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Speaker 1: What's up? His way up with Angela Yee. Finally, Trevor Jackson.

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Speaker 2: With us Reunited and it feels.

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Speaker 1: So good reunited. Listen, Trevor Jackson. I was thinking about,

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Speaker 1: like what, You're not even a triple, you know, people

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Speaker 1: always say triple with that, You're like a quintuple because

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Speaker 1: if you think about everything you've done Broadway, you know, acting, writing,

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Speaker 1: also singing, directing, I mean, you do it all.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy that I have multiple outlets to express myself.

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Speaker 3: You know, it really helps. It helps out the hard

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Speaker 3: areas of my life. So when I'm able to either

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Speaker 3: write a song or shoot a scene that I'm able

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Speaker 3: to release some of that tension.

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Speaker 2: It's that everybody gets from just being alive. It's a gift.

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Speaker 1: We all have.

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right put me on this rock in the

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Speaker 3: middle of space and telling me that I'm just supposed

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Speaker 3: to be cool with it.

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Speaker 1: And you're always very pleasant to everybody too, which I like, Like,

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Speaker 1: I've seen your inter actions with people, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's that's such an amazing thing because you've been in

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Speaker 1: this business for twenty years and you're still in your twenties.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of times people can get very jaded,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel like you're jaded.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, I love people.

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Speaker 3: I think the only time you get like that is

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Speaker 3: when you and I was having this conversation the other day,

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Speaker 3: but I was like, when the cameras are on you

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Speaker 3: and the lights are on you, and everybody's looking at you,

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Speaker 3: start to think it's about you. But when you know

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Speaker 3: that it's a conglomerate, it's a community of things, and

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Speaker 3: you I was put.

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Speaker 2: Here to do duty, then you then you treat everybody

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Speaker 2: with that. You know what I'm saying. But it's like

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Speaker 2: I feel like when people start thinking.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm that, I'm you know, idolizing yourself, you kind

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Speaker 3: of fucking fucking don't care.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, It comes out. But I

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Speaker 2: definitely always want to respect humans.

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Speaker 3: I know that I've been through a lot, so for

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Speaker 3: me to still be alive, I know that anybody my

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Speaker 3: age or older or whatever, eighteen nineteen, you got.

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Speaker 2: To go through some stuff to keep going. So I

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Speaker 2: respect that and people.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing to be like twenty years in this

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Speaker 1: business but you're still in your twenties.

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Speaker 2: Birth nine days I think today.

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Speaker 1: He said, I think what is today twenty second? No?

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Speaker 2: No eight?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow that August thirtieth. That's Meato's birthday too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you guys.

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Speaker 2: Have virgos, Yeah, virgos.

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Speaker 1: You think you have virgo? What's virgo qualities?

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Speaker 3: My virgo quality is I'm uh, I think, I guess

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Speaker 3: I'm particularly when it comes to my creative But my

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Speaker 3: life is not virgo.

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Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean, I'm messy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we know we're gonna talk about it. Don'try.

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Speaker 2: I meant messy as in my room is messy. What

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Speaker 2: the hell? What the heck? But no, just like my

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Speaker 2: crib and like I don't like tidy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, like on the moon, But that probably if you're

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Speaker 2: For sure. I'm getting there, though, I'm perfecting trial and error.

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Speaker 1: Now. First of all, your hoe, the way you even

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Speaker 1: started off and shout out to Nia she is she

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Speaker 1: just app starring in The Lion King on Broadway. She

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Speaker 1: was playing Nala. That's my friend's daughter. Yeah, and so

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Speaker 1: you started off really on Broadway and the Lion King,

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Speaker 1: and that is such a huge role to have to play.

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Speaker 1: I actually had the opportunity to go do like while

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Speaker 1: walk through back. Yeah, the whole tour. It was amazing.

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Speaker 1: But just to think about a young Trevor Jackson playing

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Speaker 2: Man, I loved it. It's the whole first hour of

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Speaker 3: And then we had school too, so it was like

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Speaker 2: I was eight years old to eleven years old.

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Speaker 3: I was on tour performing that and sometimes if the

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: So it was definitely experienced, but it trained me for

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Speaker 3: all this stuff I gotta do now, like here, we

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Speaker 2: So I'm used to putting in the work, which is good.

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Speaker 1: And then as a kid, though at that age, I

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Speaker 1: just say I don't feel like doing this never, okay,

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Speaker 2: I used to cry if I couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Like one time I fractured my foot while I was

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Speaker 2: I was a dramatic as kid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so your parents are always very supportive of this

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Speaker 2: I say, my mom was and my dad kind of

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Speaker 2: jumped on later. My dad wanted me to hoop.

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Speaker 3: Your dad wanted me to be, you know, a hooper.

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't up until like two years ago, three

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Speaker 2: He's like, okay, okay, we go on.

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Speaker 1: Not up until two or three years ago he should

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Speaker 1: have been let that.

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Speaker 3: Govern But uh yeah, no, it's it's it's hard though

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Speaker 3: And so when someone says to you, hey, to move

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Speaker 3: at first it was a little difficult, but I just

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Speaker 3: can't live with all doing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just to see the growth that you've had.

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Speaker 1: When I first met you, it was when you were

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Speaker 2: When we met, I was fifteen.

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Speaker 1: You were fifteen years old and he had just signed

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Speaker 1: to Atlantic. That's crazy. And so they were like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but he's pretty good at like being entertaining and engaging

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Speaker 1: at that time, and I know you've said this is

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Speaker 1: the music that you were creating.

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Speaker 2: Oh I wasn't creating it.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem, right, wasn't you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. It was stuff that was written. And I mean,

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Speaker 3: We live in this time where people it's even like movies,

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Speaker 3: everything's a remake. So when you go into these labels,

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Speaker 3: how can we remake Chris, How can we remake tra songs?

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Speaker 2: How can we remake blah blah blah, And let's do

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Speaker 2: the same thing they did. And that's just kind of

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Speaker 2: like what I was feeling. And I woke up when

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Speaker 2: Dan was like, yo, I don't want to die.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I wasted this time in my life

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Speaker 2: So I had to leave called credit like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: And listen. But it seems like it's working out. You

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Speaker 1: seem like you're much happier. Yeah, yeah, on your own.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I had to. I'm still becoming a man,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I don't think everybody is.

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Speaker 3: I think you're always growing, always evolven is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, grow.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like I'm I had to, you know,

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Speaker 3: put put some stake in and put everything I got.

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Speaker 2: Everything I'm making from TV.

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Speaker 3: And movies is going back into the music, is going

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Speaker 3: so starting to get into that space.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I want to I want to be the

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Speaker 2: Apple Loaf. You know what I'm saying. I love Steve Jobs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's always kind of a hard transition when

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Speaker 1: you started doing this at a young age. People know

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Speaker 1: you from like Disney, they know you know, for different things,

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Speaker 1: and then they have to see you grow up and

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Speaker 1: also grow up with your music. They're like, why is

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Speaker 1: because even when I see you, you're always like fifteen

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Speaker 1: year old I know, Trevor to me, but you're not

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Speaker 1: fifteen anymore. Yeah, a little older. And we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: the music because that definitely reflects because you were a

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Speaker 2: But what actually was no?

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Speaker 1: What you were not?

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Speaker 3: I'm sure most men they probably won't tell you, but

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Speaker 3: most dudes were in that spot.

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Speaker 1: You know. Remember Pleasure P had the song Boyfriend Number

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Speaker 1: two that was like the epitome.

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Speaker 2: I freaking love that song.

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Speaker 1: We know it's very good. I'm confused, do you like

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: I think it's Catch twenty two right, because you get

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Speaker 3: the responsibility part of it. And then but that's how

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Speaker 3: I feel like humans are. It's like, what you can't have,

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Speaker 2: Right. So it's like, hey, we're kind of talking, I

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Speaker 2: get to go over here. But now I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: hate the change in her voice when she's talking to him.

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Speaker 3: It's a little softer, it's a little more caring, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, why isn't she am I not worthy

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Speaker 2: You know? It could be that.

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Speaker 1: So it's how do you hear her talking to him

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Speaker 2: She's been I've had a girl like with me and

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Speaker 2: then call her dude while.

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Speaker 1: She's Wow, you really lose I carefully, Shit, I don't.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: I do want to say, like, it's complicated the project

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Speaker 1: that you put out, that's like a movie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's real, it's real, and that the song Guy

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Speaker 3: on the Side was kind of the catalyst for the

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Speaker 3: album because I wrote that and it was real. I

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Speaker 3: was just like, Yo, you're trying to like sell me

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Speaker 3: on this dream, Like, hey, I don't really care I am,

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Speaker 3: but I'm like, I just yeah, you kind of just

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Speaker 3: pushing and pulling and pushing and pulling. So I was like,

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Speaker 3: don't send me to love. You know, I cannot buy

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Speaker 3: when I'm just the guy.

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Speaker 2: On the side. We can, we can pretend all day,

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Speaker 2: but you end up going back to him, right.

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Speaker 3: So that was kind of the catalyst of the project.

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, the records just started coming.

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Speaker 1: But you can't really trust somebody that if you were

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Speaker 1: No, it's interesting because this whole project is complicated, right.

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Speaker 3: Said, I'm messing you where you hear this at I know, but.

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Speaker 3: I had to do really come up like, hey, bro,

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Speaker 1: It's so funny. Well, you do a great job.

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Speaker 1: And okay, I know somebody if you need to need

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think well, because I do music and I'm

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Speaker 2: We just didn't want to buy that. I was like, please, like,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the movie Burning Sands, because yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was gonna quit acting right before that I did

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Speaker 2: And then I did Burning Sands and I just I

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Speaker 3: Dove into that. That's probably the deepest I've dove into

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Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, pledging is a wild thing. I just remember

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Speaker 2: Covering up like abused, abused spouse. I like, I just

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Speaker 2: hit the pool. It just fell down the stairs. No,

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Speaker 1: Man. My ex boyfriend he pledged, and I remember they

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, not to not pledge.

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Speaker 2: But let's not die trying to pledge.

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Speaker 1: If you think if you went to college, you would have.

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Speaker 3: Pledged after the movie, probably before I was like fraternities,

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Speaker 2: When is it worth that?

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Speaker 1: When is it definitely not that? That's wild? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, love martial arts.

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Speaker 3: Bruce Lee's right here bing bang bunk and I've done

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Speaker 3: we're not allowed to train martial arts, so they disguised

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Speaker 2: So when the slave masters asked what they were.

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Speaker 1: And but it means a lot more when you can

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Speaker 1: Well, what does martial arts do for you in your

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Speaker 1: I'm also knowing if you got to fight somebody, right.

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Speaker 2: I think for me it's service.

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Speaker 3: I think when I'm doing martial arts, like with my teacher,

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Speaker 3: my master, shout out master, shout out master, with Nico.

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00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,679
Speaker 3: But I feel like it's one of the few times

441
00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,240
Speaker 3: that I'm not worried about me. And you know, through

442
00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,639
Speaker 3: my life, I'm like, I gotta perform, I gotta go

443
00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,119
Speaker 3: to the interview. But this I'm like, hey, how can

444
00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,639
Speaker 3: I help the school? How can I help my teacher?

445
00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,360
Speaker 3: And that gives me a service. I feel like I'm

446
00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,320
Speaker 3: doing more of the serving part, which is a refreshing feeling,

447
00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,520
Speaker 3: and it feels really good to be a part something

448
00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,560
Speaker 3: bigger than me. And like you said, it's connected to

449
00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:33,959
Speaker 3: so much history and you can feel it when you're

450
00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,840
Speaker 3: in those rooms and they're playing and the music is going.

451
00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,239
Speaker 3: It's it's it's intense. You should come next, timmer in La.

452
00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,120
Speaker 3: I'll take it a little something.

453
00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,760
Speaker 1: Really, is it like a beginner connect? Okay, good, it'll

454
00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:45,159
Speaker 1: be sick though.

455
00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,000
Speaker 2: I think you enjoy it.

456
00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to a little cultural experience. And

457
00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,879
Speaker 1: that also could help you with your roles too, right,

458
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,760
Speaker 1: Like I know you you had to do that, yes,

459
00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:53,560
Speaker 1: super Fly you had.

460
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,040
Speaker 2: I was already doing that.

461
00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,879
Speaker 1: So I feel like something like this is going to

462
00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,240
Speaker 1: happen because I could see Trevor Jackson doing something that

463
00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,760
Speaker 1: is going to be more focused on that. Would you

464
00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,240
Speaker 1: would that be something that you would love?

465
00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Marvel.

466
00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,320
Speaker 3: I want to be a Marvel something, DC something, any

467
00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,200
Speaker 3: type of superhero where I'm fighting and it's my dream.

468
00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that in the atmosphere.

469
00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. I saw Deadpool Wolverine four times

470
00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,640
Speaker 2: the week it came out. Absolutely loved it.

471
00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,840
Speaker 3: And that guy's journey, Ryan Reynolds, of being somebody who

472
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,639
Speaker 3: fought for it made it. Now, you just made a

473
00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,840
Speaker 3: billion dollars in the first week and I had and

474
00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:27,440
Speaker 3: you fought for that.

475
00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,000
Speaker 2: They told me couldn't do it. They were like you can,

476
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,720
Speaker 2: and He's like, I'm gonna do it. And he made it,

477
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,080
Speaker 2: put his own money into it, produce it.

478
00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,119
Speaker 3: And I didn't realize how involved he was in the

479
00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,600
Speaker 3: writing process or involved he is in the you know

480
00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,960
Speaker 3: he's and that's why it's so good.

481
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:38,480
Speaker 2: Did you see it?

482
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? I saw that. I want to say, see what

483
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,520
Speaker 1: I mean though you just researched everything we just talked about.

484
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,800
Speaker 1: You have all this background information on it and you

485
00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,800
Speaker 1: may not realize it. You actually like everything that you're

486
00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,000
Speaker 1: talking about that you want to do, you have, it's

487
00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,000
Speaker 1: not superficial.

488
00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's real. It's real, for sure.

489
00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,520
Speaker 1: It's all I'm saying. Now. The music. Let's get to that,

490
00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,879
Speaker 1: all right, because that's a big deal right now for

491
00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:03,280
Speaker 1: you having become independent and also writing your own music

492
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 1: and working with your brother, yeah a lot as well.

493
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,720
Speaker 2: Amazing, it's amazing.

494
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,520
Speaker 1: So and also being able to talk about real life things.

495
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,640
Speaker 1: Is it hard to talk about real life things too,

496
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 1: because sometimes some of that could be a little bit

497
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:16,680
Speaker 1: like should I be?

498
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it's kind of the only place I

499
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,879
Speaker 2: feel comfortable enough to talk about it. You know.

500
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 3: I feel like when I meet people, I'm a little like, yeah,

501
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 3: I'm open and easy going, but when it comes to

502
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 3: like my life, I'm kind of like I have a

503
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,679
Speaker 3: hard time expressing, I think sometimes. But when I'm in

504
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,560
Speaker 3: there and it just flows out, you know, that's that

505
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,159
Speaker 3: to me is the best time. And I think the

506
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 3: fans and even not fans with people who are seeing

507
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,719
Speaker 3: me do it it just matches up more me and

508
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 3: the music because it's coming from me, and yeah, like

509
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 3: I said, all these are experiences that happened, like from

510
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:47,360
Speaker 3: a distance.

511
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 2: I was talking to this young lass and.

512
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 3: She she like just cut me off out of nowhere,

513
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 3: and I was like, what's going on? And I remember

514
00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 3: I hit her up and I'm like, yo, where are

515
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 3: you att I was linking and she was like, I'm

516
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 3: good love enjoy and didn't talk to me for like.

517
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 1: Five six months. Something happened. Something happened, because no one

518
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 1: just does that. Cheva, what did you do?

519
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,959
Speaker 3: I didn't do anything, but I'm pretty sure she probably

520
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,439
Speaker 3: thought or somebody might have said something to her to

521
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 3: where she just thought I.

522
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,400
Speaker 2: Did something, you know what I mean? But I didn't.

523
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't my girlfriend or none.

524
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 1: But we were talking, okay, so maybe she found out

525
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 1: somebody else she was talking to and then yeah, but.

526
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,679
Speaker 2: I'm good love and joy is crazy to be the

527
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 2: last thing to say to somebody.

528
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:32,920
Speaker 1: By the way, that's hilarious.

529
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 2: I'm good love enjoy. So the song I'm good Enjoy,

530
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 2: I wish you will.

531
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 1: I love that though. And Eric Bellinger is on this

532
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: project as well, And now you guys have a great

533
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 1: relationship from the beginning.

534
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 2: I want to talk about him.

535
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 3: He is one of the few black men in this

536
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 3: industry that has, like I feel like, done what I

537
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 3: hope to do when I reach, you know, wherever I'm

538
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 3: trying to reach. But it just he saw me, you

539
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And I've been doing this for

540
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 3: so long, and I respect him so much because he's

541
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 3: a genius songwriter, genius artist. And he was like, yo,

542
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 3: your shit's dope, and he kept hitting me up like

543
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 3: I was putting up. He's like yo, yo, like you're

544
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 3: really killing and this just meant a lot.

545
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: And then he took me.

546
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 3: On toward them and he called me and I was like,

547
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 3: of course, I'll go on tour. And when I went

548
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: on tour just to support I've been on tour with

549
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: other artists and they hate me because I'm killing.

550
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm doing crazy at the show, you know what I'm saying.

551
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 3: But I've had artists that I've opened up for and

552
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 3: be like, hey, he does too much, like don't let

553
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: him flip or that's crit don't let him sing this

554
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 3: song because they what you know what I'm.

555
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: Saying, that's so hated, like step up your show.

556
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, And that's why a lot of people don't

557
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 3: don't want that. But Eric Bellinger was so supportive and

558
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:42,479
Speaker 3: his show was so amazing.

559
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: We just meshed perfectly.

560
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: And he helped me with the album too, So two

561
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 3: records we wrote together. But I had a whole list

562
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 3: and he was like, come over, let's go through him.

563
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 3: We're only putting smashes on here. And so I went

564
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 3: over there and he was like, yes, take that up,

565
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 3: put that in there, boom, and he kind of helped.

566
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 2: Me curate it and added a few here and there.

567
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 2: But it's a support level and he's an amazing father

568
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 2: and husband, and he's.

569
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: Just as great as far as like him, like staying

570
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: at the mix but being in the mix and nothing

571
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: like everybody loves and respects him. And I only hear

572
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: positive things about you know what I'm saying in the business,

573
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 1: and every time he's been but he's even done lip

574
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: service and it hasn't been too you know, he hasn't

575
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: been too well. Yeah, happily married.

576
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: He's a he's a really really good dude, super super talented,

577
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 3: and I our relationship means a lot.

578
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 2: To me for sure.

579
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, what is it that Trevor Jackson wants? Like,

580
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 1: what is it that you want that would make you

581
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: feel like, because I can't tell relationship wise, and I'm

582
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: only asking this because this is what the album is.

583
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: Clearly it's complicated about that. But I'm not sure what

584
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: you want, Like, do you want to be happily in

585
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: a relationships?

586
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: I want kids?

587
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 3: You do okays? And I want to eventually direct star

588
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 3: composed my.

589
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 1: Own film okay like Charlie Trevor, And I feel like

590
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 1: you could also. I feel like you can get an egot. Yeah,

591
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: for sure, you know, because you have the ability to

592
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: do that. Would you go back to Broadway?

593
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 2: It's hard, and it's so hard.

594
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 3: I just did eleven day run on for Tap Dance

595
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 3: Kid at the New York City Cinemato and that was

596
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: the beginning of last year.

597
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: I think it was one of the hardest things I've

598
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: ever had to do.

599
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: Right, It's a challenge, but nothing from a challenge in

600
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: yourself sometimes.

601
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, But my thing is there's no life because I

602
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 3: want to be so good, Like I can't talk after

603
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: the show, I can't go hang out. I gotta go home, sleep,

604
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 3: go to the show, don't talk. Well, you know, it's

605
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 3: just the living aspect too. I also want to be happy.

606
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: I thought you've been working for so long. Yeah too, Like,

607
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: when have you ever taken time off? Because consistently you've

608
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 1: been booked and busy.

609
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've taken I think the longest I've done was

610
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: like a month. Went to Hawaii for like a month.

611
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I was a Maui and just but that's

612
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: like in all that time, you've only had a month.

613
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I really don't take vacations. I need

614
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: to do better with that.

615
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: But for sure, and maybe when you find well, when

616
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: you have a wife, yeah, and kids might not be

617
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: too far away. Uh oh, is something going on? Something

618
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: going on away? But I do want to say, okay,

619
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: missus Jackson.

620
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: But I do want to say that there is the

621
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: music that I'm making. Obviously when I make it, it's

622
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: coming out.

623
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: Later, right, right, So this's been happened.

624
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: So this is I was these are a while ago.

625
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 3: And then I have two other albums that I'm working on,

626
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 3: and one is we're not working on that are done.

627
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 3: One is a breakup album which is supposed to be

628
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 3: the prequel to what this album is.

629
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, that's why we're and then this complished.

630
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 3: That's why we're still because we used to be together

631
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: and we broke up, but we still kind of have that.

632
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: Oh my god, imagine going from the main to the

633
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: side that happens all the time. Look at it.

634
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 3: You just thought, sorry for you, man, And then the

635
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 3: album after that.

636
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: Is like, Okay, I'm done with her, I'm back outside,

637
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 2: I'm having motion and this is what you did to me.

638
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: You turn me into this thing.

639
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: You know what. People would never think that you would

640
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: have issues when it comes to dating.

641
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: I think humans were humans.

642
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: But people wouldn't think that. They'll be like, oh, tap,

643
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: it could be with anybody, Like no, any you would

644
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: think any woman would be like I'm gonna break up

645
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: with him for you.

646
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had that And I was like, don't do

647
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 3: that because I'm not gonna take care ofus. She's like,

648
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: you're gonna take camera.

649
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: No, She's like, gonna be my boyfriend.

650
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a real story.

651
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: You're in the studio having a good time, things are

652
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 3: going good, you know what I mean, and uh, you know,

653
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: about to leave.

654
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: She's like where are you going? She's like, well, can

655
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 2: you expect me to just go back home? My boyfriend? Like,

656
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 2: what do you want me to do? That he's probably

657
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: gona bring up and you're gonna beat. You can be

658
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: my wofriend. No, ma'am, no man, but God bless you.

659
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 2: I had a great time and hopefully we see each other.

660
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm good love and joy.

661
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: I'm good, love and enjoy.

662
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 1: You hit it with that.

663
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: I'm good, love, enjoy.

664
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: Do you talk to like your mom and your dad

665
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: about your relationship? Do you?

666
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: I do. My dad's better to talk to than my mom.

667
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 2: She's uh, she's yeah, she's old school and she's yeah,

668
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: not the best person to doing with that. She's great

669
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 2: in other areas. But my dad, my dad will give

670
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: it to me. I remember one time I called my

671
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: dad crying Russell and he.

672
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: Was like, son, every woman has a maintenance man. I said,

673
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 3: what what do you mean? Listen to what I said?

674
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: So every woman has a maintenance man some of the

675
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 3: best advice ever give.

676
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: So maybe you are the maintenance man.

677
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I've been This album is up

678
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: from the maintenance Man.

679
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: But I think as a younger man, it was like

680
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: a movie The maintenance Man. That could be starting Trevor Jackson.

681
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: That could be cool, kind of like a hit ride

682
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 2: but like maybe like jigglo too.

683
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that for you, Okay, But I.

684
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: Think the hardest thing for men when you're growing up

685
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: is to realize that women are human because we look

686
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 3: at you guys so higher than us. I think when

687
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: you're growing up, you know your princesses, your things, and

688
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: our job is to serve and help. And then then

689
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: when you guys do human stuff like hey, I feel

690
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 3: like we're like devastated because we don't think that's you know,

691
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: And I had to grow into that and realize, hey,

692
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: we are all you know what I'm saying.

693
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: So it took me a minute to get there.

694
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel maybe you're going to be in an

695
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: open relationship.

696
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: No, I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.

697
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 2: I thought about the stated I've thought about it. I

698
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: just can't.

699
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't.

700
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: What I just can't. I can't. Like if we were

701
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: in something and I want to do something, like, I

702
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: just don't want to be separated.

703
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: It just feels like it's losing that the reason why

704
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: you whistle in the first place, and it's not about

705
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: the sex.

706
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: It's just about you guys being together.

707
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, now, let's talk about this tail.

708
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: All right, this chip.

709
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: You're talking about it since I've had it.

710
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it.

711
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: We know.

712
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: I didn't say that you don't like it, And.

713
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: I said I would cut it off at nipple length.

714
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: And it's almost there.

715
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: It's almost. It's fast, it's fast.

716
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: It's bad. I try to act like down here, I

717
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: got low hanging nipples. I got so no.

718
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: But honestly, let's talk about this tail. So now, what's

719
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: what's the plan with this tail?

720
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: The plan is until I get a roll so big

721
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: that I have to cut it off. Marvel, Marvel, please, Hey,

722
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: Miles Morales, I could shave. I'll have Puerto Rican anyway,

723
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: is Dominican? Is he Dominican or Puerto Rican? Moles brows Jamaican?

724
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: Somebody google it either get Dominican. He's Hispanic.

725
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: He is Suspanic, Hispanic and bloody. Anyway. I would love

726
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: to play that.

727
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: So now, two more projects on the way, one of

728
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: those coming out. I feel like you just are like

729
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: so pouring into your music so much. I can't even

730
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: imagine you taking a break to do a movie.

731
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

732
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 3: But the good news is because all the music is recorded,

733
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: you know, That's that's why I always like to have

734
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: stuff in the back too. Because of our film, we

735
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: got singles, we got records, you know, we got artillery.

736
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: So that's always good.

737
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: Like the Tupaca YEA R and B.

738
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: I was just we were talking about Tupac last night

739
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: and talking about how he had a hard time getting

740
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 3: out of his rolls.

741
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: Right. I could see that when he did Bishop, Yeah exactly.

742
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: They said that even when they YO cut, he'd still

743
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: be like.

744
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: Right, well, yeah, you you play some rod. But that

745
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: one go ahead. It's a Valentino born in Roma by Valentino.

746
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 2: You know.

747
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: Now, you talked about wanting to have Grammys. What are

748
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: some things that are on your bucket list that you

749
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: haven't achieved. I know you want to write, direct, produce movies,

750
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: but what else do you want to do?

751
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: So, yeah, the Grammys, the Oscars and Superhero And I

752
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: want to do a documentary called Chasing the Barrel, where

753
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: I travel the world trying to find the best barrels surfing.

754
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, sorry, it's called the barrel when the

755
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: water goes over you and you're inside of it. So

756
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: I want to take like me and people from all

757
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: different walks of life and.

758
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: How surfing has helped them. Okay, surfing has saved my life,

759
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

760
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: It really just helps me get back to ground zero, unplugged,

761
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: and just get connected with the flow of what's going on.

762
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: And when you're in this industry, you're always and I

763
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: go out there and I see family, a dolphin family,

764
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: a pelican, and I'm like, everybody's.

765
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: Just doing their things.

766
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: So this was your Hawaii one month trip that you

767
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: do Okay, Okay, I was gonna say, you must have

768
00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: been doing that every day.

769
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: You knowing. Hawaii actually didn't serve that. When I was there.

770
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: There just wasn't waste for some reason.

771
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: But I was going to like different cliffs, cliff jumping

772
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: and different sites where they used to meditate and stuff.

773
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: There was this river that I went to that was

774
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: really really cool.

775
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: They said like the ancient Hawaiians would go there and

776
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: they would like, you know, pray and stuff.

777
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: And I remember I sat in that river for like

778
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: four hours and I was like crying.

779
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: Wow, I wasn't doing nothing, didn't I didn't know much room,

780
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 3: and I was just They're chilling and I was feeling

781
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: like those feelings when you do when you do the dreams.

782
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: I was like, what is happening? Pretty powerful stuff.

783
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: That's amazing. It feels like you need some of those

784
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: times because this business can really way a way on you.

785
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: And you've been through a lot, even just leaving the

786
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: label and having to go independent, and that's tough. People

787
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: don't understand. I mean, it's tough to be on a

788
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: label and not get what you feel like you deserve

789
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: and what you need and also not be able to

790
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: have your own voice. But then it's also tough to

791
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: have to do it on your own. You know, you

792
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: have to pick which is you're going to be your

793
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: poison exactly exactly.

794
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: But I think when you do it on your own,

795
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: you don't live in the past or like in grit

796
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: and when someone.

797
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: Else do it, you're like a man, you know. So

798
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: I'd rather lose on my own accord, for sure, But

799
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lose.

800
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah you're not. I mean, you're good. You already one.

801
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: Now you also study your own podcast? Yes, yes, I

802
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: did that.

803
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: God, Yeah, I do have a podcast. Yeah, check it out.

804
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: It's called The Scenic Route Me and my brother. I

805
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: think the best part about it is that I get

806
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: to talk with my brother. We're both so busy and

807
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: he does a lot of the creative and business side

808
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: with my music, so every time we talk.

809
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: It's work, you know.

810
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: And I missed the brother time when we used to

811
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 3: be in the bedroom playing wrestling or watching different movies

812
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: and us having that since we were little. So we

813
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: kind of get to rekindle that as we're talking, and

814
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: we don't we try not to do too much points.

815
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: We just kind of like shoot the ship and talk

816
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 3: about different stuff, and it's a it's amazing.

817
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: It's amazing to be able to do.

818
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

819
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: I always set up my brother was a big basketball player,

820
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: made broke a bunch of records at the school, and

821
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: my dream was always played basketball with him, and I

822
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: never got to. So now I get to do life

823
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: in business with him. So it's kind of like we're

824
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: on the same team still.

825
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: So nobody you could trust, like your own family, well.

826
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: Some family can't, true, but I'm thankful for my family

827
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: I could trust. But I know some people are like, no,

828
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: you're right, what your sister did? What do you She's like, yeah,

829
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: we hate each other.

830
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, what listen? People calling for tell us a secret?

831
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: All the time, and they'd be like I slept with

832
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: my sister's man, and you know, and you'd be like,

833
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: damn family.

834
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: Like I've seen sisters like that, Like I've been over

835
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: maybe to see somebody and their sister walk by and

836
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: like booty shorts on purpose, like.

837
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: And of course you didn't.

838
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: Ever, of course I didn't. I don't do that. I'm

839
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: a good dude.

840
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: Mm feels like acting all right.

841
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: Feels like Shakespeare in the Park.

842
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: I know you've done some foul things though, of course

843
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: I'm a human, right, He's like, I leave it at

844
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: that next ablish. Let me drink my soda.

845
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: That's right, Sprit's good you guys like right.

846
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: Well, Trevor, it's always such a pleasure. I could sit

847
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: down and shoot this ship with you.

848
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: Awesome. You really are awesome, and you've always been sweet

849
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: to me and kind to me, and uh, you're your admirable.

850
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: I admire you and how much work you put in

851
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: and it shows and that's why people come and want to,

852
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: you know, be a part of what you're doing.

853
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. That is something I've been wanting to get

854
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: you up here for so long. And I feel like

855
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: this podcast. I love the fact that people get to

856
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: see like your personality. Also understand your backstory where you

857
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: came from. Because you work so hard, you know when

858
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: people need to understand that and realize that. And I

859
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: have to also.

860
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: So she's iced out, y'all. I don't know if you guys.

861
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: Can you guys see her? She's iced out.

862
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: My nails aren't done though, Get my nails done, that's

863
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: what I want to do today. You're iced out too well.

864
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get like you wait, hold on, let

865
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: me see what is that.

866
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: It's a hammerhed shark, but I lost the paint brush.

867
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: It's a hamdrhed sharuck biting a paint brush. Okay, I

868
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: mean because it's my company's born art and sharks, because

869
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 3: sharks will die if they stop swimming my whole life.

870
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: They told me to slow down.

871
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: See look at him doing his research again. I told

872
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: you he researched. He doesn't even really.

873
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: I didn't realize I really did it. And now that

874
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: you said it, I'm like, wait, wait.

875
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: Like everything you have is like an explanation. How many

876
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: all of them?

877
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: It's all this my chest and in my back and

878
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: I got ninja turtles right here.

879
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: That's how you love teenage turtles.

880
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 2: It's the martial art aspect and it's the brother aspect.

881
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: I feel like I grew up with a lot of men,

882
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: and I like to see men loving on each other

883
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 3: and not being weird like and we need more of that.

884
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: And I feel like that was like a.

885
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: Good we need more turtles. Turtles, Come on, man, thank you.

886
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: You got to come back like every time. Honestly, you'd

887
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: be a great co host to I would love to. Yeah,

888
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, now that would be amazing.

889
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: Lions are tigers? Are bears? It's your favorite animal? That

890
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: would be my first question.

891
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: No, I say tigers.

892
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: Tigers?

893
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: Why why so you like the bears?

894
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: Lie?

895
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: Okay, well you were in the Lion King. You were

896
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: a lion.

897
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: I was for three years.

898
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: It's not fair. I say tigers because I like tiger prints.

899
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: And it's more, you know, that's we're fitming in, you know,

900
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 2: tigers or more?

901
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: Are they?

902
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

903
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: They will kill you.

904
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: But more than a lion though. They got a little

905
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: more sex appeal to them than the line.

906
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: I think no one likes beers.

907
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: A lot of people like bears. My brother likes bears.

908
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: They're they're like dogs, they're big as dolls.

909
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: No they're not. Don't play with no bear.

910
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: Don't play with a bear like if you're Russian though,

911
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: if you are Russian, dull.

912
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: If you are Russian, bears don't kill you for some reason?

913
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: Are we see old Russian dudes playing with bears in

914
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: the fucking forest? And then biggers don't get eaten?

915
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: Did you see cocaine bear?

916
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, amazing.

917
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: Now that's a hYP of bear. I know I haven't

918
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: got a beer and you can sell them some cocaine.

919
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: Calm down here, I got what you need.

920
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: I got what you need. Well again, thank you so much.

921
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: And guys, make sure you stream. It's complicated if you

922
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: haven't already. And then we have the Creekweel coming soon?

923
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: Is that what's next?

924
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: Yes? Prequels the breakup album, very very sad. And when

925
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 2: we get off your all play.

926
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait to hear it. Do you cry

927
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: during the breakup?

928
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: What?

929
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: Men don't like to admit that?

930
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 2: Oh? Men need to all me and they should cry more.

931
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: My dad blately has been crying a lot, and I said,

932
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: Dad's because fifty years.

933
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: You've not cried. Bro, you've been Try.

934
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: And buy your lip, but no, dude, I went through

935
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: my breakup two weeks after I tore my achilles. So

936
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: I have a cast on and I'm in the studio

937
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 3: ken I had to keep lifting my leg up because

938
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: all the blood was rushing down. You know what I'm saying, Wow,

939
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: recording this record crying blah blah blah. But it came

940
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 3: out fastest fastest album I've ever made.

941
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: I made it in a week.

942
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: How long were you guys together before the breakup?

943
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if I like what you said. I'm

944
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: just kidding on and off about six seven years.

945
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: Okay, she publicly with somebody else? Now?

946
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 2: Huh? Is she publicly with somebody else?

947
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: No?

948
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: But I did see her two months after at an

949
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 3: event with some other guy, and I literally it's funny

950
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: because right before I saw her, I like stood up

951
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: and I was like, she's not gonna be in here.

952
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: Look to the left, she's here with some dude. I

953
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: hug her.

954
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: I don't even say something to do because it's so fresh.

955
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: I go to the bar tender. I said, I just

956
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: saw my ex girlfriend here with another guy. Need you

957
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: to hook me up? He said, I got just what

958
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: you need.

959
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: Three shots at tequila. I turned that place.

960
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: Out they left, you said, I turned that place out.

961
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 2: They left. They left because they knew I was about

962
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: to get ready.

963
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: She was like, I know, my and I know.

964
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: She said we need to go.

965
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: I know we're about to be here. Well, and then

966
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: you were probably like, why didn't I bring someone?

967
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: And I was trying to be respectful just in case,

968
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 3: but also, if I'm being honest, I am an entertainer,

969
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 3: like I do this.

970
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: She doesn't really do that as much. And it was

971
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: like at one of.

972
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 3: Those events, like an acting event, right, so I'm like,

973
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: why are you.

974
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: Let's not get into it.

975
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: Let's move on, all right.

976
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm in a new situation on a new stage.

977
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, good, you know what.

978
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm good.

979
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: God closed one door and he opens up a much bigger,

980
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: better batter door.

981
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: Oh beautiful, beautiful door.

982
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: Okay, we love beautiful doors.

983
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: Yes we do, walk through, walk back.

984
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, get ready for this prequel. I cannot wait.

985
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: All right, Travick Jackson, thank you so much. She's not

986
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: fifteen anymore. Guys.

987
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 2: Well,