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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: O Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly here

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Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson and Matt the Javonte Williams train. It's

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Speaker 1: rolling along. We're getting We're getting more and more people under.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah of NFL dot Com did a live chat

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Speaker 1: yesterday with members of the meeting in the NFL Media

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Speaker 1: Um and said that he is going to bump Javonte

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Speaker 1: Williams up ahead of Naseer Harris and his rankings, and

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Speaker 1: he had him at thirty two the last time in

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Speaker 1: his in his latest rank, in his last into the

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Speaker 1: top fifty or whatever. And keep moving up and keep

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Speaker 1: moving out, gaining steam. You sent me an article here

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Speaker 1: by Thorne Eystrom uh the World from Rhoto World. He

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Speaker 1: has Javonte Williams is his number one running back we start.

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Speaker 1: We spoke with with Greg Kussell of NFL Films. Check

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Speaker 1: that segment out. He has him ahead of Nausea Harris.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's on board now, Yeah, you made some good points

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Speaker 1: before we started even recording today, just about age and

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Speaker 1: workload by itself. I mean, I think that's note worthy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you have their ages in front of

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Speaker 1: the difference. Yeah, he's too. Javonte Williams is two years younger,

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Speaker 1: two years younger. You know that's that's a big deal. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing with Harris. He's already turned twenty three, Um,

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Speaker 1: a little surprising. Came back to school last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Javonte Williams has not even turned twenty one yet. He'll

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Speaker 1: turn twenty one soon after the draft. But but you're

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Speaker 1: getting a twenty one year old running back who, by

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Speaker 1: the way, had I believe right around four hundred career

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Speaker 1: touches at North Carolina, whereas Harris had almost three hundred

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Speaker 1: touches last year alone. He's got a whole year's worth

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Speaker 1: more of touches. He and he and Travis a t N.

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Speaker 1: A t N actually has more touches in his college career.

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Speaker 1: They're both almost at nine hundred for their career, and

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Speaker 1: Williams has less than half of that, and part of

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Speaker 1: it because Michael Carter was there. Right, That's that's where

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Speaker 1: he benefited, you know, if Well, that's the thing. But

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Speaker 1: and I get it, Harris was good enough that he

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Speaker 1: got carries along with those backs. But then this year

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Speaker 1: was the guy. The A t M was the guy

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Speaker 1: the entire time he was at question. Yeah, Clemson's just

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Speaker 1: younger than the other. Um, yeah, I think that's a

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Speaker 1: big deal. And then he turned on the tape and

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Speaker 1: then he turned on tape and it's a good conversation.

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Speaker 1: Which one you like? Again, check out the conversation we

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Speaker 1: have with Greg about that. I think both are developing receivers. Um,

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Speaker 1: neither is a super home run hitter, but I think

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Speaker 1: Williams is probably faster. Yeah, that's the one thing that

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Speaker 1: that the and the Thornystrom piece. He thinks, and he's

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Speaker 1: watches a lot of tape. He thinks that Javonte Williams

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Speaker 1: are running the low four fives. He thinks that Harris

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Speaker 1: is more of a four high four fives for six guy. No,

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Speaker 1: that's not much, but it's something, but it's something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a t N will be in the four four somewhere. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're looking for that kind of guy. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think a t N to me, he's not even

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Speaker 1: the conversation for me. Like, we've done it, We've done

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Speaker 1: the triple takes. Uh Steelers dot Com and I had

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Speaker 1: at the time, I had Harrass is my number one back,

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Speaker 1: and I had Javante Williams is my number two with

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Speaker 1: a t M behind those two guys. Because I think

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Speaker 1: if I'm looking for an every down back, the conversation

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Speaker 1: ends or starts and ends with those two times. Those

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Speaker 1: two players, Harris and William's, they're almost a different position. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, I'm not sure, I can't think of

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Speaker 1: a good team off top of my head. But if

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Speaker 1: you had a four net like grinder, you know, and

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Speaker 1: you want to compliment to hit the bears, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a good, good, real good example, you know. And Kamar

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Speaker 1: want what the Steelers need or traditionally have looked for

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Speaker 1: at the position of we want to hand this guy

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Speaker 1: those are the two. Those are the two and and honestly,

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Speaker 1: there are some other guys in this draft that you

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Speaker 1: There's not the thing that's always They're not the turn

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Speaker 1: to turn to the Crossbrod puzzle. Turned to page eight

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Speaker 1: two for the answers, and there it is. Those two

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Speaker 1: guy who should be getting the ball isn't getting it,

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Speaker 1: Like I want to give the ball twenty times to

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Speaker 1: Javonte Williams. Sure, and I'm sure there's some guys on

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Speaker 1: Thor's list. I'm actually gonna read it after we're done

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Speaker 1: here that are third fourth round players that are interesting. Um,

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Speaker 1: comparisons here, so still roll down through the comparison. So

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Speaker 1: his comparison, uh for Javonte Williams is Nick Chubb. That's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. That's a good that's a good comparison. I

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Speaker 1: bet Williams. I'm not saying he's a better runner the

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Speaker 1: nick job. I think Nick Chubb's the best runner in

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Speaker 1: the league. To be very honest with you, he's better

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Speaker 1: receiver Nick Chubb from day one, and he's not great

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Speaker 1: He puts guys in their butts. Yea, he loves it.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty rare that, uh Naja Harris. He compares to

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Speaker 1: Steven Jackson. I like that comparison. I've heard Matt Forte

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Speaker 1: see him. Forte was more of a finesse. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think I think Jackson is a really good comparison. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you'd be really happy with Stephen Jackson. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 1: of course. But Stephen Jackson was very good for about

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Speaker 1: you mixed feelings on a t N as a receiver.

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Speaker 1: He's he's getting there. But I think Bush was a

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Speaker 1: great receiver. Yeah, absolutely, Like a Bush came out now,

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Speaker 1: has Michael Carter number four. This is why Javonte Williams

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Speaker 1: was really good too. I know you and I both

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Speaker 1: great player. He's the best of those three. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I don't want to give him the ball thirty times, right,

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Speaker 1: Or or Carter the ball. They're not your primary you know,

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Speaker 1: Carter and Williams have really benefited from each other. You know,

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Speaker 1: His fifth guys were Monde Stevenson from Oklahoma. His comp

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Speaker 1: um boy, Eddie Lacy's tearing it up. Okay, he did

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna need a third down back. You know.

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Speaker 1: I don't dislike Stevenson. No, no, I don't either, But

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Speaker 1: but he's not gonna catch the ball, and you need

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Speaker 1: Trey Sermon. This is a rich comparison to me. For

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Speaker 1: Trey Sermon, he's got Marshawn Lynch as his comparison. That's

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Speaker 1: very rich. I think Lynch might go to the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame someday. Yeah. I don't see him as a

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Speaker 1: pinball like No, I mean Sermons good. I like all

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Speaker 1: seen with mosters? He can't stay healthy, He can't stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: I think game Well is a better receiver than most are.

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Speaker 1: Most are It's a pure Shanahan zone. Put your foot

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Speaker 1: this draft continues to evolve, and man, it's different this year.

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Speaker 1: Without the Combine and all that. We may have already

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Speaker 1: we might, we might we would know. Okay, this guy

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Speaker 1: and maybe nausea Harrison only he's a four six five guy, Okay,

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Speaker 1: And I gotta admit, I mean, not having the combine numbers.

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Speaker 1: It's not like I'm gonna be skeptical of heights and

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Speaker 1: would I won't putty much stock in pro days, especially

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Speaker 1: when you when you start looking at offensive lineman. Okay,

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Speaker 1: how long how long his arms? You know that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff, And I just like seeing them all together too, well.

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Speaker 1: That helps. Yeah, you get to see everybody on the

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Speaker 1: same That's why Senior bowls, you know, it's you can

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Speaker 1: see this guys standing next to each other. Throwing at

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Speaker 1: the same the same receivers, doing all that kind of

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Speaker 1: stuff with that question. But that's gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: this the segment. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for

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Speaker 1: Jacob Reck here on site, I'm Dale Lally. We thank

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