1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: with her radio it is Bachelor in Paradise time. This 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: is the almost nemest podcast with my beautiful co host Ashley. 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: Like Ken Eddie Ashley, it's going on, girl, Ben, I 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: don't like being called beautiful these days. I could go 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: on a whole tangent explain is it if? Does it 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: offend you? Because I know Jared thinks so and I 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: you are, yes, you know there's there's beauty Ashley, not 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: only in what you are going through, because you are 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: forming a child inside of you, so that in itself 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: is beautiful, then you're obviously a beautiful pregnant I don't 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: know if you're not muggy, Yes you're like you're yes 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: you are. You can't listen. This is this is what 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: annoys me. Okay, I feel attractive. I feel beautiful, not 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: in a conceited hopefully that doesn't come across conceited when 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm not pregnant. Okay. And women glow right when they're 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: in love and they're feeling good inside and out. I 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: do not feel good side, good inside or out, So 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: therefore I am not glowing. And because there's this thing 20 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: there's this expectation that women are supposed to be thriving 21 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: when they're growing a kid. I'm actually very annoyed at 22 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: this glow term or this idea that people are supposed 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: to call women. He's just like they're supposed to call 24 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: women beautiful when they're carrying a child, because maybe some do, 25 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: because some certainly do, but I do not. And I 26 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: almost feel annoyed when people compliment me right now because 27 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: they're trying to be nice. They're trying to say, like, 28 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: oh my god, because what's happening inside you? Um, there's 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: like you're beautiful right now. I'm like, no, I'm I 30 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: know I'm most beautiful when I'm not like this, because 31 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: I feel better? Can I can I challenge you for 32 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: a second? Sure, But like I know that you're going 33 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: to say, like if you're gonna say this is a 34 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: physical thing versus like a spiritual thing, that's not correct 35 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: either because because because I'm talking about my insides, because 36 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: if I don't feel good on my insides, I don't 37 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: even care what I look like on the outside, that 38 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: glow is not real. Well, I'm not talking about the glow. No, 39 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: there's no such thing for me, and I want people 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: to be honest because actually I feel like people lie 41 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: because they're saying what they think they're gonna they're supposed 42 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: to say right now, and that's what annoys me. Yeah, 43 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't feel any issue I have. I have told 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: you when I think you're being crazy, I've told you 45 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: when I think you're being overly emotional. I don't have 46 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: any problem being like Ashley. I actually think at some 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: point during this, at the very beginnings, like yeah, this 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: looks rough, Like yeah, but what if and this isn't 49 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: a physical verse, like what if there's beauty in the struggle? 50 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: Like what if? What if? What if the whole idea 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: that like, you are a human who desires to feel great, 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: but yet are is attempting to go through like is 53 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: going through a really difficult hard season where you probably 54 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: at some point in your life, we're expecting that this 55 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: pregnancy thing would be that glow. I knew it wouldn't 56 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: be for me, I'll be honest, But what if there's 57 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: beauty in the struggle of it? Like what if they 58 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: believe in that? Okay, So, like when I sit here 59 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: on this side looking at you, going you know what, 60 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: you still show up every week, Like there's beauty in that, 61 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: Like there's beauty and the fact that like you are 62 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: consistently sick, that there's no hiding it, that you haven't 63 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: tried to hide it, that you don't feel awesome, yet 64 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: you still show up, you still talk about this crazy 65 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: experience that we're watching on television. You still sit here 66 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: and you're kind to me, and I've seen you be 67 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: fairly kind to Jared Um Like what if there is 68 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: beauty and that I totally agree with that, But that 69 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: does not mean that I'm like I'm I believe in 70 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: beauty of the struggle. It does not mean that I 71 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: I think, like in the classic sense of the word, 72 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: that is just not what I'm feeling right now. And 73 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of expectation on people, like 74 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: there's like a warped thing. I think it's all about 75 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: like this annoyance that I have about people not being 76 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: always honest about the struggles of pregnancy. That really hits 77 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: me when it comes to like saying that like I'm 78 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: glowing or and beautiful right now, because it's like just 79 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: that is not like how I feel in my soul. 80 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: And I think it's really annoying that there's like this 81 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: expectation that people either need to say it or feel it, 82 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: because I think it's fine to not feel it and 83 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: to not and to like not get to that like 84 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: glowy happy place until the baby is here or maybe 85 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: maybe that won't even happen then yet. But but but 86 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: I totally appreciate you saying what you say because I 87 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: do agree with their being like a strength to it. 88 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: But I think that's a better word, so what would be? 89 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: But I'm so sorry to unload on you. I was 90 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: just thinking about this earlier. I'm glad you did. I'd 91 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: ever said you're glowing, Like you're definitely not glowing, thank you. Yeah, 92 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: well you're not, but there I do find it. Like 93 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: I was just telling Justice the other day, like and 94 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: and then Becka Koufern had reached out to me and 95 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: she's like, how is Ashley doing. I was like, I 96 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: think I could read my exact Texas said she's having 97 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: a really hard time with pregnancy, but she's a trooper. 98 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: And like for me, like that is really like the 99 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: only thing I would put on you, Like I'm not 100 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: going to expect you to show up here and be 101 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: the beautiful ash like an Eddie that like stuns the 102 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: world with your like outward appearance. In fact, I actually 103 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: have news for you that won't last forever anyways, like 104 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 1: like that's gonna go. But like at all points in life, 105 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: we can celebrate the fact that like you're still showing 106 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: up and like it's beautiful and thank you. That should 107 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: be celebrated, that should be talked about. I would hate 108 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: it if in your like moments here where you're like 109 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't feel this way, if people stopped telling you 110 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: how awesome you are and how much you're seen in 111 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: your struggle to still be here or be wherever you're at, 112 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: because you haven't stopped working, like, in fact, your life 113 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: is probably busier than ever, yet at the same time 114 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: you're taking like ten minutes potty breaks that don't require 115 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: you to use anything. But like, um, I appreciate you 116 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: saying that. Um. I definitely. Actually that's like another guilt 117 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: thing that I have. I definitely have not worked hard 118 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: the past two months and as somebody like that's like 119 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: also something that I think it was Jade who was 120 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: telling me about it. I'm not sure, but it's like 121 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: we put so much value, like of our worth into 122 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: like how much we're like accomplishing in money that we're making, 123 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: and like just like effort that we're putting over the 124 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: computer and just like how many hours are you like 125 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: racking up each day, Like what's your time stamp, you 126 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: know on your little like work card. And that's how 127 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: we value ourselves so much, and that can be so wrong, 128 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: especially now when like you do I do. I'm like 129 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm creating a human and like that is a pretty 130 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: tough job as it is, so that yeah, I like that, 131 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: you know. A few weeks ago, actually like I had 132 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: that breakdown myself. You knew about this, Like I'm I'm 133 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: less active than ever um or at least in the 134 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: last five years. Like I'm less busy, there's less things 135 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: on my calendars, there's less things, and like it was 136 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: a it was and that was kind of the whole 137 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: headline that came out, like I was having a breakdown. 138 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: I still don't feel like I was having a breakdown 139 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: as much as I was having a breakthrough to where 140 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: I was like divorcing from the identity of Hey, this 141 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: is what I do for living, this is how I work, 142 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: this is how much time I put into it. Two 143 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: more of the hey, like life's looking different out and 144 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: how do I accept that or how do I move 145 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: into this season? And so I think there is that 146 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: transition phase that you and I've always talked about. I 147 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: remember years ago on this podcast, we had a conversation 148 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: where you said something incredibly impactful to me. You said, 149 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm worried that once I like sometimes when I close 150 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: my eyes, I'm worried that when I open them back up, 151 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: there won't be an email about this new job or 152 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: this new opportunity. Like it scares me. And it scared 153 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: me too, I just wasn't ready to admit it. And 154 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: now I feel like I'm feeling it and you maybe too. 155 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: But like it's good at a lot of levels. It's healthy, 156 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: it's a switch, it's still it's still there's still a 157 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: lot of like joy in it. It's just different, yeah, totally. 158 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean I think like you end up one thousand 159 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: percent of finding a place to put that energy, and 160 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: that time is gonna get filled before you know it. 161 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: I think there's there's always those lulls that you're like, 162 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: oh my own, what am I doing? Especially like you 163 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: work for yourself. For me, it's it's definitely just been 164 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: like a I've been doing the bear Men well, Like 165 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: people like will email me and I'll just be like, oh, 166 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: if it's not urging, I'm just not getting back to 167 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: them until like, you know, this magical day that I 168 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: wake up and I feel better. Maybe we should talk 169 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: about this more in the podcast in the next couple 170 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: of months, Like maybe we should uh dive into this 171 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: with not only you and I, but with others, because 172 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people right now transitioning out 173 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: of a whole season where the world was affected into 174 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: this new season where their eyes are open, and maybe 175 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: they're working from home and maybe they found new efficiencias 176 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: in life or maybe things got pulled away from that 177 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: they never expected. It feels like maybe a conversation that 178 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: a lot of us could relate to, and it would 179 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: be really interesting to hear it from that world. Like 180 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: you just said that people that work for themselves, Um, 181 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: you know I another day. Actually you'll laugh at this 182 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: because it just drives you crazy too. But I had somebody, 183 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: uh randomly at a conference I was at, go, you know, 184 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: how is it to be on like the show and 185 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: then walk out of it and have all this money 186 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: and all this fame and I'm like time out one. 187 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: The fame is very fleeting to let's not think we 188 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: have all this money, like it just doesn't happen that way. 189 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: It's not you don't go on the Bachelor to come 190 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: off and have this like secure life where you're like, 191 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: I'll never have to make money like you. It's a 192 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: grind and it's not given. And anybody that thinks that 193 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: you make a lot of money doing this show, let 194 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: me tell you now, Like contractually I can't tell you 195 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: how much we make, but let me tell you it 196 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: is definitely not enough to stop on. Nor is it 197 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: even enough to take a break on. Yes, you definitely 198 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: like taking a break is so scary whenever, like I 199 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: feel like just seeing saying no to one opportunity or 200 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: another because it seems inconvenient at the moment. You're like, oh, 201 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: but that could be the last one, or if like 202 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: that could start a trend, or then somebody can tell 203 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: somebody something else. I will tell you that anybody who 204 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: does have money because of the notoriety that they got 205 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: from the show has worked, has worked to keep that 206 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: money and to stay relevant, and that is you know, 207 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: a big frustration. I think for a lot of us 208 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: who just like get those comments every now and then 209 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: that are like, do you have a real job? What 210 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: do you do for work? I'm like, if I didn't 211 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: have a job, I wouldn't be like at all remembered 212 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: from this franchise right now? Do you know what I mean? Now? 213 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: Look at the Rachel Lindsay is the world the use 214 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: the Jojo Fletchers. Caitlin like, Yeah, they've gotten like their 215 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: lives are a lot looking a lot different now, but 216 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: it's also taking a lot of time, a lot of 217 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: time away from family well um, and also it kind 218 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: of transitions in the Bachelor Paradise. Bachelor Paradise is not 219 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: one that you go on to to make money, but 220 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: it is an experience that brings a lot of memory 221 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: stories and there's always a following that comes from it. 222 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: This year's Bachelor and Paradise, I believe Ashley is one 223 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: that some great love stories are being formed already, someone 224 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: that will remember and talk about for years to come, 225 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: like the You and Jared's and like the Jaden Tanners. 226 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: There's some great couples forming. We're gonna talk about it 227 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: here on this part Guest today, we're gonna have tin 228 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: Ley on to help break it down with us. It's 229 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm just quick thoughts. I'm enjoying this season. It's there's 230 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: some slow parts. I would say an episode two, there 231 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: are some definitely slow parts. I was like, okay, can 232 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: we pick this up a bit. I don't know what's 233 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: going on. I pressed pause a few more times. It 234 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: was very engrossed the first episode. This this episode, I 235 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: was like, okay, I can break a tay break. I 236 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: can take a break. But it's it's good, it's healthy. 237 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: It's there's some like cool stuff happening. Um. I actually 238 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: for the first time ever, and we'll move on here 239 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: in the second I'm seeing the gaming side of this 240 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: more than ever, like the uh, like people strategizing and 241 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: game planning this season more than ever. I used to 242 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: kind of be like, I'll see if anybody Uh. There's 243 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: always been the hey, let me go talk to somebody, 244 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: see if I can get a rose next week idea, 245 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: but like there was more like strategy right now going on. 246 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: Then I've then I've remembered, especially this early on in 247 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: the in the season. HM, maybe let's get into it 248 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: with Tinley. We'll catch up on her life and then 249 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: we will recap the episode with her. She was on 250 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: my season A Bachelor in Paradise too. She had a 251 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: pretty strong relationship down there, but of course that was 252 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: a very long time ago and both have moved on, 253 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: had babies and marriages. Um, but we will do that 254 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: right after the break. Well, one of our favorite guests 255 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: as always somebody that brightens up life in the world. Uh, 256 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,359 Speaker 1: somebody that's a perfect guest, I feel like for today, um, 257 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: just for her honesty and her encouragement to all of us. 258 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: But Tinley, you're here not only to break down Bachelor Paradise, 259 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: but to talk about all the cool things going on 260 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: in your life, which is many. Hello Tinley, Hi guys, 261 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Hi Tinley. Of course we love 262 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: having you here. Um. It is your baby girl, Rel's 263 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: first birthday next month. I can't believe it's been a year. 264 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you really can't believe it's been here. 265 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: I really can't. I really can't. I'm like getting very 266 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: very emotional, but I feel like I've been emotional the 267 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: whole time, like with with every month that's passed by. 268 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: So well, okay, so one thing that everyone has been 269 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: telling me, of course, and like of course I know it, 270 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: but it's like funny because you just don't know the 271 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: first time. Um, you know this is what this is 272 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: what people say. They go, I know you're feeling awful now, 273 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: but it's gonna all be worth it. And it's like, 274 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: of course, fundamentally, I know it's all gonna be worth it, 275 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: but like it's so hard to hear right now because 276 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: as a first time mom, you don't even know what 277 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: it feels like to feel that love when you finally 278 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: get to meet the baby, So like, can you do 279 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: your very best to describe what that feeling of love is? 280 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: I heard and I heard one person say, if you 281 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: realize that your heart has an attic and you never 282 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: realized it before, oh I love that cute. I think that. 283 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that really makes sense to me. Yeah, 284 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: And I feel like for those of us like you 285 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: and me who love like like kind of like that 286 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: romancing of something like an idea of whatever it, that 287 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: definitely can find a spot in your heart to um 288 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: capacity like try to find the capassity for that love. 289 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's so hard to explain. And and something 290 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: I was gonna say is it's so worth it. But 291 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: because I don't know if you remember, I was absolutely 292 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: miserable through my pregnancy. I didn't sleep. I didn't not 293 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: know this. Oh my god, wait, now I've now. I 294 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: had a flashback of me recording an early pandemic episode 295 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: in my closet, and you had just gone out of 296 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: your first try muster and you said, yeah, yeah, wow, 297 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: that's an incredible memory. But I couldn't stand. I couldn't sleep, 298 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't sit, I couldn't like I didn't get to 299 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: do any of the nesting things or I feel like 300 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: but but there were so in parts of um. Well, 301 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: what I was saying is like I was miserable. It 302 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: was painful. I wasn't sick like you. My heart goes 303 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: out to you actually like it is there, but it 304 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: is getting better. I don't want to say that I'm 305 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: like sitting here miserable. It's certainly not easy, but now 306 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm having good days and bad days, and thanks to 307 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: so Fran, I can be functional. But I look back 308 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: on that like week five through week twelve, and I 309 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, was that your bad period too? Know? 310 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: My mine hit like week uh fourteen through the end. 311 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: And then But but again I wasn't sick. I just 312 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: but I wasn't sleeping. And so anyways, my point in 313 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: saying this, and I think that it's okay and awesome 314 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: for you to be talking about it, but my point 315 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: in saying this is I was going to repeat what 316 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: everybody else has told you, like it is so worth it. 317 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: In the end, when you're holding that baby, you will 318 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: you will know a love and understand a love like 319 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: no other. And I really really don't know how to 320 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: explain it to you. Is motherhood. And this love has 321 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: surprised me and taken me for like a complete turn 322 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: of like for who I am and trying to even 323 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: understand who I am. And my mind is blown by 324 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: this love that I have for this little human. And 325 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: Taylor and I just we gush about her all day 326 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: long and all night long, um even when she she 327 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: had a really bad night last night. For the most 328 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: part she sleeps, but she's finally teething, and we just 329 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: were like, she's so good. Who wants to go holder? 330 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: So I'm just, you know, hanging there. I don't know 331 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: how to I don't know how to say anything else 332 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: that nobody else has said. I haven't been able to 333 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: find the words. I'm still I'm still searching for them 334 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: because as we come up on a year of her life, 335 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: I am my my mind is still trying to like 336 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: grasp everything that my heart feels. But I like what 337 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: somebody that that that's saying that somebody said to you 338 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: that that's so cute. Um, that is that's funny because 339 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: Shared and I talk about our dog like this, and 340 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: people are like, if you think that you're like this 341 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: with your dog, like wait till you have the baby. 342 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: And like, I'm actually scared at how obsessed we could 343 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: possibly be because like whenever Jared and I are like 344 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: out together, we talk about the dog and how obsessed 345 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: we are with her and how much we miss her, 346 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 1: and like we're like think about her belly and think 347 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: about her feet seas, and like we do like all 348 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: these things, and it's like we're gonna be so smothering. 349 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be crazy. Oh it's it's just wait for it. 350 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: It's gonna be so good. Your heart's gonna grow billion 351 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: sizes And it's it's true what they say about like 352 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: it feels like you're there's a piece of you running 353 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: around in the world on the outside and it's just 354 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: so wild, like it's I again can't find the words, 355 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: but you guys are in for the best best season 356 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: of your lives. There's gonna be moments that it's so 357 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: hard and um, but it's it's so beautiful. So hanging 358 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: there with where you're at right now because you're doing 359 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: great that you're talking about all the things though, thank you. 360 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. One of the things you just said, 361 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: I'm super interested in before we dive into um Bachelor 362 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: in Paradise. But you know, you watch what you know 363 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: you're into, which I know you've participated in. So we've 364 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: we've going to break down the whole episode with you 365 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: because you're somebody I think we'll have a really fun 366 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: perspective for us. You mentioned that you're learning a lot 367 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: about yourself during this last eleven months to twenty months. Uh, 368 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: you know even before, What are some of the things 369 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: you've learned about yourself personally? Well, I just didn't know 370 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: that I was gonna. I had always imagined that the 371 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: moment that i'd have this baby come into the world. 372 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: This is one thing, Um, I just thought that. And 373 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: it's okay if you are either of you are this 374 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: way when you have children in your arms. But like, 375 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: I've been so surprised that since Rrell came into my world, 376 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: I haven't wanted to really be without her. I actually 377 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: had to anxiousness over that. And so it's definitely been 378 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: a good test in my faith and trust in God 379 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: in just having this little human on the outside in 380 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: this world and um, being able to surrender, surrender those 381 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: feelings and emotions. Um. But I thought that I was 382 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: gonna be like back off to my workout workout classes, 383 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: like dropping her off at Grandma's all the time, and 384 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: we're not quite there and and that's okay, but and 385 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: everybody's um a little different. So I've learned that I'm 386 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: obsessed and I've learned that I've been learning a lot 387 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: about surrendering and um just there's lots of growing pains 388 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: in that side, on the emotional side of things. Um 389 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: uh yeah, it just changes changes you. I I see 390 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: myself going, wow, I am so grateful for all of 391 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: those selfish years I got to have, like even participating 392 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: in all the Bachelor's stuff and um getting to do 393 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: all the travel stuff. Like, Um, I remember once thinking, man, 394 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: I wish I had babies when I was in my 395 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: early twenties. Man, I'm so behind, but I am so 396 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: grateful for all those selfish years. I hope that's not 397 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: coming off in the wrong way, but I thought's really 398 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: just like grow in in my life and in those seasons, 399 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: and it took so much from that that now I 400 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 1: am able to be in a different place and a present, 401 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: different kind of presence with real and Taylor in my 402 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: life right now. So UM, that's kind of a little 403 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: bit around the um, the little webs of what I've 404 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: been learning. Beautiful. It is, um, and it's beautiful because 405 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we got to speak with you right after UM, 406 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 1: I don't know how to be like two months in 407 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: um and uh. Now we sit here. E loved months 408 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: in uh and uh. She had to get pulled from 409 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: your arms for this podcast, which is uh, which is great. 410 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: She was sitting on your lap when we first started 411 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: the podcast us and now she's in a different room, 412 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: been loud and uh. Yeah, I hope we have a 413 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: lot to say about this upcoming episode of Bachelor in Paradise. 414 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: But before we do, let's take a break. We come back, 415 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: We're to catch up a little bit more with Tinley 416 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna dive in to this week's episode 417 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise. Finally. UM, I'm sure everybody's asking 418 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: you this, and it's probably annoying and it's like, you know, 419 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: borderline rude sometimes. Um, but if you could, um, do 420 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: you imagine yourself with more kids in the future. What's 421 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: amazing is Yes, I talked to you about my pregnancy 422 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: and how hard it was, and during that time I 423 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: was like, well, let's make this count, you know, like 424 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't know that I could do this again, but 425 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of the right thing is I feel like, um, 426 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: that whole that whole experience has been redeemed like in 427 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: a in a sense, like I look at pictures of 428 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: myself being pregnant and going that was kind of magical, 429 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, oh, but it was also really hard. 430 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, if if we're able to roll with the 431 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: best little surprise ever, so if I've never really actually tried, 432 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: so we'll see, we'll see what when when that time 433 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: feels right, um, or if we end up with another surpriser, 434 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: if she's our only one. That's the other thing is 435 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: like I think that my heart has also been just 436 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: like loving and leaning into parenting her um as if 437 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: what if this is the only time I get to 438 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: do this, you just don't know um and being present 439 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: with her because what if I have impregnant again someday 440 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: and I'm in so much pain and that kind of 441 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 1: cuts into our time together. So I worry about that 442 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: all the time. It's just like I think that this 443 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: is difficult now, But I think about all the moms 444 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: who have kids running around and delia with. I don't 445 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: know how they do it. I know, I know they 446 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: are super humans and champs. And right now we're also 447 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: in a really cool season of like we just went 448 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: to Cabo with her and we had so much fun, 449 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: Like how would we do that with two kids? So 450 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: so we're not like rushing into its night answer, But 451 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm totally not against it, and I I love to 452 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: share the part of like I just feel like that 453 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: the idea of it has been redeemed that I could 454 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: even be dreaming of the possibility of another baby someday 455 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: because pregnancy was hard. That makes me feel better that 456 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: you like even think like that, because like I currently 457 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: think about that, like how am I going to do 458 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: this again? But so many moms are like look, I 459 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: had hypermesias and I throw the entire nine months. Then 460 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: somehow I still wanted to do it again, and so 461 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: like it's great to hear, it's great. It's really quick. 462 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: My my sister in law, Taylor's sister, Um, she was 463 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: six six six six the whole time to both her pregnancies, 464 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: and she's still I know be Anyways, I feel bad 465 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: saying was, but she sometimes still talks about having a third. 466 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that they will, So if this is 467 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: any like news to anybody, I'm not saying she's pregnant, 468 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: like she goes back and forth, and she was sick 469 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: both pregnancies and she still talks about it. So hanging there, yeah, 470 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: I know. Well I see Jad too. It's like Jad 471 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: like was super sick, like throughout sixteen weeks. You know, 472 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm about to be sixteen weeks and she just just 473 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: so like thirty days where she like throughout eight times. 474 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: It's like I had a couple of those days and 475 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: it's just like and but here she is saying like 476 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 1: I would like it. Fourth, I'm like, you're a wild 477 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: woman anyway, beautiful crazy woman, yescent Um. And then I 478 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: want to ask you, like, are you doing anything beyond 479 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: like are you doing to stay at home mom thing? 480 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: And just like kind of relishing in that, is there 481 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: any business going on or anything outside that you want 482 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: to talk about? Thanks for asking. Right now, I'm still 483 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: taking a break from my nutrition and seeing my clients 484 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: and stuff because I am loving just being one on 485 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: one with all during the season. Um So thankfully just 486 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: being able to share are the story along the way 487 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: of of her growing and what I'm learning and what 488 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: we're learning and hopefully sharing some hope through all of that, 489 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: um because it's just one of my favorite things to do, 490 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: besides sharing nutrition in fact, like that, just sharing hope 491 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: with others in all seasons of life. So that's kind 492 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: of just where we're where we're still at when you're 493 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: staying home and watching Bachelor in Paradise. Absolutely and we 494 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: this is good. It's good stuff. Guys. I was going 495 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: to ask you, do you like this season so far? 496 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: I am so I was so ready for it. I 497 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: was kind of I've got to be I know, you 498 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: guys aren't going to expect this out of me because 499 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm usually probably a little too PC, but I've been 500 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: kind of bored to the last Bachelor and Bachelorette, so 501 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise. I was so stoked that it actually 502 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: has little something and I feel like I don't know 503 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: very many people very well through it, so it's kind 504 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: of it's like watching something with a whole new lens. 505 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: Well before we dive into to it. Um, just off 506 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: the top of your head, because we're gonna break down 507 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: this week's episode. Who do you think we'll get engaged? 508 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: Do you think anybody? Do you think we'll see any 509 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: like love stories come from this? It will last? Um. 510 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that Noah and Abigail are kind of being 511 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: painted in the background, like Jade and Tanner were not 512 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: painted in the background, but like they're they're like, you 513 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: know that there's something going on, but you're not seeing 514 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: a lot of them because they hit it off, and 515 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: I think that they had I'm assuming that they had 516 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: a foundation. Not Jane Tanner didn't, um, but like that 517 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: Noah and Abigail have a little bit of a foundation. 518 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: Kind of seems like that, so I'm guessing them. And UM, 519 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that Ivan and just Sena that was 520 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: a really nice little match. So those are my I 521 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: don't know that I don't know. It's hard for me 522 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: to think of the actual reality of getting engaged, even 523 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: though I've been a part of these shows. Like now 524 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of watching it going are these people ready 525 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: for that true commitment? Is how I'm really looking at it. 526 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: I think we might get a couple. I think, um, 527 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: all right, here we go. Let's dive into this week's 528 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: episode of Bachelor in Paradise. Ashley take us away. All right, 529 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: Let's start with Demi's arrival. She came in hot. She 530 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: it was just so forward with everyone, and like with Brendon, 531 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: she was just so outrighteous and um. Then when Brendan 532 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: told her during their day that he was like not 533 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: not down to like commit to this and then he 534 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 1: was still going to date around when she got her 535 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: ego bruise and she said quote like I just got 536 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: my ego bruise, it made me like her so much 537 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: more in this environment, Like it was exactly what she needed. 538 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: She needed that humbling moment, and then all of a sudden, 539 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: it was like, okay, when or self deprecating Demi so 540 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: much better. She uh, she came in really confident. I 541 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: would say, like she almost showed up and she did 542 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: have the entrance that was expected where everybody goes, oh, 543 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: there's DIMMI like like she she could have shook up 544 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: Paradise in really any way she wanted to, because she's 545 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 1: dimmy and because of her confidence and I'm with you, 546 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: she almost went in like setting herself up to get 547 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: like hurt, like because you know she wanted to be 548 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: there and you know she was interested in finding something 549 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: and her like how she let in and kind of 550 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: how she went about it was like this could backfire quickly, 551 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: and it kind of felt like episode when it did. 552 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: I mean, she was chasing after a rose to the 553 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: very end. She didn't have any like meaningful connections. Tinley, 554 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: what's your thoughts. What I'm thinking is that she came 555 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: in rural strong in in like with with two Um. 556 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just it felt a little bit overconfident, 557 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: is what it was. It felt also like an act, right, yes, okay, 558 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: that's exactly what I was trying to put my way. 559 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: It was like she was trying to play some like 560 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: sex panther type like Jessica Rabbit role. Yes, And I 561 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: like you love the like the Demi that you can 562 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: kind of relate to on a little bit more of 563 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: a personal level of there's a little bit of like 564 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: a man, Denny, I'm feeling you. When she did get 565 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: to that point of um, not necessarily connecting with Brendan, 566 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: but I was also like, Dummi, not every I don't know. 567 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: It just took me back to the moments of like, 568 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: man doesn't like me, and it's like, that's just how 569 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: life goes. And I'm just gonna You're not gonna be 570 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: a match with everybody. And so I was sitting on 571 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: the other side of the TV just saying, like Demi, 572 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: it's okay, he's not your guy. Um. But yeah, she 573 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: came in super strong and it was a little much, 574 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: and I mean, we've gotten no Demmi outside of the show. 575 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: The Demmi that like is incredible is to that you've 576 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: watched on television, You've been like, you know, you've laughed 577 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: with she like says whatever she wants. But it's the 578 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: Demmi that's like that is vulnerable and that cracks that 579 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: like that shell open that makes us go, holy cow, 580 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: like this is are one of our favorite people that 581 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: we've ever seen on this franchise ever, because she's relatable, 582 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: she's unapologetic. She says what she's feeling and thinking, and 583 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: it was like almost like a shock to the system. 584 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: As a viewer and a fan of Demmi's when she 585 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: came down, You're like, hey, all I want you to 586 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: do is be Demmi, Like you don't have to be 587 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: anybody else, because like who we love is the one 588 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: that's like, yes, saying ridiculous things and getting involved in 589 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: stuff that was like that I never would just based 590 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: on my own fears and like lack of like confrontation skills. 591 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: And then the one that was also sitting with you 592 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: as you're like hurt in the corner of hurting with you, 593 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: and like we didn't see that. I'm hoping we see 594 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: that as episodes continue, be she is going to be 595 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: there now, and now she is sitting in a position 596 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: where I think she thrives, which is she has the rose, 597 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: so like she gets to decide who's there and who's not, 598 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: and so she gets to take a break from like 599 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: going after too now maybe investing into It's almost like 600 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: she reverted back to like who she was the first 601 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: couple of episodes of Colton season before she got to 602 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: that rone or place where it was like, remember how 603 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: she went from villain to somebody that like she was 604 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: everybody like could see themselves in a little bit. Um. 605 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: So I was just like, no, no no, no, dummy, don't 606 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: go back to that one. Don't go back to that one. 607 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: So it was nice to see, like really quickly, like 608 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: with a flip of a switch, when he kind of 609 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: denied her. It was back to where we left off 610 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: with her, that relatability and you books said that word. 611 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: I think that that relatability, and and where she starts 612 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: to just kind of speak in her own but not 613 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: with without trying so hard to be something else. That's 614 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: what it was. She's character would be watching as it continues, 615 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: because obviously she's around and she's gonna make a statement now. 616 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: There's also through this episode we begin to enter into 617 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: the Victoria pe drama, which was, um, I guess for me, 618 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: it was hard for me to follow and hard for 619 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: me to really like engage with because I just I 620 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: still don't know what was true, what wasn't true, what happened, 621 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: what's not Like I was kind of on her side, like, hey, 622 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: she was dating somebody, they broke up, and she still 623 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: went on paradise because it felt fun and at the end, 624 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: you know she's in the car and she her last 625 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 1: statement is, hey, I'm I realized that I don't need 626 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: to be looking for anything here. What I have is 627 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: back home. And it's like, well, what then are you 628 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: dating somebody? Are you not? What's going on? But it 629 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: blew up, right, I mean that was the whole thing. 630 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: Is this became like the topic of the episode. It 631 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: felt like she was a little too defensive, don't you 632 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: think that? But and I'm so bummed. I was such 633 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: a fan and I was so excited to see how 634 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: things were gonna play out for her, and I was hopeful, 635 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: um to see something happened for her. And then I 636 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: felt like what you just said? Then, like how how 637 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: she kind of said it herself. You're like, well, what 638 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: was really going on? But she came off pretty defensive, 639 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: which always leaves me into wondering what the what the 640 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: truth is and maybe going back home was the best thing. 641 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I mean I believe Tammy and Kelsey 642 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: when they were talking about that stuff, um, and they 643 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: share a dog together, they were together on Thursday. It 644 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: just seemed like a little Jedlike right, it's like you 645 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: were you were spending time with them the day before 646 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: you left. Um, And then I just thought that as 647 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: soon as she pulled James aside and was basically like, okay, um, 648 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: this is the end of the road, like I'm leaving. 649 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: That was a dead giveaway to me that she got 650 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: caught in a lie because she was like, Oh, if 651 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: I stick around, it's not going to get better for me. 652 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna continue look bad. She think that it 653 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: was not going to be brought up. But that's one 654 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: thing I love about Paradise that it can be even 655 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: turned into a little bit of like a comedic relief 656 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: because I don't know if you guys remember, but they 657 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: did almost this little drawing of I think it was 658 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: talking about like and here's her game plan, and I 659 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: don't it just it added a little bit of lightheartedness 660 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: to something that can be a big team that is 661 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: a big deal. It is. I mean, it's not surprising 662 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: on who brought it up, but it also it was 663 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: It was a wild thing to watch. I also think 664 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: as a like I get to you know, when you 665 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: get to hear from contestants on if they're choosing to 666 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: go or not. And I've had friends go on the 667 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: show even though they're dating people back home. They almost 668 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: feel like Paradise is this is just this opportunity almost 669 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: and like that they're not gonna get caught or it's 670 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: not going to catch up with them, or it's not 671 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: as serious as the big shows. Uh. And then I 672 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 1: feel like every time it comes back to bite them, 673 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: like every time it does get found it out, every 674 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: time it does get emotional. I mean for me, there's 675 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: a big moment this episode where Natasha starts crying. And 676 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: Natasha has been around the franchise, she's a host on 677 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: the franchise, this podcast. She's very like, um, I mean, 678 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: she's a veteran at this, She's very like she understands 679 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: the process. Yet there's still emotion getting pulled out of her. 680 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: And I almost would think like, hey, if I was 681 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: single and like maybe like four years ago, if they 682 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: would have asked me go on Paradise and I was 683 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: considering it, I'd been like, yeah, I'm gonna go. Well, 684 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: kind of like Winter Games. I went there thinking I'm 685 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: gonna do this because I'm gonna see what it is, 686 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: see what it feels like. But I'm like, it's not 687 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: gonna be a thing for me. It's just gonna be 688 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: an experience and then all of a sudden, like somehow 689 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: the show just pulls emotion out of you, like like 690 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. I love Natasha Um. She just has 691 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: a real sense of realness about her. And I just 692 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 1: feel like this whole Brendan and Piper storyline is gonna 693 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: be huge. What is it reminiscent of why can't my 694 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: finger on it? Joe and Julia and Sam? I guess, 695 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: I guess. But hey, that was nothing compared to this 696 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,959 Speaker 1: because they say in the episode that they like hung 697 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: out with each other once, but those two like flew 698 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: to each other multiple times or no, Piper and Brendan 699 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: they saw each other in like the way that you 700 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: had to like physically, Oh didn't didn't Colton And Okay, 701 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: yeah that that too. Who happened? So maybe they didn't 702 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: fly to each other, but like he lives in the 703 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: Boston area, I think she lives in the New York area, 704 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: So like they had to make efforts to see each 705 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 1: other multiple times, and like that was a headline. People 706 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: went into Paradise thinking that they were going to be 707 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: that they were coupled up. There is a reason that 708 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: girls coming in late I don't like that because do 709 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: you remember how hurt Julia was? Yeah, and no matter 710 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: what in Natasha seems like a great girl. So but 711 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,959 Speaker 1: how does she not know? Yeah? How does she not now? 712 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: Or does she know? I mean I knew what I mean, 713 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: she's she's a podcast host. Remember, Yeah, I have no idea. 714 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: I probably thought they broke up. Yeah, and I mean 715 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: might be a moment here where even after like the 716 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 1: Joe thing. Remember that was a big deal. Joe Bailey 717 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about was texting beforehand, like it was just texting, 718 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 1: and we it was like the biggest controversy and paradise ever. 719 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: I feel like we're desensitizing ourselves to now like like 720 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: maybe next year all these people would be dating beforehand 721 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: and look on the paradise and we'll just see all 722 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 1: these tears. Because then like people that they thought where 723 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: they had been dating and they both like text each 724 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: other like hey, we'll both get a paradise and this 725 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: will be a great romantic story. Blah blah blah. Then 726 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: they show up and like their heart's broken because the 727 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: persons with somebody else like that could be what happens. 728 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: But you know, we you know, we feel bad for 729 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: Joe Bailey because he took the wrath of something years go. 730 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 1: But that's been But you guys, you didn't You do 731 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: know that Brendan's saying to Demi that like he's keeping 732 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: his options open, and he said it's so upfront, like 733 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: early on in a in a date, you know, he's thinking, well, 734 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: I know Piper's coming down the stairs next week, so 735 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: I've got to make sure that I don't really commit 736 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: to anyone. And like this is a whole other Brendon 737 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: because we always think like, oh sweet Brendon, Right, No, 738 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: this guy has a plan, he's scheme, and he's gamified. 739 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: He's gaming this thing. So I said, I've seen more 740 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: gaming right now than than past seasons. That's how I feel. Well, 741 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 1: what are the big headlines happened this episode? We have 742 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: the kind of the errand uh love triangle that was 743 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: you know wild. We thought like he was going to 744 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: go with Tammy for sure. Uh that kind of changed 745 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: their mind when he gets a rap song by Serena, 746 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: then he's back with Tammy. Timmy definitely makes a statement 747 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: there like she make sure that like her mark is 748 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: shown because right in front of everybody, she straddles him 749 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: and they're making out. She ends up getting the rose. 750 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: But let's talk about the exits for a second. Anybody's 751 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: shocking to you too, anybody surprising that went home, or 752 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: any couples that you didn't see. I mean, I feel 753 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: like the couples we pretty much could have predicted outside 754 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: of James at the very end. But did anybody go 755 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: home that you're shocked by? I wanted Kelsey to stick 756 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: around longer. I did. I thought that she's she it 757 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: looked like she's had a lot of growth, or she 758 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: shared I think it was in her package, um at 759 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: the beginning of Paradise that she she feels that she's 760 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: had a lot of growth since he was on The Bachelor, 761 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: and um, I just wanted to see her get to 762 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: kind of explore that in that space. Uh, that Paradise 763 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: was one of It was a really unique experience for 764 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: me in in the extent of some of my growth 765 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: at that point in my life. And UM, I was 766 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: hoping that for Kelsey. So I was loved to see 767 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: her go, but you know, her Guy's not there, Guy's 768 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: not there. I was also bummed a sea Kelsey go. 769 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: I thought that, um, she did seem like she grew. 770 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: She I just always found her very likable. I thought 771 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: it made would have made more sense for James to 772 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: have kept her than Demi, but you know, Demi is 773 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 1: like really good TV. Yeah, and the way Yes, And then, um, 774 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: I guess I'm pretty surprised at Victoria Larson didn't really 775 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: make any sort of splash. I am I shocked that, 776 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: like no guy was pining after her after what she 777 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: what she did on Matt season. No, not surprised, but 778 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that she didn't figure out her way of 779 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: staying and she didn't. She didn't even like have a 780 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: lot of screen time. Yeah, we was did Victoria Larson 781 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: end up? It is between her and Tajuan or something 782 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: that they were. There were tears, right, there were tears 783 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: per a minute. I suck kind of stupid. It was 784 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: she kind of tried. She tried and it got really 785 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: mean and it got like oddly aggressive out of nowhere, 786 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,919 Speaker 1: and it felt like it was almost in desperation. The 787 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: thing that, um that surprised me is that one of 788 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: the ways we usually count on Paradise is it's wild, 789 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: it's weird, but it's usually redemptive for the characters that 790 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: we've watched on the big show kind of fall apart, right, 791 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 1: it's usually at some level redemptive. Victoria's story was definitely 792 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: not um you know, like I mean, it didn't hurt 793 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: or help her, but we really didn't leave this going, 794 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: oh we have a new light shined on Victoria, which 795 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 1: usually we do. We can look back on past contestants. 796 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: I mean, Demmy is a good example, right, I mean 797 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: Demmy had definitely redeemed herself on Colton season and left 798 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: that show as a fan favorite, and then she went 799 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: to Paradise and just fell in love with her more. Yeah, 800 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: it's just kind of like Victoria was there and went 801 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: and never really brought much to the season, not even 802 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: a lot of like laughs, Like we didn't even get 803 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: a lot of like, oh my gosh, there she is 804 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: again doing that. It just yeah, she was a minor character. 805 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: Somebody did address her by goddess or something. They called 806 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: her goddess. I don't remember who it was, and that 807 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: was probably I don't know the best. Yeah, I wonder 808 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: if that was upon request. I wonder if she was like, hey, 809 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: please refer to me, which would be which would be 810 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: one way to push every guy away, like please refer 811 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 1: to me, because yeah, it would be a great storyline. 812 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: It just would be one way to never find a relationship. 813 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: If you address me, goddess, I will respond to you. 814 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 1: But yes, it's a little bit more. Um. Yeah, yeah, 815 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,399 Speaker 1: that would be interesting. Well, any other comments on this, uh, 816 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: this week's episode or paradise so far? Uh? Tidley, I 817 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: do have a question for you. Are you excited for 818 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: the next next guest host to step in and replace 819 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: David Spade? Oh? Yeah, so this is so exciting. Um. 820 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: But at the same time, can I just say that, 821 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: and I know that everybody has their own opinion on this. Um, 822 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 1: I missed Chris so much. But at the same time, 823 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: because I've been around for so many years, so of 824 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: course it's just kind of a natural thing to be 825 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: like ou there. But David Spade was it was funny 826 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: to me. He was funny. So but now we have 827 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: Lance Bass coming in, right. I thought. I thought David 828 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: Spade brought the community relief we needed. I don't know 829 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: if it would have worked all season, um, but I 830 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: thought for a week Ashley is very excited for a 831 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: new change, which I think a lot of people are. Guy. 832 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: But Lance Bass is her guy, She's so pumped. It's 833 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: your bestie, right, Yeah, yeah, no, I'm very excited about it. 834 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: I do think that that David Spade would I think 835 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: it would have been interesting if There Wells wasn't there, 836 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: because Wells was truly a co host. Yeah he is. 837 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: He and he did a great job during the Rose ceremony. 838 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: Like I will say that, of everything has felt kind 839 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: of weird not having Chris that right over the past 840 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: season and some now that Rose ceremony didn't really feel 841 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: that weird. It's the entrances. It really is the entrances 842 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: where you feel that missing of that nostalgia part. But 843 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: but and I think David Spade did a great job. 844 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,959 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to watch Land's Best. Will be really 845 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: interesting to see how this continues to turn over throughout 846 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: the whole season. Um, but I'm like need the show 847 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 1: to be on like right now so I can continue 848 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 1: watching everything that's coming going down, Like Paradise is always 849 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: there's just there's storms constantly. One thing I think we 850 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 1: should add before we end this wrap up and the 851 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: recap is the just Senda and Ivan situation. I do 852 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 1: feel like they have a strong connection. They had a 853 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: good conversation over dinner. It seems very drama free. I 854 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: think they're just going to kind of like have a 855 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: smooth sailing moment. Has there been anything in the previews 856 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: that have said otherwise with the two of them? No, No, 857 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: I mean I could see it right Ivan's They just 858 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: feel like the couple that came into this both wanting relationship, 859 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: understanding what you know. Even Ivan's conversations with you know 860 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: Tasia on the season he was on like you just 861 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: know that guy has a good ahead of his shoulders, 862 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,439 Speaker 1: just sin you always had a good run at it. 863 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: It feels like a couple that could really work. I 864 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: said it just mark my words. I have no I 865 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: have not looked a single spoiler, but I just feel 866 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,879 Speaker 1: it with those two. I feel like there's something very 867 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: genuine in the conversation that they had and um and 868 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: just a little bit of there. I don't know, they 869 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 1: just have a good fit and good feel. It's a 870 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Well, Tiley, we really love having 871 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: you on. Before you go, Um, we do have an 872 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: exciting thing to announce. We've been doing this thing, Timley 873 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: on the podcast with a Bachelor bracket this year, so 874 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: it's Bachelor in Paradise bracket. Um, everybody that's listening can 875 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: follow on. They can still jump in and play. It's 876 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: not too late. Only you could if you wanted. We 877 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: have over a thousand people that are playing in it 878 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: right now, which is super fun. You just pick your contestants. 879 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,280 Speaker 1: Each week you get points based on their screen time, 880 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: based on the stuff they says, based on people using 881 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 1: their names. Um, so for those of you playing along 882 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: or are going to jump in and start playing along, 883 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: each week will be announcing a new Bachelor Bracket rule. 884 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: So there'll be a rule that will uh be uh 885 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: with our within our league that will change week to week. Uh. 886 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: This week's rule is this contestant mentions a past Bachelor 887 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: or Bachelor atte lead, you get ten points. So if 888 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: Demi mentions Colton's name, you get ten points for Demi. Uh. 889 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: Same with Joe, same with any of these contestants. If 890 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: they mentioned any past bachelor or Becca steps in, well, 891 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: her name will be mentioned a lot. So I think 892 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: that could be a big point get here, especially for 893 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: the person that she in is up being with. I 894 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's interesting, it's a fun thing, so 895 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 1: make sure you go uh, and visit the website, which Ashley, 896 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: it is what batch bracket dot com and if you 897 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: scroll down a little bit you will see our batch 898 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 1: bracket up there in the bottom in a scroll area. 899 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,720 Speaker 1: Super fun. 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Um, 941 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm originally from a small town in Georgia, and honestly, 942 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: I never really thought that much about my period products. UM. 943 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,280 Speaker 1: But I just spent years researching and trying different products 944 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: from all over the world and trying to find something 945 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 1: new and trying to find something different, and I couldn't 946 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: really find anything. UM. So I decided to be the 947 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: first period care brand UM that would co design period 948 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: products with real customers to solve their problems. So, then, 949 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: how did you come up with the Flex the period cup? 950 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: Because I will be totally honest with you. Oh my gosh, 951 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying this on this podcast. But like, 952 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: I was horrified of standpots until like my tool ENnies, 953 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: I was like that they freaked me out. So, like 954 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: the period cup also seems a little intimidating. How do 955 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: we get over that thought? Yeah, so we have a 956 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: couple of different products. That first product was a risk, 957 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: and I heard that people wanted more sustainable period products. 958 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 1: But they didn't like the idea UM of rinsing and 959 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: reusing something, so they wanted something more sustainable than a 960 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: tamp on our pad, but we weren't able to fully 961 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: commit to let's say, rinsing out a cup in a 962 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: public space UM. So our disks. Disks are our first product, 963 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: and they're designed so that you can wear them for 964 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 1: twelve hours, so the only disposable period product that can 965 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,320 Speaker 1: be worn for twelve hours. They reduce cramps and sixty 966 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: percent of our users you can wear them for mess 967 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,840 Speaker 1: free period sex and those benefits for a lot of 968 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 1: folks are enough to get over the hurdle. But the 969 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: thing that I love is you can use the bathroom 970 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: and empty it on the go like hands free emptying, 971 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 1: so you re emptying hands free emstying, so there's no 972 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 1: rinsing and reusing, and once you're back at home you 973 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: can you can take it out and toss it, but 974 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: you end up using six less waste than um traditional 975 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: period products. And a cup is different because we're the 976 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: only cup in the world that has a patented poll 977 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,720 Speaker 1: tab that helps break the seal um so it helps 978 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,360 Speaker 1: prevent it from getting stuck, which is something that I 979 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 1: think a lot of folks are afraid of when using 980 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: for a cup for the very first time. Definitely, And 981 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 1: what about the mess is there? Is it any different 982 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 1: than taking out a tampon? You feel it is different 983 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: than taking out a tampon and absolutely takes practice and 984 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: there's a learning curve. So the question I always ask 985 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: people if they're thinking about trying a new period product 986 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: is is it worth testing something out to see if 987 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 1: all the other benefits outweigh, you know, getting your hands 988 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: a little messy while you're learning to use something new 989 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 1: for the very first time. Okay, that's understandable. And then, um, 990 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: I hope it's not to tm I for this podcast, 991 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 1: But how do you insert the disks? Yeah, they're pretty straightforward. 992 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: You pinch it in half and it actually gets about 993 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: dinner than a tampon, and you push it all the 994 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: a back and down and it pops open into place. 995 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: So if it's improperly, you shouldn't feel it at all. 996 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: And it's got, um this nice bim that molds the 997 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: form of your body, so it's ultra comfortable and pretty 998 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: easy to remove. So you talked about how you are 999 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: getting us infections. Is tampon use a common a common 1000 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 1: um a common thing to cause us infections? Tampones can 1001 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 1: for some people disrupt the pH of your of your 1002 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: vagina absorbs, you know, they just absorb all of that um, 1003 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 1: healthy bio flora that your body works so hard to 1004 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: produce everyone to keep up immunity and help prevent infections. 1005 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 1: So not for not everyone has issues with tampons, and 1006 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm not trashing tampons by any stretch of imagination, but 1007 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: for some people they can throw off the pH of 1008 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 1: a vagina, which can lead to um yeast infections and 1009 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: bacterial vaginosis. So it was really important to us that 1010 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 1: we used fully medical grade materials that would not promote 1011 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 1: the growth of harmful bacteria. And and the dis are 1012 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: actually the only period product in the world that haven't 1013 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: been linked to TSS. Amazing, Yeah, because you said that 1014 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: you can keep it in for twelve hours and it 1015 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,799 Speaker 1: absorbs as much as three super tampons were, So that 1016 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: is pretty incredible that we don't have to worry about 1017 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 1: toxic shock. Is there anything else about your product that 1018 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: you want to talk about before we let you go 1019 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 1: try and offer mystery period sex? I mean I've never 1020 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: really had an issue with period sex personally. Um, but 1021 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: you can have all different types and sexes and have 1022 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,720 Speaker 1: to be penetrated sex to be able to enjoy the disk, 1023 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: and some people find that to be very free. Well, 1024 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, Lauren. UM. It 1025 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: was very informative and makes me a lot less intimidated 1026 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 1: by the new inventions which are so popular. Our friend 1027 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 1: and colleague here at I Heeart, you know, Tanya Rad, 1028 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 1: she cannot stop talking about how much you love the 1029 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,959 Speaker 1: flex cups. Oh, it's so great to hear. I'm really 1030 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: proud of our growth, and I think it's just because customers, 1031 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 1: like I said, are experiencing those real benefits. It can 1032 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 1: always be really scary to try something new, but you know, 1033 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 1: if it's going to make your beers more comfortable and 1034 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,919 Speaker 1: eliminate cramps and give you more sexy time, it's worth 1035 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 1: a shot. How does it eliminate cramps? People? So it's 1036 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 1: not gonna eliminate pre menstrual cramps, but a lot of 1037 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: folks get more cramps and they're wearing a hard tampon 1038 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 1: inside of their vagina because your body is essentially trying 1039 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: to contract to relieve reliase all of the menses. Um. 1040 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,280 Speaker 1: And so you don't have like a hard felt object 1041 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,320 Speaker 1: in the middle of your vagina. The flex this sits 1042 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 1: in a in a different states around your vaginal fornics 1043 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: with there are fewer nerve endings, and it's stopped and 1044 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: it's flexible. Um. So it moves with your body and 1045 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: creates that leak free seal um. And so that's where 1046 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 1: a lot of folks tell us that their cramps are 1047 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: so much better. Wow, so interesting. I always thought there 1048 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,439 Speaker 1: would be something to that. All right, Well, Lauren, thanks 1049 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it. Yeah, 1050 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Why it's time for one of 1051 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: your favorite segments, one of our favorite segments with our 1052 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 1: resident expert in all things hot topics, Hey Ashley. First 1053 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: headline Katie Thurston and Blake Moine's visit Canada together after 1054 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,919 Speaker 1: bachelor engagement. The photos are attached and go find them 1055 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: on us. Yeah. So they finally did like a hometown visit, 1056 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: a real hometown visit that wasn't like, you know, planned 1057 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: in the desert of New Mexico. Um. So, Blake took 1058 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: Katie to Niagara Falls, which he mentioned on the show 1059 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: was very close to his home. Uh, they went on 1060 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 1: like the boat to see the waterfall. Then they went 1061 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:07,920 Speaker 1: to Toronto and then they they went to Tim Horton's, 1062 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 1: which you know is the dunkin Donuts of Canada. Um. 1063 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: And then they had a nice dinner where they had 1064 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: a congratulations dessert, and then they took some cute selfies 1065 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: and they posted the whole little visit on Instagram. It's cute, 1066 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: it's sweet. Seems like they're doing well. Cute. Well, next 1067 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 1: headline is going more towards Bachelor in Paradise and one 1068 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: of your favorite people in the world, Lanes Bass was 1069 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: surprised by Lance. Bass was surprised by how real everything 1070 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 1: is on Bachelor in Paradise. This according to us. Oh 1071 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: my goodness, Lance, and we have to have a chat. 1072 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: It's so real, it's so crazy. Is he the the 1073 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 1: the host for next week? I can't confirm that. I 1074 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 1: don't know, you can't confirm that. Um, well, it might 1075 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 1: be for tonight's episode. We might get a new host 1076 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 1: for tonight's episode because we were during this Monday guys. Um, 1077 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: you know there's two episodes this week. But okay, anyway, 1078 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 1: back to what lansm. He says, um he thought, He goes, 1079 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 1: I thought, like they've been on the franchise before. It's 1080 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 1: like they come in here like actors, like, Okay, I 1081 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: know what you guys need, let's do this, like you know, 1082 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 1: speaking as if like the cast is talking to the 1083 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: producers like that. And then he said that soon into 1084 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 1: like entering Paradise, he saw how committed everyone was to 1085 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: the show's real premise. He goes, they come in guns blazing. 1086 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it is just so real. I did not 1087 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 1: realize that you could start falling for somebody so quickly 1088 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: when you're in a setting like that. He says. Getting 1089 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: there was pretty incredible. I was a kid in a 1090 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 1: candy store walking around. I was like, oh my gosh, 1091 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: that's wells Adams bar, Oh my gosh, this is where 1092 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 1: that happened. And he goes, and I was just like 1093 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 1: a super deep fan that first few hours. And he goes, 1094 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: I love grocery store, Joe. He was so sweet. He 1095 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 1: reminds me of me so many of my and it 1096 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 1: reminds me of so many of my exes that I 1097 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: got anxiety. He goes, I just feel for people like that. 1098 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Just can't get out of their own heads, but he 1099 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: thinks he's super sweet and really deserves love. Um, The 1100 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Lands is the best. I love The Lands is going 1101 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 1: to bring that like fanboy energy to hosting, just because, 1102 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: like I said, last week, it's almost like David Spade 1103 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: was apathetic about it all, and to be frank, I 1104 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: think he seemed more apathetic this week, and like the 1105 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 1: two seconds we saw of him, yeah, he kind of 1106 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 1: even made that coming. He's like, Hey, it's good to 1107 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: see you guys again. I've seen you since since he 1108 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 1: showed up, and then as he walked out, he's like, hey, 1109 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: what do I get paid? I think that was part 1110 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: of David's stick, Like, I think that was the comedy 1111 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 1: of it all. But it will be refreshing to have 1112 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 1: somebody there that's like super involved and wanting to be 1113 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 1: around and finding joy in the in the in the 1114 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: uh couples. I think David was definitely there for like 1115 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 1: comedic relief um, and it worked right, but you you 1116 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't want it for like the whole season because then 1117 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 1: it just feels like the host doesn't care, and which 1118 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 1: makes fans and viewerships over time probably feel like I 1119 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 1: don't need to care. About this either. It's it's fun 1120 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 1: to hear Lance talk this way. I think it's gonna 1121 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 1: be I think it's me really awesome for the show. 1122 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 1: So pumped to see that. Well, uh, a funny headline 1123 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 1: that we pulled out just to mention because we we 1124 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: said we didn't want talk about anymore last week and 1125 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 1: we really don't. But it was funny. How Trey from 1126 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: bachelorm Paradise confronted the situation last week where um, his 1127 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 1: suitor uh uh ta Juan in uh Paradise had dated 1128 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: his uncle. Well, Trey tweeted a picture of his uncle Anthony. 1129 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 1: The headline reads, Bachelor Paradise is Trey reveals his uncle 1130 01:01:54,520 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: after Tajuan admits they kissed. Soy posted this picture of 1131 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 1: his uncle, who's a very handsome man and you know, young, youngish, 1132 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 1: you know not he's not like your old uncle. He 1133 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 1: looks good. Yeah, yeah, he's very nice. Um and he says, 1134 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 1: too busy with work right now to think of a 1135 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 1: clever way to do this. So I'm just gonna drop 1136 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,000 Speaker 1: this here and dip. He goes to those who care 1137 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 1: meet Uncle Anthony. So funny, it's it's really good. Um, 1138 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,439 Speaker 1: so gonna check it out. I I gotta kick out 1139 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 1: of it. Well, Hey, big news and Bachelor Nation of 1140 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 1: Vanessa Grimaldi uh, former X of Nick File who is 1141 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: celebrated in during this whole franchise is wed now to 1142 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 1: fiance Josh Wolf and the quote is I'm over the moon. Yes. 1143 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 1: So she got married over the weekend. She said exclusively, 1144 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: I think two people right after the wedding. Josh is 1145 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 1: the best partner to have in life. I feel so grateful. 1146 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 1: They got engaged last summer and they were married this 1147 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: weekend at the Lamount Stephen Hotel. Um. So where is 1148 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 1: this in Canada? I would say it was in Montreal, Yeah, Montreal. Um. 1149 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 1: And she wore a custom lace gown by m Maria 1150 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 1: our Ceo design with a J and a V embroidered 1151 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: on the sleeves. That's very cute, and she says, I 1152 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: choose comfort over everything. The dress hugs me in all 1153 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 1: the right places and I feel so confident in it. 1154 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Hey more, Yeah, congratulations to them. That's a 1155 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 1: that's a couple that we've been watching for a while. Yeah, 1156 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 1: super awesome. Well more love news and badge for Nation. 1157 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Uh Cen Fleming somebody that is just absolutely darling. We 1158 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 1: fell in love with her from when she first came 1159 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,880 Speaker 1: on the podcast a couple of years ago, and she 1160 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: ended up dating a realtor Doug Film or World. Hey, 1161 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 1: they're engaged now, and the quote is I always knew 1162 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: he was the one He Yes, I remember her not 1163 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 1: going to Paradise because of him. She was very serious 1164 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,439 Speaker 1: about her new boyfriend at the time. Um, she says, Yes, 1165 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: I knew he was the one ful I first met him, 1166 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 1: I because I never felt the way that I felt 1167 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,200 Speaker 1: for him with anyone else. He's become my best friend 1168 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: and is truly the most kind and loving person I've 1169 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 1: ever known. She tells us Weekly that he puts up 1170 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: with all of her antics and ken and she could 1171 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: be exactly who she she is with him, quirks and all. Uh. 1172 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 1: He planned the most amazing day. It was a complete surprise. 1173 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 1: He got down on one knee in Malibu. It started 1174 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 1: with a helicopter ride over l A landing on a 1175 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,760 Speaker 1: hilltop in Malibu for the actual proposal, followed by a 1176 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 1: surprise dinner with twenty close friends and families on a 1177 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:54,440 Speaker 1: rooftop restaurant in West Hollywood. That is so sweet. Something 1178 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 1: really really incredible. Well, hey, we've been here in rumors. 1179 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 1: Actually it's kind of a headline, kind of just sparking 1180 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 1: your interests and what you think. We've heard rumors recently, 1181 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 1: especially coming from creator Mike Flys about the next Bachelor. 1182 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 1: Um he dropped a hint recently about the new upcoming lead. 1183 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 1: He says, you'll be very happy. Well, of course that 1184 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 1: never happens. Bachelorination is always split. I remember when I 1185 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 1: was announced as the Bachelor. Have the people love to have? 1186 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: The people hated it? Oh? Ben, Ben, Ben, you know 1187 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 1: you flatter me all the time, and this is time 1188 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 1: for me to say, Ben, nobody there's never been a 1189 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: more majority opinion as far as Bachelor's You were the 1190 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan the Bachelor electoral College Okay, but do you 1191 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,919 Speaker 1: know even what Ronald Reagan was it for a second term? 1192 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 1: And what the what the electoral college map look like? 1193 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 1: He'd only lost one state? He lost one state that 1194 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,919 Speaker 1: was you as the Bachelor. He lost that state. Well, 1195 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, Ashley. I feel like there's no winning 1196 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 1: here for the franchise when it comes to the next league, Like, 1197 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: who could it be that everybody would be in favor? 1198 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I could see Andrew being announced and me like, hey, 1199 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 1: this is great, like good looking dude, seemed really like charismatic, 1200 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: worthy of love. I could see one of the past contestants, 1201 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 1: like a grocery store Joe. Um, if it doesn't work 1202 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 1: out in Paradise for him coming on. I mean, that 1203 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 1: would be fanchmastical. But I don't think it's going to 1204 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 1: go in that direction. We'll see how it ends, but 1205 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 1: there would be the two that would fit that, like, hey, 1206 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 1: you'll be very happy idea with me. What do you 1207 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 1: think about this? Um? I mean the rumors this week 1208 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 1: were that the Bachelor front runner was Greg, in which 1209 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 1: case I don't know that I would I've ever been 1210 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:49,919 Speaker 1: more disinterested in seeing is it disinterested or uninterested? Because 1211 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 1: they both have different meanings. One means you're like apathetic 1212 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: towards it, and the other one is that like you 1213 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 1: don't like it so anyway. The one that I feel 1214 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,680 Speaker 1: is like, well, somewhere in between. I really do not 1215 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,959 Speaker 1: care about Blake's journey. I mean Blake's journey, oh my god, 1216 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 1: Greg's journey to find love. That's where I'm like, it 1217 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 1: can't be Greg, because there's no way that they would 1218 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 1: be saying everybody will be very happy unless you're just 1219 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 1: trying to create the narrative, Like unless you're trying to 1220 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 1: like you know, communicate like what they think the public 1221 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 1: is going to feel, and like make the public believe it. 1222 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Greg to me is like, hey, that works 1223 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 1: like it's a choice. Uh. He doesn't have the best 1224 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 1: reputation on the show, but we had, you know, justin 1225 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 1: on who said how great Greg was and how he 1226 01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 1: kind of got the wrong on the deal there. What 1227 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 1: if he does his alter ego the entire time now 1228 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 1: in that case like it. But honestly, it's just to 1229 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 1: me with that everybody will be very happy. It just 1230 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like Greg would be it. Like it feels 1231 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,880 Speaker 1: like somebody that had less of a controversial time on 1232 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 1: the show. So that's why I'm going grocery store Joe 1233 01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 1: or Andrew. I can't really think of anybody else, um 1234 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:06,400 Speaker 1: that would even fall in that category. But I mean, 1235 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Like it's uh, it should 1236 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 1: be announced soon. At first I thought with Tyler Cameron 1237 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 1: breaking up with his girlfriend that I was going to 1238 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:20,519 Speaker 1: be him, But no, it doesn't seem like it. We 1239 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 1: even have a quote from Tyler talking about why he 1240 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 1: decided not to be the Bachelor because you know, it's 1241 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 1: obviously um offered to him at some point. He said, 1242 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 1: I made the joke before going on the show with 1243 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 1: my buddies that I'm going to get that I'm going 1244 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 1: to get second and become the Bachelor. And then I 1245 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:44,759 Speaker 1: got second. I got offered it, but I was like, nah, 1246 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:49,760 Speaker 1: this isn't my world. And he said that my he 1247 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,759 Speaker 1: goes my dad was sick again. I had some stuff 1248 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 1: going on at home, um that and and you know 1249 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,799 Speaker 1: that just didn't work out. And then he said, because 1250 01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:03,240 Speaker 1: I needed money in case something happened to him his dad. 1251 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 1: His heart was not in it. He wanted to see 1252 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 1: what the world had to offer him. Yeah, so it 1253 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like it's Tyler Cameron. Um and uh, And 1254 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 1: it definitely would be a little shocking if it's Greg, 1255 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to be surprised if it's Greg. 1256 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,800 Speaker 1: It sounds like though, um, that will be getting a 1257 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: new Bachelor soon. Also, I mean I'm assuming within that 1258 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 1: time we'll be announcing the new host of the show, 1259 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 1: which you know we've heard rumors of and rumors of rumors, 1260 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,720 Speaker 1: but we don't know who it is yet. No, nobody 1261 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 1: seemed to be solidified. So do you think that they 1262 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 1: were just like they have no idea who the bachelor's 1263 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 1: going to be, and they're just like playing us just 1264 01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,639 Speaker 1: to see what the reaction was if Greg was the bachelor. 1265 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 1: Just they really wanted to see the fan opinion. They've 1266 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,200 Speaker 1: they've they've done that in the past. I will say 1267 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 1: that there's a pretty strong rumor out there um that 1268 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 1: we can pretty much confidently support that Michael a was 1269 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 1: asked and then denied because he wanted to stay home 1270 01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 1: with his kid, and like, yeah, what a cool What 1271 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,320 Speaker 1: a cool thing for him just to say, you know what, 1272 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 1: this is a great opportunity. I understand where it's coming from, 1273 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say no to it because I need 1274 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: to be a dad uh strong rumor. I didn't see 1275 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 1: this out there. I feel like you have inside sources 1276 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 1: that I've told you this. Now listen. What I'm disappointed 1277 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,639 Speaker 1: about about this rumor is that why wouldn't they offer 1278 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,679 Speaker 1: him to shoot in Ohio like they shot Emily season 1279 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 1: in North Carolina. It's a good question, Ashley, one that 1280 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 1: we can't answer right now because I don't know why 1281 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 1: they wouldn't, because it feels like they could and they 1282 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 1: could have his son there and all that stuff, and 1283 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 1: they could have done the schooling. I don't know. Well, hey, 1284 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,560 Speaker 1: that's all the headlines we have for today. In a 1285 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,240 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I'll be taking a week off. I'm 1286 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,600 Speaker 1: gonna be You are going to get the surgery is 1287 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,200 Speaker 1: surgery the week of September six, and then you'll be 1288 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,320 Speaker 1: fine walking down the aisle without a cane. That's what 1289 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 1: they said. They said. They said it's about six weeks 1290 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,280 Speaker 1: of recovery. Uh, and then I'll be back to kind 1291 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,679 Speaker 1: of moving and walking. I just can't jump at my wedding, 1292 01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,479 Speaker 1: which really takes out Jess because and I choreography, so 1293 01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 1: we'll have to change up a bit. Um. But uh, 1294 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 1: I don't even know if that was a joke or not. 1295 01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 1: I think it kind of was and wasn't. She was like, yeah, 1296 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,680 Speaker 1: that we'll just change it up. Um. But yeah, I 1297 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 1: end up tearing the m c l um a c 1298 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,760 Speaker 1: L meniscus. Uh and then partial PCL tear all of 1299 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,080 Speaker 1: it from like a pickup game of basketball of it. 1300 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 1: It's terrible. So Ben, I'm sorry. That sucks. That's a 1301 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,280 Speaker 1: lot of terrors and that's yeah, it's all good. It is. 1302 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, we're gonna make the boast of it. 1303 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: I am now retiring from the sports season of and uh, 1304 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 1: but I will probably take a week off of here 1305 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,799 Speaker 1: just to recover and then we'll be back. But hey, um, actually, 1306 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:51,639 Speaker 1: another great episode, thanks uh for staying in there, great 1307 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 1: conversation with you and Tinley. Thanks to Tinley for coming on. Um. 1308 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 1: And we'll be back very soon actually to break down 1309 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 1: another episode out of Bachelor in Paradise. We'll be back tomorrow. 1310 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,519 Speaker 1: Oh man, We're back tomorrow. It's gonna have two episodes 1311 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,600 Speaker 1: this week. Uh, so we're gonna be back breaking it 1312 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,639 Speaker 1: down with all of you. We look forward to talking 1313 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,200 Speaker 1: to them. Until then. I've been Ben, I've been Ashley. 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