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Speaker 2: I feel like in this day and age, if you

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Speaker 2: can't do this enough. I do like to think as

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Speaker 2: a society, we're we're more willing to say, okay, let's

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Speaker 2: that Nirvana did cancel you know, shows and whatnot when

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Speaker 2: if Kurt was having issues. But I like to think

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Taking a Walk Podcast

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Speaker 1: with Buzznight. If you love this podcast, please share it

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Speaker 1: with your friends. Also, please check out our companion podcast,

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Speaker 1: Music Saved Me, hosted by Lynn Hoffman. February twentieth mark's

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Speaker 1: the birthday of Kurt Cobain, talented and troubled frontman for

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Speaker 1: the iconic band Nirvana, and today Buzz welcomes Kelly Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: author of the new book on Kirt called Forever in Bloom,

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Speaker 1: which redefines how we remember Kurt beyond the cliches of

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Speaker 1: a torture artist, showcasing him as a deeply empathetic person.

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Speaker 1: Passionate about social justice and so much more. Here's Buzz

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Speaker 1: Night and author Kelly Caitlin on taking a Walk.

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Speaker 3: So, Kelly, since this podcast is called taking a Walk

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Speaker 3: and the subject is Kurt Cobain, where if you had

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to take a walk with Kurt Cobain, would

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Speaker 3: you like to take a walk with him?

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Speaker 2: So we live in a pretty rural area and there's

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Speaker 2: my family and I and I kind of like to

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Speaker 2: do a lot of, you know, reflecting. When I'm kind

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Speaker 2: It's a very pretty scenic lake. It's completely away from

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Speaker 3: I'm a little surprised at your answer. We'll get into

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Speaker 3: there's no writer wrong answer to that. Question, But Kelly,

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Speaker 3: what drove you to write Kurt Cobain Forever in Bloom

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Speaker 3: available with the folks at Genius Book Publishing.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple reasons for it. I never set out

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Speaker 2: where I always knew I wanted to be an author.

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Speaker 2: I am a writer. I do content writing for different

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Speaker 2: I like doing this. I enjoy writing as much as

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Speaker 2: But basically one I had a family member, Walter, who

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Speaker 2: died by suicide in twenty seventeen, and he loved Nirvana.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't why I chose to write about Kurt Cobain.

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Speaker 2: It was one day during the pandemic and I was

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Speaker 2: I would never want somebody to remember him solely for

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Speaker 2: And to me, me knowing that a lot of young

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Speaker 3: It's wonderful that you took this on. We also produce

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Speaker 3: So you sought to talk to an interesting group of people,

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Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely so. Steve Albani did produce nirvanas in Utero,

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Speaker 2: And Steve and his wife selflessly took it upon themselves

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Speaker 2: they have this letters to Santa Charity. I think this

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Speaker 2: no strings attached. And Steve Albini was part of that

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Speaker 3: Great story. Now that's one of the charities I know

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Speaker 3: I love the story of how you took being a writer,

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Speaker 3: I gotta go. So in closing, can you give some

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to spread it out. I know it's

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Speaker 3: also bravo for the book Forever in Bloom Kurt Cobain,

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Speaker 3: sure wherever else you can get books Amazon and of course,

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Speaker 3: and congrats on it, and thanks for thank you shining

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