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Speaker 1: Here's Brian No, former Penn State All American, Rich Wornberger

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Speaker 1: and pix Wie's lead betting analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 4: Oh, what is going on? Everybody?

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Speaker 5: Conference championship games are off to.

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Speaker 5: Sports Radio studios in Sherman Oaks. Look at that fancy

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Speaker 5: backdrop over there, My goodnes morning everybody. How do you

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Speaker 5: feel Do you feel different in the studio?

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Speaker 6: I absolutely do, because I'm used to. I'm a creature

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Speaker 6: of habit, Brian, I'm a creature of habit. I'm used

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Speaker 6: to waking up in the morning, walking my dog, going

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Speaker 6: about my business, and then sitting in my big, comfy

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Speaker 6: command center chair and looking at like ten different screens.

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Speaker 6: So the screens are smaller today. But the people, Hello everybody, Yeah, hi,

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Speaker 6: the people. I got to watch Isaac Lohncron do an

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Speaker 6: update live. I feel like I should be. I feel

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Speaker 6: like it's like it should go into like a museum

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Speaker 6: of the radio Hall of Famers.

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Speaker 4: I feel like he might he might go jazz hands,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Yeah, a little bit right there.

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Speaker 5: Hey, how about Washington beating Oregon last night in the

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Speaker 5: PAC twelve championship game.

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Speaker 4: The final call is sensational.

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Speaker 5: Now, this is when Dylan Johnson, the Washington running back,

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Speaker 5: he rushed for a first down. He ice is the

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Speaker 5: game and just listen to how it sounded onto your field.

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Speaker 5: This is top notch type stuff. Here you go, you go,

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Speaker 5: you go, sweet bright john.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna go twelve ship Tilligen Johnson, he things up.

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Speaker 3: The first steps in the Huskies.

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Speaker 7: Are going to the coach fall playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe in? And there you go?

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Speaker 5: Do you believe in? Huskies? And listen. Dylan Johnson was

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Speaker 5: sensational last night. Also, Michael Pennix Junior throws for over

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Speaker 5: three hundred yards, throws a touchdown, and Washington pulls a stunner.

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Speaker 5: Big underdogs, Jared, and they get it done as an

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Speaker 5: outright dog. They win the game when they were like

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Speaker 5: as far as nine and a half ten point underdogs,

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Speaker 5: and they go out and they beat the Ducks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we need to talk about the numbers that made

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Speaker 6: them a ten point favorite or Oregon a ten point favorite.

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Speaker 6: I think that that number will go down as one

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Speaker 6: of the worst numbers maybe in the history of sports betting.

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Speaker 6: I mean this, And you could tell right early on

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Speaker 6: in the game. You could tell Washington knew what the

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Speaker 6: spread was. They were upset that they were the dog,

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Speaker 6: and they said, we're undefeated, we already beat this team.

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Speaker 6: Why are we a double digit underdog? And you saw

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Speaker 6: But it was very obvious early in that game that

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Speaker 6: Bonix in the moment for Oregon was a little bit

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Speaker 6: Like you're not coming back on Washington at that point

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Speaker 6: because Pennix is just too consistent, right, And that's been

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Speaker 6: the vibe for Washington all year. Maybe it hasn't been

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Speaker 6: in an attrition sport, that's all that. Like, the points

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Speaker 6: spread's irrelevant. They didn't cover a lot down the stretch, Brian,

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Speaker 6: but they they won, They won games, and.

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Speaker 4: Now they're in the playoff. Yeah they are.

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Speaker 5: And that was like you said, it was a fast start.

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Speaker 5: It was a weird game, fast start for Washington, and

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Speaker 5: when it was third and two and Washington they tossed

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Speaker 5: At that point, Oregon was only down by three and

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Speaker 5: It was just a strange game with offensive flow, because

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Speaker 5: there were times where both Washington and Oregon offensively looked unstoppable,

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Speaker 5: strange to see both offenses just either at light speed

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Speaker 4: Strange.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think we get to this point in

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Speaker 6: the season and the first and it's so interesting to

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Speaker 6: season kind of caught up with them a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I think from what I heard, Pennix was playing with

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Speaker 6: And then once you're in the game, right like all

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Speaker 6: the past, well, we almost lost Arizona State, We almost

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Speaker 6: a bounce goes the other way, none of that matters.

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Speaker 6: You're in the PAC twelve championship game. You're a huge underdog.

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Speaker 6: And I can't imagine you give a lot of credit

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Speaker 6: and you can't start slow in a game like that.

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Speaker 6: And Washington looked like the team from the first half.

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Speaker 6: And the irony is still not enough for Penix to

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Speaker 6: there's still he's still not gonna win the Heisman. It's

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Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels the mark. It was going all over the

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Speaker 6: is now it's gonna be Michigan. Right If Michigan wins today,

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Speaker 6: and we're assuming they do, Michigan and Washington and the

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Speaker 6: Rose Bowl, what's that number look like like? Is Michigan

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Speaker 6: another a double digit favorite again, Washing another double digit dog?

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Speaker 4: Probably not, But I just they're gonna be a tough out.

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Speaker 6: With Penis and that offense, and if they can figure

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Speaker 5: Well, and that's the thing you mentioned the Heisman odds

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Speaker 5: and cooked it's wild where bow knicks he went from

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Speaker 5: the favorite now he's a twelve to one long shot.

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Speaker 4: Bo Nix is not gonna win the Heisman.

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Speaker 5: Even Michael Pennix Junior, after beating Oregon twice, after putting

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Speaker 5: up huge numbers this season, he's ten to one today

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Speaker 5: right now as we speak on bet MGM. Jaden Daniels,

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Speaker 5: the LSU quarterback, he's minus fourteen hundred. You would have

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Speaker 5: to risk fourteen hundred dollars to win one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 5: That's how big of a favorite he is. It's Jaden

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Speaker 5: Daniels by a landslide. And I think It just shows

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Speaker 5: you how much momentum means in the high race. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: where going into that game, it was pretty much last

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Speaker 5: it's probably gonna be Jaden Daniels.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's strange.

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Speaker 5: That's the way it was when Michael Pennick Junior had

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Speaker 5: such a great season, but he just didn't have enough

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Speaker 4: I just can't believe it's that big of a gap.

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Speaker 5: This is a Grand Canyon size gap between Jaden Daniels

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Speaker 5: and Michael Pennix Junior.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand that.

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Speaker 6: I think there's two reasons for it. I do think

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Speaker 6: the recency bias matters a lot in this award. Whether

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Speaker 6: that's fair or not, we can debate that all day long.

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Speaker 6: We can debate whether or not Michael Pennix Junior the

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Speaker 6: high leverage games should count for more. Right, Like, if

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Speaker 6: we're grading on a scale LSU blowing out whatever team

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Speaker 6: down the stretch that has no chance to make any

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Speaker 6: playoff or you know, any any high leverage scenario do

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Speaker 6: those stats because his stats are better than Pennick. I

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Speaker 6: think when you watch Daniels, like, yeah, I think he's

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Speaker 6: a better player than Penix, But Penix played in a

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Speaker 6: bunch of high leverage games and Jane Daniels didn't. They

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Speaker 6: lost three times, So like it's kind of beauty's in

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Speaker 6: the eye of the beholder, Like do you view what

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Speaker 6: Pennix did in those pressure scenarios as more valuable? But

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Speaker 6: the market doesn't. The market thinks that the eye popping

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Speaker 6: kind of Lamar Jackson like stats where that Daniels put

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Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson type seed. They lost three games of the

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Speaker 6: year they won the Heisman or that Lamar Win Heisman.

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Speaker 6: But I do think he played in a few more

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Speaker 6: high leverage games. I think he actually I think I

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Speaker 6: thought he played the AC Championship that year. I might

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Speaker 6: be wrong, though, but it just it seems like the

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Speaker 6: voters and the market really takes into account what happened yesterday,

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Speaker 6: and it's fair. And I don't know if it's fair

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Speaker 6: obvious to me that that Daniels is gonna win eyes.

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Speaker 5: And look, man, Jaden Daniels was sensational this year. This

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Speaker 5: isn't to say that he wasn't. I just don't understand

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Speaker 5: the gap, right, Like when Jayden Daniels is minus fourteen

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Speaker 5: hundred and Michael Pennix Junior is ten to one. Right, Like,

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Speaker 5: I get that bo Nicks is twelve to one. Bow

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Speaker 5: Knicks lost. Oh yeah, right, Next, I get that if

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Speaker 5: you were a voter, what would you vote for?

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Speaker 4: Would you would you vote for? Would you rote for Penix?

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Speaker 6: I like, imagine you had to vote because the vote

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Speaker 6: the ballots are out right now, like they just went

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Speaker 6: out I think a couple days ago.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: This is what's crazy is I wouldn't I would vote

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Speaker 5: for Jaden Daniels to Maybe that's.

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Speaker 4: It's just looking car.

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Speaker 5: You can't find someone who looks at it differently and says, hey,

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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, who are you voting for?

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Speaker 4: I can sit here and say it shouldn't be that

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Speaker 4: wide of a gap.

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Speaker 5: But if my next breath is I would vote for

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Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels, Well that's.

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Speaker 4: What a lot of people are doing. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I guess the question is if you stack them up

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Speaker 6: like one by one and you said Okay, you got

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Speaker 6: to pick a guy to start the National Championship game.

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Speaker 5: That's The thing is, okay, if you just look at

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Speaker 5: But Pennix junior he accounted for thirty six touchdowns, right, yeah,

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Speaker 5: thirty three touchdown passes, three touchdown rushes. If you look

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Speaker 5: The LSU quarterback Pennix junior, he rushed for minus eighteen.

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Speaker 6: The sack, but also like the just the passing yards, right,

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Speaker 6: seventy percent completion rate twenty touchdowns, three picks, four hundred

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Speaker 5: at BETMGM. Okay, So we haven't seen this for fourteen years, Jared,

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Speaker 5: The last time they won the conference, they beat Nebraska

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Speaker 4: Let's get it out.

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Speaker 5: Like Mills Lane used to say, the great boxing judge

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Speaker 5: The headliner, big spread. Longhord is favored by a bunch here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think the timing of this game is

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Speaker 6: Plays at eleven am local time, this this is it

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Speaker 4: In the first half.

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Speaker 6: Don't fall a boon Knicks and start the game zero

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Speaker 6: It's Ali Gordon left right and center. Well, Texas runs

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Speaker 6: match that with Alan Bowman, who stone more interceptions and

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Speaker 4: Man, it's uh, it is jarring.

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Speaker 5: We just got done talking about Bo Nicks and Jaden

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Speaker 4: Touchdown wild right.

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Speaker 5: I'm not expecting Heisman win numbers from every quarterback in

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Speaker 6: And that's because Gordon's run for almost fifteen hundred yards

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Speaker 5: They give him so many touches. Yeah, it is, It

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Speaker 5: really is Oli Gordon. Like Ali, just do your thing, man,

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Speaker 5: Jared and Oli Gordon's at one hundred point five.

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Speaker 5: He's got to get there against the Longhorns and they're

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's gonna happen. I just look game

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Speaker 4: Just feed him and feed him and feed him.

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Speaker 5: Remember Zeke Elliott used to do the like the spoon

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Speaker 6: Well, here's the thing too about Oklahoma State. They won

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Speaker 6: you're crazy, You're absolutely nuts. Well, the win total, they're

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Speaker 6: and like all the tempo metrics.

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Speaker 4: So do they play fast today?

436
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Speaker 6: Because I would say, let's slow things down, give the

437
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Speaker 6: ball to Ali, and let's hope Texas makes the first mistake.

438
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Speaker 6: When you play fast, that's when the errors happen. And

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Speaker 6: if you make an error today against Texas, you're probably done.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well perfect, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And that's the thing is, I think Texas offensively, they'd

442
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Speaker 5: have to be so sloppy, they'd have to turn the

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Speaker 5: ball over quite a bit for this to be like

444
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Speaker 5: a fourth quarter. We might lose this type game. But

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Speaker 5: I can't wait, to your point, I can't wait to

446
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Speaker 5: see what the tempo is for Oklahoma State. Yeah, and

447
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Speaker 5: I can't wait to see what Ali Gordon does on

448
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Speaker 5: the ground because you start looking game by game, Jared,

449
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Speaker 5: and he's gone over one hundred yards and let's see eight.

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Speaker 4: Wow, this doesn't even sound right. Eight of the last

451
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Speaker 4: nine games, insane, he's gone over one hundred. How many

452
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Speaker 4: has gone over? He's gone over two hundred twice in

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Speaker 4: that spot.

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Speaker 5: But you start looking at this and you're like, man

455
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Speaker 5: one sixty six against BYU, won sixty four against Houston,

456
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Speaker 5: And then you pause for a second. You're like, does

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Speaker 5: BYU have what Texas has? Does Houston no run defense?

458
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Speaker 5: I have what Texas has?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: No Cincinnati Oklahoma?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 5: Like, you can play this game all day. So I

463
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Speaker 5: want to say, see if he can crack triple digits

464
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Speaker 5: against Texas. And you start thinking, hey, if you're down

465
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Speaker 5: by fourteen, seventeen twenty one, if it starts to get

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Speaker 5: out of.

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Speaker 4: Hand, how much are you running it at that point?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: So I would really all that kind of game he

470
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Speaker 5: has on the ground. I can't wait to see that.

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Speaker 4: Can Ali throw it too? Like he can catch it?

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Speaker 2: You can catch that.

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Speaker 5: The other thing is right, if he's not running it

474
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Speaker 5: great and they're throwing it a lot more seventeen and

475
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Speaker 5: a half receiving yards that I don't mind want to

476
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Speaker 5: jump off you know, right, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't mind that at all.

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Speaker 6: Well, you think about the game like game script when

479
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Speaker 6: you're betting props, the game script matters a lot. I

480
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Speaker 6: think it matters more in the NFL where the game

481
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Speaker 6: is very short, right the clock keeps running and teams scheme.

482
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Speaker 4: It out and the totals are lower.

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Speaker 6: So I think the game script matters more in the

484
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Speaker 6: NFL when you're targeting the props. But let's be honest,

485
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Speaker 6: based off of what I see on social media every day,

486
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Speaker 6: people don't like to bet sides and totals. They like

487
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Speaker 6: to bet props. I mean that is the soup de jore,

488
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Speaker 6: especially in the NFL. But now, because of how popular

489
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Speaker 6: these college players are, the college prop market and books

490
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Speaker 6: MGM doing a fantastic job at this. I was going through,

491
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Speaker 6: I was going, I was going through MAC Championship game

492
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Speaker 6: props last night on bet MGM. We're we're going we're

493
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Speaker 6: going deep dive with some of these props. But the

494
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Speaker 6: prop market in college football has becomes so deep that

495
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Speaker 6: you don't have to bet the sider total to make

496
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Speaker 6: a good wager on a game. You could look at

497
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Speaker 6: a receiving yard prop for a guy like Oli Gordon

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Speaker 6: and then you just think about it. Right, Oklahoma State's

499
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Speaker 6: gonna be behind. We think they're gonna be throwing it.

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Speaker 6: Texas's D line is like is like alpha one, alpha

501
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Speaker 6: two alpha the I mean they are going to be

502
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Speaker 6: getting after the quarterback and they're gonna shut down the

503
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Speaker 6: run well, screen pass, release the pressure. Like that makes

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Speaker 6: sense from a game script perspective.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely it does. You know who else makes sense? And

506
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Speaker 5: you mentioned popularity as well, right there, Jared making sense

507
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Speaker 5: popular check check. Isaac Lohen crown with us this morning

508
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Speaker 5: to spin us around what's going on?

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Speaker 10: I loow oh, another brilliant introduction.

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Speaker 11: Unfortunately with me census spelled CNTs. But we're going to

511
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Speaker 11: start with some big dollars because that's what college sports

512
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Speaker 11: is all about these days.

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Speaker 10: The PAC twelve.

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Speaker 11: Championship game in Vegas on Friday night and number four

515
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Speaker 11: Washington defeating six ranked Oregon thirty four to thirty one,

516
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Speaker 11: drop to thirteen and oh Michael Pennix junior twenty seven

517
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Speaker 11: of thirty nine for three nineteen Husky running back Dylan

518
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Speaker 11: Johnson one hundred and fifty two yards on twenty eight

519
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Speaker 11: carries with two touchdowns. Washington receiver Jalen McMillan nine catches

520
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Speaker 11: for one thirty one Now fellas, this, of course, was

521
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Speaker 11: the final Pac twelve football game ever, and because of

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Speaker 11: that getting widespread recirculation on social media.

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Speaker 10: Right now a.

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Speaker 11: Twenty nineteen clip of late great Washington State head coach

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Speaker 11: Mike leech Oh breaking down who would win in a

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Speaker 11: hypothetical fight between PAC twelve mascots.

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Speaker 12: Listen, first of all, what kind of mythical powers does

528
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Speaker 12: the sun devil have?

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Speaker 2: We got to consider that, I'm going.

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Speaker 12: To say, the wildcats out the trojan is. Does he

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Speaker 12: have a horse or is he on foot? Does he

532
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Speaker 12: have a bowl and arrow or just a sword? The

533
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Speaker 12: brewing definitely formidable. Another bear up their cow, the tray.

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Speaker 12: Imagine that trees can get chopped down unless we're going

535
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Speaker 12: to go with the bird, and somebody might get pecked

536
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Speaker 12: or something.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 12: Duck might lose interest in just fly away and get

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Speaker 12: out of there, which may be good advice under the circumstances.

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Speaker 12: The husky, no chance. The beaver, We'll see how long

541
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Speaker 12: that Beaver can hold his breath.

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Speaker 11: The late great, brilliant Mike Lee out in the NBA.

543
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Speaker 11: On Briday night, Denver wanted Phoenix one nineteen to one eleven.

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Speaker 11: Nikola yokicch twenty one point It's in sixteen assists. Kevin

545
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Speaker 11: Durant scored thirty in a losing cause, moving into tenth

546
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Speaker 11: place on the NBA's all time scoring list. That orleans

547
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Speaker 11: Pelicans over the San Antonio Spurs one twenty one to

548
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Speaker 11: one oh six. The Spurs, who played without Victor Woman

549
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Speaker 11: Yama because of right hip tightness, are now on a

550
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Speaker 11: fourteen game losing street. Fellas still can't get over that

551
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Speaker 11: mascot breakdown by the late great Mike leachs.

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Speaker 4: That was awesome. Back to you, it was awesome. Thank you, Ilo.

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Speaker 5: It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to kick Off, presented

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Speaker 5: by Bett MGM. I could just hear Husky fans saying, you.

555
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Speaker 4: Want to reevaluate?

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00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 5: Yeah right, Hi, I love that the Husky no chance

557
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 5: maybe in the the mascot showdown, true, but I don't

558
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: know what put do you see.

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Speaker 6: All the mascots in the court, So they were all

560
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Speaker 6: there last night, all the pac twelve mascots were in

561
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Speaker 6: the in the building last night, and it was there

562
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Speaker 6: was a lot of nostalgia. I mean, that was it,

563
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Speaker 6: like the pack Doll's done, It's over.

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Speaker 5: I hope, I hope Mike Leach was able to you

565
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Speaker 5: know what I mean in the after Yes, yes, and

566
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Speaker 5: and he's like, all right, he's really doing the math.

567
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Speaker 4: Kind of like the last like the alligator right, everybody

568
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Speaker 4: lined up.

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Speaker 5: Now he's doing the math even more, you know, I

570
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Speaker 5: I gotta look at it from a different perspective over here.

571
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Speaker 5: How about this the Transfer Portal, Jared. It opens on Monday,

572
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 5: and we got a couple of big name quarterbacks. They're

573
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 5: going to be on the move. Riley Leonard leaving Duke

574
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 5: the Notre Dame fighting Irish a possible destiny for sure.

575
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Speaker 6: Notre Dame is getting one of these guys, by the way,

576
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Speaker 6: so get I'm sure you're excited.

577
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: I'm excited about that.

578
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 5: How about dj You our guy dj ouy ungla Lay

579
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Speaker 5: He's leaving Oregon State. He's on the move again.

580
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the transfer Portal is Do you like it?

581
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Speaker 6: Do you like the current iteration of it, the way

582
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Speaker 6: that it's constructed right now, where literally it's like free

583
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Speaker 6: agency every off season.

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Speaker 4: I'm cool with it. I really don't have a problem

585
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Speaker 4: with it.

586
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 5: I get that the coaches they're tearing their hair out.

587
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 4: I hate it, you say.

588
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 6: You see Matt Rules press conference the other day, He's like,

589
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Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys realize, but it's like

590
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Speaker 6: a million dollars to bring a quarterback in.

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Speaker 4: Oh right, right, right?

592
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: He like he obviously is frustrated with Nebraska's current situation.

594
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Speaker 6: And I think a lot of coaches that were used

595
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 6: to having their run of the you know, pick of

596
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 6: the litter, so to say, are now having to relearn

597
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 6: how to like chew their food properly. And you know,

598
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 6: just as well as anyone. Like you get a coach

599
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Speaker 6: that's been in the college football circuit, recruiting circuit for

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Speaker 6: twenty thirty years, and he's used to doing one thing

601
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Speaker 6: a certain way, and now it's a completely different can

602
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Speaker 6: of worms. Coaches are going to push back and be

603
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 6: upset about it, and it's it's making the halves, the

604
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Speaker 6: gap between the haves and the haves knots a lot wider,

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Speaker 6: which is very intriguing.

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Speaker 5: Well, think about this, So in twenty nineteen, the percentage

607
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Speaker 5: of your roster in college football that were transfers six

608
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Speaker 5: point four percent in twenty twenty three twenty point five percent. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it we're seeing a lot more free agency slash right.

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00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, how about Drew Pine.

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Speaker 6: I saw Drew Pine's name pop up there and see

612
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Speaker 6: he's gonna get a lot of flies.

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Speaker 4: Actually the name that intrigued me the most was was

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Speaker 4: Cameron Ward.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he like wherever he ends up, especially if it's

616
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Speaker 6: like a Notre Dame or one of those type places

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Speaker 6: that program immediately.

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Speaker 4: I think becomes a bigger, bigger fish.

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Speaker 5: And Dante Moore, the UCLA quarterback, young guy young leaving

620
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 5: going elsewhere. That was an interesting one too. So open

621
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Speaker 5: for business on Monday, and some of these big names

622
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Speaker 5: with new schools, huge ripple effect, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 4: But I don't I don't mind it. I really don't.

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Speaker 5: I think that it's I think it's exciting for the sport.

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00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 5: I think it draws a lot of attention, gets a

626
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Speaker 5: lot of headlines. As long as the sport is being

627
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Speaker 5: talked about and we're intrigued. I think that's good for

628
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Speaker 5: college football largely. I think there are more positives than negatives.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 6: I think the regulation of it is the biggest issue

631
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Speaker 6: at this point, right, Like, I think it's new and

632
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Speaker 6: it's exciting, but my guess is it's because of the

633
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Speaker 6: lack of you know, rules around it. Probably some coaches

634
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Speaker 6: are learning how to cut some corners and you know,

635
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Speaker 6: make some hay in that department. I don't know enough

636
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Speaker 6: about the mechanics behind it to really give a strong

637
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Speaker 6: opinion on whether or not I like the way it's constructed,

638
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Speaker 6: but I think at its base form with guys being

639
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Speaker 6: able to make the right decision that best suits them,

640
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 6: because it's kind of like dating. Hate someone for a

641
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Speaker 6: little bit and then you're like, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what, tired of this? I didn't realize that you

643
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Speaker 4: do your toothbrush?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, you take the toothpaste from the autumn and

645
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Speaker 6: not the top or you know whatever.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm wanna move on from this.

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Speaker 6: And you know, those those nil deals and those actually

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Speaker 6: excuse me, the the recruiting deals that they sign, like

649
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Speaker 6: when they sign their letter of intent, like that used

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Speaker 6: to be like bound in blood.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like now you can get out of it really easily.

652
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Speaker 5: It's just like dating. I'm not getting enough playing time exactly.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly Yeah, you don't hear me enough. You never

654
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Speaker 5: do the laundry.

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Speaker 3: Check this out, par late letter.

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Speaker 5: Oh yes, Jared has been in the lab. You have

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Speaker 5: been drinking your haterraide I think to prepare for this.

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Speaker 4: You're right or wrong? Out in uh fade fashion over here?

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Speaker 4: What do you have for us?

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Speaker 6: My goodness, gracious Bryance. So we've watched Iowa a lot

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Speaker 6: this year, right, or at least if you do, you

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Speaker 6: might want, you know, to ask for a refund. But

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Speaker 6: I decided to take a different approach to it. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: there's less games, not as many underdogs for me to

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Speaker 6: kind of pluck out and put into this big stew

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Speaker 6: So we're targeting one game. And that's the beauty of

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Speaker 6: and you could make what I deemed to be a

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Speaker 6: very correlated parlay and throw a bunch of things together

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Speaker 6: that if one hits, they all kind of should hit,

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Speaker 6: like the domino effect. And we're not getting the payout

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Speaker 6: that we normally do usually ten fifteen twenty to one

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Speaker 6: is our payout. The payout on this one is plus

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Speaker 6: three hundred. But again it is focused on one game

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Speaker 6: later tonight between Michigan and Iowa. So here we go.

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Speaker 6: Iowa's offense is really bad. That's really the crux of

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Speaker 6: this parlay. We're gonna take Iowa to score, yes, and

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Speaker 6: Iowa Sam, who his name actually as Iowa Sam is

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna be happy. You're not gonna be cheering

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Speaker 4: after this one in Iowa.

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Speaker 6: So Iowa team total under two and a half in

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Speaker 6: the first quarter, basically them not to score in the

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Speaker 6: first quarter. Besides perhaps the safety, Iowa under three and

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Speaker 6: a half in the first half, So if they don't

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Speaker 6: score in the first quarter, well the odds of them

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Speaker 6: scoring more than three points in the first half probably

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Speaker 6: pretty low. And then we'll take the actual team total

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Speaker 6: for the game, which is Iowa six and a half,

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Speaker 6: and we'll obviously go under. Then we're gonna flip to

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Speaker 6: the other side of the ledger, because again you could

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Speaker 6: put all of these things together that are very correlated

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Speaker 6: into one single parlay and then bet them as one wager.

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Speaker 6: Michigan on the spread minus six and a half in

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Speaker 6: the first quarter, Michigan minus ten and a half in

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Speaker 6: the first half, and then an alternate spread for the

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Speaker 6: full game close to what the actual number is, Michigan

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Speaker 6: minus seventeen and a half. Now you put all six

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Speaker 6: of those together, we call it a ladder, kind of

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Speaker 6: sort of a ladder three to one over at bet MGM.

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Speaker 4: Not exactly the.

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Speaker 6: Juiciest, but I think it is a highly correlated and

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Speaker 6: based off what we've seen with Iowa highly probable parlay

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Speaker 6: tonight in the Big Ten championship game.

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Speaker 5: Well, hey, man, I obviously hope it hits, and it is.

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Speaker 5: It's just staggering that putting all of this together is

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Speaker 5: just plus three yea.

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Speaker 6: And that's because of how correlated it is. That's right,

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Speaker 6: But it's wild.

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Speaker 5: It is so wild because look, man, it's twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: three offense in college football. It's wide open, and so

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Speaker 5: when you're talking about, hey, for the game, the Iowa

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Speaker 5: team total is six and a half for the full game.

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Speaker 5: If they score a touchdown, you're cooked. That's still what

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Speaker 5: the line is.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the actual line for the game.

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Speaker 6: I think I was joking with this on Gottlieb's podcast yesterday,

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Speaker 6: I said, if Iowa scores a touchdown, they should stop

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Speaker 6: the game like they do when Lebron reaches a milestone,

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Speaker 6: right right, you should sign the ball and like, you know,

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Speaker 6: take it out.

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Speaker 4: Of play and like put it in like the college

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Speaker 4: Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 6: Like that's how crazy and you know, un improbable it

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Speaker 6: would be.

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Speaker 4: Michigan gives up a touchdown tonight. How would you feel?

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Speaker 4: Honest question?

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Speaker 5: Step into your Hawkeye fandom shoes for a second, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean? And we've got Iowa, samw I

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Speaker 5: do want to hear because think about it, their defense

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Speaker 5: has been awesome, awesome, and yet all you typically hear

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Speaker 5: about Iowa is how wretched their offense is.

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Speaker 4: And it is it is freaking us when we break

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Speaker 4: down the game. But how really bad.

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Speaker 5: If this is Penn State, If for me, if this

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Speaker 5: is Notre Dame and you're hearing everybody talk all this trash,

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Speaker 5: I mean, how would you feel about it? Would you

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Speaker 5: be like tearing your hair out? Guys, look at the defense? Though, right,

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Speaker 5: I probably would be like that. I would say, how

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Speaker 5: are you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to hear your listen.

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Speaker 13: I agree with everything you're saying, and uh, Basically, I

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Speaker 13: understand why I was a twenty three point underdog.

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Speaker 4: That being said, I'm tired of the disrespect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tired of it.

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Speaker 4: That's how too, they're gonna score a.

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Speaker 6: Touchdown, and they very well could, and if they do,

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Speaker 6: I'll lose my bet. But if they but also the

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Speaker 6: way I view it too, if they score a touch like, say,

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Speaker 6: for instance, I just bet the team total at six

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Speaker 6: and a half and we went under. Well, if they

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Speaker 6: score a touchdown, I lose that bet anyways, and I'm

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Speaker 6: probably gonna lose all the other bets in this little

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Speaker 6: ladder parlay thing I just cooked up. But I didn't

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Speaker 6: lay minus one fifteen for a team total. I'm getting

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Speaker 6: three to one. So that's just it's a fun way

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Speaker 6: to look at it. And I understand why people like

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Speaker 6: to bet a little to win a lot.

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Speaker 4: I understand.

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Speaker 6: That's why we do the parlay platter segment every week,

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Speaker 6: and we've lost every week because that's what parlays are.

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Speaker 6: They're losing wagers long term. But they're fun, and this

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Speaker 6: one's fun unless you're an eye with fan then it's

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Speaker 6: not fun.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well will be fun if they score and it's

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Speaker 5: like take that, Yeah, Hey.

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Speaker 6: They're down like fifteen to nothing and they score like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: we showed you, guys, we scored all right, come it

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Speaker 6: up next man.

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Speaker 5: It is a staggering stat regarding this game and this rivalry.

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Speaker 4: We'll give it to you next.

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we are less than two hours.

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Speaker 5: Away from kickoff here on Fox Sports Radios. Countdown to

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Speaker 5: We've got Georgia against Alabama in the SEC Championship game,

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Speaker 5: and if you go back to twenty ten, since that time,

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Speaker 5: Alabama has been favored in one hundred and ninety of

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Speaker 5: one hundred and ninety four games. Wow, each time they've

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Speaker 5: been an underdog, it's been against Georgia. Yeah, that's wild

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Speaker 5: to me. They've only been a dog against Georgia. No

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Speaker 5: pun intended with the dogs, and I didn't mean it

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Speaker 5: by like that, but that's wild that Bama has been

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Speaker 5: favored that much. One ninety out of one ninety four

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Speaker 5: is staggering. But the only times they've been a dog

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Speaker 5: it's against Georgia.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 6: I mean, and you want to talk about history. Georgia's

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Speaker 6: going for their thirtieth straight win tonight. The last time

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Speaker 6: they lost Bama in the SEC Championship game. Guess what,

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Speaker 6: Georgia went on to win the national title that year,

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Speaker 6: beating Bama. So it just these two teams are like,

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Speaker 6: it's like the Ora boris the snake eating its tail. Like,

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Speaker 6: it's just it's Alabama or Georgia. It's Georgia Alabama. And

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Speaker 6: one of those teams is gonna be in the playoff.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if both of them are. I don't

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Speaker 6: think so. But crazier things have happened in the college

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Speaker 6: role play. No, I think the winner tonight is in

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Speaker 6: and the loser is out. That's how I personally would

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Speaker 6: perceive it. I know there's a lot of debate, and

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Speaker 6: we can get into the CFP, but this specific game,

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Speaker 6: you want to say George's got the edge. Obviously they're

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Speaker 6: the favorite, and that's a fair statement to make. But

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Speaker 6: when I was going through this and doing the deep

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Speaker 6: dives and listen to a couple of the people who

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Speaker 6: I trust, you can make a really strong case why

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Speaker 6: Alabama's offense is just as well equipped to go blow

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Speaker 6: for blowing this game than Georgia is. And defensively speaking,

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Speaker 6: and this is the interesting part about this game, Brian,

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Speaker 6: because we view the SEC as this defensive juggernaut. I

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Speaker 6: would argue that both of these teams their identity this

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Speaker 6: year is offense, more so Georgia than Alabama. But neither

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Speaker 6: of these defenses have really impressed me over the last month.

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Speaker 6: Go watch Georgia getting pushed around by Missouri up front.

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Speaker 6: Like I do, think there is an element of offense

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Speaker 6: to this game that you might say to yourselves, Wow,

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Speaker 6: am I watching the SEC? Or am I watching incarnate

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Speaker 6: word go up and down the FCS field?

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Speaker 2: Here?

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Speaker 4: It's a different vibe here in the SEC this year,

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Speaker 4: It's very different.

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Speaker 5: I think the biggest part of this is what you

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Speaker 5: hit on if whoever wins the game, are they in

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Speaker 5: If it's Georgia, yes, if it's Alabama, maybe it depends

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Speaker 5: on how everything else shakes out around them, because this

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Speaker 5: could come down to Bama versus Texas for the final spot,

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Speaker 5: and if Texas has that head to head win at Bama.

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Speaker 5: That's got to count for something. That's gonna be a

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Speaker 5: tremendous debate if that's the way it shakes out, and

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Speaker 5: there's a lot that could change that. But if it's

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Speaker 5: Bama wins Texas wins, it's down to those two teams.

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Speaker 5: How do you discount Bama for taking down Georgia? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: but how do you discount Texas for beating Bama and

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Speaker 5: also only.

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Speaker 4: Having one loss?

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Speaker 6: This is I have gone back and forth the mental gymnastics,

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Speaker 6: you can call me some own biles this week, trying

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Speaker 6: to figure this out because I understand and I tweeted

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Speaker 6: this out. I've been so I've been doing this every

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Speaker 6: week on Monday or Tuesday, I send out my CFP

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Speaker 6: what I would pick and who I think is going

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Speaker 6: to be in. And a lot of people were upset

872
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 6: with me this week, a lot Texas people when I said,

873
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 6: if Bama wins, like they control their own destiny, and

874
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 6: the pushback was, wait a minute, well Texas beat Bama. Yeah,

875
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 6: So okay, let's let's plan this out. So let's say

876
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 6: Bama wins tonight and they jump Georgia. Well, let's say

877
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 6: Texas wins and Texas jumps Bama. Well you have no

878
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 6: SEC in the playoff then huh like what like? That

879
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 6: makes no sense to me? So you want to make

880
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 6: the head to head argument, Well, you can't put Bama

881
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 6: in over Texas, but you have to put Bama in

882
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 6: over Georgia because they just beat Georgia. But then you've

883
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 6: got no SEC in the playoff. And what good is

884
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 6: a playoff? And I'm not an SEC truther, I'm a

885
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 6: big ten guy. What good is the playoff without an

886
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 6: SEC team? I'm sorry, you're not getting the top four

887
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 6: teams if you don't include the SEC champion. And it's

888
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 6: just it's hard for me to see a path that

889
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 6: Bama beating the number one team in the country that's

890
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 6: won twenty nine straight games and two straight national titles

891
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 6: on SEC Championship Day does not get into the College

892
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 6: for Ball playoffs.

893
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: Well, let's me see that happening.

894
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 5: Let me throw one other thing at you and we'll

895
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 5: get more so into Georgia Bama. But if you just

896
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 5: look at the playoff picture, I think one of the

897
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 5: major dominoes is Florida State. Yeah, I don't know that

898
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 5: they beat Louisville tonight. If they don't, you could see

899
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 5: both Alabama and Texas get in. I think Florida State

900
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 5: is a big part of that. And if they go down,

901
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 5: it opens up the door. You could have both Texas

902
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 5: and Bama. But obviously Bama's got to take care of

903
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 5: business first. But I think if you're Bama and you

904
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 5: beat Georgia, I would be wearing all of my Louisville

905
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 5: gear when they play in the nightcap, right. That would

906
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 5: be huge for you to be able to get in

907
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 5: there and have a better chance to get into the playoff.

908
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 4: But we'll see.

909
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 5: Man, this is the time of year, Jared, and we

910
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 5: said it last week.

911
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: I did.

912
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 4: Normally, you hear all these chaotic scenarios.

913
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 5: Oh, if this happens, that happens, what's the committee gonna do?

914
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 5: I want chaos And you're like, it's not gonna be

915
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 5: that chaotic.

916
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 4: This year. It could be that chaotic. It really could.

917
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 6: I want to see the commit And if you asked

918
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 6: most people, including me, there's been an SEC bias over

919
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 6: the years. I think there's there's no doubt about that.

920
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 6: I think this year it's hard to have an SEC

921
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 6: bias because I think the SEC is not as far

922
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 6: removed from the rest of the conferences. I think the

923
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 6: PAC twelve is a little bit closer. I think the

924
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 6: Big ten I would put Michigan right like I think Michigan.

925
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 6: There's a there's a debate to be made on who

926
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 6: would be favored between Michigan, Georgia, and Alabama.

927
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: Right now.

928
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 6: You might listen to some numbers that have Michigan ahead.

929
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 6: So and that last year, No way Michigan is going

930
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 6: to be a dog in all those games.

931
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 4: So it just it.

932
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 6: It feels like a more balanced book this year, and

933
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 6: it's going to make the Committee's job a lot harder

934
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 6: if if Florida State went And as much as I'd

935
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 6: like to see it.

936
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: Texas is like Texas is better than Florida State.

937
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 6: Like obviously without Jordan Travis, Florida State would be adult to

938
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 6: all these teams. But I want to see what the

939
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 6: committee would do if Florida State does win and Alabama wins. Yeah,

940
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 6: because if you take and I think we're all in

941
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 6: agreement with Texas is gonna beat Okloma State. So if

942
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 6: all three of those teams win, Texas, Alabama, and Florida State,

943
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 6: do you leave out an undefeated Power five Conference team

944
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 6: in Florida State just because their quarterback's hurt.

945
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 4: Tough sell.

946
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 5: Hey man, Unless you get a couple of upsets, you're

947
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 5: gonna have some hard decisions to make.

948
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 6: And I want to see the committee make those decisions

949
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 6: because I want to know what they're thinking.

950
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 5: Hey, And they might have to if we dive into

951
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 5: Georgia Bama the matchup. You made a great comparison last week, Jared,

952
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 5: where you said Jalen Milroe, the Alabama quarterback is a

953
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 5: lot like Steph Curry.

954
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: Yep, and he is.

955
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 4: He throws the deep.

956
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 5: Ball, he doesn't throw a lot of short stuff and

957
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 5: just sort of nickel and dime his way down the field.

958
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 5: It's shock plays, it's chunk plays, and it's him running

959
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 5: the ball. That's a big part of their offense. So

960
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 5: if Georgia, who has a tremendous secondary, if they're able

961
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 5: to limit the big plays, what is Jalen Milroe going

962
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 5: to do in the SEC title game? Because think of

963
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 5: it like Steph Curry. Again, a brilliant comparison. If you

964
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 5: take away the three from Steph Curry. Just let's step

965
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 5: into fantasy.

966
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 4: World here for a second.

967
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 5: Right, If you're able to do that. What is he

968
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 5: as a mid range guy? He can get to the basket.

969
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 5: He's got great handles, he can create, he can do

970
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 5: some things that can still hurt you. But he's not

971
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 5: Steph Curry if you're limiting his three point range. And

972
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 5: so just like Jalen Milroe, if his deep ball is

973
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 5: limited by a great Georgia secondary, I want to see

974
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 5: how he reacts to that, because that is absolutely advantage

975
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 5: Georgia if they're able to take that off the table.

976
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 6: Hundred percent. Guys, this Alabama offense hum in the last

977
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 6: four games. They're averaging forty six points, nearly five hundred

978
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 6: yards two hundred and forty rushing yards per game. Like

979
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 6: this Alabama offense, it's not a surprise. They had a

980
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 6: new offensive line. Your boy Tommy Reis comes into play,

981
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 6: you know, to be the OC, and they got a

982
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 6: new quarterback.

983
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 4: It's not a surprise.

984
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 6: It's taken some time, but there's a lot of talent

985
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 6: in that building, and I think Tommy Reese is a

986
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 6: good OC.

987
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 4: It just he just he went from Notre Dame to Alabama.

988
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 6: Like give him a minute, Give him a minute in

989
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 6: Tuscaloosa to get his bearings and now you're starting to

990
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 6: see the full package, right, Jalen Milroe. Over this four

991
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 6: game stretch, seventy percent completion rate, He's been sacked just

992
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 6: four times first eight games. Totally different animal. Thirty five

993
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 6: sacks allowed in the first eight, four in the last four.

994
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 6: And again, sacks are not just a quarterback stat. They

995
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 6: are an offensive line stat as well. And that you

996
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 6: can start to see the cohesion. And you mentioned it, Brian,

997
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 6: Georgia's defense is better against the pass than the run.

998
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 6: And it's not even close. And how about this for

999
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 6: Georgia's defensive numbers. Georgia overall the NERD numbers, say, or

1000
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 6: just the thirty six best defense this year in efficiency

1001
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 6: thirty six. This is Georgia defense, Kirby Smart. They're ninety

1002
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 6: third against the run.

1003
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, ninety third against the run.

1004
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 6: It's insane that it's a totally different animal for Georgia's

1005
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 6: defense this year.

1006
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 4: I think both teams are gonna move it. I really

1007
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 4: like the over in this game. I really do interesting.

1008
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think when you flip it around you look

1009
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 5: at Georgia on offense, it's not the same thing as

1010
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 5: last night, Jared. But hear me out if you look

1011
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 5: at Oregon's defense. Oregon's defense has been pretty strong throughout

1012
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 5: this season. They've played good defense, but against a balanced

1013
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 5: team like that was a balanced Washington attack last night,

1014
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 5: they were screwed. And that's the thing with Georgia's offense.

1015
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 5: If they're able to play with great balance, and they

1016
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 5: have been able to throughout a lot.

1017
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 2: Of the year.

1018
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 5: You look at the one two combo Edwards and Kendall Milton,

1019
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 5: who I love the Georgia running back. Yeah, that is

1020
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 5: a nice one to two combo running the ball, and

1021
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 5: Carson Beck has had a really strong season the Georgia quarterback.

1022
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 5: It's one of the things I love about George's offense.

1023
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 5: They don't play scared. They're not one of these teams

1024
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 5: that's like, oh, we've got a ten point lead, like,

1025
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 5: let's not throw the ball in the air. Bad things

1026
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 5: could happen. They just don't play like that at all.

1027
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 5: They just keep attacking you. And I want to see

1028
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 5: if Bama can take something away, because if Georgia plays

1029
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 5: with balance, I just I think it's dogs all day

1030
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 5: if that's the case.

1031
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 6: So Bama does have a young secondary, they tend to

1032
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 6: give up the big play they're outside the top forty

1033
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 6: in big play pass prevention. So Carson Beck, I think

1034
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 6: Carson Beck and I've been tooting this horn all year.

1035
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 6: George is not a defensive team, guys. Georgia is an

1036
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 6: offensive team. They were an offensive team last year. That's

1037
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 6: why they won the national title and they made TCU

1038
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 6: look like the little brother and they aren't offensive team

1039
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 6: this year. It just took Carson Beck, who hasn't played

1040
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 6: a meaningful game since his senior year in high school

1041
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty, to get up to speed, just like

1042
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 6: it took Alabama a few weeks to kind of figure

1043
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 6: out what they were doing offensively. But this is a

1044
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 6: Georgia offense that is going to put some pressure on

1045
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 6: this Alabama defense and the Alabama defense. So let's I

1046
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 6: love doing this. Once we get to this point in

1047
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 6: the year, we have all these data points that we

1048
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 6: can reflect back on. So the best offense that I

1049
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 6: think BAM has faced all year was Texas, and they

1050
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 6: got beat up in that game. I know it was

1051
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 6: a long time ago, but Texas had a fifty percent

1052
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 6: success right, They had ten explosives, They scored thirty four

1053
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 6: points in Tuscaloosa. Then they played all miss banged up

1054
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 6: receiver Group A and M without the quarterback, the five

1055
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 6: star kid Wigan. The balls shredded this Alabama defense this

1056
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 6: year and that was again one of the better defenses

1057
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 6: and one of the better offenses that this Bama defense

1058
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 6: has faced. LSU was moving it up and down and

1059
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 6: then Daniels got hurt and that ended that. So I

1060
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 6: think when I look at this game from the outside

1061
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 6: and I and I'm like, Obama Georgia, No, it's not

1062
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 6: a defensive game. These are two good offenses. And I

1063
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 6: would say average defenses. And I know that's crazy. Georgia

1064
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 6: average defense based on the numbers I'm looking at. Alabama

1065
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 6: tends to give up the explosive play a little bit

1066
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 6: undermanned with who they face this year. But I think

1067
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 6: the biggest X factor in this game in terms of

1068
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 6: a winner, one quarterback can run, the other one can

1069
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 6: and I think that might tilt the scales in Alabama's

1070
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 6: favor a little bit. And if you go back and

1071
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 6: look at Jalen Milrose's best running games this year, they've

1072
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 6: all come in the high leverage games. Yeah, that's the

1073
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 6: difference I think for me right now. But I still

1074
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 6: think George has got more dudes on offense, but Alabama's

1075
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 6: got the great equalizer miller who can break it for

1076
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 6: eighty yards, break the pocket contain and you know, turn

1077
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 6: a bad play into a good play.

1078
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 5: It's a fun matchup. And what a spot for Bama.

1079
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 5: You want to talk about getting revenge?

1080
00:54:58,920 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: You know?

1081
00:54:59,480 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1082
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 5: Think about you could halt what would be a thirty

1083
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 5: game winning streak. You could bookend it the winning streak,

1084
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 5: like you said, with wins right, like the SEC title

1085
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 5: game a couple of years ago, the win today. You

1086
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 5: could bookend the winning streak with defeats at the hands

1087
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Speaker 5: of you, right, and Georgia winning the back to back

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Speaker 5: national championships.

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Speaker 4: You put an end to that. You probably kick them

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Speaker 4: out of the playoff. Yep.

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00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 5: All together, what a spot for Bama? Huh, that's this

1092
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 5: is the ultimate revenge spot for Bama to be in.

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00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 4: But do you get too jacked up?

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Speaker 6: And that's I think if you want to go back

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Speaker 6: and you want to watch, and you want to analyze,

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00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 6: and you try to want to predict who's gonna win

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00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 6: these games, and then you realize what Oregon did last

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00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 6: night in that spot. Oregon didn't play to their to

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Speaker 6: the back of their to their baseball card. Last night,

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Speaker 6: as the saying goes the number, they were a ten

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Speaker 6: point favorite. They played like a ten point dog. They

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00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 6: played scared, they played ten in the first half. They

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00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 6: were overwhelmed by the moment. You're it's hard to forget

1104
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 6: sometimes because we're in these nice, coashy chairs watching these

1105
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 6: games on TV. These are eighteen to twenty two year

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00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 6: old kids.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 6: And I remember the first time I stepped onto the

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00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 6: field at Penn State. So they they let the journalists

1110
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 6: onto the field the last ten minutes of the game.

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Speaker 6: And I was eighteen nineteen years old, and I remember

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00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 6: walking onto the field and this was like a random

1113
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 6: game against I think Purdue or something, and one hundred

1114
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 6: thousand people in the stands and I'm not even playing.

1115
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 6: I'm just you know, journalizing it, journaling it, And I'm like, wow,

1116
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 6: like this is this is crazy? Yeah, can you imagine

1117
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 6: what these kids go through before the game, Like they're

1118
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 6: there their brains, they're nerves. So we can talk about

1119
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 6: the numbers all we want. He got to go out

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Speaker 6: there and play. And the moment was a little too

1121
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 6: big for Oregon last night, and one of these teams

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00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 6: might deal with that at some point during the game

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Speaker 6: where they're a little tight.

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Speaker 4: Who handles that emotion better?

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Speaker 6: Sometimes is just the simplest way to describe the game.

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Speaker 4: Happy Saturday to you.

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Speaker 5: Seamus Okay off the heels of Washington pulling a stunner.

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Speaker 5: We don't have Seamus yet. We'll get to Seamus in

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Speaker 5: a second here. But I'm wondering if we're seeing any

1170
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 5: huge upsets today, Jared, we got one last night. Do

1171
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 5: you see anything stunning happening today?

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Speaker 4: How about a couple?

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00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 6: There's two, I'll give you there's two, and these aren't

1174
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 6: huge upsets, but these are minor upsets. How about app

1175
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 6: State over Troy in the sun Belt. So app State,

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00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 6: this was a very tight, tight game a few weeks

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Speaker 6: ago that Troy won, and Troy has been just pulling

1178
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Speaker 6: out wins left and right. But this app State team

1179
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 6: is very opportunistic, and that's what.

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Speaker 4: I like about them.

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00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 6: They are one of the top teams in the country

1182
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Speaker 6: at forcing turnovers and Troy's had a little fumble problem

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Speaker 6: this year. And the number is I'm curious when Shamus

1184
00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 6: hops on what he thinks, but it looks like the

1185
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 6: number coming back down a little bit. So I think

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01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 6: app State's live today. I think SMU's live today too.

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01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 6: Everyone's kind of hopping off the SMU bandwagon after Press

1188
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 6: and Stone got hurt. But the backup's pretty solid and

1189
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Speaker 6: Tulane's been inconsistent this year. So I think those are

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Speaker 6: the two underdogs that catch my eyes so far today.

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Speaker 5: Well let's see what our main man, Seamus McGee thinks. Seamous,

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Speaker 5: Happy Saturday to you. We were just talking about Washington

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01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 5: pulling a stunner last night. Do you see any big upsets,

1194
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 5: any curveballs today?

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, going to be back. Yeah, that was That

1196
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 9: was a decent result for us last night. There is

1197
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 9: a little less points of we're being honest, but you know,

1198
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 9: you can't get everything. But yeah, I mean I not

1199
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Speaker 9: necessarily in the money line, but like a lot of

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Speaker 9: money's coming out in Oklahoma State on the spread to

1201
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 9: cover sharp money's really coming on dama as today. We're

1202
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 9: it's we're in an interesting spot with that game because

1203
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 9: we have a big future Libello in Alabama for the

1204
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 9: National Championship, but we're taking a ton of Georgia money

1205
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 9: to this game. So I think we're gonna be hoping

1206
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 9: that Georgia, you know, wins the game outright, but probably

1207
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 9: doesn't cover that that game seame you guys, were talking

1208
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 9: about that two lane smah, people like SMU. There's been

1209
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 9: some money coming in there. Also, we're in our futures book,

1210
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 9: we two lane will be a better result there to

1211
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 9: win the AAC.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think really Fritz's I think this is

1213
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 6: the last game, and I'm guessing that the team probably

1214
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 6: knows it too. And sometimes that works in your favor,

1215
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 6: sometimes it doesn't. You made a great point about the

1216
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 6: Alabama Georgia game, and a lot of average you know,

1217
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 6: you know, recreational betters. Most of the people who listen

1218
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 6: to this show don't understand what that means. When you

1219
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 6: say that you have a liability on a certain team

1220
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 6: to win the national title and then they play a

1221
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 6: team like Alabama in this game today, you might get

1222
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 6: a more favorable line in the game itself based off

1223
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 6: of what your future book looks like. Can you explain

1224
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 6: that for the audience, because I think that is a

1225
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 6: very intriguing point that can can get some value in

1226
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 6: certain games because of what the future's book looks like

1227
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 6: for certain sports books.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so I think that's definitely what you probably see

1229
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 9: a little bit more toward, like in maybe the playoffs,

1230
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Speaker 9: like in the semi final, even the championship game. I mean,

1231
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Speaker 9: we don't necessarily try to book around like our like

1232
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 9: whatever our reliability is, Like if if our line is fine,

1233
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 9: we're on the sharp side, we'll we're fine taking the

1234
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 9: position on something. But we took a big bet for

1235
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 9: about two hundred thousand dollars in Alabama to a national

1236
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 9: championship before the year started, and so yeah, it's come

1237
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 9: to a Like I said, it's an interesting spot we

1238
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 9: have today where it is a lot of Georgia money

1239
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 9: coming in. So you know it's not to be merely

1240
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 9: covering the liability that we have Dame with the national championship.

1241
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 9: But yeah, it's uh, it's a it'll be interesting to

1242
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 9: see how.

1243
01:02:58,680 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: It plays out.

1244
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 4: How about Florida State.

1245
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 5: So Florida State favored by a point and a half

1246
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 5: and it's all about their quarterback, game time decision for

1247
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 5: Tate Rodamaker. You got banged up last week against Florida,

1248
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 5: so a slight favorite against Louisville. What is the betting

1249
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 5: public doing? What are the sharps on as far as

1250
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 5: that game goes.

1251
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 9: The sharps have kind of pushed this number down to

1252
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 9: that one and a half number. You're seeing the money

1253
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 9: line is taking more money on Louisville, but like only slightly.

1254
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 9: But when it comes to in terms of the spread,

1255
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 9: we're seeing more public money on Florest State interestingly enough.

1256
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 9: But yeah, this line like briefly touched a pick them

1257
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 9: wow yesterday there was a lot of sharp money coming

1258
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 9: in on Louisville, so went to a pick. Then it

1259
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 9: insteadled kind of nicely at one and a half. But

1260
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 9: I think the book's going to need Louisville here.

1261
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 4: Really, even with all the Louisville money coming in.

1262
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 9: Huh, there's so much money's coming on Florida State on

1263
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 9: the spread where you know the money line, it will

1264
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 9: still be fine.

1265
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Michigan Iowa later.

1266
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm assuming there is a point where we'll

1267
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 6: see some Michigan money enter the market, because I'll be honest, James,

1268
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 6: it looks like the line's kind of come down from

1269
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 6: the peak earlier this week. And I would be surprised

1270
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 6: if anyone if there are a lot of people betting the

1271
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 6: over in this game.

1272
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 9: How funny enough, we're going to need the under here.

1273
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: Wyeah?

1274
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 9: What what which is a It is a psych to

1275
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 9: see in an Iowa game. So yeah, we've we've always

1276
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 9: needed the overs in these violent games with the big tension.

1277
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 9: I think there must be better. So you think Michigan's

1278
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 9: just gonna go up and down the field. You know,

1279
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 9: the spread hasn't bet down from twenty three and a half,

1280
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 9: so you think if it's spread that big, it must

1281
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 9: be betting. You know, Iowa on the spread, but uh,

1282
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 9: you know there's a lot of Michigan money coming in

1283
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 9: at the twenty two and a half number. Twenty three

1284
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 9: and a half a little bit more balanced, but I

1285
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 9: think we're gonna end up needing Eyoa to keep this

1286
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 9: quote and then under the total.

1287
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 4: How about this?

1288
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 5: It's so different than a normal college football Saturday. Obviously,

1289
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 5: have you know, like one hundred games basically on a

1290
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 5: normal win you got eight today, So it's such a

1291
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 5: limited menu. What do you like the most here today?

1292
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 4: Seamus?

1293
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 9: So it's the SCS player that is big weekend. And

1294
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 9: I was selling Jared earlier this week Sacramento State. Here

1295
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 9: two things, chew gum and beat Dakota's and they're running

1296
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 9: out of Dakota's. Sacramento State wins outright against South Dakota.

1297
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 4: I love it.

1298
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 6: I bet it so Seamus and I usually exchange messages

1299
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 6: at some point during the week to kind of get

1300
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 6: a feel for what's happening, and he turned me on

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Speaker 6: to the what are they the Hornets?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 4: The Sacramento State Hornets? Is that what they are?

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Speaker 9: I believe, So I'm usually better with the nicknames, especially

1305
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 9: Sacramento State's. Could be the first time I backed the squad.

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Speaker 6: We'll give you a pass on the Sacramento State mass

1307
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 6: God for today the FCS playoffs and again, a lot

1308
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 6: of people that listen to this show, they like watching

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01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 6: the Big ten and the Pac twelve and the SEC.

1310
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 6: But the best betting value, especially when you're dealing with

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01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 6: championship games, is on these underviewed, underbooked markets like the FCS.

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Speaker 4: So do a little research on the FCS.

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Speaker 6: First of all, it's a fantastic league, like it's it's

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01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 6: just a very passionate a lot of home field for

1315
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 6: these playoff games, so you get a lot of culture

1316
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 6: and and fanfare there. But there's value right with these underbooked,

1317
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 6: underwatched FCS games because no one's betting them.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd say early in the year definitely more value.

1319
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 9: You're talking about Valley, there's ninety three college basketball games today. Yeah,

1320
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 9: under books you know Bacon Grambling, that's probably the under

1321
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 9: book American.

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01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 5: Well, Sam, it's always appreciated the time. Man, enjoy the

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Speaker 5: day and we'll catch up with these soon.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: Than guys, thank you.

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01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 5: There He is Seamus McGee from bet MGM. Shame on

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01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 5: me to say they are only eight games today. I

1328
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 5: meant in FBS, but.

1329
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 4: The shamous special lives on forever.

1330
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I should never doesn't matter how many FBS games

1331
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 5: are taking place to throw some Sacramento State at Oh

1332
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 5: you bet. You gotta bet Sacramento State today, you have to. Yeah,

1333
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 5: he will not think twice about, you know, throwing that

1334
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 5: at us, No doubt about that. We're gonna throw some

1335
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 5: I LOO at you right now? Are you deficient in

1336
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 5: I low? You shouldn't be right, here's a doat for

1337
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 5: you right now? What's going on, Isaac?

1338
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 10: I was gonna lead with Sacramento State?

1339
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 4: How about those?

1340
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 10: I believe? If I'm not mistaken.

1341
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 11: Hey, On Friday night, we started our tour of conference

1342
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 11: championship games in Vegas with the PAC twelve. But it's

1343
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 11: a fourthranked Washington defe number six Oregon thirty four to

1344
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 11: thirty one to move to thirteen. N oh Michael Pennox

1345
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 11: junior twenty seven of thirty nine for three nineteen Husky

1346
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 11: running back Dylan Johnson ran for one hundred and fifty

1347
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 11: two yards on twenty eight carries with two touchdowns. Meanwhile, guys,

1348
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 11: just a short time ago, on College Game Day, SEC

1349
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 11: Commissioner Greg sank advocated for Georgia and Alabama's candidacy for

1350
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 11: college football playoff spots.

1351
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 10: Listen, well, let's go.

1352
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: Back to like Sesame Street. So we're really basic.

1353
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 14: One of these things is not like the other, and

1354
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 14: that's the Southeastern Conference.

1355
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 2: But they have five of the top fifteen.

1356
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 14: We are five of the top fifteen, and our teams

1357
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 14: are playing everyone in the conference.

1358
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:31,440
Speaker 3: They're all attached.

1359
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 14: They have to overcome a lot of adversity. Intense environments

1360
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 14: are going to be close games. But the reality is

1361
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 14: there's been no one that's experienced in success in the

1362
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 14: postseason the college football playoff that we have.

1363
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 3: So when you put us up.

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Speaker 14: Actually against the teams rather than in committee rooms, we

1365
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 14: stand alone.

1366
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 11: And for good measure, Sankie slammed a metal folding chair

1367
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 11: over the head of Big twelve commissioner Brett yor market

1368
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 11: anyway the NBA on Friday, and I never wanted Phoenix

1369
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 11: one nineteen to what eleven? Behind twenty one points and

1370
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 11: sixteen assists from Nikola Jokic. Kevin Urant scored thirty and

1371
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 11: in so doing moved into tenth place on the NBA's

1372
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 11: all time scoring list. That Orleans Pelicans to feed the

1373
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 11: San Antonio Spurs one twenty one to one oh six.

1374
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 11: Victor wembin Yama did not play because of a right

1375
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 11: hip tightness, as the Spurs lost their fourteenth consecutive game.

1376
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 11: Oh fellas, where was Greg Sank when I was being

1377
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,440
Speaker 11: chased in junior.

1378
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 10: High by the eighth graders? Back to you guys, thank you.

1379
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 5: I low bet MGM is now available under one wallet

1380
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 5: and select states. For example, if you're in the DMV area,

1381
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 5: no need to worry about making separate accounts for DC,

1382
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 5: Maryland and Virginia when crossing state borders. Simply just log

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01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 5: into your existing account instead of creating a new one. Okay,

1384
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 5: So just real fast on, Greg Sank, SEC commissioner, what

1385
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 5: are you talking about? One of these things is not

1386
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 5: like the other. In Sesame Street and putting the SEC

1387
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 5: on a pedestal. In all that, that sounds like a

1388
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 5: guy who knows it could slip away. And if Bama

1389
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 5: wins today, there's a possibility that the SEC doesn't have

1390
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 5: a team in the college football playoff. That's what it

1391
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 5: sounds like to me. We'll see how it shakes out.

1392
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 5: But we've got a special treat for you. Rich Ornberger

1393
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 5: with us this morning. Just powering through the power outages,

1394
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 5: if you will.

1395
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 2: How's it going, Oh my gosh, I've never been more

1396
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 2: happy to be on the radio before in my life. Well,

1397
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 2: actually that's not true. Maybe on this show a year

1398
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 2: ago in Salt Lake City at an undisclosed location when

1399
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 2: we had technical difficulties. But this morning has been a

1400
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 2: real treat. I am broadcasting live from the kitchen of

1401
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 2: a neighbor's dad's condo, so I apologize for the echo,

1402
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 2: but he had internet, he had power, we've got supplies,

1403
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 2: and there's a sleeping dog over there. Everything's good, everything's fine.

1404
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 4: And he even got the backdrop.

1405
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 5: I know that's what I noticed too, just bringing that

1406
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 5: into the house like you're moving in.

1407
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know what kind of set up we'd have,

1408
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 2: and so you know, it's it was cool. It's the

1409
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 2: new Heisman posting the football and the stiff arm you know, Rich,

1410
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 2: the com Rex instead of the stiff and then the

1411
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 2: backdrop is the football and.

1412
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 4: You're you're my MVP this morning.

1413
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 2: I I can't tell you guys how I mean. I

1414
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 2: really must love you because I have never worked this

1415
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 2: hard to work in my life. I really do. I

1416
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 2: love you both. I'm glad to be on with you.

1417
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 4: To get out.

1418
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 2: Man.

1419
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 4: You can't miss Championship Saturday.

1420
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 2: Rapid fire. There's Mayo to drink at some point, shrink man, is.

1421
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 4: This the final week we're gonna do? We're gonna keep

1422
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 4: going offs, right.

1423
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 6: We're gonna do bowl games and next week we'll have

1424
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 6: Army Navy we can start giving out college basketball, right

1425
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:51,919
Speaker 6: or NBA.

1426
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 4: I mean you're the NBA guy, Brian.

1427
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. I think we did sneak a

1428
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: couple of hours.

1429
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 4: We stuck in some other stuff in last year.

1430
01:11:59,520 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: So good.

1431
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 5: So yeah, okay, all right, Well coming up next, we're

1432
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 5: talking about picks.

1433
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 4: Prop it up.

1434
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 5: We got some prop bets for you. We've got Rich Hornberger,

1435
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 5: Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian, No,

1436
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 5: you got eight games on the FBS menu, a lot

1437
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,480
Speaker 5: of prop bet opportunities.

1438
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 4: We'll let you know what we like the most. That's

1439
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 4: coming up.

1440
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,080
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Speaker 4: All right, let's do this.

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01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 3: Prop it up plays.

1455
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 5: Yes, so many prop bet opportunities. Jared will start with you,

1456
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 5: what are.

1457
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 4: You thinking today?

1458
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 6: I said, I was deep diving MAC Championship game props

1459
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 6: last night on bet MGM, because that's that's what I do.

1460
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 6: And I'm just sitting in the hotel room waiting for,

1461
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 6: you know, the the night to pass me by. So

1462
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 6: I think this MAC Championship is going to be an

1463
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 6: under game, and the game script to me says.

1464
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 4: Under with both quarterbacks what they're passing yard props.

1465
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,799
Speaker 6: So diekwon Finn under one eighty one and a half

1466
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 6: and Abon Smith under one fifty two and a half.

1467
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,759
Speaker 4: Again, both these numbers available right now at bet MGM.

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01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 6: Both of these teams, Toledo and Miami Ohio, they're top

1469
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 6: thirty in passing defensive efficiency this year. And I think

1470
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 6: the high stakes nature of this game is going to

1471
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 6: lead to a little bit more of a phone boo

1472
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 6: tight mentality. These two teams played a few weeks ago.

1473
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 6: It was twenty one to seventeen games stayed under. It

1474
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 6: was a tight back and forth game. Neither quarterback went

1475
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 6: over their passing yard prop and that game, so I'll

1476
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 6: keep it simple. I think the under is the play

1477
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 6: in the MAC Championship game, and the props to correlate

1478
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 6: to that passing yard unders for both quarterbacks.

1479
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 2: Woo like that Okay, I'm taking everybody out to the

1480
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: Big twelve championship game. So as fourteen and a half

1481
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 2: point favorites against Okee State, Texas should win this one,

1482
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 2: right But I look at Okee State and I say,

1483
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 2: they have probably the more consistent passer Alan Bowman. Right now,

1484
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 2: you can find them most places at somewhere between two

1485
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty and two hundred and seventy five passing yards.

1486
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 2: For my prop, I'm taking the over here. Texas. Their

1487
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 2: coverage unit is probably their biggest team weakness overall. They

1488
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: rank sixty fifth nationally per Pro Football Focuses coverage grades.

1489
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 2: And then I look at the other side of the

1490
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 2: ball and they say, well they've got theirs too. Their

1491
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: reason why they're favored in this game. From a passing

1492
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: attack standpoint, I like Savior Worthy and the over on

1493
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 2: his passing or it should say receiving yardage total. I

1494
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 2: think bet MGM has it at seventy four and a half.

1495
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm taking the over because, just like I

1496
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 2: said about the Longhorns, Oki State, their biggest weakness is

1497
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 2: coverage as well. They're eighty fifth in total passing defense

1498
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 2: in the nation. So I believe this is gonna be

1499
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: a pass happy Big twelve Championship game, just like we're

1500
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 2: used to. And so I got Alan Bowman over his

1501
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: passing yardage total, Xavier Worthy on the Texas side going

1502
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 2: over his receiving yardage total.

1503
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take you to SMU two lane.

1504
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 5: Okay, we know two lane likes to run the ball

1505
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 5: a lot, rely on their defense. I just think with

1506
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 5: Mackay Hughes, one fourteen and a half fit too high.

1507
01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:00,759
Speaker 5: This SMU defense, they're not just a sieve. They're actually

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01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 5: decent against the rush. So to hold Hughes under one

1509
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 5: fourteen and a half, I think that's the better play.

1510
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 5: I will take that one. And I'm gonna give you

1511
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,879
Speaker 5: another running back under. I'm looking at FSU's Trey Benson.

1512
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 5: It's at ninety two and a half against Louisville. Louisville's

1513
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 5: played solid defense throughout this season, and I think in

1514
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 5: this spot with Tate Rodimaker, who's a game time decision

1515
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 5: wasn't awesome last week against Florida, doesn't have that much experience,

1516
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 5: I know that Florida State's gonna have to rely on

1517
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 5: their running game. I just don't think they're gonna have

1518
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 5: great success. They didn't run it very well against Florida

1519
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 5: last week. I don't see them having much better success

1520
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 5: against Louisville today. I'll take Trey Benson under ninety two

1521
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 5: and a half as well.

1522
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, you want to get nuts, guys, Yeah,

1523
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 4: let's get nuts. Do you want to get nuts?

1524
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 6: Do we even dare consider a Deacon Hill quarterback of

1525
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 6: Iowa overpassing yard prom.

1526
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 4: Five and a half one hundred?

1527
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 6: I mean that if you think about it logically, it

1528
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 6: literally could be one play where it gets almost all

1529
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 6: of it.

1530
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 4: If they have a ninety nine they Iowa will not

1531
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 4: have a ninety nine yard play in this game. You

1532
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:13,839
Speaker 4: can count on that, unless it's a special team's.

1533
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:18,520
Speaker 6: Play will I think game script makes sense, right. Michigan's

1534
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 6: gonna be up big Iowa already. They're not a great

1535
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 6: running team to begin with, and Michigan's gonna take that

1536
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,759
Speaker 6: away because that's the easy way out. You would imagine

1537
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 6: Deacon Hill is gonna be throwing it a significant I

1538
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 6: was not winning this game thirteen to ten like they've

1539
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 6: done in the last month, Like they're gonna have to

1540
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 6: score some points to win this game. You would think

1541
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:42,839
Speaker 6: that correlates with the game script. But it's still Iowa

1542
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 6: and it's still Deacon Hill.

1543
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,600
Speaker 4: So I'm not going crazy with this one. But I

1544
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 4: think over.

1545
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 6: One and a half one oh five and a half

1546
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 6: passing yards makes a little bit of sense, just a

1547
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 6: little bit.

1548
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: All right, I have to give you one Mountain West pick.

1549
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 4: Yes, I need a Mountain West.

1550
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: Five guys, So mount West UNLV boys State. One thing

1551
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: that people probably haven't nationally been talking about is the

1552
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 2: resurgence offensively from the Rebels this year. They're incredible and

1553
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 2: they throw the football a bunch. Ricky White, their receiver,

1554
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: has had an unbelievable finish to his season. He's had

1555
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: over one hundred and fifteen receiving yards in his last

1556
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 2: five games. So wherever you can find a number on him,

1557
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 2: most books have him at one hundred and fifty receiving

1558
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 2: yards for this game. I'm comfortable taking the over up

1559
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 2: to that numbers. He's he's going to go off in

1560
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 2: this game because this Boise State secondary hip ranks close

1561
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 2: to last in all of college football. They're awful. So

1562
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 2: Ricky White and the over on up to one hundred

1563
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 2: and fifty receiving yards.

1564
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a boise. Can't tackle. They can't. It's a

1565
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 5: bad thing in college football football in general.

1566
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 4: Can't tackle.

1567
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,520
Speaker 2: They're one hundred and twelveth in the country in explosive

1568
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,799
Speaker 2: plays in the past in defending the pass. They're terrible

1569
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 2: on defense.

1570
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, they are all right. We'll see what happens with

1571
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 5: that coming up next. Probably not a barn burner, but uh,

1572
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 5: from a betting perspective, can be very intriguing. We will

1573
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 5: get to this matchup next. Oh, we are less than

1574
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 5: an hour away from kickoff.

1575
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 4: As we count on down.

1576
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,960
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Speaker 5: let's fast forward to the nightcap. One of the two

1581
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 5: games featured. It's on Big Fox number two, Michigan number sixteen,

1582
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 5: IOWA Big spread, big points spread. We're talking, uh, Michigan

1583
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 5: favored by twenty two and a half and the total

1584
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 5: is thirty five and a half.

1585
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 4: The over under right there, so we're.

1586
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 5: Almost in that window. Remember the shame of special a

1587
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago. Yeah, if the total is within

1588
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 5: ten points of the side that is favored by a lot,

1589
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 5: then you take that over. But we're not quite in

1590
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 5: that window. We're three points off that window, which is

1591
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 5: disappointing right there.

1592
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 2: I feel like I was only chance to pull this

1593
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 2: off is if it is a low scoring affair. I

1594
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: know you're shocked. You're saying, shuch, are you kidding me?

1595
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 2: How could they? So? The Hawk guys have the worst

1596
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 2: Power five defense or excuse me, offense, and it's not

1597
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 2: even close. They have the second worst unit nationally in

1598
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: terms of points per play and some other advanced metrics.

1599
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 2: Michigan's defense ranks second in that same statistics. So the

1600
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 2: Hawk guys somehow managed only two losses during this twelve

1601
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 2: twelve game schedule, and they're their putrid offense is only

1602
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 2: helped by this incredible defense they have. So, look, this

1603
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 2: is going to be your standard procedure when you have

1604
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 2: a bad offense but you have a great defense. You're

1605
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,520
Speaker 2: going to try to apply pressure to your posing quarterback

1606
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 2: and shut down the run. So the way you do

1607
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: that is you affect the path. You stop the run

1608
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 2: on your way to the passer. So you're gonna have

1609
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 2: Hawkeye defenders if Farence does it the right way, head

1610
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: coach Kirk Farrance, you're gonna have them flying upfield, disrupting

1611
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 2: in the front seven and trying to get to McCarthy.

1612
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 2: Because if you can stop the run on the way

1613
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: to pass, if you play the run on the way

1614
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 2: to the pass, what that means is you shut down

1615
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 2: any inkling of a run game, which is going to

1616
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 2: be a tall task, I understand, and you force bad

1617
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 2: decisions in the passing game. So if you can steal

1618
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 2: a couple of turnovers, if there's a way that you

1619
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 2: could get Michigan to put the ball on the ground

1620
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 2: or throw you some picks, there is a path to

1621
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 2: having success here, although I will say it's bleak at best.

1622
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 6: What about if you have a really good defense and

1623
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 6: a historically bad offense.

1624
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well see, well then it gets a little trickier.

1625
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 4: Gets a little trick here.

1626
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 6: So let's talk about how historically bad this Iowa offense

1627
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 6: has been this year one hundred and thirty third out

1628
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 6: of one hundred and thirty three total offenses in passing

1629
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 6: yard this year.

1630
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 4: So to put that, excuse.

1631
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 6: Me in overall yards and passing yards, the whole kitten kaboodle.

1632
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 4: But to put that in perspective, though.

1633
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 6: Ten wins is two and a half times more than

1634
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 6: any other team has ever won that finished dead last

1635
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 6: in offense. So the last high was UCF back in

1636
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:47,839
Speaker 6: two thousand and eight. They finished dead last in total offense,

1637
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 6: they won four games, unbelievable, So it just it puts

1638
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 6: it in perspective on how they were able to do

1639
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 6: it and the reason why they were able to win

1640
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 6: ten games. Thank goodness, this is the last year we

1641
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 6: are doing the Big ten West Division. I'm sad to

1642
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 6: say farewell to the Pac twelve. I'm not sad to

1643
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 6: say farewell to the Big ten West. So Northwestern went

1644
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 6: over their win total. Congratulations to Northwestern. Every other team

1645
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 6: in the Big ten West besides Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Perdue,

1646
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 6: Nebraska all underachieved odds maker expectations this year. And yeah,

1647
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,879
Speaker 6: that's that wasn't me in the studio. That was Iowa's

1648
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 6: offense saying farewell to the Big ten West. That was

1649
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 6: Iowa Sam, that was Iowa Sadam.

1650
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 4: Well, he's not gonna like this next stat either.

1651
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 2: Sounds like fating balloon. Yeah.

1652
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 6: Literally, Out of one hundred and twenty eight qualifying quarterbacks

1653
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 6: this year, Deacon Hill, three hundred pounder, love a good

1654
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 6: thick quarterback, finished one hundred and twenty seven.

1655
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 4: Is that thick?

1656
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 2: Three hundred three?

1657
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 6: He almost got stepped on three times by his center

1658
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 6: last week trying to get the snap.

1659
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he deadlifts nine hundred and fifty pounds.

1660
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 6: So I just and listen. Iowa's defense is legit. They

1661
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 6: are going to have to score tonight.

1662
01:23:59,280 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 2: Wow.

1663
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 6: To me, that's the only way I see I was

1664
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 6: scoring is defense or special teams, because I don't think

1665
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 6: the offense has the capability to puncture the end zone

1666
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 6: against this very good Michigan defense. I didn't realize Deacon

1667
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 6: Hill was three bills three bills.

1668
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 2: It's a big boy.

1669
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 5: He's a big dude. I didn't really big boy. Yeah,

1670
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 5: but he's somewhere. I've I picture Brian Ferrence, the former

1671
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator who's been fired for a few weeks now, saying, see,

1672
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,480
Speaker 5: it's not all me. You think you can work miracles

1673
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 5: with this offense, be my guest, But yeah, Deacon Hill,

1674
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 5: he's not good. He's completing forty eight percent of his

1675
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 5: passes forty eight percent of his passes. Okay, so this

1676
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,799
Speaker 5: is obviously a historically awful, awful offense.

1677
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 4: But that's the other thing.

1678
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 5: If you're looking at the total in this game thirty

1679
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 5: five and a half, Michigan runs the ball fifty nine

1680
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 5: percent of the time, and they play at the second

1681
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,440
Speaker 5: slowest pace in the country.

1682
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 4: They are not in a hurry at all.

1683
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 5: And so if you think about Iowa, who's good for

1684
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 5: what three six points? Anything north of that, you'll take

1685
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 5: it if you're on the over. I don't know if

1686
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 5: Michigan is going for twenty eight plus points margin.

1687
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with a win. This This is going

1688
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 2: to be one of the ugliest games you want to

1689
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 2: watch in conference championship history. I mean, it's not even close.

1690
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: This Michigan defense as good as Iowa defense is, I

1691
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 2: would say Michigan's is better. You look at some of

1692
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 2: these advanced metrics, they're close in a lot of categories.

1693
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: So I don't want to give Michigan too big of

1694
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 2: an edge there. But I mean, this is going to

1695
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 2: be a a title fight where you have punches thrown

1696
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 2: on either side. But but everybody goes to their corners

1697
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 2: You're like, all right, we need a little bit more attack.

1698
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 2: We can't just we can't just keep circling each other.

1699
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 2: We just need somebody needs to step in with a haymaker.

1700
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 2: But really it's possible that neither are capable of throwing

1701
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 2: a haymaker. And this has nothing to do with you.

1702
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 2: How a diminished Michigan offensive attack. I think that they

1703
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: probably can put together something offensively, but if Iowa plays

1704
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 2: this right, their only way to slow down Michigan and

1705
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: get a win is by having long sustained drives. If

1706
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: they can offensively, but most importantly, like you said, Jared

1707
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 2: has scored defensively or get turnovers defensively. And they've got

1708
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,560
Speaker 2: a lot to play for. I mean, this will be

1709
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 2: the first Big Ten championship for Iowa in something nearing

1710
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,799
Speaker 2: twenty years. Is that accurate. I think it's nineteen years

1711
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 2: last time they had to bite to that apple Michigan.

1712
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: They've got a lot to play for too, though, first

1713
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 2: game back for Jim Harbaugh, So there's gonna be emotions

1714
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: on either side of this one, But I don't know.

1715
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm Kirk Farrence, I'm making sure that

1716
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 2: we play the ugliest game in college football history. That's

1717
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: my only chance to win.

1718
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 6: Well, that's again, let's game script out the path for

1719
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 6: IOWA covering this game. Right, Let's let's beat Quentin Tarantino here. Yeah,

1720
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 6: so their defense is great, right, Michigan drives it. The

1721
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 6: one thing that iowad does better than anyone is the

1722
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 6: green zone, right, it's the forty yard line and in

1723
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 6: they're top ten in that category. They're top ten against

1724
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 6: the run. Those are the things that Michigan likes to

1725
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 6: do well. And you force Michigan to kick field goals.

1726
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 6: That's how you cover a twenty one plus point spread. Now,

1727
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 6: the other part of this game that's intriguing Michigan's coming

1728
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 6: off of the war against Ohio State. They're not one

1729
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 6: hundred percent. McCarthy's banged up. They're left tackle Henderson's less

1730
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 6: than one hundred percent. They're right tackle Miles Hilton less

1731
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 6: than one hundred percent. Their best offensive weapon, not a

1732
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 6: running back, is Roman Wilson less than one hundred percent.

1733
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 6: Coming off of a very physical game. You only had

1734
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 6: three catches last week. He did have the touchdown in

1735
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 6: the red zone. But I can make a case that

1736
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 6: Michigan is not at their best, and you are playing

1737
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 6: Michigan at a bit of a weakened state offense for sure,

1738
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 6: And if Michigan doesn't score touchdowns, you make enough of

1739
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 6: those four point tradeoffs from seven to three. That's how

1740
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 6: you cover twenty two and a half. But I still

1741
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 6: think Michigan here's the like. That's all well and good

1742
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 6: until Deacon Hill steps on his center and then the

1743
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 6: ball gets fumbled back and he throws an interception, and

1744
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, Michigan's got a shortfield. So you

1745
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 6: have to play and then cue the Benny Hill music.

1746
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 6: You've got to play mistake free. And if they do

1747
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 6: play mistake for an offense, I can see a path

1748
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 6: that I will cover in this game.

1749
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,759
Speaker 4: But Deacon Hill's got to be elite.

1750
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 2: I agree with what you said so much, and I

1751
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 2: mean we're saying the same thing differently. Yeah, I was

1752
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 2: only chance is if they slowed down the Michigan offense,

1753
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 2: especially when they're nearing the fringe where they're in field

1754
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 2: goal range. So James Turner is the name of Michigan's

1755
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 2: kicker where you can find it. Take the over on

1756
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 2: his his total kicking points for this game, because I

1757
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 2: honestly feel that's what it is. Settle for three. I

1758
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 2: mean right, it on a board somewhere in the locker

1759
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 2: room before the Big Ten Championship. If you're the Hawkeye

1760
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, we are settling for three. They don't get

1761
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 2: in the end zone. So that's gonna be a busy kicker.

1762
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 2: I'm taking I got them at seven and a half,

1763
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 2: kicking points with the kicking props to go, Yeah, let's rock.

1764
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 4: It makes sense. It really does.

1765
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 5: If there's ever a game for Michigan where it's like

1766
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 5: it's fourth and two, let's take.

1767
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 6: You know, they don't need to win with margin. All

1768
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 6: they need to do is put a W on the

1769
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 6: scoreboard and they are in.

1770
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 4: Like Flynn, baby, I.

1771
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 5: Can just picture the betters who are on Deacon Hill's

1772
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 5: passing yardage over.

1773
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, one and five and a half.

1774
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 6: It's ridiculous. Numbers are higher for some of the other guys. Yes,

1775
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,640
Speaker 6: that's right, there are a couple of them. There are

1776
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 6: a couple of guys that have higher than that. But

1777
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 6: it's gonna be one.

1778
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 5: Drive where you get five passing yards and half to punt.

1779
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 5: You know, well, we broke out and you had fourteen

1780
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 5: passing yards. You're trying to add everything up. You're like

1781
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 5: freaking Michigan Goodness, just score quickly so we can get

1782
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 5: the ball back. It's gonna be It's gonna be a sweat.

1783
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 5: I'll put it that way, if you're on it.

1784
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 2: I love football because of the different ways you can

1785
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 2: reach ends like the like this truly is one of

1786
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: those things where the ends don't justify the means. They

1787
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 2: do in certain ways. I know w's and els, but

1788
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 2: really the quality of those ws at the college level matter.

1789
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 2: And also from from just a consumer standpoint, from just

1790
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 2: watching the games, the fact that the means matter so

1791
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 2: much to us, Like you, you have a ten win

1792
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 2: Iowa team and that sounds like an exciting season. This

1793
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 2: was anything but an exciting season for Iowa fans who

1794
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure Sam and correct me if I'm wrong. Watching

1795
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 2: these games, I'm sure the majority of them make you

1796
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 2: sick because of how this offense looks and the way

1797
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:02,839
Speaker 2: they're winning these games.

1798
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 4: Rache, hold on, I'm sorry, and that's not my show.

1799
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 13: I don't mean you interject here, but it was an

1800
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 13: exciting year when they've got those wins in the bag,

1801
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 13: it was traumatizing to watch.

1802
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 4: But they did get to ten wins and they lost

1803
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 4: their game. They lost, they lost their backs.

1804
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 13: Top two tight ends, they lost Cooper Degene like they

1805
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 13: should celebrate the fact they got to tell.

1806
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm saying that the product

1807
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 2: suffers when when you when you win a certain way,

1808
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 2: and I know, watching watch a lot of it's.

1809
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 13: Scrutinized or it's it's a you know, it's it's quite

1810
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 13: the chore to watch these offens.

1811
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 2: It's just amazing how many different ways you can do

1812
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 2: this in this sport. Like you watch basketball, I mean

1813
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 2: there's there's like two ways that you can really be

1814
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 2: a dominant team. And that's about it. You know, you

1815
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 2: watch others baseball, I mean, it's become such a numbers

1816
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 2: and an analytics driven game. There's only so many wins

1817
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 2: you can win with football. Iowa. Iowa has ten wins

1818
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,679
Speaker 2: this season and they have a quarterback whose passing prop

1819
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 2: is one hundred and five yards. It is one twenty three.

1820
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 2: How is that possible?

1821
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 6: I have no idea and I didn't even realize this

1822
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 6: when I was going through the Michigan offense. The offensive

1823
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 6: lineman last week's enter who got hurt. So Michigan is

1824
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 6: a little bit like this is not. I do not

1825
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 6: think you are going to see peak Michigan today. I mean, frankly,

1826
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 6: they could roll out of bed and probably win this

1827
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 6: game by two scores. But I do think there will

1828
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 6: be a moment in this game that Iowa at least

1829
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 6: is competing, and it's about can you limit the mistakes?

1830
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 6: Can Deacon Hill who, by the way, maybe we he's

1831
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 6: listed at two fifty eight on the Iowa website. I

1832
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 6: don't buy that. I don't I don't buy two fifty

1833
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 6: three three bills. I don't buy three bills.

1834
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 2: He's a thick boy.

1835
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 4: I don't buy two.

1836
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 6: I don't buy two fifty eight or a minute maybe

1837
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 6: maybe two seventy, Okay, fine, But I think regardless of

1838
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 6: his weight, I think he has to be he just

1839
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 6: has to not make the critical error.

1840
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 4: And I do think Iowa has a path to covering

1841
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 4: this game. I honestly do.

1842
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 6: But I can't look in this camera with a straight

1843
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:09,719
Speaker 6: face and tell you he's gonna play perfec game against

1844
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 6: Michigan's defense, because even last week he didn't play a

1845
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 6: perfect game against Nebraska's defense, and he kind of got

1846
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 6: lucky there at the I mean, Iowa had a thirty

1847
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 6: win expectancy in the fourth quarter of that game.

1848
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 5: Well, to me, the thing is, look, man, I realize

1849
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 5: you have to stay true to your style, but I

1850
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 5: always say it's to a degree. If your style isn't

1851
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 5: helping you or putting you in a better position to win,

1852
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 5: what good is it. So that's the thing with Iowa.

1853
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 5: They're huge underdogs. I understand they're gonna start off doing

1854
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 5: what they do. They're gonna try to play great defense.

1855
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 5: That shouldn't change no matter what. But offensively, you gotta

1856
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,520
Speaker 5: just do some radical stuff. It reminds me of the Patriots.

1857
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 5: Rich you could talk about this. Remember when the Patriots

1858
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 5: they might have been in a matchup where it didn't

1859
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 5: favor them when they were on offense, they'd pull out

1860
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 5: all the freaking stops. They'd have a tight end lined

1861
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 5: up as the offensive tackle, and the offensive tackle is

1862
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 5: the tight end and do this wild stuff they do,

1863
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 5: all these tricks and reverses and Julian Edelman throwing passes.

1864
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 4: Yep, that's the type of stuff Iowa needs to do.

1865
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 2: This.

1866
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 5: Hey, let's just plow ahead and get three yards and

1867
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 5: set up second and manageable. That's not going to get

1868
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 5: it done. You've got to have Deacon Hill like he

1869
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:29,520
Speaker 5: might throw four interceptions.

1870
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 2: I don't care.

1871
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 5: I think that's a better formula to put you in

1872
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 5: a position for something radical to happen.

1873
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 4: That's what it's gonna take to win.

1874
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 2: I agree with you to an extent, And the only

1875
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 2: reason why I'd disagree with you on the terms of

1876
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 2: iowish should do that is because it's just not what

1877
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 2: they do. The biggest difference between the Patriots during some

1878
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 2: of those offensive down years, and they did have some

1879
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 2: of them while Brady was the quarterback and those years

1880
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 2: where they had a better defense was this was still

1881
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 2: a game plan offense. Like so every week, depending on

1882
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 2: what personnel groups, who are going to see defensively, what

1883
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 2: blitz packages they present, who their best defenders were, whether

1884
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 2: they're on the edge or a corner that you want

1885
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 2: to stay away from. We sculpted our offensive game plan

1886
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 2: to avoid their strengths and to highlight their weaknesses. So

1887
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 2: it was very much so an adaptable offense. Sometimes we'd

1888
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 2: go into a game and we'd have three tight ends

1889
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 2: on the field for ninety percent of the snaps. Sometimes

1890
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,640
Speaker 2: we go into the game and we'd have five wideouts

1891
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 2: and we'd have no tight ends playing for the majority

1892
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 2: of the offensive snaps. We would change up what we

1893
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 2: did as a result of what we saw defensively on tape.

1894
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 2: So when I was with New England and you had

1895
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 2: that ability to change week to week, that's what you

1896
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 2: could do. Iowa doesn't have that versatility offensively. They are

1897
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 2: who they are. They are a terrible offense who sort

1898
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 2: of just goes out there and slugs it out, and

1899
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 2: they're going to rely on their defense to win them games.

1900
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,639
Speaker 2: And you can't argue with success. I mean, ten wins

1901
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 2: is ten wins, and you know, so we get back

1902
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 2: into the conversation about how does the product look. Do

1903
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 2: the ends justify the means? It got them to the

1904
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 2: Big Ten Championship game. So, Brian, I don't see them

1905
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 2: changing anything for nobody.

1906
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:16,719
Speaker 4: I hear you, but I hate every word.

1907
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 2: I know.

1908
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 5: I know I hear you, But that's all I'm saying is,

1909
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 5: if your style is gonna get you beat yeah, twenty

1910
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:27,839
Speaker 5: eight to three, I'd rather lose seventy two to nothing.

1911
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 5: Doing something that's radical that could lessen the margin and

1912
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,640
Speaker 5: get it to where it's an actual game. You know,

1913
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 5: I don't care if this is what you do and

1914
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 5: this is your style. If you're gonna lose by four touchdowns,

1915
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 5: go out big, Yes, change it up. I don't do

1916
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 5: a Kareem ap duel Jabbar skyhooks in.

1917
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 3: The middle of the seield.

1918
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 6: Dude, is the question like, like what would run like

1919
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 6: the air raid all of a sudden, like it just

1920
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 6: I think it's too late for them to change anything.

1921
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 6: And they also, I mean Brian Ferrence, like unfortunately, is

1922
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 6: he's is he fired already?

1923
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 4: Sam, he's gone gone.

1924
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you've got a new You've had a new

1925
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator now for three weeks trying to cook up

1926
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 6: a plan.

1927
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I had it.

1928
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 6: I thought it was I thought it was like they

1929
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 6: basically said, you're gonna get you know, sent to the

1930
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 6: firing spot at the end of the year. Yeah, maybe

1931
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 6: it's a do it for Brian. But then the other

1932
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 6: factor is, and I think Brian, you mentioned this off

1933
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 6: the top, the other Brian, not Brian Farrence, Our Brian,

1934
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,560
Speaker 6: the real Brian here in this conversation is what's the

1935
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 6: Harbaugh factor? Like he's back on the sidelines this week,

1936
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 6: first time in three games. Is there a boost of

1937
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 6: morale and motivation or is it the other way where

1938
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 6: they're kind of just putting their you know, going through

1939
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 6: the motions, getting ready for the inevitable college football playoff.

1940
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 4: Here's the thing we got to run.

1941
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 5: But yes, if if Iowa doesn't have reverses and flea

1942
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 5: flickers and all this magical type stuff, they are freaking

1943
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:03,600
Speaker 5: dead to me.

1944
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 4: If this is just vanilla, let's just plow ahead, let's

1945
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 4: be safe. Oh we might get a field goal on

1946
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 4: this drive. Dead to me. Dead, you guys better pull

1947
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 4: off all the stops.

1948
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 9: I don't.

1949
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear anything black and goldberally, I don't.

1950
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 5: I'm gonna change Iowa Sam's nickname to something that doesn't

1951
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 5: have Iowa.

1952
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 4: And that's how dead they are to me.

1953
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 2: They've been dead to me. I got them buried in

1954
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 2: the backyard next to gold the goldfish, Spike the cockatoo.

1955
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 4: Alright, we've got.

1956
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 5: Rich Ornberger, Fenn State All American, got Jared Smith FSR,

1957
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 5: betting analyst.

1958
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 4: I'm Brian No coming up next.

1959
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 5: The team that's a wounded animal, but it's still a

1960
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 5: dangerous animal.

1961
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 4: It's on the way.

1962
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 5: It's Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented by bet MGM.

1963
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:59,240
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1964
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:04,879
Speaker 5: Bett and GM about thirty two minutes away from kickoff.

1965
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,800
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1966
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 5: Bit Barry for a chance to win daily prizes. Play

1967
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 5: as Hall of Famer Barry Sanders and choose to spin,

1968
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,679
Speaker 5: stiff arm or juke your way to the end zone

1969
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 5: to win prizes. If Barry scores a touchdown, you score

1970
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 5: a reward. All right, So we've got the ACC title game.

1971
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 5: Louisville against Florida State. Florida State, they are the wounded animal. Okay,

1972
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 5: but they are a dangerous animal. What's going on with

1973
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 5: their team is it's all about the quarterback position. Unfortunately,

1974
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 5: Jordan Travis went down hideous injury awful. Then Tate Rodemaker,

1975
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 5: who's the backup quarterback, played against Florida last week. He

1976
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 5: got dinged up, He got hit hard in the fourth quarter,

1977
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 5: missed a couple of plays, probably was concussed, had concussion

1978
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 5: like syndrome, the symptoms, the whole thing. The beginning of

1979
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 5: the year, he's a beginning of the week. He's a

1980
01:39:56,640 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 5: game time decision. So the thought is he's probably going

1981
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 5: to play, but it's uncertain. You've got this true freshman quarterback,

1982
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 5: brock Glen. He would either get the start if Rodimaker

1983
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:15,759
Speaker 5: can't go, He'll get time if Rodimaker has to exit

1984
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 5: or can't play the entire game. So that's what Florida

1985
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 5: State is looking at against Louisville, who plays really good defense.

1986
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 5: So I think Florida State, you gotta rely on Trey Benson.

1987
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 5: That running game just finds some stability. If you're Louisville,

1988
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 5: you put everything on the quarterback, you slow down the

1989
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:37,640
Speaker 5: running attack, and you make whoever's behind center beat you.

1990
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 5: That's the game plan for Louisville. Defensively, I think, look,

1991
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 5: I look.

1992
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 2: At this ACC Championship game and what Florida State's dealing with,

1993
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 2: and it reminds me of Andy Ruiz, the boxer who

1994
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 2: I'm blanking right now on who he beat in the

1995
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 2: biggest fight of his life to earn the belt. Who

1996
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 2: was it? Was it? Oh goodness gracious, but so he

1997
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 2: was a stand in. This fight wasn't even supposed to happen,

1998
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 2: but on short notice, he walks into the ring, he

1999
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 2: knocks out the champion becomes Joshua. Thank you Joshua.

2000
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2001
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 2: So this look this is one of those games where

2002
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,680
Speaker 2: again actually, in some ways similar to the way we

2003
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 2: were talking about Michigan and Iowa, everybody is getting too

2004
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 2: caught up on the substance and the product maybe and

2005
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 2: not what's happened and transpired for the Seminoles. I know

2006
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 2: it may look different. I know it may look ugly

2007
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 2: having a backup or a backups backup win the AACC

2008
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 2: Championship game, and it may be uncomfortable for the CFP

2009
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 2: Playoff committee and the television networks to not have Jordan

2010
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 2: Travis out there. But whoever, it's going to be getting

2011
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 2: starts in the playoffs. But this could be a thirteen

2012
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 2: to zero Seminole team, And right now, I mean, what

2013
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 2: are they say it's limb favorites. It could be a

2014
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 2: pick them at this point to win the AC Championship game.

2015
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 2: They win, they're in, they deserve it, and in fact,

2016
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 2: I would say it's even a bigger feather in their

2017
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 2: cap if they achieve what they're they're out to achieve

2018
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 2: today and earn the fourth spot in the playoff because

2019
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 2: nobody should be able to jump. There should be no

2020
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 2: conversation for anybody to jump an ACC championship who had

2021
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 2: a spotless record on the season, regardless of what happens

2022
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 2: to their quarterback.

2023
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree. I think if Florida State wins, they

2024
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 6: deserve to get in. But life's not fair sometimes. I

2025
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 6: just I don't know what the committee will do. We

2026
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 6: talked about it earlier.

2027
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 4: In the show.

2028
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 6: If it's a Texas, Alabama, Florida State winning day, how

2029
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 6: the committee handles that one of those teams has to

2030
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 6: be out? And you know, I got the Big ten

2031
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 6: winner and Washington are in. You got two spots left,

2032
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 6: and I there's three major conferences in this in this

2033
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 6: pool here, and I don't know how the committee is

2034
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,799
Speaker 6: cann handle that. But let's it might not matter because

2035
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 6: right now we're trending in a direction that Louisville's gonna

2036
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 6: face a third string quarterback in this game. I think

2037
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 6: if you and I have no idea, I'm not a doctor,

2038
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 6: even though we play one on TV and radio every week,

2039
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 6: but I think if you had to predict whether or

2040
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 6: not the concussion symptoms will subside the fact that the

2041
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 6: market hasn't made a strong move towards Florida State, yet

2042
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 6: kind of tells you that maybe Rodymaker's out tonight. But

2043
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 6: let's just assume that he's in, and let's assume that

2044
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:32,639
Speaker 6: Louisville's defense plays a backup quarterback here. Well, they haven't

2045
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 6: had a whole lot of success recently. And I know

2046
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 6: Louisville pretty decent against the run this year, but they

2047
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,719
Speaker 6: got gashed by Kentucky last week, and they got bounced

2048
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 6: around by Miami and Tyler Van Dyke who was on

2049
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:45,680
Speaker 6: one leg in that game and was coming off of

2050
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 6: a benching. And then you go back three weeks ago

2051
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:51,839
Speaker 6: and you watch the game against Uva, who their freshman

2052
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 6: quarterback calandraa went absolutely bananas in that game, ran for

2053
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:58,640
Speaker 6: ninety three for three hundred. So I could see some

2054
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,720
Speaker 6: holes for Louisville's defense. And the thing that scares me

2055
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 6: in this particular game is their numbers against the explosive

2056
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:12,759
Speaker 6: pass plays. And that's where Coleman and Wilson are huge.

2057
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 6: And if you go back and watch last year's game

2058
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 6: between Florida State and Louisville, it was actually Rodamaker who

2059
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 6: came in for Jordan Travis who got hurt midway through

2060
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 6: the game. Rodamker led two touchdown drives in the fourth quarter.

2061
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 6: Wilson had seven for a buck fifty. So, if it

2062
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 6: is Radamaker, and if Louisville's defense is still a little

2063
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 6: bit susceptible to those big plays, I think Florida State

2064
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 6: has the dudes on the outside to make him pay

2065
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 6: for that a little bit.

2066
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 5: Well, I'm just surprised Rodamaker's passing prop bet is posted.

2067
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 5: Yeah at BETMGM, it's one ninety three and a half.

2068
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 4: You'll get avoided if he doesn't play well, that's true.

2069
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 5: But if he gives it a go, is he gonna

2070
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 5: last the entire game? Like, there's a lot of uncertainty

2071
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 5: as far as that goes. And if he's able to

2072
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 5: play the intil game he passed for a buck thirty

2073
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 5: four against Florida last week, is it going to be

2074
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:08,640
Speaker 5: dramatically better today against Louisville. I don't think so. So

2075
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just interested that it's posted to begin with,

2076
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 5: because there are a lot of times where look, if

2077
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 5: the book is in jeopardy of maybe this guy doesn't

2078
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 5: play the whole game.

2079
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 4: He's been a little.

2080
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,680
Speaker 5: Bit ding up or they just don't put themselves in

2081
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 5: harm's way. So I'm surprised it's live like you could

2082
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:29,640
Speaker 5: bet the under if you wanted to on this one.

2083
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 2: You know, And I know a lot of the attention

2084
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 2: has been on Florida State and their storyline with Jordan

2085
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 2: Travis going down and the issue a quarterback, especially with

2086
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 2: a question mark there, But Louisville has got a lot

2087
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:43,720
Speaker 2: to play for, probably locked into a New Year's six

2088
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 2: spot regardless of outcome of this championship game. But I

2089
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:52,719
Speaker 2: mean a Florida State victory that sends or I should

2090
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 2: say Louisville lost it ups to Anty in terms of

2091
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 2: their ball appearance like this. This is again we concentrate

2092
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 2: on the teams we want to concentrate on, and the

2093
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 2: national narrative wants to concentrate on, and you forget a

2094
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 2: little bit about the team being left in the margin,

2095
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 2: like the team that it doesn't appear there's there's a

2096
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 2: lot of juice behind. But this is a prideful bunch.

2097
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 2: They've had a good season and they've got a lot

2098
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 2: to play for us too, still, especially in an AFC

2099
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 2: championship game, because trust me, when you walk away from

2100
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 2: a college football career, and you don't have a national

2101
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 2: championship to show for it. Those big ten championships are

2102
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 2: those ACC championships. They become a lot more meaningful. And

2103
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 2: you got a senior senior leaden class here Lo Louisville,

2104
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:42,839
Speaker 2: and I think this is going to be an important

2105
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 2: game to them, so right now, Yeah, again with the

2106
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 2: quarterback issue, this is the slightest of I guess bet

2107
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 2: MGM's got them at minus one Florida's and minus one

2108
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:56,519
Speaker 2: and a half right now. But this is anybody's game,

2109
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,559
Speaker 2: Like this is regardless of who starts at quarterback, whether

2110
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,719
Speaker 2: it's rot Maker or his backup Bence or his backup,

2111
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:04,639
Speaker 2: this is going to be a tight game.

2112
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 5: Well, you know someone who's not a slight favorite, Isaac Lohenkron,

2113
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 5: a large favorite. He's like Michigan against Iowa type favorite os.

2114
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 4: Basically, don't screw it up, Isaac.

2115
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 10: You should have seen Iowa Sam's reaction.

2116
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 11: Oh here, here it come, look out off the top rope. Yeah,

2117
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 11: perhaps the riding was on the wall with that particular comparison. Well,

2118
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 11: speaking of conference championship game, as we start by recapping

2119
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 11: the Pack twelve championship game in the last ever Pack

2120
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 11: twelve championship game in football. On Friday night, I saw

2121
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 11: fourth ranked Washington to be number six Oregon thirty four

2122
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 11: to thirty one, as the Huskies improved to thirteen and

2123
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 11: oh Michael Pennocks junior completed twenty seven of thirty nine

2124
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 11: for three nineteen. Husky running back Dylan Johnson ran for

2125
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:59,160
Speaker 11: one fifty two and two touchdowns. Meanwhile, this morning, on

2126
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 11: College Game Day, SEC Commissioner Greg Sanke advocating for Georgia

2127
01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 11: and Alabama's candidacy for college football playoff spots.

2128
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 4: Listen, Well, let's go back to.

2129
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 3: Like Sesame Street.

2130
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 2: So we're really basic.

2131
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 14: One of these things is not like the other, and

2132
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 14: that's the Southeastern Conference.

2133
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 2: For they are five of the top fifteen.

2134
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 3: We are five of the top fifteen.

2135
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 14: And our teams are playing everyone in the conference.

2136
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:26,600
Speaker 3: They're all attached.

2137
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,959
Speaker 14: They have to overcome a lot of adversity. Intense environments

2138
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 14: are going to be close games. But the reality is

2139
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 14: there's been no one that's experienced in success in the

2140
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 14: postseason the college football playoff that we have.

2141
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 3: So when you put us.

2142
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 14: Up actually against the teams rather than in committee rooms,

2143
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 14: we stand alone.

2144
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 11: For good measures, Sankie then delivered an atomic pile driver

2145
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 11: to unsuspecting Big Sky Conference commissioner Tom Wister Silky sorry

2146
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 11: Tom Anyway. In the NBA on Friday night, Denver one

2147
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 11: in Phoenix, one nineteen to one eleven and losing cause,

2148
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 11: Kevin Durant scored thirty, moving into tenth place on the

2149
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 11: NBA's all time scoring list. Celtics over the Sixers one

2150
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 11: twenty five to one nineteen despite Jason Tatum being ejected

2151
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 11: for arguing with officials during the third quarter. It was

2152
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 11: his second technical of the game. Here was Tatum's reaction

2153
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Speaker 11: to being thrown out.

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Speaker 15: I didn't throw nothing. I said what I said. There

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Speaker 15: was no magic words. I didn't cuss assistant coaches right there,

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Speaker 15: you heard me. I don't know, dude. Maybe they didn't

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Speaker 15: want me to play tonight. It was eager to get

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Speaker 15: me out of there, and I walked back calmly. I

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Speaker 15: sat in my chair, got some ice.

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Speaker 2: I was not mad.

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Speaker 15: I didn't throw anything. I was just like, it was

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Speaker 15: like a joke. I had to laugh it off, so no,

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Speaker 15: I ain't cry, I ain't throw anything, got my ice,

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Speaker 15: watched the rest of the game.

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Speaker 11: Ironically, my seven year old has the same reaction after

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Speaker 11: I sent him to his room, fellas back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I Low.

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Speaker 5: It is Fox Sports Radios cap Down to kick Off,

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Speaker 5: presented by Bett MGM Greg Sankie. Here's the thing. He's

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Speaker 5: half right and he's half way wrong. In terms of

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Speaker 5: playoff success. Yeah, the SEC stands alone in the college

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Speaker 5: football playoff era. I mean there's success is well documented.

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Speaker 5: Alabama's won titles, Georgia's one back to back titles, we

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Speaker 5: get it. But in terms of we play everybody in

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Speaker 5: the SEC conference, no, you don't. You have eight conference games. Okay,

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Speaker 5: if you look at Georgia, their strength of schedule ranks

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Speaker 5: fifty ninth. So when we're just comparing resumes and if

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Speaker 5: Georgia loses today, which is possible, and you just look

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Speaker 5: at their resume in twenty twenty three, not how the

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Speaker 5: SEC is fared over the span of the entire college

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Speaker 5: football playoff era.

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Speaker 4: We're just looking at twenty twenty three. They might not

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Speaker 4: have the goods to get a team in.

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Speaker 5: It's possible, and this whole diatribe, lets you know he

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Speaker 5: understands that possibility exists.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I focusing on Georgia and what they've

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Speaker 2: done this season and really over the course of time

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Speaker 2: here because some of these players I realize, like, yeah,

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01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 2: have a revolving door class of athletes that are coming

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Speaker 2: through year after year after year. But for a second,

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Speaker 2: especially if they beat Alabama today, can we just appreciate

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Speaker 2: how difficult what they've done over this three year stretch is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's tough to win. It's tough to win,

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Speaker 2: and I know not every win is beautiful, and I

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01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 2: know strengthy schedule wasn't great this season, but it is

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Speaker 2: really difficult to win football games because a lot that happens.

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Speaker 5: But we're comparing, we're splitting hairs. Who deserves to be

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Speaker 5: in That's what it comes down to. And if Georgia loses,

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01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 5: their resume this year might not be better than the

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Speaker 5: other teams around them that have won conference championships that

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Speaker 5: deserve to be in more. George is out if they lose.

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Speaker 5: The question is is Alabama ian if they win. I

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01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 5: don't care what the SEC has done over the course

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01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:58,680
Speaker 5: of years gone by. It's about this year. Is your

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01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 5: resume better this year than Texas who beat you head

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01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 5: to head?

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01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 4: Right?

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01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:08,879
Speaker 5: Like that's what he's arguing about. This is a pre argument.

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01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 5: This is like setting the stage in case this is

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01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 5: the fist fight, right if Alabama wins the game, But

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Speaker 5: don't sell me on twenty eighteen when we're talking about

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand it. Look, I mean again, this is

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Speaker 2: when we get to the quality of the win as

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01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:29,759
Speaker 2: opposed to the actual win itself, which I've come around

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01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 2: to it for years. I fought this because I have

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01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 2: a mindset that the NFL. Look, NFL just makes more

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01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 2: sense the way they did. Of course, they're playing with

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01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 2: a smaller number of teams and conferences and divisions and

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01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:43,640
Speaker 2: all that makes a little bit more sense. So I

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Speaker 2: understand why it is the way it is. But say

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01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:50,720
Speaker 2: Texas wins in narrow fashion over the Cowboys over the

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01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State Cowboys today and you have an Alabama victory,

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01:52:55,200 --> 01:53:00,160
Speaker 2: or yeah, an Alabama victory. Well, even then, you know

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01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:04,799
Speaker 2: we're not talking about We're not talking about necessarily who's

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01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 2: who's better. We're talking about opinions. So I may say, well,

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01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 2: I'm Alabama's better now than they were when they faced Texas,

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01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 2: and you could have somebody with a completely different opinion.

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01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 2: So it's all subjective. At the end of the story.

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01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 2: It just you just we're we're splitting hairs in every direction,

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Speaker 2: especially if Georgia doesn't end up beating Alabama in the

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Speaker 2: SEC championship game.

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Speaker 4: I really hope Georgia wins. Well, there's gonna be a

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01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 4: lot of chaos. I can't imagine a playoff without the SEC.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, could happen. Greg Zankie understands it could happen. That's

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01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 5: why he's saying all that stuff. He just said, there's

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Speaker 5: the ads, it's possible. We've got Rich Orenberger Penn State

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Speaker 5: All American. We've got Jared Smith FSR batting analyst. I'm

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01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 5: Brian no man. You know it's a conference championship Saturday.

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Speaker 5: When IOWA Sam's firing up the god smack. You know

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01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 5: that's is serious here. We got picks to make right

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Speaker 5: LeVar Arrington, TJ Hushman, Zada, Plexico, Buris. The ball conversation continues.

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Speaker 5: Keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. We

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Speaker 5: got picks to make. Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 4: All right, Jared, We'll start with you. What are you thinking?

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Speaker 6: Well, I was gonna give out the over in Texas

2264
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 6: Oklahoma State, but it's moved three points in the last

2265
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 6: thirty minutes, so I can't give you that at fifty eight.

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01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 4: I bet it fifty four earlier in the week.

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Speaker 6: I still think that game goes over, but we'll give

2268
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 6: you lines currently available at MGMs. You can make the

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01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 6: wager right now. SMU plus three against TWU Lane again

2270
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:24,680
Speaker 6: is the American Conference title game. I think on the surface,

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01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 6: it looks like Tulane's got the edge because Preston Stone

2272
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 6: is hurt, but do not sleep on the backup Kevin Jennings.

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01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 6: He came in last year against Rice, had a high

2274
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 6: leverage game, and also is state champion, so he's been

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01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 6: in some big games in the past. And I think

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01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 6: it's actually two Lane's offense that struggled lately. I don't

2277
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 6: know how they beat UTSA last week. Oh I knew

2278
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 6: because they were plus four and turnover March, and I

2279
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:46,840
Speaker 6: don't think they're gonna be plus four today. I think

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01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 6: SMU wins and I'll take the three points there and

2281
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 6: I'll give you the over in George, Alabama. Guys, just

2282
01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 6: bet the over when Alabama is in the SEC championship game.

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01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 4: You know why because it's.

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01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 6: Hitting eight straight games and the totals in those games

2285
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:58,760
Speaker 6: were like in the sixties.

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Speaker 4: This one's at fifty.

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Speaker 6: So I feel like over in Atlanta today between Georgia

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Speaker 6: Bama's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Bet I like that. Yeah, Actually That's where I'm gonna

2290
01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:10,000
Speaker 2: finish with that SEC Championship game. But I'll start in

2291
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:13,160
Speaker 2: the Mountain West with Boise State UNLV. I'm taking the

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01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 2: over sixty and a half. Both of these offenses great,

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01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 2: Both of these defenses not so much. So I like

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01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 2: the over hitting here just from the quality and the

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01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 2: way these teams have won, especially down the stretch of

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01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 2: their season. Michigan Iowa. This sets up to be one

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01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:33,480
Speaker 2: of the worst football games we've ever watched, which means

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01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:35,600
Speaker 2: you gotta look at the total and you got to

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Speaker 2: think about taking the under thirty and a half thirty

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Speaker 2: five and a half points. I'm going under that total.

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Speaker 2: And how about this on that Georgia Alabama matchup. Georgia

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Speaker 2: has played eleven FBS football teams this season, and they've

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01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 2: only had four games ending by winning by ten or

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01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 2: fewer points. All those teams had dual threat quarterbacks. Jel

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Speaker 2: Morol is the best dual threat quarterback they face this

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01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 2: seaar and so I have Alabama plus four and a half.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'll go fast because I have no choice. I'm

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01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 5: gonna take Toledo under twenty six and a half their

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01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:15,880
Speaker 5: team total. Miami of Ohio plays real defense. I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: take the under there. Give me Louisville plus a point

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01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:21,600
Speaker 5: and a half against Florida State. Everything on the line

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Speaker 5: for the seminals, it is right there. Tough, tough to

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01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:28,440
Speaker 5: perform in that situation with your backup quarterback. Give me

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01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 5: Louisville and I'm gonna go with Team Rich. I'm on

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Speaker 5: the same game, Boise State UNLV defense optional.

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Speaker 4: Give me the over sixty and a half. All right,

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Speaker 4: let's do this.

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Speaker 3: This is the best play of the days.

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Speaker 2: Ayls Man.

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Speaker 4: All right, Jared, what is it?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 6: I like Boise State today, Guys UNLV. I don't think

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Speaker 6: they're gonna be fully.

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Speaker 4: Prepared for this.

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Speaker 6: I think Boise State's playing for their new interim head

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Speaker 6: coach after Avolos got fired.

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Speaker 4: So I'll take Boise State minus doing a half in

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01:57:57,320 --> 01:58:01,200
Speaker 4: the mountain less. Okay, all right, if they can tackle.

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Speaker 5: Everybody enjoyed the conference championship games. Enjoying la Jared, We'll

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Speaker 5: see you