1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: What do you think? 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: Uh, you wanna I don't know. Maybe you want to just. 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: You just good for a. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 3: Little bit wookies and movies. 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, is this something you want to do? You want 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: to go wookies and maybe Deity's. 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: Good morning, Sweet world, and welcome to the Not Dungks 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 3: Podcast presented by Amazon Prime. It's Tuesday, May twentieth, twenty 9 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: twenty five. I'm Jay Skis here in the Classic Factory 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: and alongside me, as always, Task. 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Mallis Happy Conference Finals. 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: Everybody next to him it's the Bearded one, a top 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: shot boy fixing his collar, Trey Herby and over Yonder 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: making the magic happen. Super producer jd. Hello there is here. 15 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: We are Hello to everybody on YouTube. Yes, Happy Conference 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 3: Finals day to all that celebrate. Hit the light button, 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. We are 18 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 3: previewing and predicting both Conference Finals series. Today we got 19 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 3: the final four. It's officially set. We'll start out west 20 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: where the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Oklahoma City Thunder square 21 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: off in a battle here of rising powers. Thunder franchise 22 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: they do, I guess have a championship from the Sonics 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: days but they've yet to win one since relocating to 24 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: okac As for Minnesota, they're still in search of their 25 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 3: first NBA Finals appearance, though they're just four wins away 26 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 3: from going to that final round. So let's break it down. 27 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: Chime in in the stream, team your thoughts, your predictions. 28 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: But we usually start with things to watch in this 29 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: one versus six matchup. Weird, Yeah, right, the Wolves think 30 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: they're the Rockets from the nineties here as a sixty 31 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: to go win the whole thing. But ta's let's start 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: with you. What's something you got your eye on heading 33 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: into thunder Wolves that starts tonight. 34 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, baby, feels like a wide open forsome here. 35 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 3: Yeah. 36 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: I will say if the Minnesota Timberwolves want to take 37 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 4: out Okay see obviously the best team, it starts with 38 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards. That's what I'll be watching, Just Anthony Edwards 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: and whether he'll start better than he started against Golden State. 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 4: He did not start well in that first game and 41 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: Golden State win took game one, and I thought just 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 4: was a little PASSI didn't know where to be. He's 43 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: shot only fifty four percent in the restricted area. He's 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: got to start zipping that ball out to the corners 45 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 4: a little bit more against an incredible defense which is 46 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: going to show him bodies. Then those corner threes will 47 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 4: be there for his teammates because okay See does allow them, 48 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: and the guys are shooting out right from the corner threes. 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 4: You know, nas Reid's making it happen forty four percent 50 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: from three in the corner. Jay McDaniels doing all right 51 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 4: himself at thirty eight percent. There's guys that can do it. 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 4: But will Anthony Edwards be that guy to start zipping 53 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: it out because okay sees defense. I think will be 54 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: better off than when they started against Denver. I think 55 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: what they got going for them is that there was 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 4: eight days off before they played Denver in Game one. 57 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: They only have one day off here. I think that 58 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 4: benefits them. They will just be ready to go. This 59 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 4: is a fricking young team. I think they'll be spry 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: and ready to fly against okay See. The season, I 61 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: think it was only shot thirty six percent from the floor. 62 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 4: Thirty one percent from three regular season doesn't really matter. 63 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: I think it does because Okay s He's just gonna 64 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: bring all those guys around. They're gonna bring that toilet defense. 65 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 4: They're gonna start swarming him. 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: How will he react? How will he react? 67 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 4: He's got to start better, I think then against the 68 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 4: Warriors team, which was a far, far inferior team. 69 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: Even though you've compared him before a little bit to Lebron. 70 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 71 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Anthony Edwards does seem to like feel out a game, 72 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: feel out a series, or at least that's what he's 73 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: shown us. I mean, and it's worked out obviously getting 74 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: to the conference finals. But yeah, they just have so 75 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: many priventer guys to throw in them, like you're gonna 76 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: start in the dort chamber. So you got lou dord Onya. 77 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: But of course we're gonna see Caruso on him, probably 78 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: case all us at times, maybe even j dub I 79 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: guess in theory SGA could get matched on him at time. 80 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of great perimeter defenders and this 81 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: is an elite defense. So ann is a big one. 82 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: Is the number one thing to watch, specifically his decision making. 83 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: This is the biggest test yet. LA was a pretty 84 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: easy series for Anthony Edwards, all things considered. He knew 85 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: where the automatics were going to come from. Six turnovers 86 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: in five games. That was incredible Golden State. It was 87 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 2: more of a tail of two halves. He played pretty 88 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: poorly in the first half of every game and then 89 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 2: dominated the second half of every game. Is really what 90 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: it felt like. You mentioned They've got tons of options 91 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: on the OKC side for who could stick Edwards. They're 92 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: going to be messing around with the schemes as well, 93 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: and it is important and imperative that Anthony Edwards does 94 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: not turn the ball over against Oka. See Minnesota turns 95 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: the ball over quite a bit. They're eleventh in turnover 96 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: percentage in the playoffs. Only sixteen teams made it. They're 97 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: the worst remaining. Oklahoma City is first enforcing turnovers. We 98 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: saw in the second half of Game seven. They just 99 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: turned Denver over time after time after time, getting easy buckets. 100 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: On the other end, getting Jalen Williams going, Caruso running 101 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: wild out there case and Wallace looking like the fastest 102 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: guy on the court. That is the best source of 103 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: offense for OKC is going from defense to offense. Their 104 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: transition game is unstoppable. So the Wolves, who have been 105 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: pretty turnover prone throughout this playoffs, unfortunately, the thunder can 106 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: make them pay. So it's gonna be on Edwards to 107 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 2: play like pretty much perfect basketball. 108 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it's a good point. On the other side, 109 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 3: I am curious to see how much Wolves zone defense 110 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: they throw it, okay see, because we saw Denver did 111 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: have some success with that, like it really I don't 112 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: know if it con O'Casey was by surprise, but they 113 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: were struggling. They were shooting too early in it. They 114 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: weren't really penetrating inside in some of those games, and 115 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 3: Denver really went to it sort of a two three 116 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: zone though you could almost call it like we talked 117 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: about at times, it was like a two to one 118 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: two zone where the yolkich was sort of more in 119 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: the middle pulled up instead of at the back line. 120 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: And That'll be fascinated to see what the Wolves do 121 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: if they tried it as well. You have great defenders 122 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: out there in your team and McDaniels and then Rudy 123 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: Gobert as a four time Defense Player of the Year, 124 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: but like he can operate in the zone, but is 125 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 3: that where he's best served? And I'm just fascinating to 126 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: see how much Finch will implement it against okay See, 127 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 3: because again, it did work for huge stretches of that. 128 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: Nuggets serious, So why wouldn't you try to think. 129 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: They're gonna absolutely try it. It'll probably be more of 130 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: a curve ball, I think for Minnesota than it was 131 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: for Denver. Denver didn't have a lot of other options. 132 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: They just don't have the defensive talent yeah, that the 133 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: Timberwolves have. But okay See got some practice. They got 134 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: better as time went on. Jalen Williams awesome breaking the zone. 135 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: Alex Crusso awesome breaking the zone. But you gotta make 136 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: three pointers and you're gonna have to be able to 137 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: identify it quickly because I'm guessing that the Timberwolves will 138 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: be guarding straight up for the most part. But then 139 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: when they absolutely need to shut okay See down, gum 140 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 2: up the works, they can go to the zone. 141 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, they will see it. It is wild to look 142 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: at the stats for okay SE's three point shooters. They 143 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 4: have not been great have these first two rounds. Six 144 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 4: of their nine guys below thirty five percent, Way below 145 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: thirty five percent. You got your shay has just been 146 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: struggling from three. Will that come and happen again? It 147 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: feel like it won't. Twenty nine percent Lou Dort twenty 148 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: eight percent, J Dubb twenty five percent. It just feels 149 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: weird that has to come around. 150 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: I imagine. 151 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 4: Is it because of the double bigs that they're playing 152 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: and they just are able, The defenses are able to 153 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: get out to those three point shooters and the passes 154 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: aren't on point. Is that what it is? Or is 155 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 4: it just there've been missing shots. I mean, it is 156 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 4: weird to see chet Aaron Wagan's all below thirty five percent. 157 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: I think that just comes back to earth that they 158 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 4: shoot better and that this I feel like that's gonna 159 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: happen here in round. 160 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: Three we talked about and maybe his struggles in the 161 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: regular season versus the Thunder the opposite happened with SGA 162 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: versus Minnesota this year. His numbers were crazy in the 163 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: regular season against Many, he averaged thirty five points, seven boards, 164 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: nearly seven assists in the four games he played, shot 165 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: fifty six percent from the floor and excuse me, fifty 166 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: six percent from three. So he actually was hitting three 167 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: ball against Minnesota, and he got to the free throw 168 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: line a ton too, And I think that's something to 169 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: watch early in these games. Does McDaniels get into foul 170 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: trouble early. Does he pick up two three early ones 171 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: through the first fifteen minutes or so of the game, 172 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 3: because the Wolves have to take I think at least 173 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: you got to take away one of those facets of 174 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: SGA's game, either getting him on the free throw line 175 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: and racking up easy points that way, or obviously trying 176 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: to take away the three ball and just all of 177 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: that scoring that he had in the in the success 178 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: he had against them. It can't be all of that 179 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: because there's no way they win the series in my opinion. 180 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: If he's like click in from three, he's got the 181 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: scoring and he's getting to the free throw line as 182 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: well as setting up guys. It got to shut off something. 183 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: And obviously they're gonna they're gonna have confidence in it 184 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 3: because it's crazy he had those numbers. But McDaniel's is 185 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: a great defender, and like, you're the type of guy 186 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 3: you'd want and put on him, and I'm sure we're 187 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: gonna see some Niki Alexander Walker as well on his 188 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 3: cousin off completely Yeah, yes, that's right. 189 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: So I think go barely one game against yeah, yeah, yeah, 190 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: So I think these are these regular season matchups are 191 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: real toilet bowld defense flush them away. 192 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 3: Okay, they had. 193 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: Three times in like four games. 194 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: I was gonna say they had a weird stretch there 195 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 3: where they had the back to back road series, like 196 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: they went back and forth between Okasee and Minnesota on 197 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: back to back knights and then they played Yeah, they 198 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: played another one right around there too, but it was uh, 199 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: you know, I guess it was in February, some of 200 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: those actions, yeah around there. 201 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the okay see defense matters in the 202 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: regular season. The Minnesota defense may not matter because they're 203 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: going to. 204 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: Change it up. 205 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: But they did send two guys at shay that's what 206 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: they did and let the three point shooters try and 207 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: beat them, which is probably what they're gonna do. Yeah, 208 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 4: because that's what you try and do against Okay see, 209 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: we'll see. I mean, these those numbers are crazy. They 210 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: just throughout the first two rounds of these playoffs that 211 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: these guys can't shoot the three all these okay See guys, 212 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: I mean basically most of the rotation. 213 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: So we'll see what up. 214 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 3: X factors in thunder Wolves. We'll start with you, Trey, 215 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: who you got your eye on here? 216 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: Dante DiVincenzo I think is a huge X factory. Shooting 217 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: twenty five percent from three in the playoffs, that's not 218 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: very good, and he's like their three point bomber outside 219 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: of Edwards, who obviously takes and makes the most in 220 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: the league. This year, you gotta hit three pointers to 221 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: beat okay See once again, this is going to be 222 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: a size versus speed battle. Minnesota great offensive rebounding team, 223 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: loves to score inside. Oklahoma City, solid defensive rebounding team, 224 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 2: and they're brilliant at taking away the paint. So the 225 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,239 Speaker 2: three point shots are going to be there. Dante DiVincenzo 226 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: needs to hit him the thunder bench. I don't think 227 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: they're great shooters, but they have been hitting timely threes, 228 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: like we talked about, Wiggins hit a couple in Game seven, 229 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: Caruso had one case, and Wallace had one. But this 230 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: could be an advantage for Minnesota. I think between nos Reed, 231 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: who is on fire in the playoffs. He's forty six 232 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: percent from three in the playoffs so far, he's gonna 233 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: be important. When Minnesota is like getting bogged down, They're like, 234 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: we can't go with go Bear right now. Need somebody 235 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: to come in and bomb threes. I said, Devincenzo just 236 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: hasn't found a stroke so far in the playoffs. They're 237 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: gonna need him to hit. They're gonna need Jade McDaniels 238 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: to be confident. Like his percentages look good, but he's 239 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: six for sixteen against the Lakers. That's a decent percentage. 240 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: Four for thirteen, but we're talking about like one three 241 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 2: pointer made per game for this guy. His attacking the 242 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 2: closeout game has been a lot better in the playoffs. 243 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: His handle looks nice. He's getting into the mid range 244 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: and finishing. But I assume that Chet Holmgren will be 245 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: roaming off of McDaniels a lot in this series. The 246 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 2: shots are going to be there. He needs to take 247 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: him and make him. And then I think de Vincenzo 248 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: needs to have a forty three point shooting kind of 249 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 2: series for Minnesota to score enough to keep up with Okay. 250 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: See, yeah, I think it's on Anthony Edwards to start 251 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: zipping that ball out to those guys because he's seem 252 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 4: a little passive to start that Golden State series where 253 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 4: he's having little flashbacks to the regular season. They just 254 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: can't start that same way. And yeah, Jane McDaniel's has 255 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 4: to come through. The percentages aren't percentages in the shooting 256 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 4: just aren't impressive enough, Like thirty eight percent from the 257 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 4: corners not good enough. They got to jump up a 258 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 4: little bit. Devincenzo has been better from the corners than 259 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: he was from throughout overall as a three point shooter. 260 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 4: You know, thirty three percent, that's fine, Ki Alexander Walker, Tony, 261 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: I know it's not fine. 262 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: It's it's better than his other ones. 263 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 2: He's better than twenty five. 264 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but you said it. 265 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: I mean, okay, see that's one shot. They give up, Yeah, 266 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: give up the corner. You gotta knock him down. 267 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: With this all guys. 268 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, so Jayden, Dimoncenzo and Nah who struggled everywhere. Yeah, 269 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: they need to step up because, yeah, your other guys 270 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: have been great and Read and Conley and Edwards. So 271 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 4: for me on the other side, the other side is 272 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: the middle of the fricking floor. Julius Randall is going 273 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: to be pummeling guys. That's what he's going to do. 274 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 4: He did it against Lebron, did against Draymond Green. Now 275 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 4: how's okay, see going to manage that? 276 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: And that is the big question. 277 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 4: I think he's the X factor because you're going to 278 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 4: see Hartenstein against them a very good, very good defender. 279 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 4: Will you see Mark Dagnell say, all right, the guy 280 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 4: that guarded Jokic one on one and Jalen Williams, j 281 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 4: will will he be able to do that, and you'll 282 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: get the other Jayalen Williams, You'll get the Jay dub 283 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: out there to try and slow him down because he's 284 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 4: got to be zipping it around to corner threes as well. 285 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 4: Uh And even if Julius Randall misses, because they're going 286 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 4: to probably play him one on one, you're not gonna 287 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 4: see what they did against You're just going to see 288 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 4: one on one. They do grab their offensive boards extremely well. 289 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: The team grabbed thirty five percent of their misses in 290 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: the postseason. That's the best of all the teams left 291 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 4: second amongst the sixteen playoff teams in the Thunder are 292 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 4: the worst defensive rebounding team still among all teams left. 293 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 4: You know, I say still because it's a little bit 294 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 4: reminiscent of last year before they went and acquired Isaiah Heartenstein. 295 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: So I think you do play Randal one on one 296 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: because you don't want to be giving up offensive boards, Like, 297 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 4: if you're going to help out, it's going to be 298 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: it's going to be a struggle against this team to 299 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 4: grab boards. 300 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: That being said, it's up to Randall. 301 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 4: We've seen two of his best playoff series. 302 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: This post is the. 303 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: Best basketball he's ever played. 304 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 2: I think. 305 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, in these high stakes games. He's averaging twenty four, 306 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: six and six, shooting fifty one percent in the postseason, 307 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: and he's been He's also did this thing where like 308 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 3: multiple instances, Randall has just kept Minnesota in games. He's 309 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: kept them afloat and sort of gets you know, overlooked 310 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: because you know, we've focused more on the second half 311 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 3: and the fourth quarters and the clutch play. But like 312 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 3: the allows Anthony rhythms, Anthony rhythms, he allows Anthony Edwards 313 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: to find his rhythm and then sort of like turn 314 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 3: it on in second halfs. That's He's been huge Randall 315 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: early parts of games. So he's got to continue that. 316 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, I can't wait to see what Dagnall did, 317 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: Like who they put on him, like Caruso. You get 318 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: a chance to obviously bang with him, so that'll be fun. 319 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: On the other side, Chet Holmgren, Minnesota, boy, I think 320 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: you're gonna see the Thunder use him as like a 321 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: small ball. He's not small, but like as a center 322 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: in this to see if they can pull Rudy away 323 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: from the rim and he needs to be able to 324 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: hit shots. He's been like, he's been really good. I 325 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: think in the postseason. I don't think Chet's been amazing, 326 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: But I wonder if this is the series where he's 327 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: unlocked and has a little more confidence to let it fly. 328 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: If Rudy, if we see that five on five the 329 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: two bigs there because he needs to do that. It 330 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: allows it opens up everything and allows SGA and JDub 331 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: to drive more. If Rudy's like a step or two 332 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: more because he's got to worry about Homer and shooting three. 333 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: So I'm excited for that one. 334 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, I will see. I'll praise Oscars because how 335 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: awesome he is. It's going to be different for Caruso 336 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: playing a Randall versus a Jokic, just because of where 337 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 4: they start a lot of times, because Rand's gonna start 338 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 4: further out and bully him and try and bully. 339 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a different. Yeah, it's good. 340 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 4: Well, Yeah, Cruso's strong as hell, but he's not going 341 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: to be able to do what he did against Jokic 342 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 4: in front and go around like crazy. It's just gonna 343 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 4: be a different defense. So it's a lot on Randall's shoulders. 344 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: There's no doubt. 345 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: Randa needs to keep it up. He needs to play 346 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: as well as he did these first two series because 347 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: they might not play him one on one a lot 348 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: because if they're getting the ball at Anthony Edwards hands, 349 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: there's not enough guys left to play him one on one, 350 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: so he's gonna have to make good decisions. He hasn't 351 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: shot the three ball well. That's one of the only 352 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: knocks on him. And the turnovers. The Thunder are gonna 353 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: be super handsy with him. They're going to try and 354 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: frustrate him just the same way they did with Jokic, 355 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: and they forced a ton of turnovers off of Jokic. 356 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: Julius Randall is a much higher turnover player than Nikola 357 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: Jokic has ever been. So we'll see how he handles 358 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: bump bump from Caruso and he tips the ball away. 359 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: Same thing with Jaln Williams. He's got super long arms 360 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: to absorb some bumps. For Randall, it's gonna come down 361 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: to the number two series once again, who plays better 362 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: Jaalen Williams or Julius Randall. We'll see Randall's been better 363 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: for the entirety of the postseason so far. But clearly 364 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: this is the best defense that the Timberwolves are going against. 365 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: Hilarious, Kelly Dwyer stat if you want to call it that, 366 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: or at least point that made me chuckle. So Mike 367 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: Conley really actually hit a lot of his threes in 368 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: that regular season matchup, again, missing a lot of guys 369 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: like Trey noted that. That's definitely a fair point, but 370 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 3: he was good. He was nine to seventeen from three. 371 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: Mike Conley was a large improvement. Kelly Dwyer wrote on 372 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: the one of five Conley shot on threes in three 373 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: contests against the Seattle SuperSonics in seven to eight as 374 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: a rookie. Yeah, that's right. Conley's playing the thunder here 375 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: in the conference finals and he played against the Seattle 376 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: SuperSonics in his rookie season. That made me laugh that. 377 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: Mike Conley, as Kelly noted, has worked against the New 378 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: Jersey Nets, the New Orleans Hornets, and the Charlotte Bobcats, 379 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: as well as the Seattle super Sonics. Mike Conley been 380 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: around the block. 381 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: Never played the Washington bullet not really missed out, missed 382 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: out on that. 383 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to his first finals. 384 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: Man. 385 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, is it any other X factors or any other 386 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 3: notes before we go to our predictions? All right, task, 387 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: get a started here. Where are you leaning thunder Wolves 388 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: with your prediction? 389 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 4: I'm taking the Thunder in six. I think that. Yeah, 390 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: the Minnesota Timberwolves. They look super strong against their the 391 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 4: first two opponents. It's going to be different against Okay, see, 392 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 4: such a young team. The athleticism will be matched for 393 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 4: Minnesota and surpassed. I mean, okay, see, he's just too athletic. 394 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: We'll start with there. I think their Thunder. I think 395 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 4: the Thunder will start shooting the three ball a lot 396 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: of bit better. I think we're going to see the 397 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: best Thunder of the playoffs this series. I think they're 398 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: getting better. They show that they've got the the vim 399 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 4: and the vigor to bring some intensity like they showed 400 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 4: in Game seven of Denver, and I think that carries over. 401 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: I like the fact that they only have one day 402 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 4: off these this these teams sout and. 403 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 3: They don't have to travel as well, which is beneficial obviously. 404 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: Game seven at home and then they're there. Yeah, they're 405 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: like on a regular season schedule basically right now. Yeah yeah, Okay, 406 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: so you have Thunder in six. Trey Kirby, where are 407 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: you going? 408 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: I'm a task. I think it's OKC in six. I 409 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: think the Thunder defense is just too good to allow 410 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: Minnesota's up and down offense to outscore them four times 411 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: in a game. I think even if OKC shoots thirty 412 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: two percent from three, like they have so far in 413 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: the playoffs, they can still win this one comfortably just 414 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: because they're so good turning defense into offense. I think 415 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: the turnovers are going to be a big time problem 416 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: for Minnesota and that is the one thing you can't 417 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 2: do against OKAC. And they're the best turnover forcing team 418 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: that we've seen in the twenty twenties. 419 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, their ability just to force turnovers, that's that could 420 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: be the difference. I mean, when we get into these 421 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: games that's flirting with twenty turnovers and it feels like 422 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: it's a wrap and that's an OKAYC win. If Minnesota 423 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 3: can't take control of the ball and those are live 424 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: ball turnovers at that. Hey, if you're going to turn 425 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: it over Minnesota, chuck it out of bounce. Okay, don't 426 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: get it popped away there by a carus Orol Wallace, 427 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: because that's a track meet. They're going to score. Both 428 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 3: teams here are qualified, obviously to advance to the final. Boss. Okay, 429 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: see won sixty eight games. I know I keep saying it, 430 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: but I think it gets clossed over it. That's awesome. 431 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 3: You can bet on their defense. As you guys talked about, 432 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: they beat Yokich. They do feel like they gained some 433 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: confidence in getting over that hump, and even if it 434 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 3: took seven, they got there. They have the soon to 435 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: be named maybe one day to be named MVP and 436 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: shake Gildos Alexander what the hell is going on? NBA? 437 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: So that's cool. But Minnesota man to give them credit. 438 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: They made it to this stage last season, and so 439 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: many times we see that step by step progression with 440 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: really good teams. You get to that level, then you 441 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: lose and you get to the next level. So maybe 442 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: that's in their favor being to the conference finals last year. 443 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 3: They're one of the hottest teams in the Western Conference 444 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 3: since March. One of the hottest teams in the league 445 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 3: really since March and when Randall came back and they 446 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 3: got Ant and I'm excited to see Ant here yea 447 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: in this battle versus all those guys that we talked 448 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: about in the Thunder. But all that said, I go 449 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: back to something you said about the three point shooting. 450 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: You said at thirty two thirty one point nine percent. 451 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 3: The Thunder shot in from three this postseason on a 452 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: lot of attempts, thirty nine attempts per game. I think 453 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: that's the most of the final four teams here as well. 454 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: I think that's gonna come back to the mean a 455 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: little bit. I think that's gonna tick up a little 456 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 3: bit from some of their shooters here. I think, Holme, 457 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: we're going is gonna have a big series. And then 458 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: I think, you know, obviously Caruso is probably gonna get 459 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 3: more opportunity, maybe have another good Dort game, Wiggans, Wallace, 460 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 3: all these guys. And because of that, I'm going Thunder 461 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: in six as well. We've got six six to six, 462 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: everybody taking Okay, see here at the desk, what are 463 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: the people saying? 464 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: In our poll, sixty two percent of people think that 465 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: the Thunder Thunder will win. Okay, that's basically calling Thunder 466 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: and six. 467 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah the games. Yeah, seems like a seems like a 468 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: popular pick. I mean, obviously a lot of people think 469 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: it could go seven and maybe the home court of 470 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: Angage will come through again for okay See. But like 471 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: it's nice to see when you go to the ESPN 472 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 3: experts and their picks. Unlike some of the previous series 473 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 3: where it was just all of them for one team, 474 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: this one in both of these conference finals, it's a 475 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 3: little more balanced. I think okay See is still like 476 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 3: eight to five or something in this series on ESPN, 477 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: and even I know the Athletic doing it as well. 478 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: There's a couple of people picking the Wolves in the series. 479 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: And then the same thing as we get to the East. 480 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: You know, you can talk yourself into any four of 481 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 3: these teams. Obviously some particular matchup getting in the end. Definitely, 482 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: there's the balances there. 483 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 4: There's some national patriotism here. Vote for Anthony Edwards in 484 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 4: the USA versus Shay and Canada. Sure, I will say 485 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 4: you just mentioned Kayson Wallace there when you made your prediction. 486 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 4: I think that was the first mention of Cason Wallas 487 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: that guy has been so so so good getting aggressive defensively. 488 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 4: I will say about the Shay MVP announcement, I'm kind 489 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 4: of okay, they're going to do it on an off 490 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 4: day where they're not playing, and so that's how it 491 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 4: feels anyways, that they're not handing him the trophy pre game. 492 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: I kind of like that. 493 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 3: I'm starting to wonder if OKC has said we don't 494 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: want to do it at all during our playoff run, 495 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: and then are thus like saying to the NBA we're 496 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: not doing it at all until we're done, which we've 497 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 3: never done that before that I can remember, so I 498 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 3: don't know, like otherwise it doesn't make much sense. We've 499 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 3: had tons of opportunities here. Yes, they've had a lot 500 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: of off days between games. 501 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: Do you think they're going to. 502 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: Wait, well, I don't know at this point in mid 503 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 4: June or whatever late June. 504 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: Until they lose, is what I'm starting to convince myself. 505 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, the thunder, like they operate like 506 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: the Spurs right as another a little bit. Yeah, they're 507 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: just like they're just like so like we don't want 508 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: to bring attention to that whatever. 509 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: But maybe. 510 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 3: During the right again, I guess it's odd. 511 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: It's odd. 512 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: I think we are learning all rookie teams today. 513 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: Though finally, yes, finally cool. 514 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: We don't know all NBA teams either, do it? Okay, 515 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: so that should come this week maybe. All right, so 516 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 3: we got thunder and six the people you said like 517 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: sixty two percent here in our stream team poll, also 518 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: going with okayc but uh, obviously get your takes there 519 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: in the stream team. Let's move to the East, where 520 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 3: a classic rivalry is renewed as the Knicks take on 521 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: the Pacers. With a trip to the NBA Finals on 522 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: the line for both teams, stakes couldn't be higher. Either 523 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 3: the Knicks chase their first championship in over half a century, 524 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 3: or the Pacers will aim to capture their first NBA 525 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: title in franchise history. Don't you worry. Those ABA banners 526 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: fly forever. 527 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: That's right. Nineteen seventy three, big year. 528 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: That's huge, huge team, both teams, that's right. So one 529 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: thing to watch in the number three seeded Knicks versus 530 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: number four seeded Pacers will start with utrick. 531 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 2: I can't wait. Two high powered offenses. We got the 532 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: clutch player of the year going up against the new 533 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: Reggie Miller with history behind them from a historical standpoint, 534 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: and just at these team standpoint they met last year, 535 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: so of course I'm starting with defense, That's right me. 536 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 2: Who guards Karl Anthony Towns is a huge question for me, 537 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: and it's kind of also a question of who is 538 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 2: Aaron Neismith gonna guard. I think he is a huge 539 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: player in this series, so more than likely, at least 540 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 2: for Game one, Indiana comes out and has Miles Turner 541 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 2: guard Karl Anthony town try and play a little bit 542 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 2: of a traditional style. Maybe Turner can get a late 543 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 2: switch on to Brunson if you need be and try 544 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: and hang for a little bit. But I think the 545 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: smartest thing to do, which most teams are doing now, 546 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: is to put a wing on Carl Anthony Towns. Mess 547 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: with the Knicks standard offense one to two game Brunson 548 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: and Towns make them think a little bit. If you 549 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: start Nie Smith on Towns, he can switch on to Brunson. 550 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: He's their best Brunson defender as well, sometimes a te 551 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: but the Pacers don't really like to do that. They're 552 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: one of the few teams that has guarded Towns straight 553 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 2: up with their center. But The smarter thing to do 554 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: is to trick Carl Anthony Towns by putting a small guy. 555 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 2: He's been pretty good in the post, but he doesn't 556 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: necessarily know where to assert himself all the time, I 557 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 2: think when he has a smaller guy on him. So 558 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: the question will be who's guarding Brunson If Nee Smith 559 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: switches on to Towns. I guess it's nem Hard. He 560 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: didn't do very well against Brunson last year. Nie Smith 561 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: was certainly more successful. Well. That also means where's Tyree's 562 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: Halliburton going? Is Josh Hart gonna get unlocked for offensive rebounds? 563 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of questions to answer for 564 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: Indiana about how they're gonna match up defensively because there's 565 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: not great hiding places against the Knicks starting lineups, particularly 566 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: for Halliburton. So I think that'll be a real chess match. 567 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: Like I'm saying, I assume they'll start traditional, It probably 568 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: won't work all that great, and then they'll have to 569 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: go to messing around with matchups and stuff. But I 570 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: think it's going to be fascinating to see who they 571 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: put these two guards on, like Nemhard and Nie Smith. 572 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: I guess Nesmith's more of a forward, but nonetheless a 573 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: perimeter player. They're both so good at ball pressure. They're 574 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: gonna want to try and wear down the Knicks. But 575 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: Brunson succeeds against the guy who's smaller than him in nemhard. 576 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 2: You gotta have some length on him. But if Nee 577 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: Smith's guarding Brunson, how can you guard Towns. It doesn't 578 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 2: make sense unless they're in the switch mode and then 579 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: he can go both ways. So I think that's the 580 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: smarter thing to do. 581 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, with Nie Smith on Brunson, we are going to 582 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 4: get a game where Nie Smith gets into foul trouble 583 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 4: because Bronson it is pumping. He's he's doing the pump 584 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 4: fakes and he gets him into foul trouble, which he 585 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: has been prone to do a little bit here in 586 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 4: the postseason, averaging four fouls per game. And if your 587 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 4: guardian bruns And that's going to be extremely tough. I 588 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: am interested. On the other side, how the Knicks guard 589 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: the Halburn and Miles Turner pick and roll that we're 590 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 4: going to see over and over and over again. Now, 591 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: the Knicks showed that they are a new Knicks in 592 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 4: Game six against the Celtics, they switched tomes to that though, 593 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 4: old guy learning new tricks, he said, all right, we're 594 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 4: gonna switch, which we didn't do during the regular season. 595 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 4: I think that is so, so, so so important against 596 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 4: this Pacers team. You got to keep switching because as 597 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 4: soon as you let off and give a little bit 598 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: of space to one of these guys, they are all weapons. 599 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: They're all playing extremely well. It is ridiculous when you 600 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 4: look at the numbers. So as soon as they get 601 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 4: a little bit of space, if the Knicks decide that 602 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 4: they're not gonna fly around and communicate and play with 603 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 4: that vim and vigor that they did against in Game 604 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 4: six against Celtics and not going to switch, I think 605 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: the Pacers will kill They will They will score so 606 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 4: many freaking points. 607 00:26:59,720 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 1: I know. 608 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 4: These these stats are a little nuts. How when you 609 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 4: start to look at Wowmhard, Yeah, an incredible player in 610 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: the playoffs. Same goes for very Nie Smith. Their numbers 611 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 4: have jumped a lot. 612 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: The two best shooters in the playoffs aren't pretty far. Nemhard, 613 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: Nie Smith and Siakam like the three best shooters right 614 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: now in the playoffs in terms of like efficiency. 615 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Pacers have the best three point percentage and 616 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: best two point percentage in the playoffs so far. 617 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why their true shooting percentage of sixty two 618 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 4: and a half that is a ridiculously big number. So 619 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 4: I think the Knicks just have to be ready to 620 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 4: keep switching and that will help them out because as 621 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 4: soon as you give them a little bit of space, 622 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 4: they're going to find a way to score. 623 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 3: I want to know if the Knicks starters can hold 624 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: their own against these Pacers starters, because we saw how 625 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: many times the Knicks starters were like in a hole 626 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 3: in a hurry in that Celtics series. I don't think 627 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: that can happen against this Pacers team. Their starters, their 628 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 3: first unit, Haliburton, Nemhart, Nie Smith, Siakam and Miles Turner 629 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 3: destroyed opponents in the regular season by twelve point two 630 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 3: points per one hundre possessions. They've been even better here 631 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. So the Knicks can just not get 632 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: into these holes. That's not going to work in this series. 633 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 3: I don't think against Indiana and the speed they play with, 634 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 3: and that's the other part. Which team can make the 635 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 3: other team play their game. That'll be a huge talking 636 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: point you can hear Reggie Miller telling it to you 637 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 3: now on the broadcast. Because New York plays slow twenty 638 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: eighth in seconds per possession. Indiana up tempo offense. You know, 639 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: they're like sixth in seconds per possession. So their run run, run. 640 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: So who can like sort of win that battle of 641 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: like no, no, no, let's drag you down play a 642 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: more methodical game. Can the Knicks do that to the Pacers? 643 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: Or obviously can the Pacers get the Knicks going in 644 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: sort of this running gun style and say, oh yeah, 645 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: we love it. So I can't wait to see how 646 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: that changes from game to game and whether that has 647 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: an impact on who can even play in this series. 648 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: The Knicks always talk about wanting to play fast, and 649 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: I don't believe them. No, Josh hart Man, that guy 650 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: wants to play fast. Yes, for sure, Towns does get 651 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: most of his three point attempts like trailer and transition, 652 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: for sure, But it always sounds weird to be because like, 653 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: when I think of the Knicks, I just think of 654 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: Brunton taking twenty seconds finding his way to a twelve 655 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: footer and then you know, jumping back into a guy 656 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: and somehow making the shot as well, they play a 657 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: methodical style, but they always talk about wanting to play fast. 658 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: I know the Pacers want to play Yes, we talk 659 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: all the time, teams slow down in the playoffs. You're 660 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: not able to play that tempo they are. They get 661 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: teams to play their style. They've played their style. I 662 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: feel like almost every game so far this postseason, outside 663 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: of Game four against the Calves when they went zone 664 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: and then they shredded the zone in the very next 665 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: game as well. So the tempo of this series is 666 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: going to be huge. You're totally right about switching, but 667 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: that puts a lot of pressure on Karl Anthony Towns 668 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: to not mess up, Like know who you're guarding, know 669 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,239 Speaker 2: who to switch on, know if you're in drop or 670 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: in switch. This is a big defensive series, I think 671 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: for Tons. 672 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Haliburton. You know when we talk about the 673 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: pace and all that, in the speed of the game, 674 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 3: Haliburton leads the Pacers in minutes at thirty four per game. 675 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 3: That's it. Because they have a deep, deep team. They 676 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: play a lot of guys. Every player the Knicks starting 677 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: lineup averaging at least thirty six minutes played. And we're 678 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: talking bridges and og. Those guys are flirting with like forty. 679 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 3: So is Brunson. He might be at forty in this series. 680 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: And you just want to kind a team with like 681 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: that really short bench and like leaning heavily on big 682 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: minutes from their starters. Can they survive indies like full 683 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 3: core press, Like they're gonna be out there full court 684 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: pressing them because McConnell's gonna play, you know, Mathmon's gonna 685 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 3: play like they'll get out there and that's their whole mo. 686 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: It's like we think we can just out grind you 687 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: just because we just like you're just gonna get exhausted. 688 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: But then again, the next team like built for this, 689 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 3: as if they've like put in marathon trading. That's right 690 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 3: all season long because they play heavy minutes. So maybe 691 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 3: they're the one team that can sustain it. I can't 692 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: wait to see anything else to watch, or let's go 693 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: to X factors. Who do you got circled here? 694 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 4: I have Karl Anthony Towns on both ends. It is 695 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 4: really important. I do think the Pacers, because they don't 696 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 4: turn it over, they'll be the team that it's hard 697 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 4: to score on in transition. And I know the Knicks 698 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 4: don't want to run. Because the Pacers have the best 699 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 4: assistant turnover ratio since jan one. It's going to be 700 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 4: tough for col Anthony Towns to find those trailing threes. 701 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 4: How are you going to try and find it in 702 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 4: half court sets? 703 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: Doubt it. 704 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: So we'll see on the offensive end. But he's going 705 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 4: to be so important on the defensive end as well. 706 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 4: Just where he's going to be, he may have to 707 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 4: sit a few minutes. That's why Mitchell Robinson will come in, 708 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 4: whether it's foul trouble or just exhaustion, because they're going 709 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 4: to try and run him through a bunch of. 710 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: Pick and rolls. 711 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a lot of jobs to do on 712 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 4: the defensive end and the offensive end. I do want 713 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 4: to see because running will be tough against his Pacers team. 714 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 4: If he's going to score, where he's going to get 715 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 4: those points. But if Pascal Siakam is the guy against him, 716 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 4: he should be able to take him on the post. 717 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 4: So the options there for him offensively are there? Will 718 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 4: he take advantage of them when he's got so many 719 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 4: freaking responsibilities here? 720 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: Who you got is a Knick facts are also a 721 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: Knicks big guy. Mitchell Robinson Mitchell Robinson dominated in their 722 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: last series against the Celtics. I'm curious to see how 723 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: New York can play double big against the Pacers team 724 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: that's trying to run him out of the gym. That's 725 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: just a tough matchup, I think for Towns and Robinson 726 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: to run with. You know, if it's Siakam and Turner, 727 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: even if it's Obi Toppin. He's a guy that loves 728 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: to run the court as well. But offensive rebounding can 729 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: be a tilt point. I think for New York. It 730 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: certainly was against Boston. Neither team turns the ball over 731 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: a lot, So if New York's trying to get ahead 732 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: in the possession game, definitely Mitchell Robinson's offensive rebounding could 733 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: be huge. The Pacers are not a great defensive rebounding team. 734 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: They don't have a lot of bulk inside amongst their 735 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: big guys, and if Robinson is offensive rebounding, that really 736 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: slows the Pacers down. If the Pacers decide we got 737 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: to get this guy out, We're going to smack a mitch. 738 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: That really slows the Pacers down. Go into free throws 739 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: every single time. Now they can run off of missed 740 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: free throws, but I saw Mitchell Robinson hitting the night 741 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: night after going six for six at one point. He 742 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: can make them. But we will see if he's able 743 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: to stay on the court this series. He's really shown 744 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: everybody something. I think the way he defends the quickness 745 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: he is able to bring on the perimeter, so he 746 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: should be able to hang. But I don't know if 747 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: he's gonna be as effective as he was against Boston. 748 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 2: Let's see if he can do it. 749 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 3: Unless Tibbs tries to put kat Like on a forward. 750 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: The defensive matchups will likely be Bridges on Halliburton, og 751 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 3: on Siakam, Heart on Nemhard Brunson on Nie Smith. Obviously 752 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 3: could flip those two and then Carl Anthony Town's on Turner. 753 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: That's the main point here, and that's what you talked 754 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 3: about at the beginning. Trade like that's will probably start 755 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: with that Towns versus Turner, Turner versus Towns. But how 756 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 3: will they How will Towns deal with that? Like pick 757 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: and pop that Halliburton and Turner will try and run. 758 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: I can't wait to see that because Turner he is 759 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 3: like a streaky three point shooter, like when he's on, 760 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 3: he'll let it fly and he can connect because he's 761 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: a willing three point shooter. In the three games this postseason, 762 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 3: he's hit three or more three pointers, all wins. Of course, 763 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: in the one lost to Milwaukee, Turner was zero over 764 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: six from deep, and in the one lost to Cleveland 765 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 3: he only got two attempts up. He was in foul 766 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 3: trouble that game. He didn't. He had very little impact 767 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: on that game. And that's when we started to see 768 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: the zone in the thing and then they figured it out. 769 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 3: So Turner, to me is what I'm getting out here 770 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: is a big X factor. I think for the Pacers 771 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 3: and Towns is the big part of that because yeah, 772 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 3: what are you doing? Are you staying back? Are you 773 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 3: coming up? Is there pre switches and all that? Because 774 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 3: if Halliburton gets switched on, the town's too, that's different 775 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: than how Towns did I against Tatum and Brown. Hallimer's 776 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 3: just quicker, Yes, he's just way quicker. He will not 777 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: like size up towns like a Tatum or Brown will. 778 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: He will go go go, and he will blow by 779 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: him and then either like score at the rim or 780 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: inside or obviously splash out to three point shooters. 781 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: So now he's got the help out. 782 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because Tatum or Brown, it kind of they 783 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 4: kind of reverted to old Celtics ways. 784 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'll shoot on you. 785 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so that we'll see what Towns does though, 786 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 4: because he likes to drop back, will he be able 787 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 4: to spry himself forward get up there, because that's what 788 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 4: they wanted. That's that's how when they look their best 789 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 4: against bot Celics. That game six was their best defensive game. 790 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: Definitely, it was yeah yeah, but also game five they 791 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 2: were brutal. It was like they were putting him, putting 792 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: Towns into double screens all the time, and he had 793 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: no idea where to be. I'm just flashing back to 794 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 2: the Milwaukee series. Jana switched on to Tyrese Haliburton at 795 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: the end of regulation and at the end of overtime, 796 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: and he dusted him both times, going straight to the hoop. 797 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 2: He's just be honest. 798 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got wiggle, he's quick, he's smart. Obviously, he 799 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 3: doesn't settle for jumpers. Now he'll he loves that step 800 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 3: back three. He feels super comfortable taking that. So if 801 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: you back up too much, he's going to do that. 802 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 3: So that's fun. And then I also have Og as 803 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 3: an X factor. Crazy stat going around from Tommy Beer, 804 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 3: which is such a great name. He has. In the 805 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 3: eight games New York has won this postseason, Og is 806 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 3: averaging nineteen points per game on sixteen field goal attempts. 807 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 3: In the four games they lost, Og nine points per 808 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: game ten field goal attempts. And there's another stat like 809 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 3: if Og shoots like fourteen times or something this game, 810 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 3: it's like this season, like they're really really good record. 811 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 3: Same with Bridges when he scores, Like those guys they 812 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 3: got to help out runs in. Cat's been great against 813 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 3: Indiana his entire career. He's like awesome numbers against them. 814 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 3: Had forty on them this year. I guess that was 815 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 3: a February game. So he's probably gonna score. It's gonna 816 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 3: whether or not he gets exploited defensively, but Og man 817 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 3: like it might be like when Og plays well, they 818 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,959 Speaker 3: just have they look sort of become that unbeatable team. 819 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 3: I feel like, but he has to be aggressive and 820 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 3: attack and he's got to hit those threes that he 821 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 3: gets as well. He's been really really good this postseason. Yeah, 822 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 3: I kind of think it's gonna be Og VERSUSAKA. I know, 823 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 3: task doesn't care anymore, but for other Raptors fans, I might, 824 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: And I kind of think whichever one of them scores 825 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 3: twenty in a game, their team is going to win. Yeah, Yeah, 826 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 3: could be because man, yeah, when OG's going, nowaka, I 827 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 3: have more confidence in doing that sixth, Like what's the 828 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 3: word I'm looking for? 829 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: Consistently Consistently he's a better score. 830 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 3: Yes, but when Og is going, they level up the 831 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 3: Knicks two. So fun to watch that battle. I can't 832 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 3: wait for that one. And they're going to be on 833 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 3: each other too a majority of this series. I think, 834 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 3: all right, predictions Trey will start with you, Nick Pacers. 835 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 3: I think we know where we're going because you said 836 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 3: it a while ago, so you're sticking with it. 837 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I said it during Game two of Celtics versus Next. 838 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 2: Pacers are going to the finals. I got the Pacers 839 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 2: in six. I think they've played the best basketball of 840 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: anybody who's been in the playoffs so far. They've been 841 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 2: awesome since January. First, we're talking a lot about these 842 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: support guys for the Knicks who need to go off 843 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 2: in order for them to pull off a victory here. 844 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 2: But I'm thinking about the playoff series that Indiana has 845 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: already played. They don't care if your number one guy 846 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 2: has a great series. Giannis averaged thirty five points per 847 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 2: game against the Pacers. Donovan Mitchell averaged thirty eight points 848 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,439 Speaker 2: per game, had forty in two different games. Everybody else 849 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 2: they shut down. So I wouldn't be surprised that Brunson's 850 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 2: thirty five to forty points per game in this series. 851 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 2: With Nie Smith fighting his hardest to try and combat 852 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 2: him a little bit, I think Nismith is a huge 853 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 2: player in this series. He's probably going to be a 854 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 2: hiding spot for Jalen Brunson. He's shooting forty eight percent 855 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: from three. If the Pacers are able to shoot the 856 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: ball as well as they have so far during the playoffs, 857 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 2: they are going to be tough to beat. But this 858 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: should be an awesome matchup. I hope we get clutch 859 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 2: games in this one with Reggie Miller on the call, 860 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: and we've got two awesome clutch players in Brunts and 861 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 2: Halliburton on either side. Unfortunately, John Halliburton will have to 862 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 2: be watching on TV. But I'm going Pacers in six 863 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 2: should be an awesome series. 864 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah. 865 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 4: This Pacers team has so many weapons I'm just not 866 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 4: comfortable saying the next are going to play incredible defense 867 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 4: against this Spacers team because Tyers Halliburton has hit big shots, 868 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 4: but he hasn't been or needed to be incredibly great 869 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 4: in the postseason. His percentages have dropped off because he's 870 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 4: got so many weapons. Will the Knicks be able to 871 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 4: take all those guys down? Will they be able to 872 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 4: switch on pick and rolls? I'm not sure. We haven't 873 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 4: seen it throughout the postseeds so enough throughout the postseason 874 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 4: or the regular season. So I have the questions of 875 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,479 Speaker 4: cat at five. They throw Mitchell in that will help them, 876 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 4: but I don't think that they can do enough against 877 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 4: this Pacers team that's got some twenty eleven MAVs Championship 878 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 4: vibes where things were picked against them the playoffs. MAVs 879 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 4: were slight favors against the Blazers in round one, just 880 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 4: like the Pacers were against the Bucks in round one. 881 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: But then you go to round two. 882 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 4: For the MAVs, there were dogs against the Lakers, then 883 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 4: against the Thunder, then against the Heat Pacers. You're feeling 884 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 4: it's sort of the same thing in round two against 885 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 4: the Cavs and here against the Knicks. 886 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: We won't. 887 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 4: Predict what's gonna happen in the finals, but it feels 888 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 4: the same way. So I think Pacers just have too 889 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 4: many weapons. I'm not not comfortable enough taking the next 890 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 4: I got pacers and. 891 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 3: Six pacers and six as well. One thing that maybe 892 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 3: won't matter, we'll find out, I guess is a home 893 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 3: court advantage, because both these teams are awesome road teams. 894 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: New York twenty four and seventeen in the regular season 895 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 3: five and one through two rounds. Indiana nineteen and nine 896 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 3: on the road from like December sixth on and finished 897 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 3: four and one on the road playing Milwaukee and Cleveland 898 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 3: during these playoffs, so both really good road teams. So 899 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 3: maybe that gets us to a long series here. I 900 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 3: see everyone i've seen predict this series. I've never seen 901 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 3: somebody go in five for one of these teams. I've 902 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 3: seen a couple when we were talking about the West 903 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 3: other some people saying, you know, thunder and five or 904 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 3: maybe the Wolves overpowered them, whatever. But this one, everybody 905 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 3: I see is like six or seven. Feels like it's 906 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 3: gonna be that. I Am going to go nix and seven. 907 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 3: I love what they've gone through here in these first 908 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 3: two rounds. That Piston series definitely making them maybe a 909 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: little tougher physically mentally obviously what they did to overcome 910 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 3: the defending champs there. They got helped up with the 911 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 3: Tatum injury, but they were up through one when that happened. 912 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 3: If we're being completely honest, So would they have taken 913 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 3: one more even if Tatum's playing? I think so. So 914 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 3: I'm going Knicks in seven. Uh and maybe uh we 915 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 3: get a Madison Square Garden game seven. Again, that's what 916 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 3: they did last year and there's a lot of injuries 917 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 3: to the Knicks last year and the Knicks still got 918 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 3: it two seven. Now different teams. 919 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 2: He got smoked. 920 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 3: They got smoked in that game. That was like the 921 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 3: uh insane shooting game from the Pacers in that one. Yeah. 922 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 3: I do have a question though with this one. How 923 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 3: do you think Tyrese Haliburton trolls Knicks fans in this series? 924 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 3: Any creative ideas. 925 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 2: He's got to do the brunts and three point celebration. 926 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 3: Okay, so steal a celebration. I think he may even 927 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: he might steal out old Steve Novak double discount check 928 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 3: celebration like Baron Rodgers doing this because I say that 929 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 3: because you know we got the Halliburton brunts in w 930 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 3: W E Angle, so you got the championship belt. I 931 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 3: think he'll do that. What about this one Halliburton shows 932 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 3: up to a game dressed as Willy Wonka to get 933 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 3: Timothy shallow May's head. He would do it. 934 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 2: You think that's the key is throwing off his game. 935 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 3: I think Halliburton is crazy enough to do it. 936 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 2: He dresses like a character a lot an inspector gadget. 937 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you think you think he's just gonna ply some 938 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 4: some chocolate from his pocket and just hand something Wonka 939 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 4: great movie, underrated, but people don't talk enough about Wonka. 940 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: Okay, it's a great people. 941 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 3: Talk enough about Well. I think he's gonna do but 942 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 3: maybe even just throw the Wonka top hat on. 943 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 2: You should wear a top. 944 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 3: You can't see him coming down the tunnel. And then 945 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 3: what about you said Reggie the Call of TNT final 946 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 3: broadcast for TNT, there's it feels like there's gonna be 947 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 3: a huge shot from Haliburt and he's gonna be dapping 948 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 3: up Reggie Miller while he's on the call, and people 949 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 3: are gonna lose their ship. 950 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what the if the Pacers find 951 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 2: a way to come back from down seven with less 952 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 2: than a minute left, he's absolutely gonna do the show. 953 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 2: Of course he will do it. He wore a shirt 954 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 2: with the choke on it to approach game press conference 955 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 2: last year. 956 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. And we were wondering why didn't 957 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 3: need to do the choke when he decided to do 958 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 3: the big Ball dance. But we thought, maybe he is trying. 959 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 2: To save it. 960 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 3: He's gonna save it from masson Square Garden. 961 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: All right. 962 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 3: Other ideas, let's get the uh, you know, the team 963 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 3: stream team going here. Other ways, Haliburton might try and 964 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 3: troll the Knicks and their fan base here in this 965 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 3: series because he loves it. He loves this stuff. 966 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 967 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 4: Well, he's bringing a player, bringing a fan of his 968 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 4: to the Pacers game that was trolled by Nicks fans 969 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 4: that got hit by garbage bags outside of MSG's arena. 970 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 4: And so he said, all right, you're coming, man, You're 971 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 4: you're getting tickets. So he'll get him some high fives. 972 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 4: I'm sure he'll give him some love. 973 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 3: Oh he might come dressed as a garbage man. He might, Halbert, Yeah, 974 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 3: game one or two. He might show up dressed as 975 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 3: a garbage man. Laugh, you can't die. 976 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. 977 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 4: He'll be walking around in that wanka get up whatever 978 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 4: it is that the top hat to the soundtrack. 979 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 1: So fun, Trey. 980 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 3: What's the poll say on this one? 981 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 2: We've never had a closer poll. Fifty are picking the. 982 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 3: Well New York Knicks are pacers? 983 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 2: I guess yeah, which one? 984 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 3: Uh? Knicks? 985 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 2: No, pacers. 986 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,760 Speaker 4: Oh, Knicks are forty nine percent as Oh yeah. 987 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 3: Because it doesn't give us the doesn't give us the 988 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 3: decimals exactly. 989 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 2: It's probably like fifty point four. 990 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. So the Knicks who say just taking. 991 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 2: It No, the pace Pacers just taking up? 992 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 3: Wow, that is tight. Uh, these guys again Pacers and 993 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 3: six I'm going Knicks in seven. We did have a 994 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 3: YouTube pull up over the last couple of days. There 995 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 3: was almost nearly a five thousand boats on this thing. 996 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 3: When we got to the final four, it was who 997 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 3: do you got winning the championship? And this was cool 998 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 3: to see because again it's like semi evenly split in 999 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 3: terms of winning the whole thing. But OK, see Trey 1000 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,240 Speaker 3: taking a majority of the vote, which wasn't really surprising. 1001 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 2: I guess yeah. I mean they won sixty eight games 1002 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 2: and they just beat the best player in the world 1003 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 2: in the seven game series. I'm more interested in seeing 1004 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 2: that sixty six percent of people think that the Western 1005 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 2: Conference Finals winner is gonna win the championship, right, and 1006 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 2: I think that's probably right. 1007 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, esh our guy, Esh has Wolves 1008 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 3: in seven, so he's going against our picks of Thunder 1009 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 3: and six and then he's going Nixon six. That's the 1010 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 3: picks according to Esh. I'm going Nixon seven. But we're 1011 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 3: at the point you could predict any NBA Finals matchup 1012 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 3: and the subsequent outcome and I would be like, yep, 1013 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 3: I could see it, Like sure any one. I'd be like, 1014 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 3: oh yeah, sure, that makes sense. Yeah, it'll be awesome 1015 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 3: because it feels like like we're gonna have some great 1016 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 3: series here in the Conference finals. 1017 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely, we're in a new era, new teams, you guys. 1018 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: Feels great. 1019 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the Prime Moment of the week. 1020 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 2: Amazon Prime Moment of the Week this week goes to 1021 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 2: Carl Anthony Townes, who used some downtime before the start 1022 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: of the Conference Finals to take in a Mets Yankees 1023 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 2: baseball game and the crowd went absolutely crazy when they 1024 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 2: put Carl Anthony Towns up on the JumboTron, and then 1025 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: he stood up to show off his shirt, which features 1026 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 2: one of the characters from Side Talk NYC's legendary bing 1027 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 2: bong video from a few years back. The crowd went 1028 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 2: even more crazy. The guy's name is Jason Dantona, but 1029 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 2: he might be better known as the guy he couldn't believe 1030 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: what he saw posting on AX. The Knicks advance to 1031 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time in my life, 1032 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 2: and our all star big man is wearing my face 1033 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 2: on his shirt after sending Boston and packing legend might 1034 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 2: be the only way to unite Mets and Yankees fans. 1035 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns is your Amazon Prime Moment of the Week, and. 1036 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 3: The Prime Moment of the Week is presented by Amazon Prime. 1037 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 3: From streaming to shopping, It's on Prime. Visit ammadon Amazon 1038 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 3: dot Com slash Prime to get more out of whatever 1039 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 3: you're into. You do that again. Let's he better known 1040 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 3: as the. 1041 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 2: Guy big bond to that all right, Anthony Towns wasn't 1042 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 2: even there for the Ping Bog Timberwolf, but he probably 1043 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,240 Speaker 2: watched that video. Was like this is hilarious. 1044 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to join the Knicks. There was a've 1045 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 3: been in a lot of content. Obviously the Nick's going 1046 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 3: on another run. Here a lot of these similar videos, 1047 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 3: if not done by side talk themselves of like rocking 1048 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 3: like crazy Knicks fans and man, there's some characters. We're 1049 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 3: gonna see it firsthand. Potentially. We are headed to New 1050 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 3: York in ours. We got to get on a plane 1051 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 3: and we're going for some work meetings there at the 1052 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 3: Athletic obviously Times Building, but yeah, we're gonna be there 1053 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 3: in the city at least for Wednesday nights Game one. 1054 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 3: Will we be in the arena? TBD. 1055 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 2: I just got a great idea. Okay, you have pacers gear, 1056 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to perils. 1057 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 3: You want me to go get garbage thrown at me. 1058 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 3: I I want you to get garbage. 1059 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 2: Thrown at you on the streets so we can go 1060 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,439 Speaker 2: see game out of the Eastern Conference Final. 1061 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 3: I do have an entire Pacers hit. You could do that. 1062 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 2: You could be that guy. I mean, he was trying 1063 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 2: to get harassed, he was trying to get noticed and 1064 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 2: it worked out for him. 1065 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 3: Well, maybe it would get me tickets to Game three 1066 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 3: or four. 1067 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: I worked out perfect. 1068 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 4: I was surprised to see by those huge bags of garbage. 1069 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 4: They were so soft and gentle. You don't have to 1070 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 4: worry about a thing. It was like it was like 1071 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 4: all paper. It felt like they He didn't get knocked over. 1072 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 4: These are monstrous bags. They're like eight foot bags. He 1073 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,919 Speaker 4: just took it, no prob so he'll be fine. 1074 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 3: Thanks. All right, So we got game one in the 1075 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 3: Western Conference Finals tonight eight thirty pm Eastern. This is 1076 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 3: the Wolves versus Thunder and we already made our prediction. 1077 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 3: So big game here and we'll see. Yeah, we'll see 1078 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 3: whether okay, see's a little bit better in game one, 1079 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 3: not having that long layoff like they did between the 1080 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 3: first and second rounds. Here's the plan. We're gonna be 1081 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 3: going live tonight after this game on YouTube, flipping it 1082 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 3: into a podcast. So we'll have two podcasts for you 1083 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 3: today here on Tuesday, two podcasts from two different states. Wow, 1084 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,320 Speaker 3: because that one will be coming to you from a 1085 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 3: hotel room in New York City at around I don't 1086 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 3: know how long these take, three hours, Ballpark eleven or 1087 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 3: eleven thirty will be on. 1088 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna be a long night you better 1089 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 2: stock up on it, that's right. 1090 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we will see you from New York later tonight. 1091 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 3: Make sure you hit the notification button, make sure you subscribe, 1092 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 3: hit the light button, all that so you know when 1093 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 3: we're going live again later tonight. Podcast listeners help us 1094 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 3: out five star ratings and reviews, and yeah, keep your 1095 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 3: eye on a late night pod recapping Game one of 1096 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 3: the Western Conference Finals. All right, until then, Clipper bros. 1097 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up. 1098 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome. 1099 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, and remember show tonight. There was 1100 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 4: a rumor that we'll be staying in a third state, 1101 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 4: that our hotel is actually in New Jersey. 1102 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, that's a misinformation. 1103 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: Good grace of the day. 1104 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 3: People. Will see you later tonight.