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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing

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Speaker 1: in Heels for your weekly dose of glamour, inspiration and

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Speaker 1: of course fun. This week is another monumental episode of

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Speaker 1: Climbing in Heels as we welcome our second ever male guest,

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Speaker 1: the TikTok Sensation Jake Shane. I met Jake a few

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Speaker 1: months ago and we instantly connected. His massive, massive success

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Speaker 1: with both social media and his amazing podcast Therapus are

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Speaker 1: clearly just the beginning of what will be a very

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Speaker 1: long career in the entertainment industry. Without further ado, the adorable,

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Speaker 1: hilarious Jake Shane. So, I'm very excited to have you,

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Speaker 1: and I'm very excited to sort of hear all about

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Speaker 1: you and how you became you because you're very young,

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Speaker 1: and I weirdly think we have a lot of common interest.

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Speaker 1: I know you love horoscopes and signs and the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: which is just one of my greatest obsessions.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, So you'll be able to tell me about it,

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Speaker 2: because I like, I'm like obsessed, but like I don't know,

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Speaker 2: and like I it's like a bit that I don't

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Speaker 2: know anything. Like on my latest podcast episode, I told

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Speaker 2: someone they were with cancer and they were a Gemini.

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Speaker 2: Like it was just embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: What are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm a scorpio.

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Speaker 1: Scorpio, we shouldn't even be talking.

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Speaker 3: What are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm a Virgo?

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Speaker 3: Wait? I love virgos? Is that not normal?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: It is. I think you guys love us. I think

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Speaker 1: we struggle with you.

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Speaker 3: But it's okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm fare for it. But I'm also here to I'm

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Speaker 1: also here to say that, like I'm really down to

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Speaker 1: like love a Scorpio like I'm because I feel like

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Speaker 1: I can be changed, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: I can't be that judge. But again, I'm a virgo,

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Speaker 1: so we are really freakin' judgy.

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Speaker 2: Well, if it makes it better, my rising's Gemini and

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Speaker 2: my moon is Gemini.

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Speaker 3: So I come off as a Gemini a lot of

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Speaker 3: the time.

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Speaker 1: So maybe that's why I don't know that I click

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Speaker 1: with a scorpio off the bat. You know, a hello,

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Speaker 1: like we did?

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Speaker 3: You know right? We said we clicked.

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Speaker 1: We collected a hello like there was a hug and

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Speaker 1: it was with Cade who we love. Yes, love love love,

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Speaker 1: So I need to understand. Okay, So born and raised.

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Speaker 3: Where I was born in Laka and then I.

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Speaker 2: Moved, so it's not totally new, no, But I moved

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Speaker 2: when I was two years old to Okay Fair, and

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Speaker 2: then I kind of bopped around New York a little,

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Speaker 2: think eleven years old for twelve, I want to say

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Speaker 2: eleven or twelve, and then I moved to Washington Heights

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Speaker 2: in New York City because it was like hard to

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Speaker 2: be getting the suburbs. And then my mom was also like,

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Speaker 2: Washington Heights and I lived in Washington Heights from seventh grade.

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Speaker 2: So when I was twelve to like twenty, I went

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Speaker 1: So you've really had in New York laying.

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Speaker 2: But during COVID, like I was twenty, and I like

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Speaker 2: so I went back to my college apartment in LA

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Speaker 2: and like that's kind of when I really consider like

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Speaker 2: we all moved out here.

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Speaker 1: That's so fun. So you're super close with your parents.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love them. They grab me, but I love.

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Speaker 1: Them Honestly, I don't. I live for my parents. But

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Speaker 1: there's literally no one that can drive me more crazy

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Speaker 1: than my parents. I think that's the job. I think

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Speaker 1: it's like we're no.

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Speaker 2: They know how to get like, they know how to

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Speaker 2: like an, they know how to like poke like it's

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Speaker 1: That's where triggers came from. Your parents.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I will say my mom has is never she's

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Speaker 2: always excited about what I do. But she's just actually

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Speaker 2: excited today because she always watched your show with me

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Speaker 2: as a kid.

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Speaker 3: Do it.

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Speaker 1: That makes me so happy. So did you when you

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Speaker 1: were a kid watching me? Were you like that bitch

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Speaker 2: I actually didn't think you were crazy at all because

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Speaker 1: Based does your mom love fashion?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she loved fashion and she didn't think you were

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Speaker 2: off what she thought, right, Okay, I was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: well my.

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Speaker 1: Mom as good as a good son does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I never thought you were crazy. I

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Speaker 2: thought the show was great reality television.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that.

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Speaker 2: I really like describe myself as like I was like

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Speaker 2: a reality TV kid, like that's what I was watching,

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Speaker 2: and I was watching me one, I was watching MTV,

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Speaker 2: I was watching Bravo, I was watching E Like.

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Speaker 3: I was like very into reality television.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this surprises your doesn't, because I

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Speaker 1: did a show I have never seen another reality like

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Speaker 1: I I could barely watch my show to.

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Speaker 3: Ever wear like housewives anything.

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Speaker 1: Literally never seen Housewives, like like never actually have seen Housewives?

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Speaker 2: Why are you just like I are you just so

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Speaker 2: like I can't like it reminds you too much of

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Speaker 1: But I'll be very honest with you. I've pretty much

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Speaker 1: winged my entire life, if that makes sense, and I

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Speaker 1: Bravo was like, what are your favorite shows? And I

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Speaker 1: So it was right, So I think it was just

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Speaker 1: other shows. I also don't love to be influenced in

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Speaker 1: had my clothes line, I didn't really love to look

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Speaker 1: subconsciously sort of swayed into something, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: So like it's like an anxiety thing. I think it is.

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Speaker 3: It's like it like makes me anxious.

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Speaker 2: It's like I don't want to bioccidentally like copy something

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Speaker 3: I totally get that.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about that, So I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you brought that up. So I have really come

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Speaker 1: I feel that in a weird way, my anxiety has

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Speaker 1: always been my superpower. I kind of really have. I

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Speaker 1: don't really think I've ever considered my anxiety. I sort

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Speaker 1: of make fun of myself about it, and I don't

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Speaker 1: mean to belittle it. I don't mean to use it

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I think I consider myself to be

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Speaker 1: like an anxious person. But I don't necessarily look at

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Speaker 1: it as a negative. I've kind of always looked at

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Speaker 1: it as it's a little bit of my fire, it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of my motivator. It's a little bit

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Speaker 1: think that's how I've always used it. But I know

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Speaker 1: that you're very open about anxiety and mental health in general,

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Speaker 1: so I want to talk to you about that. So

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Speaker 1: have you been this way like your whole life where.

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Speaker 3: You yes, my entire my entire life, well like I'm.

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Speaker 1: And are you open about it me too?

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Speaker 2: So anxiety kind of comes with the territory, is what

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Speaker 2: my parents always told.

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Speaker 1: Me, which is why I never viewed as anxiety.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is just who we are, and

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Speaker 2: I I just remember like always being anxious as a kid.

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Speaker 2: I have really about OCD, so that like my anxiety.

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Speaker 2: I view it kind of like if I didn't have that,

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Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't be good at like hosting or

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Speaker 1: It's part of your personality. It's it's like you're fast,

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Speaker 1: you move, you think a lot, you overthink a lot.

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Speaker 3: There's just no getting rid of it. So like what

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be like you know, I'm on

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Speaker 3: Just it's like have you seen the movie Inside Out? Too?

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Speaker 2: They introduce anxiety, and like the whole concept of the

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Speaker 2: and how every emotion is needed in some capacity, and

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Speaker 2: like anxiety is needed in some capacity, and like anxiety

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean like doesn't have ill intentions, it's just too

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I agree, And I it's funny because I

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Speaker 1: remember when I lived in New York in my in

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Speaker 1: life pre children, and people used to be like, are

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Speaker 1: just it's like this excitement. It's like an excite. But

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Speaker 1: it also to your point, I think it's sort of

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Speaker 1: like you are or you aren't, and you manage it

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Speaker 1: or you don't, And it's how much you embrace it

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Speaker 1: and cope with it and manage it. And I think,

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Speaker 1: as fuel, right, I think if you mentally look at

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Speaker 1: it as fuel in many ways, then you can embrace

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Speaker 1: it as a positive rather than something that you're scary

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Speaker 1: and overwhelming.

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Speaker 3: You know, you just.

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Speaker 2: Need to know that once you know that, like what

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Speaker 2: it's projecting isn't real, which isn't right. Very hard, it's

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Speaker 2: not possible for me yet. Sorry, there's a garbage truck,

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Speaker 2: a child.

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Speaker 1: You are twenty four, You have so much more to

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Speaker 1: cope with that, Like this is going to get easier

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Speaker 1: for you in many ways.

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Speaker 2: I've realized that, like working out helps it, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: doing something creative helps it. Like I'm kind of narcissistic,

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Speaker 2: So talking about myself helps it, Like.

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Speaker 1: Just being honest, like by do I always be honest?

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Speaker 1: I love you more for that. And also that's how

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Speaker 1: you became you to being honest.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I love that, see, And you couldn't You couldn't have

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Speaker 1: It's I think that's fantastic. And by the way, I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you need any help. TikTok is like my

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Speaker 2: It's like a language. Once you learn it, you kind

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Speaker 2: I don't want to just and I remember my best

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Speaker 2: Once you get this, like it used to take us

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Speaker 1: why aren't you on TikTok. I always hear your voice

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Speaker 2: Kind of became this thing, like my friends always called

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Speaker 3: It was like it just was a thing. And that's

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Speaker 1: And then like does your mother love that it's called puss?

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Speaker 2: And so in return, I was like, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: Yes, I haven't been filming lately. I just filmed the

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Speaker 1: That's so much fun. Okay, what scares you? Like, what

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Speaker 2: That's always been like my number one fear, like look

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Speaker 2: Weirdly, it is, it's like I don't want to show

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Speaker 2: Like you know, it's I'm going to embarrass myself before

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to break up with you before you

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Speaker 2: So it's like a lot of my humor is very

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Speaker 2: Like if you think you're gonna do this, like I'm

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Speaker 1: never my intention to be in the public eye. I

442
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Speaker 1: think I never had an expectation for people to show

443
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Speaker 1: up for me. And I remember when I was younger

444
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 1: and I used to have birthday parties every year. I

445
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 1: was always like, nobody's going to come, Like, nobody's going

446
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 1: to come. And if if you ask my team, they

447
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,200
Speaker 1: would say, what's the thing that people don't know about Rachel?

448
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 1: And they'd be like, they would tell you that she

449
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 1: like she thinks no one's coming to anything that she

450
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 1: ever does still today, so I so understand what you mean,

451
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 1: you don't. And I remember when I was doing my

452
00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 1: show sort of like why does anyone want to watch this?

453
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 1: Like why does it? You know what I mean? And

454
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 1: that's a hard thing. And I think I think for you,

455
00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,640
Speaker 1: the greatest thing about TI Talk is just so instant, right,

456
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: Like it's so immediate, Like it's not like filming a

457
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 1: movie that no one's showing up to watch.

458
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Speaker 2: You know, it's less an ana curse because like kind

459
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Speaker 2: of gifted to this like immediate feed of course. So

460
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,640
Speaker 2: like sometimes when things take time to grow as they do,

461
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,919
Speaker 2: like Zach will have to tell me, like you like

462
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Speaker 2: like I remember, like for the podcast. He was like, so,

463
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Speaker 2: like you, nothing has gonnen until maybe a year or

464
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Speaker 2: two of you doing this, So just plan on you

465
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Speaker 2: doing this for a year or two.

466
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Speaker 3: Then it will start to grow. And I was just

467
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Speaker 3: I was like, so that's not going to cut it

468
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Speaker 3: in my book. Like I'm like, that's not going to happen.

469
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Speaker 2: Like I'm going to full throttle this and like we're

470
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Speaker 2: making I'm going.

471
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Speaker 1: To make it happen, right, But and look what happened.

472
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so I'm so excited. I mean, I'm so

473
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 2: excited to tour because that's like.

474
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Speaker 3: The number one reason why I did the podcast.

475
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Speaker 2: It's like to have like a live show that I

476
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Speaker 2: can like, so like that that's going to be fun.

477
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Speaker 1: Well that's interesting because I actually was thinking it was

478
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Speaker 1: like you're such this big personality and you're so obviously entertaining.

479
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Speaker 1: I mean, do you have you ever in your life

480
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Speaker 1: thought like I want to be live, like I want

481
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Speaker 1: to do stand up Like I actually.

482
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Speaker 3: I used to take stand up.

483
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Speaker 2: I took stand up classes for a few months when

484
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 2: I was It's scary.

485
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Speaker 1: That's like my worst fear, Like I can't even carryoke.

486
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Speaker 1: That's like my actual worst nightmare.

487
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Speaker 2: And it is the scariest thing in the world. I

488
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Speaker 2: do it the Gotham you know, the Gotham Comedy Club

489
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Speaker 2: in Chelsea.

490
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Speaker 3: Uh huh. I was seventh grade, so that was fun and.

491
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Speaker 2: I remember being like, oh, I like this, but then

492
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: like high school happened and I'm too embarrassed to do anything.

493
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: Everything's fucking embarrassing school and everything. You like lose yourself

494
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Speaker 2: and just like the worst time, it's the worst. And

495
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Speaker 2: so I'm happy that like I'm I've found this myself

496
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Speaker 2: again and like I'm able to be like, no, this

497
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Speaker 2: is what I want to do, and it really is

498
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Speaker 2: just who you surround yourself with.

499
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Speaker 1: Honestly, it really is. I mean, okay, so I know

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Speaker 1: this seems like a logical question coming from me, but

501
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm curious, Like do you like fashion? Like meaning

502
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Speaker 1: like would you ever want to do anything in the

503
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Speaker 1: world of fashion or is that like terrifying to you?

504
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Speaker 1: In zero interest?

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Speaker 2: Like that is like the epitome of like cool for me,

506
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Speaker 2: So like yeah, like, of course I would love to

507
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Speaker 2: do anything in fashion, Like are you kidding? Like my

508
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: mom like took me to a fashion show once when

509
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Speaker 2: I was like eight years old. I were like one

510
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Speaker 2: do you remember it was?

511
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Speaker 3: When's the Funny's lamb collection?

512
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Speaker 1: Yes? I was probably there.

513
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Speaker 2: I have I show you a photo of me. I

514
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: was very little. I was like I was in a hoodie.

515
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Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. But I love fashion. I used to

516
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Speaker 2: take like my mom loves fashion and I don't. I'm

517
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Speaker 2: not a very fashionable person, but I I love it.

518
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Speaker 2: I think it's so cool. Like I went to like

519
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Speaker 2: one fashion show last year. I went to the Tommy

520
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Speaker 2: Hill figure show and it was.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, yeah, experience in my life.

522
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Speaker 1: He's the best, Who's the sweetest human ever.

523
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Speaker 3: It's yeah awesome, And like.

524
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Speaker 1: My greatest mentor in my life, in my in my career.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

526
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Speaker 1: He gave me my first big break. When I was

527
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Speaker 1: twenty four five.

528
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Speaker 3: Are you s here? What were you doing?

529
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Speaker 1: He gave me the biggest job of my life. I

530
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Speaker 1: had just gone free lance, I'd been working for a magazine.

531
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Speaker 1: I was your age, and he called me into his

532
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Speaker 1: office because I knew his brother Andy, and I had

533
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Speaker 1: been pulling Denham from his brother. He was doing like

534
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Speaker 1: a j Lo Denham collection his brother Andy and Tommy

535
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Speaker 1: called me into his office and I was so nervous.

536
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Speaker 1: I'd had no idea what was happening. And he basically

537
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Speaker 1: gave me a two week massive ad campaign for his

538
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Speaker 1: main collection, for the Younger collection. The first week was

539
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: shot in Austin with like ten major celebrities, and the

540
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Speaker 1: second week was out here in LA at the Griffith

541
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Speaker 1: Observatory with like literally thirty male and female supermodels of

542
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Speaker 1: the time. And I led the entire thing. And I

543
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Speaker 1: looked at him like, why are you giving me this job?

544
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Speaker 1: Like I can't. I'm I don't know that I can

545
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Speaker 1: do this, and he was like, yes, you can. I

546
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Speaker 1: know you can't. And I didn't even know him.

547
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Speaker 3: It was.

548
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Speaker 1: It was the most terrifying experience of my life. But

549
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Speaker 1: I did it and I had like four hundred panic

550
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Speaker 1: attacks on the job, right, like what I did and

551
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Speaker 1: it got very ready.

552
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Speaker 3: Yes, that's amazing. Yeah, but I yeah, So.

553
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Speaker 1: Would you go back to fashion Week? Like I feel

554
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Speaker 1: like you have to hit fashion Week?

555
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Speaker 3: Yes, of course if I'm invited, of course I always.

556
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Speaker 2: But I'm like so not inherently a fashionable person, but

557
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Speaker 2: like that's why, that's why I want.

558
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Speaker 3: I just I feel so hollywood to me, it feels

559
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Speaker 3: so cool.

560
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Speaker 2: It feels so like I don't know, I remember, like

561
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Speaker 2: I used to remember like love like thinking it was

562
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Speaker 2: the coolest thing in the world when I was a kid.

563
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean yeah, of course, Like I would

564
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Speaker 2: die to go back to fashion Week, Like it's something.

565
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Speaker 1: Tells me you are going to have a lot of

566
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Speaker 1: invites to fashion week and you're going to take your

567
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Speaker 1: mom as your day.

568
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, my mom would die. She would die,

569
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Speaker 3: you would die.

570
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Speaker 2: She would just be like on her phone taking photos

571
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Speaker 2: the whole time, like thinking it was the coolest thing

572
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Speaker 2: in the world.

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Speaker 1: That's my forecast for you. I feel like fashion weeks

574
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Speaker 1: and mom as your date. I just I see it.

575
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Speaker 1: You were actually you were born in two thousand, nineteen nine,

576
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Speaker 1: ninety nine nine, Okay, so like two thousand, probably like

577
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Speaker 1: two thousand to two thousand and probably five before I

578
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: moved out to LA it was twenty four to seven.

579
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: Backstreet Brittany in Sync, Jessica Enrique literally like music videos,

580
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Speaker 1: album covers, touring.

581
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Speaker 3: As crazy as the time seemed.

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Speaker 1: It was more than it seemed. It was the craziest.

583
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Speaker 1: I would have like one hundred rocks of clothes, like

584
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Speaker 1: for the guy, I mean Prada adult in this one,

585
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: and I needed like I would have fifty racks because

586
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: each guy needed like five changes and they needed like

587
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Speaker 1: it was the craziest. I'm pretty sure I didn't sleep

588
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Speaker 1: for eleven years.

589
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty that's crazy.

590
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. But it was fun and it was boot Camp

591
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: and it was the best, and it was the music

592
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: industry was, you know, at the height of pop culture.

593
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Speaker 1: Just being that I was shooting covers of Rolling Stone,

594
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was really really really fun.

595
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: It was really crazy and really fun and just you know,

596
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: it's funny. I think about it now and people ask

597
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: me about it, and I remember it like in real time, Like, right,

598
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Speaker 1: that happened.

599
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Speaker 3: Right.

600
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Speaker 1: I was in Monaco with Britney Spears when she ripped

601
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Speaker 1: her skirt because it was too long and just tore

602
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: it and then ripped her t shirt because she wanted

603
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Speaker 1: it cropped.

604
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Speaker 3: You know that kind of thing you would do stuff

605
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 3: like that.

606
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: I would put her in catoure and then she would

607
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Speaker 1: literally like go into the dressing room, come out and

608
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Speaker 1: like it was cropped, and I was like, that's sure.

609
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Speaker 1: I just I think, yeah, I did. I died, like

610
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Speaker 1: I literally died. I've died one hundred and twenty deaths

611
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: in yeahh right for sure. Okay, So tell me hopes

612
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: and dreams beyond today, Like what in your mind is

613
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Speaker 1: like the next or do you just try to live present?

614
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Speaker 1: But knowing you for the last hour, I'm thinking you

615
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: don't live in the present and you're constant thinking about

616
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Speaker 1: the next thing. I mean, I never lived in the present,

617
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: so I'm working on that still.

618
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: Ever, it's just who I am. I try, but it's

619
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: like I really want to get into acting. That's like

620
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: a dream of mine. And I want to kind of

621
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: turn therapist into like late night for gen Z.

622
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: I feel like there's no late night for gen Z.

623
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Speaker 3: I feel like it's kind of like, you know, I don't.

624
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 1: Know people like my parents that watch it.

625
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like I I think late night is

626
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: such a cool concept. It's so American, and it's so

627
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: it's been around forever, Like I would hate to see

628
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: it go away, so like I would love I would

629
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: love to like kind of like turn Therapist into a

630
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: late night for like the new James Corden kind of

631
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: like but yeah, yeah, not the.

632
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Speaker 1: Days old, but you know what I mean. Yes, But

633
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Speaker 1: I have a question, So does then not live on

634
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: television or does in your mind? Would that live on

635
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: television or in some kind.

636
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: Of other I think I would it would live on

637
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: streamers in a live sense, so it would be live

638
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: like Underson Time a week and then you could watch

639
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: it after as well.

640
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: Genius, I love it, I'd watch it.

641
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: That's my idea.

642
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's manifest that.

643
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: I know. I'm trying. I'm really trying to manifest.

644
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: Like my ideal dream would be like Netflix Live three

645
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: times a week, late night musical guest talent fits, Jake

646
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: Shane Late Night Live.

647
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: I see this for you. I see this for you,

648
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: not only do I see it for you, but I

649
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: actually see you like as the next like Dave Letterman,

650
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: You're going to be doing it until you're eighty.

651
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 3: Oh like I wouldn't.

652
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 2: That's the thing is, like I never want to swop

653
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: entertaining like I always just like I'll always want to.

654
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like work. Ever.

655
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Speaker 4: We like to do this with all of our death.

656
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 4: Rachel's going to give you a little rapid round of

657
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: question and then I'm gonna let you go. And it

658
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: doesn't great, It doesn't. You don't have to answer in

659
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 4: like one word or anything. You can elaborate if you

660
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 4: need to, you can do it. It's just to know

661
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 4: you a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I obviously already know the first answer Instagram or TikTok.

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Speaker 3: You know it depends on the day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. Day one star signed. You would never

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Speaker 1: date a Leo fair a scorpio and a Leo would

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Speaker 1: like implode. Yeah, okay. The food item you can't live without, which.

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Speaker 3: I think I know it's octopus, but it's also white rice.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, Okay, that's fair. I don't think my son

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Speaker 1: could live without veryways, Netflix and chill or Dance on Tables,

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Speaker 1: Dance on Tables any of that. I test in my mind.

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Speaker 1: I answer the question and ask myself, if you were arrested,

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Speaker 1: what would it be.

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Speaker 2: For God, Like, if it was two years ago, would

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Speaker 2: probably be like doing something drunk and stupid in college,

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Speaker 2: but probably like like drunken disorderly, Like I don't like,

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Speaker 2: That's what I would imagine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, favorite beauty product I.

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Speaker 3: Use like Linne's lip mask I really like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I like like my road Face wash yeah good, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 3: And I like my drunk Elephant Bronzer.

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Speaker 1: So good, so good. I love that one. Okay, who

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Speaker 1: is your.

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Speaker 3: Hero Taylor Swift?

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Speaker 1: I have even watching here everyone's fucking hero. Okay, favorite TikToker,

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Speaker 1: Favorite TikToker.

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Speaker 2: It's a good question, trying to think of who I

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Speaker 2: who I religiously watch.

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Speaker 3: My favorite TikToker is probably my best friends. I like

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Speaker 3: watching what they have to pose, like Brau all that.

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Speaker 1: Because you're invested in it too. Okay, New York or

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Speaker 1: La La favorite TV show.

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Speaker 3: Of all time?

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Speaker 1: Uh huh?

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Speaker 3: Girls on HBO.

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Speaker 1: Okay nineteen eighty nine. Or Torture Poets.

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Speaker 3: Department nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're the cutest. I endure you, Jake.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy we met.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy. This was so fun, so much fun.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to be your best friend, and I

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Speaker 1: can't wait take hang out. And I'm terrified to lodge TikTok.

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Speaker 1: So you're going to have to help make it.

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Speaker 3: Don't be, don't be, I will help you.

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Speaker 1: That is a whole new world, and you know us

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Speaker 1: people with anxiety. That is hard, very that is hard.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm sending you the most love to have a

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Speaker 1: beautiful week. I hope I see you soon.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I will see you soon. Thank you for having

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Speaker 3: me so hi.

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Speaker 1: To your mom, I will, I will, I will. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much to Jake for being on the pod.

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Speaker 1: You are such a star at such a young age,

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Speaker 1: and I honestly love the most your humor and transparency.

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Speaker 1: I just laughed this entire episode. We had so much fun,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he taught me a lot. I feel

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Speaker 1: like I am ready to embrace the very scary world

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Speaker 1: of TikTok and I'm hoping that Jake will be my

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Speaker 1: new friend and hold my hand through it, because it

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Speaker 1: will be a whole new world for me. So thank

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Speaker 1: you so much to everyone for listening to Climbing and Heels.

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