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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast. Pot All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go fifteen Cuddy, twenty five, thirty thirty five,

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Speaker 2: The kicks block college football stunner.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, he.

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Speaker 1: Stumble the football, the lateral turn, the corner of the jide.

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Speaker 2: Can't you the Lavena cable off the field tonight?

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Speaker 4: It's not the sage on the dog in the fight,

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Speaker 4: it's the sage of the fight in the roll.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus, the new BCS.

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Speaker 2: Actually this is the last BCS. That's Brett Colin Stuckey.

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Speaker 2: We are here to talk end of the regular season,

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Speaker 2: conference championship weekend coming up up, an unstructured look at

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Speaker 2: college football. And It's true, I don't think we have

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Speaker 2: a script, we have anything to talk about, because where

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Speaker 2: would we start. All these firings, all these portal and

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Speaker 2: we're not even close. I mean, maybe Brett can handicap

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Speaker 2: me here, but I don't think we're even close to

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Speaker 2: the amount of coaching movement and player movement that we're

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Speaker 2: about to go through from now until the portal opens

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Speaker 2: up next Tuesday. Brett, where do you want to start with?

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Speaker 2: How's your phone battery these days? Is it blow ten percent?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's totally dead. This I remember today last year,

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Speaker 5: except last year it happened the Monday after the conference

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Speaker 5: championship game. So with the portal now being even bigger,

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Speaker 5: basically today has been NonStop, twenty four hours coaches, hirings, firings,

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Speaker 5: you know, the transfer portal. It's crazy. Right now, We've

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Speaker 5: got twelve current openings. As we're taping this, five spots

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Speaker 5: have been filled, most recent Auburn. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 5: we'll probably after more movements to fill the current openings,

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Speaker 5: we'll probably get close to maybe thirty new FBS coaches

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Speaker 5: going into next year.

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Speaker 2: And don't forget the Texas A and M has fired

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Speaker 2: their offensive coordinator. I don't know if we're going to

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Speaker 2: see a new brand of football. I thought Daryl Dickey

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Speaker 2: was doing exactly what Jim Bow wanted. We'll see there, Stucky,

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Speaker 2: you got any takeaways from the coaching carousel. Hugh Freeze

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Speaker 2: was hired just to beat Alabama because he's done it before.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I look, I think that there's I'll evaluate

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Speaker 4: next year next year, but I do think it's going

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Speaker 4: to cause some like corpses in Bowl season.

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Speaker 3: For example, here's well, here's a two sided one. I

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Speaker 3: do think it's a good fit with Fickle going to Wisconsin,

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Speaker 3: but I do have some questions. He started to lose

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Speaker 3: recruits lately, but win Wisconsin players wanted to keep Jim

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Speaker 3: Leonard And what's the rumor now they're going to play

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma in the bowl game.

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Speaker 4: So that's what it might look like. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if Brett hasn't confirmed that yet, but I talk about

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Speaker 4: two corpses, but I'm not sure Wisconsin wants to be

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Speaker 4: gonna coach it. Maybe they're just like one last Hurrah.

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Speaker 4: But since he I mean, since he went from maybe

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Speaker 4: playing the AC championship last year, the team's in the

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Speaker 4: collegewall playoff. Don't but I don't know where you haven't

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Speaker 4: projected your latest projections with some of these teams. I

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Speaker 4: think it creates just potential corpse scenario, especially for a

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Speaker 4: you don't get the host as championship go from college

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Speaker 4: wall playoff to what the fucking an animal.

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Speaker 2: And their quarterback? Right, I mean right, Ben Bryant's done,

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Speaker 2: Evan Prater's and for the for the for the bowl game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's We're gonna get a piece together on

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Speaker 2: I'd be looking for it Sunday morning for a Bulls

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Speaker 2: pop and it's you know, it's a buy sell hold.

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Speaker 2: It's like what Stucky does with his Mac manifesto, and

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Speaker 2: you know, anywhere you guys want to go with this,

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Speaker 2: because there's just so much going on, like from the

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Speaker 2: surprised by the Luke Fickle move now and not after

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Speaker 5: You know, not really, because you know, I think Wisconsin

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Speaker 5: not work well for Liberty against New Mexico State, I

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Speaker 5: just wonder how that impacts those teams. I would guess

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Speaker 5: But I don't know if you guys agree with that

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Speaker 2: To me, it's important if Hugh Freeze is going to

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Speaker 2: Sam Pittman said this year that Hugh Freeze is the

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Speaker 2: now they've lost day A Hunter. They're still rotating four

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, Liberty is just going to be one

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, Yeah, they look like a course and

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Speaker 4: for whatever whatever, it's Luke Fickle. This is just a

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Speaker 4: By cell whole thing. We I'll also have the running

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Speaker 4: a NonStop news flow as soon as they're starting now

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Speaker 4: I'm curious to get to your guys' thoughts on this

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Speaker 4: I think that none of the games matter this this weekend.

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Speaker 4: I know it's happened like that before, but I'm curious

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Speaker 2: I think if USC loses, they're out no matter what.

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Speaker 2: And the committee, I mean, Brett can correct me if

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong. The committee is going to focus on that

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Speaker 2: one loss versus two losses. They've never taken a two

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Speaker 4: You don't think they're going to take a three loss

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to sit here and claim

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Speaker 4: I always stay, yeah, I would stay better not get

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Speaker 2: Uh, if they get in, but uh, I mean that

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Speaker 2: much emphasis on this conference championship stuff. I'm afraid Ohio

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Speaker 2: And that's just great for TV, great for brand names

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Speaker 2: it's not great for competitiveness in my opinion, getting allowing

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Speaker 2: But I think that's what happened.

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Speaker 4: What do you think I've been yelling against about TCU

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Speaker 4: and USC all year and I mean us he's been

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Speaker 2: Before we hop into a special stumper segment where Brett

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Speaker 2: after the three of us all got our ballots earlier today.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, we don't have a comment on this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I and by the way that, yeah, I went

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Speaker 4: I would agree with with what TCU offense has done.

430
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Speaker 4: Getting Doug in there, I think is more than warranted.

431
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Speaker 2: I mean, I kind of do wish this was an

432
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: MVP vote, right instead of a quarterback driven stats driven

433
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 2: because Michigan is not in the Big Ten championship or

434
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 2: in the playoff without JJ McCarthy. But he only has

435
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 2: sixteen touchdowns to two interceptions. And Texas is not winning

436
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 2: three quarters of their game I'm sorry, sending sixty six

437
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: percent of their games this year if it's not for

438
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Speaker 2: John Robinson. I mean, he's He's every reason on offense.

439
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he has cleaned up so much messes for

440
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,239
Speaker 2: Quinn viewers. I don't know if he is going to

441
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: get any better over the offseason. The Texas quarterback competition

442
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 2: the offseason is going to be a fun watch. But

443
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 2: you know, if this thing ever turns into an MVP,

444
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if a defensive player or a running

445
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: back or a wide receiver, I suppose. I mean, we

446
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: just had Devanta Smith, but it's so quarterback heavy. We

447
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: kind of ignored all the options besides quarterback this year

448
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: and kind of landed on Caleb in the last two weeks.

449
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Speaker 4: For everybody, Yeah, I agree, the only name again, just

450
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 4: another quarterback named though, but he lost steam midway through

451
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Speaker 4: the season. But you got to give a shout out

452
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Speaker 4: to Michael Pennix. Took my money this weekend. But he

453
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Speaker 4: closed the really strong and obviously put up monster numbers.

454
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Speaker 4: But and he also had like a huge say in

455
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Speaker 4: the Pac twelve tight rice the comfortable playoffs, right, it's

456
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 4: like one at Washington State one at Oregon. So yeah,

457
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 4: he put up monster numbers as well, But it looks

458
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 4: like it's Caleb Williams Award to lose. Before you move

459
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 4: on to the next day, was speaking at quarterbacks. I

460
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Speaker 4: just I'll run through a couple of quarterbacks to injuries

461
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 4: to note for this weekend, Toledo Day, Kwon Finn has

462
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 4: been dealing with an injury. His backup Tucker Gleeson has

463
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 4: like a steel plate in his hand, looks like he

464
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 4: like put it through a tractor. So there's quarter And

465
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: then obviously they say that Curtis Rourke, who was one

466
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Speaker 4: of the best quarterbacks in the country, talk about the

467
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 4: potential a sleeper hides for the mac would be Rourke.

468
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 4: The numbers he put up, what would Ohio without him?

469
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 4: Maybe they're playing a long time and work ends up

470
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 4: playing backup looked okay in his place to get here though,

471
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Speaker 4: but perdue Michigan Aidan O'Connell is not with the team

472
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Speaker 4: right now, but he's dealing with the death of his brother.

473
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 4: Tragic story. There's heartbreaking, but that happened last week. He

474
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Speaker 4: was really emotional when they clinched the West. I think

475
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 4: he's just traveling for funeral and other family stuff. But

476
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 4: he's expected to play and practice this week as of now.

477
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Speaker 4: Just away with the team for the next day or two.

478
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Speaker 4: Let's see Coastal Carolina. Grayson McCall. I don't know. I mean,

479
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 4: I don't know. Look, there's rumors about Chobwell leading. Maybe

480
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 4: McCall will go with him. Maybe McCall goes to the draft.

481
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Speaker 4: It was a three to six week injury. This is

482
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Speaker 4: week four. They said we'll know on Wednesday. You'll know

483
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 4: by that if the line moves in that game, because

484
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Speaker 4: it would. It's obviously a major major drop from m

485
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 4: call to the backups. As you saw against jam You

486
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Speaker 4: on Saturday, Lsu Jayden Daniels got hurt late inexplicably in

487
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Speaker 4: a two point conversion. I think he's in a boot.

488
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 4: They say he's gonna be ready to go, but if

489
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 4: he's not mobile, don't really know how that's gonna go,

490
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 4: and then you see f it's worth just keeping an

491
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 4: eye on, Like I imagine they'll probably just gonna rotate

492
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Speaker 4: both again. But if I was them, I would go

493
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Speaker 4: with Plumbley the whole game after what he did to

494
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 4: too late in the first game, which is an area

495
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 4: weakness for them defending the run. But k if you

496
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 4: have any thoughts on Daniels and like what what you know?

497
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Speaker 4: It sounds like he's gonna play. He's got a boot,

498
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 4: it's out of high ankle sprain. But if he can't

499
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Speaker 4: really move around, you know, and his mobility is limited,

500
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 4: that's not that's not a great sign ahead of the

501
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 4: game against Georgia.

502
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting what you do with him. Like, if

503
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: he physically can't go, you're gonna get Garrett mess Meyer,

504
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: who's got a cannon of an arm, but he's got

505
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: a little Brett Farvan him. He'll throw from any angle

506
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: across his body. He'll do anything he can. But Jade

507
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: and Daniel's injury was a pretty rough and he was

508
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: in a Yeah, he was in a boot yesterday, so

509
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 2: we'll see how that progresses. But at a minimum, this

510
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: should limit his zone read game which is crucial against

511
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: that Georgia front seven, Absolutely crucial because if they show

512
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: in the first series, if Jade Daniels shows that he

513
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: can't absolutely you know, pull it in and take off

514
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: left or right, the game's over. The game's completely over.

515
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 2: So we'll see I mean, I suspect that George is

516
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: going to put the heat on him right away to

517
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: see if he can get out of that pocket. But

518
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the reasons you're seeing a

519
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 2: little bit of over money. I think you're seeing some

520
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: you're seeing some Georgia money just continue to pile in.

521
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Speaker 2: I would I would think that it stops at about

522
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: twenty and a half twenty before you get some buyback

523
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 2: on LSU. But as far as that total goes, you know,

524
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: if Jad and Daniels can't run the zone read this

525
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: becomes an absolute passing game and a few extra possessions,

526
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Speaker 2: especially if nust.

527
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Speaker 4: Meyer's in there. Yeah he might, he just might not go.

528
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Speaker 4: It might just be smoke screened for Georgia to have

529
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Speaker 4: to prepare for both quarterbacks. But yeah, it's hard to

530
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: imagine that'll be a He'll go and be one hundred

531
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Speaker 4: percent healthy, and if he doesn't have his life, not

532
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 4: only for the zone Ridgate just like buying time like's,

533
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 4: it'll completely hamper the LSU offense. But yeah, those are

534
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 4: some of the injuries worth watching this week.

535
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Speaker 5: Hey, I have I have a quick question for you guys. So,

536
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 5: with the opt outs even bigger now than they've been

537
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 5: in past years, you know several quarterbacks that personally, this

538
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 5: is I'm not reporting this, it's just my opinion. I'm

539
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 5: going to list you five quarterbacks. I don't know if

540
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 5: any of these five will play in the bowl games.

541
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Speaker 5: Tell me what you think dt R for UCLA, Spencer

542
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 5: Sanders Oklahoma State, kJ Jefferson, Colin Toggs, Will Levis at Kentucky,

543
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Speaker 5: and CJ. Stroud at Ohio State. So Brett asks these

544
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 5: when these bat real quick, when these balls come out

545
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 5: and these teams are in these bowls, do you automatically

546
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 5: go against them on the opening number thinking that they're

547
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 5: not kind of their quarterback in the ball game.

548
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do, because it's not if they're actually going

549
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: to play or not. It's what the public perception and

550
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: the betting public is going to do, and those people

551
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: to get in early. It doesn't matter if it's Spencer

552
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: Sanders or kJ Jefferson, which I laughed at that because

553
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 2: you have Arkansas and Oklahoma State and the Texas Bowl

554
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: that would be a dud of a bull without those guys.

555
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: We know that the number on open is going to move,

556
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: and that's a big part of this by sell Hoole

557
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: piece that I'm putting out there. I'm essentially dictating like

558
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: who the public in the market is going to sell

559
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: and who they're going to buy. And quarterbacks not being there,

560
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: interim coaches being there and quarterbacks not being there gets

561
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: sold down the market all the time. And it's really

562
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: interesting you brought up kJ Jefferson because Arkansas has got

563
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: all kinds of issues going on. I think some of

564
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: the problems that I try to put my finger on

565
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: it with Stucky on all the podcasts here and now

566
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: things are starting to come out. The video got released

567
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: of Miles Slusher and Brown of what the police, the

568
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: Fable police did, like it was asinine. It was ridiculous

569
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: how that whole thing played out. And there is a

570
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: sense and a feeling in the razorback locker room right

571
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: now that the coaches did not have their back. And

572
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: that's really interesting because one of the players this year

573
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: had an arrest worn out for him. So there's a

574
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: lot going on with the Razorbacks and I just wouldn't

575
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: be surprised if kJ said that's it and Malie Hornsby

576
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 2: entering the portal today. I don't know what bull we're

577
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: gonna end up in, but it could be uh, it

578
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: could be severely bad, but stuck. Do you agree with me?

579
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: Like if quarterbacks, if brand name quarterbacks for their programs

580
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: are out, that's a seller in the market.

581
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Speaker 4: When the early Bowl lines come out, Oh yeah, for sure,

582
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: big signal.

583
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Speaker 5: Because I think, do you guys think any of those

584
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 5: five play?

585
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: I feel that Spencer Sanders and here's why, and I'll

586
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: spoiler alert Washington is going to be a bye team.

587
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: And the reason Washington is a buy team because Michael

588
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: Pennix came out and said, oh yeah, I'm absolutely playing

589
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: in the Bowl because I've never played in the Bowl.

590
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: And when you get that kind of leadership from a quarterback,

591
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: the rest of the team usually follows. I feel as

592
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: if Spencer Sanders, who was inserting himself and taking himself

593
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: out due to injury, I feel that he would play

594
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: for Oklahoma State. kJ, on the other hand, I could

595
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 2: see opting out Treylon Burks did last year. kJ supported it.

596
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: I could see kJ going down the same path of

597
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: opting out of the bowl game. Who are who are

598
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: the who are the Olans?

599
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: Brent?

600
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

601
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Speaker 5: I loves uh d t R in U c l A.

602
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: I love it, So I don't see I don't see

603
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 4: loves playing. Yeah, I mean he's he's he's still projecting.

604
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 4: You only could you only could hurt his stock even more.

605
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 4: I don't know how much more. But they still says

606
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: the first time draft pick, what do you Kentucky's go

607
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 4: to some meaningless bowl beat c J.

608
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 5: Stroud not not in the playoff.

609
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 4: I don't think, yeah, any any No, I doubt he

610
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 4: would play.

611
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: Same with Bryce Young, he was upset.

612
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 5: C J. Stroud was upset with ra I forgot about

613
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 5: Bryce Young. That's a great.

614
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's probably out DTR. I could see. I could

615
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: see plying. But yeah, I could.

616
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: See him and Chi came in him and Chip came

617
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: in at the same time. He has such a huge

618
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: dedication to Chip though, And yeah, that's one reason I

619
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: could see the DTR would be playing. But back to

620
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: c J. Stroud, like he had to bite his lip.

621
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Speaker 2: He was not happy with some of the play calling.

622
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't think the Ohio State fans are happy to

623
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: play calling and the number of punts you're doing in

624
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: Michigan territory. I mean CJ. I mean, I don't say

625
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: suspect Jackson Smith Jick. But I'm sure he's going to

626
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: go into the you know, sure he's going to be done.

627
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: There is a huge list of Ohio State players that

628
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: could opt out. You know, their offensive Dewan Jones, Paris

629
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: Johnson Junior on the offensive line. Does CJ. Stroud want

630
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: to play in a Bowl? Or two of his offensive

631
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: linemen have declared for the NFL Draft, Probably not Climson

632
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: defensive line the same way, right Murphy Brian Berres. I

633
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: expect them to opt out too. Why if you want

634
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 2: to go play in a New Year six Bowl, I mean,

635
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: that doesn't compare to what you've done in your career. Yeah, okay,

636
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: with that, we're going to move on to No, it's

637
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: not the sources stumper. It's the stucky stumper.

638
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 4: It may sound easy, but it will test your head

639
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 4: and your mind and your brain too. There I go.

640
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: I don't claim to be No. Thirty six A now.

641
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: So Brett didn't even give me a chance to make

642
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: up my loss to Stucky. He's already awarded Stucky. So

643
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Speaker 2: what we're gonna do here is Stucky's got some trivia

644
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: for us, And now Brett and I are going to

645
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: go head to head, which is a precursor to all

646
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: the golfing we're going to do at the Fiesta and

647
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl. When I will, I will have a

648
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: plaque made for me when I bury bread on the golf.

649
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 5: All right, put that on your tombstone.

650
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 4: There are five answers to this trivia question, So the

651
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 4: first one to get the three we will declared the winner.

652
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: And eventually I'll give hints as needed, all right. In

653
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety, Nebraska became the last team to finish a

654
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 4: second straight perfect season in FBS. They were the last

655
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: team to do it two years back to back. Since then,

656
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 4: there have been five teams that have came oh so close,

657
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 4: but they lost their final game in the second season

658
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: trying to accomplish that task. Three of them were in

659
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: the National Championship, two of them were not. For what

660
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 4: it's worth, name those five teams. The first ten is

661
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: they I said ninet niney flicks last time. These are

662
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 4: all since two thousand, Colin, you start bumps. It is correct.

663
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen, they lost in the National Championship seeking their

664
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: back to back perfect seasons.

665
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 5: Right, that's not a good start. That wasn't even on

666
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 5: my list.

667
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: Florida, Florida is incorrect. Miami Miami is correct. Two thousand

668
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: and two, they lost the National Championship.

669
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Speaker 2: Thank you to the Maurice Clarette Special on.

670
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 4: ESPN, going for their second straight titles. Colin s two,

671
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 4: Brett is none. There's three left. Only one of the

672
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: three lost that game in the National Championship. The other

673
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: two were not in National championships. Rrett Nebraska Nebraska is incorrect.

674
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: They were the last team to do it in nineteen

675
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: ninety five. But that is not correct, Colin.

676
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: I feel as if Florida's back to back the first

677
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: year they beat Ohio State, and that might be its

678
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: Ohio State.

679
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 4: That is incorrect. Still onto nothing another clue for you,

680
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 4: So I told you. As I mentioned, only one of

681
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: the teams left lost their at their second chance in

682
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 4: the national title. One of the teams also left is

683
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: not a Power five team. Usc Seat is correct. Two

684
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 4: thousand and five. They lost in the national title to

685
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 4: Texas and that thriller going for their second straight undefeated year.

686
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: All right, So Colin, we have two left. One of

687
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 4: them's group of five. One of them is Power five.

688
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 4: Both of these teams when they lost, neither was in

689
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: the national title.

690
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a monster monster monster wager on LSU

691
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: beat in Central Florida.

692
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 4: That is correct. Central Florida two thousand and eighteen lost

693
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: to LSU. What was that spread that?

694
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: It was seven and a half?

695
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 4: Coach O Yeah, yeah.

696
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: And Dariel Mack I remember, was the running back for

697
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: UC Yeah, it was.

698
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: It was a great game, all right, Brett, See if

699
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 4: you can make it respectable. There's one other team left.

700
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: They didn't lose in a national title, but they had

701
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 4: their perfect season, their second straight perfect season, ruin in

702
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: their last game of the year. It is a power five.

703
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 5: Team, Florida State.

704
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 4: That is correct. Well done? All right, Colin wins three

705
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 4: to two. You get your see, so you you get

706
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 4: to win this year?

707
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: What do I get, youse?

708
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll send you something. I'm gonna look around and

709
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: I'll send you a good college football related gift. But yeah,

710
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: Florida State, who do they lose to Oregon.

711
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 5: That James Jamis had the famous falling backwards play in

712
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 5: the Rose Bowl.

713
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, that would have been because twenty fourteen, Yeah,

714
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 4: they lost to the Yeah, they lost to Oregon like six,

715
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 4: like sixty something. They got blown out. I believe fifty

716
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 4: nine to twenty they lost. Holy moly, all right, good stuff, Colin,

717
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 4: you win the stucky Stumper. I will find a prize

718
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: to send you. I believe we have one one funnel

719
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 4: order business at it. Yeah, we do.

720
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: It's gonna be uh one for the road. And we

721
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: have won twice as many as we have this year

722
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: on taking these early bets in the week. So to

723
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: close out the new BCS for the year of twenty

724
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 2: twenty two, I will go ahead and start. I'm gonna

725
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: do the ACC Championship over sixty three and a half.

726
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 2: I was sucking and I will cover this in depth

727
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 2: on the podcast and Thursday. Absolutely no way either these

728
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: secondaries or stopped stopping these passing attacks. Should find a

729
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: heavily motivated Clemson team. I would think before everybody departs

730
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: after this game. So I'll go over sixty three and

731
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: a half. I'm not sure where it's gonna stop.

732
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go over North Texas UTSA again be able

733
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: to talk about all the conference final games on our

734
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 4: podcast later this week. This game was UTSA defense, by

735
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: the way, is terrible, and they played four straight backup quarterbacks.

736
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: They would be a lot worse if they didn't play

737
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: like Lyddy the Rice back up their defense. I mean

738
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 4: they get a three on dreards pass into army, which

739
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: hasn't been done since two thousand and eight when they

740
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 4: weren't even running the option. This is this defense is

741
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 4: really bad. North Texas defense also isn't great. UTSA should

742
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 4: be able to score when they played earlier this year.

743
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 4: The game did go under, but the total was seventy three.

744
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: It was somehow six to three at the half. I

745
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 4: don't know how. There was a bunch of like sacks

746
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 4: that ruined drives and turnovers, and then there was forty

747
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 4: forty nine points scored in the second half, nine in

748
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 4: the first half forty nine and the second half there

749
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: was no trouble moving the ball. I think this total

750
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: is too low. Indoor track no concern for whether. I

751
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 4: don't see why either team can't march up and down

752
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 4: the field similar to the second half that we saw

753
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: between them, So yeah, give me the over in the

754
00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 4: Conference USA Final, which it's always in a watch.

755
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, similar theme as you guys. Uh, the SEC

756
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 5: known as the greatest defensive conference on the planet most years,

757
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 5: but the SEC title games have gone over and I'm

758
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 5: gonna stick with that trend going over. It's only fifty

759
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 5: one Georgia and LSU, And yeah, George has been an

760
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 5: under team at least the first half of the season.

761
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 5: Six of their first seven were under. But we get

762
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 5: to the end of the season you see him scoring

763
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 5: a lot more what they obviously Georgia Tech. And then

764
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 5: you've got an LSU team that when they've got into

765
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 5: some of these shootouts Florida, Ole Miss they gave up

766
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 5: forty to Tennessee, they gave up thirty eight the Texas

767
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 5: A and m Jesus. And then as far as the

768
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 5: SEC title game, three of the last four have gone

769
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 5: over sixty three. You've had two that hit seventy in

770
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 5: the past eight years. That's just that atmosphere, if you

771
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 5: guys have never been, is incredible. It is non stop

772
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 5: chaos from the opening kick and nobody's gonna sit on it.

773
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 5: They're gonna run it up if they can. And so

774
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 5: we got a low total there, I'll go over fifty

775
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 5: one Georgia LSU.

776
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

777
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 4: The only thing I'd worry about there is just the

778
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 4: health of uh Daniel's a quarterback. But you bring up

779
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 4: a good point also with the MAC too, you have

780
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 4: these conference championship games that you know, they're indoors, no weather,

781
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 4: fast track, so at times, you know, the you can

782
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 4: find totals that are a little bit deflated. You know,

783
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: in the MAC you see it a lot like especially

784
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 4: the weather you play like in weather games outdoors and

785
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: like high school stadiums, and all of a sudden you

786
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 4: go to Ford Field and there's there's gonna be no win,

787
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: there's no weather, and then it's it's a really fast

788
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 4: track for SEC athletes. We can we talk about that

789
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 4: every year, and you know the college ball playoff is

790
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 4: the same way. But uh yeah, I don't hate it.

791
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: You just have to. I just if Daniels has to

792
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 4: just be a little mobile or you gotta get Nutmeyer

793
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: and they're firing, who might throw some touchdowns and throw

794
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 4: some pick sixes which are both gonna help the total.

795
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, Hey, guys, since I didn't I didn't have

796
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 5: a question this week. I want to make up for that. Stucky,

797
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 5: I got one question for you, and then Colin, you

798
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 5: have to answer his question next Saturday. Is Army Navy? Stucky,

799
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 5: what's the total projected to be? And Colin are you

800
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 5: taking it over?

801
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 4: Well? My answer is easy. I projected at thirty three

802
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 4: every single year. I don't doesn't matter what happens there.

803
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 4: Guess what the line. I think the line is thirty

804
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 4: three and a half. Let's see, is there a total

805
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 4: out here? Thirty three and a half. They're getting closer,

806
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: They're getting warmer. Cole's gonna go over that.

807
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna have I mean full transparency here.

808
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: I'm staring at all my projections, which boy to our

809
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 2: listeners love those for the rest of the year. I've

810
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: got the game at I don't know how this is.

811
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: I've got the game as a pick and I've got

812
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 2: the total at twenty two. So and like I've said before,

813
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: it's just a mathematic equation on pace success rate and

814
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: what you do when you have scoring opportunities, and that

815
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: came to twenty two. Usually that number is spot on

816
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: its twenty two. I don't know if I can go

817
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: over with that projection. I said that all year is

818
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: gonna go over. I don't know if I can when

819
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: the spreadsheet, my master spreadsheet of formulas tells me twenty two,

820
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: I'm not sure in good faith I can go over

821
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 2: in this game.

822
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 4: Wow, it's under under nothing. I said, I'll play over

823
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 4: once it gets to twenty seven and a half, then

824
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 4: I'd play over. Yeah, but we'll we'll see what Colin does.

825
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 4: He might just get tempted.

826
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: Do you know what I want to play?

827
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 4: Right before kick?

828
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: You know what I want to play? I want to

829
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: play props. I want to play props on the fullback

830
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: rushing yards over. Yeah, that's what I want to play.

831
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: Love it, fullback dive. All right, that's gonna do it

832
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 2: for us the new BCS. Thank you to Stucky, Thank

833
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 2: you to Brett. That's gonna wrap for us this season.

834
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: Stucky and I will be back on Thursday. We'll catch

835
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: you everything this weekend. I'm sure we'll kind of up

836
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: one for the Bulls. We have tons of live shows

837
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: coming up. You can catch the three of us on

838
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: the BBOC Live Show for Conference Championships on Saturday, ten

839
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: thirty Eastern. Until then, we'll catch you, then cheers,