620
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 1: Bills tried to do some of that in free agents.

1621
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying ignore offense in the draft, but the

1622
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: vast majority of the picks in this class have got

1623
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: to go to the defensive side of the ball.

1624
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 2: The simple fact of the matter is Josh elevates all

1625
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 2: those guys on that side of the ball, both on

1626
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 2: the offensive line and at the edges. All the skill

1627
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 2: guys are better. All those guys had as good years

1628
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 2: they've ever had last year getting it from Josh with

1629
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 2: the exception what Amari Cooper who got here after nine

1630
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 2: game with eight games left, You know that kind of thing.

1631
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 2: You still feel like you've got to feel like you

1632
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: got a lot left under the hood with Keon, he's

1633
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna get some more consistent play out of

1634
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 2: him the more he plays, obviously, if he's got to

1635
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: stay healthy and all of that stuff. Khalilshak here is

1636
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: everything he thought he would be. Josh Palmer, well, we'll see.

1637
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: He seems to be a better option to wide out

1638
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: than Mac Hollins was, and we loved Mac. So you

1639
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 2: can do more on the offensive side with Josh with less.

1640
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 2: You can't do more with less for anybody on the

1641
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 2: defensive side. Maybe Joey Bosa changes that equation when he plays,

1642
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 2: But right now, I mean nope, I don't think any

1643
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 2: none of the callers or anybody we all mentioned him.

1644
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 2: I don't catch a lot of faith.

1645
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: I don't think people feel comfortable stamping him as a

1646
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: sure thing because of his injury.

1647
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been injured, and now when he plays you

1648
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 2: expect it. Yeah, you expect him be that game wrecker guy.

1649
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: But now he's a ten year vet after being injured

1650
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 2: for a lot of his career, so you're thinking it's

1651
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 2: not going to get healthier. So it's a legitimate concern.

1652
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 2: There's nobody on that defense that is a game wrecker.

1653
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: There hasn't been for quite some time. So I have

1654
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 2: a hard time getting on board with best player available,

1655
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 2: even if you know, particularly on the offensive side of

1656
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 2: the ball, I'd say best player available no matter what

1657
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: defensive position he plays. I can't get away from that

1658
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 2: right now. I just feel like the roster's sitting at

1659
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: a spot where you can't ignore it any further.

1660
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 1: We always take mock drafts with a grain of salt,

1661
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 1: but our good friend Field Yates, who is a weekly

1662
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: visitor on this show during the season, has put together

1663
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: a two round mock draft, and he has the Bills

1664
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 1: at pick thirty, trading back into round two to pick

1665
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: thirty eight, and then moving back up a few spots

1666
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 1: to thirty four in a second trade with the Giants

1667
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: to take Kenneth Grant, the defensive tackle of Michigan. He

1668
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: apparently thinks he will be there as late as the

1669
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 1: top of round two, and then later in the round,

1670
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: knowing the Bills still have two other second round picks.

1671
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: He has the Bills taking cornerback Jacob Parrish at sixty two,

1672
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: the second of the or the last of the second

1673
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: round picks fifty six, He's got them taking Ohio State

1674
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: edge rusher JT. Twam Alou. So he goes defensive tackle,

1675
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: edge rusher, then corner. He picked Jacob Parrish out of

1676
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: Kansas State, who might be one of my favorite corners

1677
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: in the whole draft. So Field's kind of on board

1678
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: with us, or at least most of the callers, which

1679
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,759
Speaker 1: was D line, D line, D line, then worry about

1680
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 1: corner We had a few dissenting votes or cornerback first

1681
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 1: because the pool is deemed to be thinner. But it's

1682
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: an interesting take here by Field on a day where

1683
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:07,560
Speaker 1: we're discussing.

1684
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 2: This, I've got this another Marx has taken with the

1685
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 2: exact picks we got so far. No trades. Derek Harmon

1686
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 2: the defensive lineman from Oregon. He's edge rusher. Then safe

1687
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 2: safety Andrew mccudah Makuba, I'm sorry from Texas. Eric Ayan

1688
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 2: minor wide receivers from Stanford, Sanford. Then they got Ashton

1689
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:33,759
Speaker 2: Gloat from Louisville, and then uh Sam Schmail Mandon Junior's

1690
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 2: a linebacker.

1691
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: Oh, smile, London, Smile, London, smile. Many from Georgia.

1692
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 2: So you know, three defenders or four defenders out of

1693
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 2: the first five picks with a wide receiver sprinkled in.

1694
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to step aside here. But in our

1695
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: final segment, we'll get some final thoughts on the tweets

1696
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: sheet about whether you would put more emphasis on the

1697
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 1: Bill's pass rush or the Bill's coverage in the upcoming

1698
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: NFL draft that's coming away in next here on One

1699
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1700
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: All Right, some final thoughts on the tweetsheet here concerning

1701
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: putting more emphasis on the Bill's pass rush or the

1702
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: Bill's coverage in the upcoming draft. Big Deer says coverage

1703
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 1: is way more important. Franchise quarterbacks get rid of the

1704
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,719
Speaker 1: ball in less than three seconds. The pass rush won't

1705
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: win that race. Great coverage creates sacks. Chance says, I

1706
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: think another great corner will help the pass rushers more

1707
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 1: than another pass rusher will help the coverage. You know,

1708
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: there is one thing to be said about that, Steve.

1709
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: The corners don't come off the field. These pass rushers

1710
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: rotate ad nauseum throughout the game. You get a good

1711
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: corner that can start for you sixty five snaps.

1712
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 2: Right, And there's also nothing that says the offense has

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01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: to wait until third down to throw the football. So

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01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 2: you got your run stuffer on the field. They just

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01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 2: decide they're gonna throw it on first and second down,

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01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: then run it on third and short. That kind of thing.

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01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, they can go. They can play that personnel

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01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 2: card at you when you've got great pass rushers. The

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01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 2: only advantage to rotate in the pass rushers is you

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01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,600
Speaker 2: get fresh guys. The offensive line doesn't rotate.

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01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: So they're going to understand why they do it.

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01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, corners play every snap. That's a plus. There's

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01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:33,799
Speaker 2: no question about it. A good corners make a difference.

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01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: Jacob says d line is most important draft emphasis need

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01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: to improve talent. Jones is thirty three at Panessa and

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01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: Bosa are free agents after this season. Need to compete

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01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 1: defensively against top quarterbacks in the playoffs. The Bills d

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01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: is built to win in the regular season. Cornerback is

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01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 1: the bigger short term need, but it shouldn't be the

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01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: draft emphasis. That's kind of a good way to differentiate it.

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01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: You would say that the cornerback is the bigger need,

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01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: but he doesn't believe it should be the bigger DFT emphasis.

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01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: So he's all for taking a corner, but he thinks

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01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: attack defensive line in numbers here.

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01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 2: Like I said, you can get a guy. You can

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01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 2: get physical traits after the third, third, and fourth round.

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01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 2: You can get them all the way back in the

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01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 2: back of the draft. You can find a guy. And

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01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 2: if you if it hits right and you get the

1740
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 2: right guy, turn he turns into Christian Benford. You don't

1741
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:26,919
Speaker 2: need to get him at thirtieth.

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01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,759
Speaker 1: Which is why Jack says pass Rush McDermott and company

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01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: can coach up his secondary enough to disguise coverage his

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01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: full quarterbacks and get the most out of their players,

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01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 1: But if you can't get to the quarterback, coverage can

1746
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: only hold up so long. The NFL is about quarterback

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01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: and affecting or disrupting them. We have hours have to

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01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: get after their let's go. Thanks for listening, Thanks for

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01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 1: the commentary. Thanks to Christian Benford. We'll see you tomorrow

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01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,560
Speaker 1: at one